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Title: SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 12:04:37 AM
Well, you've read the pithy notes, you know all about their subject matter, so post away, post until the fershluganah cows come home.  We are havin' a PAJAMA PARTY just like Frankie and Annette.

 ;D :o 8) :P
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 12:10:49 AM
Hello fourteen GUESTS.  Put you pjs on and join us in the merriment and mirth and laughter and legs!
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Post by: Laura II on January 11, 2004, 12:11:42 AM
My uncle is on! Yay! :)
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 12:13:35 AM
For those who might have missed it - here's a low rez image of the Kritzer Time art by Harvey Schmidt.  The colors don't pop, detail isn't sharp, sides are cut off a bit, but you'll get the idea.
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Post by: Laura II on January 11, 2004, 12:14:48 AM
BK, I need to read your books! When I get some more money, I shall purchase them! Very nice artwork!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on January 11, 2004, 12:15:05 AM
I love the book cover art, BK.
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 12:16:27 AM
My uncle is on! Yay! :)
Your uncle is very frustrated.  He just wrote a very good post, and not only got locked out before he could post it but lost what he'd written!

Time to take a breather, read today's notes, and rewrite.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 11, 2004, 12:21:12 AM
Charles Pogue wrote:
There go calling me a cynic again, Ron...Brilliant fantasy films...I think the 5,000 FINGERS OF DR.T is a brilliant fantasy film and says more with its simplicity about childhood fears and childhood wonder than ET with all its bells and whistles and special effects.  I think Korda's THIEF OF BAGHDAD is a brilliant fantasy film.  I think Cocteau's BEAUTY & THE BEAST is a brilliant fantasy film.  I think IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE is a brilliant fantasy film.  

I think CITIZEN KANE is a damned fine film!  I think ET is just an okay film.

Ahhh....this is probably going to cost me karma points.  I've thrown bricks at the sacred cow!



You're not going to lose any karma on my account.  I say what I have to say.

You have every right to your opinion.  BUT, you characterized those who don't share your opinion as having a "drooling adoration."  To me, you're saying they (we) are all idiots if we don't agree with you.

It's the opinion coupled with disparaging remarks about those who don't share it I find cynical.  It's not a stretch, by any measure.

I have not suggested you hold back from your opinions on anything, but putting demeaning labels on those who don't share "your" opinions is not something I expect.

If you lose karma, it won't be by my hand -- I think you need all the karma you can get.


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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 11, 2004, 12:23:46 AM
BK:  What is the medium used for the "Kritzer Time" cover?  Is it chalk? Water color? Oil?  I don't recall your saying.
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Post by: Laura II on January 11, 2004, 12:25:28 AM
Speaking of uncles, Mr. Craig Brockman knows my uncle in NYC. When I found out, I had a "small world" moment.

It'll be okay, Uncle Woody! Just take a deep healing breath, and you'll be fine in no time!
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 12:34:20 AM
Notes read.  Now, why don't I try writing what I wrote and lost again...

To begin with, a confession.  I have never watched The Maltese Falcon.  I've a good understanding of the plot and the performances, enough to supply me with the gist of what the film is about.  And I am not going to feel guilty about not having seen it.

On the other hand, I've never seen any of the films that make up the Godfather trilogy.  And this is not quite so guilt-free a situation, because der Brucer and I have the films on DVD.  I've simply not sat down and watched them.

Nor have I watched any of the films included in the Chaplin collection released last year.  I've watched some of the supplementary material, but not the films themselves.

I started to watch Kiki's Delivery Service, but got interrupted and didn't finish it.  Same is true of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, and A Hard Day's Night.

Waiting for Guffman, Memento, The Man Who Wasn't There, A Beautiful Mind, Road to Perdition, Saving Private Ryan, Adaptation, Braveheart, Gladiator, Spartacus, fer crying out loud, all sit on the shelf, waiting and gathering dust.  So does the entire first set from American Film Theater, and I, Claudius, both of which I insisted on adding to our collection.

Plus there's a boxed set of early Hitchcock der Brucer bought, which I agreed to.

The fault for not taking the time to watch these films, when they are easily in my reach, is my own.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 11, 2004, 12:35:36 AM
Uncles?  Who's an uncle?  Uncles on HHW?

Has there been a sudden outbreak of love children?  Or at least love nieces and nephews?
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 12:42:58 AM
I, for one, treasure each and every Pogue post, whether acerbic or not.  And we ALL need all the karma we can get.  People have taken exception to some of my posts - oh, well.  We are who we are - Mr. Pogue is not treating anyone with disrespect, and I recommend drinking a mint julep and relaxing.
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 12:44:08 AM
I am in MY pjs, are all of you?  Because we are havin' a PAJAMA PARTY like Frankie and Annette who, by the way (BTW, in Internet lingo) have both seen Casablanca.  Oh, and Frankie doesn't think much of ET, but Annette LOVES it.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 11, 2004, 12:44:37 AM
Well, I'm gonna get ready to turn in... I need to be all nice and rested so I can be even more nice and rested for my midday massage so I can be even more(!) for the rest of the day tomorrow/today!

The "great excavation" went well.  Just a little differently than planned.  Everytime I opened a suitcase or duffel bag, I ended up looking through the pile of books, papers, magazines, etc., it was sitting on - yes, my room is that cluttered right now.  Well, after clearing one pile, then another... then another...  WOW!  I cleared about six square feet of floor space!  I can actually see my area rug again!  So, I just started sorting various other piles and stacks throughout the room.  Placing CDs back on the shelf - I'll put them in order later.  Putting scores back on the shelf.  Putting bills and other papers in the "to be filed" folder in my filing cabinet.  -You get the picture.  So, with the new found floor space, I placed my still-packed bags down on the floor, cleared off my bed, and will now get ready for bed.  I can unpack later - and I now have the room to sort things out better.

-Boy this is rambling.. it's late... I'm sorry...

Thanks for a lovely and lively Saturday night.

-Oh, when's the next chat?
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 12:50:39 AM
Personally, I've always found ET full of fluff and publicity, and hard to take very seriously.

We are talking about Entertainment Tonight, right?

 ::)
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 12:50:46 AM
So silently I didn't even realize - 19.000 posts!  That would be 1,000 posts in just over two days.  On to the MAJOR landmark - 20,000.
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 12:51:31 AM
Are we or are we not having a PAJAMA PARTY?

LauraII, did you get my message?

LauraI, have you seen a Bogart movie yet.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 11, 2004, 12:51:51 AM
Well, I guess when I say "drooling adoration", I don't need any emoticons to get across nuance, according to you, but I don't think I ever said anything about "idiots" or that everyone had to agree to me.  

For the record I liked ET.  But I don't love ET. I think it's okay. A perfectly servicable film. I just don't think it's one of the greatest films ever made by any stretch, which seems to be its aura.  I don't find it a brilliant fantasy.  I don't find it the second coming of Christ, as I said earlier.  I think Spielberg's done better.  I've never had any compulsion to watch it a second time.  

Here's another whose drooling adoration I don't understand.  I absolutely despise THE TITANIC!  I think it's one of the biggest pieces of bloated tripe ever made.  It made what?  Six billion dollars.  Beats me!  I don't get it.  I seem to be in a minority.

But popularity to me has never been synonymous with quality. Just because tons of folks jump on the bandwagon, doesn't mean I'm going to.  Films come out every week and rack up big box office scores I find absolutely unfathomable.

You want to take it as a personal insult, take it how you want.  I ain't going lose sleep over it.
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 12:51:59 AM
The dogs, especially Buster, are urging me to get to bed and read, so they can cuddle.  'Night, all!
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 12:52:43 AM
Gee, I lost three karma points I think - oh, well, I'll just have to eat some chocolate covered red licorice.  Or, better yet, a big red rasberry.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 11, 2004, 12:55:24 AM
Well, Woody, the way I see it, we could be talking about Entertainment Tonight or ET.  The description seems to fit both.  I'll stick with the whimsey of The 5,000 FINGERS OF DR. T myself.
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 12:57:49 AM
I do love me my Dr. T.  Such great songs.  I've recorded one of them on Michelle Nicastro's second album, Reel Imagination - The Dressing Song.
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Post by: Laura II on January 11, 2004, 12:59:20 AM
Goodnight Uncle Woody! (Jose, he adopted me as his niece!)

Yes, BK, I got your message!

I have pajamas on! They're pink (go figure :)) with makeup and mirrors. They are flannel; they are warm.
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 12:59:41 AM
Frankie and Annette would be SO disappointed.  I'm in my PJs for heaven's sake.  That's reason enough to have a partay.  Oh, well, I'll be up for another fifteen minutes or so, so those who are in their PJs, let's partay.
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Post by: Jed on January 11, 2004, 01:04:53 AM
Oh yes, I'm here, fully decked out in PJ's and ready to partay!  Some little pink thing DR Laura II loaned me. :D
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 01:12:18 AM
Perhaps I'd better put on something pink.
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 01:12:36 AM
Yes, that's it!  Think pink!
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Post by: Laura II on January 11, 2004, 01:13:55 AM
Black Pink!!! is this year's pink.
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Post by: Laura II on January 11, 2004, 01:28:22 AM
I would be truly honored if we selected pink to be HHW's signature color! (hint hint :D)
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Post by: Jed on January 11, 2004, 01:30:20 AM
Forget pink, it's all about PURPLE!!!

At least so says Maya and me!
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Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 01:33:32 AM
Jed -- What did DR Ann mean when she said that posting your photo might put us into wide-screen???
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Post by: Jed on January 11, 2004, 01:35:56 AM
Jed -- What did DR Ann mean when she said that posting your photo might put us into wide-screen???

Well, luckily she remembered at the last minute that this is a family site, so she had to select another picture. :D
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Post by: Laura II on January 11, 2004, 01:40:56 AM
::shaking head:: I think BK was right about you, Jed. :P
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Post by: Jed on January 11, 2004, 01:49:22 AM
About my cutting wit, dashing good looks, staggering intellect, and general all-around greatness?  Yes, he was quite right!

As for the "nefarious" thing... ;)
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Post by: Robin on January 11, 2004, 05:55:23 AM
Well, here I be...still in my PJs 'cause I don't gotta go to work, but looking forward to the day. Which will bring the Significant Other and myself to The Palamino for lunch, and to the Park Square theatre over in St. Paul for a matinee of Pacific Overtures, a work which I tremendously admire.  About two years ago, we caught a production of this at the Chicago Shakepeare Theatre (which is, in all honesty, in Chicago...go figure!), and it was quite an exhilarating performance.  I'm hoping for something equally so today.  

Last night was a stay-at-home Saturday, which is always pleasant, but was made even moreso by a viewing of the deeveedee of The Great Dictator, with Mr. Charles Chaplin and the sublime Miss Paulette Goddard.  It's not my favorite of Chaplin's films (that would be City Lights), but it's not shabby by any stretch of the imagination.  We didn't get to the documentary bonus feature, The Tramp and the Dictator, but we'll be seeing it sometime in the near future...
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Post by: Michael on January 11, 2004, 05:55:42 AM
Dear Reader Jason:

If there is any chance that you could sneak away or rearrange an audition time for Dirty Blonde you should do so. Both male parts are challenging and one gets to play mutliple roles. I believe both actors who did the show on Broadway were nominated for Tonys for their verstile turns. It was an enjoyable theater going experience and would be a challenging experience as an actor which ever role you would play. There is drama. There is comedy. An actor's dream. Go for it.
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Post by: Michael on January 11, 2004, 05:58:42 AM
A DVD question. Older films that were made in the 1:33 or 1:37 framing process can these films be processes anamorphically to get more lines of resolution?
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Post by: Noel on January 11, 2004, 05:58:59 AM
Got back Friday, at long last, from the three weeks of travel in the West.  Highlights were: time spent with my nieces (age 5 & 3), time aboard the ship on which Master & Commander was filmed, walking the hidden steps around Disney Concert Hall, watching DW Joy on the mechanical bull at Rawhide, and the Christmas Eve Do.

We attended Caroline, Or, Change yesterday - by two 40-something writers whom I've worked with, separately, on musicals.  Fascinating show with excellent music and some good ideas.  Not sure the plot's working for it, though.

New Year's Resolutions, if kept, will keep me from devoting all the hours necessary to read all the posts to this here site . . . I'm conflicted, and not sure what to do about it.

www.WeddingMusical.com
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 11, 2004, 07:25:50 AM
Well.....not to get involved or anything...since I don't really have opinions on anything.....

Some of the movies mentioned I enjoyed very much, some of them not so much, and some of them not at all.  But I have seen them!

And MR BK please - although Mr Frankie Avalon had a small cameo in PAJAMA PARTY - the male lead opposite Ms Annette Funicello was played by Mr Tommy Kirk!
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Post by: Jennifer on January 11, 2004, 07:28:31 AM
Good morning everyone!

Wow, I had so much trouble getting to sleep last night.  I guess that is what falling asleep earlier in the evening will do to you. But I was so tired then.

I have one more comment about the Casblanca comment and "tone".  I actually did not find Tom From Oz's comments were going in a certain direction. But maybe that's just me.  Yes it can be very difficult to tell if someone is preaching, being annoying, or trying to encourage.  But I still think that we have to watch the terms we use. I have no problem with differing opinions as long as nobody gets insulting.  And those are my 5 cents.
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Post by: Jennifer on January 11, 2004, 07:30:40 AM
OMG DR Jrand: I just happened to see your karma.  You must be very loved! :)

Btw, I think I am hungry and need to eat before I set out for the day.

I thought it was gonna get warmer today but it still feels freezing in my basement. I must check. Bye all.
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Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 07:54:44 AM
Good morning, all. (Said in a cheerful, friendly tone.) About to take dog for a walk (Subtex, nuance: He needs to do his morning  poop in the park.) Wouldn't that be a good musical? "A Poop in the Park with Abie"...
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Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 07:56:01 AM
Revision: "A Sunday Poop in the Park with Abie"
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 11, 2004, 08:13:27 AM
DR Jennifer - the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 08:13:54 AM
A bitterly cold day in these parts, so I'll be having hot chocolate and staying inside.

Speaking of THE GREAT DICTATOR, Siskel and Ebert once did a special show on Chaplin where they denegrated Chaplin's final speech in the movie saying that it ruined the film for them. At that point, I had never seen THE GREAT DICTATOR, only knew it by reputation, but the first chance I got to see it at a revival theater, I was there.

How astonished was I when the film reached that final speech, I had tears in my eyes from Chaplin's overwhelmingly passionate plea for the human race to get a grip and stop the madness. How could ANY discerning critics find that speech unnecessary, especially in light of the way the world was at the time AND what we know now was really going on in Germany/Europe then? Chaplin seems almost psychic in that speech.

For me, that final speech MAKES the film.
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Post by: td on January 11, 2004, 08:18:01 AM
Well, I caught up on yesterday's discussion, and I've got to say, that ON OTHER less popular internet sites, these types of discussions are far less civilized than here at HHW.

I must say that FILM can be a life-changing experience: IF I had not been sitting very high up in the balcony of The Nixon Theater as a pre-adolescent, my life-long obsession would certainly not have begun.  For it was there - go ahead and laugh all you want - that I first saw THE SOUND OF MUSIC.  Imagine if you will, that super-sized Todd-AO screen, presenting super clear images; the sound system properly calibrated to enhance, not over power, and the collective sighs of the well-behaved audience.  It's hard, in today's world of rude audience members, cell-phones, postage-stamp sized screens, uncomfortable seating, sound leaking in from the screen next door, to think of a time when "Going to the Movies" was an event to be savored, not dreaded.
Yes, the combination of Robert Wise and Julie Andrews and Rodgers and Hammerstein et al, DID change my life.  Eventually, I had seen THE SOUND OF MUSIC well over a dozen times on the big screen, each time finding something new to mull over. . .the helicoptor shots at the beginning, the real role of Elsa, the part that comic relief played and on and on.
So, THE SOUND OF MUSIC may not be the greatest film ever made (IMHO, that honor falls to LAWRENCE OF ARABIA), but it certainly played a part in making me the man I am today.

In the 1980's, every Sunday night, my best friend and I would get together and watch TWO films on videotape, the rules being one had to be one which neither of us had seen before, the other being a recent flick.  Ivariable, if the film was in black & white, my b.f. would fall asleep within the first half hour! ! !  This is a man who slept through CAMILLE, CITIZEN KANE, TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD ! ! !

I'm thankful that home video has allowed me to catch up with films that I hadn't seen - - although if someone passionately recommends that I see Ashton Kutcher in JUST MARRIED, I'll still pass.  Some I have disliked:  EASY RIDER, majorly.  Some I have been surprised and delight by: THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE, METROPOLIS.  Some recommendations have been followed to my infinite delight:  KIKI'S DELIVERY SERVICE, CASTLE IN THE SKY, SPIRITED AWAY (thanks again, BK), DONNIE DARKO; others have been traded off nearly immediately after viewing:  DAREDEVIL.

BUT, none of this would have happened had I not fallen under the spell of TSOM at an early age, wanting to know more about the "How's and Why's and What's" about film.

Now that the rant is over

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!   [/move]
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 11, 2004, 08:28:09 AM
TD - you forgot about THE APPLE!
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Post by: td on January 11, 2004, 08:32:53 AM
TD - you forgot about THE APPLE!

Unforgettable, to be sure!  Didn't get to see it on a cinema screen, though.
Does seeing CAN'T STOP THE MUSIC over fifteen times (on the big screen) make up for it?
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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 08:45:32 AM
DR Michael Shayne, that's an interesting question about anamorphic enhancement of 1.37:1 films. Yes, I believe it can be done; it just almost never is.

The reason I think that it can be done is FANTASIA 2000. This new version of FANTASIA was filmed in 1.85:1, but the studio inserted "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" into the film from the original FANTASIA (which was obviously filmed in 1.37:1, the old ratio). When I watch FANTASIA 2000 which is enhanced for widescreen TVs, I do not have to reset my set when that segment of the film comes on. The movie continues to play with no distortion during that sequence. Right now, I can't remember if the studio window-boxed that segment (black bars on the side of the frame) or reframed it entirely. That I can't remember, but they did something to make that old piece of FANTASIA fit into the new film without my having to do anything except sit back and enjoy.
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Post by: JMK on January 11, 2004, 08:45:37 AM
Well, it's obvious to me from the "tone" of several posts yesterday that several DRs must be

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]STUCK IN TACOMA[/move]
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Post by: JMK on January 11, 2004, 08:48:16 AM
In fact, I think being "stuck in Tacoma" should be our new HHW euphemism for anyone becoming a bit snippy.  I have been stuck in Tacoma myself from time to time, not to make a Federal Way case out of it or anything (little joke for the Washingtonians there).
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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 08:54:13 AM
DR Ron, I agree MOST strongly with your opinions on Michelle Kwan's performance last night. I'm jealous you got to give details and specifics that I didn't do since I didn't want to spoil the surprise for anyone who was looking forward to watching it. She was as powerful and majestic as any female figure skater I've ever seen. AND rock solid on every move she executed. That kind of consistency is wonderful, and if she is indeed serious about heading back to the Olympics in 2006, I hope this new coach can keep her consistently focused on doing her programs with authority and not get timid just because she wants that gold medal so badly.

One small caveat: the technical difficulty she had in this program was EXACTLY the same as her 1998 Olympic silver-medal winning program, so I was just a tiny, tiny bit disappointed there were no triple-triple combinations and only one triple-double. Sasha did have THREE triple-double combinations which accounts for the unusually high technical scores she got despite falling once and having a bump on the end of another jump.
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Post by: Danise on January 11, 2004, 09:14:10 AM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%] WARNING!  RANT TO FOLLOW!!!! >:(  >:(  >:( [/move]
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Post by: Danise on January 11, 2004, 09:22:32 AM
It is cold here.  Cold is a 4 letter word.    Cold is not warm.  Cold is not good.  I HATE being cold!!!!!!!

I'm wearing a t-shirt under a sweatshirt under my heavy terry cloth robe.  I have 2 pairs of socks on.  I am STILL cold!  I have already had 2 cups of hot tea.  I am still cold.  

I am so ready for Spring!

Having said all of that,

Good morning all.  Did you know that it's COLD here in Florida????
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Post by: td on January 11, 2004, 09:27:42 AM
Danise, it could be worse.
You could be

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]STUCK IN TACOMA[/move]
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Post by: td on January 11, 2004, 09:28:42 AM
hey! Wait a minim ! ! !

My ex left me to go and live in Tacoma ! ! !

Has anybody seen my ex? ? ?
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Post by: Danise on January 11, 2004, 09:39:52 AM
Jeans.  Did I say I was also wearing jeans?  I don't want anyone to think I might be cold because I forgot to put my pants on!  
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Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 09:45:56 AM
I'm VERY energetic this morning. Must be the dry, stale popcorn I ingested before going to bed. Started off the day by watching CBS SUNDAY MORNING - which is on in LA at the ungodly hour of 6 a.m.. But it's really one of the last civilized shows on television, so I try to watch whenever I can. Then took my doggie to the park, brought him home and took a brisk two mile walk without him (much easier). Then came back, showered, cleaned up my e-mail. (Last night i finally cleared the over 100 waiting emails I'd been neglecting. Must confess, I Deleted most of them, which I probably shouldn't have. But they've gone unanswered so long that I'm sure they've been forgotten by the senders. Most of them were copies of political articles or jokes. Anything personal, I did answer.) Anyway, I've done all this and it's not even 10 a.m.! Might visit the Studio City Farmers Market later.  
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Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 09:53:22 AM
I just noticed that I've become a Sr. Member. So what are the perks?...  A free AARP membership? Getting into movies cheaper? Half-price Early-Bird specials?
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Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 09:56:16 AM
You have my sympathies, DR Danise. Being cold stinks. Especially in Florida. Doesn't make sense. Only explanation I can think of is it's the universe's way of punishing Jeb Bush.
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Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 09:57:58 AM
Three post in a row! This might be #4. Why is everybody so silent? Speak up, DR's.
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Post by: td on January 11, 2004, 10:08:58 AM
Speaking up. . .
DR and Sr Member Panni, please tell us all of your reactions to A BLACK AND WHITE NIGHT!  This is one of my favorite concert films!  I'm not even a big Roy Orbison fan; I taped it from Cinemax when it premiered because of BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN and JENNIFER WARNES !  !
Isn't that quite a line-up of talent?
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Post by: td on January 11, 2004, 10:15:26 AM
Ijust came across an article which I had tucked away in a notebook full of film articles.
NEON magazine once published a feature piece entitled, "The 100 Films You Must See Before You Die."
I'm gonna scan it into a pdf document, if any DRs are interested, I can email that to them. . .otherwise, right now, I'm just gonna list THEIR OPINION on what the Top Ten are. . .

JAWS
GOODFELLAS
NAKED (Mike Leigh)
PLANET OF THE APES (original)
PEEPING TOM
THE EXORCIST
THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY
APACALYPSE NOW
DARK STAR
VIDEODROME

It's a strange little list, to be sure, with CITIZEN KANE placing in at spot #100; as well as including Tod Browning's FREAKS (1932).
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 11, 2004, 10:18:26 AM
Well, I guess when I say "drooling adoration", I don't need any emoticons to get across nuance, according to you, but I don't think I ever said anything about "idiots" or that everyone had to agree to me.  

But popularity to me has never been synonymous with quality. Just because tons of folks jump on the bandwagon, doesn't mean I'm going to.  Films come out every week and rack up big box office scores I find absolutely unfathomable.

You want to take it as a personal insult, take it how you want.  I ain't going lose sleep over it.

How very kind of you to respond.

1.  As you are a writer by trade, I would suspect you DON'T find it necessary to provide emoticons to get your verbal intentions across.  You may deal with morons in the film industry, but there are none on this forum. Your comment was disparaging.  You know it.  I know it.  And everyone else who read it knows it.

2. The discussion had nothing to do with popularity.  That was not an issue.  You didn't like it.  I assume it has nothing to do with its wild popularity and great critical acclaim, just your puzzlement that so many people saw something in it that you weren't able to.  That's still no reason to disparage folks who do love it.

3. I never expected you, of all people here, to lose sleep over offending anyone.  I certainly didn't lose any sleep letting you know you did.

Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 10:20:08 AM
Good morning.  I had a gloriously glorious and needed sleep and now I am up with the chickens.  

Michael Shayne: Yes, they could do Academy ratio films in the way you suggest, by window-boxing the image in the center of the screen.  I know they've done this on a handful of retrospective documentaries - they shot the documentary for widescreen TVs but the clips contained therein are windowboxed within the middle of the widescreen (1:78 for TV) frame.  I don't know that the resolution from windowboxing makes any difference, however.  This is, in fact, what they now do for theatrical re-releases of 1:37 films - they windowbox them in the middle of a 1:85 release print.  Why?  Because only a handful (and I MEAN a handful) of theaters can show Academy ratio.

Feel free to cut and past both your question and this answer into a topic over at The DVD Place, in case someone else has something to add to it.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: William E. Lurie on January 11, 2004, 10:21:36 AM
BK---
The KRITZERTIME (one word or two) cover is great.  Do you know which of the three covers will go on the slipcase that holds all three (as you originally promised) or will there be a totally different piece of arton the slipcase?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 10:27:23 AM
Kritzer Time (two words).  I thought I'd discussed the slipcase at the time I finally did the research.  Unfortunately, it is WAY too costly to do them, even a plain one without any art.  The reason for this is numbers - if you can't order a thousand of them the price is something like forty bucks each.  It was crazy.  I spoke to four different companies about it, and it's just not viable.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 10:34:39 AM
I just noticed that I've become a Sr. Member. So what are the perks?...  A free AARP membership? Getting into movies cheaper? Half-price Early-Bird specials?
I went senior yesterday.  DR Jose told me that my voice was going to get deeper, I'd get a paunch, and my hair would go grey.

And there's nothing like the AARP sending letters inviting one to join to make one feel old!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 10:38:07 AM
DR and Sr Member Panni, please tell us all of your reactions to A BLACK AND WHITE NIGHT!  This is one of my favorite concert films!  I'm not even a big Roy Orbison fan; I taped it from Cinemax when it premiered because of BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN and JENNIFER WARNES !  !
Isn't that quite a line-up of talent?


It certainly is! I loved it. In fact, I  feel a little silly just discovering a concert film that's obviously well-known. My relationship with the music of Roy Orbison is complex. I avoided it for years for the following reason... My first big starring role as a young actress was in an early play by George F. Walker - SACKTOWN RAG. I played Miss Missus, an uptight school teacher who, in a fantasy sequence - the fantasy being that of the young boy whose adult voice narrates the play - does what back then was quite a daring strip. Miss Missus gets up on a desk, the spot hits her, the burlesque music begins and she strips out of her little teacher's suit and is wearing the full stripper's gear underneath it. The strip ended in - dare I say it on a family site - full nudity. Now I was, as are many actors, shy in the real world. And  this was not an easy thing for me to do, although I grew to love it. What a feeling of power to have the audience breathless, watching your every move! There IS a point to all this. The music that was played as the audience was seated and at intermission was Roy Orbison. So every night I would hear "Pretty Woman" and various other Orbison pieces as I got ready for the show and got my head into that "Strip, Miss Missus" space. Sooo, for years afterwards, whenever I'd hear Orbison, I'd want to throw my clothes off. In certain circumstances that was not the correct thing to do. The easiest solution was to avoid his music altogether.
That's a long answer to a short question, DR td. The concert was terrific. And yes - I danced - but I was in a bathrobe - so it wasn't too exciting a show. My dog seemed to enjoy it.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jay on January 11, 2004, 10:47:05 AM
One of the things that has fascinated me about the context of Casablanca is that it was created and released while World War II was in full swing.  I can only imagine the reaction of audiences in 1942 when the film was first shown and the outcome of the war was far from certain.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 10:47:08 AM
For your information (FYI, in Internet lingo), Nick Redman has just written his first two cents' worth over at The DVD Place - it's great, go read it.  http://dvds.allaccessworld.com
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 10:48:30 AM
NEON magazine once published a feature piece entitled, "The 100 Films You Must See Before You Die."
...right now, I'm just gonna list THEIR OPINION on what the Top Ten are. . .

JAWS
GOODFELLAS
NAKED (Mike Leigh)
PLANET OF THE APES (original)
PEEPING TOM
THE EXORCIST
THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY
APACALYPSE NOW
DARK STAR
VIDEODROME

It's a strange little list, to be sure, with CITIZEN KANE placing in at spot #100; as well as including Tod Browning's FREAKS (1932).

All right, before asking for the entire list, could you give a couple of hints?  What is (or was) NEON?  And what was the criteria they gave for their listing?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 10:49:34 AM
Only 240 posts to go before I'm a GAWD!   ;D
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 10:56:21 AM
Are we on a meal break?  I'm debating breakfast.  It's a lively debate - so far I'm making good arguments but breakfast is also making good arguments.  I'll keep you posted if you keep me posted, if you get my meaning.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: td on January 11, 2004, 10:56:43 AM
All right, before asking for the entire list, could you give a couple of hints?  What is (or was) NEON?  And what was the criteria they gave for their listing?


NEON was a mid-1990s publication along the lines of PREMIERE (without the gloss) and MOVIELINE (without the dross).

Some interesting choices include LES YEUX SANS VISAGE and REPULSION.
It is indeed qutie a quirky little list. . any list that includes BOTH the aforementioned CITIZEN KANE and Cheech and Chong's UP IN SMOKE is bound to be quirky.

To quote:
"Some are brilliant, some are banned, some aren't even very good, but until you've seen all these movies you just haven't lived"
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: td on January 11, 2004, 10:57:33 AM
BK - consider yourself (Oh! a Lionel Bart reference) posted!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 10:59:33 AM
LOVE Les Yeux Sans Visage (Eyes Without a Face) - supposedly a SE DVD is on its way soon.  It's out in France but sans soustitres.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 11:02:48 AM
Sandra, you are just sitting there like so much fish.  You haven't joined us in AGES.  Get out your epee and write something, will ya?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 11:29:34 AM
I've got to get to the store.  I still haven't had my pancakes, and for that I need MILK!

Here's a question for all: what newspapers do you read on Sunday?

Back in Long Beach, we used to get the L. B. Press Telegram and the Los Angeles Times.  Now that we're in Rehoboth Beach, it's the Washington Post, the NewsJournal, and the weekly Cape Gazette.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 11, 2004, 11:30:35 AM
Well, I guess maybe I do need emoticons after all...There is a distinction between "adoration" of a film and "drooling adoration" of a film.  First of all, I don't know how I can make it any clearer. I said I liked ET, thought it was okay.  Said it twice.  Never said I "didn't like it."

So, my definition of "drooling adoration" is that sort of fan who is so gaga over a movie that you must think exactly as he/she does about it.  Anything less, anything different and you're the anti-Christ.  You have to adore it, you have to think it's wonderful.  Any criticism of it will not be brooked.  Any attack on the film is construed as a personal attack on the person.  

To say that ET does not have these type of zealot groupies would be an absolute falsehood.  Almost any film that has made the money it has, a part of its following is made up of these sort of folks.  The type of folks who stand in line for two days, freezing their ass off, to be the very,very,very, very first one to see the next installment of STAR WARS.  That, my friends, is "drooling adoration".   ET has those fans.  But I never once suggested that anyone on this board or any specific person here was one of those fans.  

No one said it's bad to like a specific movie, to love a specific movie, to adore a specific movie, but I find "drooling adoration" a bit problematic.  It is, after all, only a movie.  

And what's amusing in this entire discussion is that I didn't dislike the movie.  I just didn't pee my pants with delight over it.  Big deal.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 11, 2004, 11:37:13 AM
td, interesting list...I'd love to know what else is on it, with the exception of DARK STAR (which I've only seen part of...no interest to see the rest), I think I've seen every one of those films.  Most of them, I think I could have gone bilthely through life missing.  Only PEEPING TOM & PLANET OF THE APES have I seen more than once.  NAKED is awfully good...but again, I don't need to see it again.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jane on January 11, 2004, 11:48:09 AM


Here's another whose drooling adoration I don't understand.  I absolutely despise THE TITANIC!  I think it's one of the biggest pieces of bloated tripe ever made.  It made what?  Six billion dollars.  Beats me!  I don't get it.  I seem to be in a minority.

I'm in that minority with you.  I find it to have the most annoying ending I have ever seen.  What woman in her right mind would do such a thing?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jane on January 11, 2004, 11:54:21 AM
Jeans.  Did I say I was also wearing jeans?  I don't want anyone to think I might be cold because I forgot to put my pants on!  

Jeans absorb the cold.  You need a warm liner under them.  I remember going to Disney World in February in the middle of a record breaking heat wave.  Two days after we arrived, the temps dropped to 25 degrees and we had left our winter coats at home.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jane on January 11, 2004, 12:01:03 PM
I was sick most of the night and am still shaky today.  We won’t see Return of the King today.  I’m disappointed but it is simply too long to sit through.  Keith is tired since I eventually woke him up for assistance, after which I told him to go back to sleep.  Of course he couldn’t.  Maybe we will see something mindless like Paycheck.  
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 12:04:39 PM
hey! Wait a minim ! ! !

My ex left me to go and live in Tacoma ! ! !

Has anybody seen my ex? ? ?

Ah, td, I have been meaning to tell you something.......

STUCK IN TACOMA  I resemble that remark.  Actually, I have lived in Portland, the Bay Area, Laguna Beach, the Tri-State area (okay New Jersey), Ellensburg, and Seattle; but everytime I have moved away, I have come back home to Tacoma.  I LOVE New York, but I truly enjoy living in Tacoma, stress and all.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 12:16:41 PM
I went senior yesterday.  DR Jose told me that my voice was going to get deeper, I'd get a paunch, and my hair would go grey.

Yes, but did one have anything to do with the other?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 12:25:36 PM

Was It Something I said?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 12:25:52 PM
Yes, but did one have anything to do with the other?
If you recall, I replied that I was already there, and done that.   8)
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 12:27:30 PM
I'm in that minority with you.  I find it to have the most annoying ending I have ever seen.  What woman in her right mind would do such a thing?
I recall an ad for the Yellow Pages, spoofing the ending, where first she dove in to retrieve the gem, then dove into the pages to find the address of a good pawn shop!   ;D
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: JMK on January 11, 2004, 12:28:19 PM
Years ago when RATM was actually a fun place to visit, there was a running gag about an original musical which, since this is a family site, I will not name.  However, it occurs to me that:

STUCK IN TACOMA!

or, perhaps

TACOMA!!

might be the first original HHW musical.  Here are some opening number thoughts (to the tune of Oklahoma):

Ooohhhhhhh Tacoma
where the air smells like some dirty socks
If you're feeling stressed
You're a welcome guest
In your pantaloons and frilly frocks
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 12:29:22 PM
Ah, td, I have been meaning to tell you something.......

STUCK IN TACOMA  I resemble that remark.  Actually, I have lived in Portland, the Bay Area, Laguna Beach, the Tri-State area (okay New Jersey), Ellensburg, and Seattle; but everytime I have moved away, I have come back home to Tacoma.  I LOVE New York, but I truly enjoy living in Tacoma, stress and all.

One of my best college roommates was from Tacoma!

So, TCB, why did they kick you out of Laguna Beach?   ;D
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 11, 2004, 12:31:27 PM
I may have missed mention of it during the two weeks I was on the east coast, but I see that a recording of "Sherry!" is being released February 24 on Broadway Angel.

Nathan Lane, Carol Burnett, Bernadette Peters, Tommy Tune and Mike Myers are all featued on the double-CD recording (includes cast interviews from "Inside the Actor's Studio").

This is great news for fans of composer Laurence Rosenthal, and for all theater fans who have never had an opportunity to hear this score.

Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 11, 2004, 12:32:27 PM
I just caught the end of the Canadian Nationals' dance teams. Megan Wing and Aaron Lowe, who've been skating together since, I think, 1986, finished second (deservedly, to Marie-France Dubreuil and Patrice Lauzon's gold). Their music selection - a Miklos Rosza medley - was exquisite, and they skated elegantly to it. It's easy to tell that Wing and Lowe are a couple off the ice as well.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 12:35:09 PM
One of my best college roommates was from Tacoma!

So, TCB, why did they kick you out of Laguna Beach?   ;D

I was too straight acting!

By the way (BTW in Internet lingo), JMK, Tacoma no longer stinks and hasn't for several years.  Even Mr. Springsteen, who years ago said the smell of the city made him sick, came back last year with no negative effects.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jed on January 11, 2004, 12:37:23 PM
TCB speaks the truth, the infamous "Aroma of Tacoma" is no longer.  It can still very much be found down in Camas, WA, however.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 12:41:18 PM
DR Dan-In Toronto -- I found my copy of the Judy Holliday bio.  It is apparently a different bio than the one MattH found in his collection.  The one I have is called Judy Holliday: An Intimate Life Story by Gary Carey.  It was published in 1982 by Seaview Books.

If you aren't able to locate one, Dan, my offer still stands.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Noel on January 11, 2004, 12:49:54 PM
DW Joy and I have some of those lists from the AFI and others (including DR Diane) about what unseen films we should see.  Sometimes it amazes me what rises to the top of these lists.  Last year we rented Taxi Driver, The Maltese Falcon and Apocalypse Now and we remain confused as to what makes them all time greats.  But we also rented Casablanca and weren't puzzled in the slightest: It's pure fun.

Then, there are some films that have moved me greatly that never show up on anyone's list: Lorenzo's Oil. Hope and Glory and Love and Death come to mind.

Now in the VCR: the long-awaited 2-camera video of Our Wedding - The Musical.  Great fun to finally get to see it here at the 3-month mark, but we're unlikely to release it to the public.  So, those interested in experiencing it  can purchase the CD at www.WeddingMusical.com

Question: Is Miracle of Morgan's Creek on DVD?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 11, 2004, 12:51:33 PM
Good morning!  Good afternoon!

What a gloriously, sunny, brisk day it is here in Richmond, VA

DR Danise, I, myself, actually don't mind the cold too much.  -I think it's a "remnant" from being born in Boston.  However, I do have some friends in Ft. Myers who are suffering through the "cold" weather too.  *And I suggested some friends go to Sanibel this weekend - they did, and, apparently, it's been overcast all week.  Ah, well... The jet stream has a mind of it's own.

I finally got out of bed around 10:00 - after listening to NPR for about an hour - and readied myself for my massage.  And, boy, did I need that massage!  I didn't realize it's been months since my last one, but my masseuse could tell.  Knots galore!  And he even helped with the circulation issues I've been having in my arms - due to getting used to my own bed again.  I had one big knot in, around and under my right shoulder blade - and I still have some "residual" knottage up there.  But it's better now.  Much bettter now.

Then came brunch at Sidewalk Cafe!  Any guesses as for what I had?

Huh?  Anyone?

Pancakes, of course!  And they were good pancakes too!  Butter, syrup... Along with some sausage, eggs and hash browns - a.k.a. "Greg's Big Breakfast".  And I finished almost every bite of it!  -They're always very generous with their hash browns.

I also picked up copies of - to tie this into a DR question - The Richmond Times-Dispatch, The Washington Post, and The New York Times.

Oh, and there's a very cute cartoon in one of the Style sections.  I'd scan it, but I don't have a scanner here.  I'd post the link to the website, but this particular cartoon is not up on the site today.  So, a description will have to suffice for now:

Title and Author: Everyday People, Cathy Thorne
Picture: A line drawing of a woman holding an ice cream cone.
Caption: No Impact-Aerobics
 ;)
-But the website does have some other cute cartoons:
http://www.everydaypeoplecartoons.com (http://www.everydaypeoplecartoons.com)

Well, time to read more of my papers, and start another round of sorting and throwing away of stuff.

*On a related note: Have any other DRs seen the new Heloise organizing book?  I haven't read it, but there's been a bunch of articles here and there about it outlining her major hints.  The one I really like is the "Five Minute Rule".  Each day, you take five minutes to either organize something (a drawer, a box, a desktop) and/or gather things together to throw out.  Five minutes each day adds up over the long run.  -And I guess after last night, I was making up for my "deficit".  ;-)
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jed on January 11, 2004, 12:58:38 PM
It is raining.  It has been raining off and on since yesterday evening.  It is turning the snow we had earlier in the week into a slushy mess.

But, at least it's now warm enough to rain! :D
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Danise on January 11, 2004, 12:59:47 PM
Opps, I'm sorry I lowered this screen and went to start supper--I'm making a yummy ham and bean soup.  I don't know if I'll be able to have this after today but  so be it.

For those who are interested, I found an e-book of the South Beach diet on E-bay for $1.99.  

I haven't received the e-mail yet to download it but here is item number if you want to have a look see.   There are 25 copies up for sale.

2371229727 SOUTH BEACH DIET Cookbook and plan -W/BONUS  

BTW, I'm finely starting to warm up.   :)

Hey, I'm a Senior too.  I didn't even notice the change.  My how time flys!  It only seems like yesterday that I was Newbie.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 01:02:15 PM
Off to the murder!

I probably won't be home in time for chat.  Sorry.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jennifer on January 11, 2004, 01:07:42 PM
DR Jennifer - the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Is this in response to my saying you had much karma. I feel so dense :)

Btw, I like the saying "stuck in tacoma". It works for me. Although I hope nobody found my opinions the last few days snippy.  I try to be really respectful of others, and if I'm ever not, I hope someone will tell me.

Btw, Florida is not cold :)

Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jennifer on January 11, 2004, 01:09:48 PM
Btw, I don't think I mentioned this, but DR Jed that pic was so cool (thanks to DR Ann for posting). You are on a brochure, woohoo :)

Oh and can someone please tell me why I don't know chocolate covered licorice. Never heard of it, never seen it. I feel so out of the candy loop.

Oh and we have a new episode of Alias tonight. Woohoo.  The commercials look so great.  7pm here I come.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 01:11:31 PM
I may have missed mention of it during the two weeks I was on the east coast, but I see that a recording of "Sherry!" is being released February 24 on Broadway Angel.

Nathan Lane, Carol Burnett, Bernadette Peters, Tommy Tune and Mike Myers are all featued on the double-CD recording (includes cast interviews from "Inside the Actor's Studio").
Does than mean "The Four Seasons" version of "Sherry" kis now being sung by FIVE people. It's time the song was revived (1963).
Seriously: Good to know that the cast from the demo recording was retained.

This is great news for fans of composer Laurence Rosenthal, and for all theater fans who have never had an opportunity to hear this score.


Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 01:12:49 PM
Not sure how I ended up in Ron's quote. My comments are in there somewhere!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jennifer on January 11, 2004, 01:14:25 PM
Oh I might as well finish my posts before catching up on pages 3 and 4.  

I must say, I cannot believe that anyone posting on BK's site would take away 3 of his karmas.  And I think Charles Pogue's writing style is brilliant.  I don't really find that most of what he says sounds at all condescending, cause he says it with wit and sarcasm.  

Okay back to reading the posts.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jrand73 on January 11, 2004, 01:16:07 PM
At last a CD talked about here at HHW I don't want to buy!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jennifer on January 11, 2004, 01:18:51 PM
Oh btw, I found something so exciting today.  I found about a hundred different charms at the Un Dollar Ou Deux (Buck or Two) dollar stores. I got 7 new ones, for $2 each. Yeah!

(okay nobody else cares, but I can still be happy, right?)
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 01:19:55 PM
BTW Jennifer you need to empty your HHW mail box!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jennifer on January 11, 2004, 01:30:09 PM
BTW Jennifer you need to empty your HHW mail box!

Sorry, it's clean now. I didn't realize that it was full (got an email thru it yesterday).

Please try again.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 11, 2004, 01:31:46 PM
Anyone who skates to Miklos Rozsa, the greatest film composer ever, is okay in my book.

Why Maltese Falcon is great...brilliant dialogue brilliantly delivered. "Here a crippled newsie took these off 'im, but I made him give 'em back."  "The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter."  "By Gad, sir, you're a character...I don't mind telling you I like talking to a man who likes to talk."  "When you're partner dies, you're supposed to do something about it, it doesn't matter what you thought of him, you're supposed to do something..."
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 01:32:31 PM
For those who are interested, I found an e-book of the South Beach diet on E-bay for $1.99.  

I haven't received the e-mail yet to download it but here is item number if you want to have a look see.   There are 25 copies up for sale.

2371229727 SOUTH BEACH DIET Cookbook and plan -W/BONUS  
One of these days, someone is going to have to write a diet book called The "Everything You Always Wanted To Put In Your Mouth But Were Afraid To Swallow" Cookbook.  It would sell!   ::)

Oh, Danise, one thing I like to do when I want to warm up is take a nice hot shower.  Unfortunately, I can only suggest you do this when you are at home.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Laura II on January 11, 2004, 01:32:59 PM
DR Jane, I really hope you feel better very soon! Feeling shaky and ill is never fun. :(

DR Danise, glad you're starting to warm up!

Uncle Woody, I read the Washington Post and occasionally the Washington Times. We get both papers.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jennifer on January 11, 2004, 01:39:49 PM
I also hope that DR Jane feels better soon.

Btw, it's been snowing all day :(
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 01:47:12 PM
Uncle Woody, I read the Washington Post and occasionally the Washington Times. We get both papers.
Dear Neice Laura II: This is a definate my bad!  I didn't realize until now that we're now living in your neck of the woods!  (Roughly defined as "less than a day's drive away.")  I knew that Jose was close by; he keeps dropping hints about dropping by and raising hell with me in the kitchen.  I just didn't know you were close by, too!

At some point, when der Brucer gets back home, we're going to have to all get together for a theater night (or matinee).
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jay on January 11, 2004, 01:52:48 PM
I read the Los Angeles Times thoroughly each day, and I check the "Arts" section of the New York Times daily on-line for items of interest under Theatre, Music and Art & Design.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 01:54:17 PM
All right, it's time for me to buckle down and get something done here.

I'm going to start assuaging some of that guilt I talked about on page one and watch one of the Chaplin films.  Just put it in and watch it.

That, and I think I'll make it a double feature and watch Hitchcock's The Lodger.

If I get going now, I'll still have time for Alias.

Now, all I have to do is get Mikey and Bonnie out of the armchair, which is the best watching-chair in the house.
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Post by: JMK on January 11, 2004, 01:57:02 PM
Yes, you resident Tacomans, I know the "Aroma" factor has been improved.  I am old enough to remember having to try to hold my breath every time we drove past Aroma--er, Tacoma, especially when my Dad would go to Ft. Lewis (where there is, I am proud to say, a building a named after him).
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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 01:57:12 PM
DR Jane, very wise of you to skip the movie if you aren't feeling well. No way to enjoy anything, THE RETURN OF THE KING or anything else, when you'd rather be home more comfortable and sipping hot soup, bourbon, or your treatment of choice.

When I was reviewing films, the only one I can remember suffering through when I was really ill was YENTL. I needed to be home in bed, but I had a deadline, and I had to see the film that day. I'm not sure I was as fair to it as I might have been if I had felt better. Funny, I don't think I've ever sat through the entire thing again, and I DO owe it another look.
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Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 02:00:28 PM
JMK: Is it the Kauffman building or the "Dad" building?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 11, 2004, 02:00:40 PM
Anyone who skates to Miklos Rozsa, the greatest film composer ever, is okay in my book.


On this we can agree wholeheartedly.  I cannot remember anyone ever skating to Rozsa at U.S. Nationals or Worlds or the Olympics.  I've often thought his suite for "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes" would make a magnificent program for a fine skater.

But then there's "Diane" that breaks the heart each time I hear that theme....

And why hasn't anyone ever skated to "Providence" or "Fedora" or "Time After Time" -- there are sensational sections in all those scores tailor made for an exception skater wanting great music.
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Post by: SwishySarah on January 11, 2004, 02:06:11 PM
Hello! My name's Sarah! What's yours?!

Sarah is sleepy! I am one of those people who NEEDS to sleep in at least once a week. And by "sleep in", I mean wake up after 8 o'clock. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to do that this weekend or last, and it's catching up with me!

I worked from 9-3:30 today, went to Starbucks, and hung out with my new eye candy for a half hour. When I walked in, he was leaning against a wall with his arms folded, eyes closed, half asleep. I snuck up behind the counter and got about an inch away from his face, then whispered "Aaaaaaaadaaaaam...." He started grumbling about not wanting to wake up, and I then whispered something that probably shouldn't be printed on a family site. He woke right up :). I got my tea (FREE< since I'm now on the "friends" list :)) and chatted with my friend Jennifer who also works there.

And here I am, home FINALLY. This week is going to be kind of hectic, as I have exams. all week. But I should probably be able to find some time to post, since school lets out a lot earlier.

More in a few minutes: Parents are calling.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 11, 2004, 02:07:42 PM
DR Swishy Sarah:  I very much look forward to your posting more.  You've been sorely missed.  Your perspectives have been woefully absent far too long.

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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 02:10:37 PM
No chat for me tonight. ALIAS in high definition is on at 9 p.m. First ALIAS in weeks cannot be missed. Supposedly, we're going to find out answers to many of the mysteries we've been puzzling over since the start of this season. Can't wait.
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Post by: MBarnum on January 11, 2004, 02:21:57 PM
TCB, when did you live in Portland? And what part of town?

Speaking of stinky cities, has anyone ever driven past Albany, Oregon...holy smokes, those paper mills make is smell like something died and was burned on the spot!
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 11, 2004, 02:22:18 PM
And of course DRCharlesPogue "The Maltese Falcon" has Mary Astor AND Peter Lorre.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 02:24:36 PM
I just don't understand the logic behind recommending bad films as films one should see before he dies. I mean, if there's entertainment value to be had in the awfulness of a film (Ed Wood's creations come to mind), maybe there might be cause, but to recommend a movie that's just poorly done (THE CAT IN THE HAT, let's say, which seems to have appeared on more worst 10 lists this year than even GIGLI) without something of value seems like an utter waste of time to me.

S. Woody, let us know which Chaplin you picked. The Keaton-Chaplin comedy routine at the end of LIMELIGHT is still as priceless as ever.
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 02:31:38 PM
What lovely postings from one and all and also all and one.  Just back from a nice long walk - it's really like summertime here.  Chat in two-and-a-half hours.  The stuff that dreams are made of.
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 02:33:19 PM
Here is what is amusing, Jennifer: I had sixty-eight karma points (meaningless, of course, but there you are) - three of them disappeared, then two came back, and now one is missing.  I will only say that to think that I don't know who is doing what on this site would be folly.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 11, 2004, 02:35:14 PM
DR Dan-In Toronto -- I found my copy of the Judy Holliday bio.  It is apparently a different bio than the one MattH found in his collection.  The one I have is called Judy Holliday: An Intimate Life Story by Gary Carey.  It was published in 1982 by Seaview Books.

If you aren't able to locate one, Dan, my offer still stands.

DR TCB,
That would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. I'll send you an e-mail.

My friend Patty and I met Judy Holliday when we were teenagers, and I'd like to find out more about her life.

We also met Eva Gabor, whose autobiography Patty once found in a second-hand-book store. More interesting than the book (Orchids and Salami - the two things Eva kept in her refrigerator) was the inscription, to Mary Margaret McBride (who would have been alive at the time of the find): "To Mary Margaret McBride, who has giving [sic] me so much. Love, Eva." To this day, Patty and I use the "giving me" line.
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Post by: Jed on January 11, 2004, 02:36:11 PM
Oh yes, MBarnum, I have family in Albany, and I do recall there being something in the air down there.  It's paper mills that also give the WA towns of Camas and Clarkston their special stench.
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Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 02:50:35 PM
Should I avoid "papermill productions" Jed? Not that I am ever likely to see them anyway.
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 02:54:57 PM
Chat in a mere three hours.  It must be a meal break right now.
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Post by: Michael on January 11, 2004, 02:57:30 PM
I may have missed mention of it during the two weeks I was on the east coast, but I see that a recording of "Sherry!" is being released February 24 on Broadway Angel.

Nathan Lane, Carol Burnett, Bernadette Peters, Tommy Tune and Mike Myers are all featued on the double-CD recording (includes cast interviews from "Inside the Actor's Studio").

This is great news for fans of composer Laurence Rosenthal, and for all theater fans who have never had an opportunity to hear this score.



It was recorded years ago and was supposed to been released on Original Cast label. Bruce Yeko produced it.
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 02:59:50 PM
Actually that isn't correct.  Lipton went and got Angel involved because of the star power his gig was able to get him.  The recording was produced by Robert Sher who is notorious for his CDs taking three or four years to come out (Breakfast at Tiffany's, Mata Hari - in fact, I was told he'd still be mixing the Papermill Follies had it not been taken from him by the powers that be).
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Post by: Michael on January 11, 2004, 03:03:32 PM
Actually that isn't correct.  Lipton went and got Angel involved because of the star power his gig was able to get him.  The recording was produced by Robert Sher who is notorious for his CDs taking three or four years to come out (Breakfast at Tiffany's, Mata Hari - in fact, I was told he'd still be mixing the Papermill Follies had it not been taken from him by the powers that be).

Thanks for correcting me. I was so sure it was Original Cast and Bruce Yeko.
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Post by: Michael on January 11, 2004, 03:05:44 PM
Ok who has seen the AFI film version of Jacques Brel is Alive and Well and Living in Paris? What were they trying to do here? Is there a plot that I am missing here? I think this is the first film I rather listen to than watch. (I love Brel songs weather they are in French or English)
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 03:07:35 PM
If Angel had backed out (which they did at one point) it would, of course, had ended up on Yeko's label, since he and Sher are tight and I'm sure Yeko put up at least some of the dough.  
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 03:08:11 PM
Thank you, whoever restored some karma.  The karma culprits have left the room for the time being.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 03:09:18 PM
Regardless, I'm looking forward to hearing SHERRY! The one number on bk's UNSUNG MUSICALS was priceless.
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Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 03:09:34 PM
Feel better, DR Jane! (Warning: Seeing PAYCHECK, from what I hear, might bring back the shakes.)
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Post by: Michael on January 11, 2004, 03:13:28 PM
Feel better, DR Jane! (Warning: Seeing PAYCHECK, from what I hear, might bring back the shakes.)

Paycheck sounds like a remake of Total Recall, but set in the present time and on the planet earth. At least this fil made more money that Gigili.
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Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 03:19:14 PM
The Live Demo of "Sherry" was recorded in September 2000. I guess the studio version would not have been for quite a while after that.
(Just Before "Big Girls Don't Cry").
MDS: td will have to explain vey carefully to us just what we dont "get". I could not get through JBIAAWALIP.  I would rather listen too.
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Post by: Jed on January 11, 2004, 03:21:05 PM
At least this film made more money that Gigili.

Doesn't mean it's any better, though. :D
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Post by: Robin on January 11, 2004, 03:22:21 PM
What is this "karma" you speak of?  How does one go about getting, or giving it?  

By the way, the Pacific Overtures matinee was diverting.  Not riveting, but quite satisfying.  Years ago, I was so-so on the show, and now, after seeing four different productions, my so-so has transformed itself into sincere admiration.  Yes admiration.  I still don't love it, but it's awfully awfully good.  

And, about The Maltese Falcon...it's my favorite Peter Lorre picture.  I know some other people are in it, too, but Mr. Lorre's Joel Cairo steals the movie...for me, at least.  
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Post by: Danise on January 11, 2004, 03:24:30 PM
One of these days, someone is going to have to write a diet book called The "Everything You Always Wanted To Put In Your Mouth But Were Afraid To Swallow" Cookbook.  It would sell!   ::)

Oh, Danise, one thing I like to do when I want to warm up is take a nice hot shower.  Unfortunately, I can only suggest you do this when you are at home.

*chuckle*  I tend to agree but I've gotta do something about this weight.  My own personal belief is that it is one of the reasons I keep having these attacks.   I did Slim Fast years ago and managed to get the weight off--was down to 115 lbs and kept it off as long as I kept the shakes up.  The only problem was, at the time, they only had the 3 flavors.  Vanilla, Chocolate and Strawberry.

 After a time, you find you just can’t face them anymore.  I’ve tired.  I know they have all the other flavors now but I just can’t do it.  Not to mention the fact that I started have some kidney problems that I’m told may be because I drank the shakes.  I don’t really know if I believe that but I have heard that from several sources.

If I could adopt an eating plan that would be healthy and help me get and keep the weight off, I think it will be worth reading the book.  

The only problem with the taking the warm hot shower is that the water heater runs out after awhile!

And it IS cold in Florida!   :)
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Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 03:26:32 PM
I would explain it Robin but I am too busy sorting out my "S & Ms".
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Post by: Danise on January 11, 2004, 03:27:19 PM
Karma--you can't give it to the same person  on the same day or you can't give it to anyone after you've given it to one person on the same day?

Sometimes it seems to work one way and then the other.
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Post by: Robin on January 11, 2004, 03:29:02 PM
Paycheck sounds like a remake of Total Recall, but set in the present time and on the planet earth. At least this fil made more money that Gigili.

Paycheck commits the worst sin a movie can commit.  It's boring.  This is not something I'm accustomed to from John Woo, who normally is able to inject a bit of interest into the proceedings.  

Yes, it's essentially Total Recall Redux (not surprising, considering both movies are based on short stories by Philip K. Dick), and it's truly sad to realize that Ben Affleck doesn't have the screen presence of Ah-nuld.  But it isn't set in the present day, it's set in some nebulous, undefined point in the near future.  

Regardless of where it's set, it'll steal two hours of your life better spent elsewhere.  Like on these message boards.  
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 11, 2004, 03:30:16 PM
What is this "karma" you speak of?  How does one go about getting, or giving it?  


You've already got some karma, DR Robin.  When you've completed 25 posts, you will see the [applaud] [boo] links under the karma number of other posters.  At your discretion, you may assign or remove a karma point.

It has been a sore topic a few times here in the forum.  Some folks have begged for karma and others have cried pitifully when they've lost karma.

Most don't particularly care one way or the other.  

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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 03:31:51 PM
If someone posts something you like you can give them karma (but only after you've made a certain number of posts).  There should be an "applaud" "boo" icon on the left where your name is.  Karma is, of course, meaningless in terms of this site and this board, but it makes people feel good when they get it - conversely, it makes some people feel bad when it is taken away.  Why anyone who posts here would take karma from a dear reader is beyond me - I have tried to figure it out but can come up with no other answer than people do what people do.  The trick is not to care.

I don't know what "live" demo TomofOz is speaking of.  I know that the orchestra tracks for Sherry! were recorded overseas in 2000.  Several cast members came, went and came back, strictly at the begging behest of Mr. Lipton.  It has taken this long to get everyone's vocals recorded and mixed.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 03:32:41 PM
She can't give karma until she becomes a junior member. Once there, she'll see the "applaud" and "boo" buttons she can use to give and take karma.

Is it 25 posts that makes you a junior member. I've forgotten. I know Gods are supposed to know everything, but I'm also an OLD god who is sometimes forgetful.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 11, 2004, 03:32:55 PM
DR Robin_Anderson once you reach 25 posts you will be able to give/take away Karma points...you have some now!
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 03:34:44 PM
By the way (BTW, in Internet lingo) can anyone help dear reader Danise figure out how to configure her PDF so she can read Benjamin Kritzer and Kritzerland without having to scroll from side to side.  She says there's a way but she's having trouble doing it.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 11, 2004, 03:40:51 PM
She can't give karma until she becomes a junior member. Once there, she'll see the "applaud" and "boo" buttons she can use to give and take karma.

Is it 25 posts that makes you a junior member. I've forgotten. I know Gods are supposed to know everything, but I'm also an OLD god who is sometimes forgetful.

Is it?

Maybe it's 15 post before you can give/take karma, then.

I know it's an incredibly low number before you can actually have "power"!

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Post by: Jason on January 11, 2004, 03:43:00 PM
It's 25...

Senorita Lavadora was not at the laundromat today. Perhaps I went so late that she had already come and gone and worked her evil doings. Nonetheless, all the dryers were full, so I still had to wait.

I may be going out with some friends tonight, so I doubt that I'll make the chat, but if I'm home, I'll be there for a bit.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 11, 2004, 03:43:45 PM
Regardless, I'm looking forward to hearing SHERRY!

Me, too!  And what a vocal cast!

Hope it's good!

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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 03:43:57 PM
Now that Valentine candy is starting to show up in stores, I'd like to ask a favor of the DRs here.

Several years ago, my local grocery store carried a candy called "Sour Cherries" during the Valentine's season. These were the best, non-chocolate littla candies I have ever eaten. They came in sacks like jelly beans (probably 10 or 12 oz. cellophane sacks), and were round, red cherry flavored chewy candies. Could you folks be on the lookout for them. No one around here has carried them in years, and they are simply scrumptuous. Thanks.
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 03:45:37 PM
How's this for merriment and mirth and laughter and legs: The crybaby who runs another DVD site has now somehow made it so I cannot even access his message board to read posts, because he is afraid I will make merciless fun when, as per ususal, either he or his readers continue to make the off-putting errors they make.  Of course, when said errors are pointed out to them, they simply delete the posts, never apologize for their errors and behave like little schoolyard babies.  They deserve to be made merciless fun of and apparently they wish me to be the one to do it.  I gave the despot one chance and one chance only to apologize for coming down on me for something that I was proven to be correct about.  When someone posted to the effect that I was proven to be correct, their post was removed.  And now I see that they have arrived here at HHW and are merrily searching our site for references to them by name.  Oops (spoo, spelled backwards) - I have no need or interest to mention them by name.  They know who they are, and, of course, I like it this way because I could be talking about any number of people and/or sites.  Oops.  So, search away, crybabies, we're happy to have you visit our site.  Perhaps you'll learn something while you're here.  And do visit our new DVD site because I KNOW you'll learn something there.  Oh, and just a little information - there is no way to keep me from reading the discussion board if I so choose - of course, I mean to say you can block the computer I'm on NOW, but there are other computers and Internet devices located in my home environment.  Oops.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 11, 2004, 03:45:56 PM
JRand53,  remind me to tell you my Mary Astor story sometime.  Can't today; too convuluted and involved.  Nevertheless let me say she is one of my favourite actresses and much underrated by Hollywood.  Just got back from an invigorating walk on this glorious day.  Should have worn shorts; it was so warm (sorry, you snow bunnies).  Dropped in on several open houses which is my thing to do on a Sunday afternoon.  I've probably seen half the houses in Los Feliz.  It's amazing the prices on these properties these days.  I should sell and just move back East and retire on the profit.
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Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 03:46:31 PM
Nor sure if this is useful but it is a 2 CD set.
Sherry
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 03:47:04 PM
I'm looking forward to hearing Sherry! too, although I've heard all the songs and it never quite reaches the heights of its title tune.  But, I adore Mr. Rosenthal and would buy anything he did.
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Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 03:49:30 PM
Sorry the image is so poor. The colour would  not scan today!
Engineer : Michael Glazier
Mastering etc: McVicker/Piazza/Audio Paint NYC
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Post by: Danise on January 11, 2004, 03:50:01 PM
Thanks, Bruce but I don't think anyone here could help me with my Personal Digial Friend because it's not a friend, it's a Personal Digital Assistant!   :D  Maybe that's the whole problem.  I need it to be friend first!

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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 03:52:56 PM
PDA, PDF, what do I know from PDs?  I just thought one of our technohainsies might be able to talk you through it.  But, as long as you can read it via scrolling, I guess that's all that counts.

Should we can the chat tonight?  Can ANYONE make it?  I've only heard from the nays not the yays.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 03:53:33 PM
Remember the tongue slip Ed Sullivan made when introducing Dolores Gray from the audience to give a plug to SHERRY!

In his usual stammering manner, he remarked, "In our audience tonight is the actress currently starving at the Alvin Theatre in SHERRY - Miss DOlores Gray." He caught himself saying "Starving" rather than "starring" and laughed about it on-air. Dolores laughed too, but I wonder if after the broadcast, she had a stink bomb sent to Ed.
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Post by: Robin on January 11, 2004, 04:09:42 PM
Should we can the chat tonight?  Can ANYONE make it?  I've only heard from the nays not the yays.

Oh, can the chatter 'bout canning the chat.  I can be there.  And I'm sure others will show up, too.  
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Post by: JMK on January 11, 2004, 04:13:33 PM
Tomovoz, it is the General M.B. Kauffman Building at Ft. Lewis, and, coincidentally, it is also the General M.B. Kauffman Building at Ft. Douglas (SLC, Utah) which houses the Ft. Douglas Military Museum which my father founded.  You Olympics fans saw (but may not have known you had seen) Ft. Douglas during the SLC Olympics, as it was used for the Olympic Village.  Ft. Douglas was saved from destruction by my father.  There is an excellent documentary about Ft. Douglas produced by SLC PBS affiliate which has a very nice and touching segment on my father.  I was a technical consultant on the documentary.  I am very proud of the fact that my father was one of the first, and to this day still one of the only, Jews in American military history to make the rank of General.

Re:  Sherry!.  I have a real live recording of the real live Broadway cast.  I can't currently recall if it's Sanders or Revill, however (methinks Sanders).
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Post by: Laura II on January 11, 2004, 04:14:58 PM
Uncle Woody: I would love to eventually do a theatre night with some people in the area! 'Twould be great fun! :)

Re Chat: I have an essay to write (to send out tomorrow), and as I'm a procrastinator, I started today. I may or may not make it tonight, and if I do, it will be late.
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Post by: George on January 11, 2004, 04:15:06 PM
Why, oh why do I actually choose to do these things? ???  Today, I helped my sister and her boyfriend carry one of those Craftsmatic-like Adjustable Beds (actually it was an "Electromatic" brand adjustable bed--"Quality Since 1964!") UP the stairs inside his apartment.  Those things are heavy! :o The real problem (other than the weight of the damn thing) was that his stairs have a corner bend and he has a couple of shelves in the corner which take up maneuvering room.  Trying to get around the corner without gashing up all his records and CDs was not the easiest thing.  But we took it one step at a time (literally).  After getting the darned thing up each step, we had to pause for a minute or so until each of us got our breath.  Where it went, I'll never know. ::)

Anyway, as a thank you, they're taking me out to dinner at a local pizza place. ;D We're going to meet there at 5:00, so I'll probably not be back at 6:00 for the start of chat.  But I'll check in as soon as I get home to see if chat is still going on.
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Post by: JMK on January 11, 2004, 04:16:35 PM
I think I may have mentioned this before on the old Board, but Ft. Douglas is the only Fort in American history built to protect the Indians from the settlers (no joke).  The Mormons were threatening to secede from the U.S. and create their own nation due to polygamy being outlawed and the Feds came in to keep everything calm.
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Post by: JMK on January 11, 2004, 04:25:55 PM
Verse 2:
Ohhhhh Tacoma
Where the rooms are all encased in foil
That's aluminum
Now don't play dumb--
To remove it just engage a moyel

(I have no idea what that means, but it rhymes, which seems to be the major criterion for some of the lyrics in Wicked).  :)
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Post by: George on January 11, 2004, 04:29:52 PM
I got the call, we're going to pizza early!  So, I might (mind you, I said might--a Tom Lehrer reference) be able to make it to chat on time.  But I'll definitely log in as soon as I get home.  Until then!
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Post by: Noel on January 11, 2004, 04:39:20 PM
I'm in complete agreement that there are individual lines of dialogue in The Maltese Falcon that are pure gems.  And a slew of wonderful character actors, some of whom were also in Casablanca.

What's missing for me is any real emotion watching the film.   I don't find it intriguing, or exciting.  I don't worry what will happen to the characters or give much thought to what might happen next.  Yes, they toss off great bon mots, but the plot's leaving me cold.  (There was no rhyme in that last sentence.)
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Post by: Michael on January 11, 2004, 04:39:46 PM
No chat for me tonight. ALIAS in high definition is on at 9 p.m. First ALIAS in weeks cannot be missed. Supposedly, we're going to find out answers to many of the mysteries we've been puzzling over since the start of this season. Can't wait.

Couldn't you video tape it or TIVO (if you have that) and have it in HiDef?
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Post by: SwishySarah on January 11, 2004, 04:42:35 PM
I will be at chat! Not sure for how LONG, since I should do some homework tonight, but I have two hours to do that at the moment.

BTW I love the book design, BK! Someone made a good comment the other day that the pictures of the book show growing maturity in Benjamin. I STILL have to get Kritzerland!! Agh! One of these days. Can one buy it with cash, or does it have to be credit?

So the spring musical for Broad Run HS this year is *trumpets, drum roll, etc*...............

Camelot.

I've never seen it, but I've heard that, obviously, there are waaaay more male roles than female. Which is a HUGE problem for our school. Should be interesting. I can guarantee I won't get Guenevere, because the girl who was the lead in DRACULA this fall is PERFECT for the role. I'll be aiming a little lower than that, and hoping I'm not in the chorus. Again. (!!!!!!!)

So, Jose, can you give me details? If you'd rather not post them on the board and bore everyone, feel free to email.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 04:44:09 PM
Thanks for the information JMK. Of course I had to do some thinking before I realised what SLC was. I thought it was South London Council.
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Post by: JMK on January 11, 2004, 04:46:08 PM
Tomovoz--what would you do with PDX (that's airport-speak for Portland)?  LOL.
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Post by: Danise on January 11, 2004, 04:50:15 PM
PDA, PDF, what do I know from PDs?  I just thought one of our technohainsies might be able to talk you through it.  But, as long as you can read it via scrolling, I guess that's all that counts.

Should we can the chat tonight?  Can ANYONE make it?  I've only heard from the nays not the yays.

Well, you get points for geting the first two letter right anyway.  I'm teasing you.  It was very nice of you to ask.  I'm not a techie either.   Trekie  but not a Techie by any stretch of the imagination.

I can make chat for a little while.  
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Post by: Robin on January 11, 2004, 05:06:42 PM
But, I adore Mr. Rosenthal and would buy anything he did.

Based solely upon his film scores, CDs of which are fixtures in my disc player, I am very much looking forward to this set.  
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Post by: Robin on January 11, 2004, 05:07:34 PM
Ooooh...I'm the first one on Page Seven!
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Post by: Jane on January 11, 2004, 05:11:33 PM
Oh btw, I found something so exciting today.  I found about a hundred different charms at the Un Dollar Ou Deux (Buck or Two) dollar stores. I got 7 new ones, for $2 each. Yeah!

(okay nobody else cares, but I can still be happy, right?)

I care.  :)  That is a great buy.  Do any of your charms have personal meaning to you or are they just for fun?
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Post by: Danise on January 11, 2004, 05:14:07 PM
Sounds charming.  

What kind are they?  
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 11, 2004, 05:15:52 PM
Good evening!

<aahhh-chooo!>

I might be at chat, I might not... I'm about to head out to dinner because...

Around 4:00 I decided to start "cleaning my room" again.  However, around 4:15, I decided to rearrange my room.  And, somehow, for some totally unknown reason, around 4:30-ish, I decided to take the A/C window unit out of my window/room - mainly because I never use it, AND it was given to my roommate by his parents, and since he already had an A/C unit in his bedroom... -Oh, and we have Central Air in the apartment....

So, needless to say, I've been dealing with lots of dust over the past couple of hours.  BUT the room looks pretty good, even in it's not-quite-put-back-together state.  And the big, heavy, awkward to move A/C unit is sitting in the hallway right now - waiting to be pushed into the hall closet.

And I was even to arrange all the major pieces of furniture so I won't have to move my dresser anymore to access one of my closets....-don't ask...

Well... I'll be back later, and see if the chat is still going on, but I can't make any promises... I'm sensing a beer and/or cocktail in my near future. ;)
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jane on January 11, 2004, 05:19:02 PM
Feel better, DR Jane! (Warning: Seeing PAYCHECK, from what I hear, might bring back the shakes.)

Very funny.   ;D Watch for my next post.
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Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 05:19:29 PM
I don't know what and where JMK but I know that it Pre Dates Xmas.
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Post by: Jennifer on January 11, 2004, 05:20:35 PM
Here is what is amusing, Jennifer: I had sixty-eight karma points (meaningless, of course, but there you are) - three of them disappeared, then two came back, and now one is missing.  I will only say that to think that I don't know who is doing what on this site would be folly.

Well I'm glad you got them back.  But how can you know who the culprits are.  Personally in my case I would really like to know.  I guess I'm okay with it if I just think of it as people saying they disagree with me.  But for some reason I seem to always think about it as people thinking I'm giving my opinion in a disrespectful way. Oh well. I was down one, then back up and now down one again.  Hey I must be improving a bit, since it used to depress me :)
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jennifer on January 11, 2004, 05:26:30 PM
Quote from: Jennifer on Today at 01:18:51pm

I wrote:
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Oh btw, I found something so exciting today.  I found about a hundred different charms at the Un Dollar Ou Deux (Buck or Two) dollar stores. I got 7 new ones, for $2 each. Yeah!

(okay nobody else cares, but I can still be happy, right?)
 
 


I care.  :)  That is a great buy.  Do any of your charms have personal meaning to you or are they just for fun?

Okay since you asked.  They had about 100 different ones. But nothing too exciting. I got 2 crystal diamond flowers (one diamond color and one light blue). I got a little diamond (my birthstone).  I got a little charm that says "sexy" (for HHW, since I see that on all my posts). I also got one that says "princess" which is another nickname.

I think I bought 7. Just whichever ones caught my eye.
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Post by: Jane on January 11, 2004, 05:28:29 PM
Matt I did go out, just passed on a quality movie. We were the only people in the theater today.  It was fun, feet up and we didn’t have to whisper.  Paycheck kept me distracted and I didn’t get bored.  How is that for a recommendation?  Robin, as we walked out of the theater Keith asked me if we have ever liked Ben Affleck in anything.

Thanks LauraII and Jennifer.  I was pretty sick last night.  I think it was a reaction to something I took.

Jennifer I will let you answer Danise’s question.
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 05:30:03 PM
Swisher, of course Kritzerland can be had for casharooni.  We accept all forms of payment including food.  e me for details.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 05:30:22 PM
Chat in a mere half-hour.
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Post by: Jennifer on January 11, 2004, 05:30:41 PM
Okay I could have watched Alias at 7pm, but did not (was watching Trading Spaces Family). I need to go watch it now.

If I can make it to chat, it will be late.

But everyone have fun. Ciao for now.
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Post by: Danise on January 11, 2004, 05:34:50 PM
Thanks LauraII and Jennifer.  I was pretty sick last night.  I think it was a reaction to something I took.

Jennifer I will let you answer Danise’s question.


Jane, I'm sorry you were ill last night.  Lord knows I've been, there done that enough lately myself.  If feels good to feel good for a change, if you know what I mean.  

I think Jennifer answered my question.  I guess I should have said type of charm not kind of charms.  I thought they might be little animals or something like that.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 05:55:25 PM
Chat will be open momentarily.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 11, 2004, 05:59:04 PM
A Star is Born.....  And now The Nun's Story....
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 06:00:36 PM
Chat is open - be there or be round.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jrand73 on January 11, 2004, 06:01:33 PM
DRCHARLESPOGUE - I can hardly wait to hear your Mary Astor story!  She wrote a gossipy autobio in the early 1950's called MY STORY and a very good later autobio called A LIFE ON FILM (I think)....filled with great stories and detail about her life and work.  Her response to her bank teller's question: "What was it like to kiss Clark Gable?" is priceless.

She is at Holy Cross Cemetery on Slauson Avenue very close to .... Allison Hayes!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 11, 2004, 06:07:42 PM
Noel, to each their own...I love the Maltese Falcon... eccentric characters, eccentric performances.  It also is a fairly accurate distillation of the book and catches the tone and colour of Hammett.  Are you a fan of noir and mysteries in general?
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Post by: Michael on January 11, 2004, 06:12:36 PM
DRCHARLESPOGUE - I can hardly wait to hear your Mary Astor story!  She wrote a gossipy autobio in the early 1950's called MY STORY and a very good later autobio called A LIFE ON FILM (I think)....filled with great stories and detail about her life and work.  Her response to her bank teller's question: "What was it like to kiss Clark Gable?" is priceless.

She is at Holy Cross Cemetery on Slauson Avenue very close to .... Allison Hayes!

her infamous diary had to be burned as it was considered to be pornographic.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 11, 2004, 06:16:58 PM
Imagine what TCB's must read like!
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 06:40:47 PM
Chat is amazing - currently seventeen people being madcap and divoon.  Join in!
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Post by: Noel on January 11, 2004, 06:48:12 PM
This time, a different set of computer problems (on a different computer) made it impossible for me to chat.  Computer froze.  Rusty for lack of use, perhaps.

Clearly, this is AOL's pesky problem, now HHW's.
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 11, 2004, 07:20:37 PM
I'm gonna have pancakes!   :D :D :D :D :D

As for "Which Chaplin," I watched The Great Dictator.  Good satire, and Chaplin never could be topped when it came to physical schtick.  There were, to my more modern eye and ear, scripting problems.  I felt that the character of Benzino Napaloni (Jack Oakie) should have been introduced earlier, and that the pacing could have been faster in the final third of the film.  Also, the obvious character switch at the end was too abrupt.  Still, there was a lot of good material in the film.

One surprise: the music was by the Music Man himself, Meredith Wilson!  (Well, co-written by Wilson and Chaplin, but credited to Wilson.)  This was an aspect of Wilson's career I wasn't aware of before.

I think I've also discovered the real flaw in watching films on DVD, or on tape for that matter.  It's too easy to put them on pause, and step away to do something else, like go to the bathroom, get something to drink, write a thank-you note to Auntie Bella for the pralines she sent.  And yes, I'm guilty of doing this.  

But films aren't designed to be watched this way.  I'm not sure what the solution is for this problem.  Yeah, sure, it takes a kind of guts we weren't required to have a generation ago.  Back then, the only guts required were a strong bladder.  It's one of those willpower things, I guess.
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Post by: Jane on January 11, 2004, 07:21:50 PM
Jane, I'm sorry you were ill last night.  Lord knows I've been, there done that enough lately myself.  If feels good to feel good for a change, if you know what I mean.  

I think Jennifer answered my question.  I guess I should have said type of charm not kind of charms.  I thought they might be little animals or something like that.


Yea, I know what you mean.  Good vibes to staying healthy.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 07:34:00 PM
Couldn't you video tape it or TIVO (if you have that) and have it in HiDef?


Nope, I'd get a lovely black screen. There is no commercially available home DVD recorder that can record high definition pictures, or if there is, MINE can't do it.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on January 11, 2004, 07:34:39 PM
JRand -- Holy Cross on Slauson! That's where Bing Crosby, Lawrence Welk, and EVEYLYN NESBIT are.

I like that as an exclamatory. "Holy Cross on Slauson!"
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Michael on January 11, 2004, 07:35:58 PM
It is interesting to point out that of February 21/2002 Bruce had this to say about February 20/2002

I was so pleased to see that we achieved twenty count them twenty posts yesterday. I feel we are coming into our own, at long last. So, tell your friends, tell your neighbors, tell the man on the street or the woman in the window to all come to haineshisway.com every day. Visit in the morning with your morning cup of coffee or Diet Coke, come at noon and eat your lunch here, or visit us after your evening repast of cheese slices and ham chunks. And post, post, post

We've come a long way baby
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 07:42:04 PM
ALIAS was as mind blowing as ever with surprises every minute, lots and lots of information to sift through quickly putting pieces of a season long puzzle together, and a twist at the end that was jaw-dropping. And the preveiws for next week, WOW!
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 07:52:50 PM
Matt, baby, haven't you tivod the season?  I won't start watching until I've seen the other episodes.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 07:53:46 PM
THE MALTESE FALCON, for me one of the two or three best mystery films ever made. Such a collection of memorable characters involved in a plot that kept me at least thoroughly engrossed, continually perplexed, and constantly satisfied with such sharp, tight writing and masterful direction.

Boy, was the 1940s a great decade for mysteries! You've got several Philip Marlowe mysteries: MURDER MY SWEET, THE LADY IN THE LAKE, THE BIG SLEEP, plus the sensational AND THEN THERE WERE NONE. Plus those Sherlock Holmes mysteries over in Universal's B-unit, the Chans at Fox (forget the Monogram ones later); MGM had three more THIN MANs in the 1940s, all very entertaining. And Lorre and Greenstreet did two more wonderful mysteries at Warners that lots of people have forgotten: THE VERDICT and THE MASK OF DIMITRIOS. And don't forget MILDRED PIERCE which certainly contains a degree of mystery in it.

And these are just the ones off the top of my head.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 07:57:08 PM
Sorry, bk. I've been watching them all live, so I haven't recorded any of them. But there have been so many twists and surprises in Season 3 that I'll have to get the Season 3 box of discs just to go back over all the episodes to see if all these pieces really do fit together. It's really mind boggling where the show has been taken.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 11, 2004, 08:05:41 PM
Chat sparkled. And Alias, with its twists and turns, was exhausting. (We get it at 6 pm (from Halifax).)
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 08:07:26 PM
Chat will be shutting down in a few moments - then we're back to our lovely posts.  Chat, of course, was sparkling.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 11, 2004, 08:10:22 PM
DR Matt,

I too was wondering if all the pieces do fit together, what with the flashbacks, and who knew what and when, and what side was he/she on at that point in time, and was he really missing a hand (and was it the left or right?) when last we saw him? I imagine they have editors verifying all the details, but it is like a jigsaw puzzle.
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Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 08:12:30 PM
I've never seen Alias. Guess I should try and catch up.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 11, 2004, 08:14:32 PM
I'm wondering if DR MAttH, or any other forum member, watched and recorded A&E's Breakfast with the Arts this morning.

There were supposed to be visits from the cast of "Wicked", plus something on "LOTR:TROTK".

I kept making little mental notes to set up my TV to record it, and then totally forgot about it in the wake of figure skating euphoria.
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Post by: Jed on January 11, 2004, 08:21:53 PM
Quite the lively and sparkling chat tonight.  Hadn't had trouble keeping up in quite awhile... it was fun!

Never seen ALIAS, and I'm afraid it's one of those shows that would be difficult to jump in to midway.  Perhaps when it hits syndication in another 2 years.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 08:23:33 PM
DR Ron said:  "I kept making little mental notes to set up my TV to record it, and then totally forgot about it in the wake of figure skating euphoria."


Same here, I'm sad to say. I meant to set everything up last night before I went to bed, and when I went downstairs, I got the idea I wanted to watch the ladies' free programs again, so I did, and that totally took my mind off setting up my equipment to catch it. Sorry! Maybe someone else remembered.

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Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 08:27:37 PM
You're right, DR Jed. You would be hopelessly lost if you just turned on your TV next Sunday and tried to watch. This is one reason ALIAS isn't any higher rated than it is. At this point, you'd need to see the first two years on DVD and then get a friend who could tell you every twist and turn that's happened thus far this year to catch you up: a tall order not easily accomplished.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Matt H. on January 11, 2004, 08:39:11 PM
Well, I'm a bit earlier than usual, but since I was up very late last night, I'm going to try for an earlier bedtime tonight. Good night, all.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 08:49:22 PM
What is this early bedtime.  Next, we'll have to start serving you Ovaltine.  

I'm up, baby,  up and at 'em.  I'm here and ready and willing and able, not necessarily in that order.  I am a fountain of energy and a hotbed of activity.  

I am, in short, insane.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 08:49:43 PM
Perhaps our late-night denizens will be along shortly.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 09:02:51 PM
Yes, you resident Tacomans, I know the "Aroma" factor has been improved.  I am old enough to remember having to try to hold my breath every time we drove past Aroma--er, Tacoma, especially when my Dad would go to Ft. Lewis (where there is, I am proud to say, a building a named after him).

The PXMK?
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Post by: SwishySarah on January 11, 2004, 09:05:45 PM
Last time I checked, Bruce had e-mail.

:)

I am up and thinking about going DOWN, as *I* am on the east coast, and on the east coast it is MIDNIGHT. I iz sleepy.

I wish I could help you all with your TIVO issues, but I don't program it, I just watch what my dad has it record for me. Which is all of three shows: The Real World, Conan O'Brien, and Dr. Phil. I couldn't tell you how to use that stupid remote. Too many buttons. I want "Channel Up" "Channel Down" "Volume Up" "Volume Down", "Record" "Don't Record", the numbers, and a power button. That is IT.

Is it sad that I'm supposed to be the one who is technology-enlightened, and I can't even handle a remote? I am a failure to my generation.

Chat was fun, although I got kicked out, and by the time I got back in, it was empty! I was gone for 5 minutes MAXIMUM!

And to those who heard my "Starbucks guy" story, and promptly left, please don't think I would EVER do something like that. It was merely for the humor of the situation. I am a good girl :).

If I don't get an email in 10-15 minutes, I'm crashing. Too tired to stay awake much longer. I mean, we discussed this in chat: I'm ancient! Y'all were talking and using them new fangled technology things. I done my book learnin' and thats that, ain't got no time to learn 'bout them new things like PDF and porterble tellyphones and whatnot. You young folk with your bumping and grinding and space toys. Kids these days. Why, when *I* was your age...

*This could go on forever...*
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jennifer on January 11, 2004, 09:12:19 PM
DR MattH: I loved Alias as well. I will send you a private message about it (so as not to spoil anything for BK).

But BK you must get the first episodes of this season.

And for those who have never seen the show. Buy/rent/borrow the first 2 seasons on DVD!

Btw, I did see the A&E special on Wicked (although I was so tired last night that i taped over Judging Amy (and I never do that)).  It was quite good.  They had a sit down chat with both Kristin and Idina.  They showed a bit from two numbers (one being "Popular").
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: SwishySarah on January 11, 2004, 09:20:27 PM
I suppose I should start checking my mail a bit more frequently. :)!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 09:22:29 PM
TCB, when did you live in Portland? And what part of town?

Unfortunately (for me), Michael, I lived in Portland before you had even reached puberty.  I lived in SE Portland (122nd & Powell) back in 1971 and 72.  I worked as an Assistant Manager of a shoe store in a little shopping center called Mall 206.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Jay on January 11, 2004, 09:27:59 PM
I had dinner tonight at Coco's (not my favorite, by a longshot, but it's close and convenient and I didn't feel like cooking or schlepping tonight) and I was served by--I kid you not--a Gomer Pyle clone.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 09:32:03 PM
Did he have a Rock Hudson clone with him?
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Post by: Jay on January 11, 2004, 09:35:04 PM
Did he have a Rock Hudson clone with him?

How I wish!  Afraid not, though.
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Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 09:37:44 PM
I guess we all dream of "Pillow Talk" with Rock.
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Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 09:38:02 PM
DR TCB,
We also met Eva Gabor, whose autobiography Patty once found in a second-hand-book store. More interesting than the book (Orchids and Salami - the two things Eva kept in her refrigerator) was the inscription, to Mary Margaret McBride (who would have been alive at the time of the find): "To Mary Margaret McBride, who has giving [sic] me so much. Love, Eva." To this day, Patty and I use the "giving me" line.

Back in 1969 (when I was barely out of kindergarten), I attend a National Radio and Television Convention in Washington D.C.  While there I had a chance to meet Zsa Zsa Gabor.  I, of course, had seen her for years on all of the talk shows and had never been impressed, but I must confess that at that time she was one of the most beautiful women I had ever met.  She moved in this haze of perfume (which at the time was sexy) and when I spoke with her, she made me feel like I was the only other person alive on the planet.  It was quite a memorable moment in my life, as corny as that may sound.
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Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 09:40:10 PM
Maybe I should have made that past tense.
Useless information: Jim Nabors had a #1 song in Australia with his version of "The Impossible Dream" (1968).
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 09:40:36 PM
Actually that isn't correct.  Lipton went and got Angel involved because of the star power his gig was able to get him.  The recording was produced by Robert Sher who is notorious for his CDs taking three or four years to come out (Breakfast at Tiffany's, Mata Hari - in fact, I was told he'd still be mixing the Papermill Follies had it not been taken from him by the powers that be).

I must have known Robert Sher when I was young, because it took me three or four years to come out, too.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Laura II on January 11, 2004, 09:45:27 PM
I'm upset that I missed the Wicked stuff on A&E! ::pouting::

I can vouch for the fact that Sarah is a VERY good girl. She was only teasing. :)

Drew leaves tomorrow to go back to school! :( ::sigh:: We were getting even closer too! Hopefully we'll maintain this level of friendship.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: td on January 11, 2004, 09:47:07 PM
I must have known Robert Sher when I was young, because it took me three or four years to come out, too.
Ah, but once you did, nothing, nothing was the same!
Thank goodness for people like you TCB!   ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: td on January 11, 2004, 10:03:34 PM
http://www.mrpicassohead.com/ (http://www.mrpicassohead.com/)

Thanks to janis ian, I found this fun thing to do. . .try it dear readers!  you, too, can be picasso!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: td on January 11, 2004, 10:07:31 PM
http://www.hurtwood.demon.co.uk/Fun/copter.swf (http://www.hurtwood.demon.co.uk/Fun/copter.swf)

another one from ms. ian's site. . .oy, vey! thank God I never wanted to be a pilot.
this game is too addicting.

hey! It's free-for-all sunday, isn't it? ? ?
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 11, 2004, 10:07:58 PM
Good evening!

I'm sorry I missed the chat.  However, I'm not sorry that I got the big, bulky window A/C unit into the hall closet - and, consequently rearranged the contents of the hall closet.  I'm not sorry that I got "everything" back in my room - I'll do more sorting, organizing, ditching and recycling tomorrow... and for a few more days after that...

Right now, I'm just hoping that I won't wake up too sore... Nothing feels sore now, but... The room looks pretty good!

So, I showered all the dust off my body - and, hopefully, there won't be too much in the air tonight while I'm sleeping - or trying to sleep...

Oh, and dinner was a nice, 1/2 pound (!) Angus beef hamburger.  Sooooo good.  With good, thick cut bacon, and white cheddar too!  Oh, the fries had salt, pepper and parmesan on them!  YUMMY!!!  -And since I splurged on the meal, I was good when it came to my beverage - Diet Vanilla Coke.

OK - I'm rambling.. and tuckered out.  See you in the morning!

Goodnight.
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Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 10:09:34 PM
Late-night denizens!  That's what I'M talkin' about.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: td on January 11, 2004, 10:11:02 PM
Are you calling me a denizen!? ! ?! ? !  ???

Should I be insulted? ? ?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Laura II on January 11, 2004, 10:18:03 PM
Ok, I am so distracted! I must finish my work, so I shall bid you all adieu!
Perhaps I'll be back. If not, talk to you all tomorrow!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 10:18:58 PM
She moved in this haze of perfume (which at the time was sexy) and when I spoke with her, she made me feel like I was the only other person alive on the planet.  
Sounds like my mother! (I think she knew Zsazsa way back when.) She certainly had the accent.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 10:26:07 PM
My mother was married three times -- and had many romantic liaisons. A couple of years before her death, she reconnected by letter with her fiancé from when she was a young woman. His parents had sent him to South America to begin a business and she didn't want to go, so they broke up. When they reconnected by mail they were both in their seventies and he was married and a grandfather. But his letters to her (which I found after her death) were incredibly passionate - saying things like "Panni should have been our child."
...Those Hungarian women!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 10:34:04 PM
Well, we do have four for bridge........ except I don't know how to play.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 10:39:04 PM
Sorry, I was hiding under the bridge for a moment - don't ask!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 10:41:43 PM
Poker?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 10:43:58 PM
I'm eating an apple i bought this morning at the Farmers Market. And it's one of the best apples I've ever had.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 10:45:56 PM
Poker?

I don't know, Panni, you came up with that suggestion pretty quickly.  I think I am being hussled.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 10:48:18 PM
Sorry, I was hiding under the bridge for a moment - don't ask!

So, how are things under the bridge, Billy Goat Gruff?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 10:48:40 PM
You're too smart for me, TCB.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 10:52:25 PM
Just the same old trolls around TCB. I should know better than to even look.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 10:54:43 PM
td: Have you checked with TCB (the ever reliable) about that package you wanted from OZ?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 10:56:36 PM
td: Have you checked with TCB (the ever reliable) about that package you wanted from OZ?

What package?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 10:58:26 PM
New he'd say that td.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Panni on January 11, 2004, 11:01:27 PM
G'night, all.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 11:06:04 PM
Say, whare's our late-night denizens?  This is a ghost town, pardners.  Any minute tumbling tumbleweed will come whizzin' by.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 11:11:37 PM
We've got eleven GUESTS and two people?  That doesn't seem right somehow.  Just who are these GUESTS and what in tarnation are they doing here when we don't even have posters?  Come out of the woodwork you GUESTS.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Ann on January 11, 2004, 11:13:59 PM
I come from a place where tumbleweed actually does ocasionally blow by.  DR jed will back me up.

I am currently sitting in the lap of luxury, at least in my eyes.  I am lying in bed, with my laptop, watching a DVD and surfing the net.  SO fun...and comfy too!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Ann on January 11, 2004, 11:14:55 PM
Hey, I have been Karmalized!  yay! :D
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 11:15:38 PM
Memo to td:  

Re: The Subject Previously Under Discussion

Reply:  Not a chance in Hell!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 11:16:59 PM
I am so confused. Too much time under that bridge. Panni says Goodnight and everyone else goes. If I say I believe in fairies will everyone return. Panni you have so much power.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: TCB on January 11, 2004, 11:19:31 PM
Well, BK, Ann, and Ozzie; I apologize, but I must head off to bed.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 11:21:11 PM
Is there a connection between Tumbleweed and Jed that I am missing here DR Ann? Is he a flibbity jibbit, a willow- the-wisp, a clown?
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Ann on January 11, 2004, 11:22:15 PM
How about a late night pic to brighten things up? :)
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 11:22:39 PM
And I am off to a Bear's picnic. OK a Bear's birthday. Goodnight all.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Ann on January 11, 2004, 11:23:15 PM
The view from the edge of the balcony, btw
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 11:25:11 PM
Great photo Ann.
bye.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: Tomovoz on January 11, 2004, 11:25:42 PM
Someone else living on the edge!
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: bk on January 11, 2004, 11:42:47 PM
Panni is BUSY, that's her thing.  Well, 270 posts is a record-setter for a Sunday on this board.  No late-night denizens tonight, but hopefully tomorrow we'll continue our record-breaking ways.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: George on January 11, 2004, 11:58:27 PM
I got home at about 6:30 and entered the chat until 8:00.  It was quite lively and very entertaining.  Then I forgot to post afterwards.  So here it is.  Late, but better late than never.  Anway, that's my post.  I'm reading today's posts and I'm just starting page 8.  So, goodnight...if I make it before the end of today's posting.
Title: Re:SOUR CREAM
Post by: George on January 11, 2004, 11:58:59 PM
I did!  I did make it before the end of today's posting!