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Title: THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 12:04:56 AM
Well, you've read the notes VERY carefully, you know where they're coming from, you know whassup, you are jiggy with it, so let's all post until the cows come home, shall we?
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2004, 12:19:23 AM
Well, I'm not jiggy, because the notes aren't up yet.  Or at least I can't get them yet.  Same difference, I haven't read them yet, and haven't the slightest idea what we're talking about!

In any case, there's an Alton Brown Good Eats rerun coming up in a few minutes on how to make chicken stock.

And there's lots and lots of housecleaning to do tomorrow, because our furniture and other fun stuff is arriving on Thursday!  Then we get the entire weekend to unload the truck and figure where the heck everything is supposed to go in this new house of ours!  Frabjous, right?

I think I'm gonna want to stock up on Ben Gay before I need it.
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Post by: Panni on February 04, 2004, 01:01:19 AM
Well, it's 1 AM and I just watched two movies about kids who are desperately poor, mistreated and homeless -- and now I'm in a FINE mood for bed.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 02:41:00 AM

what lovely posts and pictures from yesterday!  Whew!

And a great interview....frank and funny and fine!

Hopefully I will get through this difficult day.  I will be back later.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 04, 2004, 03:46:17 AM
DRs Ben, Ant, Kerry,

I just woke up to (yesterday's) After Dark cover. You could have fooled me - I was sure that was a "photo by Ken Duncan."

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Post by: Ben on February 04, 2004, 04:55:15 AM
Didn't get to post my 70s picture yesterday. We had a piece of furniture delivered and it came at lunch time and then after work I went to a benefit for Dancers Responding to AIDS. I will get the picture ready and up today, I hope, even though the moment has passed :-). I can't do it here since it's on the hard drive at home.

Kerry, thanks for posting the After Dark shot. It's a good piece of work.

Anthony from the 70s would be a mere child! Does that make me a cradle robber? I hope not.

MBarnum, in 1973 you were in 4th grade and I was 20!!! How could that be???

D-I-T Glad you liked Kerry's star treatment photo
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Post by: William E. Lurie on February 04, 2004, 06:11:36 AM
Can it be... after all this time I can't think of another question for Ask BK day.  (Bk sighs in relief)  I'm sure by next week I'll come up with something.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 04, 2004, 06:40:50 AM

“Lockdown” Update (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110322,00.html)

Florida Teen's Death Ruled Homicide
Tuesday, February 03, 2004
 
MIAMI — A 14-year-old boy was apparently stabbed to death in a school bathroom Tuesday, and another student was taken into custody.

Other children at the school were locked in their classrooms with their teachers as a precaution for most of the day before they were sent home in the afternoon. More than 150 worried parents gathered outside.
Der Brucer (and it’s still not clear if the perp was in the school at the time the body was discovered)

More web detecting finds the Answers in Miami Herald (http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/7868956.htm)

Boy killed at school; classmate charged

Jaime Rodrigo Gough, 14, is slain at Southwood Middle School in Palmetto Bay. Police later charge fellow eighth-grader Michael Hernandez with first-degree murder.
BY MATTHEW I. PINZUR, SOFIA SANTANA AND CHARLES RABIN
mpinzur@herald.com

A quiet, 14-year-old honors student was killed in a bathroom at his Palmetto Bay middle school Tuesday morning, his throat apparently cut by a classmate in a shocking attack that paralyzed hundreds of families and terrified parents across Miami-Dade County.

Jaime Rodrigo Gough was found bleeding to death in a second-floor restroom at Southwood Middle School around 8:30 a.m. by another student, who saw a pool of blood and a pair of legs sticking out from a stall. He ran to get help, but paramedics were unable to save Jaime.

Within hours, police focused on a fellow eighth-grader, who was identified as 14-year-old Michael Hernandez. He was charged late Tuesday night with first-degree murder. Such a serious charge indicates police believe the killing may have been planned.

After Jaime's body was found, administrators launched a lockdown, confining students to their first-period classrooms for the day while detectives investigated.
Before Hernandez was escorted from his class around lunchtime, investigators suspected Jaime's wounds were self-inflicted, said Pete Cuccaro, chief of the Miami-Dade Schools Police.

Only after the medical examiner ruled out that explanation did police realize a killer could be loose in the school.

''We didn't know right away who the potential suspect was,'' Cuccaro said. ``That's why we went into a code-red lockdown.''

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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 04, 2004, 06:53:29 AM
Flickering Flames in the war against Piracy:



Hollywood Walks Fine Line on Civil Liberties
Wednesday, February 04, 2004
By Paul Wagenseil

FOX News
 
Faced with increasing digital piracy, the entertainment industry has been frantically pushing legislation and filing lawsuits to stem the tide — and your civil rights may be suffering as a result.

In the past decade, owners of intellectual property have made a relentless push to conquer the gray areas of copyright law.

The Girl Scouts were sued for singing "Happy Birthday" without paying license fees. Disney got Congress to extend the standard term of copyright by 20 years. (Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain). Book publishers demanded that public libraries begin charging borrowers. A television executive said fast-forwarding through taped commercials was "stealing the programming."

As judges and politicians try to understand the confusing world of the Internet, the organizations that protect the interests of the entertainment industry are making a legal land grab.

The Recording Industry Association of America and the Motion Picture Association of America  have silenced individuals, demanded consumers' personal information, tried to outlaw T-shirts and even made police-style "street busts" — all in the name of protecting copyrights.

(Read the rest of the story (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110344,00.html))

der Brucer (who assures all DRs that if he's ever arrested for the T-Shirt he's wearing, it will contain something more provocative than computer code)
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Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2004, 07:14:14 AM
BK, I also watched, well tried to watch, Mystery Street. I stayed with it for about a half hour and then stopped the tape. Just couldn't get into it.

BK question of the day (for DRs too)..what are your favorite early 1930s pre-code films?

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Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2004, 07:16:45 AM
There is snow!

Am I the only one, who when I put down the window with today's topic gets a nice SHOCK :)
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Post by: Kerry on February 04, 2004, 07:18:15 AM
Thanks all for being courageous enough to post pics yesterday.  Those of you who didn't should do so today.
MBarnum:  I had a shirt very similar to that one.  And in 1968, I had a pair of fringed moccasin boots (just like the ones Peter Tork or Mickey Dolenz wore).

I don't know why---- but good vibes to JRAND.

Questions later.
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Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2004, 07:19:01 AM
Btw, for some reason Showcase (in  Canada) is showing 3 episodes of The Office (that won those Golden Globes a couple weeks ago). It's from 10pm-midnight. I think I will check it out.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2004, 07:45:46 AM
Really enjoyed the AFTER DARK cover this morning looking back over last night's remaining psots. You could EASILY have fooled me with the beautiful, accurate layout of that cover with the type fonts and lists just like AFTER DARK used to do it. How I miss that wonderfully entertaining magazine and its annual Ruby Award (named for Ruby Keeler).
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2004, 07:46:32 AM
For Ask BK Day - Do you have a single film noir that you prefer over others?

For me, it would be MURDER, MY SWEET.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2004, 07:48:09 AM


Wow, that interview with Olet is wonderful! What a neat gal! I sure wish her all the best and I love the  wonderful positive outlook on life that she has!
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Post by: bfried on February 04, 2004, 07:58:38 AM
My favorite pre-code film is "Blessed Event" (1932 w/Lee Tracy) followed closely by "Madam Satan" (1930 w/Kay Johnson, Reginald Denny and Lillian Roth - "Who wants to go to hell with Madam Satan?").
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Post by: Jay on February 04, 2004, 08:02:35 AM
Welcome, Dear Reader bfried!

That first post is the toughest.  It's smooth sailing (oh, a William Finn reference) from here!
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2004, 08:08:39 AM
Speaking of the MA AND PA KETTLE and ABBOTT AND COSTELLO collections being sold next week, they are CHEAP! The A&C is 8 movies for $25 (SRP), and the KETTLE set is going for $20 (SRP). Discounted they'll be a steal! How can Universal afford to sell these discs for so little?

Now I KNOW I want the Deanna Durbin series.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2004, 08:09:41 AM
My favorite pre-Code film is MERRILY WE GO TO HELL with Fredric March and Sylvia Sidney - prime soap opera.


And, of course, Mae West's two pre-Code starring vehicles SHE DONE HIM WRONG and I'M NO ANGEL.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2004, 08:11:10 AM
Yes, indeed, welcome Dear Reader bfried.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2004, 08:20:02 AM
Welcom new Dear Reader BFried, you have good taste in movies. MADAM SATAN is a good one! I have always loved Kay Johnson! She is wonderful in JALNA, which I will mention as one of my favorite films of the early 30s!

NIGHT NURSE is a good pre-code film as well as MIRACLE WOMAN...both with Barbara Stanwyck.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 04, 2004, 08:41:52 AM
DRMattH,

I agree with you about After Dark.

My friend Clifford subscribed to After Dark and may still have every issue (including the one with photos of Arnold). I've heard it referred to as a closeted magazine, but After Dark was, as you say, wonderfully entertaining - and innovative - and included great photos by Ken Duncan.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 08:44:25 AM
Synchronicity NEW DR bfried.  I just watched MADAM SATAN the other night!  What a wacky show!

Yes DR KERRY all the pictures were so dreamy.

My question for ASKBK day....what does an art director do if a movie is shot for the most part ON LOCATION?

Thanks for the good vibes....budget cuts may reduce my division....and at 10 years at my desk I am the new guy!
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Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2004, 08:58:05 AM
Continued good vibes to DR JRand53. You can't get cut otherwise Ebay might go out of business!

 [move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%] ;D  ;)  :D  ;)  ;D  :)  :o  :-*  :D  ;)  :)  ;D  :D [/move]
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 04, 2004, 08:59:24 AM
goodvibinggoodvibinggoodvibinggoodvibinghisexygoo dvibinggoodvibinggoodvibinggoodvibinggoodvibinggo odvibing

To JRand53
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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 04, 2004, 09:04:00 AM
ALW expose?

(Lloyd Webber) tells The Stage (http://www.whatsonstage.com/dl/page.php?page=greenroom&chan=wos&story=E8821075904766) that he will “beat the drum a wee bit” in the House of Lords...

der Brucer (awaiting the filmed event)
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 04, 2004, 09:09:46 AM
Well, hoping for some classy artistic discussion I visited DVDPlace where I was hustled off to a USA Today article: A brief history of the boob tube (http://www.usatoday.com/life/columnist/popcandy/2004-02-03-pop-candy_x.htm?csp=1) where there was this delightful gratuitous bit of Blame Canada:

2000: Bunches of breasts grab the spotlight when Naked News, a Canadian piece of infotainment, makes its TV debut. The gimmick involves news anchors that deliver weather reports, sports scores and top headlines, all while stripping down to their birthday suits!

Rating: D-cup. As if Celine Dion weren't crazy enough, there's just no telling what those Canadians will come up with next.

der Brucer (advance "The devil-made-me do-its" to Jennifer, Emily, and Dan)


 
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Post by: CharlieToft on February 04, 2004, 09:14:03 AM
Ahh. How I love pre-code films.

TORCH SINGER with Claudette Colbert is a particular favorite as is Clara Bow's CALL HER SAVAGE.

A most tantalizing pre-code film is the lost CONVENTION CITY (1933) with Joan Blondell, Dick Powell, Guy Kibbee & Adolph Menjou. Filled with racy if not raunchy dialogue ("Why dontcha take that toupee off?" "I'll take off my toupee when you take off your dress!") it sounds like a riot.

Here's a page that describes it, along with a lost two-strip Technicolor gem, THE GOLD DIGGERS OF BROADWAY (1929):

http://www.geocities.com/~ppicking/vitaphone64.html
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2004, 09:15:51 AM
I kept a bunch of my AFTER DARKs but by the time I moved from my second apartment into the house I'm living in now, I had junked them as just too much to cart around from place to place. Wish I had them back now, though.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2004, 09:26:50 AM
DR Charlie Toft, those sound like fun movies! I am sometimes quite surprised at what is in the pre-code films...but they manage it all without being gratuitous.

INTERNATIONAL HOUSE is another one I love.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2004, 09:32:28 AM
I can't believe it is only 9:30 am. This is going to be a very loooooooooong day at work, I think!

Where is BK this morning. He must be sleeping in.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 09:36:02 AM
DR's TD and MATTH watch your mailbox on Friday!
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Post by: Panni on February 04, 2004, 09:37:52 AM
Good morning. And good vibes to JRand 53.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 04, 2004, 09:53:47 AM
I kept a bunch of my AFTER DARKs but by the time I moved from my second apartment into the house I'm living in now, I had junked them as just too much to cart around from place to place. Wish I had them back now, though.



Maybe not. I think I may have just packed the last of a zillion boxes of books and records (and some magazines) that my mom had collected (and enjoyed) over the years. Right now: all I want to do is scale down.

By the way, if anyone is hunting for a particular jazz, folk, soundtrack (or other) LP, drop me a note. It just may be in one of the boxes.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 04, 2004, 09:56:15 AM
BK,

Great interview. Is there any chance of its getting circulated beyond HHW? It really deserves a wide readership (and may give Alet's career a boost).
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Post by: William E. Lurie on February 04, 2004, 09:57:47 AM
Regarding TRIPLETS OF BELVILLE, there is so little dialogue that it doesn't need subtitles.

Concerning the AFTER DARK cover... during most of the time that AFTER DARK was being published I was living in Buffalo and the only place you could buy it was at Porn Shops.  I always felt that the proper name for the publication should have been "The Closet".  It was a soft core gay pron magazine pretending to be a legitimate arts magazine.  There is nothing wrong with that, per se, but they used the arts coverage to hide the real purpose of the magazine.  It's a shame that they did this as  many of the articles were interesting, but then people only say they read read PLAYBOY for the articles as well.
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 10:15:29 AM
I never remember the names of the pre-codes I like, but I do remember one with Constance Bennett or Joan Bennett or some Bennett that was really funny.

Favorite noir - very tough.  Double Indemnity or The Big Sleep.

Art directors, whether in the studio or on location would make the settings work for the film.  

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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 04, 2004, 10:16:46 AM
Now the Fat is in the Fire!
(No, DR SWW is not in the kitchen)

(http://www.foxnews.com/images/115477/5_2_300_227_gaymarriage_mass.jpg)

Anything less than marriage unconstitutional, state's highest bench rules, paving way for first gay weddings in nation this May.

Full Story at FNC (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110432,00.html)

der Brucer (wondering if the MA legislature will defy their own Supreme Court - if they do not, Gay Marriage will surely move front and center for the Nov 04 Election)


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Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 10:17:04 AM
Craig will be posting at the usual places re Alet's interview, but if you have any other ideas we'd love to get the word out.  I think every aspiring young performer should read it.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 04, 2004, 10:39:00 AM
Craig will be posting at the usual places re Alet's interview, but if you have any other ideas we'd love to get the word out.  I think every aspiring young performer should read it.




I was thinking People Magazine.
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Post by: Lulu on February 04, 2004, 10:44:47 AM
Oh my God.

See, this is why I love HHW.  I peek in here and BK is talking about Mystery Street (starring Ricardo "Yes, these are my real pecs" Montalban) and MBarnum is rhapsodizing over International House, probably my fave WC Fields movie.  Two fine films that nobody else in the world would have the slightest idea what the sam hill I was talking about if I mentioned, yet here OTHER people bring them up as topics for discussion.  Lordy Lord, I am home.

Some fave pre-codes:

A Free Soul  (Norma "Put 'em around me" Shearer makes the sign of the triple-gilled anaconda with Clark Gable and wears a see-through dress.  Lionel Barrymore expires from all the excitement)

Redheaded Woman  (Jean Harlow seduces her boss, marries him, takes up with chauffeur Charles Boyer, nearly kills the hubby after he dumps her...and has a happy ending anyway)

Night Nurse  (Barbara Stanwyck peels down to her slip (as does best bud Joan Blondell) whenever the action flags, which come to think of it, isn't all that often, as Babs falls in love with a bootlegger, fights to save the lives of her young charges when she discovers a plot to murder them for their inheritance, and gets socked by Clark Gable.  Fave line: "I'm a dipsomaniac and I like it, do ya hear me?   I LIKE IT!")

Baby Face  (Barbara Stanwyck has sex with, like, the WHOLE WORLD (including an impossibly young John Wayne) to get to the tippy-top of her profession)

Red Dust  (Jean Harlow, Clark Gable, and Mary Astor in a love triangle on a rubber plantation.  Need I say more?)

Downstairs  (Chauffeur John Gilbert seduces pretty much every female within eyesight in this tawdry yet entertaining version of Upstairs, Downstairs)

Female  (Titan of Industry Ruth Chatterton sleeps with her studly underlings and, when they inevitably fall in love with her, ships them off to a branch office and moves on to the next conquest)

I'm sure I'll think of more later.

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Post by: Lulu on February 04, 2004, 10:58:05 AM
Good vibes to Jrand, who doesn't need them, as nobody would be dumb enough to let him go anywhere, but just in case, here they are.

And ooooh!  Ooohh!  I have a QUESTION FOR ASK BK DAY!  I actually thought of this one the other day and have been saving it.  It is multi-part; I hope that's okay.

Numero uno:  What do you think is the real story behind Stanley Kubrick's films all being released in full-frame versions?  His widow and daughters insist that was the way he wanted it, and I've read someone claiming that he preferred to compose for 1.33:1, and only composed for a wider screen reluctantly, and under duress.  But there are some other reasons to believe that this isn't true; at least not always (ie: the helicopter blades at the beginning of The Shining).  Where do you fall on this Eternal Debate?  And why?

Numero Two-o:  Why do studios seem to try to fool people about the nature of pan and scan by renaming it "full-frame" or "fullscreen"?  If they want to offer both versions, fine (philistines need love, too).  But why on earth try to trick people into thinking that you actually get the complete picture with "fullscreen"?  When most of offerings nowadays are either in widescreen only or both widescreen and fullscreen, what do the studios possibly have to gain with their Orwellian doubletalk?

I thank you.
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Post by: Panni on February 04, 2004, 11:03:45 AM
DERBRUCER - You sent your private message to "Panni" instead of "PennyO"... Close, but no cigar.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2004, 11:05:20 AM
der Brucer (who assures all DRs that if he's ever arrested for the T-Shirt he's wearing, it will contain something more provocative than computer code)
And trust me, he's got a T-Shirt collection that has to be kept under lock and key, and away from his daughter grandkids.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 11:07:04 AM
Thanks DR LULU.

So what does the location manager do?
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Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2004, 11:09:21 AM
Lulu, you mentioned some pre-code movies I had forgotten about! Those are some goodies!

There is one I am trying to recall that had, I think, Pat O'Brien as a telephone repairman  and in one scene he goes to the apartment with 3 lesbians in it. It is a classic scene! It was on TCM not long ago, just can't recall the title.
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 11:22:26 AM
Lulu: The Kubrick issue - I believe the statements attributed to Mr. Kubrick were all made prior to him knowing anything about hi-def transfers or what DVD or widescreen TVs were capable of.  These statements were made years and years ago for the VHS and laserdisc markets.  It is naive to think that a filmmaker would frame his films for a ratio they would not be projected in.  In England his films would have been shown in 1:66, in the US, always 1:85.  And why is Barry Lyndon and Clockwork Orange matted at 1:66 on the currently released DVDs?  It makes no sense.  It, in fact, is a load of BS.  Just watch the open matte version of The Shining.  It's more than just seeing the blades of the helicopter or its shadow.  It's the ridiculous amount of headroom in every single shot.  If one has a widescreen TV one can press ZOOM, which effectively makes the image 1:78.  Well, guess what?  When you do that the image looks perfectly framed.  And why not include both on a DVD anyway?  It's utter nonsense.

The full frame or fullscreen issue is even more convoluted.  First, there is full frame as in open matte - that is not pan and scan - they simply expose the entire negative, even though that is not what the director or cameraman intended.  Pan and scan can be done on films that are hard matted to 1:85 or that have things at the top and bottom of the frame which shouldn't be seen,  but it's minor - they usually just keep the image centered and crop the sides.  Pan and scan of scope film, of course, is horrendous.
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Post by: TCB on February 04, 2004, 11:23:31 AM
Good morning / afternoon all!

Miss Midler was absolutely fantastic last evening.  Naturally she sends her best to one and all.  Her "Kiss My Brass" show is probably one of her best shows that I have seen since her early daily.  She did a nice mix of old and new songs, including several from the Rosemary Clooney tribute CD, and a surprisingly touching tribute to Mr. Rogers.  Her jokes were wonderful, covering not only all the topics from George Bush to Janet Jackson, but also lots of local humor for the Northwest folks.  There was one hysterical filmed segment where she faces of against the CBS Eye over her cancelled series in Judge Judy's courtroom, with Gary Coleman as the baliff.  If you have a chance to see this tour, don't miss it.

On the downside of the concert, as WEL noted, the concert here was in Seattle's Key Arena, a venue better suited for basketball and ice hockey than for concerts. I would think either the Paramount Theater or the new Beneroya Hall would have been preferable.  I don't think Bette was too pleased with the acoustical limitations of the Arena either.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2004, 11:31:41 AM
Good Afternoon!

What a beautiful day it is outside!  A clear, blue, sunny sky!  And the temperature is in the mid-40s - and may even hit the 50 mark!  We'll see.... In any case, it was so nice not to wake up to the gray and gloom of the past couple of days.  *The only drawback to all the snow melting today is that the "carelessness" of many(!) dog-owners and dog-walkers is in evidence.  Ah, well...

And I picked up my car at the shop!  And the bill was about $300 LESS than what I had been preparing to pay, what I was thinking I'd have to pay!  -Just more money for BBQ this weekend in Memphis!

And I received a copy of the "best of" tape from a round of auditions I played for last year!  If you thought American Idol was good/bad...  I was already laughing out loud when I was just opening the package!!!

So...

I'll check out the Alet Oury interview in a little bit... I believe I've played for her a few times in NYC at various auditions... Does she mention an amazing audiiton pianist in her interview?  ;)

I loved the pics posted yesterday!  Once I get some of mine scanned - and I've been meaning to for my own "records" - my parents tooks TONS of pics of all four their boys - and my Mom put together some really nice photo albums. -Oh, once I get some of the scanned, I'll be sure to post one or two.  -However, it may be a few weeks or months...

And as for last night's "American Idol" - I've never seen any of the prelim rounds until this season.  It's very neat seeing all the "process".  Unfortunately, it's just sad to see some of these kids get in there in own way, ruin their big chance all on their own.  I'm looking forward to tonight's show.  And it was nice to see the judges giving some of the contestants a second - or in some case a third or fourth - chance to make it to the final 32.

Oh, and since it's Ask BK Day:

How do you start your fireplace fire?  Kindling and wood?  Newspapers?  Do you start off with a DuraFlame and then add firewood on top of that?  Oh, and where do you get your firewood from?  Or do you have a gas fireplace?

*My apartment has two fireplaces, but, unfortunately, they're both bricked up - I love fires!  Well, fireplace fires!
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Post by: William E. Lurie on February 04, 2004, 11:37:14 AM
TCB - Were the tickets as grossly overpriced in Seattle as they were here?  I might have paid $250 for a good seat in an actual theatre, but not at MSG.

My favorite pre-code movie is the 1930 camp classic MADAME SATAN, a musical directed by Cecil B. deMille and starring Lillian "I'll Cry Tomorrow" Roth.  It shows up occasionally on TCM.

Apparently the benefit concert of FINIAN'S RAINBOW that Irish Rep did a few months ago was such a success (despite the number of empty seats) that they will be doing it for two months starting in April.  The Sharon of that benefit, Mellissa Errico, will be repeating her role, but they will have to find a new Og since Dennis O'Hare will be doing ASSASSINS at the time.

I've heard there will be another revival of CAMELOT next season with Liam Neeson.  His mother-in-law starred in the movie.  Could his wife co-star in this revival?  She's probably a little old for the role, but then again, so is he (and Burton and Andrews weren't as young as the characters when they did it).

With "Retreat From Moscow" closing (I'd better stop procrastinating and see it), that means three adjacent theatres - The Booth, The Shubert and The Broadhurst will all be empty by the beginning of March.
None is likely to be filled before fall at the earliest.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2004, 11:38:13 AM
OH!  -So, who wants to move to Massachusetts?  :-)

-And since I was born in Boston...  First the Patriots win the Super Bowl this week, and now this!!
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Post by: TCB on February 04, 2004, 11:46:38 AM
And one last bitch about concert venue's, such as Key Arena, before moving on to other topics.  At the price you pay to see a concert like Miss M's (about $100.00 for middle-range tickets in Seattle), I think a concertgoer deserves a theater-type seat to sit on for three hours, rather than a badly-padded folding chair.  That is a travesty!  Today I feel like three hours in those awful seats have almost single-handedly reversed the work of two noted surgeons and two back operations.  I can't remember when I have been is this much pain with my back.

And since I am bitching, who the Hell would bring young children to a Bette Midler concert???  I am quite sure that they have all heard the "F-word" in their young lives, but rarely as the punchline of numerous jokes.  What a wonderful lesson it teaches our youth, that by saying the "F-word" you can make a couple thousand sane adults suddenly fall out of their chairs laughing.
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Post by: Jay on February 04, 2004, 11:52:01 AM
OH!  -So, who wants to move to Massachusetts?  :-)

Is that a proposal, Dear Reader JoseSPiano?
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 04, 2004, 12:02:56 PM
Hope your day is so much better than you were anticipating JRand. Good wishes from the other side of the world.
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 12:22:13 PM
Might I just ask a simple question?  Where in tarnation IS everyone?  I mean, really.  We had close to 100 posts yesterday by this time.  No lulls.  No vacations.  We must soon be the most popular site on all the Internet so let's get some postin' goin' on, shall we?
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Post by: Emily on February 04, 2004, 12:25:27 PM
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bored.

Today has been spent at work where I did data entry into our brand spanking new database for THREE hours straight (ugh ugh ugh).  I now am following that wonderful mroning with an afternoon entranced in "KEY THINKERS IN CHRISTIANITY" which is undeniably the most boring book ever written in the history of the academic world so that I can "reflect" on it for my course on Canadian Church History.  Life sucks.  :(

To make matters worse it took me TWO HOURS to actually get to work this morning via bus/metro/metro/bus.  Snow sucks and me getting snow in my boot and having to live with wet feet sucks more.  :( :(

Anselm of Canterbury and Friedrich Daniel Ernst Schleiermacher lived very very boring lives.  I never want to go to a Christian theologian's dinner party.  :( :( :(

My Question to BK:

If A&E were to do a special Bruce Kimmel Biography which you yourself did not take part in, which people would you like to have interviewed about your life?  
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Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 12:26:47 PM
Hi bfried and welcome.  Where in New Jersey are you from?  My youngest son was born in Hackensack but we lived in Oakland.
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Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 12:28:22 PM
Am I the only one, who when I put down the window with today's topic gets a nice SHOCK :)

? ???
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2004, 12:29:09 PM
My favourite pre-code movie is without a doubt 1932's TARZAN & HIS MATE...what a surreal fantasy and what overt sexuality. The two white hunters watching Maureen O'Sullivan's silhouette against a tent as she changes clothes, Tarz and Jane living in sin and making the most of it, Jane's nude swimming scene.

William Lurie, I kinda felt the same way about AFTER DARK...I bought several copies back in the early seventies (which I still have in a box somewhere), because they contained some really great arts articles, but after while, the beefcake quotient became so blatant, the magazine started telling us in no uncertain terms where its real interest lay...

There was another magazine that came out about the same time that I really liked called SHOW, the magazine of film and the arts, published by Huntington Hartford.  It went through several formats before it eventually went the way of the world.  I think there was actually an early attempt at this magazine in the mid-sixties too.  I still have a copy of Ursula Andress on the cover as SHE.  And I have all my copies from the seventies era.  Here were the top ten films from the July 9th, 1970 issue:  Airport, Woodstock, MASH, Patton, Let It Be, Boys in the Band, Z, Bloody Mama, The Adventurers, and Anne of a Thousand Days (This is mid-summer, remind you).  Top Ten Broadway:  Applause, Company, Last of the Red Hot lovers, Hair, Butterflies Are Free, Coco, Promises, Promises, Child's Play, Hello, Dolly, 1776.  Top Ten albums:  Let It Be (Beatles), McCartney (Paul McCartney; Deja Vu (Crosby, Stills, Nash); Hemdrix Band of Gypsys (Jimi Hendrix); Tom (Tom Jones); Woodstock (soundtrack); Bridge Over Troubled Water (Simon and Garfunkel); Chicago (Chicago); American Woman (Guess Who); Greatest Hits (Fifth Dimension).

Carol Burnett, Mayberry RFD, Bonanza, Here's Lucy, and Marcus Welby were in the top ten telly shows.  Love story was number #1 on the Bestseller list, other topsellers:  French Lieutenant's Woman, Deliverance, Travels with My Aunt, The godfather (at #6)...Everything You Wanted to Know About Sex, Mary Queen of Scots, The New English Bible, The Sensuous Woman, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings.

I even remember Hef's foray into an Arts magazine called Show Business Illustrated, I think. I also think I have a couple of copies.  My father bought them.

Der Brucer, thanks for the interesting article on Piracy, which I think a genuine issue but, I often think the battlefronts are confusing.

I was on the WGA board when the Film Studios bulldozed through the copyright extension, which really burned my butt.  It was further burned when the WGA supported it.  This extension does not help individual writers or artists at all.  Only companies like Disney who want to continue their stranglehold on Mickey Mouse and sue some poor daycare center when they paint Mickey's image up on their wall.

75 years after the author's death was more than enough time for any of the author's heirs to financially exploit his labour.  If they can't milk it after that, they should just go and a get a real job and stop living off a long-dead corpse.  

Books and other material that would have fallen into public domain for other writers to adapt to other media or use in other creative ways, or that could have been published anew and brought to new audiences have  been condemned to another 25 years of uselessness and fading memory.

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Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2004, 12:32:20 PM
Concerning the AFTER DARK cover... during most of the time that AFTER DARK was being published I was living in Buffalo and the only place you could buy it was at Porn Shops.  I always felt that the proper name for the publication should have been "The Closet".  It was a soft core gay pron magazine pretending to be a legitimate arts magazine.  There is nothing wrong with that, per se, but they used the arts coverage to hide the real purpose of the magazine.  It's a shame that they did this as  many of the articles were interesting, but then people only say they read read PLAYBOY for the articles as well.
Well, DR WEL, for a long time it was impossible to find The Advocate in anything other than porn shops.  This was quite strange, as it billed itself as a news magazine and never had the photography for which After Dark was noted.  There was the classified ads section, of course, but the Advocate was never a porn production, even of the soft sort.

For those interested in what the articles in After Dark were like, I found the following in a cursory Yahoo check:

An interview with Leonard Cohen (http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/afterd.html)

An interview with Madeline Kahn (http://mkahnfan.tripod.com/mkafterd.txt)

An interview with Cat Stevens (http://www.majicat.com/articles/afterdark72.htm)

And an interview with Ann-Margret. (http://home.swipnet.se/~w-60241/Ann-Margret/various/magazines/77ad.html)

As for the "closet" issue, I'm personally reluctant to condemn people in the 70s for not being out of said closet.  While the Stonewall Riots took place in '69, it took strong anti-gay ballot measures in Florida (http://www.advocate.com/html/stories/817_8/817_8_anita214.asp) in '77 and California (http://www.camprehoboth.com/issue11_27_02/pastout.htm) in '78 to get the gay community off of their apathetic buns.  Being out of the closet, publicly, was something that for the vast majority of the gay community had never been tried before, and weren't ready to try.  People were afraid of losing their jobs, their homes, anything that gave them any shred of security.  I should know; even twenty years ago, when I came out at work, most of my friends looked at me like I was crazy.

And maybe I was.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2004, 12:37:53 PM
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Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 12:43:12 PM
Derbrucer it looks to me like Penny was on the left.  What do you think Bruce?

Tomovoz you were so rugged looking, definitely a professor.  You just needed a pipe to compliment the look.

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Good vibes to Jrand[/move]

JoseSPiano congrats on getting your car back.  

TCB I hope your back is better soon.  Do you have some stretches or something to help?  It sure can ruin a show when you are in pain.

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Post by: Panni on February 04, 2004, 12:47:18 PM
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bored.

DR Emily - You've made my day. Don't misunderstand, I'm sorry you're bored. But reading your post made me think about the fact that it has been years and years since I've been bored. There are not too many great things one can say about getting older (note, I said "older" not "old") - but one unexpected bonus is the blessed end of boredom. I do remember how horribly, painfully bored I could get as a kid, a teenager, a young adult. I would feel like I'd simply BURST if something didn't happen. But all that is over. There are times that are more stimulating than others, yes. But, thank goodness, even when doing nothing (a rare and welcome event) I am not bored. Even when doing "boring" things, I am not bored. After years of living, one's head gets crowded with so much, that things are never dull. So, indeed, youth is wasted on the young, but boredom is not. I'm glad, so glad, that  I'm not bored anymore. (a GIGI reference)
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Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 12:47:18 PM
For months I’ve been saying I can’t afford to get sick until after I return from Bethesda.  Guess what-I’m sick.  No wonder I was so tired yesterday.  Last night I suddenly began coughing & have a head cold.  Mostly I’m really tired & feel groggy as if I took something, which I didn’t.  I’m going to make some soup and, MBarnum, I am going to watch Night Nurse.
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Post by: CharlieToft on February 04, 2004, 12:47:22 PM
The Zeppelin party in MADAM SATAN is tremendous fun, but I find the rest of the film very heavy going. God bless Lillian Roth.

There is a Kay Francis film about Manhattan high society party girls that's also a hoot, filled with drop-dead Deco interiors. Lillyan Tashman is also in it, and I'm too lazy to look it up on the Movie Database. Forgot the title.


MURDER AT THE VANITIES is an especially snappy pre-code musical as FOLLOW THROUGH.

Two or three years ago, Columbia struck new prints of some pre-code musical shorts, some with a teenaged Betty Grable. One (I think called SCHOOL FOR ROMANCE) featured Betty and some other girls stripping down to their lace dainties (pre-code films loved showing women in underwear...truly a fetishest' delight) and thier pert nipples were very much visible through the sheer silk.
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Post by: Panni on February 04, 2004, 12:48:11 PM
Feel better, Jane. Good health vibes your way.
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Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 12:49:39 PM
Panni - LOL  There is great truth in what you said.
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Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 12:50:22 PM
Thanks Panni.  
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2004, 12:50:23 PM
Pert nipples?!  Did someone say pert nipples?!  Where?!
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Post by: Emily on February 04, 2004, 12:50:31 PM
Leonard Cohen went to McGill! woo hoo!  school spirit! huzzah!

okay... back to Augustine, etc.  :(
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 12:55:17 PM
Pert Nipples is the title of my new book!  Only kidding.

Emily: If they were to do a Biography of me and I didn't take part, they could interview any of the singers I've worked with, they could interview Harvey Schmidt, Todd Ellison, my brother, my daughter, my college professors, and Guy Haines.
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Post by: Panni on February 04, 2004, 12:56:37 PM
...and Luckie.
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Post by: Panni on February 04, 2004, 12:57:27 PM
Who would finally reveal the REAL reason for all the peeing.
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Post by: Panni on February 04, 2004, 12:58:41 PM
...That's Luckie's peeing, not bk's.
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Post by: Panni on February 04, 2004, 01:00:51 PM
I need help ASAP. (No smart remarks, please.) I'm trying to describe the window of any upscale grocery market (like Gelson's) at Thanksgiving. What would they have on display?
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Post by: Emily on February 04, 2004, 01:07:41 PM
horns 'of plenty

or is that horns of plenties?
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 04, 2004, 01:09:10 PM
Sorry to read you are groggy Jane. Hope next time you have a better cause. I hope the bug finds a new home (not with Keith) soon.
Professor: I doubt if my students saw me that way. If I had a pipe I would probably blow soap bubbles. Thanks anyway. I think the photo was taken by a colleague.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 04, 2004, 01:13:32 PM
No doubt the readers will come up with a cornucopia of ideas Panni. Perhaps Amalthaea herself or Zeus. it's all greek to me.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2004, 01:17:02 PM
Christopher Meloni Picture of the Week:

Here he plays Gene, a psychotic Vietnam veteran acting as the cook at a summer camp in the comedy WET HOT AMERICAN SUMMER. During the film, he has sex with a refrigerator.


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Post by: Panni on February 04, 2004, 01:18:45 PM
No doubt the readers will come up with a cornucopia of ideas

I've already described an overflowing cornucopia and a papier-mache turkey.
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Post by: TCB on February 04, 2004, 01:20:50 PM
Pert nipples?!  Did someone say pert nipples?!  Where?!

Just remember, DR Charles Pogue, how old a movie we are talking about.  By now, the nipples would probably be pert-less.  
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Post by: Lulu on February 04, 2004, 01:22:33 PM
Poor Jane!  I'm sorry you're under the weather.  Hope you feel better soon...and tell us what you thought of Night Nurse! ;)

DR Charles Pogue reminded me of another favorite: Tarzan and his Mate.  ITA it's quite a little scorcher.

I also forgot Three on a Match, a wholesome little film wherein Bette Davis is the GOOD one!  (Joan Blondell does time at a School For Girls - the kind where the windows have iron bars - and Ann Dvorak leaves her rich husband and adorable son for evil lech Lyle Talbot then develops quite the little coke-and-heroin habit).  Great flick, with (as the ad copy might have put it at the time) a NERVE-SHATTERING CONCLUSION!

BK: Thank you for your clarification of the meaning of full-frame (as opposed to fullscreen).  I still think they're trying to put something over on people with their terminology, though I can't figure out why they'd want to.  
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2004, 01:24:46 PM
Yes, those Stanley Kubrick unmatted DVDs make my blood boil. Oh, I have them, but like bk, I use one of the widescreen modes on my set to crop the film to the correct proportions.

When I went to see THE GRIFTERS at the theater many years ago, the projectionist had failed to matte the projector, and I spent the entire movie seeing boom mikes and cables in shot after shot. I'd try to concentrate on the people (and the movie was so damn good that it was VERY frustrating trying to keep my eyes from wandering up toward the top of the screen to see what I could see.) I bought the Special Edition DVD a couple of months ago and really for the first time saw THE GRIFTERS the way it was meant to be seen.
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Post by: Lulu on February 04, 2004, 01:30:51 PM
Panni: How about squash, gourds, pumpkins, and Indian corn?

Better yet, they could have paid an artist beau coup bucks to produce fakes of all those items.  Not papier mache, though...I dunno, maybe shot-gold slubbed silk over copper wire armatures?

Just an idea.
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Post by: Lulu on February 04, 2004, 01:33:41 PM
Oh!  Pilgrim dioramas!  Displayed by the local chi-chi private school, and all WAY too good for kids to have done them...we can draw our own conclusions.
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Post by: Jay on February 04, 2004, 01:34:29 PM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]High spirit vibes to Dear Reader JRand 53!!![/move]

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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2004, 01:35:00 PM
TCB, better to have been pert and sagged, then never to have been pert at all.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on February 04, 2004, 01:42:37 PM
First and foremost, I just finished reading the Alet Oury interview (the hell with the work I am supposed to be doing) and it was fascinating.  Other than the BK CDs and the LOUISIANA PURCHASE CD I am not familiar with her work but I'd love to hear more.  And she turned what could have come off as a made-for-Lifetime movie plot into a great interview.  She sounds like a super lady and I wish her nothing but the best.  Now when is the interview with Ida Mae Whiffle?

Regarding "The Advocate" being sold only at porno stores, there may not have been pictures, but those ads in the Classifieds (once called "Trader Dick" and later "The Pink Pages") were really for Adults Only.  The funny thing is, when it split into two magazines - "The Advocate" and "Advocate Classifieds" - they ruined the whole things  It was like breaking up a good solid dinner and an excellent dessert into two different meals.  One really needed the other to make it complete.

As for show business magazines, the best ever was published for about a year starting in the summer of 1961 by Hugh Heffner of all people (despite the fact that there were no nude pictures or anything remotely Playboyish about it).  It was called SHOW BUSINESS ILLUSTRATED and featured excellent articles, interviews and reviews.  Patrick Dennis' LITTLE ME was serialized (pictures and all) in the first seven issues of SBI before it was published in book form.  And this was a magazine for all age groups unlike today's equivalent  ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY which is strictly for the under 30 crowd.
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Post by: Robin on February 04, 2004, 01:43:48 PM
der Brucer (who assures all DRs that if he's ever arrested for the T-Shirt he's wearing, it will contain something more provocative than computer code)

Well, I've never been arrested for wearing a t-shirt, but I have one that actually gets me yelled at from time to time.  It reads "Blasphemy is a Victimless Crime".  It always does my heart good.  I also have a shirt that apparently says something rather risque in Japanese...
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Post by: Robin on February 04, 2004, 01:49:21 PM
Oh, and as far as pre-cold Hollywood movies go, like DR Charles Pogue, I'm going for Tarzan and His Mate, which not only showed some skin, but showed sex as being healthy and fun.  And what could possibly be wrong with that?  

I could bitch and moan about Johnny Weissmuller not being true to Edgar Rice Burroughs, but this movie (and Tarzan the Ape Man, for that matter) are so good it's difficult to whine about it.  
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Post by: Robin on February 04, 2004, 01:50:06 PM
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2004, 01:53:54 PM
I always liked CUE magazine. Does anyone else remember it?

I hope and pray that Natasha Richardson isn't signed to play Guenivere in CAMELOT opposite her husband. Just like her mother in the film, she's a beautiful woman without an ounce of singing talent. That worked fine in CABARET where Sally was supposed to be a second rate singer, but those songs in CAMELOT need a vocal artist to do them justice. Oh, sure, she can "act" them as her mother did, but it lessens their impact tremendously. I do NOT want to see a CAMELOT where either Guenivere or Lancelot doesn't have a trained voice.
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 01:54:18 PM
I loved Show Business Illustrated - one of my favorite magazines ever.  And wasn't there another one called Show?  And then there was the marvelous Cinema.  They have nothing today that is as wonderful as those were.  And, for me, the granddaddy of all great show mags, Theatre Arts.
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Post by: Ann on February 04, 2004, 02:05:24 PM
Good afternoon all
I'm afraid I'm starting to slip under the weather myself.  No mean feat, I can tell you.  For the last six months i've been lucky in avoiding the sicknesses that the children pass between themselves, but now i'm getting the feeling that my luck has run out.  I just hope it does what colds usually do with me, and never really take hold.  
No BK questions as of yet...give me time to think...
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Post by: TCB on February 04, 2004, 02:10:44 PM
BTW (By the way in Internet lingo), WEL, I didn't mean to ignore your earlier question, but I was in transit from home to work when you posted it.  I beleive the top ticket price for Bette Middler last night was $150.00, which is about right for Seattle prices.  Unfortunately, I don't think they had seats that were any more comfortable than mine at one and a half times the price.

DR Jane, thank you for the good wishes.  I hope you get to feeling better soon, too.  Fortunately, my back didn't start to bother me until the concert had ended and I had to try and walk up two flights of stairs.  Swell!  But at least, it didn't bother me during the show.

Oh, and for all you Broadway lovers, Bette did a wonderful production number called Fishtails on Broadway featuring her mermaid character, Delores Delgado, along with her Harlettes trying to go from carnival sideshow to Broadway stardom (using some of the corniest marine-life show tune takeoffs I have ever heard:  i.e.  …..All That Shad).  I thought it was great, although The Hollywood Reporter didn’t seem to share my enthusiasm.  
 
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 02:12:15 PM
Thanks to all the DR's for the vibeage.  I should know tomorrow or so what the outcome will be!  ;D

All these magazines and movies....oh my I am having a flashback!  8)

Hold it, Newt - there were articles in  After Dark?  I have a couple of issues around - the others long gone.  

Show Business IllustratedShow

I loved them all!  :P

Didn't Pert Nipples play Mrs Paroo in The Music Man?
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 02:12:38 PM
OH and TOMOVOZ - thanks for the beautiful calendar!
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 02:16:53 PM
Jeff Goldblum is THE FLY right now on Fox Movie Channel....another nickel for DR Charles Pogue!

To be followed by LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN.....  Gene Tierney is remarkable in this movie....."I'll never let you go....."
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2004, 02:17:42 PM
BK, Yes, there was SHOW, which I go on about for some length in my first post of the day (page two, I believe) as well as SBI.
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Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2004, 02:35:21 PM
And as for last night's "American Idol" - I've never seen any of the prelim rounds until this season.  It's very neat seeing all the "process".  Unfortunately, it's just sad to see some of these kids get in there in own way, ruin their big chance all on their own.  I'm looking forward to tonight's show.  And it was nice to see the judges giving some of the contestants a second - or in some case a third or fourth - chance to make it to the final 32.



They have never shown this many of the audition shows in past years. But I think they saw how popular they were, so we got 2 full weeks of it.

I like watching the 100+ get widdled down to 32.  But it's hard to keep track of who was cut.

I do wish that the public had some say. Because I'm sure a bunch of favorites will not make it to the 32.

I felt so bad that a bunch of them forgot their lines (seemed like a lot of them did that). But there were a few I really liked who froze (one really pretty brunette).

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Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2004, 02:38:17 PM
DR Jane: If you take today's subject "FLICKERING FLAMES" ... when I put the page down, all I see is the L and I glued togeter to make a U  (that is what I meant by shock) :)
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Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2004, 02:42:11 PM
DR Jose and others: Re: American Idol

Someone involved in music/theatre mentioned to me that they found it extremely odd that the original auditions were done without a piano or anything.  Does anyone else find that strange?  I mean obviously Jose, you only do auditions where they use a piano (since you play piano). But would anybody else ever ask people to sing a capella?
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Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2004, 02:47:19 PM
Feel better DR Jane. And TCB I hope your back gets better soon.

I would like to say that people who have snowblowers and sneak onto your driveway to help remove the snow deserve many good vibes (like my neighbor did today) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2004, 03:02:09 PM
Singing a capella is a good way to see who can hold their pitch. Plus they can shuffle people in and out so much more quickly.

Tonight's show is going to be a fingernail biting exercise in anxiety. Already I've invested some hope in some of these contestants, and I'm eager to see if they make it to the next round. Amazing how they've given us JUST enough to get intrigued by some of the performers.
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Post by: Michael on February 04, 2004, 03:05:39 PM
Pert Nipples is the title of my new book!  Only kidding.

Emily: If they were to do a Biography of me and I didn't take part, they could interview any of the singers I've worked with, they could interview Harvey Schmidt, Todd Ellison, my brother, my daughter, my college professors, and Guy Haines.

Wasn't Pert Nipples in The Music Man and the original Alice on the Honeymooners?
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 04, 2004, 03:11:58 PM
Panni - for the upscale Thanksgiving window. The words "free range" and "organic" and "grain fed" might appear somewhere. Also: a big dried-flower arrangement; picture-perfect apples (in a bushel basket); and  autumn leaves and branches tastefully festooned. And don't forget those chestnuts in your freezer. (Or are they more Christmassy?)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2004, 03:14:14 PM
Good Afternoon/Dusk!

Well, I headed out and got my hair cut.  And then I proceeded over to Target, bought a set of hair clippers, and "fixed" my haircut.  -That's what you get when you try a new barber!  -And the posssibility of driving up and back to Fairfax tomorrow - two hours each way - to go my usual barber did cross my mind.  In any case, the original cut I got today wan't bad, it's just wasn't good.  And since I've been toying with getting a set of my own clippers, I figured what the hell.  And I have to say, the "new and improved" haircut came out rather well.  I'm just thankful that I have very "clipper cut friendly" hair - I just have to put the guides on the clippers and just start moving them over my head.  So...

American Idol - I think the primary reason for the unaccompanied auditions is time.  To "process" that many people takes lots of time as it is.  To add the additional time of having someone walk to a piano, talk to the pianist, start an intro, etc...  They would simply not able to hear everyone.  Also, most of the contestants probably practice without a piano - most likely they just sing along with a recording.  Going into an audition like the AI ones without sheet music and a pianist to play it is also a "favor" to the auditionees.  In a way, it sort of makes it easier for them to be able to go to the audition - they just have to bring themself to the audition.  -And like Broadway selections, a lot of pop stuff is not published in the right key.  And, frankly, a lot of it sounds horrible played on a piano - especially the beat-driven, sample-derived pieces.  Yadda, yadda, yadda...

-Singing unaccompanied is MUCH harder than with a piano, and from the judges standpoint, I guess it wuld make the screening much easier too.

DR Jane and DR Ann and DR TCB and DR JRand53- Good Health Vibes!

BK - Did you answer my fire question?




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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2004, 03:20:18 PM
DR Panni - As for a Thanksgiving Day window display - If it's a grocery store, I usually just see various things painted on the windows: the Mayflower, Pilgrim Hats, Indian headresses, turkeys - "live" and "cooked", cornucopias, pumpkins, pumpkin pies, etc...  Of course, all of this is next to the various Specials and Sales posted in the window too.
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Post by: SwishySarah on February 04, 2004, 03:30:18 PM
DR Matt H.- Speaking of Camelot, I had my audition for our schools prduction of it. My friend Rudy and I auditioned together. I went out, sang 2 pages of "The Simple Joys of Maidenhood", went backstage. He went out, sang a few bars of "Camelot", and then "C'est Moi". I returned, and we read through the first scene between Arthur and Guenevere. Rudy and I are very comfortable around each other, and trust one another. The scene ran very smoothly. When we finished, the panel of judges said "Wow...thank you VERY much."

While it was nice to get that reaction, I'm not getting my hopes up. I never audition well for musicals, and usually end up as a 'choral leader'. We shall see.

BK- A long time ago you said that the radio shows were going to be archived. Is that in progress?
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 03:34:15 PM
Break a leg DR SARAH!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2004, 03:37:48 PM
Oops - DR JRand53 - Sorry to have batched you in with the Good Health Vibes bunch... In any case, Good Vibes your way! :-)
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 03:39:26 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen - the Original Pert Nipples!   ;D

And titular head of Rita Marlowe Incorporated!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 03:40:10 PM
I take 'em anywhere I can get 'em DR JOSE! Thanks.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2004, 03:40:57 PM
DR Sarah - Thanks for sharing your audition story!  -And I guess I still owe you a package ;-)  -It's been sitting on my desk for a while, but with my "stuff" the past week...

Oh, and somewhere between Target and my apartment, I lost a hubcap - ???  Not bad since the car is ten years old... Although, it's kind of funny that the day I get my car back from the shop, I lose a hubcap - well, maybe it's not that funny.. ;)
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: td on February 04, 2004, 03:41:21 PM
So many fun topics today. . .and yesterday.  I'm still waiting to see a few photos from the 70s from a few of the DRS.

In fact it is so much fun here, that I really don't want to break up the mirth and merriment, but there are times (and there are days) when being the bearer of bad tidings is part of my life.

Dear Reader Evil Twin (aka Janet Fanale) lost her dear mother on Saturday - - I was only given the news this afternoon, so she really needs good vibes and consolation.

Fanale, Arlene Brent: Saturday, January 31, 2004. Predceased by her husband, Arthur. Survived by her daughters, Janet, Karen and Susan Fanale; sister, Rita (Ronald) Schiefen; nieces, nephews and cousins. Mrs. Fanale was the founder of the Rochester Repertory Company (Children Theatre Touring Company). Arlene was a playwright, director, producer and actress. Her plays were produced in Rochester and Buffalo.
Friends may call Monday 2-4, 7-9 at the JOHN M. HEDGES FUNERAL HOME,1717 Portland Ave. (at the corner of Portland Ave. and Ridge Rd. E.). Friends may attend Arlene's Funeral Mass, Tuesday at 9:15 A.M. at St. Ambrose Church. Interment, Holy Sepulchre Cemetery. Memorials may be directed to Nazareth College.


My warmest thoughts will be conveyed to Janet later this evening on the telephone.
I shall also be visiting the online e-card sites, and sending a sympathy card to her.  Should any other Dear Readers wish to follow suit, Janet's email address is JanFanale@aol.com

All good vibes would be appreciated.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2004, 03:48:16 PM
Having lost my mom in 1999, I understand exactly what the feelings are she must be experiencing. My heartfelt sympathy to her.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 03:55:36 PM
Sympathy and good thoughts and vibes of strength and remembrance....to Jane!
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Post by: TCB on February 04, 2004, 03:58:53 PM
I think today would be a good day to offer up a general set of good vibes to each and every one of us for all our health problems, career problems, school problems, artistic problems, finanacial problems, and court-realted problems.  
May all of the wonderful people of this site  have all of their problems resolved for the good and in record time..

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Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2004, 04:07:00 PM
My thoughts are with Janet and her family.
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Post by: Jay on February 04, 2004, 04:08:01 PM
I think today would be a good day to offer up a general set of good vibes to each and every one of us for all our health problems, career problems, school problems, artistic problems, finanacial problems, and court-realted problems.  
May all of the wonderful people of this site  have all of their problems resolved for the good and in record time..



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And to that, Dear Reader TCB, I heartily say "Amen!"
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: CharlieToft on February 04, 2004, 04:12:17 PM
Hm. Chris Meloni has pert nipples too!

"I wanted to prvce to Miss Loren that American women have breasts too."
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Kerry on February 04, 2004, 04:15:47 PM
I agree about the good vibes to everyone (not to lessen the importance of the good vibes to those who really need them at them moment).

We ALL need good vibes.  That's what HHW is for.
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Post by: Kerry on February 04, 2004, 04:16:25 PM
And Matt, thanks for the pic-- it made me smile.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 04:18:17 PM
What was the fire question, Jose?  I must have missed it?

We are still working on the radio archive - it's difficult because of our new host having a different sort of software.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: PennyO on February 04, 2004, 04:18:48 PM
DER BRUCER wrote:

der Brucer (wondering if the following data is current:

Bristol Riverside Theatre presents
Penny Orloff’s Solo Show
JEWISH THIGHS ON BROADWAY
Saturday, Feb. 21, 8 pm
Sunday, Feb. 22, 3 pm
120 Radcliffe St., Bristol, PA

If so Woody and I could easily drive up to applaud at appropriate times.
---

I would LOVE it if you would come to the show. I leave Saturday for Bristol. jane expressed some doubt that I was, as you said, in the middle in that pic... YES, that's me. The other lady is the extraordinarily hilarious Betsy Joslyn, and the third at the table is George Hearn. Now, that was FUN!!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 04:19:16 PM
Charlie - several people have asked: How did you find us?  A bit about yourself.  And what your photo is.  We're friendly sort here, don't be shy now.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: TCB on February 04, 2004, 04:23:40 PM
My deepest sympathies to Janet and her family.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2004, 04:25:07 PM
What was the fire question, Jose?  I must have missed it?

We are still working on the radio archive - it's difficult because of our new host having a different sort of software.

Fireplace - Kindling and firewood? Newspapers and firewood?  Kindling, newspapers and firewood?  Duraflame?  Duraflame and firewood?  Or a gas fireplace?
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 04:27:39 PM
DR Jane: If you take today's subject "FLICKERING FLAMES" ... when I put the page down, all I see is the L and I glued togeter to make a U  (that is what I meant by shock) :)

Got it.  ;D
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 04:28:25 PM
Duraflame.  And Mr. Toft, you don't wish to answer?
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: TCB on February 04, 2004, 04:31:42 PM
I agree about the good vibes to everyone (not to lessen the importance of the good vibes to those who really need them at them moment).

We ALL need good vibes.  That's what HHW is for.

I totally agree, DR Kerry.  I only meant that since so many of us this day have been in need of good vibes, it seemed better for me, personally, to issue a general Good Vibe, rather than risk missing someone individually.

I hope we will all continue to offer good vibes to each of our fellow members when they are in need.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 04:32:41 PM
Feel better DR Jane. And TCB I hope your back gets better soon.

I would like to say that people who have snowblowers and sneak onto your driveway to help remove the snow deserve many good vibes (like my neighbor did today) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thank you.  And is that ever true!  My last winter living in Massachusetts we had record breaking snow falls and Keith had already moved to Pennsylvania.  For several of those storms I just went outside & pretended to shovel until one of the neighbors came to my rescue with their snow blower.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 04:36:26 PM
Gee, Mr. Charlie Toft left without answering, just as he has done several times before when queried by dear readers.  Given our sometimes interesting past I'm simply going to ask once more and if there is no response then Mr. Toft can happily read the site but not post.  I'm sorry, but that's the way it is here and everyone here will be happy to back me up as far as the problems we've had in the past.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 04:43:12 PM

Dear Reader Evil Twin (aka Janet Fanale) lost her dear mother on Saturday - - I was only given the news this afternoon, so she really needs good vibes and consolation.


Please extend my deepest sympathies.   :( Thank you.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 04:48:07 PM
jane expressed some doubt that I was, as you said, in the middle in that pic... YES, that's me.

Penny with blond hair.  I need to see a close up.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 04:56:46 PM
Thanks Lulu.  This morning I watched the 1950 film, also with Stanwyck & Gable, “To Please a Lady”.  It was fun to follow that with the 1931 “Night Nurse”.  I was never in awe of Clark Gable’s looks and was surprised to find he really was very handsome in 1931.  What were they slathering on the newborns?  The surgery scene was great too.  Thank goodness medicine isn’t like that anymore. :)

Thank you Jay though trying to read the words as they scrolled across the page didn’t help my eyes. LOL

Stay well Ann.

Thank you JoseSPiano

Good luck Sarah.

Panni, Dan-in-Toronto did a lovely job of conjuring up my images of a Thanksgiving store window
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2004, 05:00:15 PM
OH - DR Jay - As far as a proposal... I guess that would be good to have before going to Massachusetts! ;)
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2004, 05:07:50 PM
JRand53,  You forgot the other half of that Mansfield photo.  Sophia Loren's reaction is priceless.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 05:11:41 PM
True - and once I saw who was cropped out of the other side of the photo:  Mr Clifton Webb - his expression is priceless as well!

His Comment:

"Please, Miss Mansfield, we're wine drinkers at this table!"  ;D
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: George on February 04, 2004, 05:18:21 PM
And one last bitch about concert venue's, such as Key Arena, before moving on to other topics.  At the price you pay to see a concert like Miss M's (about $100.00 for middle-range tickets in Seattle), I think a concertgoer deserves a theater-type seat to sit on for three hours, rather than a badly-padded folding chair.  That is a travesty!  Today I feel like three hours in those awful seats have almost single-handedly reversed the work of two noted surgeons and two back operations.  I can't remember when I have been is this much pain with my back.

I have tickets to see Sarah Brightman on Feb. 29th at the Key Arena.  I saw Celine Dion there with my niece and we were three rows from the very back of the building.  I'm glad that they have the giant monitor screens to get the close-up shots as well as being able to watch the performers live.  But since I didn't have to pay for the tickets (I just had to take my niece--and I didn't have to pay for the tickets for Sarah, either), I'm not going to be too picky about the seats.

TCB, I have several friends who've had (and still have) back problems as well, so I can sympathize with your seat/back issues. :'(
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 05:20:21 PM
Sophia is NOT amused.  :P
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 04, 2004, 05:28:08 PM
Panni,

I was told by a maven that the squash for your display should be the turban variety. He also suggested scattered cranberries, strung-up onions, and, not knowing our TCB, said something about hung pheasants.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 05:36:48 PM
Where is DR Jason?
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 04, 2004, 05:40:47 PM
Possibly still chasing a mouse around the house. Maybe Craig knows. He too is missing.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Emily on February 04, 2004, 05:48:34 PM
Possibly still chasing a mouse around the house. Maybe Craig knows. He too is missing.

they are out having a party with Maya and LC...
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Danise on February 04, 2004, 05:53:37 PM
Evening all!

I would also like to express my deepest sympathies to Janet and her family.  

Best health vibes to Jane.

DR JoseSPiano, Glad to hear about your car!  Sorry to hear about your bad haircut and glad that you were able to make it come out ok.  So Diet Buddy, have you started yours yet?  Day 3 and I’m proud to say I have lost 6 pounds!  And I’m still NOT hungry.

Good vibes, Jrand!

Sorry but I don’t know to much about pre-code films.

Lulu, I had to laugh about your (starring Ricardo “Yes, these are my real pecs” Montalban).  First I think he’s GREAT.  Second, while at a Star Trek Convention, I remember them saying the most asked question wasn’t about the special effects in Wrath of Khan but if he had a stand in or were they his real pecs.  They were.





 
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: CharlieToft on February 04, 2004, 05:55:35 PM
I was just at dinner.  

And someone mentioned in todays chats was sitting a few seats away from me.

It was very difficult to eat and not to stare.

And I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Tomovoz on February 04, 2004, 05:59:35 PM
Flow on effect: DRs may know I am of course an honoury citizen of the North West. My home town (Melbourne) has seen fit to appoint as its director of the Melbourne International Arts Festival 2005, Portland Oregon's Kristy Edmunds. A front page story here today as she is the first non Australian to have the job since 1986.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Panni on February 04, 2004, 06:00:22 PM
Condolences to Janet and her family.

Thank you everyone for all the terrific Thanksgiving window ideas.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2004, 06:10:41 PM
Der Brucer and I took a break from housecleaning and had a yummilicious dinner.

We went to a place in downtown Rehoboth called Celcius.  They have an early-bird special, buy two appetizers (or two desserts) and an entree, and pay cash, and the second entree is free!  Not a bad deal.  He had escargot, followed by a crispy half duck, and I had a wild mushroom pasta followed by seared ahi on wasabi mashed potatoes.

This also gave us a good chance to go over the floorplan again and try to figure out where what pieces of furniture will be going.  This house is going to seem a lot different with real furniture!

And bookcases!  Every place we can, wall-to-wall bookcases!  I love bookcases!

And when my kitchen table gets in, the house will feel like it's really our home!

 :D
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2004, 06:13:03 PM
DR Charlie Toft,  so WHO were you sitting next to at dinner is my only question?
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2004, 06:14:50 PM
Sixth Page Dance!

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Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2004, 06:20:26 PM
And I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.
Well, where are you from, and how did you get to where you are now?

You've probably noticed, we're an eclectic group here, so don't be shy!  We like people who stand out in a crowd!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2004, 06:32:32 PM
DR Danise (a.k.a. Diet Buddy) - My "diet" will start once I'm back from Memphis - which will be next Tuesday.  -Although with my schedule in Memphis, I'll probably be starting this Saturday since I start at 8:00AM, and don't finish until 11:00PM - Oh, but I do get a lunch and a dinner break, so don't think I'll be starving.  -And that's my schedule for Saturday, Sunday and Monday... So...  less snacking time.  *But there's always the hote bar after the auditions are done... ;-)  However, I get in mid-day on Friday, and my lunch will be at The Cupboard (a great old-fashioned "meat and three"), and dinner will be at a BBQ place TBA - or TBD if you prefer.

OK - I hope that jumble made sense...

NEXT!
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2004, 06:41:27 PM
Who could it be?  I am on pins and needles!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Michael on February 04, 2004, 06:44:28 PM
My deepest sympathies to Janet and her family.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Robin on February 04, 2004, 06:46:28 PM
And bookcases!  Every place we can, wall-to-wall bookcases!  I love bookcases!

There's nothing quite so homey as bookcases.  Filled with books.  Books, books everywhere....!

And if you're looking for bookends, you obviously don't have enough books!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Michael on February 04, 2004, 06:46:49 PM
I've been on a quest for BK the last several weeks and in doing so I came across this amusing posting he made a year ago or so and it made me laugh. So I thought I'd share it again with all you wonderful people.

My Barry (Malinow) spoof, entitled Barry in Concert. I played Barry (in white tie and tails, big shoes, and big hair), singing his greatest hits, including this one:

His name was Marvin,
He was a show girl
Yes, he wore panties and wore hose
Couldn’t get enough of those
And he was cute as hell
And that is why I fell
At the Ramrod
Down there on Highland
It was an island full of sleaze
Everybody on their knees.
At the Ramrod,
Down there on Highland
Tight jeans and tight buns
You might find the right buns
At the Ramrod!
You get it all…
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Robin on February 04, 2004, 06:50:24 PM
My deep sympathies to Ms. Fanale and her family at this time of loss.  
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 07:10:27 PM
There's nothing quite so homey as bookcases.  Filled with books.  Books, books everywhere....!

And if you're looking for bookends, you obviously don't have enough books!

So true.  I do have one set of bookends, my bronzed baby shoes.  
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2004, 07:20:57 PM
I have floor-to-ceiling bookcases and two rolling library ladders...and six thousand books.  I also have many nice sets of book ends but they are never properly displayed because they're buried on bookcase shelves.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 07:23:58 PM
Thanks TCB & Danise.

I’m tired so will sign off early tonight.  Have a nice evening, and good night.

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Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2004, 07:24:24 PM
Best wishes to DR Janet and her family.

Good luck to Swishy on the results of her audition.

DR Jane: re: the neighbor coming with his snowblower

He actually did it when nobody was looking!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: PennyO on February 04, 2004, 07:25:02 PM
Penny with blond hair.  I need to see a close up.

Actually, it was a gorgeous red wig!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: PennyO on February 04, 2004, 07:25:57 PM
Niteynite, Jane.
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Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 07:27:33 PM
One last thing, Charles Pogue I want to see your library.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2004, 07:28:38 PM
Nite Penny.  I just sent you email.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: CharlieToft on February 04, 2004, 07:35:54 PM
"Well, where are you from, and how did you get to where you are now?"

First question: New York City.

Second question: Through a lot of hard work and sleeping with the right people.
You can't get there by doing the latter without a good bit of the former. And no matter how hard you work there will always be co-workers who think you got to where you are by shtupping the right people. Try not to dissapoint them.

"You've probably noticed, we're an eclectic group here, so don't be shy!  We like people who stand out in a crowd!"

Thank you, but I think I stand out very nicely.

Don't worry, kids. I don't bite. Neither does Percy.

Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2004, 07:36:59 PM
And yes, where is DR Maya?
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 07:39:53 PM
Yes, and where IS DR Maya, Laura II, LC - the list goes on and on.  But, oh, we shall laugh and laugh.

And Charlie Toft: How did you find us, and someone asked who the photo is.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 04, 2004, 08:05:16 PM
Fireplace - Kindling and firewood? Newspapers and firewood?  Kindling, newspapers and firewood?  Duraflame?  Duraflame and firewood?  Or a gas fireplace?

Well, if you watched the Superbowl ads you'd know the very best way:

Place a votive candle atop the logs.
Light said candle.
Back the BUD LITE horse up to the fire.
DUCK!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: CharlieToft on February 04, 2004, 08:11:27 PM
How did I find you? Through SilverDaddies.com, if you really MUST know.

And the photo? It's my Bar Mitzvah picture, silly!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 04, 2004, 08:18:30 PM
How did I find you? Through SilverDaddies.com, if you really MUST know.

And the photo? It's my Bar Mitzvah picture, silly!

Oy! Do not check out Silver Daddies.com. This enquiring mind (okay: this yenta) should've known better. Friends, don't do it.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2004, 08:21:20 PM
Very relieved my American Idol favorite Matt (the bearish football player from the Rose Bowl) made it through to the next round of judging. Was sorry the fellow they thought looked older than he was got eliminated. He seemed really talented.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: CharlieToft on February 04, 2004, 08:27:05 PM
I should think that even the most innocent, cornfed ngenue might know EXACTLY what SilverDaddies.com is a site for, Dan.  

All kidding aside, Someone I met there told me about this site. Sorry if this offends. But, you asked.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Tomovoz on February 04, 2004, 08:35:05 PM
I don't think the site is in any way offensive. Of course I was going to check!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: TCB on February 04, 2004, 08:39:04 PM
Panni,

I was told by a maven that the squash for your display should be the turban variety. He also suggested scattered cranberries, strung-up onions, and, not knowing our TCB, said something about hung pheasants.

Why, Dan, I am shocked that you would think I would make something out of that!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: SwishySarah on February 04, 2004, 08:43:22 PM
I am in love with my avatar pic, by far the best picture ever taken of me :).

Just want to see how HUGE it is on the board screen...
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: SwishySarah on February 04, 2004, 08:43:46 PM
Wow...thats a really big eye.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 08:51:01 PM
That IS a big eye.

My goodness, we MUST be becoming the most popular site on all the Internet if we are being mentioned at such sites.  I would advise that our young readers or more sensitive readers might not want to visit, but that is just a parental advisement.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: SwishySarah on February 04, 2004, 08:53:36 PM
Just a test post....
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: SwishySarah on February 04, 2004, 08:58:51 PM
I look like I have a black eye...weird!

So you finally have a picture of me...well...part of me, anyway :)!

Oh, how I wish I had brown eyes...
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: td on February 04, 2004, 09:01:04 PM
That IS a big eye.

My goodness, we MUST be becoming the most popular site on all the Internet if we are being mentioned at such sites.  I would advise that our young readers or more sensitive readers might not want to visit, but that is just a parental advisement.

AND I HELPED (with the big eye, that is).

I, of course, would never allow my mouse to click onto such a site as that one!  (But did you see the guy on page _   _  _  YUMMILISCIOUS!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Tomovoz on February 04, 2004, 09:08:38 PM
So whose mouse did you use td?
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: td on February 04, 2004, 09:10:25 PM
So whose mouse did you use td?

Now, Tommy-boy, you know I NEVER kiss and tell.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Noel on February 04, 2004, 09:16:01 PM
In no professional audition* is anyone asked to sing a capella.  My advice to anyone being asked to do this is: run! - you're not dealing with an upstanding company.

The ability to sing a capella is a specialized skill.  There are many people who sing wonderfully who can't sing without accompaniment at all.  There are also some who have the ability to sing a capella but can't sing with accompaniment.

Since the part being cast will always be singing with accompaniment, and a capella audition shows nothing.

* There's an exception.  Sometimes, a straight play will require a small amount of a capella singing, and you might find a reputable director asking for this in an audition.

The musical Rent had people lining up around blocks out doors to "audition" a capella in front of underlings, assistants-to-assistants to casting people.  As far as I know, nobody ever got cast this way.  This wasn't a reputable audition, but something else entirely: It was a publicity stunt.

So, contestants on the "reality" game show American Idol were asked to sing a capella?  Well, this proves that the show is completely about embarrassing normal people who have dreams of stardom.  In the real world, singers aren't asked to sing a capella.  In the wholly unreal realm of "reality" TV - however... Well, this is a genre that trades on humiliation.

And I mean no criticism of those who enjoy the show.   To each his own.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Tomovoz on February 04, 2004, 09:18:35 PM
Now, Tommy-boy, you know I NEVER kiss and tell.
Do you tell all if you have refrained from kissing?
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2004, 09:28:44 PM
Wow...thats a really big eye.
The Better to See You With, My Dear!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2004, 09:39:51 PM
DR Noel - Actually, I have two very dear friends who got cast in Rent from singing a capella during the initial phase.  -Of course, there were about six or seven stages after that, and they were all accompanied.  It wasn't a publicity stunt at all.  They made a very concerted effort to find unknowns early on... and they also knew that most of the "unknowns" would not have a "book" to bring into an audition pianist.  And even now, they still stress no "traditional Broadway music"...  Of course, now, they hardly ever have an open call anymore... And since it's AEA members auditioning, I'm not sure if they are truly "unknown" any longer. ;-)
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2004, 09:41:18 PM
I should think that even the most innocent, cornfed ngenue might know EXACTLY what SilverDaddies.com is a site for, Dan.  

All kidding aside, Someone I met there told me about this site. Sorry if this offends. But, you asked.
I think it's wonderful that there is a site for needy older gentlemen who, having been generous in their younger years, are now impoverished to the point that they cannot afford accoutriments!  Particularly in this harsh winter, when their lack of...


Huh?   :o   Der Brucer is telling me this is simply a bunch of old gents just showing off.  Will wonders never cease!   ::)
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Tomovoz on February 04, 2004, 09:50:38 PM
I notice that td is back. He must have his mouse back under control.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Tomovoz on February 04, 2004, 09:53:07 PM
And I think Mr Barlalot is with us too. You have been missed Mark. Hope your New Year is going well. So what song is going to win the Oscar - at least now the field has been narrowed.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2004, 10:01:12 PM
Jane, if I knew how to post pictures here, I could show you the library.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: Panni on February 04, 2004, 10:08:41 PM
I'm signing off - eyes tired. 'Night, all
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: bk on February 04, 2004, 10:18:07 PM
Pogue, if you call me I'll tell you how to post pix.  It's REALLY simple.
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2004, 10:37:06 PM
And I'm afraid I must say, "Goodnight" now too...

See you in the morning!
Title: Re:THE FLICKERING FLAMES
Post by: George on February 04, 2004, 11:32:08 PM
Before I left work tonight, a friend called me asking if I wanted to see a local production of Songs for a New World.  I actually have a ticket to see it next week, but I love the CD.  Anyway, she had a ticket and her daughter (her 7 year old daughter) didn't want to go.  I actually sat in a seat and wasn't ushering!  Isn't that exciting?  Isn't that too too?

Anyway, I had seen these performers in other shows and knew that they would all be very good...and they were.  Wow, can they sing!  The only negative was that the sound was up too loud.  It must be an Olympia thing.  But I didn't know that the original cast CD had practically the whole show on it.  That's cool.

The theater group is getting ready to decide what to do next season.  I suggested either Brownstone or The Spitfire Grill, mainly because the CDs are new to me and I've been listening to them a lot...and they're both small shows.  The theater holds only about 120 people.  No one that I talked to knew either show.  Soon they will. ;)  I saw a production of The Spitfire Grill in Seattle last year and it was a wonderful show.

That was my night.  Now I must go to bed.  Goodnight all!