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Title: PROOF
Post by: bk on August 28, 2006, 12:17:55 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the proof was in the notes, and now it is time for you to post until the cows come home - they're eating all the pudding looking for the proof.
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Post by: bk on August 28, 2006, 12:19:36 AM
And the word of the day is: FUNGIBLE!
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Post by: George on August 28, 2006, 12:24:38 AM
I'm off to bed.  I have to get to work early in the morning...earlier than usual.  We're doing a classification study.  One of my co-workers Madeline and I basically have the same job, but with some minor variations (I deal with returns of defective or damaged material and she deals with claims when we don't get something at all).  We both are going to complete a survey/job description and compare, but I need to finish my part of it by this afternoon, when we decided to meet, so I need to get to work early so that I can work on the stupid thing.

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Post by: George on August 28, 2006, 12:27:02 AM
I don't know if I'm going to have time to think about the Topic of the Day.  It all happened such a long time ago. :)
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Post by: George on August 28, 2006, 12:28:10 AM
Well, I'm off.  Good night, BK (and two guests ;)).
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:43:43 AM
I see George is represented after the day changed...but where, oh, where did FJL go?


The Emmys  -- totally ignored them and don't care.

Read the list of winners...and am oh! so! glad! I didn't bother to watch.  BLECH!

I guess the only way Kiefer Sutherland and "24" could ever win (after all these years) was if its betters weren't nominated.

And that's why the Emmy's suck this year, more than in previous years.  I'd rather bitch about the same old people winning rather than see them not being nominated at all.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:45:21 AM
Supposing...
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:45:32 AM
They....
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:45:59 AM
Held...








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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:46:12 AM
An...
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:46:32 AM
Oscar....
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:46:49 AM
Show...
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:47:08 AM
And...
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:47:29 AM
Nobody....
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:47:55 AM
Tuned....
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:48:17 AM
In...?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:52:12 AM
It's getting to where one awards show is as fungible as the next.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:53:54 AM
While Emmys were on, I watched Masterpiece Theater...part 1 of "The Moving Finger", a Miss Marple adventure.  Quite an interesting production with a new face to me...James D'Arcy who reminds me of both Nicholas Clay and Christopher Jones.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:55:02 AM
Speaking of moving fingers, mine are tiring.  My afternoon nap was a bit ambitious.  I'm barely sleepy but my body tells me it wants a lie-down.   What a rum go!
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Post by: Tomovoz on August 28, 2006, 01:23:59 AM
My early radio listening introduced me to pop music I guess. My family were not "musical" but the wireless was a part of our day. The songs I remember from childhood were the novelty songs like "Doggie In The Window". "It's In The Book", "Sweet Violets". "Bimbo" etc.
"The Last Picture Show"  soundtrack very much represented my early listening.

My favourite 78rpm records (other people's) were by Freddy Gardner and Guy Mitchell.

I really did not know anything about Classical Music until I was at High School.  Thank you to "The Maldau", "Peter & the Wolf" etc.

Theatre music - "Kismet" was the first musical of which I was really aware. It was the first Stage show I was taken to.  

The First Albums purchased were "Oklahoma" (Nelson Eddy), "Carousel" (Soundtrack), "The Buddy Holly Story", "Conniff Meets Butterfield", "Gunfighter Ballads and Trail Songs" and "Johnny's (Mathis)  Greatest Hits"
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Post by: Jrand73 on August 28, 2006, 05:01:58 AM
Fungible....wasn't she one of the original Mouseketeers?
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Post by: Jrand73 on August 28, 2006, 05:04:01 AM
I didn't watch the Emmy Awards either....

It is raining here, and I this is a BIG O morning for me.  No, nothing that exciting....must get the brakes on the PT looked at, they are making a disagreeable noise.  Hopefully I won't be there ALL day!

Hmmmm.....Johnny Mathis On Broadway.....listening to that album made me want to get the music from GYPSY and LIL ABNER......

And of course Van Cliburn's recording of the First Piano Concerto made me want even MORE of Tchaik's stuff!
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Post by: Jrand73 on August 28, 2006, 05:09:05 AM
Big O today....nothing THAT exciting....brake work on the PT....hope I don't have to stay ALL DAY!!!
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Post by: Michael on August 28, 2006, 05:23:02 AM
Count me in as one who did not watch the Emmy Show. I did watch Deceit with a couple of friends and was fun to watch them watching the play.
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 28, 2006, 05:47:20 AM
And the word of the day is: FUNGIBLE!
Pat knew her husband Richard would badly BUNGLE IF he thought that a con job and true diplomacy were FUNGIBLE when he met with the Chairman.
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 28, 2006, 05:48:13 AM
Fungible....wasn't she one of the original Mouseketeers?
No, she was just a substitute.
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 28, 2006, 05:50:17 AM
[move=down,scroll,6,transparent,100%]The rain is lightly coming down here in Reboboth![/move]
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 28, 2006, 06:00:18 AM
One thing my mother did that was absolutely right was play music on the hi-fi as I was growing up.  That, and she liked to sing, even though her voice wasn't all that good.  Sure, her taste ran to the novelty songs of her younger days - I can still hear her warbling about "...And they swam and they swam all over the dam."  But music was supposed to be fun, interesting.  (Rock was never interesting, which is why she never paid any attention to it.)

This is one of the big challenges der Grampa and I have, figuring out how to introduce the grandlads to music.  Magic Mommy doesn't want to have it around.  "I CAN'T THINK WITH THAT STUFF PLAYING!" she wails.  (I've yet to find any evidence that she thinks when it isn't playing, but that's a different matter.)  She doesn't even want to hear the lads singing along with their Discmen while they have their headphones on.

That's why der Grampa always has my Discman available in his car, with a variety of discs for them to choose from.  We have the Discman plugged into our car radio, so we can all listen.  And singing along is encouraged.
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 28, 2006, 06:01:02 AM
Good Morning, Charles!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on August 28, 2006, 06:05:49 AM
(I've yet to find any evidence that she thinks when it isn't playing, but that's a different matter.)  

LOL -- it sure does seem that way!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on August 28, 2006, 06:06:45 AM
I am trying to get DR Sandra up to go to the arboretum. No luck so far.
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Post by: elmore3003 on August 28, 2006, 06:31:12 AM
Good morning, all!  Yep, I slept in again, and I've been fighting with an eBay vendor and Paypal for the last hour.

DR SWW, I can't imagine any parent stupid enough to prevent their children from being exposed to anything worthwhile (well, there was the dumb whore - literally! - in the building next to me with the three bastards, but I ramble) and I deplore the lack of a musical education in the generation after mine.  I'm still amazed when I come upon a young person with a degree in music who doesn't know elementary music theory.  I also digress.  The grandlads' parents seem to me to exhibit a continuous and conspicuous effort to keep tight braces on their children's brains and environment.  I encourage anything you can do to prevent this.

Of course, if I ran the world, everyone would be forced to pass stringent tests about parenthood and the ones that failed would be sterilized.  I guess it's good I'm not running it.

As to our TOD:
  I learned to read by age 4 from record labels: my first memory is Khatchaturian's "Sabre Dance" which was a Boston Pops hit.  Since my mother's six siblings all played instruments, there was always music around my grandmother's house, where my parents and I lived for the first three years of my life.  I had tons of Little Golden Records, primarily classics for children and Disney songs.  My mother was always singing World War II songs:  one, "My Blond Sailor," was a total mystery to me until around 1981, when I came upon an Andrews Sisters recording of it.
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Post by: Cillaliz on August 28, 2006, 06:48:45 AM
Good morning all!  I grew up in a very musical family.  I can't remember a time in my life when there wasn't music. When I was 5 I begged my mother to let me start piano lessons, and she did.  So I've been listening all my life and playing since I was 5.  

DR Elmore, I had lots of Golden Records too, a number of them had been passed down the family.  

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Post by: Cillaliz on August 28, 2006, 06:49:00 AM
Better get to work...
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 28, 2006, 06:51:06 AM
There was one record that I remember, put out by Disney, which gave very brief bios for eight composers, starting with Bach and running through Tchaicovski.  How they managed to get as much on that record as they did, including snippets of their music, is beyond me.

Carnival of the Animals was a favorite of mine.

And there were the OCRs.

Amazing how those recordings would find their way into my room.  It was as if they knew, "We can make this feller queer if we present ourselves to him!"

(Only, I know too many gay men who haven't even a trace of the show tune gene in their make-up.  Go figure.)
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Post by: Ginny on August 28, 2006, 07:19:06 AM
Monday morning greetings!  It's a stormy day here in SW Ohio - hope it's bringing some cooler, less humid, weather.

TOD - My sister had the soundtrack to the Oklahoma! movie - on 45rpm's.  It's one of my earliest memories of something I wanted to listen to over and over again.

When I was about 8 years old and my parents were furnishing their first purchased house, my mom was going up an escalator in a J.L. Hudson's (the big Detroit department store) and glimpsed a piece of furniture that she had to have.  Well, it turned out to be a stereo, so the record collection began developing in our household.  We quickly acquired a lot of Broadway show recordings and my earliest memory of classical music was the 1812 Overture.  My dad also bought a 12-record set from Reader's Digest called Festival of Light Classical Music, which I still have.  Not only did that set introduce me to things like Night on a Bald Mountain and Poet & Peasant Overture, but its cover is a Renoir painting.  I still have the set and will play something from it for our dinner music tonight.
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Post by: Ginny on August 28, 2006, 07:28:31 AM
I've been trying to post a photo of the Festival of Light Classical Music, but first I was told my file was too large.  Then, when I'd found a smaller one, I was told the upload folder is full.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 07:35:54 AM
Good morning!

Coolish this morning but hot is on the way! Over 90 today and tomorrow, and then we're supposed to start cooling off substantially. It can't come fast enough for me.
Title: Re:PROOF
Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 07:38:02 AM
TOD:

I have no memory of it, but my mother told me that I started singing before I started talking and that I would sing commercial jingles I'd hear on radio and TV. As I said, I don't remember this at all, but commercial jingles are what introduced me to music.

Maybe that's why I love TV so much?  :D
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 07:38:50 AM
I'm sure DR TPunk meant Bob Newhart rather than Bob Hope when she mentioned the gag that recurred during the Emmy Awards last night.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 07:44:07 AM
I had few problems with any of the shows or actors who won Emmys. I don't watch HUFF or THE WEST WING, so Blythe Danner's win (her second in a row for her work on the show) and Alan Alda's trophy may well have been deserved.

But '24' had its best season ever, and as a LOST fanatic and GREY'S ANATOMY and HOUSE devotee, I still would be hard pressed to say it didn't deserve the award. It was sensational this past season (but those other shows were, too). My contention is that there is an embarrassment of riches in the drama categories, so many shows will have to wait turns to be rewarded.

I was really only disappointed in Tony Shalhoub's win as Best Actor for MONK. He'd already won the award two of the past three years, and I think others in the category had done better work this past season. Didn't care much for his award speech either muttering that he never wins anything when, of course, he's won the Golden Globe and the SAG Award in addition to the Emmy for this show.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 07:47:45 AM
I'll first be checking out the GREY'S ANATOMY repeat this afternoon when I return from lunch with best friend John. (Also have to run to the post office to mail a few items to DRs.)

This week, ABC is repeating the Thanksgiving episode of GREY'S that I've already seen, so I'm hoping last night's GREY's isn't one I've already watched. There are plenty of episodes in the show's 1 1/2 years on the air that I haven't seen.
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Post by: FJL on August 28, 2006, 08:02:52 AM
TOD:  I would say William Latham's "Brighton Beach" was one which really hooked me and whoich I played over and over.  And it seems that it didn't appear until 1967, but the "Casino Royale" theme music really moved me in a way that I hadn't expected.  It's rare that I truly love a piece of music that has no words, but those two were sources of much pleasure and maybe even inspiration for a long time.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 08:32:29 AM
Off to get cleaned up now for lunch and then errands.

WBBL.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 09:03:53 AM

Jack:  This new avatar.....have you not been yourself lately??









:D
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 09:07:00 AM
My first memory of listening to a recording:

A 78 rpm of Les Paul and Mary Ford -- "The World is Waiting for the Sunrise"

I recall dancing "The Bunny Hop" around the living room with my parents and their friends.

The first musical I remember, outside of "Peter Pan" and "The Wizard of Oz" in their TV airings, was seeing "Oklahoma!" (I'd say circa 1956-57).  
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Post by: PennyO on August 28, 2006, 09:55:19 AM
TOD - I don't remember any "firsts" - my mother's family had lots of musicians, especially her mother. Grandma played piano... a perfect ear meant that any time any of us started singing something, she began playing it in that key on the piano. Her first job came when she was eleven years old, as the pianist in a silent movie house. Her sister was a child headliner in NY in the Gus Edwards Revues when they came from Russia, and became an opera singer for a short time. My mom played records of all types - big band, opera, symphony, Tony Bennett, constantly; she had her radio going first thing in the morning. All day Saturday we heard the Texaco broadcasts from the Met...

I think I remember being a young teenager and falling in love with the theme from A Summer Place one summer. By the next summer it was Debussy, and from about age 12 through high school - anything Joan Sutherland recorded.

At age 12 or so, mom took us down town to see the 21-year-old rising star Mary Costa in La Traviata. One look at that first act dress, and I was hooked on Verdi... it was a lock that I would be an opera singer...
Title: Re:PROOF
Post by: bk on August 28, 2006, 09:57:16 AM
I'm up, I'm up.  Had a nice night's sleep, and must now - PROOF.  I'm enjoying reading the first music posts.
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Post by: Ginny on August 28, 2006, 10:06:15 AM
DR PennyO - How did the first night of your workshop go?  It was last night, right?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 10:06:20 AM
Amazon.com sent me a notice that "The Fountainhead" will be released on DVD on Nov. 7.  It gave me a link to pre-order.

When I clicked on the link, Amazon.com told me that item was not currently in its catalog of titles for pre-ordering.

Sigh.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 10:08:28 AM
There are no decent seats left for the last three performances of "A Chorus Line".

Except, of course, on E-Bay.   But what bothers me is whether or not THOSE are legit!
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Post by: PennyO on August 28, 2006, 10:35:02 AM
DR PennyO - How did the first night of your workshop go?  It was last night, right?

Thanks for asking! It was just great! Eight people had signed up on the library's list, and I had a nice bunch of walk-in's who had found out about it in the Redmond Reporter (local newspaper), which had kindly highlighted my workshops in their calendar. A library staff person came, too - he's a novelist/screenwriter who had put all his manuscripts away years ago, and brought them out again this week in anticipation of being with other writers in a workshop.

The most intriguing aspect of the evening was the fear factor - sheer terror - plaguing most of the participants. At one point toward the end of the two hours, I was addressing this block that several of them had mentioned and asked for help with... I was saying that I wasn't braver than anyone else, I didn't possess more courage than any of them... when I realized that just wasn't true. Something dawned.

Courage and optimism is a gift. Not everyone is born with it. I have been doing workshops like this one for over twenty years - and my blithe suggestions to students to "just take the next step... just get on with it" have been my too-facile response to a crippling handicap. I didn't know. It just never occurred to me that a lot of people are actually crippled by a fear of taking action.

I had the flash of insight about domesticated elephants: handlers chain baby elephants to a post for a couple of years. The babies struggle to get loose and find themselves helpless. After a year or two, the chain is replaced by a rope. Adult elephants never consider that they can take three steps and break the rope... it just never occurs to them...they have been conditioned to believe they are helplessly chained. Reality is something we are conditioned to, and facts don't change it...

So my task now is to figure out how to change the elephant's perception.

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Post by: PennyO on August 28, 2006, 10:39:51 AM
How do you train people to create a more-congenial reality???
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Post by: George on August 28, 2006, 10:53:30 AM
That's very insightful, Penny!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 10:59:07 AM
I have been informed "the upload folder is full" and to contact the Administrator.

HEY!  We can't post pictures!

HELP!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 10:59:47 AM
How do you train people to create a more-congenial reality???

You make them face their fears and coax them into self-acceptance?
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 28, 2006, 11:04:18 AM
Jack:  This new avatar.....have you not been yourself lately??


:D
We have a true giant amongst us.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:04:26 AM
Good day fellow Hainsies and Kimlets....
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:10:56 AM
TOTD....

Hmmm, It would have to be a song on children's album I had called "You Can't Go Rollerskating in a Buffalo Herd" and "Deep in the Heart of Texas."

I also had a recording of Annie which I fell in love with.

I was introduced to good quality Irish music by a penfreind from Ireland. She introduced me to the music of the Chieftains and DeDanaan among various solo artists. I was instantly hooked. I am not a fan of some of the American-Irish vaudeville tunes.

I love to explore different genres so it has been at different times in my life I have heard and then done a bit of exploring to seek out more in a particular genre. The only genres I do not like are heavy metal and rap.

Elmore and Cilla, I also had a copy of a Golden records.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:12:05 AM
I literally cringe when people Irish Washerwoman...
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 11:13:25 AM
I literally cringe when people Irish Washerwoman...

??

How does anyone "Irish" a washerwoman?


Is this code for something naughty?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 11:14:58 AM
I've sent Amazon.com an e-mail:

"I received an e-mail from you announcing the upcoming release on DVD of 'The Fountainhead.'  There was a link to pre-order the title for $13.99.

Trouble is, it took me to a screen that says the title is not available in your catalog at this time.

What's the story, Morning Glory?  Why send an invitation to pre-order if it isn't set up in your system?

Is there a glitch somewhere?  Did someone jump the gun?

What's the word, Hummingbird?"

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Post by: elmore3003 on August 28, 2006, 11:16:31 AM
I literally cringe when people Irish Washerwoman...

When Irish Washerwomen do what?
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Post by: Jeanne on August 28, 2006, 11:19:09 AM
PennyO, an exercise I've used in the past is to think about all the things one HAS accomplished and think about how they were accomplished. Most of us, I find, have done far more than we give ourselves credit for. We pooh-pooh our successes. "Oh, but that was easy." Really? Any easier than what we're attempting now? I suspect there's a lot of mild (and not so mild) post-traumatic stress syndrome around. And, yes, courage and optimism are real gifts.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:25:27 AM
??

How does anyone "Irish" a washerwoman?


Is this code for something naughty?

I really do need to learn to proof my posts more often...  :)
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:25:57 AM
It irks me when the tune, Irish Washerwoman, is played.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:28:37 AM
One of my bad habits... is not proofing what I am posting....
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Post by: FJL on August 28, 2006, 11:36:38 AM
The proof is in the posting - That's what my mailman used to say.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:39:27 AM
Anyone know of Television schedules from 1984. Namely the week ending January 28?

A friend of mine is organizing her late brother's tape collection and part of his collection includes Search for Tomorrow. He has Matt Ashford's first day and we are trying to figure out what day it was on by trying to place the program they are promoting in a voice over on the end credits.

Through synopsis from Soap opera digest and from a few newspapers we have placed the week.  

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Post by: bk on August 28, 2006, 11:43:56 AM
Have jogged, and just for a change of pace, I shall now - PROOF.  One more story to go, then back to the top to re-proof the first five.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:44:07 AM
My friend Sandy and I have it narrowed down to either Wednesday or Thursday. From my observation, they would never intro a soap character with speaking lines on a Monday or Friday. So those days are ruled out. Also at this time, one of the main characters, had a different actress take over the role. Another thing they would not do on a Monday or Friday is reveal a new actor/actress taking over an established role.

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Post by: bk on August 28, 2006, 11:45:15 AM
Site has been purged and photos can once again be posted.
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Post by: Jane on August 28, 2006, 11:46:40 AM

So my task now is to figure out how to change the elephant's perception.


Please let me know if you find the answer.

Jeanne-your advice is very good, something I often do.  It works when life is difficult & we just need to remember the good things in life we have.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:47:03 AM
Since it has been purged, we will soon see proof with Ron posting a photograph....
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:47:54 AM
Well spoken words Jeanne...
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:49:30 AM


What's the word, Hummingbird?"



Tweet, Tweet!
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Post by: TPunk on August 28, 2006, 11:52:16 AM
I'm sure DR TPunk meant Bob Newhart rather than Bob Hope when she mentioned the gag that recurred during the Emmy Awards last night.

I sure did, thanks for catching it.  That's what I get for posting under the influence of cold medicine.
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Post by: Ginny on August 28, 2006, 12:03:51 PM
Here is the picture I tried to post earlier:
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Post by: Jane on August 28, 2006, 12:14:57 PM
And the photo I tried to post on Saturday.

Fred & Skip's sweet Toby & Dylan.
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Post by: Jane on August 28, 2006, 12:16:43 PM
We always had music in our house, mostly classical.  My father played the piano and we would, all off key, sing folk songs.

 I must have done something right as both boys love music, Craig so much he got in degree in communications with the intention of being a DJ.  Since his stint in the Peace Corps he wants to get a degree in Government Policy.  
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Post by: Jennifer on August 28, 2006, 12:23:35 PM
I watched the Emmys last night and would just describe it as average. I did think Conan was funny, and enjoyed his opening. But I watch a lot of tv and I just wasn't excited by the show overall.

Yes the Aaron Spelling and Dick Clark tributes were nice. And everything was fine. But I really did not care for most of the winners (actually i did not care for most of the nominees in general).
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Post by: FJL on August 28, 2006, 12:24:45 PM
Jane - Toby has Martian eyes in that photo.

And Dylan seems to be looking up someone's shorts, but actually must be hoping that person would drop some food.
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Post by: elmore3003 on August 28, 2006, 12:36:15 PM
It irks me when the tune, Irish Washerwoman, is played.

I've always liked it myself, ever since I learned to play it for a 1968 production of OH, WHAT A LOVELY WAR!  The song was originally published in Dublin, 1788, so it isn't an Irish-american tune, but the real McCoy.  I've always been partial to "Moore's Irish Melodies," published originally in 10 volumes between 1808 and 1834, myself.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:57:53 PM
And the photo I tried to post on Saturday.

Fred & Skip's sweet Toby & Dylan.



:D
And what are the dogs' names?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 12:58:29 PM
I'm still all aglow over:
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 01:04:51 PM
And here's a December release that's sure to bring joy to many...available for pre-order at Amazon.com:
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 28, 2006, 01:07:50 PM
I cringe when Irish Washerwomen sing "People."
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 28, 2006, 01:08:45 PM
And the photo I tried to post on Saturday.

Fred & Skip's sweet Toby & Dylan.
"Hey, I can see up this guy's pants leg!"
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Post by: S. Woody White on August 28, 2006, 01:10:15 PM
The CD of Candide that der Brucer ordered has arrived.  Still love the cover.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 01:22:02 PM
Had a long lunch and then mailed some packages at the post office. It's hot out, but I simply must mow the front yard today. We're expecting rain tomorrow, and it will be a jungle if another rain hits it before it's mowed.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 01:25:43 PM
And here's a December release that's sure to bring joy to many...available for pre-order at Amazon.com:

For me, it means I'll be able to ditch the DVD-R I made from the TCM broadcast.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 01:28:11 PM
Page Four Angus MacBadger Dance!!!


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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 01:30:45 PM
I started this afternoon with last night's GREY'S ANATOMY.

I finally got to see what led to George's leaving the house and to Denny's return to the hospital.

To be honest, I got a little irritated with the cat and mouse George and Meredith stuff until I saw the flashback that showed what their night together was like. Heartbreaking for poor George.

I see where Sara Ramirez went after she left SPAMALOT, but I'm not sold on her as a partner for George.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 01:31:37 PM
RENO 911! (was this the season finale?) had an OK episode, but the season has had funnier ones.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 01:32:22 PM
ENTOURAGE's season finale was pretty disturbing. Some spoiled Hollywood stars (and their hangers-on; just makes you sick.)
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Post by: Ginny on August 28, 2006, 01:33:05 PM
For all you Erik Larson fans, this is due out Oct. 24, 2006:
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 01:34:07 PM
At some point last night I recorded HONDO off TCM. I never got around to buying the DVD that was released several months ago, so I watched about 45 minutes of it off the DVR this afternoon. I'll have to do some searches of reviews about the quality of the DVD's transfer. The medium and close shots looked fine, but long shots looked very soft. Does the fact it was shot originally in 3-D have anything to do with that?
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Post by: Ginny on August 28, 2006, 01:55:59 PM
DR PennyO - this quote from Jacqueline Winspear's website (http://www.jacquelinewinspear.com/creativity.htm) might be useful in your workshop.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 02:31:28 PM
"All alone Monday, singin' the blues . . . ."
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 02:43:16 PM
Heading down now to clean the dining room and then mow the front yard. Then, to finish HONDO and watch THE CLOSER (big events happening to Brenda tonight).

WBBL.

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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 02:51:31 PM
"Rainy Days and Mondays always get me down...."
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Post by: Tomovoz on August 28, 2006, 02:57:09 PM
"Tuesday's Dead" - (Cat Stevens)
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Post by: FJL on August 28, 2006, 02:58:21 PM
OK, I know I've linked to the LAST STARFIGHTER NYMF page before, but now it's really got that most important "oomph" factor -

BK's bio.


http://www.nymf.org/index.php?module=ShowManager&func=display&sid=540
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Post by: bk on August 28, 2006, 03:56:42 PM
I posted about Hondo's transfer, but can't remember what I said.  I think it looks pretty good as I recall.
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Post by: bk on August 28, 2006, 03:59:12 PM
Still proofing after all these years.  Had to take a couple of hours and attend to some errands.  I'm almost finished with the final story, then must go back to the top and begin again, although the second time through will go much, much faster.
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Post by: Cillaliz on August 28, 2006, 03:59:31 PM
Thanks for asking! It was just great! Eight people had signed up on the library's list, and I had a nice bunch of walk-in's who had found out about it in the Redmond Reporter (local newspaper), which had kindly highlighted my workshops in their calendar. A library staff person came, too - he's a novelist/screenwriter who had put all his manuscripts away years ago, and brought them out again this week in anticipation of being with other writers in a workshop.

The most intriguing aspect of the evening was the fear factor - sheer terror - plaguing most of the participants. At one point toward the end of the two hours, I was addressing this block that several of them had mentioned and asked for help with... I was saying that I wasn't braver than anyone else, I didn't possess more courage than any of them... when I realized that just wasn't true. Something dawned.

Courage and optimism is a gift. Not everyone is born with it. I have been doing workshops like this one for over twenty years - and my blithe suggestions to students to "just take the next step... just get on with it" have been my too-facile response to a crippling handicap. I didn't know. It just never occurred to me that a lot of people are actually crippled by a fear of taking action.

I had the flash of insight about domesticated elephants: handlers chain baby elephants to a post for a couple of years. The babies struggle to get loose and find themselves helpless. After a year or two, the chain is replaced by a rope. Adult elephants never consider that they can take three steps and break the rope... it just never occurs to them...they have been conditioned to believe they are helplessly chained. Reality is something we are conditioned to, and facts don't change it...

So my task now is to figure out how to change the elephant's perception.



This is fascinating to me. It's a lot like the attitude of a lot of my clients who are afraid to try anything outside their experience and the world as they know it, even though that world has brought them problems, pain and sometimes a lack of freedom.  

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Post by: Cillaliz on August 28, 2006, 04:06:20 PM
Jane - Toby has Martian eyes in that photo.

And Dylan seems to be looking up someone's shorts, but actually must be hoping that person would drop some food.

And is he thinking "You don't have to shave your legs for me"
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Post by: Cillaliz on August 28, 2006, 04:07:48 PM
For all you Erik Larson fans, this is due out Oct. 24, 2006:

Thanks for this update. I do like his books
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 04:08:28 PM
"Tuesday's Dead" - (Cat Stevens)


"Wednesday's Song".....

You'll make it through the day
See things another way and behold
Listen to wednesday's song
This night you go home alone
How the sane go upright
How you look another night
You're back under my hat
And even knowing that you're a whore
Nothing ever meant more...
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 04:10:20 PM
And now I've heard from Amazon.com.

And guess what?

They say it was ALL A MISUNDERSTANDING!

They apologized for the e-mail that was sent out in error.


Harrumph!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 04:10:57 PM
"Thursday's Child is Full of Woe"
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Post by: Cillaliz on August 28, 2006, 04:16:28 PM
DR PennyO - this quote from Jacqueline Winspear's website (http://www.jacquelinewinspear.com/creativity.htm) might be useful in your workshop.

This is really good, Ginny.  

I also like to talk someone through the fear. (Many times it's myself) What's the worst thing that could happen?  It usually isn't that bad when you actually put it into words and really look at it and often isn't much different from where they are now.  Then look at what's the best thing that could happen? Talk through the good thing and how much do you want that?  Are you willing to risk the worst to have a chance to get the best?   If the answer is yes, then it's just a matter of getting started. If the answer is no,  then maybe it isn't the thing to do, maybe they don't have the commitment to that particular idea or thing etc.

Just my 2 cents.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on August 28, 2006, 04:45:14 PM
Some annoying thing has been nagging at me all day, and I've finally pinpointed what it is.

"Monk's" season went on hiatus with this past Friday's crappy episode.

New shows will start up again in January.  The same applies to "Psych."  Something about USA not wanting either show to overstay its welcome??

But...Tony Shalhoub wins another Emmy for his acting in "Monk".

And the show is on hiatus until January.

He won an Emmy.  Arguably, folks who don't watch MIGHT consider watching...if the show were playing.  But USA has put it on hiatus.

Until January.

Until then, no more episodes of "Monk"...to my knowledge, that includes reruns ('cause if new episodes might scare away an audience, wouldn't reruns be worse?).

It's nice to know that cable network jobs are open to morons.
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Post by: elmore3003 on August 28, 2006, 05:15:46 PM
I'm back from a rehearsal of THE TRAGIC & HORRIBLE LIFE. . . http://singingnunthemusical.com/
I had a meeting with the director and composer about the choral arrangement of the finale.  I'm quite excited about this piece.
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Post by: TCB on August 28, 2006, 05:27:11 PM
I have officially given up on this week's trivia contest.  I thought I was on to something, but it was not to be.  Still, I love trying to solve them.  Thank you, BK, for taking the time to do them.
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Post by: Maria on August 28, 2006, 06:05:09 PM

I'm going to Ottawa for a couple of nights in October and have done something I've never done before: booked a B&B. The price is incredibly good, the location is perfect (near the National Arts Center, where I'll be attending a function), beautiful room ("the Jacobean Suite") facing the garden,  an ensuite bath. Breakfast included. $80. a night!
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Post by: Ginny on August 28, 2006, 06:06:03 PM
I'm back from a rehearsal of THE TRAGIC & HORRIBLE LIFE. . . http://singingnunthemusical.com/
I had a meeting with the director and composer about the choral arrangement of the finale.  I'm quite excited about this piece.

DR Elmore - the clips on the site sound clever.  Wish we were going to be there during the run!
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Post by: Ginny on August 28, 2006, 06:13:10 PM
...I also like to talk someone through the fear. (Many times it's myself) What's the worst thing that could happen?  It usually isn't that bad when you actually put it into words and really look at it and often isn't much different from where they are now.  Then look at what's the best thing that could happen? Talk through the good thing and how much do you want that?  Are you willing to risk the worst to have a chance to get the best?   If the answer is yes, then it's just a matter of getting started. If the answer is no,  then maybe it isn't the thing to do, maybe they don't have the commitment to that particular idea or thing etc....

DR Cillaliz - one of my mantras is, "Everything's a trade-off."
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Post by: TCB on August 28, 2006, 06:27:33 PM
I watched the Emmy Awards last night.  I had hoped that Christopher Meloni would win Best Actor in a Drama because of his fine work on LAW AND ORDER: SVU.  However, I was certainly not disappointed or upset that Kiefer Sutherland won the award for "24".  I think that Mr. Sutherland is one of the more talented actors of his generation, and that "24" is one of the most original shows to appear on network television in many years.  My congratulations to all of those nominated in the various categories.  
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Post by: Cillaliz on August 28, 2006, 06:50:36 PM
Did anyone seen Grey Gardens in its off broadway run? If it was mentioned before, sorry, I wasn't paying attention.  I'm considering getting tickets for the Sat Mat while we're there and if JH is burned out on theatre he can have an afternoon sans his Aunt and I would have an extra ticket for someone who wanted to go with me
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Post by: Ginny on August 28, 2006, 06:54:56 PM
Did anyone seen Grey Gardens in its off broadway run? If it was mentioned before, sorry, I wasn't paying attention.  I'm considering getting tickets for the Sat Mat while we're there and if JH is burned out on theatre he can have an afternoon sans his Aunt and I would have an extra ticket for someone who wanted to go with me

Hmmm, I think DR Ben might have discussed this show.
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Post by: Ginny on August 28, 2006, 06:55:22 PM
Page 5, at last.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on August 28, 2006, 06:56:12 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Vibes to DR Danise, who may be needing them soon!
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Post by: Cillaliz on August 28, 2006, 07:18:11 PM
I used the handy dandy search function and did indeed find several posts from DR Ben.   Hmmmm.....American Express has a deal on tickets right now
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Post by: Jane on August 28, 2006, 07:26:24 PM
FJL-I’m sorry I don’t know how to get rid of Martian eyes.  At least they aren’t red. ;D

Ginny-Thanks for the quote.  I sent it on to someone in need of it.

Maria the B & B sounds lovely.  
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Post by: Jane on August 28, 2006, 07:29:50 PM
OK, I know I've linked to the LAST STARFIGHTER NYMF page before, but now it's really got that most important "oomph" factor -

BK's bio.


http://www.nymf.org/index.php?module=ShowManager&func=display&sid=540

Bruce does this mean I will see you in NY in Oct?
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Post by: Jane on August 28, 2006, 07:32:56 PM
'night.
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Post by: Michael on August 28, 2006, 07:34:34 PM
There's a hurricane headed my way.

(http://image.weather.com/images/maps/pt_BR/tropical/strm5_strike_720x486.jpg)
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Post by: Cillaliz on August 28, 2006, 08:01:24 PM
Ben, I noticed in one of your old posts that you were considering watching the documentary Grey Gardens. Did you ever see it?
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Post by: elmore3003 on August 28, 2006, 08:13:59 PM
I watched THE CLOSER, did a bit of computer work, and now I'm going to sleep.  I have no other news to report.
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Post by: Rodzinski on August 28, 2006, 08:24:19 PM
I watched a movie this weekend called PHONE CALL FROM A STRANGER. It was an intriguing premise, well acted.
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Post by: Rodzinski on August 28, 2006, 08:25:40 PM
I watched some of GREY GARDENS once, as I'd always wanted to see it, but it was a hard movie to watch and I didn't make it too far.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on August 28, 2006, 08:31:27 PM
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Vibes to DR Michael S, who may be needing them soon!


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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 08:40:13 PM
Finished HONDO when I went back down stairs (after cleaning the dining room and mowing the front yard: a busy evening).

The TCM print continued to be great in close-ups and mediocre in long shots.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 08:43:29 PM
When it finished, I didn't have time to watch the complete DEADWOOD, so I'm saving it for tomorrow and instead watched the last 40 minutes of LAW & ORDER on TNT-HD. This was an episode from about four or five years ago cleverly setting up a father and son set of mobsters ratting each other out, only it was a scam for them both to beat the rap. McCoy turned the tables on them. Very clever episode.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 08:45:35 PM
The USA TODAY TV critic was very hard on tonight's episode of THE CLOSER. He said the murderer was obvious from the get-go. I certainly didn't find it so. I found the plot very twisty and interesting and loved the final confrontation.

In addition, the upsetting part of Brenda's personal life that came out added an additional degree of tension to the proceedings. What a WITCH Chief Pope's ex-wife proved herself to be!
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 08:46:42 PM
Then rewatched the interesting MEDIUM episode about some vengeful ghosts. Didn't remember quite how the Ariel story resolved itself, so I ended up enjoying the episode all over again.
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 08:47:49 PM
I recorded tonight's episode of VANISHED and will watch it and DEADWOOD tomorrow.

Tomorrow is also THE YELLOW ROLLS ROYCE day. Alas, my cable guide still says it isn't letterboxed. :(
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Post by: Matt H. on August 28, 2006, 09:03:01 PM
Heading off to bed now.

Good night!
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Post by: MBarnum on August 28, 2006, 09:04:28 PM
Got a lot of goodies in the mail today...once particular item of interest (to me) is a copy of the up to this point, never seen by me, Allison Hayes film COUNTERPLOT (1959) on DVD courtesy of DR JRand56!! Woohoo!

It is always great fun to see Allison in something that I have not ever seen before!!
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Post by: MBarnum on August 28, 2006, 09:08:11 PM
(http://ftp.filmfavorites.biz/pub/SA02837.jpg)

Actually the shocks didn't really come too fast to count...I was able to easily count them...on one hand...and it pretty much consisted of Allison's plunging neckline.
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Post by: elmore3003 on August 28, 2006, 09:18:17 PM
So, I went to bed, and the blasted SINGING NUN choral fnale won't let me sleep.

I hate that.
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Post by: Maria on August 28, 2006, 09:32:52 PM
TOD - First music I remember - The Nutcracker when I was 2.
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Post by: Maria on August 28, 2006, 09:33:54 PM
VIBES to Michael S!
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Post by: bk on August 28, 2006, 09:44:35 PM
All right, I want the names of the errant and truant.

Back from a dinner meeting that lasted over two hours.  I'm exhausted and shall now sit on my couch like so much fish.  I must get up very early tomorrow to finish the final proofing.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:40:06 PM
Safety vibes to both Michael S and other readers from the southeast... Please take care...
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:40:30 PM
Had a very busy night at work today...
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Post by: George on August 28, 2006, 11:45:08 PM
So, I went to bed, and the blasted SINGING NUN choral fnale won't let me sleep.

I hate that.

Shoot it again.

;)
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Post by: DakotaCelt on August 28, 2006, 11:52:01 PM
I am feeling a bit under the weather. I am going to turn in for the night...
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Post by: George on August 28, 2006, 11:52:53 PM
Good night, DakotaCelt.  Sleep well.  Hope you feel better, soon!
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Post by: George on August 28, 2006, 11:53:14 PM
PAGE SIX!!!

(It's about time! ::))
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Post by: George on August 28, 2006, 11:56:31 PM
I have been errant and truant this evening...potential condo purchasing issues.  I sent an e-mail last Thursday night/Friday morning to Sheryl, my real estate agent (I have an agent!) telling her that I am interested in making an official offer on a condo (this particular unit has been on the market since late May).  I didn't hear back from her...all weekend I heard nothing!  THEN late Sunday night, she e-mails my sister (who has been dealing with her for me) saying that the unit isn't listed anymore and that the sellers probably have decided to put the condo back into the rental pool.  Would we want to look at some other smaller units in the same complex?  NOOOO!!  Right away, my sister e-mails Sheryl asking if she got my e-mail and if it's not too late to make an offer, anyway.  Today, Sheryl said that the only thing that she thinks could've happened is that she (or her husband...yea, that's it, her husband!) must have accidentally deleted my original e-mail, or her spam-blocker might have accidentally wiped it out before she got a chance to see it (my sister's boyfriend has known and worked with Sheryl for years, and she has been very, very trustworthy...and just an overall nice person, so there's been no question of her maliciously deleting my e-mail).

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Post by: George on August 28, 2006, 11:57:24 PM
Anyway, Sheryl (who is fairly new at this...and it's not her full-time job) called me tonight and has given my information to her boss for her input (all Ts must be crossed and Is dotted, you know).  So, I officially told Sheryl that I'm ready to make an offical offer on a condo!!

Now, I just have to get the actual financing.  I got three offers from LendingTree.com (through Costco.com) and have given them some information, but some of that's changed, so I need to update all of it.  Hopefully, it'll all be quick and painless...and quick.