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Title: IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: bk on February 13, 2004, 12:02:51 AM
Well, you've read the all-important notes, so you know the all-important things contained therein, hence you know the all-important things you must post.  Hence, to it, I say.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Tomovoz on February 13, 2004, 12:40:56 AM
DVD: "Triplets Of Belville" about to be followed by the new "Peter Pan".
CDs: "Triplets of Belville", and because I have been compiling tracks for others - various CDs by Roy Orbison, Elvis Presley & Tom Jones.
VCR. 2003's "Royal Command Performance" from Edinborough (Ednaborough according to star Dame Edna). Not a particularly good show unless you really are thrilled at an Osmonds reunion!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: elmore3003 on February 13, 2004, 04:34:56 AM
BK, I understand your DSL concerns.  When I connected by DVD player to my tv, I ended up calling Panasonic customer service three times!.  On the last call, I happened to mention that my television was a Panasonic, that I'd had it for over ten years, loved it, and the customer service rep found the booklet for my television model and told me what was going wrong with my "viewing pleasure."  I always loved terms like that.  So, don't be afraid to bug DSL.

I mentioned that I loved the Encores! production of CAN-CAN, especially Patti Lupone, Charlotte D'Amboise (she's fantastic; we worked together on TONIGHT AT 8:30 for Williamstown), and Reg Rogers, but I forgot to mention how great some of the dances by Melinda Roy were.  I thought the Apache number was far too tame and cautious, but the Quadrille, Garden of Eden, and final Can-Can were wonderful, as was Lonny Price's direction.  I always thought the book sucked, but I think I was wrong:  I laughed myself silly! or sillier.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 04:46:57 AM
Ah DREmily - the new hairstyle is Faboo!  Go for it!  ;D

I only know CANCAN from the movie, which I liked musically - but I thought could have used MORE dancing....and a bit LESS Shirley.

MR BK - I myself alone installed my DSL...my problem I discovered when I called Comcast Service was that I was using Netscape and NOT Explorer.  Once that was settled, everything went well.  Just follow the instructions, and you should be in Fat City in just awhile.

In my DVD Player - Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde 1931 version....and it could have used the Berlin song from the notes, which I loved, BTW!

VCR - Saint Joan w/ Jean Seberg!  Up next Jeanne Eagels!

CD -  Babalu Music -Musical Moments from I Love Lucy!

Hopefully we will be able to work on and launch the NEW website for our summer theatre group - THIS WEEKEND....that is the plan....


Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 05:10:12 AM
Don't know yet what I'll be listening to at work today. This weekend, the long weekend of February for those of us with workaday jobs, we will be on the Isle of Long. We will watch the episodes of Sex and The City which I haven't seen since the long weekend of January (Ant's folks have HBO On Demand) and we will watch last night's episode of Two's Company.

I don't have DSL or high-speed cable. I would consider DSL but I have to find a provider who doesn't give you MSN. I would prefer not to have Microsoft. I know other DRs have Time Warner Cable as their high speed providers and report no problems and good service, but my experience with TWCNY (Time Warner Cable of New York City) is fraught with difficulty, mistrust and bad, bad experiences. My deep and abiding dislike of this monolithic, multinational embarrassament of a company precludes me from giving them any more money than I already give them each month. The idea that I would actually allow those (explitives) to have access to my computer makes me laugh hysterically. Therefore, when I make the move to high speed, I will do it through my phone line unless we move and get a new cable company (highly unlikely). OK, end of rant. Thanks for listening (or not) or skipping past if you were bored or didn't want to read it.

Back later with listening pleasures for the day.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 05:19:12 AM
BTW (by the way) loved the Irving Berlin Jekyll & Hyde lyrics.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 05:38:02 AM
I'm going to push my usual BBC connections. I'm listening to BBC Radio 2. They have a two-part documentary on Burt Bacharach. Part One (one hour) played Tuesday, February 10. It will be available on the site until February 17 when Part Two will be available (for one week through February 24). Here is the link to Part One. If you're a fan of BB, I think you'll enjoy it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/r2music/documentaries/burtbacharach.shtml
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Kerry on February 13, 2004, 06:08:51 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO KIM NOVAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I used to send her cards and drawings when I was a kid.  Maybe I should again.

Right now in the car, I'm playing a cd Of Mark Fuller's cabaret act and taking a Moonlight Swim with Tony Perkins (thanks to Tomovoz).  (This was the the time in his career when I was mad about Tony Perkins)

Last night, in my VCR, I was preparing to watch Surfside 6 (courtesy of MBarnum) but my VCR wouldn't let go of the tape that was in it, so i didn't want to take the chance of wrecking Surfside 6.   Will watch it this weekend though.  

Tomorrow DRs Sandra and Laura and I are driving to Palm Springs to see Jason Graae and Liz Callaway.  I finally get to see two of my favorites--- together in one place!!!!!!  AND i'm missing one of the busiest retail days of the year.  Not bad.  I have a feeling we'll be listening to JEEPERS CREEPERS and everything Jason Graae has ever done.

I go back to work on Sunday.   No three day weekends (let alone 4 day weekends for me).  My Wed and Thurs weekend was nice though.

In the DVD, we finished the first season of SOAP and aready to finish out the 4th season of the SOPRANOS.   Big difference between the two.  We got "Under the Tuscan Sun" yesterday, so maybe tonight I'll watch all the gorgeous scenery and gorgeous men and even the gorgeous Diane Lane.

JAY, got any suggestions for Palm Springs?  We'll have some time (if not hours) to spare.  You want to meet for lunch?
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Kerry on February 13, 2004, 06:10:48 AM
And Ben, where did  you get all your Weight Watchers info?   Surely YOU didn't go there-- as thin as you are.   And yes I know, quit callling you Shirley!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: William E. Lurie on February 13, 2004, 06:19:56 AM
JRand --- the movie of CAN CAN and the play (which I see tomorrow) are quite different.  The film drops many songs and adds a bunch of other Cole Porter numbers.  The main plot is substantially changed and the sub-plot  (with the Verdon character) is missing.

BK - Why didn't you use the J&H song on your wonderful "Unsung Irving Berlin" CD?

Last night I saw a reading of a new musical based on the life of Oscar Levant.  Since it's not really right to make too many comments on a reading I'll simply say that it was a great choice of subject matter that at this point doesn't do justice to the subject

CD - 2 from RHINO: DuBARRY WAS A LADY (with selections from MEET THE PEOPLE) and 3 LITTLE WORDS (with selections from YOLANDA AND THE THIEF).

DVD - the 2-sided Jeckyl & Hyde with the March version, the Tracy version and the Bugs Bunny version.  March does his mostly with make-up changes while Tracy does his mostry with acting (let's forget about Bugs).  March's is better directed by Mamoulian.  Tracy's female leads are in the wrong roles: Ingrid Bergman as the whore and Lana Turner as the lady would both be better in each other's roles.  What is interesting is that although there are different screenwriters credited, with a few variations the outlines are almost scene-for-scene the same and even some of the dialogue is similar.  But did you ever think you would see the day when Warner Bros. would be releasing a DVD with an MGM film and a Paramount film on it?

VHS - Nothing at the moment
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 06:24:25 AM
DR WEL - the studio names on the J/H disk were remarkable to me as well.  All these years later - the money still flows!  I prefer the March version....Miriam Hopkins is so wonderful!

DR KERRY - don't forget to stop by the lovely bronze Lucille Ball sitting on a park bench welcoming you to Palm Springs!!!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: William F. Orr on February 13, 2004, 06:24:46 AM
CD Player:  Sharon McNight (no K), "The Sophie Tucker Songbook".  Sharon is appearing at the Tilles Center out here on Long Island (thank you, Donna) tonight at 8 and 10.  The web site says she's sold out, but I am going to try to wrangle a ticket.

Upstairs VCR:  The Hugh Jackman Oklahoma!  It is so long.   Did someone here say they added scenes from Green Grow the Lilacs?  There are a lot of comedy bits I don't remember.  But I loved the "Oklahoma Hello".  I taped it off PBS (pledge week, of course), and it is fun listening to all the British actors speaking with their real voices after the Oklahoma dialect.

Jackman and others are really excellent for my money.  And I must say, this is the first time I've been moved by the title song since we had it force-fed to us in elementary school in Tulsa.

Downstairs VCR:  A couple of shlocky alien-invasion movies I taped from SciFi for Joe to vegetate in front of when he returns home.

I'm seeing Joe at 1:00 this afternoon and will care a big bag of vibes I've collected from this site over the last fiew days.  Thanks, guys.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Kerry on February 13, 2004, 06:57:21 AM
MattH:   feel better!

WFO:  Glad you get to see Joe.   Give him a virtual hug for me.   One for you too.

Jack:  I'll try to find the Lucy.  It is a bust or a statue?

Off the stretch these old bones and then get ready for work.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Matt H. on February 13, 2004, 07:27:20 AM
Shirley MacLaine said on her interview with Robert Osborne that Sinatra asked her which of the two roles in CAN-CAN she wanted - Lilo's or Verdon's. Shirley said she wanted both of them, so in the re-written version, she plays Pistache and does the dances that would have gone to Verdon's character. I have never liked the movie of CAN-CAN. The title dance is fine, but none of the other dancing is interesting, and I think the whole thing is miscast.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Matt H. on February 13, 2004, 07:30:48 AM
Thanks, DR Kerry. I feel well enough now to proceed with plans to go see CHAPTER TWO tonight and have dinner out with friends. Hope the improvement doesn't go downhill as the day progresses. As one who is almost never sick, it's very upsetting when one gets a bug, even a small one.


Media check:

CD - BARBRA STREISAND AND OTHER MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS

VCR - YOUNGBLOOD HAWKE (thanks to the ever-generous DR JRand)

laserdisc - IT'S ALWAYS FAIR WEATHER

DVD - FRIENDS - Season 6
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Matt H. on February 13, 2004, 07:32:09 AM
I am also about halfway through the novel WICKED. It is fascinating reading, and I am greatly enjoying it.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 13, 2004, 07:46:53 AM
Media check:

My poor office area is desperate for a makeover. I'm busily moving papers and will do as much as I can for the duration of the Darling of the Day CD.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: William E. Lurie on February 13, 2004, 07:56:48 AM
WFO - Yes... they added a few scenes from "Green Grow..." to the English OKLAHOMA! which added nothing to the show but running time.  Also one thing that surprised me was that they had Curley/Jackman smoking during "Surrey" and one other scene, something I'd never seen before in any production.

And I'm glad and surprised that Sharon McKnight is selling out her Sophie Tucker show on Long Island.  When she did it about two years ago at the York in Manhattan it did not sell and at one point they had to give tickets away.  It's a lot of fun, although I prefer McKnight as McKnight.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 08:01:15 AM
DR KERRY at the corner of North Palm Canyon and Tahquitz Canyon Way....Lucy sits, cast in bronze on a park bench....in front of Leed's Jewelers....you can pose with her for a picture!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Emily on February 13, 2004, 08:07:44 AM
Bad news.

The big new hairstyle turned out to be very very similar to the hair cut I have been getting for the last 12 years.

Okay - not the end of the world.  It's all the styling anyway.  

The only problem is that I can not for the life of me get one side of my hair to flip as it is supposed to.  One side is perfect - a wonderful obedient flip came almost immediately after starting the big procedure.

The other side is evil.  I am now trying rollers which keep falling out because, to quote my mother, I have bizarre hair.  

Bizarre doesn't even BEGIN to describe this.  :(
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 13, 2004, 08:15:45 AM
Before I read last night's late-night posts... Before I read today's BK's Notes... Before I read today's morning posts...

I have to apologize to DR MBarnum for not recording The Last Wagon as I promised him I would.

The timer was set.

The VCR was set to the right channel.

The TV was set to the right channel.

A new blank tape was put in the VCR.

I double-checked everything before I headed to bed.

And I even heard the VCR humming this morning when I woke up around 8:00 this morning.

But when I went to check the tape later, all that came up on the tape was a blank, blue screen.   ???

I fast-forwarded, I rewinded... but still, only a blank, blue screen.  ???

So, I'll check to see if THE LAST WAGON ever comes up on Cinemax and/or HBO and/or some other cable channel, and I'll try again.

In the meantime, I'm soooo sorry, DR MBarnum.  I hope this does not put a damper on your extended weekend. Well, at least you get a long weekend!  ;)
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: TCB on February 13, 2004, 08:30:56 AM
First, before I forget BK (as I did the last time you posted some of them), I loved your SS / ALW lyrics, as well as Mr. Berlin’s Jekyll and Hyde.  I can’t wait to read more of them.  Having seen the recent Broadway musical of J/H, I think I would have preferred seeing Mr. Berlin’s version.  Come to think of it, I think I would have preferred the Bugs Bunny version.  Still, I did find Mr. Robert Cuccioli to be a powerful stage presence.

This weekend is going to be DVD catch-up (or catsup or ketchup) time.  All those DVDs that have been stacked on my DVD player each week, only to be buried by new additions to my collection, are finally going to see the light of day or the day for night (a Truffaut reference).  Among the stack:

CHICAGO
THE OTHERS
ROSE RED
U-571
X-MEN II
TWO WEEKS NOTICE (it is never going to get played)

On my CD player at home is DR Ann’s recital CD, which I am very anxious to hear.

Finally, Where in tarnation is everybody???  The holiday weekend doesn't start until the end of the workday today.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Panni on February 13, 2004, 08:37:17 AM
Good morning. Funny lyrics, bk.
No one has mentioned that it's FRIDAY THE 13TH!!
Don't walk under any black cats, Dear Readers.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 08:45:07 AM
Enjoy the movies, DR MATT!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: JMK on February 13, 2004, 08:51:05 AM
I agree that the Bergman and Turner roles should have been switched in the Tracy Jekyll & Hyde--nice to see someone else say that!

Here's the stupid question of the day--is DSL the same as cable?  I'm wondering if I would save money installing cable for internet, as we have a second phone line just for the computer.

In my DVD player:  Sunday in the Park With George.  I'm sorry people, I have an intellectual appreciation for this piece, but it just does NOT move me in any way, shape or form.  I keep watching it hoping my opinion will change, but, sadly, it doesn't.  I humbly apologize.

In my CD player:  a lovely CD of medieval French music.  I love early music, especially first thing in the morning, when it is truly "early."

Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 13, 2004, 08:53:12 AM
Good Morning!

-I'm soooo sorry, DR MBarnum.

Well, I've read last night's late night posts, and today's BK's Notes, and this morning's posts so far...

Love the Berlin J&K lyrics!

DR WFO - My best to you, and my best to Joe.

Media check:  Surprisingly nothing yet this week in any of my players.  -I've been listening to a lot of NPR this week, and enjoying watching some of the prime time TV offerings in their first run for a change!

Oh, wait, I do have a tape in my VCR - but, unfortunately, all it plays is a blank, blue screen.

-I'm sooo sorrry, DR MBarnum.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 08:56:02 AM
DR JMK - DSL is a direct subscriber line used with a cable modem.  And I did find that the cost was very comparable to the computer-only phone line that I had for dial up and is MUCH faster.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: bk on February 13, 2004, 09:02:30 AM
Well, apparently I won't have DSL today.  It was supposed to be today, but it got bumped to the 17th for reasons which no one at SBC or DSL can tell me.  Ridiculous.  So, I guess I'll have DSL on Tuesday.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 13, 2004, 09:05:09 AM
DR JMK - DSL is not the same as having a cable modem.  DSL runs with/thru/besides your existing phone line.  With the proper set up, you can have an "always on" internet connection, and still be able to use your phone line at the same time.  Some providers even have "internet call waiting" - a screen will pop up on your screen alerting you to a call.  You can either choose to forward the call to voice mail, answer it, or ignore it altogether.  Since you are currently using a second phone line, it may be worth your while to see if you can consolidate back to one phone line that covers your phone and internet service.

-Oh, DSL is fast, but cable modems tend to be a lot faster.  However, depending upon how much and what kind of stuff you download, the speed issue may not be much of an issue.

And, on a plus side - since DSL is not hooked up to a larger public network like cable is, DSL is less prone to hackers and hacking.  At least that's what I've read.  ??? And DSL is definitely a lot cheaper than cable.

And no need to apologize for Sunday In The Park With George - even though I happen to be very moved by the piece.  But I will admit that the tape/DVD of the Broadway production can seem a bit flat at times.  Have you seen the show live?

Oh, have I mentioned that I'm sooo sorry, DR MBarnum?
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Noel on February 13, 2004, 09:08:36 AM
So much to comment on!

George wrote, yesterday
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Sometimes I wonder if people write songs for shows write songs, not just to try and be pop-u-lar (a Wicked reference), but with the idea that it might be a good audition song and it can become much more popular with theater performers, who in turn will record the songs, sing the songs in cabaret performances, etc.

There's a song in the musical I'm writing now, A Song That Shows Range, that is being done in auditions.  Which makes sense, since it's an audition in the show.  But I'm not sure the audition in the show really needs to be seen, so it may get cut.

Musical theatre writers (if they're good) write for the character, situation and plot and don't think about how the songs might be used outside of the show.  The show's the thing.

Last night's cabaret went extremely well.  I always love it when an audience that's hearing musical comedy material for the first time does what the authors hoped and laughs uproariously.  After School Special, Pretty Young Men, Bluer Than You, Miss Byrd, The Boy From..., The Girl in 14G and Glitter and Be Gay all delivered the yoks.  It was a grueling day, as I was given no opportunity to leave the piano bench from 11:20 to 6 p.m., but then got an hour-long dinner break before playing the show.

Which brings us to the media check.  Hardest to play of all was the particuarly ridiculous arrangement of Shall We Dance from Crazy For You.  I don't know who did the dance arrangement but this person and choreographer Susan Stroman saw some need to jazz up George Gershwin.  So this thing keeps changing tempos without mercy.  I had two fine violinists playing behind me who brilliantly went with the flow.  If you can call it a flow.

So one of the CDs is the Crazy For You cast album, and it's wholly unlistenable.  It's not just the voices, it's the misconception of almost every number.  George and Ira wrote the title tune as K-ra-zy For You.  The entire point of the song is that love has made the character lose their grip on language, and so a simple word like crazy is stretched into three syllables.  Except it's never done that way in this musical called Crazy For You, so the whole bridge about "love may not inspire my lingo" makes no earthly sense.

On the brighter side of the CD player is the delightful Prime Time Musicals - one of BK's favorites that he's done, and I can see why.  Some very good songs there, wonderfully rendered, and an entire genre (the musical written for television) finally gets notice.  I'm very glad to have this.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Emily on February 13, 2004, 09:28:42 AM
Both sides of my hair are now refusing to flip.

Instead of pretty, fantastically wonderful hair I have adequate, satisfactorially boring hair.

This is, pardon the pun, flippin' annoying.  :(
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 09:49:02 AM
Ou et tous les personnnes qui ecrit ici??? (Fractured French I'm sure)
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: TCB on February 13, 2004, 09:52:47 AM
JMK -- I'm with you when it comes to Sunday in the Park with George.  That is the unnamed Sondheim show I mentioned earlier this week as being the one show of his that I do not like.  At the anniversary GALA in March, we are closing with Sunday, which with all twenty-eight artists singing the parts, sounds really spectacular (but I still don't like the show).
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: William E. Lurie on February 13, 2004, 09:55:31 AM
I just read that Mattel is breaking up Barbie & Ken and Barbie's new boyfriend will be "Australian Beach Bum Blaine".   Obviously the doll's sales have been slowing down and they hope that this will help sales and open a new market in Australia (Tomofov - are you getting a Blaine doll?).  Look for Barbie and Ken to get back together the next time sales slow down.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Noel on February 13, 2004, 10:00:05 AM
Sunday In The Park With George - even though I happen to be very moved by the piece.  But I will admit that the tape/DVD of the Broadway production can seem a bit flat at times.  Have you seen the show live?

I agree, Jose: Sunday in the Park With George was one of the most moving experiences I've had in the theatre.  But when you dare to suggest, Jose, that a musical is best enjoyed live (as authors Lupine and Sondheim intended it to be enjoyed) you're risking being called elite and a huge essay on how there's no good food in New York.  Careful!   ::)
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 13, 2004, 10:01:47 AM
Hmmm... Friday the 13th, and a VCR that taped, but didn't tape... Hmmm...

<cue spooky music>

-At least it's a beautifully sunny day here in Richmond - the weekend is looking nice too!  We're in the mid-50s!

OH!  The show I did some "last minute emergency" work for about two weeks ago here in Richmond, opened last weekend.  The show is "The Last Session".  Well, the reviews - all two so far - have been... well... kind to put it kindly.  However, here's the first paragraph of the one that appeared on gayrichmond.com.  The second sentence is a keeper!

"Shon M. Stacy gives voice to Gideon in the musical The Last Session at Fielden's Cabaret Theatre. With Stacy's singing, one can only hope it truly is the last session. On the other hand, the performance of young VCU theater major Matt Shofner (Buddy) in this latest Richmond Triangle Players (RTP) production suggests the beginning of an impressive career."

Ouch!  Unfortunately, the title of the show more or less sets up that kind of review.  At least none of the reviews mention "my" piano playing. ;)
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 13, 2004, 10:07:19 AM
I agree, Jose: Sunday in the Park With George was one of the most moving experiences I've had in the theatre.  But when you dare to suggest, Jose, that a musical is best enjoyed live (as authors Lupine and Sondheim intended it to be enjoyed) you're risking being called elite and a huge essay on how there's no good food in New York.  Careful!   ::)

Gotcha ;)

However, I greatly enjoy the record/CD of the show more than I do the video/DVD.  When I was in college, I would play the OCR before any major concert, recital, etc... while I was getting ready, cleaning, etc. in my apartment.  -And the stories of how fast(!) Mandy wanted to take "Putting It Together" in the studio... WOW!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: bk on February 13, 2004, 10:10:47 AM
DSL update.  I called the phone company back, because I wanted someone to give me a reason the date was pushed, and I got a great gal on the line who kicked some butt and now I'll have it tomorrow morning, as long as the testing on the line is through (that's why it was pushed initially, we found out) - I had a tech support gal helping and she confirmed it would be up tomorrow morning (really midnight tonight).  So, I'll call tech support back then and they'll help me finish (we were almost through doing the installation and I've left everything plugged in).  One interesting thing is that my laptop is not "bound" to TCP/IP or something, so I have to use the Eternet card they supplied.  If anyone has a Dell laptop and IS "bound" let me know if that's something that's easy to do.  It would be much nicer-looking to have the yellow ethernet plug go directly into the computer rather than the card sticking out.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jennifer on February 13, 2004, 10:18:27 AM
Ou et tous les personnnes qui ecrit ici??? (Fractured French I'm sure)

Good try :)

(being serious)

"Et" means and.  You meant "est".

And "ou" means or.  The one with the accent grave means where (but I don't remember which key gets you that).

I won't  correct anything else.

Btw, I did pilates yesterday and today.Yeah for exercising!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 13, 2004, 10:22:21 AM
BK - Where exactly is the card sticking out?  Sounds to me like your motherboard/tower doesn't have an internal card that has and ethernet connector.  You can buy an internal ethernet card, but then you would have to install said ethernet card.  And depending upon which "generation" of computer you have, that may or may not be possible.

*The Dell site should be able to give you some specs once you input your model number.

So, that was helpful, wasn't it?!?!?

Well, I'm off to do some laundry... Be back later.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 13, 2004, 10:24:05 AM
All this internet technology discussion makes me want to crawl into a fetal ball.  I'll never catch up with technology.

I'm too heavy in throes of re-writes to watch or listen to anything.  

Ben, I love listening to the BBC radio on the internet.  I'm particularly fond of BBC4 which has lots of drama and talk and comedy on, which you can listen to at any time.  My favs are the comedy game show JUST A MINUTE...particularly whenever Paul Merton or Clement Freud are on.  THE 99P CHALLENGE, THE NEWS QUIZ (I stay pretty up to date with the British news), CONCRETE COW, BOOTHBY GRAFFOE, so many others...
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 10:32:14 AM
Jennifer, thanks for the help. So the whole sentence was fractured, is that what you're kindly trying to say?  ;)

I knew there were mistakes, just couldn't remember what they were. I don't have occasion to speak French very often and while some of the words remain in my brain, they don't always come out the way they are supposed to. I always forget the ASCII key combo for the accent. Tenses are also a problem for me. I could always speak decently in present tense, but past tense or future tense made my mind into mush.
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Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 10:39:40 AM
I found an ASCII table to put accent grave on a u

It's alt 151



 :D
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 10:59:46 AM
DR BEN my CD's came today!  Thanks!  I have something exciting to listen to this evening!!!
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 11:02:55 AM
There is a difference between elite and smug.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 13, 2004, 11:14:00 AM
Speaking of great British radio shows, there were two comedy quiz shows that I listened to intermittently over the years since college, MY WORD & MY MUSIC, both panels of which were anchored by those two droll raconteurs, Frank Muir and Dennis Norden.  Though they haven't been on the air for years, Public Radio used to play repeats of the shows on various outlets all the time.  They were funded locally out here for years by David Hockney.  Very witty and erudite.  

My Word always ended with Muir and Norden having to give their versions of how famous phrases came into being, which usually resulted in outrageous puns as the punchline.  One I remember was the origin of "Wait Till the Sun Shines, Nelly"...which became a very funny, long, convuluted story about a trip that Byron and Shelly were taking in Europe and finally as they were checking into a hotel Shelly brushed past a nun, whereupon Byron held him back and said, "Wait till the nun signs, Shelly."
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Post by: Jennifer on February 13, 2004, 11:21:44 AM
Jennifer, thanks for the help. So the whole sentence was fractured, is that what you're kindly trying to say?  ;)

I knew there were mistakes, just couldn't remember what they were. I don't have occasion to speak French very often and while some of the words remain in my brain, they don't always come out the way they are supposed to. I always forget the ASCII key combo for the accent. Tenses are also a problem for me. I could always speak decently in present tense, but past tense or future tense made my mind into mush.

Actually I wasn't trying to make you feel bad, which is why I stopped. I thought it was sweet that you tried to write it in French. And I understood it. So it must have been good.

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Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 11:26:21 AM
I won't groan. I won't groan. I won't groan.

I do love British comedy radio shows. We don't have much to compare them to over here. We have some comic shows on NPR, like Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from Chicago Public Radio and Says You, from Boston but they are the exception. The great entertainment that radio can provide ebbs away daily. It's just more shock jocks and news ranting and the same Top 40 schlock over and over with a few outposts holding on. Ah, well.

The punch line to CPs post reminds me of the punch line to another shaggy dog story (how did long convoluted stories get that name anyway). Not as funny as Shelly, but it pops into mind anyway.

"If the foo sh*ts, wear it."

Also,

"Silly Rabbi, Kicks are for Trids"

and finally,

"With fronds like these, who needs anemones"
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 11:27:21 AM
"And maybe we can find a banana for your monkey."
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 11:27:38 AM
"Mom is on the roof and we can't get her down."
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Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 11:31:18 AM
Oh, I knew you weren't trying to make me feel bad. I appreciate the help. I need to get at least to Montreal, if not back to France (after a crash course in catch-up French) so I can actually speak and understand or to listen and to speak which is the literal translation of my first French textbook in 7th grade. Ecouter et Parler
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Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 11:33:30 AM
I know the mom on the roof story but I forget the banana for your monkey joke. I'm sure if I google that it will come in.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 11:36:29 AM
Woman with a baby gets on a train....sits next to a man....man keeps telling her that her baby is ugly...woman calls conductor....complains...conductor offers her a better seat....and then tells her.....
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Post by: Panni on February 13, 2004, 11:55:53 AM
My favs are the comedy game show JUST A MINUTE...particularly whenever Paul Merton or Clement Freud are on.
I used to listen to that in Canada! Loved it.
You think you're behind technically? -- I don't know how to listen to radio programs on my computer. Never tried, maybe I can't. I'm in the middle of rewrites, too. Trying to figure out how to keep the stuff they've asked me to add - which has put another 15 minutes into the story - at the same time that I'm supposed to cut 15 minutes. Hmmm. It's a puzzlement. (A King and I reference)
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 11:58:34 AM
Just be careful of your arc and journey DRPANNI!
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 11:59:01 AM
Oh and don't forget your backstory.
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Post by: Panni on February 13, 2004, 11:59:40 AM
Now I'm wondering... Was that show I like called JUST A MINUTE? Who knows? Anyway, Clement Freud was on it and I need to get back to work.
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Post by: Panni on February 13, 2004, 12:00:55 PM
Thank you for the arc, journey and backstory reminders, JRand 53. ...Now where did I put that gun?....
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 12:02:17 PM
Someone should tell them that this ISN'T the answer to everything.

It's like that exercise they gave in a playwrighting course when everyone had to write a play that had a mattress, a bottle of ketchup, and a Bible in it.   >:(

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Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 12:02:54 PM
Ouch!  I been shot!
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Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 12:06:09 PM

Bruce we wish we could get DSL here.  :( You should be very happy with it. :)

DVD: “American Splendor”
TIVO: The Westminster Dog Show
CD: Perry Como
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 13, 2004, 12:07:00 PM
SITPWG: Rarely play the CD, quite like the DVD but have loved the show staged. The first Act is "cold" (I assume it is meant to be) but in the second Act there is "more life in his art". Would I have been so moved by the scenes on the "return" of the characters to the island had I not felt something before? Probably not. BTW, I love "Passion" too. I prefer both to ITW which is "clever" but to me not involving. "Assassins" is the show I most want to see again.
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Post by: TCB on February 13, 2004, 12:08:10 PM
Someone should tell them that this ISN'T the answer to everything.

It's like that exercise they gave in a playwrighting course when everyone had to write a play that had a mattress, a bottle of ketchup, and a Bible in it.   >:(



Oh!  You mean it's been done before?
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Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 12:10:09 PM
BTW (by the way) loved the Irving Berlin Jekyll & Hyde lyrics.

Sorry, I fogot to mention the same thing.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 12:11:59 PM
Not to worry Jose, I would think the movie will be repeated! But thank you very much for trying!  :D

Media check:

DVD: Gale Storm and Mantan Moreland in a 1942 poverty row piece of fluff called FRECKLES COMES HOME. Gale is particurly cute and quite young! She even sings a song with Johnny Downs.

Also watching THE COMPLETE WEIRD CARTOONS which is a collection of vintage cartoons, some of which are very weird! A couple of the Disney Alice live action/cartoons from the early 20s, some Betty Boop, Little Black Sambo, and some stop motion animation shorts from the early 1930 that are quite odd, but well done and imaginative. A very interesting DVD which I recommend.

CD: A couple of current versions of Babes In Toyland courtesy of our newest DR Larry Moore. And of course various Bollywood soundtracks courtesy of my Visa card! LOL!
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Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 12:12:27 PM
JR, enjoy the CDs. I like both of them very much. As long as you keep them in their envelopes with their books you should be able to tell which one is which without playing each one  ;)
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 13, 2004, 12:17:07 PM
"Pardon me, Roy, is that the cat that chewed your new shoes?"

"Knick-knacks, Patty Black, give the frog a loan."

Panni, if you have speakers on your computer and have REAL PLAYER installed, you should be able to listen to internet radio.  Do you listen to the radio show here on Haineshisway.com?  If so, I'm sure you're able to listen to most internet shows.  If so, go to BBC Radio 4's homepage...and you will see all the shows available for listening (They usually has a big button to click on that says "Listen").  

Clement Freud has been a staple of many raconteur type shows.  I remember him on Jack Parr's shows.  JUST A MINUTE is a panel show (usually filled with British wits likes of Paul Merton, Freud, Graham Norton, Stephen Fry, Sandy Tovskig, others) where you have to speak on a topic for a minute without hesitation, deviation, or repetition.  Very fast and funny.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 13, 2004, 12:17:26 PM
After my post above I attempted to write fascinating information about the wonders of DSL. When I attempted to "post" I discovered I had "logged out". Very odd as I had not logged on for the first post or logged off! I shall return to bed to ponder the situation. (Leave it alone TCB)
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 12:17:38 PM
Oh DR BEN - I am a Virgo, they will be kept in their individual envelopes in alphabetical order like all my others.
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Post by: Jennifer on February 13, 2004, 12:20:42 PM
DR Jane (or anyone else who has seen it): How is American Splendor?
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Post by: TCB on February 13, 2004, 12:20:44 PM
Some monk chanted evening.
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Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 12:24:12 PM

No one has mentioned that it's FRIDAY THE 13TH!!

That explains my day so far!    ;D
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Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 12:24:55 PM
I'm not a Virgo, but I do that very same thing, ignoring the laughs and taunts of my less organized friends. 8)

Love the Roy Rogers joke. Never heard the Give the Frog a Loan joke. I'll have to look for it.

Graham Norton and Stephen Fry are wonderful. While in England I finally got to see GN on the telly. Boy, the things they get away with on English TV. The whole Janet Jackson brouhaha wouldn't have happened over there.
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Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 12:28:09 PM
I just found the Give the Frog a Loan joke. Groan. Oops (spoo), I take it back. I can't do that here :-)
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Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 12:32:52 PM
"Mom is on the roof and we can't get her down."

LOL.  Keith & I have often used that line.  I don't know the banana one.
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Post by: bk on February 13, 2004, 12:33:24 PM
Pogue: Being in the throes is much better than being in the throws.

Just got my new galley online, and it looks like they made all the last set of corrections correctly and a quick glance seems like this might just be the one I'll finally be able to approve.  I'll do my usual page by page as soon as I return from an errand.  Digits crossed.
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Post by: Emily on February 13, 2004, 12:33:43 PM
Jennifer, AMERICAN SPLENDOUR is very very interesting.  And entertaining.

I love the way the real characters merge with the actors throughout the movie.  
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Post by: Matt H. on February 13, 2004, 12:39:55 PM
No need to apologize about not getting SUNDAY IN THE PARK WITH GEORGE. I'm sure Sondheim and Lapine knew the piece wouldn't be for everyone. I think it's a beautiful, exceptionally moving exploration on the nature and etheral quality of art, but guess what? There are LOTS of popular works of film, theater, literature, and art that I don't get.

That's life. That's art. That's entertainment!
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Post by: Ben on February 13, 2004, 12:39:56 PM
Jane, the joke involves an unattractive child. Here is the quick and dirty version courtesy of JR from page 2 of today's posts:

"Woman with a baby gets on a train....sits next to a man....man keeps telling her that her baby is ugly...woman calls conductor....complains...conductor offers her a better seat....and then tells her....."

"Maybe we can find a banana for your monkey"
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Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 12:41:17 PM
WFO I hope you had a nice visit with Joe.  It must be difficult.  How is he?

Emily, can you return to the hairstylist for instructions?  I currently have a hairstyle I’m very happy with, when I have it done.  It never comes out the same when I do it.  It is only the first day, you may still get the knack of styling it.  

Oh yes, I remember the banana one now.

Jennifer, at first I didn’t care for American Splendor but slowly became engrossed in this quirky movie.  

Bruce, digits are crossed.-hope this is it. :)
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Post by: TCB on February 13, 2004, 12:41:26 PM
Does anyone have any exciting and romantic plans for Valentine's Day tomorrow?

Personally, I thought I would cook myself a nice romantic candle-lit dinner, and then see if I can get lucky.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 13, 2004, 12:55:50 PM
We watched the new version of "Peter Pan" last night. Most enjoyable and amazing how much you can do without spending the $ that Spielberg did with his "take" on the story. Quibble: Peter has an American accent which is at odds with the other voices in the cast. Maybe they can do a remake of Huck Finn and give him a Scouse accent to even it up.
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Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 12:57:07 PM
TCB-LOL :D
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Post by: TCB on February 13, 2004, 01:00:07 PM
We watched the new version of "Peter Pan" last night. Most enjoyable and amazing how much you can do without spending the $ that Spielberg did with his "take" on the story. Quibble: Peter has an American accent which is at odds with the other voices in the cast. Maybe they can do a remake of Huck Finn and give him a Scouse accent to even it up.

An American accent?  Actually, I think I would prefer that Peter have no accent at all, so that he would be more of an every-boy.  I would much prefer that over Cathy Rigby's British accent which I found to be distracting.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 01:02:09 PM
Mmmmm...just returned from the Donut place with a couple of chocolate frosted cake donuts and a huge cup of coffee! Life is good!

Ok, I have a confession to make...I am a closet smoker! Yes, you heard it here first! I am a closet smoker! I used to be a pack a day smoker from age 18 ( I still remember well my first cigarrette. Picked up a pack of Bel Airs on my way home from work in Ashland. Smoked the whole pack that night at my dad and stepmoms house). Well I quite smoking about 6 years ago at age 34, but two years ago I started smoking again. It was a stressful time as I had just purchased my first house and my father had passed away. Over  the last two years I have snuck cigarettes every now and then...couldn't help myself. Now it is out of hand and I must stop totally! I love a cigarette now and then but it is a terrible habit and it tends to make me feel just awful the next day. So after I finish the couple of cigs that I have stashed away I am done for good, hopefully. I have tried to stop quite a few times over the last year or so but always break down and have one or two or three! Yikes! No one knows but you DRs! My family would be quite angry if they found out  and even some of my friends have no idea! So there you. My confession. I feel much better now, and knowing that HHW is a non-smoking sight (or so it seems) it might help to clear my conscience. So this weekend I will try to cleans my body of the terrible toxins! Wish me luck! I will try to not be too grumpy!
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Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 01:04:27 PM
I have no Valentine's day plans as far as I know. George from the coast is my potential future Valentine but we aren't at that point yet. So if I get lucky, it will be on my own!  8)
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Post by: Panni on February 13, 2004, 01:06:44 PM
Jrand 53 - I must watch my temper. I hope it's only a flesh wound.

FS Pogue - Yes, that's the radio program. I'm going to print out your instructions and see what I've got when I get through this draft.

Funny, TCB.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on February 13, 2004, 01:06:58 PM
For Valentine's Day it's a double feature with a dinner in between.

Ms. Patti LuPone in Encores!'s CAN CAN is in the afternoon (complete with the discussion group after which is usually as interesting as the show).  Then in the evening it's off to Film Forum to see "Umbrellas of Cherbourg".  As much as I love that film on DVD, it's one of those movies that's even better in a theatre surrounded by half an audience crying as much as I am and half an audience in hysterics.

I'll never forget years ago I had a friend with a model railroad.  He got a gas station for his set up that was very similar to the one in UOC, and one time when I came over he put on the soundtrack while he slowly dropped powdered sugar on the gas station to emulate the film's climax.  Unfortunately he couldn't get Ms. Denuve to come over in her mink.

By the way, while typing the above I began to wonder where to put the 's on a plural word that ends in !.  Should it be Encores!'s, Encore!'s, Encores!' or what?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 13, 2004, 01:07:11 PM
If I have never said how much I appreciate the "modify" feature here at HHW, let me do so now.  I really appreciate the "modify" feature here at HHW.  It's so nice to be able to go back and correct all my dsylexic, synapse-misfiring, sloppy typing.  I just took Clement Freud out of the "stable" of raconteur type shows...and made him a "staple" of them.
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Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 01:07:42 PM
We are in the beginning stage of planning stage our trip to Eastern Europe in June.  Keith’s aunt just sent us brochures from her trip to Prague and it is obvious we won’t have has much time there as we would like.  As it is we won’t be going to Romania.  Our son will meet us along our travels, possibly in Budapest.
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Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 01:12:09 PM
MBarnum good luck!  Feel free to vent here when you get edgy-just kick the habit.  Oh, I won’t tell Alan next time I see him.  ;)
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Post by: Matt H. on February 13, 2004, 01:21:40 PM
Good luck and strong vibes for quitting, DR MBarnum. It IS a filthy habit (sorry but it does turn my stomach just thinking about it or being around it, and BOTH my parents were smokers), and you'll feel so much better once you've stopped.

But I know how hard quitting is going to be. One of my dearest friends has tried to stop several times, and after putting 20 or so pounds on, always goes back to it. He hasn't stopped yet.
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Post by: Robin on February 13, 2004, 01:31:48 PM
DR Jane (or anyone else who has seen it): How is American Splendor?

It's probably my favorite movie of 2003.

No, I lied.  

It IS my favorite movie of 2003.  It inspired me to read his comic books; and without any hesitation, I can say that Harvey Pekar is a national treasure.  And probably a genius.  

Which brings me to the weekly media check:

In the deeveedee player: American Splendor and Perfect Blue.  I'm not really into the annie-may thing, but there are a number of them that are quite good.  Like Perfect Blue.

In the ceedee player: The Triplets of Belleville by Mr. Ben Charest, Fantastic Voyage by one of my favorite film composers, Mr. Leonard Rosenman, and The Robe by Alfred Newman.  (Surprisingly, Varese Sarabande has sold out this title...I say surprisingly, since the score has already been released on CD twice previously, so I didn't think there was an audience willing to buy it yet again.  Or maybe I shouldn't be so surprised, since this is the third time I bought it.)  

As to what the Significant Other and I are doing this Valentine's Day...road trip to Betty's Pies!!!  It's a little restaurant north of Duluth, Minnesota on the shores of Lake Superior.  And who would have guessed from the name, but she has the most delicious pies on the face of the earth.  It's worth the three-hour drive...six hours round trip!...just for her wonderful, wonderful confections...!
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Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 01:37:01 PM
Oh, Jane you will have such a wonderful trip! I am envious! What sights you will see and what foods you will eat!

Thank you Jane and Matth for the kicking the habit support! I actually had not trouble quitting last time. And yes I will feel better. It really has played havoc with my working out at the gym. One can simply not have a lung full of cig smoke and work out, at least not at my age! And I really need to get back to working out on a regular basis. I once had a pretty nice build, if I do say so myself, and now it is getting that middle age spread...and it is spreading fast!

Yesterday I spent a good two hours cleaning up my computer work area and came across this cute pic of my mom and dad. This might be a wedding picture (second marriage for both). Aren't they sweet! Of course it was a shot gun wedding, but oh well!

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Post by: TCB on February 13, 2004, 01:38:50 PM
DR MBarnum – I think it takes a great deal of courage to make such a confession to all of your friends here.  After all, PCs do not yet possess the sense of smell, so you could have easily just gone about your business without any of us ever knowing about your habit.  The fact that you told us, not only says that you trust us, but that you have a true desire to quit and are seeking our support during a very difficult period of withdrawal.

Personally, I smoked over two packs of cigarettes a day for over twenty-five years, so I understand the cravings associated with smoking, both physical and mental.  The worst thing you can do is to convince yourself that you are just going to have one (either puff or cigarette).  There is no such thing as just one.  When you say quit, you have to mean it.  I quit nine years ago this week, and no matter how many times I have wanted to break down and have just one, I have resisted the urge.  They say that nicotine cravings only last a total of thirty to forty-five seconds at a time before they dissipate.  If you can get through that one minute of craving, then it makes you a little bit stronger, so that you can move on to the next one.  For me, quitting smoking was harder than getting sober.  Not the initial quitting, but the staying away from the cigarettes.  I used the patch (the three-stage kind) and it was the only thing that I think would have ever gotten me through it.

Just remember, that we are all here for you.  Vent, scream, cuss, but don’t smoke.  All the best to you, Michael, and if you need something to help take your mind off your cravings, just let me know and I will be happy to drive down there!  :-*
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Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 01:41:29 PM
And here I am in the parking lot of our hotel in Anaheim during my September trip to L.A. I keep meaning to post photos of it, but always forget. Found this during my clean-up yesterday too. I think we were just about to head up to the Oaks of Sherman for our lunch with Laurie and Diana and the E&T BK.
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Post by: Jed on February 13, 2004, 01:44:23 PM
The punch line to CPs post reminds me of the punch line to another shaggy dog story (how did long convoluted stories get that name anyway). Not as funny as Shelly, but it pops into mind anyway.

"If the foo sh*ts, wear it."

Haha!  Been awhile since I heard that one, which happens to be my very own mother's favorite joke! :D
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Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 01:47:04 PM
Thank you TCB for you support. I try to ignore the cravings but I seem to have very little self control anymore! LOL!

But I am quite sure this time it will work. I used the patches last time also and they really do work well! I will be using them again this time.

Well, I must go and finish watching my DVD of Kabli Khan with the lovely dancing of Helen and the sword and sandal antics of Ajit and Samson (why do so many Indian actors have only one name???).
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Post by: Donald on February 13, 2004, 01:57:07 PM
Hello All!

Firstly, I wanted to thank Noel Katz for the wonderful phone interview we did this morning -- it will be airing this Sunday

Secondly, I wanted to pass on the news (from one of my best sources) that Never Gonna Dance will probably be getting a cast recording afterall.  Not sure of the label yet, but apparently, the producers are putting up the money to record the show in the hopes that it will spur future productions (much like the Amour situation last year).  It's possible that they may not record until after the show closes.  I'll keep you all posted as I learn more details.

Thirdly, the Broadway Radio Show for next weekend will focus on the new CD of Sherry! as I interview one of the original Broadway cast members, who, I am sure. will give us lots of dishy backstage stories.

Donald
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 13, 2004, 02:10:00 PM
Hmmm... So no plans for Valentine's Day,  DR MBarnum... Well, I think I have an e-fare special to Portland I could take advantage of this weekend... Or is there a closer aiport to fly into? ;)

-It's the least I could do for the VCR snafu! ;)

Btw, nice pic!

And since it's "confession" time, I might as well confess that I haven't started my "diet" yet.  However, the amount of junk I've been consuming has declined over the past few days, but I'm just not "feeling it" yet.  The last time I started a program, I literally woke up one morning, and something in my head said, "This is the day!".  And it was.  I just haven't woke up with that feeling yet.  But my fridge and cupboard are slowly being overtaken with "good foods", so maybe once the "bad foods" are gone...

-Sorry, DR Danise.  It's not even a matter of not trying... or even failing at this point... Like I said, I'm just not feeling it right now.

But I am very proud of your progress so far!  Onward and upward! -Well, downward on the scales and measuring tape!

Oh, and, btw, I'm soooo sorry, DR MBarnum!

-And did I mention, Nice Pic, Michael!

:)
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Post by: Jed on February 13, 2004, 02:14:22 PM
MBarnum - Best wishes in this mission of yours!  Now if I could just get my non-TCB father to do the same... but, after 40 years of smoking, I'm none too optimistic there.

I just discovered JUST A MINUTE on BBCRadio 4 earlier this week.  Quite fun.

Media check...
DVD - empty
VCR - Clue
CDs - Shenandoah OBC, AFTHOTWTTForum... in Jazz, Floyd Collins, A Little Night Music, The First Nudie Musical DVD's bonus CD
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: TCB on February 13, 2004, 02:18:58 PM
Does anyone have any idea what has happened to DR Jason?  I don't believe I have seen him here in a couple of weeks.  Is he out of town?  Sick?  Upset?  Just too damn busy to care?
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 13, 2004, 02:25:39 PM
DR MBarnum (again) - That's a great pic of your mom and dad.  Now we know where your good looks come from.  -Shot gun wedding?  Did I miss something?
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 13, 2004, 02:27:46 PM
Does anyone have any idea what has happened to DR Jason?  I don't believe I have seen him here in a couple of weeks.  Is he out of town?  Sick?  Upset?  Just too damn busy to care?

Well, DR Jason is just too damn busy period right now.  He cares.  He's just too damn busy.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: S. Woody White on February 13, 2004, 02:29:45 PM
There isn't much in the playing mode right now.  We're still sorting out everything that's arrived, and there's a lot of things that haven't arrived.  

However, we've now set up der Brucer's computer in his study, and my computer in my room.  This has cleared a lot of space on the counter dividing the kitchen and the dining room.

Buster has decided it's fun to poke his head out from underneath my bed and grin at me.

Now, along with deciding which sets of plates really belong in the kitchen (and which can be stored downstairs), I've got to decide how to set up my bookcase shelves, and what books belong in my room (and which don't).

And we've got to head downtown, to get tix for the Valentine's Bingo Party that's being held as a fundraiser for several local groups tomorrow night.

I'll be catching up on everything later.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Panni on February 13, 2004, 02:37:05 PM
Good luck, MBarnum! I think it's great you "confessed". Now you are no longer alone in trying to quit, but have a whole community of terrific people to support you.

FS Pogue - Yes, the Modify feature is a great one. Although I rather like the image of Clement Freud in a stable. No room at the inn.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 02:37:46 PM
Oh, Jane you will have such a wonderful trip! I am envious! What sights you will see and what foods you will eat!

Have you been there?  What wonderful (vegetarian) foods will I eat?
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Panni on February 13, 2004, 02:39:51 PM
Jane - Good luck with trying to be a vegetarian in Hungary. Even the carrots are made out of pork.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: TCB on February 13, 2004, 02:44:38 PM
Jane - Good luck with trying to be a vegetarian in Hungary. Even the carrots are made out of pork.

Oh my God, Panni, you are too funny!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Tomovoz on February 13, 2004, 02:47:13 PM
DR Jane. I think Prague would have to be close to my favourite city in the world. We had four days there in 2001. I could have happily spent far more time.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 02:47:35 PM
TCB congratulations on your nine year anniversary.    :)

JoseSPiano, you had been consuming an incredible amount of sugar.  I need to reduce my sugar & chocolate intake slowly before going on a diet to prevent headaches.  It sounds as if you are almost ready to join Danise.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 02:49:30 PM
Oh my God, Panni, you are too funny!

Not if you are the vegetarian receiving the message!! ;D ;D
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jennifer on February 13, 2004, 02:58:27 PM
Oh DR Jane: That sounds like an exciting trip.

I asked about American Splendor because I saw it in this month's brochure for new releases. And I couldn't remember hearing about it when it came out.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jed on February 13, 2004, 03:02:56 PM
I hope that Jason's busy schedule is due to good things happening for him!

Panni - Thank you for my HHW gutbuster laugh of the day. :D
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 03:03:42 PM
Jennifer there wasn't much hype about the movie here.  My brother told me to see it.  :) In fact I'm not sure if it made it to Ashland, but then I wasn't around much when it was out.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jed on February 13, 2004, 03:07:55 PM
"I left my harp in Sam Clam's disco."
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: elmore3003 on February 13, 2004, 03:08:03 PM
DR MBarnum,  as a total slouch with no discipline, let me spead a bit of gossip about the iron will of BK, my intrepid record producer and raconteur:  when I first met Bruce, he was a bit out of shape but still thinner than I, and during the several years of our recording projects, our Bruce did a fantastick job dieting, jogging, and becoming addicted to diet Coke.  I don't know how much weight he lost, but his self-discipline and svelte figure should have been an example to me.  However, time is short and some of us are just looking for one more Dunkin' Donuts stop on the turnpike of life.  I wish you well in your effort to quit smoking.  It's not easy, and I hope your self-discipline is better than mine.

French actresses, I've noticed, have often used one name as their stage name, and the three I can think of right off the bat are Rejane, Rachel, and Musidora, the Irma Vep of the 1915 LES VAMPIRES.  Perhaps your Bollywood actors are fans of French theatre?
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jennifer on February 13, 2004, 03:10:41 PM
Oh my gosh MBarnum: You are so handsome! Great pic!  Good luck with quitting smoking. I agree, it must have taken a lot for you to tell us.  I don't like smoking. For some reason smoke really affects me in a bad way.

I hope everyone has a great Valentine's Day. I'd love to hear about everyone's plans or their favorite gifts (that they've given or received).
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 03:12:28 PM
Good vibes to MBARNUM on his quest.....

Nice pictures past and present, MB!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jrand73 on February 13, 2004, 03:22:25 PM
Looks like The Last Wagon is on the Cinemax Action Channel on February 27 at 4 am EST!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Panni on February 13, 2004, 03:29:48 PM
Jane - I'm firmly convinced that trying to be a vegetarian in Budapest played a large part in my losing the chance to write a major film. Story follows:
I was a vegetarian for around 8 years. (I started eating meat again about a year ago, but still eat as little  red meat as possible.)
A few years ago, when I was living in Boulder, I got a call from a producer in Canada who asked if I would like to go to Budapest for a long weekend to meet with the Academy Award-winning director, Istvan Szabo. Now that was a no-brainer. To fly First Class to my hometown, all expenses paid, to meet one of my favorite directors. I'm there!
The producer then sent me an 8 hour epic in Hungarian and the literal English translation. This opus, written by Szabo, was what was later to become the film SUNSHINE. What they wanted was to reduce the HUGE three-part film to a normal-sized epic. And they wanted a writer who could work with Szabo in doing this. I was to audition for him in Budapest to see how we got along.
Well, I flew to Budapest and met up with him. It was a dream come true. We drove and walked all over the city together -- he showed me locations he had shot of films I loved. We drank gallons of espresso and talked and talked. Only one thing didn't work. Whenever we'd sit down to eat, which was often, I'd nibble at the salad, the potatoes, the napkins, anything but the meat. There was nothing for me to order. And he would just look at me and say (in Hungarian) "Eat! Why don't you eat?!" I was too embarrassed to tell him that there was nothing on the menu that I wanted, so I would stutter excuses. I could see his disdain growing by the hour. When it was time for me to go home, we said our fond farewells, promised to keep in touch, etc. But I knew I would never see him or hear from him again. If you look the credits of SUNSHINE, you will see that it was written by Israel Horowitz. Who eats meat, I would bet. (And he's not too shabby a writer, but that's neither here nor there.)
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Panni on February 13, 2004, 03:39:51 PM
An interesting footnote: I discovered in my travels with Szabo - who truly is one of the great European directors - that he couldn't tell left from right.   A rather unfortunate affliction for a director!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: td on February 13, 2004, 03:41:15 PM
Countless thanks to all the Dear Readers & Moderators who have been thinking good thoughts and sending good vibes to myself and my family.
We are still not out of the woods yet: Dad's sugar still has not stabilized and Mom will have the Hoffman Device on her leg at least through the end of the month.  It's a constant three-ring circus around here - minus the clowns, the music, the sawdust and the FUN.  If I am errant and truant, it only means that I am tending to the homebound, both of whom need lots of care.  In order for me to go to work each day, I must have someone come in to take care of both of them, and sometimes, that just isn't possible.  Thank goodness I work for very, very understanding people - not to mention the compassion of my coworkers and friends.  Basically, I'm a nutcase, which I guess is really nohing new.
Before the media check, I must post personal thanks from MINX THE DOG to certain dear readers who know who they are.  She's ectastically pleased.
I must also personally thank another dear reader for very kindly sending in the clowns just when i needed them.
As to the media:
CD PLAYER: self burned Ahrens & Flaherty Songbook, based on the nice book I bought two weeks ago.
DVD PLAYER:  THE LION KING 1 1/2, ANGEL SEASON THREE (disc two), WISEGUY (Mel Profitt).
VCR:  Wednesday Night's ANGEL.

All my best and brightest vibes to whomsoever needeth them!

Let's see what else.

DSL is great and I even installed my own ethernet card without problems.

MBarnum was handsome in the September photo, I'm sure he's just as handsome now.

TCB , wish I could be there to enjoy a V-Day dinner with you - and any other dear readers who would be welcome.

And, finally, today is the final day of voting for the Rondo Awards, so, you know what to do, and here's where to go to do it:
http://rondoaward.com/ (http://rondoaward.com/)
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: PennyO on February 13, 2004, 04:09:53 PM
td - best vibes on the vigil. You are not alone. Not ever.

MBarnum - you can do it, you can conquer this addiction. One step at a time, one moment at a time. Intention sets the miracle in motion. Great health to you, boy!

Panni - hahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!!! Even the carrots are made of pork!!!! hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!

Woody and Bruce - check your email. I forwarded the script of Weird Romance to you from David Spencer. And he sent the CD to you, in care of me, in care of the theater. Come an' get it, boys!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 04:15:27 PM
Panni, as usual, I enjoyed your story.  I’m hoping the vegetarian situation has changed.  Even in Los Angeles it can be difficult to find good vegetarian dishes if you go to the more traditional restaurants.  I know from all the meals out with my family.

Our son says his food selection in his little town of Tecuci, Romania has improved since he has been there.  He can even buy tofu now.  Over the New Year he went to Budapest and found a Thai restaurant (although it was ridiculously overpriced for the food).
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: bk on February 13, 2004, 04:21:23 PM
Well, I've been through the galley and save for one teeny-tiny little error (that I can live with, as no one would notice it), it seems all correct.  If they can fix the one little error, great, but only if they guarantee me it won't cause any other things to get screwed up.  It shouldn't - it's just a lower-case letter that needs to be a cap, so hopefully they can just go in, do it, and be done.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 04:23:55 PM
TD – GOOD VIBES!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Tomovoz on February 13, 2004, 04:24:44 PM
DR Jane: Is the Tofu a native animal or Romania or does it only graze on the steppes of Russia?  I am sure I saw a progamme about it's life and mating habits (was it narrated by Lowell Thomas?).
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: George on February 13, 2004, 04:27:29 PM
I've been logged in all day but haven't had any time to read any posts.  I just now started page two.  Anyway, I should at least check in with the media:

currently in my CD player at work:  Cheryl Bentyne's brand new (from Japan but sung in English) CD called "The Lights Still Burn...." (the .... are part of the title).  Before that was the original off-Broadway cast recording of The Prince and the Pauper by Neil Berg, Bernie Garzia and Ray Roderick.  It's not too bad...not too special, either.  

In my DVD player at home:  Chess in Swedish.  I love this.  'nuff said!

In my VCR:  a tape to tape tonight's ABC line-up.  I love Bonnie Hunt.

That's it for now.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Danise on February 13, 2004, 04:29:20 PM
Good evening all!

Let me start with a joke I was told today.

An employee calls in to work and tells his supervisor he can't come in to work.  The supervisor asks, "Why not?"  The employee replies, "Because I have Anal Glaucoma."  "Anal Glaucoma?" asks the boss. " Never heard of it.  What is it?" To which the employee says, "I just can't see my butt coming in to work today!"    :D :) :D

I thought it was pretty funny.



And since it's "confession" time, I might as well confess that I haven't started my "diet" yet.  However, the amount of junk I've been consuming has declined over the past few days, but I'm just not "feeling it" yet.  The last time I started a program, I literally woke up one morning, and something in my head said, "This is the day!".  And it was.  I just haven't woke up with that feeling yet.  But my fridge and cupboard are slowly being overtaken with "good foods", so maybe once the "bad foods" are gone...

-Sorry, DR Danise.  It's not even a matter of not trying... or even failing at this point... Like I said, I'm just not feeling it right now.

But I am very proud of your progress so far!  Onward and upward! -Well, downward on the scales and measuring tape!
 
:)

That's ok, Jose.  If your hearts not into it, it won't work for you.  I won't pick on you.  I'll flaunt my skinny self in front of you.  I'll make you feel ten kinds of guilty because it could have been you as well. I'll be the envy of one and all but I won't pick on you for not starting you diet any more.   ;)

I love the SS vs ALW stuff!  Two grown men behaving that way.  Ha!

I have a cable modem.  Roadrunner and I've just finished my first year with the service.  I really like it.  No complaints from me except the price.  Almost $50.00 a month is a bit much.

Continued good vibes to you and your family, TD.  My thoughts and prayers are with you and yours!

DR MBarnum,  The very best of luck and vibes to you!  You CAN do it!  I've never had a cig to my lips but I know how hard it can be to quit.  Just think about how much better your going to feel when some of that junk gets out of your body.  

Jane, thanks for the kind words about my up grade!  We didn't have time to work on it today but my boss wants us to set a day aside next week to get it finished and into the "powers that be" by next FRIDAY!  I'm very happy and proud about it.   I can't go any higher excpet for the title of Manager I.  My boss says  that will come, someday.  I'm not to sure about that.  

I started out as a Secretary.  I never expected to advance this fast.    Wow!  Sorry if I sound stunned but I am!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Danise on February 13, 2004, 04:31:23 PM
So Bruce, is it going to be like a scavenger hunt?  Who ever finds the one tiny mistake wins a prize?

Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 04:44:13 PM
DR MBarnum (again) - That's a great pic of your mom and dad.  Now we know where your good looks come from.  -Shot gun wedding?  Did I miss something?

Ha! It is a long story Jose! LOL! I was born before my parents got married. They were both married to others when they met on a bowling league...and well, one thing led to another and the birds and the bees and what not. Would have made an interesting Ross Hunter movie! LOL!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 04:46:53 PM
Have you been there?  What wonderful (vegetarian) foods will I eat?

LOL! No I have never been to Europe at all. Japan is the only overseas country I have visited thus far. I just love food and my favorite thing to do would be to try every unusual food item that I came across! Don't know what there is vegetarian wise, but I am sure there must be some scrumptious non-animal foods!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 04:49:14 PM
Good luck, MBarnum! I think it's great you "confessed". Now you are no longer alone in trying to quit, but have a whole community of terrific people to support you.



You are so right Panni! A nicer bunch of people couldn't be found! That is partly why I "confessed." I figured the HHW support system might help in making this departure from nicotine a success!  ;D
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 13, 2004, 05:33:43 PM
Panni, enjoyed your story, which illustrates the virtues of being carnivorous.  Didn't you even eat fish at the time?  When I was in neighbouring Slovakia, there was certainly a lot of pork, but we also had several Italian restaurants, and a couple of Asian restaurants and when you were homesick, you could also go to the K-Mart in downtown Bratislava and next door they had Caesar's pizza next door.  

Oddly enough despite the fact of all that pork and a good caterer and downing Pivos (Beer) with the likes of Pete Postlethwaite, Jason Isaacs, and the British stunt crew, I lost weight like crazy and got down to about 175 lbs. eventually.  Slimmest I had been since college.  I attribute it to be up from five AM to eleven PM every day and stress from watching the movie go awry.

Were you a vegetarian for moral or health reasons?  And what changed your mind?
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 05:46:51 PM
Ok, while I am able to actually find some photos here are a few more of my trip to Los Angeles. Hope you all don't mind, but it was one of the funnest vacations I have ever been on, although the previous trip down when I got to go to Mickey Hargitay's house was a close second.

Here is my good buddy Ron, who always goes with me on my treks to L.A. In this photo he is trying to help me find the handprints of Frances Farmer so that I can snap a shot of them for JRand53. Unfortunately no such prints could be found. Sorry JRand! Oh, well, couldn't find June Kenney's either! LOL!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 05:49:27 PM
And here Ron and I are with the lovely Laurie "Queen of Outer Space" Mitchell and Diana "foil of the Three Stooges" Darrin at our wonderous luncheon in the Oaks of Sherman! This will be one of the absolute highlights of my life! It was such fun!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 13, 2004, 05:51:02 PM
I was a vegetarian for about eight years. When invited to someone's home, I was quite content to eat the side dishes, but I found that some hosts really fretted. We were once invited to friends of Gord's, who announced that they had prepared a special vegetarian meal in my honor. It turned out to be chicken livers. Gord explained politely why I didn't touch the main course (I was usually adept at slipping things on his plate), but the hosts never really understood that liver is meat.

 
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 05:51:47 PM
And here I am at Carolyn Kearney's house. Carolyn as some may know starred in THE THING THAT COULDN'T DIE, HOT ROD GIRL, and DAMN CITIZEN. As well as a Twilight Zone, a Thriller, and a Bonanza, among numerous others! She is the sweetest person you could ever want to meet!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 05:53:16 PM
Here I am someplace in Hollywood. I forget exactly where, but it must have been just off of Hollywood Blvd. Perhaps one of the L.A. area DRs will know for sure.

Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: MBarnum on February 13, 2004, 05:55:20 PM
And last, but not least, my cat Freddy greeting me upon my return home (No doubt wondering why he had to live in the garage for a week!)

Thanks for putting up with my photo gallery. I hope I haven't clogged the arteries of HHW with KBs and JPGs and whatnots! LOL!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 13, 2004, 06:01:40 PM
MBarnum, I can't make out enough of the details to know exactly what side street you're on and I know Hollywood Blvd.  and environs pretty well.  I used to live off one of those side streets, Ivar, in the bungalows Nathaniel West wrote about in DAY OF THE LOCUSTS.  Is that a theatre on your right?
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Panni on February 13, 2004, 06:04:08 PM
Were you a vegetarian for moral or health reasons?  And what changed your mind?
I ate fish at the time, but wasn't in a fishy mood for some reason. Plus, often we sat down for a smaller meal and I didn't want to order a big fish dish.
As for your question, I became a vegetarian sort of by accident! My then husband was going through a major identity crisis and decided to solve it by abandoning producing movies and becoming a Taoist priest. (Perfectly understandable.) This meant that he was on a very strict vegetarian diet (this is a man from Newfoundland who in his younger days heartily ate squirrel and seal). My daughter, who was quite young at the time, thought this was pretty neat - the diet, not the rest of it - and decided to also not eat meat. I had a busy life and was certainly not about to cook two different meals every night.  So I joined them. Within about a year, my husband and I split up and my daughter started eating meat again. But I liked the way I felt not eating meat. I had much more energy and just felt "lighter." So I stayed a vegetarian. Last year, however, I really started craving meat - chicken specifically, so I started eating it again. End of boring story. But you asked.
As for your losing weight on the shoot in Slovakia. Not a surprise. I always lose weight when I go on location - and I really shouldn't lose weight. The stress is enough to kill a horse -- or at least slim one down.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: bk on February 13, 2004, 06:26:08 PM
Had a scary computer prob about which more tomorrow, but everything is fine now.  Shortly I will be off to see Mr. Ray Bradbury's play at Theater West.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: JMK on February 13, 2004, 06:27:51 PM
I've been a vegetarian for most of my life, but I've never been to Hungary (although we had a great Czech babysitter for a while who was over here as an exchange student).  We're currently going through "meat education" with our kids, who have starting having school lunches.

Re:  SITPWG.  I want to clarify a couple of things--my qualms are based on the video version, I've never seen the show live, but the whole thing (not just Act I) seems oppressively cold.  I'm sure it's my shortcoming as an audience member, but I did not have this same apathy toward "Passion," which, perhaps not coincidentally, I did see on Broadway.  I certainly have respect for the score (a six week run of "Putting it Together," with that phenomenal title song--which I had to reduce from two pianos to one--almost gave me permanent carpal tunnel syndrome ;) ), I just don't feel myself involved with the characters.  I'll keep working on it.  :)
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: JMK on February 13, 2004, 06:30:05 PM
liver is meat.

LOL--I can't tell you how many times we've been invited over to someone's house for dinner and when we tell them I'm vegetarian, they'll answer, "Do you eat chicken?"  Ummmm......
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Tomovoz on February 13, 2004, 06:31:53 PM
Thanks for sharing your photos with us Michael. Vicarious lives we have. A little concerned about Freddy. Did you label his food so he knew which to eat what? I used to tell people that we had our pets "put down" if we were going away for any length of time. It's so easy to get fresh ones on our return and it saves so much money. Somes fools believed it!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: JMK on February 13, 2004, 06:32:25 PM
In this photo he is trying to help me find the handprints of Frances Farmer so that I can snap a shot of them for JRand53. Unfortunately no such prints could be found.

I don't think FF ever did that--in any case, it probably would have been fist marks!!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 06:41:40 PM
Tomovoz – Ha! Ha!

Danise-cute joke.  How long have you worked there?  You should be proud and happy with yourself.

I too have had to go through the list of what I don’t eat.  ;D
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Jane on February 13, 2004, 06:44:41 PM
Tomovoz I can't believe you tell people that.  How horrible-but I did laugh which just shows how warped my sense of humor is.  :D
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Tomovoz on February 13, 2004, 06:51:47 PM
BTW Jane - we have house and animal sitters when we go away. We will be going to France for five weeks later in the year. We believe the dogs are happier in their own environment and we have good friends and relatives who will share the enjoyable tasks of feeding birds and  caring for Fosca and Magnus.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: George on February 13, 2004, 07:06:06 PM
"I left my harp in Sam Clam's disco."

I've heard, "I left my harp in Sam Frank's Disco."
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: ladodgerjon on February 13, 2004, 07:08:41 PM
Bruce accused me of not posting...

and he's right!

By request, here's a photo of the 'lil guy... who now is two months old, weighs 12 pounds (he was 9 lbs at birth), and has grown 2 1/2 inches (he's now 23 1/2").

Hope everyone is well,

--Jon
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Kerry on February 13, 2004, 07:09:18 PM
JOSE:

The same thing happened to me last week with my VCR.  Alll I got was a blue tape.  Turned out all it needed was cleaning.  So I used one of those head cleaning tapes and all is well.  You might try that.

MICHAEL:  I smoked a pack and a half for 18 years-- since I was 16.  I decided enough was enough and quit while Lyn was In Australia (just in case i didn't succeed).   Funny thing is he quit five years before me.  I quit on August 19th. he quit on August 20th -- just 5 years apart.  We did NOT plan it that way.  It was tough.  So tough in fact that the thought of quitting again keeps me from ever having a cigarette!

CHARLES:
 We loved MY WORD and MY MUSIC and miss it terribly. It used to make Sunday mornings so nice.   I may still have one or two on cassette someplace.

JOSE, JANE:  How do you get off the sugar?   I can't get enough of it (usually in the form of chocolate).  If I can do that, the rest will fall into place.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: Noel on February 13, 2004, 07:19:47 PM
-- I don't know how to listen to radio programs on my computer. Never tried, maybe I can't.

Oh, Panni, you simply must learn how to listen to the radio show on this here site.  You just never know who will turn up on Donald's fine program.
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 13, 2004, 07:41:55 PM
Evenin', all.  I just got back from seeing Sharon McNight (no K) doing her Sophie Tucker thing.  She had a bit of a cold, but it didn't interfere with her belting, no sirree.  No mikes in that theatre.

The show is very much like the CD with more patter, minus "Myron" ("you're not desirin'"), and with a more traditional and torchy "The Man I Love" than the honky-tonk version on the CD (terrific, btb [by the bye in Internet Lingo]).

Silly me.  I brought her a dozen roses but couldn't get her attention during the curtain calls, even with audience members shouting encouragement.  So I went backstage for a few minutes--I should add that I am usually not a stage-door Johnny, but Sharon cut a demo for my collaborator and me last year, and I wanted to meet and thank her.

A very quick conversation, as she had a second show to do at ten.  Told her that her "Jeepers Creepers" really nailed it.  Told her that BK was a friend of mine, to which she replied, "Well, you can't help that."  

I think I was the only one in the audience under sixty (and just under at that).  I know from this site that there are scads of young people who know music that was written more than two years ago, but I guess they don't live on Long Island.

Oh, and btb, Dear Reader WEL:  You get marks off for misspelling Sharon McNight (no K)'s name twice in the same post.  Actually, it was misspelled on the tickets.  
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Post by: William E. Lurie on February 13, 2004, 07:45:31 PM
WFO - When I post from work I don't have my books and CDs to check spelling and I don't have the time to go back and check for it on prior posts.

Since everyone is posting about SITPWG, is there anyone besides me who loves Act I and doesn't care for Act II?
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 13, 2004, 07:48:16 PM
....the hosts never really understood that liver is meat.
Hey, some people have trouble understanding that liver is food!

 ;)
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 13, 2004, 07:59:31 PM
WEL:  I was just ;Ding.  hhw is the one course you will take where spelling doesn't count.

td:  Vibes and prayers.  If you want to hear stories about Home Health Aides, we had one for Joe (actually many over the course of ten years) and he finally decided he'd rather not spend the money.

MBarnum:  More pictures, please.  Anytime.  And I can give you the same advice as Mark Twain did about giving up smoking.  Two karma points for the first one who quotes it.  Oh, we don't do that anymore.  Never mind.  Oh, a Gilda Radner reference.
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Post by: Jennifer on February 13, 2004, 07:59:44 PM
OMG- what kind of people have to ask if chicken is a vegetarian dish?? :)
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Post by: Jennifer on February 13, 2004, 08:03:03 PM
GREAT baby pic!
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Post by: Noel on February 13, 2004, 08:13:37 PM
At Intermission at Sunday in the Park With George (many a preposition in this sentence so far), I, too, found the show a little cold.  It seemed to me that the subplots - those people on the island - were a bit lifeless.  Act Two put everything together for me.  We (the audience) looked back on the Act One goings-on and suddenly everything had an emotional resonance.  I think the line "Mama is everywhere; he must have loved her so much" set it off for me.

The worst musical I ever saw on Broadway starred the aforementioned Sharon McNight and left me with no desire to ever learn to spell her name or see her again.

But raunchy songs are fine with me (not Raunchy from 110 in the Shade, but others).  I've been looking for a copy of Making Love Alone for years.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 13, 2004, 08:19:48 PM
Re SITPWG, it has always been part of my life with der Brucer.  We listened to the score together shortly after we met.  We've been to Chicago and stood together in front of the original painting.  (Did you know there's a butterfly?  It can't be seen in any of the reproductions, it's too small.  I'm in love with that butterfly!)  And we've seen it on stage, at the Long Beach Civic Light Opera, with Pamela Myers as Dot.  At first I didn't know if she could pull off the role, her own personality being so quirky, but she was great.

Does it work on video?  Not really.  There's something about the three-dimensionality of a stage production that proves to be a major part of the show.  It is about a painting, but a painting that takes life and communicates about life by reinterpreting it as a two-dimensional image.  (And then, in Act Two, takes that two-dimensional image and resuscitates it into the three dimensions.)  Also, a television screen cannot give any appreciation of the size of the work, the height and width.  No, it doesn't work on video.

It does work amazingly well on audio, and better on CD than it did on its original vinyl release, mainly because the CD restores the continuity of the musical bridge between "We Do Not Belong Together" and "Beautiful."  (Due to length, the vinyl recording had to cut at this point for the switch between recorded sides.)  Much of this is because Thomas Z. Shepard didn't try to copy what had been done on stage, but re-imagined the work as something to be heard.  He and Sondheim re-worked some of the music, even going so far as to change some of the order of musical segments.  As such, it is to my ear a near-perfect aural experience, not a souvenir from some long-closed show.
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Post by: Jed on February 13, 2004, 08:24:09 PM
Since everyone is posting about SITPWG, is there anyone besides me who loves Act I and doesn't care for Act II?

Yes... my mother.  I, too, prefer Act I, but definitely enjoy Act II more than my mom does.
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 13, 2004, 08:27:51 PM
Oh, and WEL, to be more positive about your post, I'm sitting here having a Sharon McNight marathon.  Just listening to "In the Meantime", and there are so many aspects of her voice and phrasing that she doesn't get to use in her (very accurate, from what I remember of seeing her on "The Ed Sullivan Show") portrayal of Sophie Tucker.

There's more of a range of styles.  Curiously, she does the honky-tonk "The Man I Love" on this album too, but not exactly in the Sophie voice.

Perhaps they replaced it in the show with the torchy version, because almost the entire evening is up-tempo songs (hey, that was Sophie), and it needs some breaks.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 13, 2004, 08:33:29 PM
DR MBarnum:  Vibes for your trying to quit smoking.  Der Brucer and I have both been there.

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The first time we tried to quit smoking, we were both doing fairly well.  Unfortunately, der B tried to help another couple with their taxes, and they both insisted on lighting up in front of us.  The next thing we knew, der B was lighting up out of habit.  And I lit up out of spite.  Wrong move.

A few years later, I tried quitting on my own, and somehow made it!  I was a real bitch to live with for a few weeks, but der Brucer survived, as did my coworkers.  And I felt a lot better for it.  I also gained weight...about fifty pounds during that first year after my last puff!  As it turned out, part of that was genetic, as my father had quit smoking at about the same age, and had also been a bean-pole up until that time.  But it was a major adjustment, to go from 145 pounds up to nearly 200 in that short a time!

It took a visit to the hospital for der Brucer to quit, a nasty case of viral pneumonia being the trigger.  But he's managed to stay off the sticks, too, and is glad for it.  Not doing other people's taxes has paid off, as well.

Now, we've got to find some way of getting his son-in-law to quit!  But that won't be easy, because he's a Maryland redneck, and some things are a matter of pride, I guess.   :P

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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 13, 2004, 09:00:23 PM
Good Evening!

DR Noel - Are you still looking for a copy of "Making Love Alone"?  If so, message me. ;)

DR MBarnum - Thanks for the additional pics.  What great fun and joy and admiration there is in your face with those fine ladies.

Dear DRs - Thanks for all the words of support and understanding regarding my diet.  I know I'll be back on the wagon again soon... and sooner rather than later.

DR Panni - Love your stories!  I've actually wondered if Filipinos can be vegetarian.  There is hardly anything in the typical Filipino diet - at least the one I was raised on - that could be considered vegetarian.  Some dishes could be modified, but pork - well, the pig, the whole pig, and nothing but the pig - is a major food group in the Philippines.  Well, I guess a Filipino could go vegetarian, but it would be a very bland diet - I'm guessin'.

Well... Steve and I went to see the aftormentioned The Last Session tonight.  Some good performances, some good voices... and then there was the one... I actually didn't squirm as much as I thought I would, but it did take me a while to get comfortable sitting in the theatre.  Well, it took me a while to get used to listening to something that I knew in advance would not be the most pleasant voice around.  But... I eventually relaxed and let the show happen.  -And I only heard two or three spots in my piano tracks that I laid down that I would like to correct. ;)  But we had a good time, and there were some people in the audience I hadn't seen in a while.  Lots of catching up during intermission and after the show.

Oh, and we had some very good baby back ribs for dinner before the show - with some cole slaw and cheddar-jalapeno cornbread!

DR Danise - I look forward to you strutting your svelte-self before me one day!

DR ladodgerjon - I can just sense the "Proud Papa" vibes coming from your eyes!
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: William F. Orr on February 13, 2004, 09:09:51 PM
Noel:  Please don't blame Sharon for Starmites.  I myself did not have the misfortune of seeing the show, which has become somewhat legendary in the Moose Murders vein.  I did, however, see Sharon do her number on the Tony Awards show, and it was obvious to me that this woman was quite superior to the material.  

As for Sunday in the Park with George, the people I saw it with didn't get it.  "So it's about this artist and he has to choose between his art and this girl."  For me there are so many other aspects to it than this TV-Guide plot summary.  Like the pairing of songs in the first and second acts.  Like what it says about art in the nineteenth vis-à-vis the twentieth century.  (She's a railroad train!)

Maybe I'm so moved by SitPwG for the same reason that I get goose pimples from "Someone in a Tree", and it's the same reason many people "don't like Sondheim".  "Cold, intellectual, distant"  Well, that is also what SitPwG is about isn't it?  About the passion (oh, a Stephen Sondheim reference) in the obsession with one's work--not just painting, but brokering stocks, building motorcycles, whatever--and how others interpret that as lack of feeling.

But, to get back to my point, whatever it was:  It's the intellectual dialogue in "Someone in a Tree", the zen imagery, that leads to the big emotional payoff in the word History.  Ah, a Jessica Fletcher moment!

The same with Sunday in the Park.  You see George as totally distant, distracted, unfeeling perhaps in Act I right up until "Sunday", one of the most emotional moments I've had in the theatre.  You're so swept up in the realization of his vision (in the music, mind you), that you forgive him.

The second act begins again with a lot of intellectualizing.  Though this George wears his anguish on his sleeve, you don't really like him all that much more than the other one until he gets to Grande Jatte, and then, with one tree (with on one in it) and "Lesson Number 5" we are led to the glory of "Move On".  Again, the emotional payoff had its foundation laid by the more brainy stuff before.  Not every musical needs to deliver a big payoff with every number, punch-punch-punch.



God I love the Modify feature on this board!  Saves a lot of embarrassment.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 13, 2004, 09:16:21 PM
"And now for something totally different..." he intoned in his best Monty Python reference voice.

It seems there is a group called the Michagan Lawsuit Abuse Watch, which works to raise public awareness of how the explosion in litigation is harming the country.  "It used to be that if someone spilled coffee in their laps, they simply called themselves clumsy.  Today, too many people are calling themselves an attorney," sais their president, Robert B. Dorigo Jones.

To this end, they hold an annual Wacky Warning Label Contest. (http://www.wackywarnings.com/)  This year, the top prize winner was to be found on a bottle of drain cleaner, and read: "If you do not understand, or cannot read, all directions, cautions and warnings, do not use this product."

Other winners this year included a 5-inch fishing lure with three steel hooks that had a label that read "Harmful if swallowed," and a label on a 12-inch high compact disc storage rack that read "Do not use as a ladder."

Last year's winner was found on a massage chair, and read "Do not use massage chair without clothing...and never force any body part into the backrest area while the rollers are moving."
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: S. Woody White on February 13, 2004, 09:20:11 PM
...Again, the emotional payoff had its foundation laid by the more brainy stuff before.  Not every musical needs to deliver a big payoff with every number, punch-punch-punch...
Which may be why a collaboration between Stephen Sondheim and Tom Stoppard would be too much of a good thing!
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 13, 2004, 09:22:23 PM
Woody, Woody, Woody!

The massage-chair label killed me!  It's still hard to type, because I'm shaking with laughter.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 13, 2004, 09:28:09 PM
Elsewhere, again, this time in Ohio (not intended as a Comden and Green reference):

It seems that three livestock exhibitors at last year's Ohio State Fair have been disqualified for supposedly fitting their Holsteins with hairpieces.

Yes, Holsteins.  As in cows.

According to State Fair inspectors, it was discovered as the cows were leaving the show ring that the trio had either glued or painted hair from another part of the animal (or from another animal) to create the appearance of straighter backs on the cows, thus improving their appearance and increasing their chances of winning in the show ring.

(Hoping this helps DR Emily keep her own hair problems in perspective.   :-\)
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Post by: Jed on February 13, 2004, 10:18:38 PM
Are you sure it's laughter that has you shaking, WFO, or have you been sticking body parts in the massage chair again? :D
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Post by: Laura II on February 13, 2004, 10:20:04 PM
What cute pictures, ladodgerjon and MBarnum! I think I'll add one of me and my friends just because I can. This is one of my favorite pictures. It was taken a few days after my 17th birthday. My friends and I went out to dinner.

From left to right: Laura, me, Sarah S, Tiff

Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: bk on February 13, 2004, 11:25:40 PM
Cute pix one and all.  Back from the play and a spot of dinner.  Tomorrow morning DSL - at least we hope so.
Title: Re:IN SEARCH OF NUTMEATS
Post by: George on February 13, 2004, 11:29:44 PM
But raunchy songs are fine with me (not Raunchy from 110 in the Shade, but others).  I've been looking for a copy of Making Love Alone for years.

Do you mean a recording or sheet music?  If you mean recording, did you know that Bernadette Peters recorded it on her "Sondheim, Etc." CD when it was first released, but the song is no longer on the CD?  Does anyone know why it was removed from the recording?

DR Noel - Are you still looking for a copy of "Making Love Alone"?  If so, message me. ;)

Um...Jose, if you mean sheet music, could I possible "message" you, too? :)
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Post by: Panni on February 13, 2004, 11:35:22 PM
Funny posts, great baby picture, (and adult pictures). Now off to bed so I can write write write bright and early. 'Night, all.