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Title: PLOTZING
Post by: bk on November 16, 2006, 12:37:35 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes made you plotz, and now it is time for you to post until the plotzing cows come home.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: bk on November 16, 2006, 12:39:39 AM
And the word of the day is: CANOROUS!
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2006, 12:59:46 AM
TOTD:
Great Expectations.
Cry The Beloved Country.
Crime and Punishment.

I can't remember not liking books that we were "directed" to read.  As a teacher I often read the books that the students had on their lists. (I was not an English teacher).
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2006, 01:01:14 AM
I doubt that my lessons were ever canorous!
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Post by: George on November 16, 2006, 01:02:59 AM
Topic of the Day:  I know I had to read quite a few things in high school and college, but the only one that comes to mind is "The Wizard of Earthsea" by Ursula K. Le Guin, which I remember I liked.  

On my own, I read a lot of Isaac Asimov and some Ray Bradbury and during that time I discovered Fredric Brown, who has not written anything that I've read that I haven't enjoyed. :)
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Post by: George on November 16, 2006, 01:06:04 AM
Well, I'm off to bed.  Have a good evening, Tomovoz!

;D
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2006, 01:44:05 AM
Goodnight George.
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Post by: Michael on November 16, 2006, 04:44:06 AM
Great TOD

Can't remember that far back, but the one book that does stand out for me is from college. I read Alice Through The Looking Glass in an annotaed edition and it was absolutely fascinating read. It's not just a kids' story. The main thing I learned that the story is a chess game.
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Post by: Michael on November 16, 2006, 04:48:25 AM
And..............


 to FJL's DP


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Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: elmore3003 on November 16, 2006, 05:05:10 AM
Good morning, all!  I am feeling a tad under the weather this morning, and I believe it's fallout from the humidity and the huge storm they're anticipating this evening.  I taped MEDIUM last night since I was working on Toyland edits until around 10:30, and I believe I will organize my Brain schedule, take a break and watch the video.

I''' work all afternoon on The Brain and then go back downtown around 6pm tonight.

TOD:
I liked SILAS MARNER more than I ever expected
TALE OF TWO CITIES
I had to read PARADISE LOST in college; did not enjoy it.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 05:27:46 AM
Happy Birthday Mr Skip!
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Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 05:28:22 AM
Replacing someone.....difficult....but necessary.  Time to change the posters again - eh?
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Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 05:28:54 AM
TOD:

favorite:  Lord of the Flies

NON-favorite:  David Copperfield
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Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 05:29:10 AM
Hopefully DR ELMORE has his CD today.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on November 16, 2006, 05:33:04 AM
I liked Great Expectations and the Shakespeare plays we had to read.

The toughest to slog through was THE JUNGLE by Upton Sinclair.  I don't think I ever finished it and just bluffed my way through the test on it.
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2006, 05:47:50 AM
And the word of the day is: CANOROUS!
Casey would waltz
With a strawberry blonde
And the band played the CANOROUS melodies of Offenbach.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2006, 05:53:10 AM
When American teen Michael Fay was sentenced in Singapore for vandalism, I doubt that his reaction to his punishment was CANOROUS.
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 16, 2006, 05:54:07 AM
And with that, I must get myself to work once more.
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 06:08:08 AM
Happy Happy to Skip! (Love Mr. Shayne's animation!)

Music Guy---I've had double sessions the last few days...thanks for thinking of me!

TOD:  Loved: A Separate Peace, David Copperfield, Magister Ludi
         Struggled through: As I Lay Dying, Go Down Moses

I admit I read more Cliff Notes than books. I liked reading books but not the ones they thought it was important for me to read!
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 06:12:19 AM
I have to speak about documentary filmmaking to 2 film classes at Georgia State tomorrow. They have already watched "Sacco and Vanzetti". I am positively dreading it, but a friend teaches the class so I said I would. I HATE talking in front of people...it makes me want to vomit on the ground!

BK...want to take my place? I'm sure you're an engaging speaker. Anyone taping your talk for posterity? I'd love to hear what you have to say...
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Post by: vixmom on November 16, 2006, 06:15:00 AM
Well I am afraid that DR RLP's physic number prediciting powers were not working yesterday.... ah well
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Post by: vixmom on November 16, 2006, 06:19:34 AM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]HAPPIEST OF BIRTHDAYS TO THE MUTLI-TALENTED AND CHARMING SKIP!!!!![/move]
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ginny on November 16, 2006, 06:52:50 AM
Thursday morning greetings!  I am slowly getting back into my routine after my five days off that weren't as refreshing as I'd hoped they'd be.  At least today is payday and there was some blue sky showing.

TOD - The book I was assigned in college that I didn't finish and had to bluff through the exam was Anna Karenina.  I'd always felt guilty about that, so decided a couple of summers ago to read it along with Oprah and her book club.  Got bogged down again and failed, for the second time, to finish it.  Maybe the third time will be the charm.

Also in college, I was assigned Madame Bovary, which I did read all the way through but didn't particularly like.  About 15 years later, working on a grant-funded reading program called "Books Under Fire," I read it again.  As a more mature reader, I finally "got it" and changed my opinion completely.
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Post by: FJL on November 16, 2006, 06:53:46 AM
Wow, thanks for all the great brithday wishes to Skip!  He's starting off his birthday by going to Costco with our friend Millie and with an unlimited license to spend spend spend :) but I'll show him all the wishes when he gets back.  He'll be thrilled.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: DearReaderLaura on November 16, 2006, 06:54:13 AM
Happy Birthday, Skip!
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Post by: FJL on November 16, 2006, 06:56:57 AM
The book that i'm embarrassed to admit i had trouble slogging through was THE GRAPES OF WRATH.    Those inter-chapters when we got away from the main plot made my eyes glaze over (at least they did when I was 15 yeard old), so that i had to finally give in and buy the Monarch Notes and learn about what those chapters meant that way.  
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 06:57:45 AM
I have to speak about documentary filmmaking to 2 film classes at Georgia State tomorrow. They have already watched "Sacco and Vanzetti". I am positively dreading it, but a friend teaches the class so I said I would. I HATE talking in front of people...it makes me want to vomit on the ground!

BK...want to take my place? I'm sure you're an engaging speaker. Anyone taping your talk for posterity? I'd love to hear what you have to say...


DR Edi - You will be great.  If they've seen Sacco and Vanzetti, they know how good your work is and they will be interested in anything you have to say.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 06:58:57 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SKIP!!!!!!!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: vixmom on November 16, 2006, 06:59:51 AM
During a visit to the mental asylum, a visitor asked the Director what the criterion was which defined whether or not a patient should be institutionalized.


"Well," said the Director, "we fill up a bathtub, then we offer a teaspoon, a teacup and a bucket to the patient and ask him or her to empty thebathtub."

 "Oh, I understand," said the visitor. "A normal person would use the bucket  because it's bigger than the spoon or the teacup."













"No." said the Director, "A normal person would pull the plug.  Do you want a bed near the window?"
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 07:00:11 AM
TOD - I had a college prep lit class that was all females - don't know why it just happened that way, so we read and compared Jane Eyre and The Woman's Room  that was interesting
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 07:01:17 AM
Good morning!

We had a stormy, rainy night with the wind and rain kicking up loud enough a couple of times during the night to wake me out of a sound sleep. Fortunately, no damage to the property that I could tell from a quick walkaround this morning.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 07:03:45 AM
Page Two BROTHER BEAR stampede!!!


Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 07:04:21 AM
We also read The Fountainhead, which I loved. Can't remember much more about high school -

In college I took a great lit class called Belief and Unbelief.  We read The Brothers Karamazov, which I loved, The Stranger by Camus, that I didn't really get at the time, and many others.  

I loved lit classes and generally liked everything we read.  I know there were some that I ended up buying the cliff notes to get through the exam, but I can't think of what they were right now.   Heart of Darkness was one that I just couldn't get through, I do remember that
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 07:05:41 AM
Good morning!

We had a stormy, rainy night with the wind and rain kicking up loud enough a couple of times during the night to wake me out of a sound sleep. Fortunately, no damage to the property that I could tell from a quick walkaround this morning.

I read this and thought....It was a dark and stormy night.  I was awakened several times by things going bump in the night....

seriously, glad there's no damage Matt
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 07:06:27 AM
Better get to work. It's cloudy here today, but it's supposed to clear soon....we'll see.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 07:06:43 AM
Last night, in commenting about the season premiere of MEDIUM, DR George wrote:

"Not that that matters, but it's nice to see some personal stories every once in a while, except that I didn't care how Scanlon's personal issues were depicted."


I agree. That was a wimpy way out of the situation. However, I hadn't realized until last night what a terrible actress it is playing the assistant mayor. She's easily the worst actress I've seen on a prime time series in a regular role. (I didn't pay much attention to her last season as she was in and out quickly and didn't hook up with Scanlon until late in the season.)

Wonder if she's the wife or girl friend of one of the producers because I can't honestly see how else she could have landed this high profile job as bad as she is.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 07:08:08 AM
Ahh  Moby Dick. I just couldn't get through it. It kept putting me to sleep
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Post by: MusicGuy on November 16, 2006, 07:11:20 AM

Good morning DRs one and all ( I know..... and all and one!)

DR Laura....do you know yet what your travel plans are going to be, going and returning to and from L.A. for the Dec. 8, 9, 10 weekend.  ??

Hi DR FJL.... I have you and Skip on the "breakfast list," and it is very possible that we could swing by the Sheraton Universal and give you a ride.  

And a HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Skip !!!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: MusicGuy on November 16, 2006, 07:14:13 AM

I just had a warped thought........ I wonder if, at Temple, right after the offering everyone sings the Plotzology?  I often plotz at things both big and small.  I rather enjoy it.
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Post by: PennyO on November 16, 2006, 07:26:11 AM
Happy, happy, happy birthday, dear Skip!! May the lush and lovely melodies keep pouring outa yer wonderful skull!

Hanging on for the next three weeks... two papers in yesterday, another two due today... one on Tuesday, more exams, big project due after Thanksgiving, more papers... then Finals... and then a day to breathe, and then BRAIN!!!

Just one foot in front of the other. One more step, then the next.

Books, eh? Well, I loved Julius Caesar and MacBeth. Loved Old Man and the Sea. I liked Ethan Frome all right, and Jane Eyre. Moby Dick was a trial - i think I just skimmed a lot of that one. What was that Hawthorne book??? Don't remember. Red Badge of Courage - I was so knocked out by the way it was written, more than the story.

Later I made my own reading list from the used book store: I read one Hermann Hesse novel, and then HAD to read everything else. I periodically reread some of those. And Roberston Davies - read Fifth Business, and then bought everything else. and like that...
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Post by: MusicGuy on November 16, 2006, 07:26:11 AM

TOD:

We had to read several Max Shulman (sp?) books, which I enjoyed.

I read Catcher In The Rye, which I also enjoyed very much (and wanted to date the hero!)

Then right at the end of school and over the next year, I read several of the Poe books and stories.  I was really mesmorized by "Dorian Gray" and probably re-read it 2 or 3 times.  It just created such a texture and feeling of I-don't-know-what.

Then later, I read Atlas Shrugged, and it totally blew me away.  Much of my outlook on government, personal responsibility, welfare, business and industry, was highly influenced by how my eyes opened while reading this.

There are still some very interesting parallels going on at the present....... a country that seems compelled to regulate and control way too many areas, and is driven to spend billions trying to "oversee" the rest of the planet, while much of its own infrastructure and industry sinks slowly into more disarray and lack of health.

oops.....sorry for the soapbox.

But A.S. really is a fantastic book to make the mind think.
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Post by: MusicGuy on November 16, 2006, 07:27:54 AM
Hi DR Penny...... Do you think you can join us for our HHW breakfast soiree on Saturday mid-morning (the 9th) ?  It will probably be at the DuPar's on Ventura Blvd., out in BK's area.
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Post by: PennyO on November 16, 2006, 07:28:08 AM
Yup - I agree. And then I had to read all the rest of Ayn Rand. Even the essays. Enough to turn a person into a Libertarian...
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Post by: PennyO on November 16, 2006, 07:28:53 AM
Dupar's... Maybe, if I am conscious and ambulatory, I'll try to make it.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 07:29:51 AM
Happy Birthday to DR FJL's DP Skip!!
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Post by: PennyO on November 16, 2006, 07:31:06 AM
Okay, caffeine's kicking in - back to work. Oy...
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Post by: Rodzinski on November 16, 2006, 07:31:09 AM
Heart of Darkness and a similar book, V.S. Naipaul's A Bend in the River were painful and I didn't really read them.

Grapes of Wrath was the fastest I ever read a book. I put it off until the night before the test, and found myself utterly blown away by it. Although I did skip those oddball chapters.

Some books I didn't like at the time, but now look back at with fondness like A Separate Peace and Great Gatsby.
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Post by: MusicGuy on November 16, 2006, 07:31:19 AM

It would be great fun if you could....and being C.&A. is much more fun than being E&T.  You know how the Grande Mensch can be about bitch-slaps.

And the breakfast is yummy at DuPar's!
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Post by: PennyO on November 16, 2006, 07:31:46 AM
Have a wonderful day, gang.
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Post by: Rodzinski on November 16, 2006, 07:32:24 AM
Happy SKIP-day!!
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 07:34:03 AM
I really enjoyed most of the books that were required reading. I most enjoyed THE SCARLET LETTER, THE RED BADGE OF COURAGE (which most of my classmates hated), LORD OF THE FLIES, GREAT EXPECTATIONS.

I, too, disliked MOBY DICK. I think the version we had was somewhat abridged, and it was still WAY too long. (Read Melville's earlier sea adventure books like TYPEE in college and enjoyed them very much).

Another I really did not like was THE BRIDGE OF SAN LUIS REY. In high school, all its symbolism was just beyond my comprehension. I think I might now enjoy it, but it was the wrong place, wrong time for me to read that book in 11th grade.
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Post by: MusicGuy on November 16, 2006, 07:34:11 AM

good morning DR Rodz......you are looking dashing this morning!

and now, I must away so that I can generate some gelt!
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 07:34:12 AM
TOD - I had a college prep lit class that was all females - don't know why it just happened that way, so we read and compared Jane Eyre and The Woman's Room  that was interesting

When I first read the HHW term of endearment, "Dear Reader", I immediately thought of Jane Eyre (one of my favorites):

"Reader, I married him."
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 07:35:49 AM
Another book I adored was Anne Frank's DIARY OF A YOUNG GIRL. I don't think we ever read the play version, just the book.

I taught many of my eighth graders the play during my years of teaching.
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Post by: JMK on November 16, 2006, 07:38:08 AM
Thanks, Rodzinski, for reminding me about Heart of Darkness--probably my fave HS reading assignment.  I still remember our teacher going over the allusions to Greek myths--e.g., the women knitting in the opening scene being the Fates, etc.  I also had to slog through a lot of Thomas Hardy, which was slow going, but always had an almost Agatha Christie-like payoff at the end, when you realized everyone was related somehow (i.e., Mayor of Casterbridge, etc.).

I remember how hard it was to make it through Faulkner's Intruder in the Dust and The Reivers.
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 07:40:42 AM
Boy, Moby Dick is not faring well here today.

(I'm going to leave the obvious joke for Der B.)
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Post by: Ginny on November 16, 2006, 07:41:41 AM
DR FJL - please add my Happy Birthday wishes to those you pass along to Skip!
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 07:42:08 AM
I remember how hard it was to make it through Faulkner's Intruder in the Dust and The Reivers.

See "The Reivers"---the movie. Easier to get through, and a great John Williams score. One of his best!
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 07:43:22 AM
My DVR and the hard drive on my DVD recorder (hooked up to cable) will be working overtime tonight since there are at some times four shows on I want to see at the same time. Good gosh! Looks like I'll be watching the NBC supersized shows "live" while recording other shows on different networks. What a traffic jam of quality shows!
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 07:45:33 AM
Thanks, Rodzinski, for reminding me about Heart of Darkness--probably my fave HS reading assignment.  


We had to read both HEART OF DARKNESS and THE SECRET SHARER as they were contained in the same paperback volume. I preferred the latter to the former.
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 07:47:08 AM
I think most Faulkner is hard to get through. Damn obtuse Southerners! (As opposed to obscure...as in "Jude"...another Thomas Hardy I avoided.)
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 07:48:31 AM
Page 3 dance!
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 07:51:13 AM
they will be interested in anything you have to say.

Thanks, DR Cillaliz. I will keep repeating that to myself!

I'm having breakfast with the professor, so I might be able to get some ideas churning with him.
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Post by: Ben on November 16, 2006, 08:04:03 AM
Happy Birthday to Skip

or as Benjamin Kritzer might say

Yppah Yadhtrib ot Piks  ;D
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 08:13:19 AM
I have some things to do downstairs before I start preparing lunch.

WBBL.
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Post by: FJL on November 16, 2006, 08:15:28 AM
Skip just called from Costco, and I recited some of the birthday wishes, all of which he'll read when he gets home.   You guys are wonderful!

MusicGuy - that would be great!  Is Dupar's very far from Universal City?
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Post by: bk on November 16, 2006, 08:15:50 AM
I'm up, I'm up.  I can't seem to get more than seven hours of sleep these days.

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Post by: bk on November 16, 2006, 08:17:25 AM
I would have put Skip's birthday in Ye Olde Notes if someone had reminded me or put it on our handy-dandy haineshisway.com calendar.  So, a very happy haineshisway.com birthday cheer to our very own Mr. Skip Kennon!!!

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Post by: MBarnum on November 16, 2006, 08:21:26 AM
Oh happy day to DP Skip!!

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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 08:22:39 AM
Last night, in commenting about the season premiere of MEDIUM, DR George wrote:

"Not that that matters, but it's nice to see some personal stories every once in a while, except that I didn't care how Scanlon's personal issues were depicted."


I agree. That was a wimpy way out of the situation. However, I hadn't realized until last night what a terrible actress it is playing the assistant mayor. She's easily the worst actress I've seen on a prime time series in a regular role. (I didn't pay much attention to her last season as she was in and out quickly and didn't hook up with Scanlon until late in the season.)

Wonder if she's the wife or girl friend of one of the producers because I can't honestly see how else she could have landed this high profile job as bad as she is.


How funny.  I think she's just fine.  She's exactly the person the assistant mayor is supposed to be, IMO.

Odd how we react to various actresses and actors (so-called...he-he-he..)

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Post by: elmore3003 on November 16, 2006, 08:23:57 AM
DR Ginny, I too loved MADAME BOVARY; thank God I never had to read it as a requirement.  I find I generally like novels better when I discover them for myself or through a recommendation, not through entrapment.

I just finished MEDIUM, which moved me more than I thought, especially since Alison's dead boyfriend drudged up two deceased loves from my 60s and 70s.  It was quite a well written and plotted episode.

DRvixmom, I see your unemployment is making you a fulltime poster.  Thank God!  Good to have you back.

And now, back to the Act One finale!
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Post by: MBarnum on November 16, 2006, 08:24:33 AM
I cannot think of any particular books that were required reading during my school years that I was just wild about. I was never one for fiction novels, aside from mysteries. I preferred to choose my own reading material I guess....whcih of course at that time was Famous Monsters of Filmland! LOL!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on November 16, 2006, 08:24:42 AM
Ooooh, SCARLET LETTER & BRIDGE OF SAN LUIS REY were crashing bores!
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Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 08:26:16 AM
I HATE talking in front of people...

Then don't! Sit down on the edge of the desk, invite the students into your den, and talk with them. They would much prefer you share, rather than lecture.

der Brucer

It helps to have an audience plant that can lob some softball pitches to get you over the rough spots.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 16, 2006, 08:29:10 AM
I cannot think of any particular books that were required reading during my school years that I was just wild about. I was never one for fiction novels, aside from mysteries. I preferred to choose my own reading material I guess.

DR MBarnum, I think the last required reading for you was either THE BOBSEY TWINS AT THE FARM or THE VELVETEEN RABBIT!

I also liked Thomas Hardy.  And I liked THE BRIDGE OF SAN LUIS REY.  However, Hawthorne's MARBLE FAUN was interminable and I still have nightmares about Fennimore Cooper and Melville. Thank God for Washington Irving and a sense of humor.

However, I am sooooooo not looking forward to O J  Simpson's new book.  Is that moron insane or what?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 08:33:35 AM
In high school, the reading challenges were sufficient, as I recall.  We read "Huckleberry Finn", "The Scarlet Letter", "Julius Caesar", "The Mill on the Floss" and "Tess of the "D'Urbervilles" in my 10th grade lit class.

I enjoyed them all, especially "The Mill on the Floss" (go figure).  For independent assignments, I took on "To Kill A Mockingbird" and "Cry the Beloved Country."

11th and 12th grade English, as I recall, dealt with poetry and grammar and plays.  There may have been novels (and I may be misremembering what grade I was in when I read the titles above).  I also don't recall which grade it was that introduced me to Nathaniel Hawthorne, but for "Evangeline" I am eternally grateful.

My sophomore year in college saw me in a lit class I loved.  My two favorite reads that year were "The Deputy" and "The Sound and the Fury."

As a junior, I read "The Stranger" in French (language and class...quite a challenging read, too!).

Like DR Pogue, I read all the Shakespeare there was, including the sonnets.  And in the second semester of my senior year, I took a class on the analysis of great plays which, to everyone's surprise, had a reading list of 97 plays.  How, we wondered, were we going to read and analyze that many plays in a semester?  The trick was, we would not be meeting in class (i.e., NO analysis at all in terms of discussion and being taught anything).   I managed to read only a handful as I was carrying 21 semester hours in my final semester.  I thought for sure summer school -- or a longterm deferment (due to the draft) -- was in my future.

And yet....things worked out.  There were nine of us in that examination room...all of us under extraordinary pressure, and none of us had been able to read more than a 10th of the titles.

At the end of the three-hour exam, a couple of the ladies were in tears and I was borderline.  The professor (Dr. Evil!!) entered the room and said, "I have an announcement.  I will say this one time and then all bets are off.  If you get up and walk out of this room in the next 60 seconds, I'll give you a 'C' on this exam.  Otherwise, you'll get graded on your answers."

We all made a dash for the door, his words eternally seared into my brain...and Dr. Evil roared with glee.



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Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 08:33:51 AM
Yup - I agree. And then I had to read all the rest of Ayn Rand. Even the essays. Enough to turn a person into a Libertarian...

It works, doresn't it!

der Brucer
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Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 08:38:07 AM
We also read The Fountainhead, which I loved.
...
 Heart of Darkness was one that I just couldn't get through, I do remember that

How ever can you happily plow through an uber-tome like The Fountainhead and have trouble with a short novella like Heart of Darkness? (Though I can see how you might have problems identifying with Conrad's characters.)

der Brucer
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Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 08:42:27 AM
Ahh  Moby Dick. I just couldn't get through it. It kept putting me to sleep

Certain books require skipping certain sections:

Moby Dick - skip all chapters on whaling
Atlas Shrugged - skip John Galt's speech
World According to Garp - skip the bear stuff

der Brucer (an Illustrated Classic Comics devotee)

Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 08:46:20 AM



Then later, I read Atlas Shrugged, and it totally blew me away.  Much of my outlook on government, personal responsibility, welfare, business and industry, was highly influenced by how my eyes opened while reading this.


But A.S. really is a fantastic book to make the mind think.

Then read it's intellectual companion "The Fountainhead"; because it deals more with art than industry, it should strike a friendly chord.

der Brucer
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 08:47:46 AM
It helps to have an audience plant that can lob some softball pitches to get you over the rough spots.

Thanks, Der B! You bet your aspidistra that I'll be bringing my philodendron!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 08:50:01 AM
However, I am sooooooo not looking forward to O J  Simpson's new book.  Is that moron insane or what?

I think not, or else he could have pled insanity.

Wait...there IS no Sanity Clause...
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: JMK on November 16, 2006, 08:50:22 AM
As I think I've stated to a certain JR 'round these parts, you get everything in The Fountainhead that you'll get in Atlas Shrugged, minus several hundred pages and one interminable speech by John Galt.  :)

Speaking of which, FJL--first of all, b-day wishes to Skip, but one of the ideas for a musical (actually, more of an opera) that director Llew Rhoe and I kicked around was Atlas Shrugged.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 08:56:47 AM

I just finished MEDIUM, which moved me more than I thought, especially since Alison's dead boyfriend drudged up two deceased loves from my 60s and 70s.  It was quite a well written and plotted episode.


Wow, Methuselah!  You can remember when you were in your 60s and 70s?  

Heck, I'm 58 and I can barely remember last week.





(I know, I know....rhymes with switch)

;D


Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 08:59:16 AM
As I think I've stated to a certain JR 'round these parts, you get everything in The Fountainhead that you'll get in Atlas Shrugged, minus several hundred pages and one interminable speech by John Galt.  :)


What about blue steel?
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 09:01:18 AM
der Brucer (an Illustrated Classic Comics devotee)

And I was a "Classics Illustrated" comics devotee. If I liked the comic, I would read the book. Some of them had great illustrations. This was another collection, like my Creepy and Eerie comics, that were sacrificed on one of our many moves and could now sell on Ebay!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 09:01:52 AM
Thanks, Der B! You bet your aspidistra that I'll be bringing my philodendron!


Aspidistra, eh?

Is one of your favorite words sarsaparilla?


("...sasparilly, anyone?")
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 09:05:08 AM
It's grey and cold outside today.  And my throat is itchy/scratch.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 09:06:10 AM
My evening's TV watching isn't anywhere near as ambitious as DR MattH's.

I have some recording to do, but nothing out of the ordinary.  I avoid NBC & Fox like the plague on Thursday nights!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 09:07:03 AM
Went out to an Indian restaurant for lunch yesterday.

The Chicken Tikka Masala was superb!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 09:07:33 AM
I'm feeling just a tad bit chilled right now -- I hope it's not because my cold is worsening.  And I also hope it's not because someone has walked over the plot that will one day be my grave.



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Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 09:22:27 AM
And I was a "Classics Illustrated" comics devotee.

Not since Laura Reynolds kissed Tom Lee in "Tea and Sympathy" has criticism been so softly delivered.

der Brucer
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 09:24:10 AM
Skip just called from Costco, and I recited some of the birthday wishes, all of which he'll read when he gets home.  

Groan-free Birthway Wishes to Skip!

der Brucer
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 09:29:01 AM

However, I am sooooooo not looking forward to O J  Simpson's new book.  Is that moron insane or what?

A rhetorical question I presume :)

Mental classification notwithstanding, the guy is walking around scott free, has an well-endowed unattachable pension fund, and seems to have found another way to augment his coffers, Crazy as a fox!

der Brucer

Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: bk on November 16, 2006, 09:33:31 AM
My favorite books that I had to read for school were Lord Of The Flies and Nineteen Eighty-Four, both of which I loved.  Least favorite was, I'm afraid, Silas Marner, which I couldn't get through.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: singingnymph on November 16, 2006, 09:52:42 AM
Interesting.
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19971113
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 09:55:50 AM
Thanks, Rodzinski, for reminding me about Heart of Darkness--probably my fave HS reading assignment.  I still remember our teacher going over the allusions to Greek myths--e.g., the women knitting in the opening scene being the Fates, etc.  

When I was in college I paired a reading from "Heart Of Darkness" with T.S. Eliot's "The Hollowmen" - and won many a prize in collegiate forensic competition in the "Dramatic Interpretation" category.

Quote
"One evening coming in with a candle I was startled to hear him say a little tremulously, 'I am lying here in the dark waiting for death.' The light was within a foot of his eyes. I forced myself to murmur, 'Oh, nonsense!' and stood over him as if transfixed.

"Anything approaching the change that came over his features I have never seen before, and hope never to see again. Oh, I wasn't touched. I was fascinated. It was as though a veil had been rent. I saw on that ivory face the expression of somber pride, of ruthless power, of craven terror—of an intense and hopeless despair. Did he live his life again in every detail of desire, temptation, and surrender during that supreme moment of complete knowledge? He cried in a whisper at some image, at some vision,—he cried out twice, a cry that was no more than a breath—

"'The horror! The horror!'

"I blew the candle out and left the cabin. The pilgrims were dining in the mess-room, and I took my place opposite the manager, who lifted his eyes to give me a questioning glance, which I successfully ignored. He leaned back, serene, with that peculiar smile of his sealing the unexpressed depths of his meanness. A continuous shower of small flies streamed upon the lamp, upon the cloth, upon our hands and faces. Suddenly the manager's boy put his insolent black head in the doorway, and said in a tone of scathing contempt—

"'Mistah Kurtz—he dead.'


Which is the opening line to "The Hollowmen".

Conrad's prose, much like James Baldwin's, is more poetry than prose, expecially when read aloud.

der Brucer
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: singingnymph on November 16, 2006, 10:06:36 AM
Speaking of plotzing...

I was the resident HMOT at the CSUN Hillel for a few years. One day a few of us students were looking at some pictures on the wall & I noticed that I was in one that had recently been put up.  My happy talk went something like this: "Look! A picture of me! Granted, I don't look so great, but I'm finally up here! Li'l ol' me, the token goy!"
Ian, who was standing next to me, nearly plotzed. :)
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 10:16:01 AM
TOD:

My favorite assigned reading was a pairing of "Brave New World" with "1984".

I enjoyed Silas Marner, the Mayor of Casterbridge, and "Too Late the Phalarope".

I could not slog through either "Three Musketeers" or "David Copperfield", but thoroughly enjoyed "Scaramouch".

I also enjoyed poetry (Milton, Dante), and period plays (Goldsmith, Sheridan)

My favorite reading was extra-curricular. I really liked Science Fiction. After I had devoured all the Young Adults' section of the Public Library, the Librarian made an exception, and let me borrow a book she elected from the Adult Section - "A Princess of Mars" by Edgar Rice Burroughs - and that got me hooked on every fantasy/ Sci-Fi book Burroughs wrote. John Carter and I shared common lack of self-esteem problems ;)

der Brucer


Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: vixmom on November 16, 2006, 10:22:26 AM

DRvixmom, I see your unemployment is making you a fulltime poster.  Thank God!  Good to have you back.



 :-*
I missed you too!




I got a couple of bites on my resume.  One I declined as it was temporary and in midtown Manhattan.. the second I shall be interviewing for on Monday...


Vibes requested y'all!!  
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 10:23:40 AM
Yup - I agree. And then I had to read all the rest of Ayn Rand. Even the essays. Enough to turn a person into a Libertarian...

LOL, me too!  My history teacher told me he thought I needed to read Atlas Shrugged and that he would give me extra credit if I would do it. So i did and it blew me away. it was later that we read The Fountainhead in lit class and then I read the rest
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jennifer on November 16, 2006, 10:27:28 AM
Happy Birthday Skip.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 10:29:27 AM
How ever can you happily plow through an uber-tome like The Fountainhead and have trouble with a short novella like Heart of Darkness? (Though I can see how you might have problems identifying with Conrad's characters.)

der Brucer

I was interested in The Fountainhead I wasn't interested in Heart of Darkness.  
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: elmore3003 on November 16, 2006, 10:31:08 AM
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ EMPLOYMENT VIBES FOR DR VIXMOM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[/move]Isn't that horse racing?  I loved THREE MUSKETEERS and read it twice in the 1970s.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jennifer on November 16, 2006, 10:32:13 AM
RE: last night's MEDIUM.

So next week will DAY BREAK be on at 9pm and MEDIUM at 10pm? I'm hoping they are not on at the same time.

Anyhow i also really enjoyed last night's MEDIUM.  I loved how the daughter's dreams came into play.

I did not realize that the old boyfriend was Patricia Arquette's husband. I did not care for him. BUt perhaps that was more that the character starting to bug me.

As for the blonde deputy mayor. I didn't love her. But i didn't think she was a terrible actress either.  I didn't like how the whole thing got resolved though.  They should have had her confront scanlon (sp?).
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 10:33:02 AM
I think not, or else he could have pled insanity.

Wait...there IS no Sanity Clause...

Ok, I'll admit it. I was totally into the case when it was on. I read 23 books about the trial. Amazing that they all had a little different spin  (Marcia Clark's was the worst - gag me - she didn't deserve a 3 + million dollar book deal for losing a case)

Bottom line - I'll watch the interview and decide if I'm going to buy the book or not...

Yes, I have a T-Shirt that says "Free OJ - Don't Squeeze the Juice"  who knows 100 years from now it may be worth $15
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: vixmom on November 16, 2006, 10:33:09 AM
TOD...

I didn't care for The Old Man and The Sea .. and that wasn't because of the writing but because of the hopelessness of it all... no wonder Hemmingway commited suicide if that was his outlook on life


I remember 1984, Pig Farm, Johnny Tremain, Huckleberry Finn, The Red Badge of Courage, All Quiet on the Western Front,  The Diary of Anne Frank, Shakespeares' Julius Caesar, Hamlet & Romeo & Juliet, but I honestly cannot remember what was assigned when.  

I read so much in those days I would always have three or four books read a week and it all has become a bit of a blur as to what was assigned and what was personal reading.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jennifer on November 16, 2006, 10:33:13 AM
My two favorites on tv tonight are at 8pm: SURVIVOR and UGLY BETTY.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: JMK on November 16, 2006, 10:43:17 AM
I must say that I, too, am surprised at how many people didn't like Heart of Darkness.  I just thought it was the coolest thing I had ever read (at the time).

Ummmm.....Pig Farm?  Is that the sequel to Charlotte's Web?  ;0
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: JMK on November 16, 2006, 10:53:26 AM
Re:  Atlas Shrugged.  One of my best friends in my late teens was an ardent Objectivist who had read all of Rand.  As I was slogging my way through Atlas, I got to the little twist (SPOILER:  the "secret village"), and complained about how contrived it was.  This guy, who would defend Rand to his dying breath, said, "Yeah, it kind of makes you want to throw the book across the room, doesn't it?"
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 10:58:34 AM
My history teacher told me he thought I needed to read Atlas Shrugged and that he would give me extra credit if I would do it. So i did and it blew me.

Cool! I am going to check it out!  ;D
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 10:59:42 AM
There's also a very good documentary about Ayn Rand...can't remember the name but I'm sure it's easy to find...Der B....
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 11:01:55 AM
Ok, I'll admit it. I was totally into the case when it was on. I read 23 books about the trial.

And after all this reserach you have concluded...?

For me:

All my exposure is from 24/7 TV coverage.

Do I think he did it? Yes.

Do I think the DA proved the case beyond a reasonable doubt? Probably not. (If I had been on the jury I would not have hung the case based on my vote - either way.)

If, like some of the jurors, I had a societal background that held law enforcement personnel in low regard, I would have found Fuhrman's lying under oath and the unbelievably careless handling of evidence sufficient to find reasonable doubt.

der brucer
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 11:03:57 AM
Not since Laura Reynolds kissed Tom Lee in "Tea and Sympathy" has criticism been so softly delivered.
der Brucer

LOL! Well, there are both Classics Illustrated as well as Illustrated Classics. I think the latter might be books. Wonder which came first, and I wonder if they are still published? I think it was a great way to introduce kids to classic books they might want to read later.

I had the Silas Marner C.I. and in my mind it was always pronounced "Silly-Ass Marner". I loved the comic but never read the book, tho.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 11:06:07 AM
the "secret village"

Oh yes, I remember that from "The Prisoner", my all-time favorite TV series.   :)
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 11:07:50 AM
There's also a very good documentary about Ayn Rand...can't remember the name but I'm sure it's easy to find...Der B....

This one?
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/6305609241.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1056623028_.gif)

 AMAZON (http://www.amazon.com/Ayn-Rand-Sense-Sharon-Gless/dp/6305609241/sr=1-1/qid=1163703455/ref=sr_1_1/002-7571270-8396857?ie=UTF8&s=dvd)

der Brucer


Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: JMK on November 16, 2006, 11:09:31 AM
Oh yes, I remember that from "The Prisoner", my all-time favorite TV series.   :)

I just got the DVD megaset from DDD for free (a very good price).
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 11:12:06 AM
I was the resident HMOT at the CSUN Hillel for a few years. One day a few of us students were looking at some pictures on the wall & I noticed that I was in one that had recently been put up.  My happy talk went something like this: "Look! A picture of me! Granted, I don't look so great, but I'm finally up here! Li'l ol' me, the token goy!"

I was a shabboth goy---played piano and arranged music on shows for the youth theatre at the Ahavath Achim synagogue for several years. Good times---learned some Hebrew, too.

But I don't know what an HMOT is! Anything like a BMOC?
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 11:13:41 AM
I just got the DVD megaset from DDD for free (a very good price).

Damn! I paid for mine, but still at a very good price, thanks to you guys!
Still waiting for it, along with "Aventurera".
I LOVE DDD!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 11:15:02 AM
This one?

The very one!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:21:20 AM
Who is John Galt?

Love the Ayn Rand documentary....and the Showtime movie featuring Helen Mirrin as Ayn and Eric Stoltz as Nathaniel Branden.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: bk on November 16, 2006, 11:21:50 AM
Dealing with trying to find a replacement - this I do not love.  It's quite the dilemma.  I've auditioned three people - one wasn't the right type but sang well.  One sang well and was more the type but didn't seem to have the "it" factor.  One girl (who Pogue will remember from our Schwab's days) sang fine and seemed to act the part okay but again a kind of lack of "it" - the latter is who I'm thinking seriously about.  I'm trying to audition two more girls tonight as well as re-see two of the above.

And then there's this gal in NY who was recommended to me by Mr. Craig Brockman.  She's very cute and I've already heard her sing the two songs from the show (the joys of the Internet - I sent her the songs, plus the piano tracks, too, and she did a rough recording).  Knowing the recording was down and dirty, there was something I liked about her and her look is terrific - she's also willing to fly in on a moment's notice and do the show.  The problem is, I haven't read her, haven't seen her in person.  I've just sent her a script via e-mail and am going to try and read her tonight via the telephonic device.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: George on November 16, 2006, 11:22:43 AM
A Very Happy Birthday to Skip!! ;D
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:23:23 AM
So many books are coming back to me:

I liked 1984, too.  As I Lay Dying was slow going, but I liked Sanctuary.  

There will  be no new books like The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged - at least not in this market,   But I have confidence in American Writers.  And it is out there.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 11:24:27 AM
Here's some NEWS!

Starbucks has pulled a coup of sorts....for the first time in any commercial form WHATSOEVER, the original soundtrack to

White Christmas (http://www.hearmusi c.com/#PRODUCT23 2)
is available on CD along with the purchase of the DVD of the movie.  And a book is included!




All for the price of $19.99 at Starbucks nationwide apparently.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:25:01 AM
Dealing with trying to find a replacement - this I do not love.  It's quite the dilemma.  I've auditioned three people - one wasn't the right type but sang well.  One sang well and was more the type but didn't seem to have the "it" factor.  One girl (who Pogue will remember from our Schwab's days) sang fine and seemed to act the part okay but again a kind of lack of "it" - the latter is who I'm thinking seriously about.  I'm trying to audition two more girls tonight as well as re-see two of the above.

And then there's this gal in NY who was recommended to me by Mr. Craig Brockman.  She's very cute and I've already heard her sing the two songs from the show (the joys of the Internet - I sent her the songs, plus the piano tracks, too, and she did a rough recording).  Knowing the recording was down and dirty, there was something I liked about her and her look is terrific - she's also willing to fly in on a moment's notice and do the show.  The problem is, I haven't read her, haven't seen her in person.  I've just sent her a script via e-mail and am going to try and read her tonight via the telephonic device.

A "pig in a poke" so to speak.  Diana Darrin can sing, can't she, DR MBARNUM?  ;D
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:26:08 AM
Here's some NEWS!

Starbucks has pulled a coup of sorts....for the first time in any commercial form WHATSOEVER, the original soundtrack to

 White Christmas (http://www.hearmusi c.com/#PRODUCT23 2)

is available on CD along with the purchase of the DVD of the movie.  And a book is included!




All for the price of $19.99 at Starbucks nationwide apparently.

I just saw that ad on TV....hmmmm....I am intrigued.

Today I received FLOWER DRUM SONG, FORBIDDEN PLANET, and the WC cast CD.   8)
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ben on November 16, 2006, 11:26:54 AM
HMOT (Honorary Member of the Tribe)
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 11:27:06 AM
Here's some NEWS!
White Christmas (http://www.hearmusi c.com/#PRODUCT23 2)
is available on CD along with the purchase of the DVD of the movie.  And a book is included!9.99 at Starbucks nationwide apparently.

I saw that yesterday. It looks nice! But now I need to think about presents for other people!  :)
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: JMK on November 16, 2006, 11:27:10 AM
A "pig in a poke" so to speak.  Diana Darrin can sing, can't she, DR MBARNUM?  ;D

Was she in the film version of Pig Farm?   ;D
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:27:24 AM
Best of charm the audience vibes for MR BK and for DR EDISAURUS....

We will of course want to hear the most interesting and the dumbest questions you both receive...from said audiences.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Charles Pogue on November 16, 2006, 11:27:48 AM
Our friend, the bartender?
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:27:57 AM
Was she in the film version of Pig Farm?   ;D

Reform School Girls.....same thing, really.  :P
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 11:28:00 AM
LOL! Well, there are both Classics Illustrated as well as Illustrated Classics.
I had the Silas Marner C.I. and in my mind it was always pronounced "Silly-Ass Marner". I loved the comic but never read the book, tho.

I meant the Comics:

(From  Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classics_Illustrated)

Quote
Classics Illustrated were comic book adaptations from classic literature, a series that Russian-born Albert Lewis Kanter (1897-1973) began in 1941 for Elliot Publishing. Introduced under the heading Classic Comics, the series started October, 1941, with a 64-page adaptation of Alexandre Dumas' The Three Musketeers, followed by Ivanhoe and The Count of Monte Cristo. With the fourth issue, The Last of the Mohicans, Kanter began his own Gilberton Publications. The first 12 issues had 64 pages, but wartime paper shortages forced Kanter to reduce each issue to 56 pages. In 1947, after the first 34 issues, Kanter changed the title from Classic Comics to Classics Illustrated, a logo with a high visibiity over the next 15 years because Kanter, unlike other comic book publishers, kept his titles in print, going back to press with occasional reprintings.

In 1948, rising paper costs resulted in a reduction from 56 pages to 48 pages. In addition to the illustrated adaptations, the books featured biographical profiles, educational fillers and house ads (but no outside advertising). This 48-page format continued throughout the run.
(http://www.classicscentral.com/pic6/cc28.jpg)

(http://www.classicscentral.com/pic9/ci055c.jpg)

der Brucer

Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:28:21 AM
Our friend, the bartender?

I should have known you would know where to find the girls and the booze.  ;D
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: George on November 16, 2006, 11:28:44 AM
Last night, in commenting about the season premiere of MEDIUM, DR George wrote:

"Not that that matters, but it's nice to see some personal stories every once in a while, except that I didn't care how Scanlon's personal issues were depicted."

I agree. That was a wimpy way out of the situation. However, I hadn't realized until last night what a terrible actress it is playing the assistant mayor. She's easily the worst actress I've seen on a prime time series in a regular role. (I didn't pay much attention to her last season as she was in and out quickly and didn't hook up with Scanlon until late in the season.)

Wonder if she's the wife or girl friend of one of the producers because I can't honestly see how else she could have landed this high profile job as bad as she is.

I totally agree about that actress.  Talk about a lack of "it."  She has absolutely no presence.  I was wondering if maybe she was a real assistant mayor or something like that and won the role in a contest. ::)
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:29:59 AM
Loved The Count of Monte Cristo, Beau Geste, Blood and Sand, and The Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse.

The last two were part of a four volume Ibanez set of books purchased for 25 cents when I was eleven.  Captain Blood and Scaramouche were also included.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:32:57 AM
DR MATTH - I keep meaning to tell you, since you are discussing the JULIUS CAESAR.....

Marlon Brando wanted to play Marc Antony but didn't have a reputation for playing the classics in Hollywood - so he made a tape recording of himself doing the famous "Friends, Romans, countrymen...." speech, and he sent to producer John Houseman.

Houseman's secretary put the tape on.  He listened for a few minutes and then said:  "Why the hell is June Allyson sending me this tape?"
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:38:02 AM
Not much interested in Mr OJ's book or interview.

HOWEVER - I could have had the case in the bag from the first day.....if anyone wants to know how, just ask.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: vixmom on November 16, 2006, 11:42:02 AM
I saw that yesterday. It looks nice! But now I need to think about presents for other people!  :)

Well I'll buy one for you and you buy one for me....... ;D
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: vixmom on November 16, 2006, 11:44:39 AM
Not much interested in Mr OJ's book or interview.

HOWEVER - I could have had the case in the bag from the first day.....if anyone wants to know how, just ask.

witch balls?
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:51:54 AM


One star out of five for his "comeback" last night, singing just four lines of "We Are the World."    8)
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:52:23 AM
witch balls?

No.   :D
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 11:57:39 AM
Hmmm.....three times trying post of picture of Mr Michael Jackson....it must be the pretzels.
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Post by: Jeanne on November 16, 2006, 12:05:01 PM
DR RON PULLIAM,
Loved your Superman joke.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jeanne on November 16, 2006, 12:06:10 PM
DR MUSIC GUY,
Re: royalty checks and residuals: writers don't get paid much better!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 12:07:22 PM
DR MUSIC GUY,
Re: royalty checks and residuals: writers don't get paid much better!

Neither do psychics, but they see it not coming.  ;D
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Post by: Jeanne on November 16, 2006, 12:18:38 PM
Then don't! Sit down on the edge of the desk, invite the students into your den, and talk with them. They would much prefer you share, rather than lecture.

der Brucer

It helps to have an audience plant that can lob some softball pitches to get you over the rough spots.

Concur!! Sitting on the edge of the desk is one of my old tricks. I had an instructor who did it and it just made me feel relaxed, so I adopted it. It makes me feel more relaxed in front of an audience, and I believe it works for many students as well.

I've never had the luxury of an audience plant, however. Great idea, though.
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Post by: Jeanne on November 16, 2006, 12:20:37 PM
Neither do psychics, but they see it not coming.  ;D

Very good!
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 12:22:30 PM
And after all this reserach you have concluded...?


Ok, in a nutshell, do I think he did it?  Yes. I wouldn't have admitted that at the time, but I have always thought that.

Do I also think that the LAPD planted evidence and in essence tried to frame a guilty man? I think that's entirely possible, too.

The trial - the trial fascinated me, probably more from a criminal defense perspective than anything.  There were so many fundamental errors made by the lawyers, especially the prosecution.   I think the defense lawyers, especially Johnnie Cochran were pros at baiting the prosecutors and they continually fell for it to their detriment.

Mistake #1 - Marcia Clark thought that black female jurors liked her even though their experts and a mock jury said otherwise. Hello, she should have had an inkling that the police weren't held in the highest esteem in that community and that Johnnie Cochran had been a trailblazer in the area of misconduct by the LAPD involving the African American community.  

Mistake #2 - The prosecution didn't need to call Mark Fuhrman. They could have made their case without him.  The defense threatened to call him....fine, let them.  The impeachment of your own witness never carries as much weight as the impeachment of the other side's witness. The "n" word was an issue that never needed to be introduced into the trial. They allowed it to happen by putting him on the stand.

Mistake #3 - The glove. For goodness sake, this was another Cochran telling Darden..."if you don't do it we will" so Darden did it without even knowing what would happen.  Logic tells you if you get leather wet - with blood or water or something -it will shrink when it dries. Add to that a latex glove and there is no way it would fit, especially if it was fairly tight to begin with. If the defense had him try it on, the prosecution can laugh and explain all the reasons it won't fit.  When the prosecution has him try it on...they are stuck with the results.

Mistake #4 - I don't think the prosecutors were ready for someone like Barry Scheck who is a DNA expert himself and who works tirelessly.  He spent endless hours pouring through everything time and time again and that allowed him to find the photo with the blood spot missing from the gate. I don't think the scientific evidence ever recovered from "What about THAT, Mr. Fung?" (my favorite line from the trial). There was never a good explanation from the government for why there was blood in one photo and not another. It played right into the planting of evidence theory, something those who know LAPD, know they have done before.

I really do believe the prosecutors lost the case. Johnnie Cochran's finesse and Barry Sheck's hard work and incredible knowledge of DNA helped considerably.  But I think the prosecutors thought there was no way they could lose this, got over confident, made stupid mistakes and couldn't recover from them. It really does irritate me that you can lose the "trial of the century" through your own stupidity and then make millions selling a book about it..... but that's my issue and I bought a copy so I should shut up about it.

It doesn't bother me that he won.  If you think about the literally hundreds of people who have been wrongly convicted, the one that got away isn't such a big deal. "It's better to have one hundred guilty men go free than to wrongly convict one" (or something like that) And, if the police and prosecutors aren't held to a high standard by jurors and the community, there will be more wrongful convictions...so that's my 2 cents

Now, aren't you glad you asked  ;)


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Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 12:24:02 PM
No.   :D

Then what?
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Post by: Jeanne on November 16, 2006, 12:25:12 PM
Re: writing fiction: I used to know two women who wrote romance novels and did fairly well at it. It's NOT the sort of thing I could write, but if DR VIXMOM (or others) are interested, PM me and I'll pass on what I know about it. Apparently, it SELLS.
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 16, 2006, 12:25:18 PM

And then there's this gal in NY who was recommended to me by Mr. Craig Brockman.  She's very cute and I've already heard her sing the two songs from the show (the joys of the Internet - I sent her the songs, plus the piano tracks, too, and she did a rough recording).  Knowing the recording was down and dirty, there was something I liked about her and her look is terrific - she's also willing to fly in on a moment's notice and do the show.  The problem is, I haven't read her, haven't seen her in person.  I've just sent her a script via e-mail and am going to try and read her tonight via the telephonic device.


Not only did I just have a lovely discussion about replacements with Dear Friend BK, I have heard the mp3s of the two numbers and seen the photos.  She's quite cute, and I await the outcome with curiosity.

I just finished the Act One finale, went to the bank to deposit a check from today's mail, and I think I'll start another Brain number before I head downtown.  The weather is revving up  for a tempest tonight, and it may be quite ugly when I head back home.
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Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 12:42:01 PM
Then what?

Police detectives or officers locate Mr Simpson in Chicago and tell him:

"Mr Simpson, your ex-wife has been murdered."

OJ says:  "Oh my God, Nicole...."

But he has TWO ex-wives.   ;D
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 12:42:41 PM
It's always ugly when I get back home....same as when I left.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on November 16, 2006, 12:43:51 PM
We didn't have a television during that whole Simpson trial, for which I was very glad.
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 12:50:47 PM
Police detectives or officers locate Mr Simpson in Chicago and tell him:

"Mr Simpson, your ex-wife has been murdered."

OJ says:  "Oh my God, Nicole...."

But he has TWO ex-wives.   ;D

Very good, Watson
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Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 12:58:14 PM
Very good, Watson

Make the check out to cash!  ;D
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Post by: bk on November 16, 2006, 01:00:54 PM
Pogue, yes, the bartender, Ashley.  I like her, but she comes off a little too "today" for my tastes, whereas the NY gal has a timeless cute look to her and she doesn't sound "today".
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Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 01:03:01 PM
You mean she's more Britany Spears than June Kenney?
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 01:22:47 PM
DR RON PULLIAM,
Loved your Superman joke.



THANK YOU!!!

;D
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 01:24:40 PM
It's always ugly when I get back home....same as when I left.

You should try rearranging the furniture...painting the walls...putting out some flowers.

Paint the outside of the house.  Mow the lawn.  Plant some flowers.

Install a lawn jockey or some pink flamingoes.

You need something to look forward to...even if it's something that makes you GRIN!
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Post by: singingnymph on November 16, 2006, 01:25:46 PM
HMOT (Honorary Member of the Tribe)
Thanks! I was already gone.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 01:26:55 PM
You should try rearranging the furniture...painting the walls...putting out some flowers.

Paint the outside of the house.  Mow the lawn.  Plant some flowers.

Install a lawn jockey or some pink flamingoes.

You need something to look forward to...even if it's something that makes you GRIN!

Sounds like a plan.  8)
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Post by: singingnymph on November 16, 2006, 01:28:53 PM
Hehehe. I had to look up BMOC.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 01:30:47 PM
I've never had the luxury of an audience plant, however.  

Where would you find one?  A nursery, perhaps?  
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 16, 2006, 01:31:21 PM
Pogue, yes, the bartender, Ashley.  I like her, but she comes off a little too "today" for my tastes, whereas the NY gal has a timeless cute look to her and she doesn't sound "today".

She's really cute, the NY girl!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 01:34:35 PM
Hmmm.....three times trying post of picture of Mr Michael Jackson....it must be the pretzels.


Hope you've given up on it.  I'd hate to see the forum tainted beyond redemmption!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 01:35:24 PM
She's really cute, the NY girl!


Wow!  She REALLY IS!  

I vote for her!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 01:39:00 PM
RE: last night's MEDIUM.

So next week will DAY BREAK be on at 9pm and MEDIUM at 10pm? I'm hoping they are not on at the same time.


Yes, DAY BREAK is in LOST's 9 p.m. slot. MEDIUM's slot is 10 p.m. on their respective networks.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 01:44:47 PM
Here's some NEWS!

Starbucks has pulled a coup of sorts....for the first time in any commercial form WHATSOEVER, the original soundtrack to

White Christmas (http://www.hearmusi c.com/#PRODUCT23 2)
is available on CD along with the purchase of the DVD of the movie.  And a book is included!




All for the price of $19.99 at Starbucks nationwide apparently.

Except it's not the soundtrack. It's that rerecording of the songs with Peggy Lee subbing for Rosie Clooney and different arrangements for most of the numbers.

I searched for that on LP for years and years and finally found it. I thought at worst it'd be like the NO BUSINESS LIKE SHOW BUSINESS with real soundtrack cuts except in WHITE CHRISTMAS for the Clooney numbers with Peggy's vocals over the same tracks as Rosie's. Nope, a tremendous disappointment.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2006, 01:48:10 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SKIP
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 01:48:25 PM
DR MATTH - I keep meaning to tell you, since you are discussing the JULIUS CAESAR.....

Marlon Brando wanted to play Marc Antony but didn't have a reputation for playing the classics in Hollywood - so he made a tape recording of himself doing the famous "Friends, Romans, countrymen...." speech, and he sent to producer John Houseman.

Houseman's secretary put the tape on.  He listened for a few minutes and then said:  "Why the hell is June Allyson sending me this tape?"

That's funny! Thanks for sharing.

On the DVD, Osborne states that Gielgud recorded the oration speech at Brando's behest so Brando could study cadence, etc.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 01:51:10 PM
I watched some more of STAR! off the INHD broadcast, but after "Limehouse Blues," I just deleted the rest. The DVD is almost as good, and I had many other things to watch today.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 01:53:04 PM
I watched the second episode of BONES that was shown last night. It was a rerun from season 1 (with the male boss that I much prefer to this year's female replacement.) As always, the show is lighter and more fun than some other procedurals, and the characters are so nerdy/endearing.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 01:56:43 PM
I watched DAY BREAK next. Yes, there were exciting parts to the story, and each variation on the day was interesting and different enough to hold my attention. But once it became obvious to him that his girl friend would awake each day OK, I don't understand the necessity in his mind to save her. She wasn't in any real danger. His first priority obviously needs to be to find our who murdered to DA and was framing him.

The fact that his wounds do carry over from one day to the next repeat day is an anachronism that I just couldn't buy into. So, while the action was OK, and I'll probably keep watching for awhile, it isn't in the same league with LOST or '24' as an action/thriller.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 01:58:38 PM
Ended the afternoon viewing with Tuesday's LAW & ORDER: SVU, a sad story of lonely, unloved young teens being pimped by a scumbag that they think of as their "father." Very melancholy story.
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 02:25:39 PM
Is it soup yet?
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 02:38:54 PM
Heading down now to get some chores out of the way. Did the cleaning this morning once again since I got up earlier than I expected to.

WBBL.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: elmore3003 on November 16, 2006, 02:49:52 PM
Wow!  I just finished "Independence Day."  I'm down now to Alet's big number, the two for Donna, and the two duets for the leads, one of which is one of the loveliest things ever.  The other duet, which I also like, uses a bit of a "Bus & Truck" song, which I love in its original form, but until BK and David actually write "Bus & Truck" as a sort of American version of THE GOOD COMPANIONS, "I Hate You" will become BK's "I'm In Pursuit of Happiness."
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 02:54:51 PM
Unfortuantely, the Starbucks site isn't forthcoming with the particulars on the CD soundtrack to "White Christmas" -- but other internet searches reveal universal disappointment that it's just a reissue of an old Decca recording.

Sigh.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on November 16, 2006, 03:03:59 PM
...and the characters are so nerdy/endearing.

Will they find a boy-friend for Zach?

(http://www.nyblade.com/2004/12-31/arts/main/Point2.jpg)

That's Eric Millegan as Harold in the musical "Harold and Maude".

der Brucer
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Post by: elmore3003 on November 16, 2006, 03:04:48 PM
I think tonight I will lay out one of Donna's numbers in the original keys in case the new actress prefers it up a half step.  It will be a very quiet evening, I think.  The rains are on the way, although the weather outside is not as boisterous as it was two hours ago.
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Post by: George on November 16, 2006, 03:18:14 PM

Here's some NEWS!

Starbucks has pulled a coup of sorts....for the first time in any commercial form WHATSOEVER, the original soundtrack to

White Christmas (http://www.hearmusi c.com/#PRODUCT23 2)
is available on CD along with the purchase of the DVD of the movie.  And a book is included!

All for the price of $19.99 at Starbucks nationwide apparently.

Except it's not the soundtrack. It's that rerecording of the songs with Peggy Lee subbing for Rosie Clooney and different arrangements for most of the numbers.

I searched for that on LP for years and years and finally found it. I thought at worst it'd be like the NO BUSINESS LIKE SHOW BUSINESS with real soundtrack cuts except in WHITE CHRISTMAS for the Clooney numbers with Peggy's vocals over the same tracks as Rosie's. Nope, a tremendous disappointment.

Now you tell me. ::) At lunch, I went to the local Tumwater Starbucks and bought it.  I've never owned the movie, so I'm glad that I got it, but you'd think that the Starbucks/TCM people would be more honest about what's on the CD.  And the "book" is a 12-page "viewing guide" that has some holiday movie suggestions, bios for the four leads of the movie, two very simple drink recipies, a few finger food recipies and bunch of trivia questions.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 03:42:51 PM
Except it's not the soundtrack. It's that rerecording of the songs with Peggy Lee subbing for Rosie Clooney and different arrangements for most of the numbers.

I searched for that on LP for years and years and finally found it. I thought at worst it'd be like the NO BUSINESS LIKE SHOW BUSINESS with real soundtrack cuts except in WHITE CHRISTMAS for the Clooney numbers with Peggy's vocals over the same tracks as Rosie's. Nope, a tremendous disappointment.Now you tell me. ::) At lunch, I went to the local Tumwater Starbucks and bought it.  I've never owned the movie, so I'm glad that I got it, but you'd think that the Starbucks/TCM people would be more honest about what's on the CD.  And the "book" is a 12-page "viewing guide" that has some holiday movie suggestions, bios for the four leads of the movie, two very simple drink recipies, a few finger food recipies and bunch of trivia questions.

You could give it to someone as a holiday offering, George!

I probably won't even open the one I ordered online!

Some poor soul on the east coast will, unexpectedly I'm sure, find it in the mail delivery some mid-December day.

Oh, well....
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Post by: TCB on November 16, 2006, 03:42:55 PM
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Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 03:46:57 PM
Wow!  I just finished "Independence Day."  I'm down now to Alet's big number, the two for Donna, and the two duets for the leads, one of which is one of the loveliest things ever.  The other duet, which I also like, uses a bit of a "Bus & Truck" song, which I love in its original form, but until BK and David actually write "Bus & Truck" as a sort of American version of THE GOOD COMPANIONS, "I Hate You" will become BK's "I'm In Pursuit of Happiness."


Interesting and intriguing.  8)
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 03:47:24 PM
I totally agree about that actress.  Talk about a lack of "it."  She has absolutely no presence.  I was wondering if maybe she was a real assistant mayor or something like that and won the role in a contest. ::)

Et tu, George?  Et tu....?


Oy!

 :-\
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 03:48:23 PM
So it's the Decca "soundtrack" with Clooney's Columbia tracks?  
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 03:49:17 PM
Still - who sings "The Best Things Happen When you Dance?"

I love the photos in the WC Cast Album I got today.  Bravo to the Costume Designer!
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Post by: TCB on November 16, 2006, 03:49:48 PM

Good morning DRs one and all ( I know..... and all and one!)

DR Laura....do you know yet what your travel plans are going to be, going and returning to and from L.A. for the Dec. 8, 9, 10 weekend.  ??

Hi DR FJL.... I have you and Skip on the "breakfast list," and it is very possible that we could swing by the Sheraton Universal and give you a ride....





... And after that, breakfast?
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Michael on November 16, 2006, 04:13:19 PM
True story about reading books for high school.

I was managing a Blockbuster store and all of a sudden there a great demand for the Scarlet Letter with Demi Moore. It turns out that they had to read the book, do a review and answer questions about it. Every person who rented the film (and I know this by their complaints) failed because instead of reading the book and watching the film they only watch the film. The people who rented the film only talked about the story's happy ending which only happened in the film and not in the novel. They complained to me that the film got it wrong and I told them they should have read the book because movies always change things. Then they said you should have said something. I said You never asked and it wasn't my place to tell you that,:
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: George on November 16, 2006, 04:15:18 PM
So it's the Decca "soundtrack" with Clooney's Columbia tracks?  

Nope.  She's nowhere to be heard on this CD that come with the DVD from Starbucks.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2006, 04:17:15 PM
I've been searching for my "White Christmas". I forgot it was in the box with my red garters!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: George on November 16, 2006, 04:17:25 PM
You could give it to someone as a holiday offering, George!

No, I'll keep it.  Like the movie, I've never owned this recording, so there's no reason to get rid of it.  And if the actual movie soundtrack doesn't have too much (any?) dialogue over the songs, I can always make my own CD of the songs with Rosemary. :)
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Post by: TCB on November 16, 2006, 04:26:06 PM
Dealing with trying to find a replacement - this I do not love.  It's quite the dilemma.  I've auditioned three people - one wasn't the right type but sang well.  One sang well and was more the type but didn't seem to have the "it" factor.  One girl (who Pogue will remember from our Schwab's days) sang fine and seemed to act the part okay but again a kind of lack of "it" - the latter is who I'm thinking seriously about.  I'm trying to audition two more girls tonight as well as re-see two of the above.

And then there's this gal in NY who was recommended to me by Mr. Craig Brockman.  She's very cute and I've already heard her sing the two songs from the show (the joys of the Internet - I sent her the songs, plus the piano tracks, too, and she did a rough recording).  Knowing the recording was down and dirty, there was something I liked about her and her look is terrific - she's also willing to fly in on a moment's notice and do the show.  The problem is, I haven't read her, haven't seen her in person.  I've just sent her a script via e-mail and am going to try and read her tonight via the telephonic device.



What about Jessica Skerritt?
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 16, 2006, 04:26:10 PM
So it's the Decca "soundtrack" with Clooney's Columbia tracks?  

Was there any indication of Clooney tracks?
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 04:37:11 PM
Brian Stokes Mitchell is on JEOPARDY tonight!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 04:38:29 PM
Well the Decca "soundtrack" had Peggy Lee or someone, but Rosemary released a lot of the songs on a Columbia album....I thought I read that these were included....or maybe it said that on TCM.

I am confused.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 04:39:27 PM
I've been searching for my "White Christmas". I forgot it was in the box with my red garters!

With a dime and a dollar?  ;D
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jane on November 16, 2006, 04:42:17 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SKIP!!![/size] :D
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2006, 04:45:52 PM
LOL JRAND.  You're a brave man.  Oz mail should arrive in the next day or so!
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: TCB on November 16, 2006, 04:45:54 PM
Brian Stokes Mitchell is on JEOPARDY tonight!


So is Drew Lachey.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 04:47:58 PM
Watched the extras on Forbidden Planet and Flower Drum Song.

Very nice to see Pat Suzuki, Nancy Kwan (who claims to "sing" in the movie, but maybe it's set straight in the commentary), and Patrick Adiarte who looks like DR JOSE'S much older brother.  I will watch with commentary next week sometime.  And if you didn't get enough of the sets, you can always watch BACK STREET which re-uses several of them.  It always amazes me how much the Sharraff-designed "Sunday Sweet Sunday" is staged and costumed like A Star is Born's "Born in a Trunk" agent sequence.....also designed by Irene Sharaff.  What is it with her and the cinched waistline but dropped waist on the dress....ugh.

Planet had some nice extras....deleted scenes, interviews (sort of) with Anne Francis, Leslie Nielsen, Warren Stevens, and BK's neighbor Earl Holliman, among others.  Especially liked the Robby the Robot feature, and the episode of The Thin Man!  Haven't watched either feature, but I will do so next week.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 04:48:47 PM
LOL JRAND.  You're a brave man.  Oz mail should arrive in the next day or so!

Woooooohoooooooooo.....quite an accomplishment since I can't seem to get an envelope from Indiana to NYC.  :P
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 04:49:22 PM
So is Drew Lachey.

Why yes, he is.  :o
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: TCB on November 16, 2006, 04:55:30 PM
Not much interested in Mr OJ's book or interview.

HOWEVER - I could have had the case in the bag from the first day.....if anyone wants to know how, just ask.

Don't you find it rather frightening, that twelve years after the fact, he can still get the whole country talking about him?
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: TCB on November 16, 2006, 04:59:31 PM
I must admit that I am tempted to shell out the bucks to see DANCING WITH THE STARS tour in Seattle on December 22.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 05:02:45 PM
Yes DR TCB...frightening and shocking.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 05:03:11 PM
I must admit that I am tempted to shell out the bucks to see DANCING WITH THE STARS tour in Seattle on December 22.

Do you get to vote on the performances?  ;D
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jrand69 on November 16, 2006, 05:03:45 PM
Installing updates.....
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: George on November 16, 2006, 05:05:04 PM
Was there any indication of Clooney tracks?

In the cardboard sleeve for the DVD, there are the equivalent of liner notes for the "Limited Edition Original Soundtrack":

....The male leads, Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye, along with Trudy Stevens who was the voice-double for Vera-Ellen in the film, came together for the original studio recording of the soundtrack; however Rosemary Cooney, who held a recording contract with Columbia was unable to join the trio.  Decca substituted the divine Peggy Lee to complete the group and together they create this truly inimitable compilation.

The soundtrack as it appeared on its original release -
Selections from Irving Berlin's White Christmas - has been largely unavailable in recent decades and Turner Classic Movies along with its partners Universal Music and Starbucks Hear Music take great pleasure in including this limited edition CD to complement your holiday merriment.

The thing that gets me is that Peggy Lee sings both parts to "Sisters." ???
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: TCB on November 16, 2006, 05:09:26 PM
Do you get to vote on the performances?  ;D


No, but you can win a date with Bruno.
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: Jane on November 16, 2006, 05:10:16 PM
Vixmom-GOOD MONDAY VIBES!

Bruce-I expect you will find the perfect replacement, to be safe, GOOD VIBES! :)
Title: Re:PLOTZING
Post by: TCB on November 16, 2006, 05:12:08 PM
Hello, Jane, I have missed you.
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Post by: FJL on November 16, 2006, 05:13:46 PM
Thanks for the continued birthday wishes for Skip!   He's been loving them.
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Post by: TCB on November 16, 2006, 05:21:40 PM
Let me try this again:

Wow!  You never know where one of our very own HHW family will show up next (check out the writing credits)



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0828151/


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Post by: Jane on November 16, 2006, 05:29:43 PM
TCB-come for a visit.
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Post by: Jane on November 16, 2006, 05:33:13 PM
Sherlock was very good today.  We worked on “no bite” & he was much better.  
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Post by: TCB on November 16, 2006, 05:37:06 PM
TCB-come for a visit.


I would love to visit.  I want to meet your new little baby!
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 05:39:14 PM
Sherlock was very good today.  We worked on “no bite” & he was much better.  

He's a cutie.  The difference in his eye color is fascinating
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Post by: TCB on November 16, 2006, 05:47:11 PM
He's a cutie.  The difference in his eye color is fascinating


What's wrong with my eye color?  Oh, you meant Sherlock!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on November 16, 2006, 06:07:39 PM
I want a puppy.
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Post by: Jane on November 16, 2006, 06:21:58 PM
TCB-LOL-little puppy isn’t so little any more & his puppy fur is beginning to shed.  Oh, he has lost two baby teeth.  Unfortunately we didn’t find them.  I would like a keepsake.

Cillaliz-We considered not taking the puppy with only one blue eye.  We weren’t sure if we would like it.  I do, Keith is okay with it.  Surprising to us are all the positive comments we have regarding his eyes, and parents of very young children use them for a lesson in colors.

DRLaura-Feel free to come play with Sherlock anytime. :)
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on November 16, 2006, 06:50:04 PM
DRLaura-Feel free to come play with Sherlock anytime. :)

Next time I'm in the area I'll drop by. ;)
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Post by: FJL on November 16, 2006, 07:10:17 PM
Jane - You'll find your puppy's baby teeth at some point when you're walking barefoot.

That's almost as much a fact of life as finding something in the last place you look.  :)
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 08:10:54 PM
Tomorrow is Friday, YEAH.....that is all
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Post by: Cillaliz on November 16, 2006, 08:12:42 PM
Actually, that isnt' all. Just finished watching a great doc on the Villisca Axe Murders.  It's an unsolved murder in a little town in Iowa back in 1912.  8 people axed to death.  A state senator was accused, a crazy traveling minister was accused and no one was ever convicted.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 08:13:34 PM
Will they find a boy-friend for Zach?

(http://www.nyblade.com/2004/12-31/arts/main/Point2.jpg)

That's Eric Millegan as Harold in the musical "Harold and Maude".



Eric is gay in real life (very open about it), but on the show he plays a straight character, so I doubt a boy friend will be forthcoming.
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Post by: MusicGuy on November 16, 2006, 08:18:32 PM
Skip just called from Costco, and I recited some of the birthday wishes, all of which he'll read when he gets home.   You guys are wonderful!

MusicGuy - that would be great!  Is Dupar's very far from Universal City?

DR FJL -- No, it is only about 15 minutes from where you are staying out to DuPars.  No big deal.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 08:18:49 PM
I don't believe there are any Rosemary Clooney tracks on that Starbucks/Decca CD of WHITE CHRISTMAS. But I don't have it on CD. I'm just reporting what I read at the Home Theater Forum.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 08:22:04 PM
In the cardboard sleeve for the DVD, there are the equivalent of liner notes for the "Limited Edition Original Soundtrack":

....
The soundtrack as it appeared on its original release -
Selections from Irving Berlin's White Christmas - has been largely unavailable in recent decades and Turner Classic Movies along with its partners Universal Music and Starbucks Hear Music take great pleasure in including this limited edition CD to complement your holiday merriment.

The thing that gets me is that Peggy Lee sings both parts to "Sisters." ???

Just shows the writers of the notes don't know what the word "soundtrack" really means. Not one cut on that album is a soundtrack recording. Oy!
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 08:23:45 PM
I watched an episode of CSI: NY from the final disc in the boxed set. This is one of the season's strongest episodes, the one where Stella must fight for her life against a psychotic boy friend. Among my favorite two or three episodes of the past season.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 08:25:22 PM
MY NAME IS EARL had a cute episode with Earl trying to right a wrong done to guest star Christian Slater who now lives on a hippy commune. During the course of their efforts, Randy eats something which drugs him into seeing the world as a cartoon with some hilarious consequences.

Among the funnier EARLs of this season.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 08:29:57 PM
THE OFFICE merged the Stanford and Scranton branches in tonight's episode, and there were some absurdly funny hijinks as Michael tries to make the newscomers feel welcome and only succeeds in making them uncomfortable and even more unhappy about being unseated from their home base.

Other than one or two exceptions, the new Stanford people make the office too crowded, and I'm not sure their addition is going to help the show. Oh, the new love interest for Jim is deliberately put there to turn things around from last season when Pam had another love interest and Jim was the miserable one. Now the roles are reversed. And Andy will make a fun new nemesis for Dwight as he curries Michael's favor.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 08:31:54 PM
30 ROCK had its best-yet episode as it found much more for Jane Krakowski to do and let Alec Baldwin have center stage which he took and succeeded magnificently. I still find Tracy Morgan a total bore, but overall, the show made me laugh more tonight than either EARL of THE OFFICE, and that's quite an accomplishment for this show.
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Post by: MusicGuy on November 16, 2006, 08:33:38 PM
... And after that, breakfast?

Oh now, TCB....tsk, tsk,...I'm just a harmless old retired musician!   ::)  Really....the things your mind does !
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Post by: Michael on November 16, 2006, 08:33:47 PM
Has anyone else been having trouble getting through to the box office for The Brain From Planet X.


I tiried yesterday and today to no avail. I left my name and phone and no one has called. I have booked my airline ticket and I don't want to come all that way not to see the show. Any suggestions
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 08:33:56 PM
GREY'S ANATOMY had a very poignant episode with important things happening for all the main characters. Touching as always and bittersweet moments for Meredith, Izzy, Addison, and George.

If I'm not mistaken, this was the episode that was filming when the blow-up between Patrick Dempsey and Isiah Washington took place.
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Post by: MusicGuy on November 16, 2006, 08:40:13 PM

Good evening to the lovely hainsies and kimlets......  It is the end of a long day, and so it's time to fold up the tent soon, turn in, and scratch Sugar's ears.

Dear Esteemed BK -- All the best with doing a cast replacement....it is a hard thing to have to deal with.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 08:48:42 PM
I'm off to bed now myself.

Good night!
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Post by: Matt H. on November 16, 2006, 08:51:20 PM
Page Nine ONE HUNDRED AND ONE DALMATIANS Dance!!!


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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 09:03:12 PM
Best of charm the audience vibes for MR BK and for DR EDISAURUS....
We will of course want to hear the most interesting and the dumbest questions you both receive...from said audiences.

Thanks, DR JRand! I'll try to remember the questions, although I will be having a brain freeze the entire time...
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 09:03:59 PM
Well I'll buy one for you and you buy one for me....... ;D

Deal!
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 09:06:13 PM
Do I also think that the LAPD planted evidence

Shades of Sacco and Vanzetti
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 09:10:20 PM
She's really cute, the NY girl!

She has a nice retro look!
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2006, 09:31:09 PM
Todays' $10 purchase  _The Hunchback Of Notre Dame II"  Royalties anyone?
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 16, 2006, 10:11:15 PM
Finding the DVD today was a coincidence only. I've not seen it before.  It was not "An Ordinary Miracle".
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 10:13:07 PM
"Aventurera" temporarily out of stock on DDD. Pooh!!!!
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 10:14:17 PM
I am not meant to see this film....
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Post by: Edisaurus on November 16, 2006, 10:14:45 PM
Wonder how things went at BK day? Hmmmm...
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Post by: bk on November 17, 2006, 12:08:55 AM
Back from a long and interesting day.

elmore, actually the Brain duet was written before the Bus and Truck songs.

I'm taking overnight to make my replacement decision, but I'm leaning towards the NY gal.