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Title: THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 12:03:48 AM
Well, you've read all the paragraphs and therefore you are in the know, with it, happening and therefore let us all post until the cows come home, shall we?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: George on February 11, 2004, 12:28:18 AM
Yesterday (about 2 hours ago), I wrote, in part:

I have a question...an early Ask BK & DR Question Day because tomorrow morning I'm driving a friend to the airport and won't come back until after I've done some window shopping at South Center in Renton in Seattle.

Jed wrote:
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George - I had no idea that Renton was now in Seattle.  How informative these posts are! :D

Then TCB wrote:
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Jed, be nice.  George knows best.  George works in a liberry.

Let me respond:

Jed, oops (that's spoo spelled backwards)! ::)  I forgot "and then" before the last "in."

TCB, the ONLY correct misspelling of "library" is "libary."  "Liberry," although phonetically correct, is incorrect in its attempt at humorous incorrectness.  ;D

And just so that I officially ask my question on Ask BK (& Dear Reader) Day, here it is again, since I'm going to be out of town (I rephrased it a bit to make more sense):
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What's the best way to store champagne?  Tonight I bought a bottle of Dom Perignon Vintage 1995 (from Costco...I figure I couldn't get it any cheaper anywhere) for my parents' 40th wedding anniversary, which will be in June.  Should it be refrigerated, just kept cool or at room temperature?  What about when it's served (in June)?  Any information or website links will be most appreciated.

And most importantly, will it last until June??

And Bruce, as global administrator, can you tell how many times a message has been previewed or modified...or just that someone is in the process?  I live to preview and modify. ;D
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 04:05:05 AM
I should think that storing the champagne in a cool place should be fine.  Preferably on it's side, the same as any wine, so that the cork stays wet.  A day or two before the celebration, pop it in the refrigerator to chill.  Do not allow the bubbly to freeze, as that will distroy the bubbles.

If it is your parent's 40th anniversary, why are you buying champagne that is "cheap"?  This is one of the occasions that deserves quality, and that means spending money.  (Cheap champagne is for celebrations where you're pouring for people who you don't really know and probably won't know the difference, like for a New Years Eve party at a bar.)  I would suggest checking out a reputable wine merchant, explaining the situation, and setting a limit on how much you want to spend.  He (or she) should be able to help you find the best buy.

I'll see what I can find in the way of websites.  There's correct ways to open a bottle, finding the right glasses (Bugs Bunny jelly glasses are not right for the occasion), lots of other things worth learning about on the subject.  But I will spout some heresy here, because the most important thing is that your parents enjoy the champagne.  Snobbery be damned.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 04:19:54 AM
I think DR George meant that he bought his expensive wine at a bargain price, DR SWW, not that he bought cheap champagne.  I don't know from what about Champagne....but a 1995 Dom Perignon probably wasn't cheap!

My question in my second paragraph with no reference to my first paragraph or the parties thereto herewith to wit is as follows:

Mr BK - if you could have created as a performer a role in a classic Broadway musical (without the constraints of time, age, sex, etc) which role would it be, and why?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jennifer on February 11, 2004, 04:20:40 AM
This post is about last night's AMERICAN IDOL:

DR Jose wrote:
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Oh, I guess AI is tape-delayed for the West Coast - so how long do the phone lines really stay open then?

I believe they stay up for 2 hours after the show airs in each time zone. But sometimes they can keep them open a bit longer.

DR also wrote:
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And since is the first time I've watched the prelims - For the Wild Card round, can/do/have they brought back people from the screening rounds?  -Ones who didn't make it to the 117 or whatever number is was?  -If so, maybe the producers are saving some of those "favorites" for that round.

Well the first year I believe they only took people from the final 32. But last season they brought back a few that were from different rounds. One from the final 100+ and even one girl (I think it was carmen) who hadn't even gotten very far.

It's interesting because they chose FOUR from the wild card show. But I think they have more than eight people. They can bring back 10 or more.  I think it's great because they can really choose any people who didn't get by with the public's vote. And they can also see who the audience has responded to from the audition shows.


Yes DR Matt: Clay was in the same grouping as both Ruben and Kimberley Locke.

And I totally hope that Scooter girl returns. She is my favorite one!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 04:50:19 AM
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find myself wrong about the cost of champagne.  Der Brucer is the one who really knows that stuff, not I, and he's doing a repeat grandladsit today and so is not available.  (My researching websites will clearly be for my own education, as well!)

But George's question has brought to mind something that hasn't been discussed here before.

Dear BK and esteemed DRs: What are your favorite drinking songs?

"The Night They Invented Champagne," from Gigi, has been ringing through my head for over an hour.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 05:30:58 AM
I like that song DRSWW...but there is of course the ever popular 99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall.

Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Michael on February 11, 2004, 05:36:02 AM
Quick note from work. My internet access is down until Saturday. So I won't be around until then. If I have a free moment I will try to catch up on events.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: PennyO on February 11, 2004, 05:59:53 AM

But George's question has brought to mind something that hasn't been discussed here before.

Dear BK and esteemed DRs: What are your favorite drinking songs?

"The Night They Invented Champagne," from Gigi, has been ringing through my head for over an hour.

I must confess to being something of an operetta nerd. I love the Tipsy Waltz, from Offenbach's La Perichole; and Drink, Drink, Drink from The Studdent Prince; and Fin ch'an del vino, from Mozart's Don Giovanni (when it's not sung too fast, which, for some reason, most basses like to do - G&S patter song syndrome...).
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 06:01:35 AM
Apropos of DRPennyO's selection - I particularly like the "Drinking Song" from  The Pleasant Peasant by Lucy Friml and Ethel Romberg!

In fact I like ALL those songs!  ;D
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: PennyO on February 11, 2004, 06:05:31 AM
Oh, and before I forget AGAIN:

The York Theatre holds a Musicals in Mufti series each season. These presentations are staged readings with suggested production values (think Encores! on a budget), and the specialty is forgotten, neglected and cult musicals at the company's home The Theatre at Saint Peter's in Citigroup Center, 619 Lexington Avenue, at 54th Street.

Wouldn't we all love to see The First Nudie Musical become a dark horse hit, and take its place beside Mel B's movie-turned-Broadway-show? Seems to me with BK's DVD of the movie coming out, and all, this might be something The York'd want to do for next year's Mufti series. Those pieces are modestly staged, but with real honest-ta-gosh B'way talent, and good music directors, and lights and everything... Bruce m'dear, I would certainly talk to them about it.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: PennyO on February 11, 2004, 06:10:46 AM
Apropos of DRPennyO's selection - I particularly like the "Drinking Song" from  The Pleasant Peasant by Lucy Friml and Ethel Romberg!


Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!!!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: PennyO on February 11, 2004, 06:11:00 AM
Apropos of DRPennyO's selection - I particularly like the "Drinking Song" from  The Pleasant Peasant by Lucy Friml and Ethel Romberg!


Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!!!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jennifer on February 11, 2004, 06:20:12 AM
Question about Juliana's journal. Why are we so behind again?  We're like 2 months behind. I love the journal (there is a new entry up). But I find I enjoy it more when we are current.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: William E. Lurie on February 11, 2004, 06:24:59 AM
Penny - I've been posting about Mufti ever since BK has had this site.  The next season starts in mid-March with BEST FOOT FORWARD, FANNY and WEIRD ROMANCE.  They may not have an orchestra like Encores!, but they do the complete book, unlike Encores! which usually cuts the book to shreads, and they do it in half the rehearsal time.

Was I the only person who could not get into the message boards about 4:45 Eastern yesterday afternoon?  I got the notes, but when I clicked to get to the boards I got a message that said there were too many users.  I thought this wasn't supposed to happen on the new, upgraded board.

For Ask BK Day --- I'm thrilled you liked TRIPLETS as much as I did.  What do you think it's chances are to beat NEMO for the Animation Oscar®?  It got fantastic reviews, but NEMO was a lot more successful.  In any other year, NEMO would win hands down, but do you think the voters will go for artistic quality of higher grosses?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 06:27:40 AM
DR WEL - "The Greatest Show on Earth" beat "Singin' In the Rain" - what do you think?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Matt H. on February 11, 2004, 06:48:28 AM
After SPIRITED AWAY beat out the more popular and highly touted ICE AGE and LILO & STITCH last year, I'd say anything is possible, WEL.

Amazing, though, that Pixar has never won this award. True, it hasn't been in existence long, but you'd think one of their films would have won it. Pixar has won the Best Animated Short Oscar before.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Matt H. on February 11, 2004, 06:50:12 AM
Since we're talking animation, here are my questions for Ask BK Day:

1. What is your favorite pre-1960 Disney animated film?

2. What is your favorite post-1960 Disney animated film?

3. What is your favorite song from a Disney animated film?

4. Which do you think is the best animated film of all-time?
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Post by: MBarnum on February 11, 2004, 07:12:29 AM
Best pre-1960 Disney animated: BAMBI

Best post-1960 Disney animated: Finding Nemo

Favorite Disney animated song: April Showers from Bambi

Best animated: Hmmm...maybe Finding Nemo.

Back later with my BK question of the day.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 07:13:44 AM
First Ask BK question: What in tarnation am I doing up so early?  I have no idea.  But, welcome, early-morning denizens.

I think Nemo will squeak by because I think Pixar is beloved in a way that Disney and Fox weren't for Ice Age and Lilo and Stitch.  But, anything IS possible.  Unless they got Belleville to voting members I don't think it has any chance.  If they DID get DVDs or cassettes, then maybe, although unlike Spirited Away, this might be just a bit to outre for the Academy voter.

I do not know how to store champagne.

Juliana has sent a few more entries and we'll get them up as we can.  Craig is very busy and so is Juliana.  So, the trick is, pay no attention to the dates and just enjoy.

Drinking song: Does The Ladies Who Lunch count?  That would be my favorite.

Nudie at the York.  It wouldn't qualify as a Mufti, but they certainly might do it at one of their "new musical" readings.  Certainly for a reading that would be fine so perhaps I'll call Jim Morgan.

Pre 60s animated film: Preface by saying these were not my favorite films growing up - and I presume you mean full-lenth.  So, maybe Peter Pan in terms of the entertainment value I got out of it as a kid.  For artistic merit - Snow White.

Post 60s: Difficult.  I'm very fond of Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid, but they don't have huge repeatability for me because of the plot devices which become tiresome on repeated viewings.  But they're both beautifully done.  

Favorite song from a Disney film - Belle.  It's just a wonderful opener with a great tune.  And Part of Your World is nice, too.  Of the classic period films, I'd say The Second Star to the Right and When You Wish Upon a Star.

Best of all time: Heavens.  One has to take into account so many things, but Snow White, because without it who knows where animation would have gone.

Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jennifer on February 11, 2004, 07:16:51 AM
I would be shocked if Finding Nemo lost. It wasn't just popular but it was widely acclaimed. Even by just reading what BK said about the two animated films, I'd say he raved much more about Nemo.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jay on February 11, 2004, 07:24:11 AM
Favorite drinking song:  the "Brindisi" from Verdi's La Traviata.

I should note that I am very happy to have a soulmate now on this site (at least as far as musical tastes are concerned) in Dear Reader PennyO.  This despite the fact that she repeats herself.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 07:30:33 AM
People who repeat themselves are excellent.  People who repeat themselves are excellent, too.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: MBarnum on February 11, 2004, 07:36:36 AM
Uh, oh. Finding Nemo isn't a Disney film is it. Well, I had better change my favorites list above then.

Hmmm...post 1960s Disney favorite...the only one that I have seen is that Robin Hood one in the 1970s. So unless THE BRAVE LITTLE TOASTER was a Disney film I guess Robin Hood would have to be my pick.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: MBarnum on February 11, 2004, 07:38:42 AM
My BK/DR question of the day:

What are your favorite 1950s B Sci/fi or horror films.

Who are your favorite 1950s B actors and actresses.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: MBarnum on February 11, 2004, 07:40:42 AM
I am making another post post haste because I just noticed that my last post was number 666...and it spooked me!
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 07:41:19 AM
Penny - I've been posting about Mufti ever since BK has had this site.  The next season starts in mid-March with BEST FOOT FORWARD, FANNY and WEIRD ROMANCE...

Weird Romance is a favorite of mine, even though I've never seen it.  Great songs, great scripts (given that it is two one-act plays).  I really wish der Brucer hadn't loaned our CD to the director of a theater we were associated with, because said director never returned it.  She tended to book seasons at the theater according to reputation, not according to the quality of the work, sound unheard.  Which explains why she booked Bed and Sofa, which has won awards from people who don't know better.  Making this more salt in the wound is that the CD of Weird Romance is now out of print.  Bleh.

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For Ask BK Day --- I'm thrilled you liked TRIPLETS as much as I did.  What do you think it's chances are to beat NEMO for the Animation Oscar®?  It got fantastic reviews, but NEMO was a lot more successful.  In any other year, NEMO would win hands down, but do you think the voters will go for artistic quality of higher grosses?
I don't think the grosses are the key factor here.  I do, however, think the opinion of animators has some weight, and the Annies, held at the Alex Theater in Glendale, this year gave their top award to Finding Nemo, just as last year they gave the nod to Spirited Away.  It's too soon to tell, of course, whether the Annies are the clear signal on the Best Animation Oscar, since that award hasn't been around for very long, but my guess is that it's Pixar's year this time.
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Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 07:55:53 AM
Favorite b-sci fi from the 50s: Queen of Outer Space, Target Earth, The Incredible Shrinking Man, Invasion of the Body Snatchers (the latter two aren't Bs, but they ARE low budget), Horrors of the Black Museum, and hundreds of others.  Favorite cheesefests: Plan Nine from Outer Space, Beginning of the End, The Amazing Colossal Man, War of the Colossal Beast, Attack of the 50 Foot Woman, It Conquered the World and hundreds of others.

I like Grant Williams, Allison Hayes, Dudley Manlove, Morris Ankrum, and many others.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Matt H. on February 11, 2004, 07:57:55 AM
I posted a message at BK and Nick's DVD PLACE about this, but I want to bring it up here for those of us who do buy DVDs.

It was announced at the first of the week that Fox will be releasing MASTER & COMMANDER on a 2 disc DVD set priced at $39.95. I think this may be the first mainstream DVD sell through release at this inflated price point. (Criterion sells their discs for more, but they're specialized and of limited print runs.) Fox is selling a single disc pan and scan version of the film for $29.95.

During the laserdisc era, Fox was notorious about overcharging for their wares: $50 for a single disc release and $70 for movies that spread to two discs. Are they starting this same stuff up again on DVD? Just wondering what others thought about this.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 07:59:58 AM
1. What is your favorite pre-1960 Disney animated film?

I wish I could say Fantasia, but that film is really a series of shorts, with no single vision throughout.  (This is also why I have to disqualify Fantasia 2000 from consideration on the second question, much as I admire some of it's sections.)

When the word "favorite" is used, my pick is Sleeping Beauty.  Visually, it is one of the most intriguing, and I love the music.

2. What is your favorite post-1960 Disney animated film?

Beauty and the Beast.  There is only one point in the telling of the tale that I think they faltered, the moment when Gaston reacts to Belle's rejection and decides he has to have revenge on the Beast.  An extra beat or two would showing his hurt, and then his decision for revenge, would have made the film perfect.

3. What is your favorite song from a Disney animated film?

The best animated song in the canon is "Circle of Life," one of the best opening numbers ever presented.  But my favorite song is "You'll Be In My Heart," from Tarzan, one of the best love songs written in years.  Collins deserved to win that Oscar.

4. Which do you think is the best animated film of all-time?

Ah, a different qualifying word, "best."  (You have no idea how much I want to write South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut.   ;D)  Here, I'm going to have to say The Lion King.  It is a fully realized film, admirable in almost every way.  It's just not my favorite.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 08:02:25 AM
I posted a message at BK and Nick's DVD PLACE about this, but I want to bring it up here for those of us who do buy DVDs.

It was announced at the first of the week that Fox will be releasing MASTER & COMMANDER on a 2 disc DVD set priced at $39.95. I think this may be the first mainstream DVD sell through release at this inflated price point. (Criterion sells their discs for more, but they're specialized and of limited print runs.) Fox is selling a single disc pan and scan version of the film for $29.95.

During the laserdisc era, Fox was notorious about overcharging for their wares: $50 for a single disc release and $70 for movies that spread to two discs. Are they starting this same stuff up again on DVD? Just wondering what others thought about this.
I think I'll wait until it's offered in a bargain bin.  And then I'll let der Brucer pay for it.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 08:06:21 AM
Fine choices there, MR BK!

Have you seen Grant Williams as Tchaikovsky on the Sleeping Beauty DVD extra?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 08:07:41 AM
Uh, oh. Finding Nemo isn't a Disney film is it. Well, I had better change my favorites list above then.

Hmmm...post 1960s Disney favorite...the only one that I have seen is that Robin Hood one in the 1970s. So unless THE BRAVE LITTLE TOASTER was a Disney film I guess Robin Hood would have to be my pick.
The Brave Little Toaster and it's sequels were produced by Hyperion Films, but released on video by Disney.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 11, 2004, 08:09:48 AM
The Brave Little Toaster and it's sequels were produced by Hyperion Films, but released on video by Disney.

Then if it counts as a Disney film I will choose THE BRAVE LITTLE TOASTER as my favorite post 1960s Disney film.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Kerry on February 11, 2004, 08:16:12 AM
I like that song DRSWW...but there is of course the ever popular 99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall.




OY!!!!!!!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: MBarnum on February 11, 2004, 08:17:39 AM
DRs Kerry and TomovOz....watch the mail! You have stuff a comin'
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Post by: JMK on February 11, 2004, 08:20:47 AM
I am miffed, DRs, really miffed.  Do you know that the all-knowing all-seeing horoscope in today's Oregonian had the unmitigated gall to tell me:  "Don't let obsessive behaviors get the upper hand!"  As if I were obsessed about anything!  Can you imagine??  (Speaking of horoscopes, has anyone else noticed how the press syndicate horoscopes, notably Sydney Omarr, have a grand total of perhaps 8 phrases that they parse among the signs?).

And, as a suitably neat segue, my Ask BK question is:  What's your favorite Mimsy Farmer film?

Since BK has annexed Mimsy and JR and I have dibs on some other person, obsessions about Farmers are now limited to Frank (FF's nephew with quite a string of credits of his own--includling lifting Liz Taylor up on the bar in "Butterfield 6" or "8" or whatever the heck it's called) and the Farmer in the Dell, with, perhaps tangentially, Ma and Pa Kettle (they were farmers, weren't they?).
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Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 08:21:01 AM
Haven't watched the Sleeping Beauty extras yet.  Who has time for all these extras, which is the point of a Nick column over at http://dvds.allaccessworld.com - The DVD Place.  And there's all sorts of new topics on the message board if you want to have some fun.  And if you haven't, tell all your film-loving friends about The DVD Place - we want to make that as fun a film-specific community as this.
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Post by: JMK on February 11, 2004, 08:21:42 AM
Also speaking of Second Star on the Right, there's some interesting history of that tune on the new 2 DVD Alice in Wonderland (it was originally written for that film).
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Post by: TCB on February 11, 2004, 08:44:02 AM
Apropos of DRPennyO's selection - I particularly like the "Drinking Song" from  The Pleasant Peasant by Lucy Friml and Ethel Romberg!

In fact I like ALL those songs!  ;D

Ethel Romberg?  Wasn't she executed in the 50s for being a spy?

George -- Liberry was spelled wrong?
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 08:47:05 AM
No TCB that was Ethel Roszensweig who used to have that talk show, too...remember?
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 08:50:42 AM
Speaking of Ms Allison Hayes - since Mr BK was - who died in 1977 and left her estate to her mother, who died 8 months later - I checked the link that DR JANE gave us a couple of weeks ago.

Mother Charlotte is due $110.00 from a matured Conseco Life Insurance Policy.

Allison herself has $118.50 from Bullock's, she obviously returned a frock and took a credit, $239.93 from the Auto Club of Southern California, $38.78 from Bank of America, $25.34 from Great Western Savings, AND a whopping $5280.93 from a matured Prudential Life Insurance Policy.  All money that will soon belong to Governor Arnold.
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Post by: Ben on February 11, 2004, 08:55:46 AM
For those fans of Barbara Cook Playbill On-Line has news bout Flahooley

http://www.playbill.com/news/article/84332.html
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Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 08:56:56 AM
Good morning. The one thing which hasn't been mentioned (or that I haven't noticed) in the posts about the excellently excellent TRIPLETS OF B. is that it is not computer animation. Old-fashioned hand-drawn! I loved it. In fact, after seeing it last night I was dreaming about it all night long - wonderful crazy dreams like Bruno's. (Bruno is a great fat old dog for those of you who haven't yet seenTRIPLETS.)
BTW - Unless you have a fabulous home entertainment set-up like some lucky people who shall remain nameless, you really should see TRIPLETS in a theater.
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Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 08:59:05 AM
No TCB that was Ethel Roszensweig who used to have that talk show, too...remember?

Obviously you've both been drinking. Ethel Mertz was married to Fred on I Love Lucy. And they certainly weren't spies. You've got some 'splainin to do.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 09:01:13 AM
Ah ha! DRPANNI - so you were fooled by their undercover disguises as well!  LOL...they were actually subversives working in the employ of an unnamed world power.  Subtle.....
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Post by: Jennifer on February 11, 2004, 09:03:23 AM
I have a question for all DRs.  I sometimes tape the talk show THE VIEW.  Yesterday they had a guy on talking about germs.  It was so interesting.

I was just wondering how many DRs are obsessed with germs.

I use Purrell A LOT. But some of the things this guy was saying made me think "how can i do that?"

He was talking about things like ATMs and how we should use a pen or our sleeve (or have a little purrell in our bag).
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 09:03:45 AM
James Franciscus has $50 in wages from Warner Bros Entertainment unclaimed.

MATTH did you watch your movie?
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Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 09:08:10 AM
Actually, Belleville is a combination of hand-drawn and CGI animation.
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Post by: TCB on February 11, 2004, 09:11:02 AM
No TCB that was Ethel Roszensweig who used to have that talk show, too...remember?

I think I knew her sister Roszensweig.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 09:13:04 AM
Yea, that's her, a friend of Wendy Wasserstein's and that other girl Heidi Chronicles.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 09:19:26 AM
Ah ha! DRPANNI - so you were fooled by their undercover disguises as well!  LOL...they were actually subversives working in the employ of an unnamed world power.  Subtle.....
Thank you, JRand53. Gives a whole new meaning to so many of the episodes!
My late grandmother - of whom I was not overly fond (a terrible thing to admit, but true) - left Hungary and lived with us for a short time in Toronto. She then decided she was not overly fond of us either and moved to Switzerland. Anyway, the point of this is that she did not speak one word of English, and being close to 80 at the time, was not about to learn. Her favorite TV show was I LOVE LUCY. She would watch it each day and would relate the plot to me when I came home from school. The thing is that the "plot" was the plot as she, not understanding a word, interpreted it. -- Which very often was a hilariously surreal version of what the episode was actually about.  
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 11, 2004, 09:21:02 AM
Jennifer, I cannot see why Scooter Girl would not return, they invested far too much time on her in the prelim episodes not to bring her back.  What I can't understand is why she was dropped in the first place, she delivered each time they asked her and was so heads and shoulders above most of the present finalists.  And she was damned entertaining.  The only thing to worry about is whether her apparent incipient bi-polarness will implode on her...

Two favourite peripheral drinking songs...not drinking songs persay, but drinking and bars is prominently feature in the songs...BALLAD OF THE SAD YOUNG MEN & THE END OF A LOVE AFFAIR...
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Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 09:21:08 AM
Actually, Belleville is a combination of hand-drawn and CGI animation.
I stand corrected. Now I'll sit down.
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Post by: TCB on February 11, 2004, 09:21:55 AM
Speaking of Fred and Ethel Mertz (I wasn't, Panni was), I believe William Frawley and Vivian Vance deserve special lifetime acting awards.  It is amazing that they managed to convince the American public that, deep-down, Fred and Ethel truly loved each other, when, in reality, Bill and Viv actually hated each other and never spoke.

Which brings up a Ask BK question (and Ask DR question):  Have you ever acted with another actor who you were supposed to be very fond of, but who you actually couldn't stand?
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Post by: TCB on February 11, 2004, 09:24:10 AM
Ah ha! DRPANNI - so you were fooled by their undercover disguises as well!  LOL...they were actually subversives working in the employ of an unnamed world power.  Subtle.....

I thought Lucille Ball was a world power.
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Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 09:27:57 AM
The American Idol talent (finalists, that is) this year so far seems far better than previous years. That Phantasia woman was REALLY good - slightly bizarre, but really exciting. Hope she doesn't "fix" her lips.
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Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 09:29:25 AM
Yes, when I first did my show Together Again, my leading lady was someone I just could not abide, even though she was very good in the show.  She was on some diet that made her not pleasant to kiss in the show and she was, at the time, suffused with the Bogwan Rahjneez or whoever he was and it was very annoying.  When we moved the show, I recast her with Penny Peyser and it was much better.  Again, the original gal was good in the show, but man was it hard to play opposite her.  

I forgot to answer what role I would like to have created in a musical.  Certainly it would have been fun to create Finch in How to Succeed, but Mr. Morse was so interesting and weird no one could have done it as well, I don't think.  
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Post by: MBarnum on February 11, 2004, 09:31:45 AM
LOL, JRand53. If only those people were here to collect!

I have lost that link. What was it again?
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Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 09:39:16 AM
Enough of this levity. Back to the mines for moi. Will check in later for fun and games.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 09:39:57 AM
just google unclaimed property and then go to California....Mr Grant Williams left over $9000 in a savings/checking account!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 11, 2004, 09:46:51 AM
Jennifer, I am quasi-obssessed with germs...I think it comes from my father who was always opening public bathrooms with his elbows and telling us kids not to touch anything while there.  I don't really go crazy about it,  but public restrooms I use as little as possible and am as fastidious as possible when I have to use them.  I do get more conscious during cold and flu season and usually carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer with me...try to avoid escalator handrails, bathroom doors, incessant coughers.   I'm also fairly careful on airplanes...and I've start using the sanitary wet wipes that Gelson's provides to wipe off the push-rail of the shopping cart or carrier of the basket.

I heard a biochemist once on a radio show relate how he was on a plane once and, for fun, took out a small germ-detecting kit he had and tested the tray-table.  He found it rife with germs...including traces of fecal matter.

But you really can't obsess about it or you'll go crazy.  I mean both my pets are allowed on any piece of furniture in the house and the dog sleeps with us and the cat visits.

In fact, we may be getting too obsessive as a nation.  All these anti-bacterial soaps are overdoing it, because they are also destroying good bacteria that we need.

And there is an opinion that one of the reasons we see an increase of kids with allergies and other chronic sicknesses is that we are simply protecting them too much...so they do not built up a tolerance and a natural immunization from these things.  So next time, it's okay for your kid to snuggle with the dog or eat a little dirt.  It won't kill him and it may build up his immune system.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 11, 2004, 10:00:42 AM
Ha, ha JRand53, this is fun....

Warner Bros. owes Ken Clark $44.16

Wells Fargo owes Ed Fury $25.00

and Security Pacific National Bank owes Joi Lansing a $314.38.

Can you tell I am bored today! Ha!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 10:04:26 AM
Good afternoon!

Well, I tried to get up early - I even sat up and listened to NPR this morning from 7:30-8:00-ish, but I didn't end up getting out of bed until around 11:15-ish, so...  Ah, well...  I guess I needed the rest after my weekend in Memphis...  In any case, I'll hit the grocery store this afternoon and begin stocking up on "approved" foods... of course, as I mentioned yesterday, I still have a stockpile of "unapproved" foods in my cupboards, but I plan to bake them off and then send them off over the next couple of days.

DR SWW - Cool and dark are the key words when it comes to champagne storage.  Also, a "vibration free" zone is essential - nothing on top of a fridge, next to a washing machine, etc.  Wine Spectator's web-site should have some good info.  And you could also just call a local wine merchant for advice.  Additionally, some places will store champagne for you in their "lockers" for you - even if you didn't buy the champagne from them.  -On a personal note, I'm particularly fond of the various "tiers" of Veuve Cliquot champagnes - even their "cheap" line is quite good... and their Rose Champagne is perfect for Valentine's Day, or any other celebration - or non-celebration.  ;)

As for animated films -

Classic Disney - Cinderella - not sure right now it's if pre- or post- 1960, but that's my favorite for sentimental reasons.

I need to think about the other categories.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on February 11, 2004, 10:15:05 AM
FINDING NEMO was produced by Pixar, but released (both to theatres and home video) by Disney.  Pixar has not renewed their contract with Disney, and after the next two films, they will be releasing them somewhere else.
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Post by: Jennifer on February 11, 2004, 10:35:11 AM
Jennifer, I cannot see why Scooter Girl would not return, they invested far too much time on her in the prelim episodes not to bring her back.  What I can't understand is why she was dropped in the first place, she delivered each time they asked her and was so heads and shoulders above most of the present finalists.  And she was damned entertaining.  The only thing to worry about is whether her apparent incipient bi-polarness will implode on her...

Well, I wouldn't get your hopes about Scooter Girl returning. Although it did make me mad that they got rid of her (when as you say she delivered each time), yet they kept some people who gave horrible auditions/forgot lines ...

The thing is the wild card show is mostly about taking people from the top 32 who aren't chosen by the public.  They will have somewhere between 8-12 people on that episode.  And almost all, save maybe 2 will be from the top 32.

I agree they did spend a lot of time showing Scooter Girl. One thing that bothers me is that the judges chose the top 32 before any of the audition shows were aired (meaning they had no idea who the public would respond to).
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Post by: JMK on February 11, 2004, 10:39:29 AM
I think Scooter Girl will be back.  Marketing, people, marketing.

Hey, I'm a geezer--can any of you young 'un's recommend a shareware (as in free--I'm a CHEAP geezer) .WAV file recorder.  Since I only recently updated to the late 20th century and finally have a CD burner on my computer, I want to transfer a bunch of my live performances on casette onto CD and I'm assuming I'll have to record them in .WAV format first.  If this cheap and easy software (hmmmm....) also included editing and mixing capabilities, that would be a bonus!!

Thanks.  "Granpa" JMK
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Post by: Jennifer on February 11, 2004, 10:43:29 AM
Re: germs

It's weird, but I never used to care.

Now, like I said, I Purrell a lot at home. But for some reason I don't do any of the things DR CharlesPogue mentioned. I use public restrooms. I touch escalator handrails. And I've never really thought twice about it.

And the funny thing is I see those people in the restrooms who are using their elbows to get paper towels and open doors. And I always thought they were nuts :)
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 10:47:25 AM
DRPANNI - I bet your grandmother's I LOVE LUCY episodes were great.  Sometimes I turn off the sound and watch the closed captions....it's a whole new LUCY and just as hilarious.  Whoever does those captions has a great sense of humor!

Hey MBARNUM - Ed Fury could use that $25!

JMK check with George Snow - I bet he knows some great computer ware to do your transferring!  I haven't begun my LP to CD transfers, but I will someday....

I love "Sleeping Beauty" and "The Little Mermaid" among the Disney animated films - most of the rest of them, I am not fond of.

BK as J Pierpont Finch is a great idea!  Rip rip rip the chipmonks off the field!!!!!!!!!!1
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 11, 2004, 11:02:19 AM
Jennifer, true, last year the wild card picks were mostly from the top 32...or maybe all of them were... But I noticed that Ryan was very specific last night about saying that the wild cards could be picked from ANY phase of the competition.  And, again, I think  Scooter Girl just wowed too many people with her antics, personality, and her voice.  I was so disappointed she didn't make it, that they almost lost me as a viewer.  And most of last night's contestants, as Simon said were safe and bland, a boring, boring group...for the most part.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 11:06:00 AM
Oh DR MBarnum - I just checked the Cinemax listings... If I had the multiplex channels, I'd be able to record it today at 4:20pm.  But since I don't, I've set my VCR for 7:20am Friday morning for THE LAST WAGON.  -And I hope the quality of my VCR is good enough for you... I'll at least tape at SP. ;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 11:09:06 AM
Oh, I might as chime in on Scooter Girl too... I liked her voice, but as the judges pointed out, it's not truly a "pop voice"... well, at least the type of voice they're looking to find on AI.  And her persona just kind of creeped me out at times.  She'd be one of those people I'd cast only if I had no other choice. ;)  They could bring her back, but I doubt she'd get passed on.  Just my two cents.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 11:15:21 AM
hmmm.. Breaking news on my TV right now... Two post offices closed down in nearby Petersburg, VA, due to a suspicious "white powder"... Crazy world...  Let's hope it's just talcum.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 11:24:42 AM
Suspicious white powder?  Could be ZBT!  ;D

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Post by: JMK on February 11, 2004, 11:25:28 AM
Was Liza there?  ;)
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 11:29:52 AM
Since BK has annexed Mimsy and JR and I have dibs on some other person, obsessions about Farmers are now limited to Frank (FF's nephew with quite a string of credits of his own--includling lifting Liz Taylor up on the bar in "Butterfield 6" or "8" or whatever the heck it's called) and the Farmer in the Dell, with, perhaps tangentially, Ma and Pa Kettle (they were farmers, weren't they?).
DR Jose and I get dibs on Fanny Farmer.
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Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 11:45:33 AM
I'm so proud. I just realized this morning that I've stupidly been writing up a storm and not backing it up on disk. (I'm just getting used to my new office set-up and there are so many things that I just did without thinking in the old office 'cause I was used to having things work a certain way. Now I have to think. That's a tall order.) But when I tried to make my Super Disk Drive work, it just lay there like so much fish. I replugged everything - and still nothing but halibut. Finally I came up with an extraordinarily complex technical solution: I picked up the Super Disk Drive and whacked it against the desk three or four times. And guess what I heard? That pleasant little whirling noise which means LIFE. So now my writing is backed up and I'm a happy camper.
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Post by: Jennifer on February 11, 2004, 11:47:24 AM
Jennifer, true, last year the wild card picks were mostly from the top 32...or maybe all of them were... But I noticed that Ryan was very specific last night about saying that the wild cards could be picked from ANY phase of the competition.  And, again, I think  Scooter Girl just wowed too many people with her antics, personality, and her voice.  I was so disappointed she didn't make it, that they almost lost me as a viewer.  And most of last night's contestants, as Simon said were safe and bland, a boring, boring group...for the most part.

Last year I remember a couple of girls who were not in the top 32 coming back for the wild card. Maybe even 3. But the only one who went far was blonde Carmen.

I think it would be a marketing plus (as was pointed out). I've seen Scooter Girl on Entertainment tonight a couple of times.

It's interesting, but I also loved her. I was drawn to her bubbly personality and story.  And I was also very upset that they cut her.

It's interesting though to read DR Jose's view.  But I just have a feeling that the public would vote her in.

And I agree, most of what we saw last night was bland. I hate that there were so many great people in the top 100+. And this is what we got :(
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 11:48:33 AM
Ah ha! DRPANNI - so you were fooled by their undercover disguises as well!  LOL...they were actually subversives working in the employ of an unnamed world power.  Subtle.....
I always thought they tipped their hand a bit in the episode "Lucy Goes to Scotland," when they were revealed to be a two-headed dragon.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 11:51:05 AM
Ah DRSWW - you have a sharp eye!  Have you ever seen the color home movies somebody made on the set of that episode?  That Dragon costume and all those kilts were beautiful!  
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Post by: Jennifer on February 11, 2004, 11:54:00 AM
OMG DR Panni: You almost gave me a heart attack, thinking your work wasn't saved on disk.  Glad that worked out.
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Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 11:55:00 AM
 All these anti-bacterial soaps are overdoing it, because they are also destroying good bacteria that we need.

Since I have always been prone to catching colds and just about everything else, I am a bit obsessive about washing my hands.  Now I rarely get colds (I’m not including the last six months of my life in this statement).  I only disinfect the house when one of us has something major going on.  I must admit I’m not around children much anymore & that might have more to do with not getting sick than anything.
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Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 12:05:53 PM
MBarnum I see you found the link.  You and JRand53 remind me I still need to claim my father’s money.

Disney may not be Disney much longer if a hostile takeover happens.  :o

Jennifer I am one of those people, when possible, who use their elbows to take a paper towel, and I then use the towel to touch everything else including the door on my way out.  ;D

Panni I can’t believe you just whacked your disk drive-that’s a riot.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 12:05:54 PM
Disney:
Pre 1960 "Lady & The Tramp"
Post 1960 "The Hunchback Of Notre Dame"
Song: "Someone's Waiting For You" (The Rescuers)
Best: "Fantasia"

Honourable mention: "The Sword In The Stone".
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Post by: MBarnum on February 11, 2004, 12:11:47 PM
Oh DR MBarnum - I just checked the Cinemax listings... If I had the multiplex channels, I'd be able to record it today at 4:20pm.  But since I don't, I've set my VCR for 7:20am Friday morning for THE LAST WAGON.  -And I hope the quality of my VCR is good enough for you... I'll at least tape at SP. ;)

Thank you very, very much! Can't wait to see that movie again and add it to my Ken Clark collection of motion picture entertainments...right up there with his films Attack of the Giant Leeches and Hercules Against the Mongels!
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 12:16:02 PM
Drinking Song: "More Hot Pies" - Sweeney Todd.
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Post by: Jennifer on February 11, 2004, 12:22:35 PM
I'd be interested to hear what people do to disinfect their houses.  I'm sure I should be washing my phone/keyboard ... much more than I do.

There must be sprays for these sorts of things.

Btw, I am very bothered by perfumes, and I've had to give away my last two bottles of Purrell type disinfectants because the smells bothered me too much :(
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 12:32:44 PM
Thanks for the note re parcel MBarnum. I had an e-mail from Rhino today to tell me that a parcel had been posted - it arrived yesterday!  Postmarked February 7 and I received it on the Feb 10. The company is always very efficient but that is a record. (well no not really - it was 2 CDs).  Despite their efficiency, the order is for a friend who can never seem to log on to their site!
JRand: Watch your mail - but not until next week! Posting is to happen in 90 minutes time.
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Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 12:45:24 PM
Jennifer an environmentally friendly cleaner like Simple Green should be fine.  Find one that smells nice to you. For special occasions use a disinfectant that doesn’t smell too bad.  We, (I should say Keith since I’m allergic) have been cleaning the keyboard & phones with rubbing alcohol.  But if you don’t share the keyboard and you aren’t sick, then you don’t need to disinfect it.  When Keith had the flu I admit to using Clorox Up.  That along with sprays are so bad for the environment I hate to use them, plus they make me sick.
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Post by: JMK on February 11, 2004, 12:51:17 PM
DR Jose and I get dibs on Fanny Farmer.

Of course, how stupid of me!!  Someone once said, "I'm not Fanny Farmer, y'know," but for the life of me, I can't remember who.   ???
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Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 12:52:13 PM

I’m filling in the form to collect my father’s $64.50 missing money.  So much documentation is required, most of which my brother has, I’m not sure it’s worth it.  This is so old it is from our house in Cheviot Hills.  When I was cleaning out my father’s papers I trashed all records proving he lived there.  Darn, if only I had known.  I should have saved the deed to the house.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 12:52:46 PM
Disinfect?  Not much into it.  But I understand it's quite the thing in Japan, where they have entire stores dedicated to selling disinfected everything.

I guess I fall on the side of "exposure builds immunity."  Taking reasonable precautions in the kitchen, such as cleaning the cutting boards properly, makes sense, but that's just part of working in a kitchen.  

We may have to see about getting a few air purifiers for the house, however.  Der Brucer's daughter is highly phobic about germs and allergens, which she projects onto the grandlads.  She is particularly worried about "pet hair," and doesn't want the lads around the dogs.  (Like there's been a problem with the lads these last couple of days, with der Grampa's sweater covered with dander!)  So the investment will probably be a good idea, simply as a psychological "preventative".
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 12:58:28 PM
Of course, how stupid of me!!  Someone once said, "I'm not Fanny Farmer, y'know," but for the life of me, I can't remember who.   ???
Marion Cunningham, perhaps?

 ;D

(Now, let's see who gets the joke.)
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Post by: JMK on February 11, 2004, 01:00:36 PM
Hey, I have another techno-geek question, this one about the Windows XP taskbar!!  (Is this exciting stuff, or what?)

On our old computer, we had a little tray icon I could press to automatically get me back to the desktop without minimizing all the open windows.  Is there some way to do that here?  I can't even find a shortcut to the Desktop and have no clue about how to get it into the taskbar.

???
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 01:19:24 PM
My XP has an icon just to the right of the start button that goes to "desk top". Does that help?
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 01:20:29 PM
And yes I am attempting to update my photo with something that works! The puppies look a bit squashed.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on February 11, 2004, 01:22:51 PM

Disney may not be Disney much longer if a hostile takeover happens.  

Disney hasn't been Disney since Walt died?

Would Walt have made a cartoon full of fart jokes (THE LION KING) or where one cat invites another to her bedroom (OLIVER & COMPANY)?

Would Walt have hired Justin Timberlake, Brittany Spears and Christina Agulara for "The Mickey Mouse Club" and then allowed them to refuse to wear the ears and change the name to MMC to avoid all mention of the Mouse?

Would Walt have turned his "amusement parks where parents and children could have fun together" into gigantic overpriced vacation resorts?

Would Walt have bought a television network that showed decidedly un-Disney-like programing?

Would Walt have created Touchstone so he could release films that he was ashamed to have his name on (actually he wouldn't have needed to... he wouldn't have produced these films in the first place)?

The magic of the Disney name started to die the day Walt did.
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Post by: TCB on February 11, 2004, 01:23:04 PM
Thank you very, very much! Can't wait to see that movie again and add it to my Ken Clark collection of motion picture entertainments...right up there with his films Attack of the Giant Leeches and Hercules Against the Mongels!


Micheal -- You must have one of the world's most eclectic film collections!
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Post by: MBarnum on February 11, 2004, 01:29:07 PM
Micheal -- You must have one of the world's most eclectic film collections!


Ha TCB, you are much kinder then most of my friends! LOL!
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Post by: JMK on February 11, 2004, 01:36:11 PM
Thanks, Tomovoz--I evidently needed to add "Quick Launch" to the taskbar, and then magically I had a "Show Desktop" option upon right clicking.  Works for me.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 01:42:31 PM
I am having so many problems trying to change my profile today. I shall leave you all with a blurry photo. Maybe it can be posted on the site instead.
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Post by: TCB on February 11, 2004, 01:43:45 PM
Marion Cunningham, perhaps?

 ;D

(Now, let's see who gets the joke.)

Okay, Woody, I confess.  I don't get the joke.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 01:46:39 PM
Disney hasn't been Disney since Walt died?

Would Walt have made a cartoon full of fart jokes (THE LION KING) or where one cat invites another to her bedroom (OLIVER & COMPANY)?

Would Walt have hired Justin Timberlake, Brittany Spears and Christina Agulara for "The Mickey Mouse Club" and then allowed them to refuse to wear the ears and change the name to MMC to avoid all mention of the Mouse?

Would Walt have turned his "amusement parks where parents and children could have fun together" into gigantic overpriced vacation resorts?

Would Walt have bought a television network that showed decidedly un-Disney-like programing?

Would Walt have created Touchstone so he could release films that he was ashamed to have his name on (actually he wouldn't have needed to... he wouldn't have produced these films in the first place)?

The magic of the Disney name started to die the day Walt did.
So, you would have preferred the company be disbanded as of December 16th, 1966?
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 01:48:32 PM
Okay, Woody, I confess.  I don't get the joke.
Here's a hint: I'm not referring to the Happy Days character.  There is a real Marion Cunningham.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 01:49:05 PM
One of my favourite photos from New Zealand.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on February 11, 2004, 01:52:41 PM
No, Woody.  I would have liked to have it continued under the leadership of someone who shared Walt's values and his vision was not in it just for the money.
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Post by: Robin on February 11, 2004, 02:04:55 PM
1. What is your favorite pre-1960 Disney animated film?

2. What is your favorite post-1960 Disney animated film?

3. What is your favorite song from a Disney ankhich do you think is the best animated film of all-time?

Even though you asked BK, I'm gonna answer the question.  Mostly because I adore animation so gosh durn much.  

1.  Pinocchio.  I believe I'm the first to make this choice, and I'm shocked, shocked I tell you that no one beat me to it.  

2. Tarzan.  I liked the fact that the songs weren't sung by the on-screen characters, which would've been just too much given the rather dangerous milleu Tarzan inhabits.  And it's also my favorite version of Tarzan.

3.  "Belle" from Beauty and the Beast.  Exposition at its' most delightful.  

4.  I'm going to cheat here, and give you my three favorites, in no particular order.

4a.  Spirited Away
4b.  The Adventures of Prince Achmed
4c.  Allegro non troppo, which is freshly out on deeveedee.  Run out and buy/rent it.  
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Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 02:11:54 PM
Tomovoz I’m glad you posted the photo, how sweet.  How about the birds in your yard for your profile photo?
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Post by: Matt H. on February 11, 2004, 02:24:57 PM
Scooter Girl may not have the kind of voice they're looking for, but she was vocally more proficient than most of the women we heard last night with a voice significently brighter and more interesting than many we heard. I will be SHOCKED if she doesn't return for the wild card round.

DR JRand, I have not watched YOUNGBLOOD HAWKE and the other films yet. I have been somewhat under the weather for the last two days and have logged on, read the forum, and logged off. Have spent much  of the last two days lying down and dozing off and on. I want to give the movie I've waited so long to see the best opportunity to be enjoyed, and right now, I can't focus on anything for more than an hour or so. So, please don't think I'm not appreciative. I just haven't been up to it.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 02:30:29 PM
Thanks Jane. I am considering the birds as the profile. I just need to find a photo that is clear enough to be "reduced" to size etc.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 02:32:36 PM
Matt H feel better soon and


GOOD VIBES TO YOU!

I decided you might prefer if my good wishes didn't move.  :)

Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 02:33:02 PM
I want peanuts-in-the-shell!  :P I know this isn't the most scintillating topic for posting, but I go on food crazes - I'll fall in love with something and eat it until I get sick of it and move on to a new fave. Recently it's been peanuts-in-the-shell. I know exactly when this new obsession began. A while back I went to the Sunday Farmers Market with bk - who is on a one-man crusade to fatten me up. There was a peanut woman there and he insisted we buy a bag and that I take half of it home. Which is what happened. The peanuts were not great, but I got hooked. (It's fun to sit reading the paper while shelling nuts. I like food you have to work for. And I LOVE salty foods, unhealthy as that is, so I dip the peanuts in salt. Yum.) Since that fateful day at the market I've been refilling my peanut supply regularly. It's actually not that easy to find really fresh peanuts-in-the shell. So it's been a hit and miss enterprise. Anyway, I've run out and I'd have to interrupt my work to go to Trader Joe's for another pack. Probably in the time it took to write this I could've gone out and done it! Oh well. Maybe writing about it will get it out of my system.
Maybe not. I have some errands I could run near Trader Joe's...
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 11, 2004, 02:33:41 PM
Jennifer, I am quasi-obssessed with germs...I think it comes from my father who was always opening public bathrooms with his elbows and telling us kids not to touch anything while there.  

DR Charles,

I doubt that our dads attended the same hygiene class (my father was born in Russia and grew up in Harlem), but two of the earliest life skills that he taught us: (1) how to flush with your foot; and (2) how to build a bird's nest.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 02:35:50 PM
Feel better, Matt H! Perhaps some peanuts-in-the-shell with a cup of tea would be just the thing.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 02:37:16 PM
(1) how to flush with your foot;

I can't let this go. Please explain.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 02:41:39 PM
Dan-in-TO - I take back my wanting an explanation of how to flush with your foot. I misread it as "How to flush your foot"... An interesting image, but puzzling.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 02:46:30 PM
No, Woody.  I would have liked to have it continued under the leadership of someone who shared Walt's values and his vision was not in it just for the money.
Wherin lies the quandry.  Walt Disney was a genius, and his genius lay in his vision.  No one else had it but he.  There was no substitute, either in the wings or elsewhere.

For years, the Disney Studios tried to cling to his vision, asking themselves at every turn "What would Walt do?"  The result was years of stagnation.

Meanwhile, the world changed.  Repeatedly.  And it took a revolution at the helm to bring the company up to date.  Did that revolution try to replicate Walt?  No.  Personally, I think that was a step in the right direction.

As for a couple of your accusations, while Walt would probably not have included "fart jokes," he was not above including "tush jokes," even in Fantasia.  For it's time, those were just about as crass.  And the film where a female cat invites a male cat into her quarters is The Aristocats, made during the "What would Walt Do" era, not Oliver and Co., which came much later.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 11, 2004, 02:47:14 PM
DR Panni,

Flushing with your foot is puzzling too - especially when you're a short kid. (And you thought peanuts in the shell was less than scintillating?)
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 02:48:47 PM
3c.  Allegro non troppo, which is freshly out on deeveedee.  Run out and buy/rent it.  
Ah, yes!  I remember seeing this in the theaters when it was first released.  It kind of peters out at the end, but the segments are excellent.  Kudos for listing it!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 11, 2004, 02:52:45 PM
DR Panni,

I must clarify this, in case you're struggling with another puzzling image: Feet for toilets; elbows for urinals.

I'm flushed.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 02:56:16 PM
It's one of those "playing around with photograph mornings". This is of one of Colin's paintings of our garden birds (Crimson Rosellas). They of course were quite happy to pose without a fee.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 11, 2004, 02:58:14 PM
Dan, I still flush with my foot or use a paper towell to touch the lever.  I'm sure people would be delighted to know that the guy who was in the stall before them flushed with his foot.  God knows what that shoe in a public bathroom has been standing in...But, Hey, I'm looking out for numero uno.  Of course, most urinals these days seem to be auto-flush.  I have inherited all my father's public restroom precautions.

Jose, I understand why you can be creeped out by Scooter Girl...She is very, very manic and there is that glint of madness in the eyes, which leads my psychologist lovely wife to suspect she's bi-polar or manic-depressive.  It certainly plays into her startling, too-personal confession that first night when she chose to divulge that she had been anorexic and was over-achieving (a lot of gymnastic girls are anorexic).  She seems very, very driven.  So maybe the judges know something we don't...maybe they've seen her private demons and are afraid she'd just implode and have a breakdown on national television with all the pressure...though that might be eminently entertaining to watch too.  But driven though she may be, she also seem to have a very professional pragmatism about her and took everything the judges said about her with equanimity and calm.  I'm still betting and certainly hoping she'll be back.  Hell, they didn't think Clay was pop idol material either.

Bi-polars are often very exciting and attractive people.  When I worked with Jeremy Brett he was just the nicest, most enthusiastic. exhuberant fellow I'd ever met...It was only years later, I found out he suffered from manic-depressiveness.  I don't believe I ever saw him in one of his down periods.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Matt H. on February 11, 2004, 03:03:48 PM
Thanks, all, for the good wishes. I'm off for another lie-down. I think this kind of illness, where you're not quite sick enough to stay in bed all day but not well enough to feel 100% or want to do anything, is in some ways the worst. You never know if it's something slight or just the tip of the iceburg. I guess I'll know for sure by tomorrow.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jennifer on February 11, 2004, 03:06:33 PM
Scooter Girl may not have the kind of voice they're looking for, but she was vocally more proficient than most of the women we heard last night with a voice significently brighter and more interesting than many we heard. I will be SHOCKED if she doesn't return for the wild card round.

I'm glad you all think she will make the wild card round, since as I said, she was my favorite.  I was so surprised that they cut her, since she seemed to do everything they asked (and the judges kept going on about how great her voice was).

I think it will depend on how the public votes. It's clear that the judges want people like Fantasia and 16 yr old Diana to go through to the next round.  If the public doesn't vote them in, the judges will.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: MBarnum on February 11, 2004, 03:16:28 PM
It's one of those "playing around with photograph mornings". This is of one of Colin's paintings of our garden birds (Crimson Rosellas). They of course were quite happy to pose without a fee.

Oh, my gosh, that is a beautiful painting Tom (and Colin)!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: elmore3003 on February 11, 2004, 03:18:32 PM
Hello, it's Larry Moore here.  I had such a good time being BK's interview subject that I've become addicted to this site, and I thought I'd join the group and offer an occasional opinion.  It's exciting, too, because I forgot to mention in my interview that I was present at the birth of Guy Haines' recording debut with "Her Laughter In My Life," and while I'm not taking full credit, I do recall urging Mr Haines to consider doing a solo album of songs.  He's a talented Guy, that Haines.



Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: William F. Orr on February 11, 2004, 03:33:05 PM
Unpleasant Business Update:

Well, folks, I haven't read any of the posts today, but I wanted to let all of y'all know what's going on, since you have been so supportive.

My Joe is in jail.  The judge paid lip service to the state of his health but was just as unmoved by that as he was by witnesses who blatantly perjured themselves.  His sentence is sixty days.  He was whisked from the courtroom to be processed in Riverhead, out on the end of Long Island, whence he will probably transferred to a closer facility, but until he is able to phone I won't know where he is.

I am so full of anger and fear and all those negative emotions (yes, including the H word) by the injustice of the situation that I could not post here for the last few hours, for fear of just ranting.  (Am I ranting now?  I apologize.)

The house feels weirdly empty.  The last time Joe was away was last month when he spent a week taking care of his mother.  Before that, I can't remember.

He's being very brave, and I will have to be too.  Last night he told me to thank all you wonderful hainesy/kimlets for your good vibes.  It has been a great comfort.

I'll keep you posted, but I also hope to jump into the spirit of the fun here without spreading Doom and Gloom all about.

Thank you all.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: CharlieToft on February 11, 2004, 03:37:08 PM
Best pre-1960s Disney: THE THREE CABALLEROS.

Honorable mention: the "Blame it on the Samba" number with Ethel Smith in MAKE MINE MUSIC (or MELODY TIME, can't recall which at present)...and the Silly Symphony WOODLAND CAFE.

Post 1960s Disney...MARY POPPINS.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JMK on February 11, 2004, 03:37:59 PM
Wow, what a difference between the last two posts!

First off, welcome to Larry--your interview was fantastic.

Second, sympathies to WFO & Joe.  That's horrible, but take faith that what goes around comes around.  Eventually.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Robin on February 11, 2004, 03:45:50 PM
My Joe is in jail.  The judge paid lip service to the state of his health but was just as unmoved by that as he was by witnesses who blatantly perjured themselves.  His sentence is sixty days.

May the sixty days go by quickly for the both of you...
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 11, 2004, 03:46:08 PM
Welcome, Larry, I keep urging Mr. Kimmel, Mr. Haines' producer, to send a copy of the album to his pal, Gary Owens, over at 570 KTLA as it fits their programming needs...and while he's at it to Ksurf 1260...perhaps, John Regan...and get that album some radio play time and Mr. Haines the bigger audience he deserves.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 03:47:20 PM
Welcome to DR elmore.

I am shocked DR WFO....and disheartened as well...but sending good thoughts to you both.


Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jrand73 on February 11, 2004, 03:48:19 PM
Yes DRMATTH you must be in tip top shape to view Youngblood Hawke and the other goodies.

Thanks TOMOVOZ....for posting the painting and posting the package!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 03:50:30 PM
Welcome to Larry!  

WFO: The justice system in this country should be put on trial - it is shameful.  Your judge should also be held culpable for his actions, but unfortunately, no one judges the judge.  I share your anger.  

In a rather fast turnaround, I got a new galley today and have given it a quick once-over.  The good news is it's much closer and better - the bad news is it isn't what I asked for it to be, i.e. perfect.  That will take one final pass, hopefully by Friday.  There were just some minor spacing things and two things that I didn't catch last time because there was so much stuff last time and my eye didn't see these two things.  Other than that, the actual fixes should take them about a half-hour I should think and then, if they do their job right, they should spend two hours doing a page by page (especially around the fixes) to make sure nothing else got screwy.  Makes you long for the days of old-fashioned type-setting, don't it?  
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: MBarnum on February 11, 2004, 03:50:30 PM
Welcom aboard the board new DR Elmore (alias Larry). You will have fun here!!


WFO, I am so sorry. I will be keeping good thoughts for Joe...that is shocking and terrible!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 03:50:49 PM
A generous supply of good vibes to Joe and WFO.
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And a glad welcome to Larry!  I look forward to your opinions and input.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: PennyO on February 11, 2004, 03:51:44 PM

Weird Romance is a favorite of mine, even though I've never seen it.  Great songs, great scripts (given that it is two one-act plays).  I really wish der Brucer hadn't loaned our CD to the director of a theater we were associated with, because said director never returned it.  She tended to book seasons at the theater according to reputation, not according to the quality of the work, sound unheard.  Which explains why she booked Bed and Sofa, which has won awards from people who don't know better.  Making this more salt in the wound is that the CD of Weird Romance is now out of print.

David Spencer is a great old friend of mine, and I'll be seeing him in NYC after my shows conclude. I'm going to forward him your so complimentary comments, and i wouldn't be surprised if he came up with a CD for you.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Robin on February 11, 2004, 04:02:37 PM
By the way, BK...I'm glad you enjoyed The Triplets of Belleville.  As much as I liked Finding Nemo, I like this movie quite a bit more; it manages to be both more ambitious and simpler at the same time.  

And it has the most insideously catchy music...the score CD has been getting a lot of play lately!  The title tune has been nominated for an Oscar.  

I'm really pulling for this movie to get Oscared.  (Did I just coin a new word?)  Computer animation is just fine, but I'm a luddite as far as animation goes, I guess.  While The Triplets of Belleville has a touch of it, it doesn't go overboard.  I'm hopeful that it will, since Spirited Away darkhorsed to a well-deserved win last year.  (Did I just coin another word?  Jee...that would be two newly minted words in one post!)

(By the way, has anyone else sighted Buzz Lightyear's cameo appearance in Nemo?)

Sorry for all the parentheses in this post.  But once you're in the habit, it's hard to bracket.  
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Emily on February 11, 2004, 04:16:10 PM
WFO...

I hereby open the bag of unlimited vibes:
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Take heart in knowing that you, at least, were in the right and aren't evil like the MacBeths.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 04:18:30 PM
Dear WFO - Thank you for the update.  I'm so sorry you didn't have better and brighter news to share with us.  Your Joe is indeed a brave soul, and I'm sure your support will make the next 60 days go by in a relative flash.  And I have to say, this really does prove that HHW is a most wonderful place on the internet - not many people would feel safe and secure and enough to share such news in a public forum.  Thank you.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 04:19:43 PM
Ummm.. DR Emily....

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Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JMK on February 11, 2004, 04:20:53 PM
Why are we suddenly in widescreen (and I mean WWWWWIWIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEESSSSSSSCCCCCRREE EEEENNNNNNNNN?

Is it Goddess Emily's vibes?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 04:22:51 PM
Welcome DR elmore3003 (aka Larry Moore)!

Welcome back DR Charlie Toft!

Oh, BK - Did Larry Blank by chance mention the splendid time we had two summers ago at the Kennedy Center during the Sondheim Celebration? ;)  -He needs to write a book - the stories of his work and dealings with some of the greats and near greats... well, some of them are unpublishable. :X
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 04:25:03 PM
Ummm.. DR Emily seems to have logged off for now... How many more posts do we need to get to Page 6? ;)
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: George on February 11, 2004, 04:27:26 PM
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find myself wrong about the cost of champagne.  Der Brucer is the one who really knows that stuff, not I, and he's doing a repeat grandladsit today and so is not available.  (My researching websites will clearly be for my own education, as well!)

But George's question has brought to mind something that hasn't been discussed here before.

Dear BK and esteemed DRs: What are your favorite drinking songs?

"The Night They Invented Champagne," from Gigi, has been ringing through my head for over an hour.

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned these, (I'm posting as I come across them) but I like "Belly Up to the Bar, Boys" from The Unsinkable Molly Brown and "Faro-La, Faro-Li (Song of the New Wine)" as recorded by Judy Kaye, on the CD "Jeepers Creepers:  Great Songs from Horror Films" produced by our very own BK!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 04:28:37 PM
William F Orr, what can I say but I’m sorry.  My heart & thoughts are with you both during this time.  
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Laura II on February 11, 2004, 04:30:32 PM
WFO, I am very sorry to hear that news. You and Joe are in my thoughts.


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Welcome, Larry!

Favorite pre-1960 Disney film: Sleeping Beauty
Favorite post-1960 Disney film: Beauty and the Beast, followed closely by The Little Mermaid and Aladdin, which I haven't watched in years
Favorite Disney song(s)--I can't possibly choose one!: "Something There," "Part of Your World," "Why Should I Worry?," "You'll Be in My Heart"

Re Hygiene:

I'm a tinge OCD. I remember one time in 7th or 8th grade, my friend's mom was supposed to pick me up so we could go to the mall at 7:00. The lady was 20 minutes late. In that 20 minutes, I went from my front door to the kitchen sink to wash my hands about 15-20 times or more. I am one of the people who flushes with my feet, and I never sit in a public restroom--never. I also open bathroom doors with paper towels or my sleeve, and I turn off the water with a towel after washing my hands. I remember I once complained here about the skin on my hands--it was cracking and bleeding. Well, that's because I use way too much Purell and because I wash my hands too often and do not dry them thoroughly. Last week, when I was visiting my great-aunt, I was holding her four-month-old granddaughter, and my family laughed because I would wipe her mouth immediately if she drooled. I even told her "Cleanliness is next to Godliness." What can I say? I'm my mother's daughter!

Someone had mentioned disinfecting the house (I believe it was Jane). My mother vacuums and scours or dusts every room of the house 5 or 6 days a week (not on Sundays, and occasionally not on Saturdays). We've never been allowed to have pets, and we are not allowed to wear shoes in the house. Some people might find this odd, but I'm accustomed to it, and I like it this way. The only thing about it that I ever thought was weird was that when I was growing up, my brother and I were never allowed to go up to our rooms until bedtime because my mother liked to keep it neat until the last possible moment. You know, I think I got used to that too.

Special request: Above, I mentioned my great-aunt. I will be visiting her again this weekend (in PA) for her granddaughter's Baptism. My great-aunt has cancer, and she's not doing well. This might be the last time I will see her. If you wouldn't mind keeping her in your thoughts, I would greatly appreciate it.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: William F. Orr on February 11, 2004, 04:31:08 PM
Thanks to one and all and all and one for your kind sentiments.

But, Dear Reader Emily, I think you got so enthusiastic, vibe-wise, that you sent us into Cinerama (American spelled inside out).  Maybe you can edit your post and chop up the long vibes, or everyone is going to get a crick in their mouse from scrolling left and right.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 04:38:50 PM
"Why are we suddenly in widescreen"

I'm so glad you said something.  I thought I was the only one.  Are you also missing the right side of the column?  I couldn't click on quote either.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 04:40:04 PM
I undid the vibes of Emily, but know that she sent them!

WFO: You've never actually recounted the dastardly story to us.  Are you precluded from doing so?  
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Emily on February 11, 2004, 04:45:24 PM
oops... I over vibed...

there is a first for everything! ;)
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 04:47:30 PM
Someone had mentioned disinfecting the house (I believe it was Jane).


Yes, but only when there is a great need for it.  My pets sleep all over me and my cat got in the crib with my babies.  

The quote is back!

Have a good visit with your great-aunt.  
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: George on February 11, 2004, 04:50:05 PM
I want peanuts-in-the-shell!  :P I know this isn't the most scintillating topic for posting, but I go on food crazes - I'll fall in love with something and eat it until I get sick of it and move on to a new fave. Recently it's been peanuts-in-the-shell. I know exactly when this new obsession began. A while back I went to the Sunday Farmers Market with bk - who is on a one-man crusade to fatten me up. There was a peanut woman there and he insisted we buy a bag and that I take half of it home. Which is what happened. The peanuts were not great, but I got hooked. (It's fun to sit reading the paper while shelling nuts. I like food you have to work for. And I LOVE salty foods, unhealthy as that is, so I dip the peanuts in salt. Yum.) Since that fateful day at the market I've been refilling my peanut supply regularly. It's actually not that easy to find really fresh peanuts-in-the shell. So it's been a hit and miss enterprise. Anyway, I've run out and I'd have to interrupt my work to go to Trader Joe's for another pack. Probably in the time it took to write this I could've gone out and done it! Oh well. Maybe writing about it will get it out of my system.
Maybe not. I have some errands I could run near Trader Joe's...

My niece loves salted peanuts-in-the-shell.  She usually only gets them when she goes to a baseball game (only once or twice a year) but she sticks the whole peanut-in-the-shell into her mouth and sucks off the salt, then she opens it and eats the peanut(s) and throws the shells on the floor (it's allowed at the baseball field).  Personally, I think that's kinda gross :P.  Well, just the sucking the salt off the shell part.  The peanuts themselves are good.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: elmore3003 on February 11, 2004, 04:53:08 PM
All right, I'll jump in!

FAVE pre-1960 Disney:  ALICE IN WONDERLAND
Post-1960:  101 DALMATIANS;  I thought that MARY POPPINS was a wonderful idea because I never would have thought of it as an animated film.  But it is, Blanche!

FAVE Disney song:  "The Second Star to the Right," which I believe was called "Beyond the Land of My Dreams" when Sammy Fain wrote it for ALICE.  The PETER PAN lyric is much better, I believe.  

DRINKING SONG:  One for my Baby, Absinthe Frappe, See What the Boys in the Backroom Will Have, and that great song BK recorded on LIB4 "Have A Memory on Me"
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 04:55:00 PM
Tomovoz, before I read your post I was thinking how beautiful the birds were.  My compliments to Colin.

Guess I should come clean, I too am a foot flusher.

Welcome Larry Moor we are glad you joined us.  I enjoyed your interview.

Pre 1960 Disney film:  Lady & the Tramp or 101 Dalmatians.  I’m not sure.  101 is the first movie I took our older son too making is special to me.  The witch in Snow White gave me nightmares and Bambi was so sad.  Wait, I forgot Cinderella.  As a child that was my favorite.  
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 05:00:10 PM
In other news....

The producers of Gypsy with Bernadette Peters pulled the closing notice...

Surprise, suprise?

And George Wolfe has resigned as head of the Public Theatre.  -Wonder if this will affect the transfer of Caroline, or Change at all?

As for Scooter Girl (again) - If she does come back, it will be interesting to see how the public reacts to her.  It will be very interesting.   -And I just have to wonder if the producers of AI are compensating the (poor) "She Bangs, She Bangs" guy for their continual referencing of him.  -Or did he sign away all of his "rights" in the initial relase form?  -Probably...
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 05:03:12 PM
Elmore3003 I’m referring to the animated 101 Dalmatians. I can’t seem to find the release date so maybe I mean post 1960.  Which version are you referring to?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 05:04:59 PM
Sheesh!?!?!  Just how many times does NBC - and CNBC - plan to show each week's episode of "The Apprentice".

-Oh, I didn't realize "The Restaurant" is being brought back for a second season... Which should be interesting since Mr. DiSpirito is currently being sued by a group of his investors for mismanagement and mishandling of funds.  Of course, maybe its all part of the show - ?!?!?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jed on February 11, 2004, 05:06:41 PM
WFO - Another example of horrible things happening to wonderful people.  Best of thoughts to you and Joe.

Drinking songs - I second PennyO's vote for "The Drinking Song" (yes, that's the title) from The Student Prince.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: George on February 11, 2004, 05:10:26 PM
I should think that storing the champagne in a cool place should be fine.  Preferably on it's side, the same as any wine, so that the cork stays wet.  A day or two before the celebration, pop it in the refrigerator to chill.  Do not allow the bubbly to freeze, as that will distroy the bubbles.

If it is your parent's 40th anniversary, why are you buying champagne that is "cheap"?  This is one of the occasions that deserves quality, and that means spending money.  (Cheap champagne is for celebrations where you're pouring for people who you don't really know and probably won't know the difference, like for a New Years Eve party at a bar.)  I would suggest checking out a reputable wine merchant, explaining the situation, and setting a limit on how much you want to spend.  He (or she) should be able to help you find the best buy.

I think DR George meant that he bought his expensive wine at a bargain price, DR SWW, not that he bought cheap champagne.  I don't know from what about Champagne....but a 1995 Dom Perignon probably wasn't cheap!

I bought Cuvée Dom Perignon 1995 (normally $130-$180 a bottle!) at Costco for only $99.  No, it ain't cheap, even from Costco.

And thanks to everyone who offered information about storing champagne.  It's quite informative information.  I had the bottle standing up, but per S. Woody's instructions, I've put it on its side.  It's also in my extra bedroom where it's nice and cool because I don't turn on the heat.

Also, welcome Larry Moore, aka elmore3000!

and:

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Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: elmore3003 on February 11, 2004, 05:20:36 PM
Jane,  

According to the Maltin book on Disney films, the animated 101 DALMATIANS is from 1961 and that's the one I was referring to; I have no urge to see Glen Close replace the frightening animated Cruella with a drag queen.  Of the later films, I liked ALADDIN quite a lot and found the songs to BEAUTY AND THE BEAST and LITTLE MERMAID much better than the films.  I thought they gave too much plot away in BEAUTY AND THE BEAST:  it's about how someone you come to love becomes beautiful to you, not about a vain prince waiting for the right girl.  As for LITTLE MERMAID, I hated the happy ending.  Hans Andersen was right: it's about a fish out of water.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Danise on February 11, 2004, 05:32:27 PM
Evening all!

Good vibes to DR William F. Orr and Joe!  Will you be allowed to visit?  I hope so!

Bruce–I have something for you that was brought up at work and I swear I didn’t start it!

Spell: Race car

Backwards.  

Cool, huh?  A friend came over to my desk today and said he knew I would appreciate it.   

So how did your first diet day go, Jose?  Not as bad as you thought it would be, I bet.  I expected to be starving but I was fine!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 05:32:50 PM
My heart goes out to you and Joe, WFO.  I hope the 60 days passes as quickly as possible.

Welcome, Larry Moore!

Colin's painting is lovely, Tomovoz.

I'm going out for a quick walk now to try and sort out some writing stuff.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 05:37:40 PM
DR Danise.... Umm... Did I say today?  I meant tomorrow.. Well, that tomorrow...  BUT I did make it to the grocery store and I'm very well-stocked with "approved" foods now.  So...  In my "defense", however, what I did eat today was in very appropriate portions, and my sugar intake was nowhere near what it was during Memphis this past weekend.  I guess I'm just trying not go cold turkey.  HA!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jay on February 11, 2004, 05:42:19 PM
I'm gone for a few hours and there are so many things to respond to...

Dear Reader William F. Orr:  My heart goes out to you and Joe.

Dear Reader Tomovoz:  Colin's painting is simply lovely.

Dear Reader elmore3003:  Welcome!

Dear Reader Jose:  George Wolfe was just given a big feature profile in the past Sunday's L.A. Times.  (Topdog/Underdog is opening in town this week.)

Dear Reader Jane:  101 Dalmations was the very first motion picture I saw in a theatre, as it was for your eldest son!

Dear Reader S. Woody White:  Wasn't Marion Cunningham the food writer/recipe creator for the NY Times some years ago?  That would be the parlay from Fannie Farmer, no?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 05:45:12 PM
OH... DR SWW - I know who Marion Cunningham is too!

OOohhh... First round of eliminations on AI right now - well, on the East Coast... Ooohhh...
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 05:49:20 PM
I do believe, being the cynic that I am, that the closing notice for Gypsy was specifically put up to bolster business.  It did in a minor way, and then they pulled the notice.  It's like the old "going out of business" sale scams.  
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jay on February 11, 2004, 05:50:08 PM
A cute story about my seeing 101 Dalmations for the first time.  The day I saw it was also the day that I first lost one of my baby teeth.  Not knowing what the going tooth fairy rate was at the time (I am the eldest of the children in my family, you know), my mother asked one of our family friends/neighbors.  This family friend/neighbor must have liked me, as she told my mom it was a dollar, when, in fact, the true going rate at the time was a quarter.  So what did my clever mother do?  She somehow came up with 101 pennies and that's what I found under my pillow the next morning.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 06:02:17 PM
AI... Interesting... And it's amazing how they stretch the whole decision into 30 minutes... More after the West Coast airtimes.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Danise on February 11, 2004, 06:03:55 PM
Now Jose.  If you went to the grocery store and bought the right things, you are officially as of this very moment, on your diet. No ifs, ands or butts.  And I mean butts as in a few weeks there won't be one!   :D
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 06:08:02 PM
Now Jose.  If you went to the grocery store and bought the right things, you are officially as of this very moment, on your diet. No ifs, ands or butts.  And I mean butts as in a few weeks there won't be one!   :D

LOL!

Now maybe we should take "before" and "after" shots of said posteriors... Or maybe not...
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Danise on February 11, 2004, 06:13:42 PM
Hummm--Where's that tri-pod when you need it?
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Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 06:15:28 PM
Where's the tri-tip when you need it?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 06:15:48 PM
Where's the tri-state when you need it.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 06:16:10 PM
Where's the tri-to remember when you need it?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Danise on February 11, 2004, 06:24:01 PM
Where's that tri cycle when you need it?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 06:25:11 PM
Where's the tri-ply stainless steel 4 quart sauce pan when you want to make fudge?

-Yes, I'm watching Good Eats.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Danise on February 11, 2004, 06:28:56 PM
Bad, Jose.  Baaaad!  
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 06:30:00 PM
My thoughts to Joe & Bill. Know that you can't lock someway away from love.
Welcome aboard Larry.
Thanks for the comments re Colin's painting. They shall be passed on. I of course am the one who feeds the birds - it's only twopence a bag. (If only).
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Danise on February 11, 2004, 06:32:44 PM
Hate to say it but it's 9:30 PM.  A good night to all!

Jose, back away from the sauce pan--NO fudge.  :-)

Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Ann on February 11, 2004, 06:35:41 PM
Best of vibes for WFO and Joe.  it makes my blood boil to think of how unjust the justice system can be in this country.  May the 60 days past as quickly as possible.  

Disney films...I love 'em, almost all of them.  Except for a few of the more recent ones.  More details later...
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: DearReaderLaura on February 11, 2004, 06:54:54 PM
It's not a "justice system" -- it's a "legal system."
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Kerry on February 11, 2004, 06:56:50 PM
WFO-- you have my sympathies and regrets.  And the 60 days will go by slowly---- for the next 60 days.   But it WILL be over and WILL pass.   You are both survivors, and you'll survive this.   ASK Jane, Panni, SWoody, Me, and others about surviving. You will-- trust me.  You can later channel your anger into something constructive.

After Jose makes me some fudge, maybe he could bake Joe a cake with a file in it!

Drinking songs:  "The Drinking Song" from "Student Prince" and "Make It Another Old-fashioned Please"
I also like "Scotch and Soda"  Who did that-- the Kingston Trio?

Someone mentioned Master and the Commander--  I think an old boyfriend and I played that once :-X


Jose, I want to hear the Unpublishable stories!  Compile them while you're baking cookies and cakes and stirring fudge to send to Arizona!

Disney-  Favorite song (and sequence) would have to be "Baby Mine" from DUMBO.

The Ethel Smith number from Make Mine Music (or Three Caballeros or whatever it was from was so surreal.  It was like something Timopthy leary would have come up with).

WFO, send Joe a hug from LYn, Sugar and me.

Tom--

Thank you again!   Also-- telll Colin we love his beautiful painting.  I've been trying to post a pic for my profile which I KNOW is small enough, but I still keep gettting the message that it's too big.  Now let's just leave that line alone.

Panni-- I want to read some of your work!!!!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 11, 2004, 07:07:31 PM
DR WFO,

Please know that my thoughts are with you and Joe. I'm so sorry it has come to this. I wish you both strength.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 07:15:26 PM

Dear Reader Jane:  101 Dalmations was the very first motion picture I saw in a theatre, as it was for your eldest son!

How cute.  I haven't a clue what my first movie was.

Elmore3003 thanks for the date.  Guess I now know what my favorite post 1960 Disney movie is. :)
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Jane on February 11, 2004, 07:21:30 PM
WFO-- you have my sympathies and regrets.  And the 60 days will go by slowly---- for the next 60 days.   But it WILL be over and WILL pass.   You are both survivors, and you'll survive this.  

So true and well put Kerry, words to give strength and hope.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Kerry on February 11, 2004, 07:29:30 PM
One more thought, WFO:  at leat you both KNOW now what the outcome is.  NOT KNOWING is one of the hardest things to get through (for me, anyway).


Now, Jose.  AFTER the fudge, how does one get off sugar?  I can't get enough lately.  My sweet toooth has taken over.  THE ATTACK OF THE 50 FOOT SWEEET TOOTH!

MattH-- feel better.  You want to be in good shape to appreciate the NY apartment, bar and light fixtures of the successful.

JRAND:  What can we do for YOU?  
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 07:38:16 PM
Panni-- I want to read some of your work!!!!

Thank you, Kerry. I write mainly screenplays, so rather than read, you could watch my stuff. Some is available fairly cheaply on the Internet - not all on DVD, unfortunately. But I know you can get MY LOUISIANA SKY on DVD. MISS ROSE WHITE is a favorite of mine, but it's only available on cassette. It can be bought very cheaply, though. AMELIA EARHART, THE FINAL FLIGHT with the ever popular Diane Keaton is good. Diane gives a wonderful performance, as does Bruce Dern. I don't know if it's available cheaply or not. That's enough to start with, I do believe. Thanks again for wanting to see my work!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 07:42:59 PM
WFO - Although I posted about it earlier - I want to repeat what Dan said - wishing you strength. Tonight will probably be one of the hardest for you. We're all out here in different corners of the world, wishing you and Joe well and thinking of you.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: William F. Orr on February 11, 2004, 07:57:03 PM
Wish I had time to comment on everything before I hit the sack (!!!! "What did the sack ever do to you that you should hit it," BK would probably remark.), but I'm beat.

I read all your nice, lovely, and jiggy posts today, though I've been pretty quiet.  I love this place, and you are a great group of people.  I guess Mr. Bruce Kimmel is some sort of Good People magnet.

As for the Whole Story, that will be told here eventually, but now is not the time!  (Oh, a Hugh-Wheeler's-Book-for-Candide reference!)  I mean, maybe veiled recountings with the names of the butt-cheeks changed to protect the Evil.  But the novel, play, film, musical, musical film, cocktail napkins, and lunch boxes will come later.

And Tomovoz, thank you so much for sharing Colin's painting.  You must know that it has now been downloaded all over the world.  Good thing you're not a megalithic record company!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Emily on February 11, 2004, 08:00:44 PM
ooh ooh

I want an "ugly business" lunchbox!!! ;)
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 08:02:10 PM
How absolutely bizarre. I just now read WFO's last post and when I looked at his photo there were "bars" in front of it - lines which ran horizontally across his picture, making it look like he was looking at us from behind bars. "A tribute to Joe, " I thought and wondered how he had achieved the effect. Then I looked at another page and came back - and the "bars" were gone. So it must've been some computer glitch. Or am I just going crazy?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 08:11:36 PM
"going" crazy???  I think it is quite possible you passed that mark (bakalor) some time ago.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 08:33:15 PM
DR WFO: Colin still has not paid my Teddy Bears for "sitting" for a number of paintings so I shall give what I can to the world until his debts are settled. Already the Bears have withheld cuddling rights from him. Some of the bears posed without clothes and they should I believe be on an even higher rate of remuneration.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 08:42:00 PM
Unpaid Bears
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: William F. Orr on February 11, 2004, 08:43:48 PM
Well, rest assured, all you Save the Sacks activists, I have not as yet hit said sack.

I've been lulling myself to sleep with Brent Barrett's Kander and Ebb CD.  (It'll have to do until the real thing comes along!)  And I was struck at how incredible the arrangements by Christopher Denny and orchestrations by Larry Moore are.  (Try diagramming that sentence!  Positively Germanic!)

Especially "All That Jazz".  Now I have to pull out Lea Delaria and compare her version.

[Quick!  What do Brent Barrett and Lea Delaria have in common?  Among other things I suddenly recall BK recounting having run into each of them by accident at Joe Allen's on separate occasions.  I dunno.  I have a weird memory.  Not to mention a weird romance.  Oh, an Alan Menken reference!  (Did someone mention that the York Peppermint Patty Theatre was going to do that show?)]

--My, my!The above reads like François wrote it!  Except the margins aren't narrow enough.  By the bye, has anyone heard from our witty Parisian lately?
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Post by: Matt H. on February 11, 2004, 08:49:30 PM
So sorry, DR WFO, about the bad news. No matter how miserable we may think we are, there is always someone worse off. I've felt crummy all day, but reading your news just now made me realize how small my sickness is in the grand scheme of thiings.

I won't give away any AMERICAN IDOL votes, but I have to say the results didn't surprise me in the least.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: William F. Orr on February 11, 2004, 08:59:39 PM
Emily:

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Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 09:01:05 PM
I've talked about the All That Jazz track before.  They'd sent me several versions of it on tape and I hadn't cared for any of them.  So, we just kept putting it aside.  It was always going to be a small track anyway.  At the studio, they played me their latest version and it was blah.  Story continued in a mo.
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 11, 2004, 09:04:33 PM
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Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: William F. Orr on February 11, 2004, 09:05:49 PM
Okay, a mo is over, BK.  And... ?
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Post by: William E. Lurie on February 11, 2004, 09:07:31 PM
 And the film where a female cat invites a male cat into her quarters is The Aristocats, made during the "What would Walt Do" era, not Oliver and Co., which came much later.

No - It's OLIVER & COMPANY - It was the Bette Midler cat and the Cheech Marin cat.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: TCB on February 11, 2004, 09:09:56 PM
All my good thoughts and prayers (yes, prayers) to WFO and Joe.

Welcome Elmore3003 (I loved the interview)

In the months I have been visiting HHW, I have gotten to know so many wonderful things about such a wide and diverse group of my fellow visitors.  But never, never, never, (that's three nevers) did I ever imagine that I would find out, from so many of you, what portion of the anatomy you use to flush the toilet!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: TCB on February 11, 2004, 09:13:17 PM
How cute.  I haven't a clue what my first movie was.

Elmore3003 thanks for the date.  Guess I now know what my favorite post 1960 Disney movie is. :)


Jane -- Does Keith know that you are dating again?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 09:17:55 PM
FS Pogue - A question which arises out of frustration. Do you often in note sessions get asked to cut chunks of the script because of time, but are asked to put in numerous new scenes and elements which ADD pages?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: William F. Orr on February 11, 2004, 09:22:02 PM
Consarn it, BK, I waited a mo.  I waited one mo.  I waited two mos.  I waited three mos.  It's been so many mos I stopped counting.

That's it!  I'll give you... one mo' mo!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 09:27:52 PM
Cute bears, Tomovoz. This sophisticated European artiste of a certain age is a sucker for stuffed animals.

Speaking of animals, there was a wonderfully funny photo in yesterday's paper of a sea lion happily sunning itself on top of a police car. It had somehow wandered 60 miles inland and wound up on the highway where it was finally caught to be returned to the ocean. I cut out the picture.
Then...in today's paper there was a small item saying that the reason the sea lion had become disoriented was that it had a bullet lodged in its head! (It's going to be fine.) Now who the hell would shoot a sea lion in the head?! What a world...
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 09:29:57 PM
Special request: Above, I mentioned my great-aunt. I will be visiting her again this weekend (in PA) for her granddaughter's Baptism. My great-aunt has cancer, and she's not doing well. This might be the last time I will see her. If you wouldn't mind keeping her in your thoughts, I would greatly appreciate it.
I will certainly keep your great-aunt in my thoughts.

If you get a chance, my dear neice, take the time to sit down with her, and listen to what she has to say.  In particular, try to steer her towards family history, stories you might not have heard before, the fond memories and family jokes.  And remember, what you hear from her will need to be passed on, to her granddaughter and to others.  It's up to you, kid.  I'm sure you'll know how to do your part.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 09:36:08 PM
Cute bears, Tomovoz. This sophisticated European artiste of a certain age is a sucker for stuffed animals.


"stuffed!" I think not. I hope Butch and his friends don't read this.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 09:37:02 PM
"Butch" is second from the left and he arrived here WITH his name.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: William F. Orr on February 11, 2004, 09:37:35 PM
Adding my thoughts to Woody's, LauraII.  I couldn't put it better than he did.  Just remember.  Remember everything.  It will grow in value.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 09:37:59 PM
I bought Cuvée Dom Perignon 1995 (normally $130-$180 a bottle!) at Costco for only $99.  No, it ain't cheap, even from Costco.
I deservedly stand corrected.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 09:38:02 PM
Sorry, galley stuff.  Anyway, I just took the boys out into the studio and I said, "Just start messing around"  They messed around for about ten minutes to no avail and I think I said, "Do something lazy".  And Chris started playing it kind of laid back and bluesy and that was it.  We worked on the form for about ten minutes, got the layout, recorded the basic track in one take, and did a bit of finessing and that was that - magic!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 09:48:57 PM
No - It's OLIVER & COMPANY - It was the Bette Midler cat and the Cheech Marin cat.
Cheech Marin was a male dog. Bette Midler was a b...uh, female dog.   ::)
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: William F. Orr on February 11, 2004, 09:49:56 PM
Thanks, BK.  That was worth waiting a few mos for.  The result was splendid.

Btb (by the bye in Internet Lingo) I just listened to Lea's version and I much prefer Brent's--though I think Lea's album is terrif (Oh, a Comden and Green reference).  But she riffs around and jazzes "All That Jazz" [sic] up a lot more.  Brent's is more of a consistent musical point of view, reinterpretation.

But what do I know?  Who am I, Maury Yeston, Professor of Music at Yale, all of a sudden?  It's late. But, as Stephen Schwartz put it,  teachers belong where they can rample.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 10:01:07 PM
Tomovoz (and Butch) - Apologies for the insulting "stuffed."
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 10:03:39 PM
I just looked at the clock. How did it get to be 10? What happened to the last two hours?? Last time I checked it was around 8. I swear I've only been drinking Diet Cherry Coke - but I've lost two hours. It's the peanut DT's, I think. Tomorrow I must go out and buy more peanuts,
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 10:03:58 PM
On behalf of the family "Thank you" Panni. (Hugs from Butch)
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: TCB on February 11, 2004, 10:06:31 PM
"Butch" is second from the left and he arrived here WITH his name.

Never fear, Tomovoz, none of us believed, for a second, that you gave him that name!
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 10:07:13 PM
Perhaps it's shell shock Panni.
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Post by: TCB on February 11, 2004, 10:10:13 PM
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 10:10:22 PM
I missed the first run of Good Eats tonight, because we were eating good at the Blue Moon (very yum!) and got home too late.

But the rerun is on now.  Pardon me while I enjoy.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 10:11:05 PM
Thank you TCB. You know me so well. (A "Chess" reference - almost).
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 11, 2004, 10:11:50 PM
Grain?
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 10:15:29 PM
Shell shock. Very good. On that note (b-flat) I'll say good-night, all.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 10:28:27 PM
I'm in a commercial break.

Now, about Marion Cunningham, and what she has to do with Fanny Farmer.  Fanny Farmer wrote a very important cookbook, way back when.  Well before The Joy of Cooking.  Quite some time later, Marion Cunningham, the food writer, rewrote The Fanny Farmer Cookbook.  It has since become a staple in many kitchens.

Smart lady, Marion Cunningham.  Except, she should have done something to make sure people knew who she was; Fanny Farmer got way too much credit for Marion's work.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 10:32:03 PM
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Green?  No, that's a color-blind clue.
Title: Re:THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE
Post by: Laura II on February 11, 2004, 10:34:30 PM
Uncle Woody and WFO: Thank you very much for your thoughts and for stressing the importance of gathering stories. It is very important to me that I learn as much as I can about whatever she wants to tell me. Over Thanksgiving, she told stories, and it made me so happy to watch a grin creep over her face as she relived those moments. I will certainly spend more time with her this weekend. We never know how long we have with another person, and I've noticed that I've started to sit and chat for awhile with other family members, no matter what their age or health. Last week, I spent about an hour or two talking with my grandpa about some concerns I have because I never want to regret losing time with a person. My next goal is to become closer with my father and his parents. I really want to have a strong relationship with all of my family members, and both of you truly helped me see that this is a good choice on my part. Thank you. You truly touched my heart. :)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 11, 2004, 10:45:57 PM
...And to all a Bonne Nuit!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 11, 2004, 10:48:35 PM
Panni, yes, I get asked to cut all the time and then they keep making those suggestions for shit that just adds and adds.  It's very frustrating and schizophrenic.  But conflicting notes are de rigeur.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 11, 2004, 10:54:36 PM
... we were eating good at the Blue Moon (very yum!) and got home too late...
All right.  We weren't really planning on dining out, just going out for a drink while der Brucer recounted the day's grandladsitting.  We ended up at the Blue Moon, perhaps the top restaurant in Rehoboth Beach, only planning on cocktails.  But along the way der Brucer picked up a menu, and he began to smile as his eyes got wider and happier.

We stayed for dinner.

He started with a soup.  Yeah, right, a soup.  What's so great about soup, right?  This was a truffled butternut squash bisque, with herbed goat cheese.  I had a taste, and it was magnificent.  The bisque was full of butternut squash flavor, with just the right spicing to lift it.  The only thing wrong was the presentation, because it needed a little something on top to make it something different than a sea of deep orange, something like a few droplets of chive oil.

It was the only dish that was flawed in any way all evening.

My appetizer was a confit of buffalo osso bucco, served in a puff pastry shell, with fried leeks as a garnish.  We've had confits before that were heavy on the salt, but this was wonderfully meaty and not salty at all.  The textures of the puff pastry and fried leeks complimented the confit quite well.  And the buffalo flavor was very nice, stronger than beef but less fatty.

For my entree, I had a breast of duck in an apricot sauce, with wasabi mashed potatoes and sugar snap peas.  Absoulutely delicious, and I'm not normally an apricot fan, but this worked very well.  Der Brucer had a rack of lamb in a panko crust, with hericots verts and roasted garlic mashed taters.  He happily knawed on the bones.

And it was very pricy, but well worth the cost.  We were very happy with our meals.

What amazes me is how many fine restaurants are here in Rehoboth Beach.  We've had better dining experiences here than we regularly would have in Long Beach, or in the greater Los Angeles area.  And we've travelled a bit, sampling some of the best of cities around the United States.  Something tells me I'd better find work fast, because our appetites are far exceeding our budget!  That, and my own cooking is up to an interesting challenge, to be up to the area standard.

And I've got a lot of venison in the freezer downstairs, along with duck and other good vittles!  This is going to be a lot of fun!
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Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 11:12:43 PM
Well, if today is not proof that we are the jiggiest site on all the Internet then I don't know what is.  You are all very special people, and I am proud to have such Hainsies/Kimlets here at haineshisway.com.
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Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 11:19:04 PM
I'm back. Was doing bills and other boring stuff and lost another hour.
SWW - I'm SO hungry now -- and it's all your fault.

The TV is on in the BG - they're talking about the toxic danger at Beverly Hills High. I have a friend who's had thyroid cancer for years; his sister died of leukemia in her twenties -- and guess where they went to high school.
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Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 11:23:05 PM
You are all very special people, and I am proud to have such Hainsies/Kimlets here at haineshisway.com.
I agree totally with the sentiment. And of course it must mean that you no longer think I'm insane, dear proud bk, as I am one of the special people on this here site. Correct?
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Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 11:24:30 PM
It is possible to be insane and special at the same time.  Why don't you go get us some peanuts you big wazoo?
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Post by: Jed on February 11, 2004, 11:24:48 PM
Oh, there are plenty of insane special people, Panni!  Just look around this place some days! :D
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Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 11:25:07 PM
A sane g'night to you all. And this time I mean it.
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Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 11:27:44 PM
Damn them, damn them all to hell.  Did you see how she just ignored the part about the peanuts?
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Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 11:28:26 PM
Okay, having read that last two posts... An INsane good night to you all. and this time I really REALLY mean it. (Why is it "in"-sane. Shouldn't it be OUTsane. You're out of sanity. You are no longer in the area of sanity. Thus you are outsane. Makes perfect sense. G'night.
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Post by: Laura II on February 11, 2004, 11:29:40 PM
I have pictures! Yay! I may post some later.

I agree that we are a special group. You all mean a lot to me!
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Post by: Panni on February 11, 2004, 11:29:55 PM
Don't talk to me about peanuts. I'm trying not to think about peanuts. Anyway, I'm no longer here. I said goodnight. I'm gone.
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Post by: bk on February 11, 2004, 11:32:17 PM
Damn them, damn them all to hell.  I thought I had a shot at peanuts or at least the shells.  Now I'm shell shot.
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Post by: Laura II on February 11, 2004, 11:37:36 PM
Heroes in a half-shell! Turtle power!!