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Title: TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 12:03:27 AM
Notes read, hence time for posts to be posted.  So, let's go postal and post until the cows come home, shall we?

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Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Ann on January 04, 2004, 12:17:04 AM
Good evening all.
Just watched LOTR #1.  Last night we watched the Hobbit, the old cartoon version.  Tomorrow is LOTR #2, and Monday we see the movie again in the theaters.  Get the pattern? :)  We were going to do it all in one day, but we lack the movie watching stamina.  
Today was an excellent day.  We got sun, we got beach time, and Tiana seemed to be in a much better mood.  In fact I'm noticing that the closer we get to going home, the happier she is...I'm a regular Sherlock Homles, aren't I? :)
Hey, am I a Sr. Member now?
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Ann on January 04, 2004, 12:18:04 AM
Woohoo!  I am, I am!  And first post of the day to boot.  Oh the cleverness of me.  Well, things seem to be slowing down for the night here, so I think I'll toddle off to bed.  Goodnight!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: S. Woody White on January 04, 2004, 12:18:52 AM
I have little knowledge of Tivo or of Dish.

I do know what goes on in our house.  We generally leave the television in the living room on at all times.  This makes it look like someone is either in the house, or leaving the television on all the time, I'm not sure which.

The arguement is about what station to leave on so continually.  Der Brucer leaves it at Fox News.  I am more inclined towards the Food Network.  Either way, it's lots of talk and lots of annoyance, the difference being between being annoyed by Bill O'Reilly or Emeril Lagasse.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 12:19:23 AM
Prepare for "senior's moments" DR Ann.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: S. Woody White on January 04, 2004, 12:21:12 AM
A question for DR Ann, when she returns: are you watching the original theatrical releases of LOTR, or the extended versions on DVD?  I really do prefer the yummilicious extended versions, myself.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 12:24:13 AM
Finished my Christmas celebrating today. Long and traditional story. A group of friends (of decades standing) now celebrates Christmas - presents and all - the first week of the New Year when there are no family and work pressures. We have a terrific time. I put the Christmas tree away tomorrow! We gave up satelite TV a few months ago. All those channels we never watch.  The dish remains. A chance to once again plug the Oz movie "The Dish".
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: George on January 04, 2004, 02:15:37 AM
I was most errant and truant yesterday.  I took my niece to see two movies, "A House of Fog and Sand" and "Cold Mountain."  Both were very good movies...I don't doubt that most, if not all of the leads and several supporting actors/actresses will be Golden Globe and Oscar nominated.  Both movies were quite depressing, :'( but the stories were very well told and worth it.  Oh, and on the way home afterwards the ice was so bad on the freeway that it took 1 hour and 45 mintues to go 30 miles!  Also, I saw proof that this site is the most popular on the Internet:  a license place where the last three letters were "HHW"!  Even on Washington plates! :D
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: George on January 04, 2004, 02:30:38 AM
Yesterday's topic:  in my CD player (before I left for the movies): the BK produced "Everyone Has a Story:  The Songs of Adryan Russ."  Also two CDs that I got in the mail yesterday (through eBay):  the BK produced "The MGM Album" by Debbie Gravitte and the original Broadway cast album of Thou Shalt Not written by Harry Connick, Jr.  It stars Craig Bierko, Kate Levering, Debra Monk and Norbert Leo Butz (those are the only names that I recognize.)

Along with the eBay package (those two CDs were from the same seller), I received from Amazon.com a CD by Lorraine Feather called "New York City Drag."  If you like The Manhattan Transfer and Thomas "Fats" Waller, you'll love this CD.  I haven't listened to the whole thing, but I love what I've heard.  She took a recording of Fats Waller's piano pieces and wrote lyrics to them all.  Quite good.  If you don't know who she is, among other recordings that she's released, she was the third voice with Janis Siegel and Cheryl Bentyne (of The Manhattan Transfer) singing "Back In Business" (Sondheim's version...not Madonna's) in the movie "Dick Tracy."
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: George on January 04, 2004, 02:33:10 AM
Lastly, since others have posted pictures of marquees, the only one that I have was of a show that I saw in London two years ago (starring the WSMA!):
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: George on January 04, 2004, 02:40:49 AM
And (really) finally:  WELCOME BACK WFO!

And WELCOME NEW DEAR READERS (that's "DR" in HHW lingo)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: MBarnum on January 04, 2004, 05:14:53 AM
BK, I get the Goodlife network through my Comcast Digital cable.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Panni on January 04, 2004, 06:26:32 AM
Another night of not sleeping (or sleeping very little). Soon I'll be walking around like one of the undead.
Left a play at intermission last night. Hate to do that to live actors, but it was a full house and I'm sure nobody noticed. Tennessee Williams badly done is really painful.
As I'm up, might as well feed my lucky dog early, then maybe I'll try getting back into bed.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: MBarnum on January 04, 2004, 07:06:35 AM
I slept ok, other then strange dreams that I started working at Bi-Mart (a department store I worked at for many years prior to my going to work for the state), but I woke up at the un-goshly hour of 4:30! I cuddled with Freddy for awhile and finally got up at 5am.

Now I am doing laundrey and other household chores. Soon I will call and awaken my buddy Mark and hopefully meet him for pancakes!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 04, 2004, 07:25:29 AM
A question for DR Tomovoz. I pretty well slept through the Peter Allen era and, only since seeing and listening to The Boy From Oz, have come to admire his work. What is Peter Allen's stature in Australia these days? There are two songs on the CD (one of them a bonus track) that are Australia-specific: "I Still Call Australia Home"; and "Tenterfield Saddler" (the bonus track; it should have been in the show, in my humble opinion). Are they considered national treasures?

And for DR MBarnum: When you go out for pancackes (pancake houses are not a big deal here; but pancakes at home are), do you get pure maple syrup?
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: MBarnum on January 04, 2004, 07:27:35 AM
Dan-in-Toronto, LOL, I go for the maple syrup, yes! I love pancakes at home, but I don't do a good job of cooking them. My dad was the best at making pancakes...he would add beer and corn! Yum!

Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 07:35:43 AM
Ha MBarnum: BK tricked you into wanting pancakes!

And now I want them too! :(
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 07:39:24 AM

Carrie Bradshaw's Final Reckoning: The last episodes of HBO's Sex & The City start tonight!

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/04/arts/television/04NUSS.html

Okay this article is going to make me cry I'm sure.  Why don't we have HBO in Canada?  If anyone tapes Sex & the City, I would literally send you my right arm (with diamond rings attached :))to be able to see these episodes now (instead of in 3-4 months when they air in Canada).

Oh and good morning everyone.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Matt H. on January 04, 2004, 07:43:03 AM
I wish I could help out with the TiVo questions, but I don't have it. My digital video recorder is a recorder/DVD player combination with an 80 gig hard drive. I still have to program my digital cable box which shows I want to record and tell the DVR when to turn on to catch those shows.

One more day of mild temperatures (71 forecast for today), and then we enter the deep freeze. Going to be hard to leave spring behind!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Matt H. on January 04, 2004, 07:45:06 AM
I must also remember to check our digital cable lineup for the GoodLife network. Seems like we DO get it, but I won't swear to it. There are SO many channels out there, and I just have too many DVDs here that are begging to be watched.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 07:45:50 AM
Good morning!

Well, I didn't get up as early as I had planned, but now that I am up, I'm realizing there was really not that much for me to do before today's final shows.  Usually I spend this type of morning getting all my stuff together at my parents' house so that I can make the big "move" back down to Richmond, but since I have rehearsal tomorrow - thus I won't be heading back to Richmond until Thursday - I don't have too much bringing in the sheaves to do right now.  So, instead, I post.

However, I would like to bring some treats in today for the cast, and I need to think of which bakery/treat-ery I want to stop at on the way in this afternoon.  Hmm...
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 07:46:17 AM

DR Jose wrote (last night):
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DR Jennifer - RE: Y&R - Sharon accidentally killed somebody!?!?!??  And she dragged his body across town?!?!?!?!?  HA!!  Doesn't the Newman clan have enough to deal with right now with Nicholas' "betrayal"?  *I haven't seen the show since before Christmas - they were arresting "the moustache".  I guess I have a bit of catching up to do.  And starting next week I can do just that!  A truly guilty pleasure!

Yes Sharon hit Cameron (the creep guy from when she skipped town) over the head with a bottle (he was beating her up again).  

Oops, I just realized something.  Not that anyone else here on HHW watches Y&R. But in Canada we get it one day early. So the dragging around town only happens on Monday's US show I believe.  But it's funny, since she probably weighs like 100 lbs!

One really devastating happened since X-mas. Heather Tom (Victoria) left the show (just as she was about to start a romance with my fav, Michael Baldwin).

Btw, I know it's only a soap. But I do love it (oh and if you need to catch up, email me and I'll fill you in on everything you missed).
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 07:47:24 AM
DR MBarnum - Hmm.. When I read about you cuddling up with Freddy, I started to get jealous!  Well, I'm still jealous of Freddy! Lucky... cat.  ;)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 04, 2004, 08:02:35 AM
And DR td - Thanks for whipping out your Karmaliscious Wand.

Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 08:03:01 AM
I started reading the proposals book last night.  It's funny but only one made me teary.  This guy made his girlfriend go to different locations (where they first dated) on sort of a scavenger hunt.

But it wasn't that part of it that made me weepy.  She had told him that she only wanted to receive a dozen red roses when a guy loved her enough to propose. So at each "station" there were a few roses. And at the end he had the 12th. That part of it just made me cry (but happy).
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 08:05:31 AM
As for pancakes... Hmmm... It's been a while since I've had some...  And at this point and time, I won't be having any until I get up to NYC in just 10 days!  Wow!  It really is just 10 days away!!!

*I'm still waiting for one set of tickets to arrive via the USPS.  I called Tele-charge last night, and they gave me the "back up" plan, should it turn out they were lost in the mail.  But back to more important matter... Pancakes!

When I was on the road - or at least near a location - I loved going to Perkins and getting pancakes.  I'm actually very fond of their version of potato pancakes - it's kind of like a very-oversized hash-brown patty - well, THREE very-oversized hash-brown patties.  Hmm... Could that be why I put on weight while I was on the road?  Nah! ;)  I also like their trio of syrups.

In NYC, I've had pancakes at assorted diners, as well as the overpriced, but very light and dee-lish, ones at Sarabeth's.

In Richmond, there's Aunt Sarah's which has good pancakes - when there are good cooks in the kitchen.  I used to go there at 3:00 in the morning and get their potato pancakes - which were more like latkes - and not a bad version of latkes.  I'm also partial to the blueberry pancakes at Third Street Diner - and they always use fresh blueberries in season.  I miss the "hotcakes" at the now closed John & Norman's - such a good, cheap breakfast.

Growing up, my dad used to make some pretty tasty pancakes, and he would always have the small saucepan warming on a burner with syrup and butter in it.  My friend, Steve, makes some pretty good pancakes too.  Hmmm...

-At least I've had my eggs and ham for the morning, so all this talk of pancakes isn't making me too crazy.

And I'm still "amazed" that Bisquick makes very good pancakes.  I have tried some "from scratch" recipes, with my favorites being an oatmeal-apricot variation, and a sourdough-blueberry recipe that was one of the first recipes I ever remember coming across.

OH!  -Such memories...  I think I may have mentioned this before...  I would take day old pancakes - or even hours old pancakes - slather them in butter, and then put them in the toaster oven.  A few "light toast" cycles later, and voila!  Crispy and buttery!  And sooooo not healthy... Ah, well...  Oh, and sometimes I would put sugar on them too and end up "brulee-ing" them - of course, I didn't know what "brulee" meant at that time in my culinary life.

OK - I need to stop...  Next topic?  Maple Syrup?  Grade A or Grade B?

-Myself, I'm a grade B fan.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: td on January 04, 2004, 08:06:19 AM
If you can track it down, there is a lovely version of Peter Allen's autobiographical song about the Saddler, done by Olivia Newton-John and Peter himself.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Kerry on January 04, 2004, 08:09:08 AM
For those of you who may remember such things:

If you could "pinch an inch," were you supposed to join the Metrical for Lunch Bunch, or was it a Special K ad?

Amazing what the mind dredges up in the middle of the night, isdn't it?!?!?!?!! ???
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 08:09:08 AM
DR Jennifer-

OH - Do we need to put "Y&R Talk" at the top of our posts now?  ;)

Has Heather Tom really left the show?  Or is her character just taking one of those "vacations" that soap opera characters seem to take?  And do you think that she'll come back as Britney Spears?  hehe...

And where's Billy now, Heather's really cute brother?
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 08:14:08 AM
DR Kerry - I believe "pinch an inch" was for Special K.  And thinking back, I still don't think that made Special K more of a "man's cereal" - it always had a very feminine appeal - and I think it was marketed toward women initially anyway, wasn't it?

And since that commercial campaign started when I was in grade school, all of us "kids" going around pinching each other's inch - or inches.  -Hmm... Don't go there, TCB!  I even think that due to some repeated "teasing" from my cousin, Richard, I - and my parents - had thought I had developed some sort of kidney or stomach condition.  But, it was just a bruise from all the pinching.  Oy vey!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: td on January 04, 2004, 08:25:57 AM
Oh, great! Now everyone is going to be talking about INCHES on HHW!
Pinched or otherwise.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on January 04, 2004, 08:32:26 AM
BK et al:

I just started reading SONDHEIM ON MUSIC by MARK EDEN HOROWITZ.
In that Book Sondheim is quoted on songs that he wished he'd written.

"Some songs,I chose because they have enormous freshness and invention,for example SILVERWARE,which I suspect most of you don't know,but which is one of the most extraordinarily unusual songs ever written."

The song by the way is from WE TAKE THE TOWN with Music by Harold Carr and Lyrics by Matt Dubey and starred Robert Preston.A Flop!

My question to you BK is since you recorded that song on your  UNSUNG MUSICALS do you agree with Mr. Sondheim's appraisal? And does anyone out there have the lyrics to that song?
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jay on January 04, 2004, 08:42:22 AM
Good morning, Dear Readers!

I'll be heading to the County of Orange today for a luncheon/matinee date with my mother.  We will be seeing The Last 5 Years in its California premiere production, featuring Kim Huber and Rick Cornette, at the Laguna Playhouse.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 04, 2004, 08:45:59 AM
I think I first saw the Sondheim wish-list in the NY Times Magazine (on Sondheim's 70th birthday?). I never really understood why "Silverware" (though fun) made the cut. (Of course, it was his list, not mine; but I couldn't see him picking it.) What seemed a little too obvious, though, was that there wasn't a single Jerry Herman song on the long and eclectic list.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 04, 2004, 08:49:05 AM
After Jerry Herman's gloating little jabs about "hummable show tunes" at the 1984 Tonys (though Herman declares in his autobiography that it wasn't meant as a slight against Sondheim), I'm not surprised Sondheim didn't pick anything by him.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jrand73 on January 04, 2004, 09:06:12 AM
Yes DR JOSE - DR KERRY is correct - pinch an inch was for Special K!

I don't have TIVO either.  And I don't think Goodlife is on DIRECTtv, at least it's not on mine.  So I get care packages now and then from DR MBARNUM.  I certainly enjoyed 77 Sunset Strip much better when they were detectives in LA than when they decided to be spies going around the world....which was in reality just another part of the WB lot, obviously.

Enjoy the show DRJAY!

And you know, DRMATTH - no matter what Mr Herman may say - he was taking a jab at Sondheim, and even I - sitting out here in Indiana when he said it - knew that he was.  
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Emily on January 04, 2004, 09:09:48 AM
Good morning, Dear Readers!

I'll be heading to the County of Orange today for a luncheon/matinee date with my mother.  We will be seeing The Last 5 Years in its California premiere production, featuring Kim Huber and Rick Cornette, at the Laguna Playhouse.

Jay I am so jealous of you!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Matt H. on January 04, 2004, 09:11:08 AM
77 SUNSET STRIP was the show with the highest "cool" factor when I was going to elementary school. All the guys were so handsome, suave, and hip. I do need to tune in the reruns to see if it brings back any memories.

BTW, anyone remember the classy mystery series BURKE'S LAW? He became a secret agent during that show's last year on the air, too (changed the title to AMOS BURKE SECRET AGENT, I believe), but the early years with a cast of guest star suspects each week were the most fun.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Matt H. on January 04, 2004, 09:14:24 AM
"And you know, DRMATTH - no matter what Mr Herman may say - he was taking a jab at Sondheim, and even I - sitting out here in Indiana when he said it - knew that he was.  "


I agree complete.y That Tony telecast was one of the ugliest awards ceremonies I've ever seen. It was obvious there were two camps - the Herman/LA CAGE group and the Sondheim/SUNDAY IN THE PARK group vying for recognition, and comments from winners seemed acid-edged all night long.

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Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 09:15:01 AM
DR Jennifer-

OH - Do we need to put "Y&R Talk" at the top of our posts now?  ;)

Has Heather Tom really left the show?  Or is her character just taking one of those "vacations" that soap opera characters seem to take?  And do you think that she'll come back as Britney Spears?  hehe...

And where's Billy now, Heather's really cute brother?

Yes I think we may need to put soap talk at the top of our posts, so the rest of the DRs don't die of boredom!

Heather Tom is gone. She moved to NYC and will not be coming back (she's actually on OLTL, although I have not seen her on that show).  Her real life brother, who played Billy, also left the show a while back (and his replacement Billy has also left). I'm not sure where David Tom is. I did like him.

DR Jose: I should not be speaking to you right now. Because all that talk of pancakes is driving me crazy. I LOVE blueberry pancakes a lot.

It's funny but I have not eaten fruit in like a month. And I don't even crave it. But when you said pancakes, all I could think of was blueberry pancakes.

I'm not even sure if they have pancake type restaurants here (there must be some that do serve them). We don't have anything like the IHOP.  Maybe DRs Emily and Andrea can advise me.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 09:19:17 AM
Good morning, Dear Readers!

I'll be heading to the County of Orange today for a luncheon/matinee date with my mother.  We will be seeing The Last 5 Years in its California premiere production, featuring Kim Huber and Rick Cornette, at the Laguna Playhouse.

I am jealous, jealous, jealous. And I was just gonna say that DR Emily is probably turning green now (then I glanced down and saw her post).

Okay we are the jealous girls.

Have fun. And tell us EVERYTHING!
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Post by: Emily on January 04, 2004, 09:21:56 AM
I'm not even sure if they have pancake type restaurants here (there must be some that do serve them). We don't have anything like the IHOP.  Maybe DRs Emily and Andrea can advise me.

I don't think we have any pure "pancake houses" but there are a lot of breakfasty places like Chez Cora, not to mention non-chains which serve great brunches.

For example, I am off to Restaurant B&M with my family right now for brunch - maybe I'll indulge in some pancakes!

Oh Jenn btw... for your Atkins-y self, when I was in NY I was absolutely AMAZED at how institutionalized low-carbs food has become.  Not only were there Atkins-friendly food aisles in pharmacies, but diners/restaurants/delis also often made reference to their food being low-carb.

Clearly there are a LOT of people following this guy... I feel for the bread makers of the world!  :(
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 09:25:37 AM
Well... I'm off to the land of Camelot for the last time...

See you all after the party...
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 09:32:57 AM
I don't think we have any pure "pancake houses" but there are a lot of breakfasty places like Chez Cora, not to mention non-chains which serve great brunches.

Oh yeah I forgot about the Chez Cora type places. There are a few out here. But I never eat there!

DR Emily also wrote:
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Oh Jenn btw... for your Atkins-y self, when I was in NY I was absolutely AMAZED at how institutionalized low-carbs food has become.  Not only were there Atkins-friendly food aisles in pharmacies, but diners/restaurants/delis also often made reference to their food being low-carb.

Clearly there are a LOT of people following this guy... I feel for the bread makers of the world!  :(

Wow, how cool. I wish we had more of that here. Although I was so happy to see a Subway commercial last week (they have new ATKINS WRAPS with low carbs that I want to try).

I really do feel a lot better in the last month.  But my big resolution is to exercise more.

Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jay on January 04, 2004, 09:39:28 AM
Dear Readers Emily and Jennifer--

I cannot fathom at all why you two would be jealous that I am having lunch with my mother today.

  ;D
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 09:50:26 AM
Dear Readers Emily and Jennifer--

I cannot fathom at all why you two would be jealous that I am having lunch with my mother today.

  ;D

Yep and since she's going to the show with you we are jealous of her too :)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jane on January 04, 2004, 10:04:52 AM
77 SUNSET STRIP was the show with the highest "cool" factor when I was going to elementary school. All the guys were so handsome, suave, and hip. I do need to tune in the reruns to see if it brings back any memories.

BTW, anyone remember the classy mystery series BURKE'S LAW? He became a secret agent during that show's last year on the air, too (changed the title to AMOS BURKE SECRET AGENT, I believe), but the early years with a cast of guest star suspects each week were the most fun.

I watched BURKE’S LAW, however don’t remember the name change.  I had to look it up.  I also liked Gene Berry in BAT MATTERSON.  

I never missed an episode of 77 SUNSET STRIP.
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Post by: Jane on January 04, 2004, 10:07:20 AM
TIVO stays on all the time, constantly working for your viewing satisfaction.  

Nice pic George.

Echo is waiting for her walk in the snow covered fields.  I would prefer to go back to sleep.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jason on January 04, 2004, 10:39:17 AM
Ms. Britney Spears is married. I just read it on AOL so it must be true! She and her childhood friend apparently got hitched in Las Vegas as a joke, and now she's going to try to have the marriage annulled. Oy.

I'm off to my friend's house to watch some movies...rainy day movies--THE COLOR PURPLE, STEEL MAGNOLIAS, THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS and perhaps AUNTIE MAME. Yes, I'm the one providing all of these films, obviously, but I don't mind...I love all of those films.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 10:46:52 AM
Quite a few songs on Mr. Sondheim's wish list were recorded by me way prior to that list being written, and a few of them he heard for the first time on my recordings.  But he was kind enough to send me the music to the She Loves Me cut song (Tell Me I Look Nice) which he told me I should definitely do.  Like Silverware, it's a nice song but one wonders why he would have wanted to write it.  

George: I went to school with Lorraine Feather and see her from time to time.  She also sings one track on the Sweeney Todd in Jazz album I did with Terry Trotter.  I loved working with her because she's the only singer ever who brought her own mic with her.  Very talented, and, of course, her father was Leonard Feather, who wrote many many books and articles on jazz.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: DERBRUCER on January 04, 2004, 10:50:44 AM
Oh, great! Now everyone is going to be talking about INCHES on HHW!
Pinched or otherwise.


And we have BK playing with his TIVO!

O Tempore, O Mores!

der dirty-minded Brucer
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: DERBRUCER on January 04, 2004, 10:56:07 AM
Wow! More pictures from Mars!

When I was in HS, a group of us attempted to form an extra-curricular club called "The Rocket Society" - an off-shoot of our HS Astronomy Club. We were denied permission  because Rocketry was considered a frivolous fantasy, unworthy of serious student interest. However, a few months after I entered college, the Russians had launched Sputnik, and a month before I graduated, we had our first man in Space. "Frivolous Fantasy" Indeed!

My eariest memories of Mars:

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2995020/41892109.jpg)

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2995020/41892089.jpg)

der Brucer
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 11:03:08 AM
No one has yet answered my important Tivo question - is this thing supposed to just be ON all the time.  There is no power switch anywhere that I can see, so I'm guessing the answer is yes.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 04, 2004, 11:04:38 AM
"And you know, DRMATTH - no matter what Mr Herman may say - he was taking a jab at Sondheim, and even I - sitting out here in Indiana when he said it - knew that he was.  "


I agree completely That Tony telecast was one of the ugliest awards ceremonies I've ever seen. It was obvious there were two camps - the Herman/LA CAGE group and the Sondheim/SUNDAY IN THE PARK group vying for recognition, and comments from winners seemed acid-edged all night long.





That's pretty sad. But it's interesting that both Angela Lansbury and Bernadette Peters had starring roles in their musicals (with a TV musical thrown in there); also, that both actresses have appeared in Gypsy revivals.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: td on January 04, 2004, 11:16:47 AM
No one has yet answered my important Tivo question - is this thing supposed to just be ON all the time.  There is no power switch anywhere that I can see, so I'm guessing the answer is yes.

Dear Reader Jane DID answer your question. (see above).
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 11:28:37 AM
Oops (spoo spelled backwards) you're right.  Jane did answer my question and for some reason my eye went right past it to the sentence about Echo.  I guess that's known as The Echo Effect.

That's very exciting to know that Tivo is on all the time.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: S. Woody White on January 04, 2004, 11:42:13 AM
der dirty-minded Brucer
We would be on opposite coasts just now, when I've got a taste for pancakes!  With whom am I supposed to share, the pack?  *sigh*
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: LC on January 04, 2004, 11:43:14 AM
Good morning afternoon!  I think like Sarah and others who have been on vacation for a while, I have fallen into a bad sleep cycle and am going to have trouble waking up to go to work tomorrow.

I don't have TIVO, but I have the cheap version they call DVR (digital video recorder) and I love it!  No more forgetting to set the VCR for me.  Can you also play back TIVO and tape it on the VCR, if you want?

A funny thing happened last night - I went out to dinner with some friends at a family-style Italian restaurant here in NYC, and after dessert, one person got his sleeve too close to the candle on the table and ended up catching on fire!  These thin strings of flame suddenly appeared on his sweater and started moving up over his body.  But.. he didn't even realize this and he says he didn't even feel the heat.  The two people sitting next to him started beating his sweater frantically, trying to put out the flames.  He had no idea why they were suddenly hitting him.  Once the fire was out, we all laughed uncontrollably (out of surprise and relief, I think) and then realized that half the restaurant was staring at us.  ::) Most eventful dinner I've had in a while.

DRs Jose and Jennifer - I should out myself as a closet Y&R fan. ;)  I used to watch it every summer when I wasn't in school, and every once in a while I'll tune in.  I don't really follow the show anymore, but it's not hard to figure out what's been going on after you watch a couple of episodes.  I also ended up watching B&B when they moved Sheila over there years ago.

Jose - I live around the corner from Sarabeth's.  :D
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: S. Woody White on January 04, 2004, 11:46:30 AM
I just started reading SONDHEIM ON MUSIC by MARK EDEN HOROWITZ.
In that Book Sondheim is quoted on songs that he wished he'd written.
This has to be one of the most frustrating books I've ever read, simply because of the tech difficulty.  Don't get me wrong, lots of great info from the great man, but so much of it is written in tech code, which makes it very hard on us non-techies.  Which, in turn, makes it so much more satisfying!

Although I could have done without his including one of his lover's songs on his list.  That was a little too snuggle for my tastes.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: S. Woody White on January 04, 2004, 11:50:54 AM
BTW, anyone remember the classy mystery series BURKE'S LAW?
Of course I remember Burke's Law.  It was sort of an early Murder She Wrote as far as guest star lists, even pulling in Gypsy Rose Lee for one episode.  Too bad about the sequels (the spy nonsense and the "Son-of-Amos" retread).
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jrand73 on January 04, 2004, 11:54:40 AM
Yes, I too used to watch Y&R, I started decades ago....and was intrigued by the stories of the Foster and Brooks families.   Now of course it is all different.  All of my favorite stars and families are long gone, although I stuck with it through the late 1980's and early 1990's.  Now I will watch it now and then just to remind myself, that it still exists.  It's theme song is still lovely.

Mr BK on TCM this afternoon....THE SECRET LIFE OF WALTER MITTY!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: S. Woody White on January 04, 2004, 11:58:54 AM
Enough for now: I've got to get out of the house.  For one thing, I need the exercise.  For another, I've got to see about getting ahold of the owner/manager of a local eatery called the Purple Parrot, to let him know about some comments made about his place over at eGullet.  Somehow, it makes more sense when negative comments are made for them to be heard by someone who can react, and to give that person a chance to react.  This is particularly true since the comments on one plate were very positive, which means (to me) that this was not an internet acid injection.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 12:11:08 PM
DR Dan-in-Toronto: The two songs would indeed be considered Treasures. Allen was very "In" here for a short time in the 70's (very out with any one young!). His campness was sort of titillating to the Mums and Dads. "I Go To Rio" was major radio and sales hit. "I Still Call Australia Home" would be his best known song - more as a turntable hit than as a best selling recording. Qantas used the song for all its OZ promotions and still does. "Saddler" would be a close second as an OZ favourite. The Allen Brothers had a very minor hit "My Secret" in Melbourne in 1960. I think there were two other charted 45s in Sydney and Brisbane - they were never major stars. The successful "I Go To Rio" was followed by a cover of the Chris Montes "The More I See You" which would have reached the top 10 nationally. A couple of the Allen Lp's sold well in the 70's - on the strength of his hits and his dymanic life show. No way was he considered a National treasure himself (like Olivia and The Seekers) but everyone would know those songs.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Ann on January 04, 2004, 12:14:18 PM
Blue and cloudless (almost) skies here in Hawaii!!  
And I think we're having pancakes for breakfast, judging from the smells coming from the kitchen :)
Count me in as one who is gonna have a hard time going back to work on Friday at eight.  I've gotten into the habit of a 12 or 1 sleep time, and 9 or 10 awakening.  Doesn't sound too bad until you translate it back to west coast time, 2 or 3 and 11 or 12.  Oy!   well, that's why we invented alarm clocks.  
I forget who asked, but I'll answer...we THOUGHT we rented the extended DVD version of LOTR, but it turned out just to be the regular one.  Oh well...
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: S. Woody White on January 04, 2004, 12:20:05 PM
T'was I who asked, dear DR Ann.  The extended versions are well worth having in your collection.

Before I head out, I really should repeat my request to our exalted BK: could you provide, in words, a description of der Brucer and myself?  You are, after all, one of the few people who knows we are not one and the same, having met us both!  (The use of the word "sexy" is not required in describing me, but he might appreciate it!   ;D)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Emily on January 04, 2004, 12:31:30 PM
OMG

School starts again TOMORROW!!!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: MBarnum on January 04, 2004, 01:00:43 PM
 I don't think I have ever watched Y&R, but when I was in high school (late 70s early 80s) I was addicted to this sort of religious themed soap opera called ANOTHER LIFE which aired on that religious network whose name I think was CBN. It turned into The Family Channel at some point in history. Anyhow, the ANOTHER LIFE was a lot of fun and it starred Tom Urich, brother of Robert Urich.

I did briefly watch General Hospital while Matt Battaglia was appearing on it back in 1997 or so.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 04, 2004, 01:02:43 PM
DR Tomovoz: Thanks so much for the information on Peter Allen. It helps makes TBFO CD even more enjoyable.  
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 01:09:42 PM
Indeed a pleasure Dan. I guess you will be seeking out the cast recording of "Legs Diamond" now!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 04, 2004, 01:20:03 PM
BK - Goodtime Network is very strange.  I don't watch it all that much.  It's on 110 on my Aldelphia digital system.  I believe Tues. night is all the old Warner detective shows, Thurs. The Warner Cowboy shows, Wednesday is war night with Combat, Gallant Men, etc.  Though Combat seems to be shown a lot at odd hours.  At around ten pm or so, they used to show a lot of ballroom dancing competitions.  Weekends had some old Variety shows from the seventies, it seemed, stuff like Tony Orlando and Dawn.  During the day, they have this white-haired gent in suspenders who seems to be a jack-of-all-trades, does antique shows, cooking shows, hosts old, old "B" movies.  My pal Nick Clooney used to host the night-time Warner Bros. stuff, but since he is now running as a Democratic candidate for Congress in Kentucky, I don't know if he's still hosting.

Matt H., I remember and love Burke's Law, that would be a great show for some station like Good Times to revive.

To last night's late indirect assumption that I am a cynic because I dared to criticize some aspects of Lord of the Rings.  Well, I suppose all romantics and idealists inevitably become cynics in some ways, so I suppose I have to cop to it somewhat.  However, I don't think it true in this sense. The caveat has always been that I said I've generally enjoyed the films.  My complaints are quibbles.  Much of my six-thousand book library is made up fantasy novels, I can still thrill to and delight in the wonders of Ray Harryhausen's mythical faery tales, despite that their special effects now seem archaic next to LOTR.  My willing suspension of disbelief is still more than willing and I go into a film like LOTR rooting for it.

But that doesn't mean I abandoned totally every theatrical/dramatic instinct I've honed over a thirty year career as an actor, writer, scholar, occasional producer, and even occasional director...Sorry, for me, some of the scenes in Return have an emotional sameness to them, some of them try too hard to be a moment.  Movies have rhythms and up and downs, highs and lows.  Even a horror film or suspense film cannot sustain one mood throughout.  There have to be  moments of release and transition and shifting qualities.  

It's a chronic complaint I have with Spielberg too often...particularly on such films like A.I. and Empire of the Sun.   When you try to make every scene a moment...like I felt he did in those two films... you end up with no moments.  Because everything comes at you at the same pitch and level.  There is no variation.

This is not the case with Return of the King, for the most part, mind you, just every once in a while.  It will be very interesting to see all three put together though, because we have a lot of thos scenes in Two Towers ,as I remember.

Restraint, restraint, resist the urge to wring tears out of every scene, or heartbreak out of every scene, or laughs out of every scene.

Again, I invoke my Loesser quote:  "The heart must bleed, not slobber."  Sometimes "loess" is more!  

I think to suggest that, for me, Return of the King was a little too moist...does not make me a heartless, curmudgeonly cynic.  It just means it didn't work as completely for me as it did for you.

Panni...Yes, there's nothing worse than bad Tennessee Williams.  I remember having to sit through so many badly-interpreted Williams heroines in my acting classes at University because all these young actresses thought a southern accent was the easiest to do.  And even if the accent was easily accomplished, they forgot the complex Williams characters aren't the easiest to do.

Still, I don't think I've ever walked out of anything.  I'm always hoping that there might be something to justify the production coming up or, if nothing else, one can always learn from bad experiences.  But mostly, I feel I have no right to criticize something if I haven't seen it all the way through.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 01:25:23 PM

DRs Jose and Jennifer - I should out myself as a closet Y&R fan. ;)  I used to watch it every summer when I wasn't in school, and every once in a while I'll tune in.  I don't really follow the show anymore, but it's not hard to figure out what's been going on after you watch a couple of episodes.  I also ended up watching B&B when they moved Sheila over there years ago.


Hi LC! Glad you've come out of the closet! :)

And that fire story is funny, I guess (except for the guy whose sweater is ruined!).
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 01:33:25 PM
Okay am I to take it personally that nobody wants my cut off right arm? :)

Heck I offered to include the diamond rings on said arm.

Okay I'll just assume that none of your are avid Sex & The City addicts.

Btw, for some reason Walmart was super packed today. They were practically giving away Christmas stuff.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 01:35:10 PM
I'm glad to see all these closet soap watchers.  You guys should start watching again, so we can talk about it :)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 02:01:43 PM
I don't appear to get Goodtimes on Direct TV.  THAT'S the stupid thing with all these various cable companies - some have good stuff that the others don't have.  I mean, I have lots of good stuff on Direct TV, but I wouldn't mind having that Warners channel.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Donald on January 04, 2004, 02:21:27 PM
the brand spanking new Broadway Radio Show is now up and running -- ENJOY!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Matt H. on January 04, 2004, 02:22:43 PM
I've never had a dish but TimeWarner Cable here in Charlotte is infamous for adding new channels without much prior announcement. One just sort of stumbles across them while surfing the channel guide. They even added some high definition channels and didn't bother including the info in their monthly statement until they had been running two months. Luckily, a friend had alerted me to their having been added days after they were.

I forgot to check for the GoodTime network while I was watching CHARLIE BROWN'S ALL-STARS a little while ago, but I'll remember to check when I go back downstairs later to prepare for my evening viewing.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 02:31:27 PM
A new radio show!  Get your butt cheeks and butt ears ready and give it a listen!  And how many of you still haven't read Miss Stephanie J. Block's interview?  I want a hand count.  And for those who haven't, whaddaya think we're taking the time to do these things for?  Bitch-slapping a'comin' soon, I feel it.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: LC on January 04, 2004, 02:33:21 PM
Very well said, DR Charles.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jrand73 on January 04, 2004, 02:41:02 PM
All of the rain left DRAnn in Hawaii and came to Indiana...all day today...and all day tomorrow.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jrand73 on January 04, 2004, 02:41:17 PM
Oh and all day yesterday as well.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 02:44:24 PM
A wonderful way to start my day. Parcels at the Post Office from DRs. The joyous season is still very much with us.  A public announcement of thanks. Private thanks are of course just that!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 04, 2004, 02:46:05 PM
Another reason I look forward to the extended LOTR versions is that I'm hoping some of the cut material, when restored, will level out the lopsided scenes and balance things more.  You know if you have a cut scene with Sam and Frodo between two crying scenes, maybe it doesn't look like as much crying as it did when the crying scenes were slammed together with no buffer.

I just got off the phone with a mate of mine who has read the books four times and just came back from the movie (which he loved, by the by); but he was telling me about stuff in the books that is not in the movie...and I'm going:  "I'd have liked to have seen that scene. " Maybe that's the stuff that will be in the extended versions.  
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jrand73 on January 04, 2004, 02:50:50 PM
Finally - the first pictures from the surface of

MARS

Interesting!

Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jed on January 04, 2004, 02:57:09 PM
I think I first saw the Sondheim wish-list in the NY Times Magazine (on Sondheim's 70th birthday?). I never really understood why "Silverware" (though fun) made the cut. (Of course, it was his list, not mine; but I couldn't see him picking it.) What seemed a little too obvious, though, was that there wasn't a single Jerry Herman song on the long and eclectic list.

Just my tastes, but I really doubt I'd include any Jerry Herman on such a list either.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Matt H. on January 04, 2004, 02:57:37 PM
BK, you're so harsh with us. You must have the ability to see how many hits the interview has had. How do you know we haven't read it? (I read and enjoyed it, but I don't think I ever got around to mentioning it here.)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jed on January 04, 2004, 03:07:40 PM
I guess my body has just decided recently that it doesn't need much more than 3 hours of sleep.  Last night, yet again, I was awake until the Simbulan-ic hour of 6am.  Simply was not tired at all.  Woke up just after 9 and feel just fine and/or dandy today.  Good enough for me. :)  Oh, and I did manage to catch Double Indemnity at about 4am.  Still a very enjoyable film, says I.

Now I shall continue to grieve the Seahawks overtime loss... :(
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jed on January 04, 2004, 03:09:52 PM
Oh, and I have also read the current interview.  I'm a good boy, I am.  And shall listen to the new Broadway Radio Show later today or tomorrow.

And I've also surpassed 400 posts!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 03:13:14 PM
Love the "Simbulanic Hour" DR Jed. It means more to us Washingtonians I guess.
Re the Sondheim list: Horse and courses as you would day but as much as I can enjoy the work of Mr Herman on a "feel good" basis, they would not make a list of mine either.  
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jrand73 on January 04, 2004, 03:17:49 PM
I enjoy a lot of Mr Herman's work, but it turns out that some of his songs I like, well, they were written by uncredited others.  But he is a snappy dresser!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 03:25:06 PM
Hey did DRs Andrea and Ann switch places? I'll bet DR Andrea wishes she was in Hawaii :)

As do I.

Anybody see Trading Spaces yesterday? Rick actually did his first decent room (a red and brown luxury master bedroom).  And Laurie did a really nice den/exercise room. Although that wall she built would make me totally claustrophobic. I think she should have put up a screen instead.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 04, 2004, 03:32:05 PM
"Put On Your Sunday Clothes" would make my list. No doubt Sondheim was being honest in his compilation; but it struck me that he was also aiming to be generous and inclusive in the spirit of his birthday, acknowledging Strouse and Adams, Kander and Ebb, Bock and Harnick, Coleman and Leigh, Shire and Maltby, Bob Merrill, and Silverware (along with Porter, Berlin, Styne, Bernstein, Loesser, Gershwin, Kern, Rodgers and Hammerstein/Hart).

(www.sunday-in-the-park.com/sondheim/wishiwrote.html)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jrand73 on January 04, 2004, 04:05:54 PM
Oops!  Sorry!

Yes, liked both the rooms yesterday, DRJENNIFER.  And I think a screen would have been better.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jane on January 04, 2004, 04:06:54 PM
Dear Reader Jane DID answer your question. (see above).

You get karma for noticing.  Thank you. :)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jed on January 04, 2004, 04:12:12 PM
Hey did DRs Andrea and Ann switch places? I'll bet DR Andrea wishes she was in Hawaii :)

As do I.

How kind of you to also wish Andrea were in Hawaii. :D
Unless you're just trying to get her out of the country for some reason...
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Matt H. on January 04, 2004, 04:16:53 PM
I'm going to try for LOVE ME TONIGHT now. If not tonight, definitely tomorrow!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jane on January 04, 2004, 04:18:14 PM
LC with TIVO you can transfer to VCR or DVD.

Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: William E. Lurie on January 04, 2004, 04:19:34 PM
Sorry I have been E&T this weekend, but I have been sick as a dog (actually the dog was in excellent health - where does that phrase come from?).  I will catch up on reading notes and posts tomorrow, but I have spent the last two days mostly sleeping.  I'm feeling better now but want to conserve my strength.  I knew a certain person should not have come to work last week as sick as he was.  At least mine was over a weekend so I should be able to work tomorrow.  I was feeling fine when I left work Friday but it hit me Friday night when we were at the theatre watching Helen Gallagher.  If it wasn't so good (I'll report tomorrow) I would have left at intermission, and the three blocks both  to the subway from the theatre and home from the subway were pure agony.  Fortunately the sleep helped a lot.  I'll be back tomorrow.  
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: td on January 04, 2004, 04:20:20 PM
I simply adore being struck by the Karma Fairy(ies).

Well, I'm off to our restaurant's Holiday Party, where I shall imbibe maybe one or two Absoluts before coming home and reading up on the script for tomorrow's call-back.
Will there be a chat?
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: MBarnum on January 04, 2004, 04:22:55 PM
I have just discovered that LE GIRLS is NOT my favorite musical motion picture. I bought the DVD the other day and decided that a lazy Sunday afternoon would be a perfect time to watch a colorful Gene Kelly musical. Uhg. I am only through 2/3 of the movie and it is dull, dull, dull...I don't care for the actresses in it, the songs are not terribly exciting, and so far, neither are the dance numbers. I do enjoy looking and listening to Jacques Bergerac, but he alone was not worth the $14.99.

Don't you hate it when you shell out money for a DVD of a film that you have never seen, but you mistakenly believe you will enjoy...and then you realize after you have finished watching it that you would very likely never pop it into your DVD player again?
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jane on January 04, 2004, 04:25:16 PM
We finally got out to the movies today.  We saw SOMETHING’S GOTTA GIVE, a fun, albeit predictable romantic comedy.  :) I especially enjoyed Diane Keaton’s performance.  She looked great too.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jane on January 04, 2004, 04:28:21 PM
WEL feel better soon.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jrand73 on January 04, 2004, 04:30:00 PM
DRMBARNUM maybe you can trade it or sell it on EBAY!


GET WELL VIBES TO WEL:

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Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 04:32:41 PM
I know all.  I am the all-knowing, all-seeing ALL.  I know who's been naughty and I know who's been nice.

Furthermore, I'm about to attempt to configure a wireless Internet card, so that if I take my laptop to the office or to a hotel, I can tap into their systems without having to go through an ethernet card or their phone.  Hoo and ray - although I haven't configured and/or tried yet.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 04, 2004, 04:37:53 PM
Well, I see I have offended someone.  A Karma point has been taken away.  Probably my cruel and unwarranted remarks made against a beloved film we are not allowed to criticize.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: MBarnum on January 04, 2004, 04:39:20 PM
DRMBARNUM maybe you can trade it or sell it on EBAY!

It will go into my trade in pile. I should have bought SILK STOCKINGS instead!

Actually I just wish that the musicals that I really love would come out on DVD...FLOWER DRUM SONG, APRIL IN PARIS, BY THE LIGHT OF THE SILVERY MOON, STAND UP AND CHEER, SUMMER STOCK...then I would be mighty pleased!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 04:41:50 PM
Pay no attention to that man behind the karma points.  Karma points are meaningless in the scheme of things.  Those who've been doing the taking away should think twice about doing so.  It's really pointless, and just because someone disagrees with you.  Given the fact that there is no finer place on the Internet in which opinions can be given back and forth, and interesting discussion on said opinions can be given honestly but NOT disrespectfully, well, then I guess I just don't "get" someone wanting to remove a karma point.  But, once again, the karma points are meaningless anyway, so worry not, care not, for we shall laugh and laugh.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: LC on January 04, 2004, 04:43:04 PM
Thanks Jane!

I see I have been booed too - probably for praising DR Charles's remarks.  Oh well.

DR WEL, hope you feel better.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 04, 2004, 04:47:29 PM
I see the Karma Faery has not only restored my lost point, but I now have an extra one that I did not have before.  Ah, joy, ah rapture!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: DERBRUCER on January 04, 2004, 04:51:03 PM
I now all.  I am the all-knowing, all-seeing ALL.  I know who's been naughty and I know who's been nice.


You now all! Well, Carnac, I suspect you meant "know all" but your "k" finger was stuck.

"Bruce immel - nows all, sees all!"

(http://www.luckymojo.com/blueeye.gif)

der Brucer (who's been both naughty and nice - but hates bragging!)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jrand73 on January 04, 2004, 04:55:39 PM
No one liked my Martian photo.   :'(
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Sandra on January 04, 2004, 04:59:02 PM
I need to post this picture on the Internet so the people at ratingpets.com can copy it to their website and people can vote on how cute my cat is.

I don't have much else to say. I've spent the day sitting on my futon and drinking Cherry Coke. Oh, and I watched BK's episode of M*A*S*H.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jrand73 on January 04, 2004, 05:00:53 PM
Karma for Joshie and DR Sandra.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: DERBRUCER on January 04, 2004, 05:22:33 PM

  And how many of you still haven't read Miss Stephanie J. Block's interview?  I want a hand count.  And for those who haven't, whaddaya think we're taking the time to do these things for?  Bitch-slapping a'comin' soon, I feel it.

Well, you shamed me into it! I read that wonderful interview wherein you grilled the poor girl with your relentless badgering to "hold nothing back" - no doubt conducted with a bright gestapo light and sodium pentathol at the ready.

It's too bad you held back on the proofing!

You published: "I knew the light at the end of the tunnel was to far off."

Now, dear BK, a homophone is not a gay communication device! Surely the learned lady said "too far off" and not "to far off".

der Naughty and Nice Brucer
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: DERBRUCER on January 04, 2004, 05:31:31 PM
Finally - the first pictures from the surface of

MARS

Interesting!



And now, the second picture:

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2995020/41940909.jpg)

Different strokes for different folks!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 04, 2004, 05:32:50 PM
Well, I see I have offended someone.  A Karma point has been taken away.  Probably my cruel and unwarranted remarks made against a beloved film we are not allowed to criticize.

Well I certainly hope none of my comments have suggested that you are not allowed to criticize TROTK.  My comments were, in fact, reactions to your criticisms, but were opinions of my own, and certainly no more valid than yours.  

However, your commentaries about the film have inspired rebuttals, and that is all I thought they were.  
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: MBarnum on January 04, 2004, 05:38:15 PM
No one liked my Martian photo.   :'(

JRand53, I couldn't quite make out who was in your Mars photo...on my computer she was too small...however, I DID recognize the lad in DERBrucers photo! LOL! He couldn't be small on ANY computer, as I recall! LOL!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: TCB on January 04, 2004, 05:38:37 PM
Finished my Christmas celebrating today. Long and traditional story. A group of friends (of decades standing) now celebrates Christmas - presents and all - the first week of the New Year when there are no family and work pressures. We have a terrific time. I put the Christmas tree away tomorrow! We gave up satelite TV a few months ago. All those channels we never watch.  The dish remains. A chance to once again plug the Oz movie "The Dish".

I was going to get a dish, but on my budget, all I could afford was Melmac!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 04, 2004, 05:44:16 PM
Personally, when does one give a "boo", if not when disagreeing with someone? Why have a applaud/boo button, if that's not what's it for?  Otherwise, are we booing just out sheer capriciousness?...Not that I've ever booed anyone here...at least not with the karma button.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Robin on January 04, 2004, 05:45:25 PM
I've no inclination for the whole Dish/TiVO thing.  I only watch a handful of teevee shows, and I have no intention of adding anything more into the routine.  So I'm perfectly happy with the cable teevee service I've got; it gets Turner Classic Movies, which is good enough for moi.  

Went to see the dreadful movie PAYCHECK today.  It wasn't even junky fun like most John Woo films; just a retread version of TOTAL RECALL.  Which didn't even need to be retreaded to begin with.  Ben Affleck looked awful cute though; Uma Thurman, on the other hand, just looked awful.  

I've been listening to both the WICKED and AVENUE Q discs since getting them for Christmas...is it blasphemous to admit I like AVENUE Q better?  I simply adore Kristin Chenoweth, though.  I saw her perform with the NYC Gay Men's Chorus a few years ago at Carnegie Hall, and fell madly in idolation of her...her solo CD is a regular listening pleasure, but the WICKED disc just isn't getting my juices flowing.  

AVENUE Q, though, is a disc I find myself strangely drawn to.  
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: MBarnum on January 04, 2004, 05:45:32 PM
Well, I have never seen TROTK, so I cannot comment on any criticism or praise of it...but, now if you want to discuss the filmography of Doug McClure...!! LOL!

So no one but myself watched ANOTHER LIFE from 1981 to 1984? Well...that does seem likely!  :o
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: MBarnum on January 04, 2004, 05:47:13 PM
I was going to get a dish, but on my budget, all I could afford was Melmac!

TCB you made me guffaw so hard I think I hurt myself! LOL!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Panni on January 04, 2004, 05:53:40 PM
DR Pogue - I admire your fortitude in never having walked out on a theatrical performance. I used to be that way, but I find these days that my tolerance level is not great - neither is my back. So to sit through three acts of something that I REALLY disliked one act of is a little too altruistic for my taste. On the other hand, I do agree with you that one has no right to criticize something not seen all the way though. So I'll amend my initial remark and say that Tennessee Williams badly done (in the first act) is painful.

Had a wonderful reunion this afternoon with an Indian cinematographer - now director - with whom I worked on many films in Canada. In one of those strange six-degrees-of-separation occurrences, I was at a Hanukah party given by my landlady for her family, when this man's name came up. When I said I'd known him in Canada I was told that he and his family had just moved here. I got in touch - and this afternoon we met for the first time in almost 20 years. We had a splendid talk and he said something I'll treasure.  He travels a great deal and just came back for a few days to help his wife with the children, before heading back to Canada. But as it turned out he wasn't really needed, she had everything under control. He said, "I was wondering why I came here. And now I know. It was to see you today."
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jay on January 04, 2004, 05:58:59 PM
I rather enjoy the informed discussion (and it is most informed here) that takes place at HHW about film, theatre and music.  If you look at yesterday's/today's discussion, you saw quite a bit of in-depth and objective commentary about TLOTR:  TROTK that went far beyond the simplistic "I liked it" or "I didn't like it."  Even though some Dear Readers had more quibbles with the film than others, there was no flaming and no disrespect shown (the unseemly removal of karma points notwithstanding.)

All of which reminds me of something I meant to post yesterday in the context of Dear BK's story about posts being removed and his being banished from some other site.  I appreciate very much that BK does not censor posts here.  (That is, unless they put us into C  i  n  e  r  a  m  a.)  I appreciate even more the courtesy and restraint shown by my fellow Dear Readers, even when widely divergent opinions are being aired.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jay on January 04, 2004, 06:09:23 PM
I've thought about walking out on a number of plays/shows I've seen, but with one exception, I've always stuck it out in the hope that things improve in Act II.  In some cases, I've figured it couldn't get worse.  (Oh, a Cole Porter reference.)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Panni on January 04, 2004, 06:13:21 PM
I just read yesterday's posts. Funny. (Not the serious ones, of course.) I'll try not to be too busy in the future to dry my hair and post.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Michael on January 04, 2004, 06:21:34 PM
Well I am back up and running. My new bed and bureau arrived yesterday. The carpet and tile people came and took their measurements. The painter got ill and ended up in the hospital and had to reschedule. Put together my desk and computer after moving to another part of the room. Still looking for new book cases and cd shelving to match the new decor. Got some wonderful stuff at The Pottery Barn. Never realized what nice things they have.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Michael on January 04, 2004, 06:32:14 PM
talking of hi def tv and all that my local cable provider adel[hia has it but only three stations are hi def  nbc, abc an showtime. not really an insentive to get it, is it?
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jay on January 04, 2004, 06:32:52 PM
The production of The Last 5 Years I saw today was quite good!

I've had the CD for a while, so I walked in fairly familiar with the show's music.  On the whole, I do like the score, though I think the lighter-hearted numbers, such as "Shiksa Goddess," "The Schmuel Song," "A Summer in Ohio," and the audition song (when Cathy provides running commentary on what's going on around her) are somewhat more successful and memorable than the darker songs in the play.  The wedding duet, bookended by each character's perspective on the scene in the rowboat on Central Park Lake is most effective (and romantic!)

I know some people have not been too keen on the central conceit--they would call it "gimmick"--of this show, in that the male character's story is told in forward progression and the female's in reverse.  I, for one, like it for its novelty, and even more so for the balance it provides over the course of the play.  If both characters' stories were told in forward progression, it would make for a mighty--and increasingly--depressing ninety minutes in the theatre, in my humble opinion (IMHO, in internet lingo.)

Until today, I was unaware how little dialogue there is in the play.  As such, it comes off as a staged song cycle or two-character chamber opera in the theatre.  The sets in this production were quite minimal, with two chairs the only constant elements on the raked platform of a playing area.  Physical locations and stages in the relationship between Jamie and Cathy were established with costumes, lighting (including some projections) and the occasional prop.  I found the production quite effective.

The intelligence of the orchestration struck me much more hearing this music played live in the theatre than when I listened to the CD.  The way some of the solo parts (especially for violin and cello) accented or colored what was being sung was memorable.  

Rick Cornette and Kim Huber were both superb as Jamie and Cathy.  Each of them has excellent vocal and acting ability, and they both are quite easy on the eye.

My only quibble, if I have one, is that Cathy's songs tended to be staged in rather static fashion, while the blocking for Jamie involved a fair amount of movement that generated engagement with the audience of itself.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: td on January 04, 2004, 06:40:44 PM
Well, I see I have offended someone.  A Karma point has been taken away.  Probably my cruel and unwarranted remarks made against a beloved film we are not allowed to criticize.

I can assure you, it wasn't my wand which wasted your karma points.
My Karmalisicous Wand is programmed only to give karma, never ever take karma away.
and a bibbidi-bobbidi-boo to you, too.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 06:46:06 PM
BK wrote:
Quote
Pay no attention to that man behind the karma points.  Karma points are meaningless in the scheme of things.  Those who've been doing the taking away should think twice about doing so.  It's really pointless, and just because someone disagrees with you.  Given the fact that there is no finer place on the Internet in which opinions can be given back and forth, and interesting discussion on said opinions can be given honestly but NOT disrespectfully, well, then I guess I just don't "get" someone wanting to remove a karma point.  But, once again, the karma points are meaningless anyway, so worry not, care not, for we shall laugh and laugh.

I will agree with Bruce for the most part.  I don't see the point in removing a point just because someone is opinionated.  Especially when they give their opinions in a respectful kind way.

Where I will disagree is that the karma points are meaningless. Yes, in the grand scheme of things of course they are.  But "booing" people hurts them (or upsets them, or however you want to put it). Why would anyone on this site want to hurt another person? It makes no sense.  I've been having a really hard time this past week and a half. And I come here for comfort (not to see jealousy or negative attitudes).  If someone here makes me angry, I sometimes just give them karma, because they probably need it.

Oh and DR Jay: Did Mother like the show?
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jennifer on January 04, 2004, 06:49:28 PM
Oh and BK have you watched anything on your tv yet?
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 06:56:32 PM
der Brucer: I don't KNOW what you're talking about - my post clearly says "KNOW" not "NOW"  ;D

I don't proof the Unseemly Interviews - Mr. Craig Brockman does that for me, and normally he does a good job, but on this interview he was busy and in a hurry and only used his spell check, hence the offending to/too.  

I just watched some Kennedy Center thing to Lily Tomlin.  Do they now do an Awards ceremony every week for someone?  

Naturally, I think I configured my wireless thing wrong.  It said to do the configuring automatically by clicking on a certain button when it came up.  The problem was that it also said to first insert the CDrom - as soon as I did that the screen with the button went away, so I did it manually and I had NO idea what they were talking about.  Is there a way to undo what I did and start over?  I'm actually not sure I did it wrong - perhaps I'll bring my laptop to work tomorrow to see if it works.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jane on January 04, 2004, 07:00:56 PM
I see the Karma Faery has not only restored my lost point, but I now have an extra one that I did not have before.  Ah, joy, ah rapture!

You have one more now too, LC as well.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Michael on January 04, 2004, 07:03:17 PM
The first few months will see alot of DVDs to be purchased by me

Babylon 5 (Season 4)
It Should Happen to You (My fav Judy Holliday film)
Barney Miller (Season 1) (One of my fav TV Series of all time)
Alice in Wonderland (Disney animee)
The Critic (complete series) a very funny animee series.
The Magic of Fellini (Love to know more about it)
One From the Heart (A bomb when released, but now???)
Time Bandits
The diary of anne Frank
Goodbye Mr. Chips (Robert DOnat)
Grand Hotel
My Fair Lady (hope it is a better transfer)
Planet of the Apes (2 disc 35th Annivesary edition)
Return to Oz (if its full screen. forget it)
HR Puffentstuff (complete series) a return to my childhood
One Million Years BC
Myra Breckinridge (Can't resite it. hope i is the original x)
The Disney Treasures (Donald, Mickey, War YEars)
Duel
Lord of the Rings
Forbidden Planet
meet me In St. Louis
THX 1138
King Kong
Ed Wood

I am sure there will be others out. But this is not a bad start
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jay on January 04, 2004, 07:05:12 PM
Oh and DR Jay: Did Mother like the show?

Indeed, she did, Dear Reader Jennifer.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 07:06:28 PM
Can someone confirm that Curb Your Enthusiasm is on at 9:30 on the West Coast.  I was flipping the HBO channels and it was already running at six-thirty.  I shut it off the minute I saw it was on.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jane on January 04, 2004, 07:06:33 PM
Went to see the dreadful movie PAYCHECK today.  It wasn't even junky fun like most John Woo films; just a retread version of TOTAL RECALL.  Which didn't even need to be retreaded to begin with.  Ben Affleck looked awful cute though; Uma Thurman, on the other hand, just looked awful.  

 



I am so glad we skiped it today.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Michael on January 04, 2004, 07:08:06 PM
Oh yes.

Not for me, but for my pal TD

Angel Season Three Street date 2/10/04

(http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/upcomingdvdart/0210/angels3dvd.jpg)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jane on January 04, 2004, 07:14:17 PM
Sandra your cat is very cute.  What is her/his name?

Panni you have such interesting stories.

Jennifer you are so sweet.  

I still believe the boos are only mistakes.  Not that I have done it, but if I were to accidentally boo someone, can I then give them a karma to replace the boo?  
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: td on January 04, 2004, 07:16:33 PM
Oh yes.

Not for me, but for my pal TD

Angel Season Three Street date 2/10/04


You'd better believe it!
I've had to space out my ANGEL watching due to some of the crossover episodes with BUFFY!
ANGEL's 2nd Season (which I did NOT review for SCARLET STREET) ends at the same time as BUFFY SEASON FIVE, if I'm doing my math correctly.
I already have mediocre quality VCDs of ANGEL's 3rd season; it will be nice to be able to watch the anamorphically encoded dvd boxed set. . . 'tis the season wherein Angel becomes.  . . well, I'm not going to give THAT SECRET away!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: S. Woody White on January 04, 2004, 07:23:45 PM
Dear DR Der Brucer:

[size=10]YOUR[/size] doggies have been eating my pancakes!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Sandra on January 04, 2004, 07:32:43 PM
DR Jane, his name is Joshie. He likes to sit on my mom.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 07:35:56 PM
Who doesn't like to sit on your mom?  She's comfy.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 07:36:37 PM
Sandra, looking at that photo of you I have to ask: Have you become an African-American?
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 07:39:16 PM
You see, even I am susceptible to karma being removed.  It was 58 but hours ago (I suspect my little post about karma got me karmalized to the negative).  But, to the person who removed it (do you really suppose I don't know who you are?), I care not, and, in fact, I laugh and laugh.  Remove all the karma you like from all the people who disagree - it's really sort of pointless but, you know, whatever floats your boat as certain types are wont to say.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Panni on January 04, 2004, 07:40:07 PM
bk - according to the TV Guide, CYI is on at 9:30 here. Maybe you were picking up an East Coast feed on your state-of-the-art Atilla system. I don't know how dishes work, except to eat on. I'm assuming you also get the regular West Coast feed, but maybe not. It's all a mystery.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Sandra on January 04, 2004, 07:40:38 PM
BK, my mom wants to know what you mean by "comfy." And I have to wear that black mask thing so I don't get stabbed in the eyeball.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 07:43:37 PM
Oh, that's a MASK.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: SwishySarah on January 04, 2004, 07:44:27 PM
I have 3 things to say:

1. A HUMONGOUS Welcome Back to WFO! We missed you!

2. I am ashamed of my beloved Sooners, and the way they are playing right now. I can't even look at the TV without seething with anger.

3. KARMA IS MERELY A NUMBER ON A COMPUTER! If it UPSETS, HURTS, or DAMAGES you in any way, I think you are in dire need of psychological help. If you cannot tell the difference between technology and reality, that is a PROBLEM. On your death bed, will you worry about how many people like you, or what you think/say? I sincerely doubt it. This is similar.

And I think it's cheating when you comment on how low your karma level is. I also think it's a stupid way to say rude things to someone without naming them.

Off to sleep. Sorry I haven't been here in the past 2 days, but I'm becoming BUSY again, like Panni.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Sandra on January 04, 2004, 07:47:34 PM
She still wants to know what you mean by "comfy."
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 07:48:17 PM
Well, BUSY is as BUSY does.  And we shall laugh and laugh.  There are MANY BUSY people here, including my BUSY self, but we love it here so we just make sure we drop by in the midst of our BUSY-NESS.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 07:49:18 PM
Comfy, like a pillow.  Comfy, like a futon.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 07:59:52 PM
A lull.  People must really be BUSY.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: SwishySarah on January 04, 2004, 08:00:30 PM
Just because I'm not here doesn't mean I don't want to be here. There are more imporant things in life than an internet site, sorry to bust the bubble. When I pass my exams with flying colors, keep my job, help my mom out with her new kidney disease, take care of my little sisters, and sleep, maybe THEN I might stop being so damned busy. I'll be sure to drop by and say hello.

Maybe you should go back to ignoring me, it was a hell of a lot nicer.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 08:23:00 PM
People actually remember their number of Karma points? I have certainly given out a few for the kindness so often found on this site but even if I felt annoyed by someones "value judgements" I would not be bothered with the dekarma action. (I just privately email my negative thoughts to others!).
TCB/MBarnum: I too would laugh but I have no idea what the post means.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 08:24:32 PM
Just had to check back. What is "melmac"? It sure doesn't sound like vegemite.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Matt H. on January 04, 2004, 08:25:10 PM
I am sure she is right, bk, about the CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM that you saw. Like you, I get both the east coast and west coast HBO feeds, and you were probably tuned to the East Coast feed which indeed would be 6:30 your time and 9:30 our time.

Swishy Sarah is so very, very wise.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 08:28:57 PM
Have I been ignoring Swishy Sarah?  My, my, my (that is three mys).  I don't ignore people.  And you come and go as you see fit, Swishy, because, really, in the scheme of things, we ARE just an Internet site - I have no argument there.  I was merely pointing out that you were and are not the only BUSY person.  That is all.  We now return you to our regularly scheduled postings.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Matt H. on January 04, 2004, 08:33:52 PM
LOVE ME TONIGHT was just as I remembered it, a witty, sexy musical romp with some very memorable tunes sung by people who were big stars but whose voices grate a little if what one is after is lyrical, pretty singing. One just accepts and enjoys Chevalier and MacDonald for what they could do and excuses their less than pristine way with a tune.

The print looked very good but not pristine either. There were two places where there were serious scratches and some spotting here and there was also evident. Most of the mono sound was clear but early on and then somewhat later there was definite noise from the early sound equipment that I guess no amouont of noise reduction could totally take out.

Clearly NOT the greatest musical ever made though it certainly was beautifully done with innovative camera moves, cuts, and lots of singing recorded live (though not all of it was).

Interesting that Universal would release this for Kino to distribute rather than James Whale's SHOW BOAT. (But Warners may own that from their rights to Turner's holdings, I guess.)

Biggest shock to me: the beautifully muscular physique of Charlie Ruggles!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: LC on January 04, 2004, 08:53:50 PM
Thank you Jane and to the other karma fairies.  I do realize that karma is just a number and it isn't as if my self-esteem is damaged if the number goes down - I just thought someone really must love Return of the King (which I myself liked very much) to boo me for applauding DR Charles's comments.  How bad of a run on sentence is that?
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Laura II on January 04, 2004, 09:01:12 PM
Sarah--I love your mommy! If I can do anything to help, please let me know. I don't know too much about kidney disease--is it something that medicine can keep under control? Sorry to pry. I'll be praying!

I agree with Matt H--you're very wise! :)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Matt H. on January 04, 2004, 09:07:19 PM
Tomorrow I plan to rewqatch LOVE ME TONIGHT and listen to Miles Kreuger's running commentary. His liner notes didn't espouse the film to be the greatest musical film ever, so I'm anxious to hear if he says so in his commentary. Given his gushing praise (much of it deserved) for the Whale SHOW BOAT as heard on the Criterion laserdisc, I would have thought he'd have picked THAT as the greatest film musical ever.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 04, 2004, 09:08:47 PM
Just had to check back. What is "melmac"? It sure doesn't sound like vegemite.

Melmac is smaller than earth, but larger than a gopher.

It is Alf's home planet.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jed on January 04, 2004, 09:10:20 PM
Aaahhh!  I really despise having to keep turning my heat up, but it's FREAKIN' FREEZING around here!  Currently -2F (that's -19 for our Celsius-inclined readers) outside, and we're headed for at least -10F tonight (-24C or so).  I sense a nice hot cup of tea in my very near future.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jane on January 04, 2004, 09:11:12 PM
Just because I'm not here doesn't mean I don't want to be here. There are more imporant things in life than an internet site, sorry to bust the bubble. When I pass my exams with flying colors, keep my job, help my mom out with her new kidney disease, take care of my little sisters, and sleep, maybe THEN I might stop being so damned busy. I'll be sure to drop by and say hello.

.

SS I don’t know how you manage to do all you have to do.  I also didn’t realize your mother is sick.  I’m really sorry.  
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: George on January 04, 2004, 09:12:15 PM
Well I am back up and running. My new bed and bureau arrived yesterday. . . .

As I was catching up on reading the posts, I glanced through MS's post and didn't read it closely enough.  At first I thought that he had written that his "new bed and beau arrived" and I thought "perfect timing!" ... then I looked back to make sure that what I'd read was correct.  It wasn't.  Just wishfull thinking, I guess. ;)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jane on January 04, 2004, 09:13:38 PM
Melmac is smaller than earth, but larger than a gopher.

It is Alf's home planet.

It is also some weird plastic type dishware.  I don't think you can find it anymore.
http://www.norasake.com/generic372.html
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jane on January 04, 2004, 09:14:00 PM
Goodnight.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Matt H. on January 04, 2004, 09:14:07 PM
Well, I guess it's off to bed for me now. Hope everyone has a good evening (an Alfred Hitchcock reference).
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jed on January 04, 2004, 09:15:25 PM
On a happier note (C#), I will soon be the owner of a new computer.  Well, not new, but new to me.  A good friend of mine recently upgraded, and I've been needing to upgrade for some time now, so I'm buying her used-yet-certainly-superior-to-mine machine.  Enough of this fershluganah Mac already!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jed on January 04, 2004, 09:19:57 PM
Just because I'm not here doesn't mean I don't want to be here. There are more imporant things in life than an internet site, sorry to bust the bubble. When I pass my exams with flying colors, keep my job, help my mom out with her new kidney disease, take care of my little sisters, and sleep, maybe THEN I might stop being so damned busy. I'll be sure to drop by and say hello.

Anyone who says high school students aren't busy hasn't been around them in awhile.  I vow to be one of those teachers who actually remembers that my students have more going on in life than school, and more going on in school than just my class!

Best of vibes to you and your mother, Swishy.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: DERBRUCER on January 04, 2004, 09:32:09 PM
der Brucer: I don't KNOW what you're talking about - my post clearly says "KNOW" not "NOW"  ;D

I don't proof the Unseemly Interviews - Mr. Craig Brockman does that for me, and normally he does a good job, but on this interview he was busy and in a hurry and only used his spell check, hence the offending to/too.  


Hmmm...I seem to notice an annotaion on the subject post:

« Last Edit: Today at 06:48:52pm by bk »

said edit being a mere few moments before this "I don't know nothin 'bout typos" post. Too bad the clever edit function doesn't allow you to edit the quote function in my critique. Us Bruce's are a clever lot, you now!

Having cleaned up your own house and deflected the criticism of the interview onto the shoulders of the long suffering Mr. Brockman, perhaps you could use your clever edit bitton and fix the interview for him. Then DR's reading my nit-picking posts will be assured I have lost my mind. But we, to, will now the truth, shan't we?

der ever-complaining Brucer

Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 04, 2004, 09:37:01 PM
3. KARMA IS MERELY A NUMBER ON A COMPUTER! If it UPSETS, HURTS, or DAMAGES you in any way, I think you are in dire need of psychological help. If you cannot tell the difference between technology and reality, that is a PROBLEM. On your death bed, will you worry about how many people like you, or what you think/say? I sincerely doubt it. This is similar.
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Sarah, you're one smart cookie.  

Some folks seem to see karma as a form of validation of self-worth, rather than as an innocuous form of non-confrontational feedback.

The reactions are interesting when the feedback isn't accepted.  Particularly when demands are made for folks to cease giving negative feedback.  No one can dictate  how others should react.  The most you can do is be yourself and hope for the best reaction/response.

The whole POINT of the karma feature is to allow non-confrontational feedback.  If you lose points, you're ticking somebody off.  It's THAT simple.  

I often ignore my disappearing karma, but I sometimes make comments when I want the person who takes it to know I give it to them freely.  Obviously they NEED it more badly than I, and I'm sure they're reacting to something I've said.  I'm blunt when I think I need to be, but I never mean to hurt feelings.  

I'm sure a lot of karma is taken by folks who  seek to avoid confrontation.  Rather than take issue with something someone has written, they  take karma.  I can live with that.  That's what it is for, and it should merit no stronger physical reaction than a bemused smile. It's never worth a distraught reaction.  

I know I'm going to lose karma when I'm outspoken.  I'm going to lose some because of this comment.  But I don't care.  

Like Sarah, I really tire of the whining about it.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: td on January 04, 2004, 09:44:07 PM
Melmac is smaller than earth, but larger than a gopher.

It is Alf's home planet.

Also, the birthplace of Nicole Kidman, though she later ventured to the sunny shorelines of Metaluna.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: td on January 04, 2004, 09:46:30 PM
Just had to check back. What is "melmac"? It sure doesn't sound like vegemite.

Put your vegemite on this, mate!

(http://www.dealersdirect.com/Dealer/Keller/Photos/fost3.jpg)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: DearReaderLaura on January 04, 2004, 09:51:12 PM
DR Swishy Sarah: My thoughts and prayers will be with your mother and with your whole family. It's hard having an ill relative, especially when so much responsibility falls on you for needing to care for your little sisters in addition to all your schoolwork.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 09:52:03 PM
Thanks Jane & Ron for the "Alf"/plastic ware explanation. I did not ever watch "Alf".
DR Jed: Sometimes I was amazed that my students ever made to to School at all. In these days of seriusly fractured and flawed relationships, their problems and demands upon their time are at times overwhelming. I was always amazed that some students even survived and completed their education. The world that only looks at "results" has no idea what is really happening. As one of my colleagues once said, "these kids have experienced everything except death before they even become teenagers".  At times school is their only "constant".
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: MBarnum on January 04, 2004, 09:52:04 PM
Hey, some of my best plates are Melmac!  ;D
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 09:54:57 PM
I am so much more "in the loop" now. Thank you MBarnum and td. I guess I now have to wait for TCB to arrive and say what he meant too!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 09:55:55 PM
And just at the wave of a fairy wand, TCB arrives. This is a magical day.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: MBarnum on January 04, 2004, 10:02:07 PM












LOL Tom!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 10:14:49 PM
Yes, best vibes and xylophones to Swishy's mum.

Just watched Curb Your Enthusiasm - what a strange show.

There is no "edit" or "modify" button on the interviews - it would be a lot easier if there were.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jed on January 04, 2004, 10:20:44 PM
Never seen "Curb Your Enthusiasm," but when it comes to odd-but-damn-funny television, I've become a fan of "Arrested Development."  Anyone else here watch it?  It is incredibly quirky, but I certainly like it.

As some of you may recall, I mentioned the other day that a high school classmate of mine was missing, having gone skiing in the Cascades on New Year's Eve.  I am very pleasantly surprised to be able to report that he was found this afternoon, was airlifted to a Seattle hospital, and looks to be recovering very nicely.  After 4-1/2 days, they had pretty much given up hope of finding him alive, and the search was only a couple hours from being called off.  In fact, this morning his family was planning a memorial service.  Such a nice change of pace to have a happy story lead off the evening newscast.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 10:23:28 PM
And you know what I REALLY like about this site?  Well, I'll tell you what I really like about this site because why shouldn't I?  What I really like about this site is that during times of stress and turmoil this is a place of support and warmth, that's what I really like about this site.  And that, dear readers, is a compliment to the likes of you from the likes of me.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: DearReaderLaura on January 04, 2004, 10:23:50 PM
Good news indeed, DR Jed! It's so nice to have some good news!
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Post by: Laura II on January 04, 2004, 10:23:58 PM
Hooray for that story, Jed! I'm so glad they found him! Thank God! :)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: DERBRUCER on January 04, 2004, 10:24:04 PM
Just had to check back. What is "melmac"? It sure doesn't sound like vegemite.
Old Times (http://www.theoldtimes.com/past/899_1.html) tells us:

"Melmac became the generic term for such dishes, but it's actually a trade name for melamine, a tough hard plastic created by American Cyanamid Corp. in the 1940s. There is dinnerware in other forms of plastic, too, but Melmac is the main concern for Zimmer.

Like many technological breakthroughs of modern times - radar, atomic power, Spam - melamine has its roots in World War II, when the armed forces were looking for sturdy, light, durable materials for the mess hall. Zimmer has a few early examples of stacking tumblers from that time, and though the use of plastic opened up an infinite range of color possibilities, the Army, of course, opted for brown or olive green."

BK likes the subtle colors which is why he uses it for his Cheese Slices and Ham Chunks (and Lemon Squares) for his book signings:
(http://www.theoldtimes.com/photos/melmac6.JPG)

I suspect he also uses it for formal dinner parties to display his platters of Whacky Noodles.

It's also great for breakfast:

(http://www.theoldtimes.com/photos/melmac4.JPG)

Russel Wright also designed this Schmoo-like covered cereal bowl for his "Residential" line.

der Brucer
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jed on January 04, 2004, 10:29:12 PM
Ha!  DerBrucer, that covered cereal bowl is one weird-looking piece of dishware.  And I greatly enjoy the description of "Schmoo-like." :)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 10:29:33 PM
Thank God that not everything makes it to OZ! Thanks "DerBrucer". (maybe it was just not our kitchen).
DR Jed. Thanks for the good news story.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: TCB on January 04, 2004, 10:54:26 PM
Well, you shamed me into it! I read that wonderful interview wherein you grilled the poor girl with your relentless badgering to "hold nothing back" - no doubt conducted with a bright gestapo light and sodium pentathol at the ready.

Even worse, BK uses sondheim pentathol.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jed on January 04, 2004, 10:59:58 PM
Even worse, BK uses sondheim pentathol.

Wow... just have to keep telling myself "There is no groaning at HHW.com... There is no groaning at HHW.com..." :D
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 11:00:32 PM
It puts more "bounce" into your step though TCB.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 11:06:25 PM
What a lovely number of Sunday posts we are having.  One hour left until new notes, which have several piquant observations, oh, yes, they have several piquant observations in them.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 04, 2004, 11:06:46 PM
Bruce, the lovely wife and I listened to the Unsung Berlin whilst soaking in the jacuzzi tonight, sipping champagne as a fitting end to the holiday season.  Great gift, thanks so much!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jed on January 04, 2004, 11:10:47 PM
I prefer picante observations, but I suppose piquant observations will suffice.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: George on January 04, 2004, 11:10:59 PM
I'm watching the local news talk about how freakin' cold it is in Washington State.  To let you know how cold it is, about an hour ago, I got a call from my supervisor telling me that I don't have to come to work in the morning.  They're going to close the building...actually, they're not going to open the building at all.  Yea!  An improptu three-day weekend!

The news just reported that it's one degree in Olympia!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 11:12:17 PM
Do you need a special board to play piquant?
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Kerry on January 04, 2004, 11:14:41 PM
WELCOME HOME BEN AND ANTHONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: TCB on January 04, 2004, 11:24:06 PM
Never seen "Curb Your Enthusiasm," but when it comes to odd-but-damn-funny television, I've become a fan of "Arrested Development."  Anyone else here watch it?  It is incredibly quirky, but I certainly like it.

As some of you may recall, I mentioned the other day that a high school classmate of mine was missing, having gone skiing in the Cascades on New Year's Eve.  I am very pleasantly surprised to be able to report that he was found this afternoon, was airlifted to a Seattle hospital, and looks to be recovering very nicely.  After 4-1/2 days, they had pretty much given up hope of finding him alive, and the search was only a couple hours from being called off.  In fact, this morning his family was planning a memorial service.  Such a nice change of pace to have a happy story lead off the evening newscast.

Yes, Jed, I also enjoy ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT.  It is bizzarre and quirky and often just-plain funny.  I am also happy to see Liza getting a little bit back by laughing at herself in this show.

I was happy to hear on the news about your classmate, Jed.

A low of three degrees for Tacoma tonight with a foot of snow due by Tuesday (you'll notice I avoided saying that 12 inches was due by Tuesday).
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 11:25:26 PM
I seem to be in a much warmer pocket of Washington State. The chance of it snowing here tomorrow is about the same as me playing "Dolly" on broadway.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 11:26:35 PM
I assume you did not want a rush of tourists over the border TCB? Sometimes it is nice to share.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 11:36:44 PM
Good evening/Good morning!

-Now let's see if I get all of this in before the new notes go up...

Topic #1 - Closing night of CAMELOT

What a wonderful night.  Lots of happy vibes all around.  Some teariness, but mainly smiles and long hugs.  And LOTS of picture taking(!!) - myself included.

The conductor and I went out to dinner between shows - he paid this time.  -We take turns paying, regardless of whether we end up at some place pricey or cheap - it all evens out in the long run.  Well, we went to a place on Capitol Hill called "Thai Roma".  Very interesting place.  Very, very interesting.

As the name implies, it's part Thai and part Italian (Roma) - well, at least it used to be.  Now it's mainly Thai with a few Italian "accents" here and there.  And the decor is kind of like an English/Irish/New England pub/racing club/boathouse something or other.  Just lots of stuff all over the place.  However...

The food was very good, and the servings were very generous.  It's right by where I'm rehearsing my new show, and I'll definitely add it to my list of possible lunch and dinner spots.  -And the waitress was very emphatic about my first choice for a soup, "No!" - she just started waving her finger and pointing out the first two choices.  I learned a long time, trust the waitress!  Especially one who looks like she's been around for a while.

But back to closing night...

It was a good show.  Some interesting "things" on stage, but even I was a little "scattered" in the pit.  But a very good show, and during the curtain calls, a lot of the cast was trying to hold back the tears - as was I as I conducted the curtain calls for the final time.  -And, boy, was that last sequence of Good-byes between Arthur, Lancelot and Guenevere very emotionally charged!

At the pizza party afterwards, we all took more pictures... And then came the great unveiling!  All the men in the cast - well, almost all of them - came in with brand new, clean shaven faces!  After three months of being moustachioed and bearded.... Some of the "transformations" were amazing!  Simply amazing!  I took "before" pics before tonight's show, and made sure to take the "after" pics during the party.  Once I get them all montaged, and down to a friendlier bandwidth size, I'll do my best to post some of them on here!

I made sure to get an individual pic of everyone, and I got some nice good-byes in myself.

Yes, a show closing is a sad time.  But this was a good sad.  We had a good run.  And now we all move onto other projects and adventures.  And, most importantly, we get to home - even if it just for a few days.

The most touching "goodbye" of the evening was when I was heading out to my car.  The dance captain's very cute and smart five-year old son was crying - he didn't want to leave the party, he didn't want to leave all his friends.  We all reassured him that we'll see him again.  And soon.  And we will.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 11:38:09 PM
DR Jed - WOW!  I'm now an adjective!  How many more times does "it" have to be used in order for me to petitition to be included in the next edition of the OED? ;)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Panni on January 04, 2004, 11:39:12 PM
I suddenly got very hungry and ate an apple followed by a bowl of cereal with blueberries... then another bowl of cereal w. blueberries. Now I'm stuffed. "What fabulously interesting news," I bet you're all saying to yourselves.
Now I'm going to watch my tape of tonight's SEX AND THE CITY. I'm hoping to get some sleep ce soir, after two nights in a row of barely sleeping at all. Tomorrow, when this town finally comes back to life after the holiday season, I hope to get Network notes (or at least an idea of when the meeting will be for Network notes) so I can finally move on to the next draft of the script I'm working on.

Good news about the lost skier.

All the best to Swishy's mom.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 11:39:52 PM
DR Tomovov - and Colin and Magnus and Fosca - Many happy refrains! ;)
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 11:40:10 PM
Thanks for sharing your "good sad" Jose.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Panni on January 04, 2004, 11:43:25 PM
DR JoseSPiano - Lovely description of your closing night.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 11:44:03 PM
The post office sorters think I am weird enough anyway. Parcels addressed to Colin, Tom , Magus & Fosca" were bound to be delivered to the right address.  We had a card for Christmas addressed to Jack and Tom,Upper Beaconsfield. Not a problem. (Colin's family call him Jack). Thanks again Jose. We hope to see you back here this year.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 11:48:40 PM
OHHH!!!! And when I got home tonight, I was all set to get all my stuff set for rehearsal in the morning, but, guess what?  I don't have rehearsal in the morning!!!!  I just got the e-mail from the stage manager - I'm only called in from 5:00-8:00 tomorrow afternoon/evening.  YEAH!!!!

[move=left,scroll,10,transparent,100%]Happy Dance![/move]

I can actually sleep in, and still be able to get some work done before heading in.  Sooooo cool.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: bk on January 04, 2004, 11:50:46 PM
Isn't dear reader Panni (who is BUSY) forgetting one little item of food?  Isn't she just?

It is REALLY cold (at least for LA) here, too.  
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 11:53:26 PM
DR Tomovoz - I was actually a little hesitant addressing the package the way I did.  I wasn't sure if Customs and/or the Post Office would process a parcel where the recipient's last name(s) were not on the label.

*That reminds me, I should head back to post office to see if the clerk went ahead and contacted his family in Christmas this time round.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 11:55:19 PM
DR Sarah - I'd started calling you "SmartySarah" instead of "SwishySarah", but "Smarty" just doesn't have the same cute ring that "Swishy" does.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 11:57:06 PM
Well, the Mendelssohn Octet finished a few minutes ago on NPR's classical overnight program - what a very vibrant, and youth-full piece of music!

And as the 3:00 hour approaches..  I shall see you all anon...

Goodnight.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Jed on January 04, 2004, 11:57:44 PM
44 degrees and the man says it's "REALLY cold"???  Silly Californians. :D  That would be our warmest temperature in the last month!

Still -2 here, to drop somewhere from -10 to -15 by morning.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: Tomovoz on January 04, 2004, 11:59:21 PM
Good night all.
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 04, 2004, 11:59:39 PM
Oh, I forgot - DR MBarnum - I do remember watching that soap opera.  However, I don't remember anything about it now.  BUT I do remember watching it!  *My father is a Knight of Columbus, and we used to help out with the after-Mass coffe hour.  -Which is where I first discovered the pleasures of Krispy Kreme Donuts - and that was back when they used to make all kinds of flavors!  How I miss the maple-glazed!
Title: Re:TIVO AND DISH
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 05, 2004, 12:00:54 AM
And speaking of donuts.. I had two today.... and some cookies.. and some chocolate... and some pizza....

Ah, well, it was closing... and it was worth it!  Back to "normal" in the morning.  ;)