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Title: HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: bk on September 11, 2006, 12:21:17 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you are feeling no high dudgeon, and now it is time for you to post until the cows come home - they're feeling a little dudgeon right now and trying to get over it.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: bk on September 11, 2006, 12:22:04 AM
And the word of the day is: HEREDITAMENT!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: bk on September 11, 2006, 12:24:06 AM
And now - Dino at the piano.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 12:27:29 AM
As Dakota was saying:

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Tempted to make corned beef soemtime down the road...

Yes - in a big pot with steamed potatoes, carrots and cabbage; served with lots of german mustard - rye bread with gobs of butter!

der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 12:31:46 AM
TOTD:

Since I was working nights, I was lying on the couch watching the today show and was up earlier than usual due to back spasms. I was in a groggy state of mind until I heard the word of the World trade tower had been struck. I was quickly jarred out of my state of mind and watched as the events unfolded. I still remember vividly watching the smoke pouring out of the building and sitting there in complete and utter shock. It was not long after that the second trade tower was hit. It was tough watching that and I had tears in my eyes as I watched both towers collapse.

I went to work later in the afternoon, and they had a large telly in circulation broadcasting the events. IT was surreal in someways as we were all going through the emotions. I was numb and in shock.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 12:34:39 AM
There is a country-western song written by Alan Jackson  about 9-11.

"Where Were You When the World Stopped Turning"
Where were you when the world stop turning on that September day
Were you in the yard with your wife and children
Or working on some stage in L.A.
Did you stand there in shock at the sight of that black smoke
Rising against that blue sky
Did you shout out in anger, in fear for your neighbor
Or did you just sit down and cry

Did you weep for the children who lost their dear loved ones
And pray for the ones who don't know
Did you rejoice for the people who walked from the rubble
And sob for the ones left below
Did you burst out in pride for the red, white and blue
And the heroes who died just doin' what they do
Did you look up to heaven for some kind of answer
And look at yourself and what really matters

I'm just a singer of simple songs
I'm not a real political man
I watch CNN but I'm not sure I could
Tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran
But I know Jesus and I talk to God
And I remember this from when I was young
Faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us
And the greatest is love

Where were you when the world stop turning on that September day
Teaching a class full of innocent children
Or driving down some cold interstate
Did you feel guilty 'cause you're a survivor
In a crowded room did you feel alone
Did you call up your mother and tell her you loved her
Did you dust off that Bible at home

Did you open your eyes, hope it never happened
And you close your eyes and not go to sleep
Did you notice the sunset the first time in ages
Or speak to some stranger on the street
Did you lay down at night and think of tomorrow
Go out and buy you a gun
Did you turn off that violent old movie you're watchin'
And turn on "I Love Lucy" reruns

Did you go to a church and hold hands with some strangers
Stand in line and give your own blood
Did you just stay home and cling tight to your family
Thank God you had somebody to love

I'm just a singer of simple songs
I'm not a real political man
I watch CNN but I'm not sure I could
Tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran
But I know Jesus and I talk to God
And I remember this from when I was young
Faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us
And the greatest is love



Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: bk on September 11, 2006, 12:35:21 AM
Speaking of Dino at the piano - here's a little something I picked up at the book fair yesterday.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 12:36:16 AM
A number of Matt fans who live in NYC remember the day vividly and they are recounting their experiences on the Connotator. One gal actually watched from a bridge the towers came down.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 12:37:43 AM
From  Word Maven (http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19970613):

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...dudgeon means, as you say, something like 'a feeling of offense or resentment; anger; indignation', and is almost always found in the phrase "in high dudgeon." The word is first recorded in the late sixteenth century.

I cannot, unfortunately, tell you the origin of the word. It is yet another in that large category labelled "origin unknown." One can make a few observations: a -udgeon ending is found in some other words (bludgeon, curmudgeon)--both of which are also of uncertain origin.


der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 12:45:57 AM
TOD:

On the evening of September 10th I had fallen asleep with the TV on, tuned to Fox News. I was just stiring when the first plane hit, and came wide awake at once!

I don't think I left the TV for close to a week!

Shortly I get to do it again - Fox is reruning their 9/11 broadcast starting at 8:30. It is fascinating to observe how the full horror of the day unfolds. After the first plane hit the discussion was about how could such an accident happen. When the second plane hits, there is some confusion over whether or not it is the earlier hit played from a diffrent angle. Then the relization that it was, indeed, another plane hitting the other tower. And the announcer says "This was no accident!!!!")

der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 12:49:40 AM
TOD:

On the evening of September 10th I had fallen asleep with the TV on, tuned to Fox News. I was just stiring when the first plane hit, and came wide awake at once!

I don't think I left the TV for close to a week!

Shortly I get to do it again - Fox is reruning their 9/11 broadcast starting at 8:30. It is fascinating to observe how the full horror of the day unfolds. After the first plane hit the discussion was about how could such an accident happen. When the second plane hits, there is some confusion over whether or not it is the earlier hit played from a diffrent angle. Then the relization that it was, indeed, another plane hitting the other tower. And the announcer says "This was no accident!!!!")

der Brucer

CNN is doin git also both broadcast and online...
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 12:51:36 AM
The aftermath of the 9-11 tragedy opened a lot of wounds from my freind Cassie who grew up in Belfast. She worked in education as a social worker and the faces she saw on the children and the heartache they faced opened wounds for her. She saw people blown up on a street in Belfast more than once. She still cannot watch the WTC footage. Her and husband lost several freinds and a cousin.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 12:52:29 AM
I was numb for a number of days... That initial night at work was heck and very difficult to concentrate on the tasks at hand.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 12:55:53 AM
Interesting book bk...
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 01:10:14 AM
Bedtime - 'nite Dakota.

der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Tomovoz on September 11, 2006, 04:35:19 AM
Good morning New Yorkers DRs Elmore & Ben.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ben on September 11, 2006, 04:37:02 AM
Good Morning Tom. You will be easy to recognize :-)
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Tomovoz on September 11, 2006, 04:40:12 AM
MMMM I'll think about that Ben.  I won't be doing my Hugh Jackman impersonations.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: S. Woody White on September 11, 2006, 04:44:46 AM
As Dakota was saying:Yes - in a big pot with steamed potatoes, carrots and cabbage; served with lots of german mustard - rye bread with gobs of butter!

der Brucer
Is this a hint?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Tomovoz on September 11, 2006, 04:44:54 AM
and Good morning S Woody.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: S. Woody White on September 11, 2006, 04:54:15 AM
TOD:

On the evening of September 10th I had fallen asleep with the TV on, tuned to Fox News. I was just stiring when the first plane hit, and came wide awake at once!

I don't think I left the TV for close to a week!
Not that there's anything special about der B falling asleep with the news on - he does that all the time.

I had a doctor's appointment that day, so I didn't have to get up early.  Get up early I did, however, as der B came running into the room where I was, shouting for me to "get up and watch this!"

Der B did leave the TV, contrary to his memory.  He drove me to the doctor's appointment, where I was shocked to find out that the doctor didn't care one whit about what was happening.

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Shortly I get to do it again - Fox is reruning their 9/11 broadcast starting at 8:30. It is fascinating to observe how the full horror of the day unfolds. After the first plane hit the discussion was about how could such an accident happen. When the second plane hits, there is some confusion over whether or not it is the earlier hit played from a diffrent angle. Then the relization that it was, indeed, another plane hitting the other tower. And the announcer says "This was no accident!!!!")

der Brucer
So, he'll be up before I leave for work?  With the vampire hours he's been keeping lately?   ::)
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: S. Woody White on September 11, 2006, 04:54:57 AM
Good Morning, good Tomovoz!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: S. Woody White on September 11, 2006, 04:59:48 AM
And the word of the day is: HEREDITAMENT!
ETHER AND TIME do not a HEREDITAMENT make.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: S. Woody White on September 11, 2006, 05:10:57 AM
When Cornelius went to see his boss, the foolish boy ENTREATED HIM to include him in the HEREDITAMENT.  Horace became so enraged by this affrontery that HE TERMINATED Cornelius and left everything to Barnaby instead.  Ambrose didn't care - he had his painting to support himself and Ermingarde - and Ermingarde had long since learned better than to give the MARTINET HEED.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: elmore3003 on September 11, 2006, 05:11:15 AM
Good morning, all!  I have a short trek to Toyland and then a 3 hour rehearsal with the SINGING NUN band.  For some reason I keep thinking today is Labor Day rather than 9/11, but perhaps it's my denial.

I flew to London early in Sept, 2001, my second first-class trip on British Airways that year, to record Victor Herbert's THE LADY OF THE SLIPPER as a part of the Packard Humanities Institute's American Musical Theatre Project, with the London Sinfonietta and a conductor whose ego was out of contol and whose whims refused to follow a daily schedule: as a result, on the morning of 9/11, George Dvorsky and Hugh Panaro, playing the Montgomery & Stone roles, had been waiting all morning around the studio at Henry Wood Hall.  

After our lunch break, George and Hugh went to the manager's office to kill the time by watching television.   This would have been around 1:30 PM, London time, which was around 8:30 AM EDT.  I don't remember what we were recording at the time, but one of them came into the booth to announce that a plane had just hit the World Trade Center.  I thought that perhaps a small plane had lost its bearings and crashed, but because the maestro had made the recordng studio so unpleaant and tense, I thought it would be fun to hang out with George and Hugh watching the reports on a New York event.  I didn't know then that Myra, my best friend Matthew's ex-fiance from Boston, was one of the passengers.

I got to the office to learn that the plane hadn't been a small plane but a large aircraft and I sat spellbound watching the second plane hit and the fall of the two towers.  It was like watching a sci fi movie and I had a hard time believing that I was watching events taking place in my hometown.  I believe I stayed glued to the tv for several hours, at which point I ran to the phone and called my goddaughter's family; Ron was in California singing that weekend in a concert, Charlotte was at school but now trapped in the Bronx since all the bridges and tunnels leading to Manhattan were closed, and Dona said she was fine but not leaving the apartment.

Everyone in the studio - Donna Lynne Champlin, Rosemary Harris, Hugh and George, Jack Dabdoub, and the USA staff spent several hours wondering how friends we knew who worked at the Trade Center or in the vicinity might be, there was a lot of crying and a lot of anxiety about friends who were to fly to London on 9/11 for the project: tenor Jeffrey Lentz, my music prep colleague Curtis Moore, Betty Auman from the LoC.

Curtis had the worst of it: his 9:15 am British Airways flight hit the runway, sped up to fly, slowed down, turned around and went back to the terminal.  It took him the rest of the day trying to get back to his apartment in the Village; a taxi from JFK finally left him in the Bronx, where he walked across the bridge with his luggage.  His World Trade Center casualty was the ex-boyfriend of a friend, living near the Trade Center, who has not been found.  We think he went out to check on the situation and the  building fell on him.

A friend of mine and DR Ginny's worked in the building that collapsed later in the day around 4 PM.  I had my brother call his mother to check on him.  His management wisely evacuated after the first plane crash.  I wish the other companies had followed that bit of wisdom.

Beyond all these concerns, the other worrying those of us stuck in London - my return flight was scheduled for Sept 22 -  was how and when we might return to the States.  We had no idea what would happen next, from war to more terror activities.  Luckily we had work to do, a good group of people - except for the maestro and a recording producer whose hygiene suggested he bathed once a month if he really needed it - and a nice hotel on Oxford Street, where each of us retired every evening to follow the events on the news.  Rosemary Harris, one of the great ladies, couldn't fly back to the States, so every day she would come to the studio and hang out with us, cheering the singers after a take and helping to lighten our spirits.  

As well as a great London staff - from the Sinfonietta players and personnel to Alison Fox and the recording crew - we also had wonderful performers in London on the project - Rosemary Ashe, Kim Criswell, Simon Green - whose energy and sympathy who helped the time pass as pleasantly as possble.  God bless them each and every one.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: elmore3003 on September 11, 2006, 05:28:57 AM
When I got back to New York after the most frightening flight I've ever been on, I had jury duty the first week of October.  Coming out of the subway not far from the courthouse was like entering a war zone:  blockades and police everywhere.  Looking down to the end of the island, instead of the towers, there was this heavy layer of ash, smoke, and dust.  I was luckily only on jury duty for four days or so, and I say luckily because I hated the walk to and from the courthouse every day becuase it was depressing:  weeping profusely, I muttered "God bless you" to every police and fire personnel I passed coming and going.  

On a lighter note, in response to DR Cillaliz' post about the affiliate not carrying the 9/11 documentary, I love the freedom of British television:  the first plance crash caught on videotape shown by the BBC was a videotaping of a construction crew - Con Ed, I recall - and a sudden explosion, at which sound the camera turned to the Trade Center with the burning hole in its middle and an exclamation of "Holy shit!!" by the camera man.  This footage was shown for a full week at regular intervals and no one in England seemed dismayed by the expletive.  The BBC also showed footage of people jumping from the Towers, and I don't know if any of that was seen here or not.

Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: S. Woody White on September 11, 2006, 05:38:30 AM
I remember watching the jumpers that morning, as it happened.  I don't think the footage was repeated very often.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: S. Woody White on September 11, 2006, 05:53:49 AM
Come to think of it, it was the footage of those stranded in the upper floors jumping from the buildings that disturbed me most, and the doctor's lack of response that led to my walking out of that office later that day.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: elmore3003 on September 11, 2006, 06:14:07 AM
When we recorded, for the same project, Jerome Kern's wonderful 1917 show HAVE A HEART, there was lyric to the song "It's a Sure Sure Sign":
  If you wake in nine-eleven
  When your room is six-o-seven
  It's a sure sure sign

When we did the retake with Kim Criswell in Sept 2002, it was decided to change the room number to five-eleven.  Whoever thought then that five years later several of these recordings would still be looking for a release date?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: William E. Lurie on September 11, 2006, 06:23:14 AM
I was at the office reading HHW before starting work when one of the women here got a call to turn on the television.  We did, and the rest is history...
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ginny on September 11, 2006, 06:39:30 AM
Tuesday morning greetings.

TOD - My morning five years ago was very much like this morning.  Scheduled to work 9am-6pm, I'd arrived my customary 15-20 minutes early and was in the Telephone Reference Center with my favorite co-worker, Sue.  She said, "A plane just hit the World Trade Center," and my initial reaction was similar to DR Elmore's - accident.  In fact, I think I said something like I was surprised that sort of thing didn't happen more often.  Shortly, though it became clear that it was more than that and we tried to use the internet to get details.  The scariest thing was that the internet slowed almost to a stop and we couldn't get any info.

Like DR SWW, I was appalled at the disinterest of some of my co-workers, including the then-manager of our department.  She didn't think we had any reason for a TV in the department and was even bent out of shape when we insisted that we at least have a radio (we do keep one of those for weather emergencies).  So, because we had no TV and the internet was so slow, I saw no video of the events until I got home that night.  

The day at the library was extremely quiet and the powers that be had decided that the best thing was for us to stay open our regular hours, until 9pm.  Then, quite abruptly at 5:25pm, a PA announcement was made that we were closing at 6pm.  We were wondering what they'd found out that had make them change their minds when there was what sounded like an explosion that shook the plate glass windows.  Then, I was scared.  As I walked to my car, fighter jets flew over, probably part of the President's escort back to DC, returning to nearby Wright Patterson AFB.  I was very glad to get home and hug my DH and my DS.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Charles Pogue on September 11, 2006, 06:57:43 AM
Like BK, The Lovely Wife and I were in bed snoozing, when we got a very loud call on our answering machine.  It was Harlan Ellison screaming over the phone, that "Armageddon" was happening and to get our asses out of bed.  We did and sat glued to the TV all day and late into the night...in fact, we slept in the television room that night.

Amidst the dumbfounded shock and horror, I admit two ugly and cynical thoughts crept into my mind. The first was a fleeting moment of conspiracy paranoia that the Republican Administration was behind this somehow, trying to prop up a flailing and failing presidency with some sort of tragedy.  I quickly dismissed this idea as being too ghastly for even the worst of their bunch.  

But as the day wore on, I cynically realized that the Republicans were going to make political hay of the tragedy and that Bush was finally going to have an issue to get him re-elected and ride to a second term on.  The Republicans need enemies to win and they had now found one.

In the days that ensued, you heard everyone praising Bush when in fact he did no more than any other sitting President would have done under the circumstances.  And, of course, any other sitting President would have stayed on point and in Afghanistan rather than diverting attention to Iraq, but Bush had promised heads on pike and when he couldn't get Osama Bin Laden, he had to find another bogeyman (Of course,  he had wanted to go after Saddam before 9/11 and, after it, Rummy pushed hard to go after him then).

There were two tragedies that day...the incredible, devastating, senseless loss of life and a second term for an incompetent administration was ensured.

We also flew to London in the aftermath of 9/11.  Virgin Atlantic was having deals on fares and Julieanne and I decided we would not let fear get the best of us, so we impulsively booked a flight for over Thanksgiving.  

It was actually the best time to fly in those ensuing months because security was never tighter.  We got bumped up to first class on the way over.  Though you felt pretty secure, you still silently racially profiled as various passengers got on the plane, wondering: "Is this guy the one?"  

Actually, we had a incident on the return where the flight attendents had to restrain someone who was acting bizarrely and abusively...turns out he was just a drunken Briton, but all the passengers were asked to write out eyewitness accounts and the guy was hauled off the plane at the end of the flight by law enforcement officials.

We had another relatively tense return from London a few years later, when we were flying back to the states the same morning the US began their war with Iraq.  Nothing happened on the flight, but one was a little more nervous than usual.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 07:29:50 AM
Good morning!

Beautiful morning here with cool temps and sunny (partly cloudy) skies. It may get to 80 today, but right now, it's blissfully cool.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 07:32:54 AM
Last night DR Tomovoz wrote in response to my compliment of his new avatar:

"Thank you - is that for shaving off the beard successfully?"


Actually, I prefer you (and most men) with beards. Just a personal preference.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 07:35:32 AM
I was sitting at this very computer (my downstairs laptop) chatting in a forum (not this one) when a message came up that a plane had flown into the World Trade Center, and they weren't kidding. I raced to the TV and sat there dumbstruck the rest of the day. Dumbstruck and tearful, and I get that way every time I see footage of that day and the aftermath.

I can't watch these documentaries. It's too painful, too raw even now to think about it. I cannot imagine what those of you living in NYC then were thinking and feeling.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 07:38:31 AM
I understand the President is going to speak tonight, and then regular Prime Time broadcasting will resume.

For those interested, NBC is showing two MEDIUM episodes tonight before the show goes on hiatus for awhile. The current plans are to bring it back at midseason after football leaves Sunday nights, but I think it will be back long before then.

Looking at NBC's schedule, I think the show KIDNAPPED (Wednesdays at 10 p.m. with a very weak lead-in and two strong shows on CBS and ABC opposite) is the most vulnerable to early cancellation, and it wouldn't surprise me for a second for NBC to bring MEDIUM back within a few weeks if KIDNAPPED doesn't earn its keep in the time slot.

MEDIUM held its own against CSI:MIAMI, so NBC would have no problem putting it opposite CSI:NY if it needs to.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ben on September 11, 2006, 07:50:51 AM
Well, I have exceeded expectations and finished the big project in approximately 4 hours. They thought it would take a couple of days. I knew it wouldn't but I didn't think I would finish quite so soon.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ginny on September 11, 2006, 07:54:42 AM
One big difference for me between today and five years ago today is the number of friends we now have living in NYC.  Then, I was concerned for DR Elmore and for my long-time (I never say old) friend Doug from Michigan.  I was able to ascertain, through a mutual friend here in Ohio, that DR Elmore was in London.  After sending Doug an email, I put on a bracelet he'd given me when we were in college and vowed to wear it until I heard from him.  Fortunately, I only had to wear it until the weekend.  He and his partner were both fine and we're looking forward to dinner with them in a few weeks.

In the ensuing weeks, I had nightmares and was very ill by the end of September.  Turned out I had pneumonia and was home until Oct. 18, glued to the TV, for the first days of the Afghan invasion and the anthrax scare.  DH Richard kept bringing me DVD's from the library to coax me away from CNN and MSNBC.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ben on September 11, 2006, 08:01:28 AM
I was here at the office when my sister in Minneapolis called. She sounded very odd and asked if I was OK. I assured her I was and she said a plane hit the WTC. Like so many others, I assumed it was a small private plane but as people were slowly coming into the office I realized the reality. Like Ginny, I tried to go to some Web sites but the traffic was so heavy that I couldn't go anywhere on line. I called Anthony and told him what was happening and he called his parents on Long Island.

We left the office for a short time. I went to the apartment, hugged Anthony and went back to the office to see what was happening. We closed around 9:45 or 10am. We made the same calls so many New Yorkers made that day. Short calls, probably less than a minute saying "Are you OK?" I also received calls from family and friends outside of New York asking the same thing.

We went to the Gristede's grocery store and picked up some bread, milk and other food. We then watched a LOT of news, mostly New York One our local news channel. We went out later in the afternoon and walked to the Hudson River. The smoke and ash seemed to be blowing over to Brooklyn so the sky was scarily clear with clouds and beautiful sunshine. As we approached the river World Trade Center Building 7 fell. It was surreal.

We walked back home. My office announced that we would be closed on Wednesday the 12th. We didn't think of going anywhere because there was no way to leave. Subway, commuter train, buses, bridges, etc were all closed. Anthony's mother thought we should try to leave but we didn't see the point even if there had been a way to get out.

That night for the first time in years and years I had dreams about the days events. Not quite a nightmare but I was dreaming of explosions and planes. It was a jittery night of sleep.

We woke up the next morning and went on. And that's what we've been doing for the past five years.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 08:07:41 AM
Having lunch today with best friend John, so I need to get cleaned up for that.


WBBL.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Charles Pogue on September 11, 2006, 08:13:35 AM
Matt H,  I'm like you.  I cannot and will not watch any of these rembrance shows.  Nor will I go see any dramatizations of the events.  I saw it for real that day.  Nothing can make that day more emotional or horrific. I don't want to re-hash it.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ginny on September 11, 2006, 08:25:15 AM
Matt H,  I'm like you.  I cannot and will not watch any of these rembrance shows.  Nor will I go see any dramatizations of the events.  I saw it for real that day.  Nothing can make that day more emotional or horrific. I don't want to re-hash it.

Agreed, DR Charles Pogue.  Tonight, we're touring the new elementary school in our neighborhood (built on the site of the building attended by our DS, and DR Elmore, I believe).  What better symbol of freedom and hope for the future than a state-of-the-art institution of learning?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Jennifer on September 11, 2006, 08:28:19 AM
For DR Cillaliz and anyone else who wanted to know what janelle said on Housecalls (big brother).

She was really sweet (jase was the co-host).

She did say that she did not go to sequester. She was staying at a hotel.

But there was one thing she said that shocked me.

Gretchen (host) asked her what will was saying to her during all those whisper sessions.

At first she would not say. She said that it wouldn't be right. And that will would be mad. But they eventually asked her to just say one thing. And they ended up getting her to spill.

I wasn't really expecting her to say anything much. But what she said will was whispering to her shocked me.

She said that he told her he was going to break up with his girlfriend. And that he wanted to commit to her (janelle) and that he wanted them to move in together.

Now we know he wasn't serious. So to me that was way far across the line. I'm not sure if janelle believed any of it. BUt i think she did a bit. ANd now it makes more sense why she thought that there was more between them.

For will to whisper those things meant he did not want anyone else to hear them (no wonder). I am not impressed that he did that.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 11, 2006, 08:36:31 AM
Good morning, fellow Dear Readers.

I had jury duty five years ago today. I wondered why the flag was at half-staff when the bus passed the army reserve. I arrived at the jury assembly room while the news reports were on and caught up with the story there.

I will have to bring out the couple of DVDs that I own today, because I am not going to watch any television shows today.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 11, 2006, 08:38:47 AM
 Unless I can find a good infomercial -- like the plastic crown molding, that can completely transform your home in only minutes!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: bk on September 11, 2006, 09:11:53 AM
I'm up, I'm up, and off to the post office.

I, too, will not be watching any television this day or night, because I know the various news shows too well, and they will edit and score these things in a way that will nauseate me.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 09:13:43 AM
Good Morning all.  5 years ago I got up and for some reason didn't turn on the TV. I always did, but not that morning.  I was driving to work and there was a brief mention about something happening a the World Trade Center. It was a goofy morning show, so I didn't know whether to believe it or not.  I flipped over to NPR and it wasn't until I was close to the Federal Building (where our office was at the time) that I started to get reports that this might be something real.

I went into the Federal Building and looked in the first office - which happened to be Senator Grassley's office. They were glued to the tv - so I went in and watched with them for a while.  I think that's about the time we heard about the Pentagon, I really don't remember. As I got to the elevator to go to my office my cell phone rang and it was my secretary. She wanted to know where I was. I told her and she said "You might as well turn around. No one knows what's really going on, so we're all being evacuated".  

I went home to my apartment (I had just recently moved here). I sat there by myself glued to the television and felt very helpless. I had been at a meeting at the Marriott World Trade Center and had a luncheon at Windows on the World less than a year earlier.  I got out the photos I'd taken and couldn't imagine jumping from that height.

I couldn't leave the TV, but felt like I had to do something, so I got in the car and went to the blood bank.  The line there was over a block long and inside the building it snaked through the halls.  There was a radio station  and a TV crew outside broadcasting the coverage so the people waiting could hear it.  All of a sudden, they started packing up quickly and said that Bush was on his way to Omaha, so they had to get down there.  I remember thinking how stupid it was that we all knew where he was going to hide - and that he was going to hide.  But SAC in Omaha has a runway that lifts up so that Air Force One can go underground to the bunker - if you're going to hide, it's a good place.

When I gave blood they discovered I had an irregular heartbeat which led to trips to the cardiologist etc...another story...it turned out to be nothing serious, but added to my confusion and shock that day.

I went home and watched the TV nonstop for what seemed like forever. I still felt helpless.  I wanted to do something to help, but there was really nothing I could do.  

My nephew, (not jhvw) was 20 and had just flown to London on Sept 8 to study for 10 weeks.  When the planes were grounded, we were all concerned about him.  It was a really strange feeling to think that he was in London with no way home and that they could be the next target.

I was concerned about my friends in New York.  Slowly through an email list we all belonged to, the reports came in on how people were doing, where they were etc. I was especially concerned about a friend who lived in Battery Park City.  I learned he was ok, and heard his tale of being covered in ashes when the towers fell and walking to his sister's house when I saw him a couple months later.

There is a Reserve base here that had F16s at the time. When the planes were grounded it would send a chill up my spine every time I heard them taking off or saw them overhead.  For being so far away from the actual events, I was amazed at how much it effected me.  
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 09:17:31 AM
I got an email back from the station that didn't show the 911 show. He said they had aired it twice before but because of the regulatory climate and the language in the piece they were worried about their license...chickens.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 09:18:46 AM
Not sure if I'll watch any 911 stuff.  I know I probably will
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 09:19:04 AM
Now I have to prepare for a hearing this afternoon....laters
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: MBarnum on September 11, 2006, 09:27:29 AM
TOD:

I woke up at my normal time to get ready for work. Flipped on the news and saw that the Today show was on, which was odd since it was not normally on that early on the west coast. Katie Couric and, I think, Matt Lauer were discussing that that a plane had hit the World Trade Center and that a second tower had just been hit...I recall her saying that it couldn't possibly be a coincidence.

I went and took my shower and then returned to the tv...at that point I realized it was something even more serious that I had first thought.

I think one tower collapsed before I left for work, but I cannot remember. I do remember that I was stunned the entire day and the next two days. My co-worker Amy and I moved a small TV to where our cubicles were and we watched the news all day...I don't think anyone in our office got any work done...in fact several people did not come in to work at all that day.

For that whole week I could not get enough of the news...I think I needed to keep seeing it all until it would finally sink in that this was for real...I have not watched any of the documentaries since that time until this week when I watched a couple that had the stories of people who survived....some who just barely made it out of the towers before they collapsed.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ginny on September 11, 2006, 09:34:44 AM
Not sure if I'll watch any 911 stuff.  I know I probably will

If I watch anything tonight, it'll be Larry King Live.  One of his scheduled guests is

Michael Hingson (http://www.guidedogs.com/bios-hingson.html)

who's speaking here in Dayton on Wednesday evening, co-sponsored by our Friends of the Library.  Unfortunately, I will be in Columbus Wednesday-Thursday speaking at and attending a conference and won't get to attend his presentation.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 09:40:34 AM
My freind Cassie and her husband and three kids were in Dublin visiting relatives and scheduled to fly back to NYC on Aer Lingus. When they were at the airport is when they found out about the planes crashing into WTC and that their flight to the US was grounded.  When they were finally able to return to the US, it was a very tense flight.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ginny on September 11, 2006, 09:49:10 AM
DR Cillaliz - any necklace news?  Maybe you'll just to have to buy 3 when we're in NYC soon  ;)
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 10:04:28 AM
DR Cillaliz - any necklace news?  Maybe you'll just to have to buy 3 when we're in NYC soon  ;)

None yet, I didn't dream about it (drat!)  I think there is one place it could be, I'm going to look tonight.  
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 10:07:18 AM
One other note about 5 years ago.  Being a federal employee we received almost daily and at least weekly security bulletins for a very long time. We had mandatory training when the color coded nonsense came out about what that meant for security in the building. (I never did get the color coded nonsense) Plus we got a white hazmat suit, very thick rubber gloves and masks in case we got suspicious mail.   It was a very strange environment for a while.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Maria on September 11, 2006, 10:16:49 AM
In September of 2001 I was living in Boulder, Colorado. DD was a senior in high school and had gone to early morning choir practice. I went for my morning walk, then turned on the little TV in the kitchen while I made coffee. That's when I saw what was happening.
I stood in that spot watching that little TV, not moving, not sitting down, for probably two hours.
Had to resist the impulse to go to the school - which was minutes from our home - and pick up DD to bring her home. I knew this was totally unnecessary, but logic had nothing to do with what I was feeling.

As mentioned a few days ago, tonight I'm going to see a staged reading of ELEGIES with Malcolm Gets, Liz Callaway, Randy Graff, Amick Byram and Daniel Tatar. The perfect thing to do this evening, as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: S. Woody White on September 11, 2006, 10:36:10 AM
Thoughts for today from  Dave Barry (http://blogs.herald.com/dave_barrys_blog/2006/09/today.html) (written five years ago)

Quote
"I'm not naive about my country. My country is definitely not always right; my country has at times been terribly wrong. But I know this about Americans: We don't set out to kill innocent people. We don't cheer when innocent people die ...

We may have the power of a giant, but we also have the heart of a good and generous people, and we will get through this. We will grieve for our dead, and tend to our wounded, and repair the damage, and tighten our security, and put our planes back in the air. Eventually most of us, the ones lucky enough not to have lost somebody, will resume our lives. Some day, our country will track down the rest of the monsters behind this, and make them pay, and I suppose that will make most of us feel a little better. But revenge and hatred won't be why we'll go on. We'll go on because we know this is a good country, a country worth keeping.

Those who would destroy it only make us see more clearly how precious it is,"

der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: JMK on September 11, 2006, 11:13:50 AM
Betsy had left the evening of September 10 for a business trip to Seattle.  My sister from NC had flown in on September 8 or so to visit and we had planned for almost a year to make September 11 the day we would go through my father's military memorabilia and decide what to keep.  I had started to defragment the computer late on the evening of September 10, so had left it on all night.  I got up early, since I was Mr. Mom and needed to get Gabe off to Kindergarten and Zach off to pre-school, and logged on to AOL for the "Breaking News" welcome screen that the first plane had hit.  About 5 seconds later, my sister and brother-in-law arrived, having breathlessly been listening to NPR.  "Turn on the tv, turn on the tv!," she shouted.  We turned it on just in time to see the second plane hit.  Somehow, though in shock, I got Gabe off to his first day on the bus to Kindergarten, and Zach to pre-school.  My sister, brother-in-law and I spent the day in the basement weeping for two reasons--the national tragedy and the more personal sadness of going through my Dad's collected papers from 60 odd years in the military.  Betsy somehow managed to get on a SRO train from Seattle to Portland and got home late in the evening of September 11.  God bless the many souls who perished that day.  This country needs to develop alternative energy sources ASAP so that we can kiss the oil producing nations goodbye forever.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 11:17:50 AM
Guess I should post under my own name.

I think bk is bribing the US Post Office - the Sondheim disc he mailed in CA on Friday was just now delivered here in DE.

Parsimonious lad, that bk - the disc was wrapped in an old newspaper ad.

A very nicely packaged CD! My first robin'e egg blue CD.

And a classy inside-the-back-cover dedication to the artist Sam Norkin.

der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 11:21:48 AM
 This country needs to develop alternative energy sources ASAP so that we can kiss the oil producing nations goodbye forever.

I'll second that! And in the meantime, I wish they'd replace our local coal burning super-polluting power plant with a nice new nuclear plant - clean, safe, efficient!

der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: bk on September 11, 2006, 11:31:39 AM
That was FAST, der Brucer.  I shipped, I jogged, and now shall be on my way to Mr. Grant Geissman's.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 11:41:39 AM
I'm not here.

Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 11:44:26 AM
I'll second that! And in the meantime, I wish they'd replace our local coal burning super-polluting power plant with a nice new nuclear plant - clean, safe, efficient!

der Brucer

It's well past time for nuclear science to catch up to computer science.

We've gone from computers that filled large rooms to microchips no larger than the head of a pin.  So why haven't we developed small nuclear cells for running cars?

Because (ahem)...of the same reason those last-forever tires were bought and filed away....it doesn't suit the purposes of the folks whose livelihoods depend upon maintaining the consumptive status quo.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:48:36 AM
I'm not here.



You are an enigma then... a figment of our imagination!! :)
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:53:03 AM
It's well past time for nuclear science to catch up to computer science.

We've gone from computers that filled large rooms to microchips no larger than the head of a pin.  So why haven't we developed small nuclear cells for running cars?

Because (ahem)...of the same reason those last-forever tires were bought and filed away....it doesn't suit the purposes of the folks whose livelihoods depend upon maintaining the consumptive status quo.

During the summer I often walked to work. However, during the school year, that is bit more of a dangerous proposition since I work until midnight, so I drive for personal safety then. I do try and walk as much as possible. Exercise is is good and I have lost over 15 lbs and have 15 more to go. I do try and follow the rule of keeping my car parked at least once a week during the winter. I have learned to put my errands on days I drive, etc. It may not be a lot but it is something.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Jrand73 on September 11, 2006, 11:58:27 AM
Nice new avatars for DRs TOMovOZ & TPUNK.

What a great find at the book dealers....MR BK...and what a lovely Kuhlman book.  Were her books privately published or were they marketed by a BIG house?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Jrand73 on September 11, 2006, 11:59:15 AM
Today I received GOJIRA the new 2-disk set and BRAINIAC....if you recognize the title, I need say no more...if you don't, I could NEVER explain it.  
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Jrand73 on September 11, 2006, 11:59:35 AM
High dudgeon?  I thought the dudgeon was always in the basement.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 12:03:33 PM
That is High dungeon :)  A good place for baddies!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Jrand73 on September 11, 2006, 12:04:39 PM
Hmmmm.....I was working at my office at the Indiana Department of Labor.  We were on Central Time then, so reports started coming in around 8 am....

I remembered the reading about the small plane that crashed into the Empire State Building in the 1940's...and thought that is what must have happened....  Then things got worse.  Someone pushed a television set into an office, and we watched.  They also sent us home around 1 pm.  I had to drive past the airport to get home, and I was a little worried.

It was a terrible day....and like DR MATTH and DR CP ... I really am not interested in watching any "docudramas" or "remembrances" of the events.  Being there was BAD enough.

We were also in the middle of a two-week run of THE ODD COUPLE.  I was playing Felix.  We had a scheduled pick up rehearsal that night, that I went to.  Some cast members were missing.  We had a brief "executive committee" meeting, and decided the show would go on Wed-Sat as scheduled.

But those were very difficult shows to do....but the audiences all said..."Thanks....we need to get back to as normal as possible..."  As if we ever could.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Jrand73 on September 11, 2006, 12:05:16 PM
Jacques Tati....not my cuppa.....
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Jennifer on September 11, 2006, 12:07:20 PM
For big brother fans, a letter from janelle's mother about what it's like to be an allstar's mother:

http://www.hamsterwatch.com/bb7/MotherofanAllStar.shtml
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Jrand73 on September 11, 2006, 12:23:03 PM
DR CILLA LIZ - check your garment pockets and the bottoms of drawers.  I think the necklaces are someplace you have already looked.  Look again.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 12:42:27 PM
Look in the box on your dresser that you typically do not put jewelry in. It has sort of a floral like design....
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 12:43:14 PM
if it is not there, look in the bathroom in a small dish in your linen closet.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 12:46:04 PM
You placed it in an unusual location or box becuase the normal boxed was packed when you moved and you placed in another small box for safe keeping.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 12:48:17 PM
THey are near something flowery like..
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 12:52:02 PM
So why haven't we developed small nuclear cells for running cars?

Because (ahem)...of the same reason those last-forever tires were bought and filed away....it doesn't suit the purposes of the folks whose livelihoods depend upon maintaining the consumptive status quo.

No one has yet seriously proposed a nucear energy source for running automobiles. Tech development takesd place where the research money is, and here is where it is going:

•   Biodiesel
•   Combustion
•   Diesel Engine
•   Electric Vehicles
•   Ethanol
•   Fuel Cells Hybrid Electric Vehicles
•   Hydrogen
•   Liquefied Petroleum Gas
•   Natural Gas

Both Greenpeace and the Administration favoring the building of more nuclear power plants to off-load our dependence on oil.

Legislation has been enacted to fund both nuclear power plant efforts and the FreedomCar initiative (fuel cell technology).

der Brucer

PS There are more folks whose livelihood would be enhanced by new techology than there are oil companies who might lose; and those like Hallibuton and Bechtel have current clout.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: elmore3003 on September 11, 2006, 12:56:24 PM

Amidst the dumbfounded shock and horror, I admit two ugly and cynical thoughts crept into my mind. The first was a fleeting moment of conspiracy paranoia that the Republican Administration was behind this somehow, trying to prop up a flailing and failing presidency with some sort of tragedy.  I quickly dismissed this idea as being too ghastly for even the worst of their bunch.  


There are days I still believe this one!  I put nothing past the current vice president and his men.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: elmore3003 on September 11, 2006, 01:01:27 PM
Thoughts for today from  Dave Barry (http://blogs.herald.com/dave_barrys_blog/2006/09/today.html) (written five years ago)der Brucer

Thank you, DR Der Brucer!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 11, 2006, 01:24:50 PM
So, I'm flipping through channels looking for an interesting informercial, and I recognize Matt Ashford on NBC - Days of Our Lives. I thought he was fired -- or drove off a cliff or something. What gives?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 01:29:53 PM
A quick lunch today so I was able to see one REALLY long movie. First, though, I finished HOW TO SUCCEED IN BUSINESS which I had begun last night. An OK filming of a great Broadway show. I wish some of the numbers from the original hadn't been dropped, but at least United Artists did better by its score than they did with FORUM's score.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 01:33:12 PM
So, I'm flipping through channels looking for an interesting informercial, and I recognize Matt Ashford on NBC - Days of Our Lives. I thought he was fired -- or drove off a cliff or something. What gives?

DR Dakota Celt explained it earlier, but the long and short is that soaps are filmed many weeks in advance, and though he's no longer employed, the last shows he filmed are still airing. I think she said his last day is the 21st.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 11, 2006, 01:33:58 PM
Thanks, Matt H.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 01:34:28 PM
I next put in ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE. This is probably the Bond movie I've watched the least. I think the middle section really droops in interest and excitement. Still, I hadn't watched it in years and thought it was about time I did so.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 01:36:06 PM
I put in a DVD-RAM I made of WILL & GRACE episodes from Season 7. I had already watched three on this disc last week, but before I could actually get the episode started, the doorbell rang, and a friend dropped in for a visit.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 01:36:13 PM
Back from lunch....veal piccata with steamed/wilted baby spinach and herbed rice.  Most scrumdiddlyuptious!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 01:37:01 PM
And did I mention my Friday dinner of rack of lamb...i.e, how wonderful it was.

I'm still on Cloud 9 over THAT repast!


:D
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 01:37:46 PM
I see that the President doesn't speak until 9 p.m. (EDT), so thanks caused some fancy shifting and preemption of tonight's prime time line-up. VANISHED is supposedly starting at 9:10. But I'm not sure exactly when anything else I want to watch is starting.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 01:39:35 PM
Hie thee hence, dudgeon!

I haven't the energy for thee!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 01:40:43 PM
Gadzooks and forsooth:

As thou can see, we've departed page three!

I now thee implore, contribute to page four!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 11, 2006, 01:45:16 PM
Five years ago, I was living with my sister and niece (in the house where I'm living alone...I eventually got my own apartment, my sister built a new house for herself and daughter and I moved back into that house, where I am now living, but not for long).  All I remember is very early in the morning, around 6:30 or so, my sister yelling quite loudly, "OH MY GOD!" over and over.  I very quickly woke up and went out to the living room to see what was going on and she had the TV on.  She filled me in on what had happened up to that point and we just watched the TV until we both had to go to work.  People at work were listening to radios and reading Internet news all day and all week.  Being so far away from New York, things got back to normal fairly quickly.  

My then-boyfriend was terribly affected by everything.  I don't know if it's because he wasn't born here (he's from Pakistan) or if he knew many people who lived there or what, but for more than a year, every time he saw a picture of the WTC, he would tear up and literally feel for the people who lost their lives and for those who lost friends or family.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 11, 2006, 01:46:11 PM
I don't know what he's doing today, but if he's in town (he lives in Seattle and his job takes him out of town every other week), he'll definitely be at some memorial.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 01:46:17 PM
DR CILLA LIZ - check your garment pockets and the bottoms of drawers.

Shouldn't discussion of checking her drawers be taken off line?

der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 01:57:42 PM
DR CILLA LIZ - check your garment pockets and the bottoms of drawers.  I think the necklaces are someplace you have already looked.  Look again.

Since I have looked everywhere, almost, it wouldn't be a stretch to say I've already looked there, lol.  I'm going on a treasure hunt tonight...it just may be the way to get everything unpacked once and for all!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 02:03:45 PM
I just had a very contentious hearing where I was going after an ATF agent - you know this one is lying when he moves his lips - anyway I walked out of the federal building and the bagpipes were playing.  I'm sure it was a memorial for September 11, but I couldn't see  the piper anywhere.  It was really interesting to just hear the music echo through the streets as everyone in sight was just going about their business.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 02:05:01 PM
Dakota,  actually the place I think I may find them is near something flowery....lol, if your esp is on target I'll let you know
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 02:06:47 PM
I just had a very contentious hearing where I was going after an ATF agent -

Might the "mood of the day" make the jurors more sympathetic to an officer? (Was the agent in a uniform?)

der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 02:07:48 PM
I am very tired and have a headache.  I was not at all looking forward to that hearing, but it is over.  It was one of those making a point hearings, not one where I really stood a chance of winning.  I'd like to leave now, but I'm about the only one here, so that's not going to happen.

Rant for today is that we had one person with stomach flu and another with a serious sinus problem and they both felt obligated to come to work and spread germs.  Of course they are both gone now, but there oughta be a law....
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Danise on September 11, 2006, 02:11:05 PM
Hi folks.  I tried to sign on during my lunch but it is almost impossible to get a signal in our building.

No one even mentioned that it was 9/11 or anything about it which suprised me.  It was on my mind all day and I peeked at the CNN website more then once.

I just remember being at work when the word went around that a plane had hit the WTC.  Not knowing how far the airports were from the city (having never been there at the time) I thought it was an accident.  Then the 2nd plane hit.  

It was a very scary day.  I remember they said whoever wanted to go home could but that there was no reason to believe that anything would happen to us.  I just kept thinking about MacDill AFB--which really isn't that far from where I work as the crow flys.  

I think I've told you all about how we can see Airforce 1 when it lands at the base.

Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 02:12:22 PM
I think that Mr. Body was strangled by CillaLiz's necklace, in the Music Conservatory, by Jose.
(We all know everything is Jose's fault!)

der Brucer

PS The necklace is hidden in the Theremin!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 02:13:49 PM
Might the "mood of the day" make the jurors more sympathetic to an officer? (Was the agent in a uniform?)

der Brucer

No jury.  He was mad at me for not "getting a long and making his job easier" so he told my client that he had a lousy lawyer and other words to that effect trying to make things difficult for the attorney client relationship. (A big no no)  He lied about what he said to me and he lied about what he said to my boss, so I have no reason to believe that he wasn't lying when he denied having any discussion with my client. I won't go into all the evidence that was presented to show the conversation did take place, but I had evidence.  The hearing was about his misconduct. I won't win it, but he knows I will drag him in front of the court any time he tries something like this.  

Law enforcement are not allowed to wear uniforms when they testify in court here.  The judge thinks it unduly adds to their credibility.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 02:15:54 PM
Of course they are both gone now, but there oughta be a law....

Well, didn't you take Legislation Drafting 101!

der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 02:21:01 PM
On the infect your friends and neighbors issue:

An exhortation from the Grandlads Principal:

Quote
One area that has been an on-going weakness at SES is our "average daily attendance." Last year we were required to record a 94% "average daily attendance." SES finished the year at 94.3%, a slight increase over 2005 but still very close to our attendance being considered unsatisfactory. We are asking that you help us by sending your child to school every day.

An of course, having reached 94.3%, the Federal Law requires them to improve next year!

Parents - send that sick youngun' to school!

(If I were a school administrator I would apply the tactics I learned in the militrary - keep a close track of attendence, and if there is a chance of going over 94.4, encourage kids to stay home - big improvement only sets the stage for bigger demands.)

der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 02:29:33 PM
Off to clean the dining room.

WBBL.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 02:31:08 PM
I think that Mr. Body was strangled by CillaLiz's necklace, in the Music Conservatory, by Jose.
(We all know everything is Jose's fault!)

der Brucer

PS The necklace is hidden in the Theremin!

Oh der Brucer....get a Clue.... :)
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 02:33:51 PM
Rant for today is that we had one person with stomach flu and another with a serious sinus problem and they both felt obligated to come to work and spread germs.  Of course they are both gone now, but there oughta be a law....

I don't know the particular circumstance regulating sick leave where you are, but where I am, we earn 13 sick days a year.

Take more than two, however, and you're on a list of "abusers" (unofficial name of list, of curse).  What precludes many folks from staying home when they're at their most contagious is the requirement many so-called managers impose that you bring a doctor's note if you deign to miss a day of work for being "sick."

That is not a requirement from the County, of course...just little despots here and there who decide what they will or will not allow their employees to decide for themselves.

I suspect many folks come to work ill and very contagious to preclude the needless detour to a doctor (who cannot CURE a cold and cannot make it feel better)...i.e., if you have to get up, get dressed and go somewhere, it's far better to go to work and be an absolute nuisance to everyone else.

Sometimes, you'll be sent hom until you're better.  And then THAT becomes something you decide for yourself without a doctor's note.

:D
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 02:35:05 PM
Oh der Brucer....get a Clue.... :)

He keeps getting distracted by the flash of the candlestick.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 02:36:18 PM
Oh, joy....not.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: S. Woody White on September 11, 2006, 02:40:50 PM
Unless I can find a good infomercial -- like the plastic crown molding, that can completely transform your home in only minutes!

Does Queen Elizabeth II know about this?

Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: TPunk on September 11, 2006, 02:46:12 PM
Well, I have exceeded expectations and finished the big project in approximately 4 hours. They thought it would take a couple of days. I knew it wouldn't but I didn't think I would finish quite so soon.

Congrats on finishing your project early!!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 02:48:00 PM
TPunk, your avitar really is wonderful, nice to see your smiling face
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: TPunk on September 11, 2006, 02:50:14 PM
In September of 2001 I was living in Boulder, Colorado. DD was a senior in high school and had gone to early morning choir practice. I went for my morning walk, then turned on the little TV in the kitchen while I made coffee. That's when I saw what was happening.
I stood in that spot watching that little TV, not moving, not sitting down, for probably two hours.
Had to resist the impulse to go to the school - which was minutes from our home - and pick up DD to bring her home. I knew this was totally unnecessary, but logic had nothing to do with what I was feeling.

As mentioned a few days ago, tonight I'm going to see a staged reading of ELEGIES with Malcolm Gets, Liz Callaway, Randy Graff, Amick Byram and Daniel Tatar. The perfect thing to do this evening, as far as I'm concerned.

ELEGIES is the perfect show for tonight, much better than the "news coverage with dramatic headlines" that no doubt will be showing on tv.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Jennifer on September 11, 2006, 02:50:17 PM
The good thing here (re: the president talking) is that i doubt he will interupt the canadian feeds. So while shows like prison break and vanished are on fox. They are also on global at the same time.

And happily tonight is the season premiere for us at 10pm of the closer.

And the second to last canadian idol.

So how many here will watch survivor (this thurs) and amazing race (next sunday). Thankfully that show is on a canadian station too. Because i think waiting till after 60 minutes (when there is football) could be a huge pain.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: S. Woody White on September 11, 2006, 02:53:12 PM
I'm not here.


Ron Pulliam, the anti-Carlotta!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Tomovoz on September 11, 2006, 02:57:03 PM
High dudgeon?  I thought the dudgeon was always in the basement.
It's a Rapunzel thing.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: TPunk on September 11, 2006, 02:59:43 PM
TPunk, your avitar really is wonderful, nice to see your smiling face

Why thank you.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matthew on September 11, 2006, 03:04:03 PM
I can remember just waking up and the radio next to the bed was on.  It took me a while to be coherent as to what was going and the extent of the seriousness.  I went to work, and it was the strangest day.  It was tech week for a production of Perosnals that I was MDing and the director at the time was a friend of the company that lived iin NYC.  It was a tough week, but the show went on.  
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 03:06:46 PM
Why thank you.


You look like you've just accepted a medal for figure skating.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 03:07:21 PM
Ron Pulliam, the anti-Carlotta!


LOL!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 03:07:39 PM
Sakes alive.

It's page five!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 03:12:19 PM
Where was I when I first heard of the terrorist attacks?

I was on an elevator here at work with a co-worker and a third person....who made a shocking comment as the doors opened on his floor.  When he saw how  confused we were, he held the doors and told us what had happened.  It was about 8:15 a.m. pdt here...well after the buildings had collapsed.

It was a lot to take in....and at the time, there was still concern that other planes might be enroute to other targets.

The president was flying (and catching flak from Peter Jennings for being airborne for so long while the nation reeled in anguish).

Ah, yes...I remember it well.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: TPunk on September 11, 2006, 03:13:25 PM
I was riding the subway on my way into the city when the first plane hit.  I got to work completely oblivious until the mailclerk came by and told me to look out the window (we could see a lot of smoke from the 38th floor) and turn on the tv.  A coworker called from downstairs and told me that they were evacuating the building and weren't letting anyone in.  I called Tom before leaving and we made plans to meet across town at his office.  I met up with my co-worker and we began to walk across town checking out tv monitors as we went.  I can't remember if this was on the way to meet Tom or with him on our way back across town, but as we peered downtown while crossing the street we saw a huge explosion which I later realized was the second tower collapsing.  My friend and co-worker decided to make her way to penn station to see if she could get home to Long Island.  Tom and I found our way onto a bus that was heading uptown.  We rode on it from 42nd to about 100th street.  The bus was completely packed and totally silent.  It was a truly eerie experience and actually somewhat calming.  We got off the bus and walked the remaining 90 or so blocks home to my apartment.  Tom was due to move in about 2 weeks later.  When we got home Tom watched a lot of news coverage and cried.  I tried my best to comfort him but stayed away from watching anything myself.  We ate a lot of brownie sundaes.  The only good thing about that day was the phone calls we got from around the country from our family and friends to make sure that we were okay.  We were both fortunate not to have lost anyone close to us.

Two days later I went back to work but left a few hours later after the building was again evacuated.  Apparently there had been a lot of bomb threats called in to highrises in midtown- the Viacom building was considered a target.  I like a lot of other New Yorkers felt very motivated to volunteer, to do something.  I called to donate blood but was told they were overwhelmed and would call back in a month or so.  That friday I walked by the Hard Rock Cafe and saw that they had closed the restaurant and were instead making hundreds of sandwiches to bring downtown for the rescue workers.  I worked for a few hours but then had to clear out to make room for dozens of new volunteers.

It took the city a long time to recover, if it ever really did.  I was surprised not to hear any mention of it today when I was at the Jewish Board, a social service agency, all day for orientation.  I will not be watching any of the tv programs marking the anniversary.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: TPunk on September 11, 2006, 03:14:13 PM
You look like you've just accepted a medal for figure skating.

Did I mention that our high school production was actually Carousel on Ice?  ;D
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 03:16:20 PM
Did I mention that our high school production was actually Carousel on Ice?  ;D


If you did, I missed it.

Very funny!

:D
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: TPunk on September 11, 2006, 03:17:26 PM
With regard to the Alan Jackson song, funny that it should be posted, as Rodzinski and I were just discussing it the other day.  I can appreciate the emotion behind it, but have a huge problem with the lyric about not being able to tell the difference between Iran and Iraq- I think there are a lot of folks who don't bother to make the distinction (some of them in key positions of power) but it's an important one.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ron Pulliam on September 11, 2006, 03:19:46 PM
I will not be watching any of the tv programs marking the anniversary.

Nor will I.  It's much too soon to go though all that again.

And much of what is happening...IMO...is politically motivated...to remind of us all of the devastation and HOW LIKELY IT IS WE WILL AGAIN BE ATTACKED.

That's like raising the terrorist level one step higher to deflect attention from some Bush administration snafu/foulup/mistake.

Now that it's an election year, it's time to remind everyone how UNPREPARED we remain and how important it is to STAY THE COURSE of the current incompetence level.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 03:44:43 PM
So, I'm flipping through channels looking for an interesting informercial, and I recognize Matt Ashford on NBC - Days of Our Lives. I thought he was fired -- or drove off a cliff or something. What gives?

Here is the lowdown...

Matt was let go when Missy's contract was up August 18. She moved to Tennessee. The infinite idiots in charge cannot see Jack alone as an entity but as only part of a couple.  Stephen Nichols, who has a blog seems convinced that Matt will be back. [Not holding my breath on this one, Days has burned the viewers and fans one too many times.]

Yes, Jack did go off the bridge in NOvember and then they brought him back from the dead---again! AFter they they sidelined him again along with Missy. The writer at that time was James E. REilly and to what we can see, did not like Matt. Then May came around and stories started flying fast and furious taht REilly was out. AS of the middle of June, Reilly was out and HOgan Scheffer was hired. However until Hogie took over in August, Beth Milstein was the interim writer.  With the news of Hogie comnig on we had hopes that despite Missy leaving that Hogie would keep Matt.  It was Corday's decision to fire Matt and the only fan favorite that was fired.

A soap often films episodes up to three weeks in advance to allow for editing and distribution. Matt's last taping date was August 18, thus making his last air date on September 21. According to the Canadian listings he should be on at least two more times this week and probably two or three times next week.  Many of the fans on Matt's board will probably see the last eppy on the 20th as we get the lowdown from the Canadians viewers.

Many viewers are angry as heck about Matt being let go and are disgusted beyond belief. Many will quit watching Days as of the 21st for the sick and tired of seeing Matt being used and kicked by DAys. His fans support him, but no longer the show. Sad really, many wanted to see a story develop between Matt's character Jack and STephen Nichols' character, Steve Johnson. Their characters are brothers and man the stories that could have been mined from that relationship.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 03:51:39 PM
I know being fired is part of the nature of the beast but constantly picking on one actor gets a bit old and the fans can only take so much. I no longer have respect for Days of our Lives in its present state.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 03:59:24 PM
Another thing that irritates many viewers and not only Matt's fans is that Matt's name has not been listed in the credits for over a year. IMHO, that is a kick in the teeth to any actor.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 04:16:13 PM
My feelings and those of other fans are not of anger at Matt but of support. WE are disgusted with TPTB and others associated with Days. Rumour has that Hogan wanted Matt but Corday overruled him.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: jhvw on September 11, 2006, 04:27:25 PM
Good evening everyone, just thought I'd pop in and say hello. Haven't had time to go back and read through the post but I'm sure I'll get some freetime later. Other than that it was quite the weekend, charles bukowski style. I'm slowly recovering today and getting back to my normal self. Crazyness in the ozarks.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: MBarnum on September 11, 2006, 04:31:49 PM
TPunk, how was your vacation? Hope you had a relaxing time.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 04:33:12 PM
I apologize for being so long winded... Sorry...
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: TPunk on September 11, 2006, 04:39:29 PM
TPunk, how was your vacation? Hope you had a relaxing time.

Vacation was great, a mix of relaxation by the pool, shopping and sunshine.  I'm glad I went!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: TCB on September 11, 2006, 04:47:21 PM
And the word of the day is: HEREDITAMENT!


Isn't that someone who is born with one of each?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 04:52:01 PM
Crazyness in the ozarks.

It isn't it genetic?

der brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 11, 2006, 04:57:27 PM
Thanks, DakotaCelt. Sometimes I would leave the tv on while I puttered around the house, and I never saw Matt. Then when I didn't expect it at all, I saw him.

I wondered if maybe they were showing whatever was on five years ago -- the shows that were on and their being interrupted with newcasts. Or something like that.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: bk on September 11, 2006, 04:57:39 PM
I'm back from a really long session with Mr. Geissman.  Helping work on Cissy's book was not part of my plans for this week, and it has really put me behind - but Grant is comfortable with me doing it, and knows that my eye is really good about style issues (many style issues involved here).  So, I was there from noon till four-fifteen.  Now I must do some writing, some Xeroxing and some catching up.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 04:57:45 PM
HOO AND RAY!!!! I found them! I found them! I found them!!!

First I looked in the place I thought they would be...no luck, but I did find my wedding ring...didn't even know it was missing, lol. It fits like a pinkie ring now.  So I kept looking.  In the very back of my closet I found my big wild colored cat bag and what did I find inside.....jewelry!  Both of the missing necklaces plus a bunch of costume jewelry that I have also been looking for, but didn't really care if it was missing.  I vaguely remember putting it back there so it would be safe and out of the way when everything was moved in. It was out of the way all right.

So, now that I found my necklaces...my mother wants to know if anyone knows where her emerald ring is...she can't find it anywhere.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 11, 2006, 05:02:39 PM
Congrats on the finding of the jewelry!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 11, 2006, 05:03:32 PM
I apologize for being so long winded... Sorry...

DakotaCelt, you should know by now that you NEVER have to apologize "for being so long winded"...ever! ;) Post away without apologies! ;D
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 05:10:11 PM
Congrats on the finding of the jewelry!

Thanks George, I'm very relieved and pleased
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 05:11:05 PM
Plus I received a wonderful CD in the mail today from a place called Kritzerland.   That was quick!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 11, 2006, 05:24:24 PM
Plus I received a wonderful CD in the mail today from a place called Kritzerland.   That was quick!

Ooo!!  I hope I get mine today, too! :D

Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Jrand73 on September 11, 2006, 05:35:35 PM
Great news about the necklaces, DR CILLALIZ!  Cat bag!  To foil the Cat Burglars no doubt.

Again I would say - check pockets for the emerald ring.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Jrand73 on September 11, 2006, 05:36:21 PM
I have SEVEN SAMARAI on vhs.....and DR MBARNUM sent me one of the Trilogy of Samarai films starring Mr Mifune....so I bought THAT set on VHS for a low price.....very good films....in COLOR!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Jrand73 on September 11, 2006, 05:36:38 PM
No Sondheim in Indiana as yet.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ben on September 11, 2006, 05:57:35 PM
No Sondheim in New York either but it has to come through my mail room. I do get to see the mail holders before they go up to the 4th floor so it may be in the box tomorrow. I hope so!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
Great news about the necklaces, DR CILLALIZ!  Cat bag!  To foil the Cat Burglars no doubt.

Again I would say - check pockets for the emerald ring.

Thanks JRand, I'll pass this on to mom :)
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 06:00:41 PM
Page 6 ring around the rosie dance!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 06:39:36 PM
Ok, we don't have to do Ring around the Rosie....how about a waltz?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 06:40:23 PM
TPunk, how did orientation go?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 11, 2006, 07:07:02 PM
Cillaliz, you have a new avatar!  It's very nice! ;D
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 07:09:01 PM
Cillaliz, you have a new avatar!  It's very nice! ;D

Thanks.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: elmore3003 on September 11, 2006, 07:26:01 PM
No Sondheim in New York either but it has to come through my mail room. I do get to see the mail holders before they go up to the 4th floor so it may be in the box tomorrow. I hope so!
No Sondheim for me either!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: elmore3003 on September 11, 2006, 07:26:28 PM
Thanks JRand, I'll pass this on to mom :)

Ohmigod, a new avitar!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: vixmom on September 11, 2006, 07:38:35 PM
Hello my friends.

Five years ago I was conducting a 9 AM closing at our satellite office (actually we just rented the use of a conference room at another law firm).  I had been listening to a book on tape on my drive over and when I arrived at the office all of the personnel were in a back room.  

Assuming they were in a staff meeting I quietly went to the back conference room and set up for the closing... I found it odd that everyone was late... and they all arrived, both lawyers, the title closer, the buyers and sellers at exactly the same time, around 9:30... they all wandered in looking a little shell shocked and I made some bad joke about buying a new house was supposed to be a happy occasion when one of them looked at me oddly and said "You don't know, do you?"

"Know what?"

And he went on to explain about the 2 planes hitting the WTC.... all the blood must have drained out of my face because he suddenly reached out to steady me....

all I could think of was that my brother was there....I had no idea what floor he was on but he was there and he was one of those early birds who would get into the office before 7...

everyone decided that since we were all there they would go ahead and close the loan... but one of the attorney's whose sister worked at the towers and I spent a good deal of time trying to call people to ascertain the safetly of our loved ones.

I manged to get Vixdad on his office phone he worked down at 8th Avenue and 14th street at the time and had a window that looked out directly on the unfolding events much to his horror  He could clearly see the people jumping to escape the flames... we had only been there 12 days earlier with his cousins and great aunt who were visiting from England.. unfortunately we were not able to go up to the observation deck as they had had a bomb scare and had closed everything down.....

I finally was able to discover that my brother had never made it to the WTC that day... he had to go to his midtown office first to pick up some paperwork and then had been delayed by a phone call, the first plane hit before he was able to set out and he was stopped just as he was running out the door by a secretary who called him back to tell him what had happend.


The next day we found out that my cousin John who lives in Virginia,  had a ticket for the flight that crashed into  the Pentagon.  The business meeting he was flying to was cancelled the night of the 10th.

My family was very lucky.  My town however now has several streets named after some of the 15 residents we lost, amongst them two brothers, both  in their 20's, one a fireman the other a cop...

One of the Vixter's classmates lost her grandfather, Fire Chief Raymond Downey, to whom the street on which I live and the Post Office are now dedicated.


Neither Vixdad nor I watched any television for the next week, nor did we read the papers... Vixdad had a hard enough time with everything he had witnessed first hand and didn't need to watch the news reports.


About 2 weeks later I had to go into NYC to conduct a closing....when I walked into Penn Station the walls were plastered with pictures smiling people, young parents with children, wedding pictures, grandparents, graduation pictures... the faces of all those lost and the the desperate pleas of their loved ones... "if you have any information please call....."

I stood there staring , the tears rolling down my face

the stupidity and cruelty of it all.....


Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: TPunk on September 11, 2006, 07:42:45 PM
TPunk, how did orientation go?

It was pretty basic.  Actually kind of odd to be on the other side of things after having conducted so many employee orientations myself.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: TPunk on September 11, 2006, 07:44:42 PM
I like your new avatar Cillaliz!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: vixmom on September 11, 2006, 07:44:49 PM
Good night my friends.  God bless you all.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: FJL on September 11, 2006, 07:48:11 PM
I remember that the day after 9/11/01, the IRS had not yet decided that it was going to put off the Sept. 15th corporate deadline, so I was basically summoned in to the office.  People in my building saw me in the elevator in my jacket and tie clearly headed for the office and one of my neighbors asked, how can you go to work today, are you that essential at your office.  It did feel weird going to work on that next day, 9/12/01.  
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: FJL on September 11, 2006, 07:49:45 PM
I haven't gotten the Sondheim CD yet, either.  
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: FJL on September 11, 2006, 07:52:58 PM
BK - Have you checked your AOL email since this morning?  

Important :) question about dining during your NYC trip and other related stuff.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ginny on September 11, 2006, 07:54:30 PM
Lovely new avatars, DRs TPunk and Cillaliz!

And congratulations, Cilla, on finding the necklaces.  I was looking forward to helping you pick out 3 new ones at Tiffany's  ;)

The tour of the elementary school was very interesting.  We met first in the library/media center, which, to my librarian eyes, is 'way too small.

One more 9/11 memory:  I pass a fire station on my way to work and the firefighters were collecting money for a few days.  When I drove up to put some money into the boot held out by a firefighter who looked about 12 years old, he told me to be careful.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Ginny on September 11, 2006, 07:55:21 PM
No Sondheim here in Ohio today, either.  Maybe tomorrow...
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 08:27:42 PM
What a crazy, mixed-up night of TV due to the Presidential address.

I started with more WILL & GRACE episodes from Season 7 including the one with Kristin Davis as Vince's "Grace."

Overall, the shows of Season 7 weren't especially funny and the writers began making Will as shrill and selfish as Grace. Very unattractive.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 08:28:39 PM
Nice new avatar, DR Cillaliz.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 08:29:58 PM
Next came a LAW & ORDER repeat on TNT-HD. This one featured Jerry Orbach with Jesse Martin, and seeing him again reminded me how much LAW & ORDER misses his presence these days.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 08:31:30 PM
VANISHED came on at 9:20, and I had the DVR record it for viewing tomorrow along with MEDIUM.

I watched the season finale of CSI: MIAMI when the snitch in the lab was revealed and some surprising events happened that should set the show up for another explosive (if overdone) year.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 08:40:57 PM
Coming soon:

(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/palemale-store_1911_19762643)

der Brucer

Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Matt H. on September 11, 2006, 08:44:03 PM
Heading off to bed now.

Good night!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 08:46:22 PM
Have any of the denizens of NYC heard of  Pale Male (http://palemale-store.stores.yahoo.net/palemalesfans.html)?

Quote
How To Impress Birds In Central Park

Ever since a red-tailed hawk named Pale Male made his home on a cornice above the 12th floor of an apartment building on Fifth Avenue at 74th Street in 1998, bird watchers have been making the pilgrimage to the toy-boat pond across the street in Central Park. On any given clement day, you’re bound to see a handful of bird watchers poised on benches, or hanging out in the shade of a tree, peering through their binoculars or telescopes, following the movements of Pale Male, his mate and their brood.

While most of Pale Male’s followers would probably be happy to share their equipment with curious passers-by, the crowds invariably flock to Lincoln Karim. Mr. Karim is known to have the largest telescope in Central Park—a 350-pound, 12-inch Meade LX200 telescope, which stands over six feet high, has a 3,000-mm. focal length and can be used to view such distant lands as Neptune (2.8 billion miles away), the Orion Nebula or the double cluster in the Pleiades.

Several times a week, the 40-year-old Trinidad-born Mr. Karim packs his Meade and an additional 150 pounds of equipment onto his motorized trolley cart, squeezes out his West 55th Street apartment building and heads to the toy-boat pond, where he sets up shop for the afternoon. "It is by no means drudgery," Mr. Karim said. "I consider it a form of exercise." He parks his cart along the granite edge of the pond facing the nest, unfolds the Meade, aligns his portable staircase, positions it under the sight, and then sits back and waits for the action.

The site has some of the most amazing pictures of the Upper West Side I've ever seen - and great pictures of the local Hawks:

(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/palemale-store_1911_24522719)

der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: bk on September 11, 2006, 08:48:15 PM
FJL - checked and responded.
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Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 08:59:15 PM
Ohmigod, a new avitar!

Is that a good ohmigod or a bad ohmigod? :)
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Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 09:01:20 PM
I like your new avatar Cillaliz!

Thank you,
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Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 09:02:23 PM
Nice new avatar, DR Cillaliz.

Thanks Matt
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Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 09:03:03 PM
Coming soon:

(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/palemale-store_1911_19762643)

der Brucer



Beautiful Photo, der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: Cillaliz on September 11, 2006, 09:07:23 PM
Time to get some sleep. It was a long day, but I am happy...I have my necklaces....Ginny, not sure if I'll get a necklace this time, but I'll probably find a trinket of some sort...it's becoming a tradition
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: TCB on September 11, 2006, 09:08:41 PM
My alarm went off at about two minutes to six that morning.  I started work later in those days.  The disc jockey on the morning show I listened to was a well-known Seattle personality and comedian.  However, that morning, the first thing I heard him say in a very hushed and serious tone was, "My friends, the unthinkable has just occured.  An airplane has crashed into the World Trade Center."

I jumped out of bed and ran into the living room and turned on the television.  I was still trying to take in the whole situation when suddenly I thought they we rerunning footage of the plane hitting the tower.  As I watched this plane crashing into the tower, I realized that wasn't previous footage; because the other tower was already in flames.

After almost a half of an hour of watching the events unfold on TV, I realized that I had been standing there in the middle of the living room, only about two feet away from my recliner.  But, I couldn't make myself sit down; I just stood there looking at the screen.  When I realized that I was about to be late for work, I picked up the phone and called one of  my co-workers who came in to work earlier than I.  I was talking to him, trying to explain all the things I was seeing on the television when the first tower started to collapse.

I eventually went to work, and in the evening I went to the dress rehearsal of THE MAN WHO CAME TO DINNER, which was scheduled to open on Thursday evening.  it was a tough decision, but we all voted to go ahead and open on time.  Like Jrand56 said, it was tough to do the show that weekend, but those who came to see it all said how grateful they were for the laughter.  

If I close my eyes, I can still the people jumping or falling from the towers that morning.  That is still my worst memory of that day.  I had been to Windows on the World a number of times, as well as the observation deck in the other tower, so I knew how incredibly high those buildings were.  When I lived in New Jersey, the first thing I saw from my bedroom window each morning was The World Trade Center.  And, at night, the lights in those towers were my own personal nightlights.  It is difficult to imaigne New York without them.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 09:25:25 PM
When I lived in New Jersey, the first thing I saw from my bedroom window each morning was The World Trade Center.  And, at night, the lights in those towers were my own personal nightlights.  It is difficult to imaigne New York without them.

Strange how when we are confronted with NYC city scapes in movies or TV, the WTC is so very conspicuous by its absense; and stranger yet, when older films use shots of the bowery and the imposing WTC as "establishing" shots.

der Brucer
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Post by: DERBRUCER on September 11, 2006, 09:29:15 PM
The magic hour has passed - the five year anniversary has come and gone.

All is well.

God bless us one and all.

der Brucer
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: bk on September 11, 2006, 10:56:55 PM
Where in tarnation IS everyone?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:11:39 PM
Lovely picture derBrucer....

Like the avvie Cilla! Very nice!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:13:46 PM

  When I lived in New Jersey, the first thing I saw from my bedroom window each morning was The World Trade Center.  And, at night, the lights in those towers were my own personal nightlights.  It is difficult to imaigne New York without them.


Di2teach, who posted a Deceit review here, also lives in Northern New Jersey and that was her landmark each day going to work. It was incredible sight in the early morning as the sun came up.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:14:37 PM
Strange how when we are confronted with NYC city scapes in movies or TV, the WTC is so very conspicuous by its absense; and stranger yet, when older films use shots of the bowery and the imposing WTC as "establishing" shots.

der Brucer

der Brucer, you are right, it is really eerie seeing those movies now...
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:15:48 PM
der Brucer, have you ever been to Coney Island?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:16:34 PM
I have a neat movie I may go and watch tonight, It is a copy of Stella Dallas a freind had on tape and she is loaning it to me.
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Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:17:23 PM
I may rent Casablanca from the library. Is anyone familiar with the movie, An American in Paris?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:17:50 PM
Another movie on my list is the Americanization of Emily with James Garner.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:34:15 PM
Anybody here?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:34:51 PM
I guess I have to carry on to get to 200!!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:35:58 PM
Leaves are starting to show hints of fall colour...
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:37:46 PM
Have you ever been skiing bk?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:43:58 PM
Political commercials are in full swing here and they are really beginning to annoy me!
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Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:44:46 PM
with the ubiquitous "I approve this message" at the end of each one!
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Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:58:29 PM
Has anyone ever ridden a Llama?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 11, 2006, 11:58:56 PM
Has anyone tried the dark chocolate M&M's yet?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:00:10 AM
I would like to see Sweeney Todd someday...
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Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:00:39 AM
I made it to 200!!!!

HOORAY!!!
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Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:07:35 AM
I've never ridden a llama (don't ask about my one horse-riding experience... :P it wasn't pleasant), but I LOVE the dark chocolate M&Ms!
;D
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:13:17 AM
do tell ;) -- Just teasin' George...

I love the dark chocolate M&Ms... They are great!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:13:58 AM
I enjoy horsebackriding...
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:14:29 AM
Have you ever had the dark chocolate Hershey's Kisses?  Those are even better than the M&Ms...in my humble opinion. :D
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:16:08 AM
Came across a curious obit: The woman had 8 surnames...
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:16:42 AM
Have you ever had the dark chocolate Hershey's Kisses?  Those are even better than the M&Ms...in my humble opinion. :D

Those are just evil.... err good!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:17:27 AM
Tomorrow, my sister is having the vanity in the bathroom replaced (where I'm living now, and soon to move out of).  I have to clear a path before I go to bed because I don't know what time Mr. Jackson (a friend of my parents') is coming over to swap it out.
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Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:18:00 AM
I just need to move boxes, so it won't take too long.
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Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:18:24 AM
And most of the boxes are empty, so I'm not complaining, at all. ;)
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Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:18:40 AM
And one for Mahler! :)
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Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:20:22 AM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]LAST MINUTE PAGE EIGHT DANCE!![/move]


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Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:20:28 AM
THat is good that they are empty...

When do you move into your condo?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:22:25 AM
Well, the sellers have to agree to fix the floors under both toilets (there is moisture :P) AND I have to finish the loan applications/process.  The plan is to close at the end of September or the beginning of October.  Either way, in only a few weeks!! ;D
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Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:22:50 AM
and one more last minute post!!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:23:05 AM
Unless something goes horribly wrong. :o
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:23:40 AM
Which it shouldn't.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:23:48 AM
That is great to hear George... WE expect pictures of your new abode...

Does it include a garage and storage?
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:23:55 AM
It won't...right??
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:24:15 AM
My fingers are crossed for ya...
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:24:52 AM
Knock'em dead, charm them to death!!!

NOthing but good vibes!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:24:52 AM
That is great to hear George... WE expect pictures of your new abode...

Does it include a garage and storage?

Pictures will be taken.  I've actually taken video clips with my phone!  I can take 15 second clips, but I can't post them.  

It does include a garage.  Other than my extra bedroom, that's the only storage.
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Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:25:10 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:25:28 AM
Hmmm do yiou know how to download the clips?
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Post by: George on September 12, 2006, 12:26:57 AM
I have a memory card for my phone and I was able to put them on a CD-ROM.  I don't remember what the file extension is, but you have to use Real Video or QuickTime to play them.  Either works.
Title: Re:HIGH DUDGEON
Post by: DakotaCelt on September 12, 2006, 12:27:09 AM
from your phone that is...