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Title: THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 12:20:58 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes had brio and perhaps even con brio, and now it is time for you to post until the cows come home - they're opening a salvo right now and can't be bothered.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 12:21:48 AM
And the word of the day is: PERTINACIOUS!
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Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 12:22:38 AM
And a happy haineshisway.com birthday to td's friend Evil Twin.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 12:52:48 AM
Welcome fourteen GUESTS.
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Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 12:58:47 AM
I do believe I shall now toddle off to the bedroom environment.
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Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 12:59:19 AM
I shall, however, return first thing in the morning.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on January 09, 2008, 12:59:45 AM
Report from Wonderland:

In The New Hampshire Primary Election:

Clinton won more votes than Obama; but they were close and each was awared 9 delgates to the convention.

The 5 Superdelgates were split - 2 for Clinton, 3 for Obama.

Result - Obama actually won the New Hampshire Primary!

Curiouser and curiouser....

der Brucer

And you thought only Republicans had funny accounting systems!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 01:00:06 AM
Pehaps someone will fire an opening salvo.  Yes, fire that opening salvo's butt cheeks right off the premises.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: DERBRUCER on January 09, 2008, 01:04:46 AM
Bset retire early - I will probably be awakened early by billowing smoke and wailing fire alarms. Woody has decided we shall no longer suffer the indignity of using purchased beef stock, so he shall attempt to make his own (which requires many hours of super-high temperature oven roasting of cow skeleton).

Pray for Elsie's baby

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: DERBRUCER on January 09, 2008, 01:08:34 AM
Pehaps someone will fire an opening salvo.  Yes, fire that opening salvo's butt cheeks right off the premises.

Be fore-warned: salvos are unionized and are usually well represented by expensive lawyers!

Fire a salvo at your own risk.

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 01:56:18 AM
Thank you, DR Jane!  :)

Thank you, DR Jeanne!   :)

Thanks also to DR FJL for the clip of Skip's song [in two languages, no less!] and to DR td for some more wonderful Broadway clip links.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: vixmom on January 09, 2008, 04:44:43 AM
PREAMBLE:

We the Members of HainesHisWay.com, in Order to form a more perfect Forum, establish Trusslessness, insure abject Civility, provide for the common nonsense, promote the menial Wordplay, and secure the Highest Posting Numbers for ourselves and our fellow Posters, do ordain and establish this Confabulation for the .Com of Haines His Way.





I want this on a T-Shirt


Thanks RLP!

 ;D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: vixmom on January 09, 2008, 04:45:18 AM
Just heard about the weather in Indiana... Jack are you are OK?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: vixmom on January 09, 2008, 04:45:57 AM
I finally come back and the jernt's empty
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Post by: vixmom on January 09, 2008, 04:46:10 AM
maybe they all saw me coming....
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Post by: Ben on January 09, 2008, 05:02:50 AM
Hi, Deb and Tom.
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Post by: Ben on January 09, 2008, 05:03:47 AM
Hey, Deb, you're a good quarter resource. I don't know if you saw an earlier post about it. Have you come across any Utah quarters? I haven't seen ANY yet. I usually have one by now but I've been to three banks and no one seems to have any!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ben on January 09, 2008, 05:06:17 AM
We went computer browsing last night. I will buy the system from Dell on-line using my company discount but there is a Dell gift store in Manhattan right now. They opened in December and they are here until January 15th. Anthony wanted to see what a possible system might look like so we toddled over and browsed. It was fun. Though I bought my last computer 3 and a half years ago things change so quickly that it's almost a whole new world (Aladdin).

I must be off to do the things I need to do.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: vixmom on January 09, 2008, 05:19:59 AM
Hey, Deb, you're a good quarter resource. I don't know if you saw an earlier post about it. Have you come across any Utah quarters? I haven't seen ANY yet. I usually have one by now but I've been to three banks and no one seems to have any!

Yup, I have one for you... email me your address again and I will get it in the mail!  ;D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: vixmom on January 09, 2008, 05:24:54 AM
Well I must hie me to the office


HEALTH, PAIN-FREE and SAFETY VIBES TO ALL!!!!!!!!
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Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 05:25:09 AM
SWING your partner, round and round!  :)
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_TmUBWwWLKUU/R4HC2ZR9uBI/AAAAAAAABF0/-s3zm6QfQk0/s400/picture4.jpg)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on January 09, 2008, 05:38:16 AM
And the word of the day is: PERTINACIOUS!

And The Song Of The Day Is: I'M AN ORDINARY MAN
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: FJL on January 09, 2008, 05:48:06 AM
Didn't we call that preamble a  pre-ramble?
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Post by: Ginny on January 09, 2008, 06:10:46 AM
Wednesday morning greetings!  I'm at work and will spend most of the day recruiting speakers for the AAUW/Ohio conference and convention.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 06:39:33 AM
Good morning, all! I've been over to the CastrecL responding to one of the posters who's become the first open victim of Mr Farrow's round of smug superiority and hostility. It's nice to see Toronto's biggest ass revealing his talents as a pompous windbag on another site besides cast.rec.arts.

Today? The NYPL and a bit of writing here on "Lady of the Slipper."  It's been erroneously reported that Peggy Wood of "Sound of Music" and Noel Coward's "Bittersweet" was the understudy for Elsie Janis since Wood was in the cast.  Actually, the beautiful Helen Falconer was the standby and in 1914 she finished the last month of the tour when Janis headed to London for an engagement.

Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ben on January 09, 2008, 06:42:45 AM
Thank you Mr. Moore for even more information on Peggy Wood. We will be busy, Ant and me!
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Post by: Jennifer on January 09, 2008, 06:58:25 AM
RE: this week's MEDIUM


SPOILERS



*
*
*





In re: to what FJL said about the girl singing the song sad.

That was the whole point!  They were showing scenes from the other story during that song.  Those events were very upsetting. So it made perfect sense (to me) for them to present the song this way.

And in terms of the teacher telling her to sing it differently.  I think it was simply supposed to be obvious that this girl was a tremendous talent. I think it was pretty clear that the girl could easily have made the song a bit more upbeat if required.

Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 07:01:37 AM
maybe they all saw me coming....

That has to be the REAL reason!   ;D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 07:03:20 AM
We went computer browsing last night. I will buy the system from Dell on-line using my company discount but there is a Dell gift store in Manhattan right now. They opened in December and they are here until January 15th. Anthony wanted to see what a possible system might look like so we toddled over and browsed. It was fun. Though I bought my last computer 3 and a half years ago things change so quickly that it's almost a whole new world (Aladdin).


DUDE!  You're getting a Dell!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 07:04:08 AM
Didn't we call that preamble a  pre-ramble?

Did we?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jennifer on January 09, 2008, 07:04:13 AM
DR MattH, I don't watch AS THE WORLD TURNS, but re: the gay storyline.

Is it possible that the writers are going slowly because they are afraid of showing gay love scenes?  I am curious how they will handle this?

Have they even really showed any kissing? Would they? Can they?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 07:05:32 AM
I'm ready for work.  So, I guess...it's time to depart.

Adieu...adieu....parting is such sweet....blah, blah, blah!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Julie on January 09, 2008, 07:10:31 AM
Good morning.
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Post by: Julie on January 09, 2008, 07:11:24 AM
I spent last night watching several of the Slings and Arrows episodes that I had Tivo'd from the marathon on New Year's Day.  I can't believe I had never watched this show before - it's fabulous.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Julie on January 09, 2008, 07:11:56 AM
DR Ben, I had no idea that Dell had a temporary store in Manhattan.  Where is it located?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Julie on January 09, 2008, 07:13:26 AM
George - Thanks so much for posting the step by step instructions for saving videos.  It looks like a very easy way to save clips from many different sites.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Julie on January 09, 2008, 07:14:09 AM
Did Obama really get more electoral votes than Clinton?  How bizarre.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 07:15:58 AM
Good morning!

More gray skies but also more warm temperatures. It was very mild outside this morning, and promises to get into the mid-to-high 60s today.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 07:18:06 AM
DR MattH, I don't watch AS THE WORLD TURNS, but re: the gay storyline.

Is it possible that the writers are going slowly because they are afraid of showing gay love scenes?  I am curious how they will handle this?

Have they even really showed any kissing? Would they? Can they?

I'm sure there will be no gay love scenes. There has been kissing. If we even see them in bed together, it would be a MAJOR change for daytime TV.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ben on January 09, 2008, 07:19:45 AM
DR Ben, I had no idea that Dell had a temporary store in Manhattan.  Where is it located?

It's on Broadway between 11th and 12th on the West side of the street. They close up shop on Tuesday January 15th. They were not busy last evening (around 4:30). I assume all the heavy traffic was in December.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 07:21:21 AM
Made the decision this morning to drop CASHMERE MAFIA (though there is a new episode tonight). I wasn't sufficiently interested in any of the characters to continue watching. I will try NBC's variation on the same themes with LIPSTICK JUNGLE next month. I like Brooke Shields more than Lucy Lui anyway.

Tonight offers new episodes of LAW & ORDER, CSI: NY, and, of course, PROJECT RUNWAY. I'll likely watch one of the two HDTV shows "live" and save PROJECT RUNWAY for tomorrow so I can speed through commercials.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 07:22:56 AM
I thought of another 2007 film that got overlooked and would like to recommend - THE LOOKOUT. Again, not a perfect movie, but it has some wonderful performances and a plot that pulls you in.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 07:24:55 AM
Today I'll begin watching another review copy, this time an animated film called DRAGONLANCE. Looks like it's inspired by Dungeons and Dragons (which I know next to nothing about), but I'll give it a look-see this afternoon.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 07:28:49 AM
If I get through DRAGONLANCE and there aren't a plethora of special features, I may try to watch BLADE RUNNER on Blu-ray tonight. I've read so many ecstatic things about the HD transfer of the film. I'll watch the final cut of the movie since I've seen the other two cuts (theatrical and director's) before.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jeanne on January 09, 2008, 07:30:02 AM
Good morning, everyone.

I believe that is all.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 07:32:16 AM
And the word of the day is: PERTINACIOUS!
PRECAUTION IS rarely the watchword when CERTAIN PIOUS types air their PERTINACIOUS views of the world.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 07:33:31 AM
I spent last night watching several of the Slings and Arrows episodes that I had Tivo'd from the marathon on New Year's Day.  I can't believe I had never watched this show before - it's fabulous.

DR Julie, Ben and I are big fans of the series as well, but my memory is that several DRs thought very little of it.

They're now releasing all three seasons in one collection with additional material; it burns my butt to have to pay for another set of this series but I may have to.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 07:34:39 AM
I'm sure there will be no gay love scenes. There has been kissing. If we even see them in bed together, it would be a MAJOR change for daytime TV.

After some of the things that idiotic soap PASSIONS pulled, it may happen.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 07:35:22 AM
I thought of another 2007 film that got overlooked and would like to recommend - THE LOOKOUT. Again, not a perfect movie, but it has some wonderful performances and a plot that pulls you in.

I forgot GONE BABY GONE, which I really liked.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 07:39:32 AM
Bset retire early - I will probably be awakened early by billowing smoke and wailing fire alarms. Woody has decided we shall no longer suffer the indignity of using purchased beef stock, so he shall attempt to make his own (which requires many hours of super-high temperature oven roasting of cow skeleton).

Pray for Elsie's baby

der Brucer

Bull!  (To slangishly refer to an appropriate beastie.)

The oven is set at a mere 400 degrees.

And I'll only be roasting the cow bones for two hours, max, adding various veg for the last forty minutes or so.  Two hours does not make "many", in my opinion.

After that, the bones go into the stock pot, along with the roasted veg and other additions.  The roasting pan gets deglazed, with the deglazing juices added to the stock pot, and then other veg and water join the mix.  This all then gets to SIMMER, not boil, for several hours.

All and all, this should be a nicely relaxing day.

But no, der Brucer has to fret and fume that I might set off the smoke alarms once again.

Oh, bother.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 07:40:38 AM
Has anyone out there ever wondered what bones Mrs. Lovett used when she made stock for the gravy she made grander with coriander?

Just asking.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 07:41:25 AM
Good Morning!

I'm up, I'm up... And I would be at the gym right now, but since I'm not really sure I slept at all last night...  I didn't really toss and turn, but just kept finding myself looking at the clock and watching the time pass.  ???
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 07:42:53 AM
maybe they all saw me coming....

Oops!  She's catching on!


 ;D
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 07:43:01 AM
...Oh, that's right... We did stop at Starbucks after dinner last night.... Hmm... :-\
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Post by: Julie on January 09, 2008, 07:45:19 AM
It's on Broadway between 11th and 12th on the West side of the street. They close up shop on Tuesday January 15th. They were not busy last evening (around 4:30). I assume all the heavy traffic was in December.

Thanks!  I can't believe I haven't noticed it - I've been in that general area several times in recent weeks.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 07:46:14 AM
SWING your partner, round and round!  :)
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_TmUBWwWLKUU/R4HC2ZR9uBI/AAAAAAAABF0/-s3zm6QfQk0/s400/picture4.jpg)
Gives new meaning to "dancing on your toes!"
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 08:04:58 AM
I forgot GONE BABY GONE, which I really liked.

It got great reviews, and I'm anticipating receiving that review copy in a few weeks.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 08:07:30 AM
Has anyone out there ever wondered what bones Mrs. Lovett used when she made stock for the gravy she made grander with coriander?

Just asking.

Perhaps not the bone you'd select. :)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 08:08:10 AM
Oops!  She's catching on!


 ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 08:10:56 AM
I haven't gone over yesterday's posts yet, so I don't know if der Brucer wrote about this, but...

Yesterday was so much fun at work.

Mainly because I hadn't been scheduled to be at work.

The week's original schedule had me showing up on Sunday and Monday, then off by myself on Tuesday through Thursday, and back to work on Friday and Saturday.  This was according to the schedule posted last Friday.

Sunday, there's a note on the daily assignments sheet asking me to check the weekly schedule again.  A few hours had been added to my schedule, on Thursday.

Yesterday, at about four-thirty in the afternoon, the telephone rang.  Could I come in to work, I was asked?  More specifically, could I come in to work from five to eleven?  I gulped, agreed, and dashed into the shower to clean up while shouting to der Brucer to get dressed so he could drive me to work (it being too cold for him to drive me just wearing his skivvies).

Somehow, a week where I was supposed to have three days off has turned into a week with just one day off.

Which is why I'm relaxing today and taking making stock.  
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 08:15:04 AM
Heading down now to clean the den, then check the mail, and then start fixing some lunch.

WBBL.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 08:17:03 AM
DRvixmom, you never did let us know the outcome of the vixter and the SWEENEY TODD film.  Did you go?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 08:17:30 AM
My bones are roasting nicely, getting brown all over.

I've just added the veg: carrots, onions, and celery - the usual suspects - plus a couple of tablespoons of tomato paste.  Another forty minutes or so, and everything should be ready for the stock pot.

Der Brucer is watching something in his room, a old movie that has some very strange sound effects.  Either that, or a flying saucer just teleported him away.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 08:18:33 AM
But first. . .

Page Three Hermione, Ron, and Harry Dance!!!


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Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 08:19:13 AM
Speaking of Sweeney, I'm still waiting to hear the results of bagger TJ and his friends watching the movie and the DVD back to back.  Our schedules didn't mesh on Sunday, so I'm waiting until the weekend.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 08:19:15 AM
And now I'm REALLY going.

:D
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 08:19:27 AM
Watching "The View"....

-"The Brecht Girl" - ?!?!?!?
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Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 08:22:17 AM
(it being too cold for him to drive me just wearing his skivvies)

Does he do this often?    :o
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 08:24:05 AM
Not often enough, IMO.

 :D
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 08:24:47 AM
That's why it's fun living in a resort town!

 8)
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 08:32:57 AM
Watching "The View"....

-"The Brecht Girl" - ?!?!?!?

Is she alienating?

Did she scream silently?

Sing "Pirate Jenny?"
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 08:41:32 AM
Wasn't Cybill Shepherd a Brecht girl?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 08:41:43 AM
;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 08:41:56 AM
Is she alienating?

Did she scream silently?

Sing "Pirate Jenny?"

I was just surprised that no one on the staff corrected them during the commercial break...  They were "educating" Elizabeth Hasselbeck(sp?) on what a "Breck Girl" was, but they kept saying "BreckT Girl"... Brecht Girl?!?!?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 08:42:10 AM
Or was that Kim Basinger?




;)  ;)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 08:42:51 AM
Does Breck even make shampoo any more?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 08:43:15 AM
Or Prell?
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 08:46:21 AM
Wasn't Cybill Shepherd a Brecht girl?

And a guest on today's show too!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 08:47:05 AM
I have to say I truly enjoyed the first new episode of "Medium", which I watched yesterday evening just before "Biggest Loser: Couples".

DR George, you were absolutely correct.  All of Ariel's rehearsal songs were for Liesl...so why was she auditioning for Maria?  She was much too young, but absolutely perfect for Liesl...or the next younger sister.

I'll admit to having been a tad put out over the sluggish "My Favorite Things" even though it came together in the end as it was quite clear they were going for a dirge to accompany the arrest of the child murderer.  It certainly did the young singer no favors in promoting her as a totally joyless Maria.

Still...I think it might have worked better had the apprehension been done as a montage under which the song was sung.  It was an interesting, if not altogether successful, approach, IMO.

Please note that "IMO".

I can't stand the prissy interim DA.  
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Julie on January 09, 2008, 08:47:26 AM
From Wikipedia:

Breck Girls
1937 Roma Whitney Armstrong at age 17, first Breck Girl
1937 Anya Taranda (1915-1970)
1968 Cheryl Tiegs
1968 Cybill Shepherd
1971, 1973 Jaclyn Smith
1972, 1974 Kim Basinger
1974 Brooke Shields
1976 Erin Gray
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 08:48:23 AM
And a guest on today's show too!

Was her hair fabulous....or a disaster?

With la Shepherd, it all depends on her mood.  I've seen her on Leno when it looked like she hadn't washed, or combed, her hair for a week.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 08:53:10 AM
I was just surprised that no one on the staff corrected them during the commercial break...  They were "educating" Elizabeth Hasselbeck(sp?) on what a "Breck Girl" was, but they kept saying "BreckT Girl"... Brecht Girl?!?!?

"Educating Elizabeth Hasselbeck" -- this should be the title of a series of "how-to" books on futile exercises.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 08:54:08 AM
It's amazing what a tablespoon or two of tomato paste can do to add some kick to things.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 08:54:45 AM
Tomato paste for meat dishes....and beef bouillon for vegetables, like green beans.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 08:57:15 AM
My bones are roasting nicely, getting brown all over.

I've just added the veg: carrots, onions, and celery - the usual suspects - plus a couple of tablespoons of tomato paste.  Another forty minutes or so, and everything should be ready for the stock pot.

Der Brucer is watching something in his room, a old movie that has some very strange sound effects.  Either that, or a flying saucer just teleported him away.


Would you explain this preliminary process of roasting bones to us (or just me)?

What kind of bones?  In a slow oven (temp., please).  And when you put everything in the stock pot, is that literally everything, including the bones?  And how long do you let that cook (on low? on high?).

Curious minds want to know!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 08:59:42 AM
My bones are in the stock pot, and roasting pan has been deglazed, all my liquid is in the pot, and I'm now set to simmer.

Ya didn't know cooking could be so personal, didja?!!?

 :)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 09:11:15 AM
Would you explain this preliminary process of roasting bones to us (or just me)?

What kind of bones?  In a slow oven (temp., please).  And when you put everything in the stock pot, is that literally everything, including the bones?  And how long do you let that cook (on low? on high?).

Curious minds want to know!

DR Ron Pulliam - Well, if you refer to his earlier post...

Bull!  (To slangishly refer to an appropriate beastie.)

The oven is set at a mere 400 degrees.

And I'll only be roasting the cow bones for two hours, max, adding various veg for the last forty minutes or so.  Two hours does not make "many", in my opinion.

After that, the bones go into the stock pot, along with the roasted veg and other additions.  The roasting pan gets deglazed, with the deglazing juices added to the stock pot, and then other veg and water join the mix.  This all then gets to SIMMER, not boil, for several hours.

All and all, this should be a nicely relaxing day.

But no, der Brucer has to fret and fume that I might set off the smoke alarms once again.

Oh, bother.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 09:13:01 AM
DR Ron Pulliam - Well, if you refer to his earlier post...

Well that showed me, all right!

Thanks, Jose!


 8)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 09:13:44 AM
Whatcha gonna do with that stock once it's finished, S. Woody?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 09:16:22 AM
Additionally, the roasting of the bones helps to develop the flavor and color of the resulting stock, and aids in the extraction of every bit of flavorful goodness in the bones.  *You can do the same thing for chicken stock - I know many a person who store chicken "skeletons" in the freezer after making and consuming a roast chicken.  -And, yes, you can also make a "dark" chicken stock by roasting the bones.

It's all about fond, caramelization, gelatin (marrow) and flavor.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jeanne on January 09, 2008, 09:16:52 AM
DR Julie, Ben and I are big fans of the series as well, but my memory is that several DRs thought very little of it.


I, too, am a fan. IIRC, people either really like it or they don't!
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 09:17:51 AM
Roasting the bones gives them a deeper flavor, like caramelizing the natural sugars, which will result in a deeper flavored stock.  It's kind of like the difference between a raw hunk of prime rib, and one that has been roasted slowly in the oven for a few hours.  Even if you like your prime rib rare, I don't think it would taste too good uncooked.

And bones can add a lot to the flavor of meat.  There's a lot of stuff in them, gelatins, marrow flavors, natural sugars and things that seep into the meat while cooking.  This is part of why a t-bone steak tastes so good.

I'm using a mix of bone types: marrow bones (from the legs), ribs, and neck bones.  There's about eight pounds worth, all told.  The ribs and neck bones still have a good amount of meat on them, which should also add nice flavor to the stock.  I roasted them for close to two hours in a 400 degree oven.

Roasting the carrots, onions, and celery ribs also caramelizes the sugars.  

After putting all the bones and veg in the stock pot, I poured off the accumulated fat from the roasting pan and then deglazed the pan with some water, and poured the deglazing liquid into the pot.  Deglazing means dissolving all the caramelized and browned good bits that have stuck to the bottom of the pan - no sense in wasting all that flavor!  I could have used wine - alcohol is a great deglazing liquid - but I didn't want the wine flavors in my stock this time around.  

Yep, the bones go into the pot.  The next step in making stock is to cover everything with water and let it all slowly simmer for several hours.  All the flavor that is in the bones and veg will slowly leach out into the water, creating stock.  And this is something that needs to be done slowly.  There are impurities and oils that will also leach out of the bones, stuff that isn't wanted.  If the water was let to boil, the impurities would incorporate into the stock, creating off-flavors.  However, since the impurities are lighter than water, they will float to the surface during the simmer, where they can be skimmed off.

The whole process of making stock isn't all that labor intensive, but it does take time.
 
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 09:20:41 AM
Roasting the bones gives them a deeper flavor, like caramelizing the natural sugars, which will result in a deeper flavored stock.  It's kind of like the difference between a raw hunk of prime rib, and one that has been roasted slowly in the oven for a few hours.  Even if you like your prime rib rare, I don't think it would taste too good uncooked.

And bones can add a lot to the flavor of meat.  There's a lot of stuff in them, gelatins, marrow flavors, natural sugars and things that seep into the meat while cooking.  This is part of why a t-bone steak tastes so good.

I'm using a mix of bone types: marrow bones (from the legs), ribs, and neck bones.  There's about eight pounds worth, all told.  The ribs and neck bones still have a good amount of meat on them, which should also add nice flavor to the stock.  I roasted them for close to two hours in a 400 degree oven.

Roasting the carrots, onions, and celery ribs also caramelizes the sugars.  

After putting all the bones and veg in the stock pot, I poured off the accumulated fat from the roasting pan and then deglazed the pan with some water, and poured the deglazing liquid into the pot.  Deglazing means dissolving all the caramelized and browned good bits that have stuck to the bottom of the pan - no sense in wasting all that flavor!  I could have used wine - alcohol is a great deglazing liquid - but I didn't want the wine flavors in my stock this time around.  

Yep, the bones go into the pot.  The next step in making stock is to cover everything with water and let it all slowly simmer for several hours.  All the flavor that is in the bones and veg will slowly leach out into the water, creating stock.  And this is something that needs to be done slowly.  There are impurities and oils that will also leach out of the bones, stuff that isn't wanted.  If the water was let to boil, the impurities would incorporate into the stock, creating off-flavors.  However, since the impurities are lighter than water, they will float to the surface during the simmer, where they can be skimmed off.

The whole process of making stock isn't all that labor intensive, but it does take time.
 



Very instructive!  Thank you!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 09:20:50 AM
...Although, it's also just as easy enough to buy a family pack of chicken wings and necks to make a stock a la minute.  Well, not quite a la minute, but at least you don't have to wait until you have a stockpile of chicken bones in your freezer if you want to make a stock "now".
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 09:22:14 AM
DR SWW - So... layers of cheesecloth? and/or a chinois?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 09:23:02 AM
This next question may seem silly, but.....

...where do you get the bones?  Do you ask for them at the butcher's counter at a local grocery?
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 09:24:09 AM
Hmm... For some reason, I think I'm the mood for cassoulet for dinner tonight.  Hmm... ;)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 09:24:42 AM
...Although, it's also just as easy enough to buy a family pack of chicken wings and necks to make a stock a la minute.  Well, not quite a la minute, but at least you don't have to wait until you have a stockpile of chicken bones in your freezer if you want to make a stock "now".

I do chicken stock several times a year when I make Brunswick stew.  I slap a chicken in a heavy pot, cover with water and let it simmer for a couple of hours.

The stock gets strained...the skin and bones get tossed...and the chicken is diced and thrown into the stewpot.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 09:26:34 AM
This next question may seem silly, but.....

...where do you get the bones?  Do you ask for them at the butcher's counter at a local grocery?

Yes.  Some larger stores will even sell them pre-packaged in the meat case.  -Actually, even my small "bodega" up the street sells "stock bones".

Otherwise, it pays to make friends with your butcher.  Or at least work in a supermarket so that you can get first dibs.  ;)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 09:29:02 AM
Additionally, the roasting of the bones helps to develop the flavor and color of the resulting stock, and aids in the extraction of every bit of flavorful goodness in the bones.  *You can do the same thing for chicken stock - I know many a person who store chicken "skeletons" in the freezer after making and consuming a roast chicken.  -And, yes, you can also make a "dark" chicken stock by roasting the bones.

It's all about fond, caramelization, gelatin (marrow) and flavor.

You'll have to show me.  Do this and have someone make a DVD of it!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jeanne on January 09, 2008, 09:29:30 AM

With la Shepherd, it all depends on her mood.  I've seen her on Leno when it looked like she hadn't washed, or combed, her hair for a week.

I can't speak for Ms Shepherd, but I did comment to my hairdresser one day that so many stars look like they never wash their hair. My hairdresser informed me that that's the style, BUT the hair is clean, ie freshly washed, then they put this goop on it. She then showed me the goop. She agreed that it looks dirty.

I think I would welcome more of the Breck look.

Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 09:31:54 AM
I'm up, a bit later than planned, but it took me a while to fall asleep last night.  Trying to de-groggify right now.
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Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 09:32:14 AM
No questions?
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Post by: Jeanne on January 09, 2008, 09:34:39 AM
Just call me old-fashioned--and getting more so!
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Post by: Jeanne on January 09, 2008, 09:36:58 AM
No questions?

We had a question, and a resulting discussion about making stock from scratch. Oh, you mean a question for YOU.

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Post by: td on January 09, 2008, 09:38:02 AM
Has anyone out there ever wondered what bones Mrs. Lovett used when she made stock for the gravy she made grander with coriander?

Just asking.

She used the bones from Mr. Corry Ander.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 09:39:16 AM
I should end up with maybe three quarts of stock when I'm finished.  I'll be divvying that into one-cup lots and freezing them, for use later.

What got me going on this was something that Michael Ruhlman wrote in his blog (which is currently down, or I'd link), about how using plain water is preferable to using canned stock when home-made stock is not available - the canned stuff, in his opinion, has terrible flavor.  Sure, I can see his point, to a degree, but I wasn't sure about how much time I wanted to spend making stock on my own.  And I couldn't see the point of making French onion soup with water instead of stock - the beefyness contributes so much of the flavor in the final soup.

But then, the next time I made FOS, I tried using a better brand of commercial stock, specifically Kitchen Basics, comes in a red box (their chicken broth is in a mustard-colored box).  If you take the time to look at the ingredients on a can of Swanson's, there's lots of additives and preservatives involved.  KB doesn't have those.  And the resulting soup was leagues better in flavor.

(Just for fun, compare the chicken stock that Swanson's makes with the stuff from KB, poured in two glasses side by side.  The stock from KB is the darker of the two by far.  And better ingredients result in better tasting food, a bit of knowledge that was lost sometime in the 1950s when manufactured food became all the rage.  Julia Child knew better, of course.)

Problem is, KB is pricy.

So, I'm trying my hand at making stock.  At about a buck per pound of marrow bones, this should be a lot cheaper than KB; plus I'm getting a base of information so I'll know how to adjust the flavor of the stock through changes in the veg used the next time I make stock.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 09:40:35 AM
DR SWW - So... layers of cheesecloth? and/or a chinois?
Cheesecloth.  I don't own a chinois... yet.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 09:42:43 AM
I do chicken stock several times a year when I make Brunswick stew.  I slap a chicken in a heavy pot, cover with water and let it simmer for a couple of hours.

The stock gets strained...the skin and bones get tossed...and the chicken is diced and thrown into the stewpot.

That's probably closer to a chicken broth than a true stock.  However, using the same "water" that you used to poach the chicken in does contribute to the final product, and saves a pot "transfer" too.

If you ever find yourself in the mood to make a chicken stock, buy about 2 pounds of chicken wings and/or other bony parts - you draw more flavor out of bones, fat and collagen than muscle (meat).

In a stock pot, saute up your standard mirepoix (carrots, onion and celery) in a little bit of olive oil, then add a whole head of garlic (sliced in half), some herbs (preferably in a bouquet garni), salt and pepper, the chicken wings, and four quarts of cold water.  Bring it to a boil, then lower to a simmer, and simmer for about two hours.  -Skimming off the "stuff" that rises to the top.  Once it's done, just pour it through a fine-mesh sieve and/or a couple layers of cheesecloth and/or a chinois, discarding the bones and vegetables.  -And you have Stock!

*If you'd like a "brown" chicken stock, roast the chicken wings in the oven until nicely browned, then deglaze the pan, etc., etc., etc.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 09:45:20 AM
That's probably closer to a chicken broth than a true stock.  However, using the same "water" that you used to poach the chicken in does contribute to the final product, and saves a pot "transfer" too.

If you ever find yourself in the mood to make a chicken stock, buy about 2 pounds of chicken wings and/or other bony parts - you draw more flavor out of bones, fat and collagen than muscle (meat).

In a stock pot, saute up your standard mirepoix (carrots, onion and celery) in a little bit of olive oil, then add a whole head of garlic (sliced in half), some herbs (preferably in a bouquet garni), salt and pepper, the chicken wings, and four quarts of cold water.  Bring it to a boil, then lower to a simmer, and simmer for about two hours.  -Skimming off the "stuff" that rises to the top.  Once it's done, just pour it through a fine-mesh sieve and/or a couple layers of cheesecloth and/or a chinois, discarding the bones and vegetables.  -And you have Stock!

*If you'd like a "brown" chicken stock, roast the chicken wings in the oven until nicely browned, then deglaze the pan, etc., etc., etc.

I was arriving at this conclusion and greatly appreciate the detailed process.  Thanks much!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 09:46:19 AM
And as for poaching chicken...

There's that classic(?) Chinese method where you place a whole chicken in a pot (maybe add a whole onion, roughly chopped), cover it with cold water, bring the water to boil, then turn the heat OFF, and let the pot sit, tightly covered for about 45 minutes.  Voila! Perfectly poached chicken!

*And if you taste the water that the chicken has poached at the end of the process, you will notice that it has hardly any "chicken taste".  -Which is a good thing, since that means all the chicken flavor stayed in the chicken and was not cooked out of it and into the water.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 09:47:49 AM
Roast Bones.

Yes, I am fine.....but the weather sure is weird around here.  Today, though, sunshine and lollipops.

Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 09:49:05 AM
Wow!  I remember Salvo Laundry Detergent.  It was a big solid pill that you dropped in your washing machine.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 09:49:12 AM
...And then if you slowly(!) simmer your stock until it's reduced by half... Talk about a great flavor booster!  -Just pour it into ice cube trays, freeze...  Then put one or two cubes (or more) in the pot when you need want a little extra flavor in a soup, stew, chili, rice, vegetables, etc.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 09:49:51 AM
Thanks to everyone for the Lansbury and Loudon clips.  Wow!  And to DRs td and GEORGE for the downloading instructions and links.

Haven't tried it yet....but we shall see what we shall see.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 09:50:44 AM
My first question for ASK BK day:

What is the strangest question you were ever asked at a television audition?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 09:50:44 AM
Roast Bones.

Yes, I am fine.....but the weather sure is weird around here.  Today, though, sunshine and lollipops.



Neck bones roasting on an open fire....

Onions flavoring your toes....

Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 09:51:09 AM
Neck bones roasting on an open fire....

Onions flavoring your toes....



Now I am not hungry anymore.  8)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 09:51:45 AM
Thanks to everyone for the Lansbury and Loudon clips.  Wow!  And to DRs td and GEORGE for the downloading instructions and links.

Haven't tried it yet....but we shall see what we shall see.

On my computer, each time I view a clip, I see a "download this video" tab in the upper right-hand corner of the video.  Works every time.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 09:56:09 AM
This next question may seem silly, but.....

...where do you get the bones?  Do you ask for them at the butcher's counter at a local grocery?
Yep.  The butchers at good grocery store with a good meat department will be glad to sell you the bones.  At our store, they'll even cut them to the right size (about one and a half to two inches long for marrow bones) - any longer, and the bones are too long for the water to effectively get the flavor out.

BTW, Alton Brown has a collection of Good Eats episodes out on DVD, titled "Souped Up".  It includes his episodes on using a pressure cooker to make beef broth (which is not stock, broth is much thinner and only uses the meat to get it's flavor, not the bones); making chicken stock; and making vegetable soups.  Unfortunately, Food Network isn't selling the disc solo.  Sorry.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 09:56:30 AM
Is it time to move onto demi-glace?  ;)



*Although, you can find Demi-Glace Gold on some supermarket shelves.  It's available in Chicken, Beef, Veal, Fish, Turkey, Veggie and Mushroom varieties.  It's not cheap, but it's also not exactly expensive either, but it's well worth the investment - especially since demi-glace does indeed take hours of time to make from scratch.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61mMisdva-L._AA280_.jpg)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 09:58:34 AM
The mailman has come and gone.

The shipment from Jessica's Biscuit still hasn't arrived.

Drat.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 09:58:47 AM
PAGE FIVE STOCK BONES DANCE!!!!

(http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/913/50505432.JPG)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ginny on January 09, 2008, 09:59:02 AM
While I never was, and never will be, a gourmet cook on the level of DRs Jose and SWW, one of my regrets about working full time with a long commute is that I don't have time to cook like I used to.  Wonder if I'll remember how, once I retire?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 09:59:33 AM
Is it time to move onto demi-glace?  ;)
It's certainly time to move onto page five!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 10:01:54 AM
But Ginny, I don't consider myself to be a "gourmet" cook at all.  I'm a home cook who prefers to work as much as I can from scratch.

I just happen to be using my day off to make some stock.  

I'll probably also get some laundry done, but not using the same pot.   ::)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 10:07:50 AM
Oh, Jose, I don't think you're right about marrow and gelatin being the same stuff.  The marrow in bones is where blood cells are manufactured.  Gelatin comes from the colligen, which is the soft stuff hiding between all the the calcium in the bones, and can also be found in muscle tissue.  There's colligen in the marrow, but lots of other stuff there, too.  (When making a pot roast, the temperature should be low in order to release the colligen in the meat - high temps makes the stuff sieze up and toughen, not desirable.)

Pigs knuckles and feet are loaded with colligen, and is where we used to get the gelatin used in desserts like mouses and Jell-O.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 10:08:43 AM
My first question for ASK BK day:

What is the strangest question you were ever asked at a television audition?

Ah, a customer!

I don't know that I was ever asked a strange question at a TV audition.  At a movie audition I was asked if I had a problem doing nudity and showing my rear end - I said I did.  They offered me the part anyway, and just assumed I'd do it and do the nudity.  When they wouldn't back off, I passed.  
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 10:09:19 AM
I tried to make stock from scratch - I used three one dollar bills, but I didn't think the resulting broth was on the money.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 10:09:54 AM
I have to revise that last thing I wrote last night - I decided on a change of locale.
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 10:09:55 AM
I'm a regular font of information today, aren't I!!!

(Currently sans serif, of course.   ;))
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 10:10:58 AM
Oh, Jose, I don't think you're right about marrow and gelatin being the same stuff.  The marrow in bones is where blood cells are manufactured.  Gelatin comes from the colligen, which is the soft stuff hiding between all the the calcium in the bones, and can also be found in muscle tissue.  There's colligen in the marrow, but lots of other stuff there, too.  (When making a pot roast, the temperature should be low in order to release the colligen in the meat - high temps makes the stuff sieze up and toughen, not desirable.)

Pigs knuckles and feet are loaded with colligen, and is where we used to get the gelatin used in desserts like mouses and Jell-O.

Well, they both contribute to that "unctious" mouthfeel.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 10:11:49 AM
BK - You wouldn't back off because your back was off, or just on principle?
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 10:12:28 AM
Time for my first skimming.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 10:12:44 AM
Collagen and marrow, that is.

Ohh... And speaking of marrow... I haven't made Osso Bucco in a while... :)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 10:13:25 AM
I'm a regular font of information today, aren't I!!!

(Currently sans serif, of course.   ;))

I get your point (size).

;)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 10:14:22 AM
I mean, just what is your type anyway?
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 10:18:40 AM
This is turning into one truly blackletter day!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 10:20:50 AM
OK... That's enough of the typography puns, bad jokes, etc.  That's what comes from spending all that time in high school rubbing Letraset letters onto ad copy for the theatre programs.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 10:21:57 AM
On my computer, each time I view a clip, I see a "download this video" tab in the upper right-hand corner of the video.  Works every time.

Me too.  Never noticed that tab before!  Ain't technology grand?  

Eyesight is, too.  ;D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 10:23:44 AM
Ah, a customer!

I don't know that I was ever asked a strange question at a TV audition.  At a movie audition I was asked if I had a problem doing nudity and showing my rear end - I said I did.  They offered me the part anyway, and just assumed I'd do it and do the nudity.  When they wouldn't back off, I passed.  

So whose backside did we see instead of yours?  8)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 10:25:33 AM
Just saw a promo for an "unforgettable" and "must see" and "been waiting for" episode of a series that just started in November.

How many episodes (or seasons) does it take for any of the other DR's before you are really invested in the characters....enough for you to really care about what happens to the people on the series....

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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 10:26:07 AM
While I never was, and never will be, a gourmet cook on the level of DRs Jose and SWW, one of my regrets about working full time with a long commute is that I don't have time to cook like I used to.  Wonder if I'll remember how, once I retire?


Dem bones, dem bones, gonna roast again...
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 10:26:16 AM
I can't find any photos of Salvo the Detergent in a pill.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 10:28:18 AM
Just saw a promo for an "unforgettable" and "must see" and "been waiting for" episode of a series that just started in November.

How many episodes (or seasons) does it take for any of the other DR's before you are really invested in the characters....enough for you to really care about what happens to the people on the series....



If they don't get me in the first episode I watch, they generally never get me (one exception -- I've recently been watching "Numbers"...either Rob Morrow has settled into his character in a less annoying way, or the focus on the other characters has balanced nicely with his making him tolerable to me).

But if a show hooks me from the git-go, every show after that is a "must see"....so any time they trumpet an episode, I know it's gonna be terrific (hopefully).
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 10:30:06 AM
Oh Lordy!

I found a commercial for Salvo!  The Dirt Bomb!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l213ryJbuHo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l213ryJbuHo&feature=related) ;D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 10:32:17 AM
DR RLP - this particular promo was for GOSSIP GIRL....which I have never seen and will probably NEVER see.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 10:33:08 AM
Glad DRJANE and DHKEITH made it through the pass.

And DR PENNYO is in sunny Florida!!!
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Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 10:43:50 AM
I have nothing to say about bones.

But I am interested in reading the discussion.

:)
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 10:46:12 AM
Der Brucer is now watching some movie called Driving Lessons, a coming of age story involving Rupert Gint and Julie Waters.

If Rupert and Julie start snogging, I'm going to insist der B change channels.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 10:47:20 AM
But Ginny, I don't consider myself to be a "gourmet" cook at all.  I'm a home cook who prefers to work as much as I can from scratch.

I just happen to be using my day off to make some stock.  

I'll probably also get some laundry done, but not using the same pot.   ::)

Who threw the overalls in Mrs Murphy's chowder?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 10:57:27 AM
Nobody spoke, so he shouted all the louder.

It's an Irish trick, that's true.
I can lick the Mick that threw...

The overalls in Mrs. Murphy's chowder.

They dragged the pants from out the pot
And laid them on the floor.
Each man swore upon his life
He'd ne'er seen them before.

They were plastered up with mortar
And were worn out at the Knee.
They'd had their many
Ups and downs.
As we could plainly see...........


I love Julie Andrews' version of this song!!!
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 11:13:26 AM
Nobody spoke, so he shouted all the louder.

It's an Irish trick, that's true.
I can lick the Mick that threw...

The overalls in Mrs. Murphy's chowder.

They dragged the pants from out the pot
And laid them on the floor.
Each man swore upon his life
He'd ne'er seen them before.

They were plastered up with mortar
And were worn out at the Knee.
They'd had their many
Ups and downs.
As we could plainly see...........


I love Julie Andrews' version of this song!!!

Et moi aussi!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 11:14:46 AM
That was SOME party....let me tell you!

Hold on there, boys!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 11:15:57 AM
(http://roicopy.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/windowslivewriterthemarketingoftroopwithdrawlthecoldhardf-c905koolaid2.jpg)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 11:20:11 AM
BK - You wouldn't back off because your back was off, or just on principle?

I don't think it was principle, just the fact that I didn't really feel like showing my rear end on film
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jeanne on January 09, 2008, 11:20:49 AM
So whose backside did we see instead of yours?  8)

I was wondering the same thing, but you said it ever so much better.  ;)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 11:23:06 AM
I didn't really feel like showing my rear end on film

Isn't this the part where DR Michael S. posts something from the archives?  ;)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 11:24:24 AM
Post[erior] Production?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 11:24:59 AM
Working on the back lots?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 11:27:21 AM
(http://roicopy.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/windowslivewriterthemarketingoftroopwithdrawlthecoldhardf-c905koolaid2.jpg)
No runs, no hits, no errors.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jeanne on January 09, 2008, 11:28:24 AM

How many episodes (or seasons) does it take for any of the other DR's before you are really invested in the characters....enough for you to really care about what happens to the people on the series....

Ah. An interesting question. I SHOULD care in the first episode. I SHOULD  be drawn into the story in the first episode. I do usually give a series a second chance, though. It took me a couple episodes to warm up to SLINGS & ARROWS, but once I did I really took to it. That's an exception, though--it's a quirky show and it took me a while to "get" its humor.  I frequently find that the first episode is the best and it goes downhill from there.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: td on January 09, 2008, 11:32:28 AM
HELLO, JANE! WELCOME BACK!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jane on January 09, 2008, 11:33:33 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY[/color] to sometimes poster, and friend of TD, Evil Twin!

HAVE A LOVELY DAY!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 11:34:51 AM
DR RLP - this particular promo was for GOSSIP GIRL....which I have never seen and will probably NEVER see.

Well that goes without saying....there are some shows you just KNOW aren't being made for the likes of you! And ME!  :D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jane on January 09, 2008, 11:37:18 AM
From Jose:

I’ll have a slice of
artichoke pie (http://www.timeout.com/newyork/articles/features/25254/new-yorks-tastiest-ten) and a Levain’s cookie.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jane on January 09, 2008, 11:41:42 AM
Der Brucer is now watching some movie called Driving Lessons, a coming of age story involving Rupert Gint and Julie Waters.

If Rupert and Julie start snogging, I'm going to insist der B change channels.

 ;D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 11:42:53 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DR Evil Twin!  :)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jane on January 09, 2008, 11:43:16 AM
Hi, FJL-sorry I didn’t say that last night.  

Skip’s song is very pretty in Portuguese. :)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 11:43:25 AM
And just where is Sean Young [DR SY] lately?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jane on January 09, 2008, 11:45:41 AM
Thank you DR’s Laura, Singdaw, George, Jose, Jeanne, JRand, and TD.

TD, Craig mentioned the weather was lovely in your neck of the woods, nicer than in L.A. or S.F.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ben on January 09, 2008, 11:45:59 AM
I don't know how many remember 30something. I loved the show. I think it was either a love/hate thing because I have friends who cringe at the thought of watching it. I didn't see the first few episodes but the first one I did see had me right away. I loved it and watched every episode until it was over. I did see the very first episode sometime after I had become a fan (in reruns)and weekly watcher and thought, if I had seen this as the very first episode I don't know if I would have continued watching or become so attached to the show, so I'm glad I didn't see it from the beginning because I might have dropped the show and missed (IMHO) something special.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jane on January 09, 2008, 11:53:47 AM
We watched part of the first episode, and that was it.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 11:54:33 AM
Well that goes without saying....there are some shows you just KNOW aren't being made for the likes of you! And ME!  :D

So sad to NOT be the target audience.

DR BEN - I enjoyed thirtysomething very much.  
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ginny on January 09, 2008, 11:57:29 AM
Another thirtysomething fan, here!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Tomovoz on January 09, 2008, 12:01:16 PM
RIVER OF NO RETURN
A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT
AARON SLICK FROM PUMPKIN CREEK

(From TCB yesterday)

I guess your favourite mainstream movies include:
Death On the Nile
Mississippi Gambler
Congo
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: td on January 09, 2008, 12:07:35 PM
Another 30something fan here.
I had a bit of a crush on Ken Olin, too.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 12:13:17 PM
I've done about three pages so far - two to four more to go.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 12:13:37 PM
I don't remember who ended up doing the part in that film.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: MBarnum on January 09, 2008, 12:15:32 PM
I just discovered that there is a Bollywood remake of THE SOUND OF MUSIC.


It is from 1972 and titled PARICHAY.

(http://www.bollyfm.net/bollyfm/movieimages/609_bi_parichay.jpg)



Just in case anyone ever wondered.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 12:16:20 PM
Another 30something fan here.
I had a bit of a crush on Ken Olin, too.

Me too, me too!  :)

(http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/35/65/59/18449557.jpg)

[He doesn't look exactly like this now...]
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 12:19:04 PM
I must see PARICHAY.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 12:20:36 PM
I was listening to the OBC of 110 in the Shade yesterday and marvelling at Inga Swenson's singing voice.

She has this amazing quality [Lynne Wintersteller has it, too] where although she's singing in a legit soprano "head" voice, she makes it laser-focused with a very "belty" quality to it.

Love that!   :)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: MBarnum on January 09, 2008, 12:21:01 PM
I must see PARICHAY.

You can start here JRand! One of the musical numbers...Julie Andrew's never drove this cool of a car!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkuIMm9rdow&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkuIMm9rdow&feature=related)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: MBarnum on January 09, 2008, 12:21:42 PM
I loved Inga Swenson on SOAP...didn't even know she could sing. The things you learn.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Tomovoz on January 09, 2008, 12:27:54 PM
I'm catching up.
Did I just read that DR Joe was giving advice on keeping to the straight and narrow?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Tomovoz on January 09, 2008, 12:29:10 PM
Is Osso Bucco one of the stars of "the Little mermaid".
Am I reading too fast?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 12:29:57 PM
Back to writing.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Tomovoz on January 09, 2008, 12:30:24 PM
We are expecting a 40+ degree (C) here today.  

I must as well be in Phoenix.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 12:35:28 PM
"The Little Mermaid"

Speaking of that show, and of rear sides [see previous posts], it has been declared over at ATC that "Sean Palmer [Prince Eric] has a particularly well-shaped butt."

So there you have it.    8)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Tomovoz on January 09, 2008, 12:37:05 PM
Somehow "bubbles" seem appropriate for the show.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 12:39:20 PM
Is that the crown prince of Greece?

Oh no, it's DR SINGDAW....common mistake.

DR MBARNUM.....now I want to see it more than ever.  Certainly had Maria von Trapp and the children had sung DO RE MI while driving around pre war Saltzberg in a 1958 Chevrolet....well....it would have MADE the movie!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 12:43:32 PM
I'm the crown prince of grease.

And I don't mean the musical!

:)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 12:45:46 PM
I'm the crown prince of grease.

And I don't mean the musical!

:)

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!  Never mind.  ;D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 12:58:15 PM
And just where is Sean Young [DR SY] lately?

Probably making calls of a similar nature around the neighborhood.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 01:17:14 PM
Turned into a beautiful day, and if it's going to rain, it'll be much later tonight. It's glorious outside right now.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 01:20:28 PM
Me too, me too!  :)

(http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/35/65/59/18449557.jpg)

[He doesn't look exactly like this now...]

Me, too! Me, three!

You're right; he looks nothing like this now, and it's a grim reminder that age catches up to even the blessed.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 01:23:09 PM
I forgot to mention this yesterday, but I'm sure some of you saw the announcement that ABC is going to do another season of THE MOLE this summer. This was my ALL-TIME favorite reality show the first year it was on. So much did I love this show that I applied to be on its second season. (It would have filmed during my first year of retirement, so I figured I was safe applying.)

Funny thing was that one of the guys selected to be on that second season was a man only a year or two older who was a retired English teacher! It looked like they had at least two of those to pick from and chose someone the other one. Ah, well. I'll be looking forward to this contest this summer.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 01:24:25 PM
I began my afternoon with two episodes from the old POIROT series. The first was "The King of Clubs," and it was great fun revisiting it.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 01:26:15 PM
The second one was "The Great Theft" or something like that. I forgotten the exact title. I'm sure I had seen it before, too, but I could not for the life of me remember how it ended.

Both of these two DVD episodes were from old videotape transfers, and they looked washed out and soft, so the viewing experience wasn't pristine, but the entertainment value of the shows is what really counts, I guess.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 01:30:43 PM
Next, I watched DRAGONLANCE. As expected, the Dungeons and Dragons stuff pretty much bored me silly, and the animation was a mixture of stiff 2-D animation and some 3-D CGI dragons which were kind of impressive. Kiefer Sutherland and Lucy Lawless were the two top-billed voice stars, but Kiefer's role was definitely less important that the role played by Michael Rosenbaum who was sort of the hero/eader of the band of warriors trying to save Elves and others from the attacking dragons and the evil enchantress, her male knight, and the dragons under her command.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 01:36:45 PM
I did watch the two minor bonus features: some line art tests from various places in the movie and some initial character designs for the major character.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 01:37:42 PM
And finishing this up this afternoon means tonight I can watch a Blu-ray disc. I was thinking about BLADE RUNNER originally, but now I'm leaning toward 2001. I've read such wonderful things about both of their HD transfers.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ginny on January 09, 2008, 01:45:34 PM
On the conference planning front, I've worked the phones all day and have received an important NO (better than not knowing at all) and several very significant YES's!  I just might make that deadline after all.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Tomovoz on January 09, 2008, 01:51:10 PM
American Football... FINALLY makes sense..........

A guy took his blond girlfriend to her first football game. They had great seats right behind their team's bench. After the game, he asked her how she liked the experience.
 
"Oh, I really liked it," she replied, "especially the tight pants and all the big muscles, but I just couldn't understand why they were killing each other over 25 cents."

Dumbfounded, her date asked, "What do you mean?"

She said "Well, they flipped a coin, one team got it and then for the rest of the game, all they kept screaming was: 'Get the quarter back! Get the quarter back!'

I'm like...Helloooooo? It's only 25 cents!!!!

(Well DR Vixmom does not get to post much these days)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 02:12:26 PM
Have written five pages and am on to a new chapter - maybe I'll do a couple more just to get into the new chapter a bit.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 02:13:10 PM
Did a couple of errands and had a little pizza for the meal o' the day.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: George on January 09, 2008, 02:23:56 PM
On my computer, each time I view a clip, I see a "download this video" tab in the upper right-hand corner of the video.  Works every time.

What's your operating system or browser??  I've never seen anything like that.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 02:27:29 PM
Good Afternoon!

An hour and 15 minutes at the gym, followed by an hour of playing and practicing some Bach and Brahms.  Now that's a good workout!

:)

*And I have to say, I was sort of surprised that even though I've been away from the gym for about a month, the resistance part of my workout was rather "easy".  -And I didn't even have to reduce the amount of weight I lifted a few weeks ago.  -Which also sort of confirmed my suspicions that I had been working out a bit too much before.  Rest is a good thing.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 02:28:22 PM
What's your operating system or browser??  I've never seen anything like that.

Are you a registered viewer/user of YouTube?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 02:29:05 PM
Another thirtysomething fan, here!

I could handle everything about the show except the character Elliot.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 02:31:09 PM
Ooh! Ooh!

I went and started


[size=8] PAGE 8 [/size][/color][/glow]
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 02:31:29 PM
OH!... And I had a nice "surprise" yesterday too... I stepped on my scale for the first time since before Christmas.  I was totally expecting to have put on a few holiday pounds, but, lo and behold, I actually lost two!  Not a bad way to start the New Year.  :)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 02:33:39 PM
...And as for the Bach and the Brahms...  My fingers actually "remembered" more of the Bach than I thought they would.  The Brahms didn't come back as easy, but after playing through a few of the Intermezzi...  I actually started to cry a little bit.  That's some beautiful music.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 02:35:15 PM
I must see PARICHAY.

Yes, you MUST.  You really MUST!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 02:35:26 PM
From Jose:

I’ll have a slice of
artichoke pie (http://www.timeout.com/newyork/articles/features/25254/new-yorks-tastiest-ten) and a Levain’s cookie.


Hmm... Those Di Fara pizzas are truly wonderful.  I just wish they were a bit closer to where I live, and didn't require two subway transfers.  However, maybe that's a good thing.

*However, the original location of Patsy's in East Harlem is just two subway stops and a five block walk away.  ;)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 02:35:58 PM
I just discovered that there is a Bollywood remake of THE SOUND OF MUSIC.


It is from 1972 and titled PARICHAY.

(http://www.bollyfm.net/bollyfm/movieimages/609_bi_parichay.jpg)



Just in case anyone ever wondered.

Was this with the Rodgers and Hammerstein score?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 02:36:56 PM
 I was totally expecting to have put on a few holiday pounds, but, lo and behold, I actually lost two!  Not a bad way to start the New Year.  :)


Oh, don't think of them as "lost."  Think of them as temporarily "misplaced."

 ;D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 02:39:11 PM
A very funny joke, DR Tom. Thanks for sharing it.  ;D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 02:40:12 PM
Now, I must write a bit and then head back down to make the BIG decision about what to watch tonight on Blu-ray.

WBBL.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 02:41:55 PM
I don't know how many remember 30something. I loved the show. I think it was either a love/hate thing because I have friends who cringe at the thought of watching it. I didn't see the first few episodes but the first one I did see had me right away. I loved it and watched every episode until it was over. I did see the very first episode sometime after I had become a fan (in reruns)and weekly watcher and thought, if I had seen this as the very first episode I don't know if I would have continued watching or become so attached to the show, so I'm glad I didn't see it from the beginning because I might have dropped the show and missed (IMHO) something special.

Count me in as a another "thirtysomething" fan.  -I even bought and still have that book of scripts they released.

When I was in college, the director I worked with and his wife - who was the costume designer - were also big "thirtysomething" fans.  So much so, that our Wednesday rehearsals (or whichever night it was on), started earlier, and ended at 9:30 so that we could all get home to watch that night's episode.

And, yes, Ken Olin in a bathrobe standing at the top of the stairs looking down at Hope.... Hmm...

*I also had a crush on David Marshall Grant.  -And remember all the controversy over having him and Peter Frechette kiss?  -However, I did think it was still quite "adult" to show them in bed together post-encounter.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 02:44:31 PM
Oh, don't think of them as "lost."  Think of them as temporarily "misplaced."

 ;D

...And I'm guessing what "happened" in South Carolina, didn't stay in South Carolina.

;D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 02:45:58 PM
Speaking of that show, and of rear sides [see previous posts], it has been declared over at ATC that "Sean Palmer [Prince Eric] has a particularly well-shaped butt."

So there you have it.    8)

Yes, he does have a nice butt.  And/or at least a very good costume fitter.  ;)  Alas, I didn't find the rest of his performance as "distracting".
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 02:47:11 PM
Next, I watched DRAGONLANCE. As expected, the Dungeons and Dragons stuff pretty much bored me silly, and the animation was a mixture of stiff 2-D animation and some 3-D CGI dragons which were kind of impressive. Kiefer Sutherland and Lucy Lawless were the two top-billed voice stars, but Kiefer's role was definitely less important that the role played by Michael Rosenbaum who was sort of the hero/eader of the band of warriors trying to save Elves and others from the attacking dragons and the evil enchantress, her male knight, and the dragons under her command.

DR MattH - Was this a Direct-To-DVD release?  Or was it presented on one of the cable stations first?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 02:50:49 PM
I don't think I ever watched a single episode of Thirtysomething.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 03:02:58 PM
What's your operating system or browser??  I've never seen anything like that.

Windows Vista and Internet Explorer (7?).

It's m-a-g-i-c.  I download all the youtube stuff I want onto travel drives and it plays back beautifully.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 03:03:43 PM
...And I'm guessing what "happened" in South Carolina, didn't stay in South Carolina.

;D

I'm not sayin'......
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 03:04:14 PM
I don't think I ever watched a single episode of Thirtysomething.

How about more than a single episode?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 03:07:21 PM
My moo juice stock is straining.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: MBarnum on January 09, 2008, 03:09:02 PM
I forgot to mention this yesterday, but I'm sure some of you saw the announcement that ABC is going to do another season of THE MOLE this summer. This was my ALL-TIME favorite reality show the first year it was on. So much did I love this show that I applied to be on its second season. (It would have filmed during my first year of retirement, so I figured I was safe applying.)

Funny thing was that one of the guys selected to be on that second season was a man only a year or two older who was a retired English teacher! It looked like they had at least two of those to pick from and chose someone the other one. Ah, well. I'll be looking forward to this contest this summer.

Oh goody! I liked THE MOLE as well...until they started doing celebrity Mole, which was no fun at all
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: George on January 09, 2008, 03:14:54 PM
Are you a registered viewer/user of YouTube?

I am.  I see a button to upload a video into Youtube, but not one to download from Youtube.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 03:15:54 PM
Hmmmm...

I'm not sure.

Of course, I haven't added any salt.  (One of the canned stuff's additives which, by not adding yet, gives me more control over my product.)  And there's an amount of oil in the stock still, well, grease is the more apt term, which will take a while to float to the top to be removed.

I guess I should take the stock down to the basement to chill in the chill chest.

(That's a fancy, high-falutin' word for "refrigerator," if you haven't guessed.)

And, if I decide the stock isn't strong enough, I can reduce it later.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 03:17:26 PM
Of course, after all this business with the stock, I've still to decide what we'll be having for dinner!   :o
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: td on January 09, 2008, 03:18:15 PM
It must be part of Vista, 'cos with Firefox or IE, I'm not seeing any DOWNLOAD button!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: George on January 09, 2008, 03:19:43 PM
Windows Vista and Internet Explorer (7?).

It's m-a-g-i-c.  I download all the youtube stuff I want onto travel drives and it plays back beautifully.

It's probably a Vista option, then.  I have Windows 2000 both at work and at home.  I don't know when I'll upgrade my home computer, but I'm sure we will never go to Vista at work...they need the security and all that, you know.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: George on January 09, 2008, 03:20:36 PM
I don't think I ever watched a single episode of Thirtysomething.

I didn't either.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: td on January 09, 2008, 03:21:35 PM
Another touch of FOLLIES:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXz03GLVdVg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXz03GLVdVg&feature=related)
 . . .still no DOWNLOAD button. . .
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: George on January 09, 2008, 03:40:19 PM
Thanks to everyone for the Lansbury and Loudon clips.  Wow!  And to DRs td and GEORGE for the downloading instructions and links.

Haven't tried it yet....but we shall see what we shall see.

You're welcome.  However, I think TD's website/downloader http://youtubedownload.altervista.org/ is better than http://keepvid.com because it can handle many more websites than keepvid can.

;)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 04:02:00 PM
DR SWW - Salt will make all the difference with your stock.  Just ladle out a small bowl, sprinkle lightly with salt, stir and taste... Should make a world of difference.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 04:03:52 PM
And salt was actually the missing "note" in the batch of collards I just cooked up.  I was afraid the smoked turkey necks that I used in my base would be salty, but, apparently they weren't.  So, after a nice dash of kosher salt over the  braised greens... Yum!  :)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: FJL on January 09, 2008, 04:10:08 PM
And one for collards
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: DearReaderLaura on January 09, 2008, 04:19:25 PM
This morning I went for a walk, and this is what I saw:

Sandhill cranes:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w247/SaltonSeaTrip/cranes.jpg)

Snow geese:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w247/SaltonSeaTrip/snowgeese-1.jpg)

Burrowing owl:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w247/SaltonSeaTrip/owl.jpg)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 04:22:04 PM
DR DearReaderLaura - Have you ever submitted your photos to Parade or to a local newspaper?  I swear, it's almost like the animals pose for you.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 09, 2008, 04:27:44 PM
And salt was actually the missing "note" in the batch of collards I just cooked up.  I was afraid the smoked turkey necks that I used in my base would be salty, but, apparently they weren't.  So, after a nice dash of kosher salt over the  braised greens... Yum!  :)


There is a ham seasoning on the market from Goya that is just fantastic cooked with collards.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 04:29:08 PM
OY!

I don't want is funnier/sadder:

-Dr. Phil trying to help Britney Spears.
-A Hollywood psychic offering advice to Britney Spears.
or
-Donald Trump "warning" Britney Spears that she's going down the same path that Anna Nicole Smith did.

OY! and VEY!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 04:45:49 PM
Lovely photos, DR LAURA!!!

And now......a DVD announcement.

January 22, 2008, S'More Entertainment will give us:

MAKE ROOM FOR DADDY/THE DANNY THOMAS SHOW Season Six

Hopefully it won't be the syndicated, chopped up, edited versions that Questar released as Season Five a couple of years ago.

Season Six of course featured Miss Annette Funicello in her first work away from the Disney Studio as a friend of Terry Williams, exchange student Gina Manelli.  Annette sings on several episodes and dances as well....
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 09, 2008, 04:59:14 PM
New PWOJECT WUNWAY tonight.

I watched a couple of the presentations on the pretaped and no audience People's Choice Awards.  And it was one of the worst things I have ever seen.  Whew!
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 09, 2008, 04:59:49 PM
I've got to get some shopping done.  Time to get der Brucer up from his nap.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: td on January 09, 2008, 05:02:53 PM
DR Laura - your owl is absolutely incredible!  You really ought to start submitting your photos to newspapers and such.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 05:04:21 PM
I've done eight pages today, which sort of makes up for the two that I did yesterday.  I think I'm through for the day, unless I do some cleanup later.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: DearReaderLaura on January 09, 2008, 05:08:49 PM
Thank you for the kind comments on my photos. We had fun today.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: George on January 09, 2008, 05:09:11 PM
DR Laura - your owl is absolutely incredible!  You really ought to start submitting your photos to newspapers and such.

Definitely!  You do take some wonderful pictures!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: DearReaderLaura on January 09, 2008, 05:12:45 PM
Thanks. I do get lucky once in a while.
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Post by: singdaw on January 09, 2008, 05:22:35 PM
DearReaderLaura DR - thanks for sharing those incredible photos with us.

How lucky you are to have such images to view on your local walks.  And how lucky we are that you capture and share them with us!
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Post by: singingnymph on January 09, 2008, 05:35:05 PM
I'm watching Rock N Roll High School (for the 25th time). It's wonderfully ridiculous.
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Post by: singingnymph on January 09, 2008, 05:36:08 PM
My favorite scene is when Dee Dee's in the shower.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on January 09, 2008, 05:40:03 PM
DearReaderLaura DR - thanks for sharing those incredible photos with us.

How lucky you are to have such images to view on your local walks.  And how lucky we are that you capture and share them with us!

Well, not exactly local. The owl and the cranes are in  Cibola Wildlife Refuge (south of Blythe, CA), and the geese are in Sonny Bono Wildlife Refuge (near Brawley, CA).
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 05:42:28 PM
Are we STILL on page nine?
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Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 05:42:43 PM
Will we never get to page ten?
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Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 05:43:01 PM
I think I shall go sit on my couch like so much fish.
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Post by: singingnymph on January 09, 2008, 05:45:15 PM
I regret that I have only one life to give for rock and roll!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: George on January 09, 2008, 05:47:41 PM
A friend of mine sent me this link to an article about a real person named Sweeney Todd (http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/todd/index_1.html).
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Post by: singingnymph on January 09, 2008, 05:57:33 PM
Oh, crimelibrary.com is great! I used that when I was researching Victorian era killers for the haunted house I worked at.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: George on January 09, 2008, 06:02:36 PM
I have had the song "Bang (http://www.libretto.musicals.ru/text.php?textid=509&language=1)" by Stephen Sondheim going through my head all day!  It has the lines:

Bang
Foray at the elbow
Salvo at the knee
Bang
Fusillades at breast
And thigh


;)
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Post by: Jane on January 09, 2008, 06:14:39 PM
*However, the original location of Patsy's in East Harlem is just two subway stops and a five block walk away.  ;)

Is that anywhere near the Apollo Theater?  Bryan will be interviewing with a D.O. school near the theater.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jane on January 09, 2008, 06:27:44 PM
DRaura, lovely photos, as always.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Jane on January 09, 2008, 06:34:15 PM
Has anyone seen the wild polar bears playing with a couple of huskies (http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/play/audiogallery/soundseen.shtml)?  


Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 06:40:32 PM
Is that anywhere near the Apollo Theater?  Bryan will be interviewing with a D.O. school near the theater.

Well, the Apollo Theatre is as 235 125th Street, between Frederick Douglass and Adam Clayton Powell (7th Ave.) Blvds.  Patsy's is at 2287 1st Ave between 117th and 118th Streets.  So... About six long blocks west and seven blocks north.  A "nice" walk, or a $5.00-6.00 cab ride.  :)

-There's a D.O. school in that area?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Danise on January 09, 2008, 06:42:24 PM
Hi all!  Can't stay long but just wanted to drop by.  

The news of the day is that next week I'm going to start Weight Watchers.  I've really packed on the pounds here lately and it's time to do something about it.

I found a meeting place close to work that meets from 1-2.  I'll just work till 5 that day so I can go to the meeting.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 06:43:40 PM
...Although, if he walks south on Frederick Douglass Blvd. a couple of blocks, he can check out "Les Ambassades", a great Senegalese-French bistro and bakery.  :)
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Post by: Jane on January 09, 2008, 06:44:10 PM
Good news Danise, and GOOD DIETING VIBES!
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Post by: Danise on January 09, 2008, 06:48:12 PM
Thanks, DR Jane.  I really mean it this time. It's at least 30-40 pounds or bust!
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Post by: Danise on January 09, 2008, 06:50:45 PM
Lovely pictures, Dear Reader Laura!

I used my camera the other day when our bus stop shelter was smashed to bits with a brick.  I took pictures and sent them into Hartline.  I don't know if that will help or not.
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Post by: Danise on January 09, 2008, 06:51:02 PM
How is Sherlock doing?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Danise on January 09, 2008, 07:01:39 PM
American Football... FINALLY makes sense..........

A guy took his blond girlfriend to her first football game. They had great seats right behind their team's bench. After the game, he asked her how she liked the experience.
 
"Oh, I really liked it," she replied, "especially the tight pants and all the big muscles, but I just couldn't understand why they were killing each other over 25 cents."

Dumbfounded, her date asked, "What do you mean?"

She said "Well, they flipped a coin, one team got it and then for the rest of the game, all they kept screaming was: 'Get the quarter back! Get the quarter back!'

I'm like...Helloooooo? It's only 25 cents!!!!

(Well DR Vixmom does not get to post much these days)

I fear I am just as bad with football.

Someone mentioned that the Bucs lost the game this weekend because the turnovers killed them.  I said the only turnovers I knew about were Apple and Cherry.  I didn't know the team ate so many of them it made them lose a game.  ;D
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Post by: Danise on January 09, 2008, 07:02:34 PM
And with that, I have to go.  Have a good evening all!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 07:15:02 PM
Finished watching The Heart Is A Lonely Hunter.  Not sure what's next, watching-wise.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 07:22:42 PM
A friend of mine sent me this link to an article about a real person named Sweeney Todd (http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/todd/index_1.html).

There was no real Sweeney Todd; it's an urban legend.  We went through all this brouhaha in 1979.  He's an invention of the anonymous author of the penny-dreadful serialization "A String Of Pearls," which was dramatized by Thomas Preskett Prest.  Your friend should read this:

See below
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Cillaliz on January 09, 2008, 07:30:34 PM
Hello. I started the month with politics, a lot of work at the office and a bad cold.  Just starting to catch up with myself.  I'm looking forward to the weekend. I don't have any plans, so I should be able to do some work at the office and at home and maybe see a movie
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TCB on January 09, 2008, 07:30:44 PM
DR Julie, Ben and I are big fans of the series as well, but my memory is that several DRs thought very little of it.

They're now releasing all three seasons in one collection with additional material; it burns my butt to have to pay for another set of this series but I may have to.

elmore, IIRC , I was the only one who didn't care for the series.  It seemed like everyone else was a fan.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Cillaliz on January 09, 2008, 07:31:14 PM
I haven't read all the notes from the past several days. Did I miss anything?
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 09, 2008, 07:32:19 PM
Why didn't the last cover load in?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TCB on January 09, 2008, 07:35:08 PM
Watching "The View"....

-"The Brecht Girl" - ?!?!?!?

Was it The Brecht Girl, or The Breck Girl?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Cillaliz on January 09, 2008, 07:38:32 PM
OH! I just decided what I want to do this weekend.  See Juno and The Kite Runner. Both are playing in town at my favorite theater
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: td on January 09, 2008, 07:44:58 PM
Oh, Jane!  That polar bear and huskies was so great!  Thank you!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TCB on January 09, 2008, 07:59:42 PM
Another touch of FOLLIES:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXz03GLVdVg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXz03GLVdVg&feature=related)
 . . .still no DOWNLOAD button. . .


I'll stick to Dorothy Collins.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 08:03:10 PM
I think I'll take a leetle drive.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 08:05:47 PM
DR MattH - Was this a Direct-To-DVD release?  Or was it presented on one of the cable stations first?

It may be a direct-to-video release though it was submitted for an MPAA rating (PG-13) which direct to videos rarely are. The press information isn't really clear about that.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 08:08:17 PM
DR MBarnum, I agree with you about Celebrity Mole, not nearly as good as the one with "real" people. From every press release I've read, they intend to do it with regular contestants.

They are also looking for a new host. Obviously, Anderson Cooper isn't available, and they don't want Armad Rashad.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: FJL on January 09, 2008, 08:08:21 PM
I may go to sleep early tonight.  I'm getting very yawny.  Or maybe it was this week's dresses on Project Runway?

Or is it already too late to say I'm going to sleep early?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 08:12:11 PM
I began my evening with 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY on Blu-ray. Spectacular imagery even if the blacks of space weren't as inky black as I was expecting.

And I listened to the uncompressed PCM 5.1 track. Good lord, I thought the den windows were going to be shaken out of their frames during the stargate sequence!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 08:13:12 PM
Next, I watched the "making of" documentary on the disc, ported over from the 2001 edition of the DVD. For some reason, I had never watched this before, and it was great to see it.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 08:14:24 PM
Watched the last 15 minutes of LAW & ORDER: CRIMINAL INTENT. Of course, I had seen it on USA when it premiered, but this was the first time seeing it in HD. Certainly is FAR better in HD.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 08:15:15 PM
And then I ended the evening with tonight's LAW & ORDER episode.





































Had a gay subplot to it which caught me by surprise. Interesting case and kind of heartbreaking.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 08:17:35 PM
Tomorrow, I'll catch up with tonight's PROJECT RUNWAY and CSI: NY.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 08:19:37 PM
I also meant to mention that today in the mail, I got a review copy of the PBS series that several of you have been talking about: PIONEERS OF TELEVISION. It comes out on January 29th, but since I didn't have a chance to see the four episodes when they were broadcast, I will look forward to seeing this at some point before the 29th.

I have to start on the next two TV box sets due on the 22nd - THE ODD COUPLE (season 3) I'll start on tomorrow followed by HAWAII FIVE-O (season 3).
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on January 09, 2008, 08:34:27 PM
SAVE THE BONES FOR HENRY JONES 'CAUSE HE DON'T EAT NO MEAT
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 09, 2008, 08:42:54 PM
Well, I believe my lack of sleep last night has finally caught up with me, so...

Goodnight.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TPunk on January 09, 2008, 09:05:14 PM
Hi all!  Can't stay long but just wanted to drop by.  

The news of the day is that next week I'm going to start Weight Watchers.  I've really packed on the pounds here lately and it's time to do something about it.

I found a meeting place close to work that meets from 1-2.  I'll just work till 5 that day so I can go to the meeting.

Danise, good luck! I just started counting points 2 weeks ago. I did weight watchers, attending meetings and all that, a few years ago and did well with it. I enjoyed attending the meetings, and felt accomplished every time I weight in and had lost some weight. Every now and then when I feel like I'm getting out of my comfort zone, I'll count points to get myself back on track.

This summer I started taking a medication that has caused me to gain 15 pounds. I switched medications but the weight has been very slow to come off. I am tired of not being able to wear half the clothes in my closet.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TPunk on January 09, 2008, 09:07:55 PM
I may go to sleep early tonight.  I'm getting very yawny.  Or maybe it was this week's dresses on Project Runway?

Or is it already too late to say I'm going to sleep early?

All I can say about Project Runway is that I would have chosen a different winner.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 09:09:44 PM
I guess I need to think about getting some sleep, too.

Good night!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TPunk on January 09, 2008, 09:11:28 PM
I am exhausted. I spent the entire day hospitalizing one of my kids who seems to be spiraling out of control, getting progressively more aggressive and depressed. When we got to the admissions office, he was super excited to find out that there was a cafeteria where he would be allowed to pick out his own food. He was the most excited I've seen him in weeks. Go figure.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TPunk on January 09, 2008, 09:12:25 PM
Is anyone else excited for new episodes of Monk and Psych?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 09:12:29 PM
But before I go, Page Eleven Harry Potter Dance!!!


Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TPunk on January 09, 2008, 09:12:45 PM
Because I am excited.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: Matt H. on January 09, 2008, 09:12:54 PM
Now I'm REALLY going!

Good night!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TPunk on January 09, 2008, 09:13:50 PM
I would also be excited if we could get some heat in my apartment. Just because it has been unseasonably warm the last few days does not mean that we don't need heat.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TPunk on January 09, 2008, 09:14:49 PM
Did I mention that it's cold?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TPunk on January 09, 2008, 09:15:09 PM
Brrrr
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Post by: FJL on January 09, 2008, 09:16:17 PM
TPunk, can you put a spoiler alert on your post and please please say which dress you would have chosen?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: FJL on January 09, 2008, 09:17:34 PM
Dishing the Project Runway judges is a proven way to get warm
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Post by: FJL on January 09, 2008, 09:18:20 PM
Or even dissing the Project Runway judges, for that matter
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Post by: TPunk on January 09, 2008, 09:19:17 PM
Project Runway spoiler alert!!!



















I totally would have chosen Sweetpea's work. Her dress was gorgeous. Absolutely appropriate for prom and not over the top, but different enough to stand out.  Victoria's dress was pretty, but my roommate and I thought she wrecked it with the profusion of multi-colored jewels. I felt super bad for Christian, he's young and did not handle a difficult situation with much finesse. But I guess that's what happens when two narcissists get paired up.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TPunk on January 09, 2008, 09:20:17 PM
Dishing the Project Runway judges is a proven way to get warm

If only! I think it may be warmer outside than it is in either bedroom right now.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TPunk on January 09, 2008, 09:21:05 PM
And on that complaint, I'm off to bed. I will be forcing both cats to cuddle with me for warmth.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: TPunk on January 09, 2008, 09:21:40 PM
Good night all!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: FJL on January 09, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
TPunk - Skip totally agrees with you about who should have been the winner.  He was sending the equivalent of vibes to the TV set saying that person's name, but to no avail (since it was taped so long ago, and vibes don't seem to work on pre-recorded matter.)
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: MBarnum on January 09, 2008, 09:35:32 PM
TPunk must have radiator heat...or rather a lack of. I had radiator heat in my apartment and you were at the mercy of the thermostat in the basement.
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singingnymph on January 09, 2008, 10:57:25 PM
I hate the crawling crud.
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Post by: singingnymph on January 09, 2008, 11:02:42 PM
I think I'll clean my B.E. tomorrow. I really need to do laundry too.
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Post by: singingnymph on January 09, 2008, 11:03:19 PM
Ooh, tomorrow evening we get new music in choir! Huzzah!
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: singingnymph on January 09, 2008, 11:04:21 PM
Say, Mr. Bruce, do you ever karaoke? And if so, where?
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: George on January 09, 2008, 11:10:40 PM
There was no real Sweeney Todd; it's an urban legend.  We went through all this brouhaha in 1979.  He's an invention of the anonymous author of the penny-dreadful serialization "A String Of Pearls," which was dramatized by Thomas Preskett Prest.  Your friend should read this:

(http://www.haineshisway.com/community/attachments/25116914.JPG)


The author of that article (http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/todd/index_1.html) references this book:  Sweeney Todd: The Real Story of the Demon Barber of Fleet Street (http://www.amazon.com/Sweeney-Todd-story-Barber-Street/dp/0760705364/ref=ed_oe_h)[/b][/url], by Peter Haining and doesn't even mention that Sondheim and Wheeler's musical is based on Christopher Bond's play.  I tried to tell my friend that the research on the history of the story that I'd heard about over the last thirty years (I never did any research, myself) indicated that it wasn't a single, real person, but she said that that article she read said that it's true, so to her it's true! ::)

But I'll definitely tell her about The Wonderful and Surprising History of Sweeney Todd (http://www.amazon.com/Wonderful-Surprising-History-Sweeney-Todd/dp/0826497918/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199942309&sr=8-1).  

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Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 11:19:19 PM
I have never done Karaoke.  I've been to one karaoke bar, way back in around 1998.  
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Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 11:20:32 PM
I did some futzing with what I wrote earlier, actually just the last couple of pages of what I wrote earlier - I'm thinking eight pages is a bit much for me - I think it will be three to seven from now on.  
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Post by: bk on January 09, 2008, 11:20:47 PM
Will we never get to page twelve?
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Post by: George on January 10, 2008, 12:00:15 AM
I forgot to wish a Very Happy Birthday to DR Evil Twin!!

:D
Title: Re:THE OPENING SALVO
Post by: George on January 10, 2008, 12:02:05 AM
So, A Very Happy Birthday to DR Evil Twin!!

;)