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Title: KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 12:04:47 AM
Well, you've read the notes quite quickly since they were so damnably short, so now all that's left or even right to do is post until the cows come home.  
Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 15, 2004, 12:27:59 AM
BK, I like TUNES OF GLORY a lot and THE DAMNED is very interesting.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 15, 2004, 12:32:53 AM
Sorry, BK, but the cows are already home.  Der Brucer and I passed them earlier while returning home ourselves.

We'd been out locating a used electric dryer for our laundry, and got a pretty good deal on one, or at least one that der Brucer was satisfied with, at a dealer just a town away from where we are.  We wouldn't really need an electric dryer, because we have a gas dryer that we brought in with that truckload of everything that arrived last weekend, but there's this kind of a DSL problem with these things.  It seems that the gas company, whose assistance we need to hook up said gas dryer, won't be able to come out to our house for a while.  They're booked.  For at least a couple of months.

And, on the way home, we passed a field filled with cows, who were quite at home themselves.

So, an electric dryer is the solution, it seems.  Der Brucer prefers gas, but I prefer dry clothes, and I'm not fond of going to the laundromat, having done that for too many years.  There is the advantage that, when the gas dryer does get hooked up, we'll have two dryers to work with.  And drying clothes always takes more time than washing them.

Does anyone else out there have similar stores, like those BK and der Brucer and I have, about having fun with repairmen and the like.

DR TCB, I know you've got stories to tell!   :o
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 12:42:33 AM
I had a very very very (that's three verys) lovely Valentine's Day evening and am now home again and ready for beddy. Tomorrow i cut five minutes from my script or else. Just dropped in to say good-night.
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Post by: TCB on February 15, 2004, 01:11:04 AM
Does anyone else out there have similar stores, like those BK and der Brucer and I have, about having fun with repairmen and the like.

DR TCB, I know you've got stories to tell!   :o

Oh, SWW, you mean like the cable TV installer or the pizza delivery man???  Shame on you.  This is, of course, a family site, not a site for family! ::)
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 15, 2004, 05:51:52 AM
Here is your François Villon picture for today:
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Post by: Jennifer on February 15, 2004, 06:03:59 AM
Good morning all!  Well I had a very bad night's sleep.  I think that is what you get for resting before bedtime. I was wide awake at midnight for a couple of hours and could not fall asleep!  

And when I just woke up I was having a weird dream.  I was talking to someone on my driveway and snowplow neighbor guy from next door's wife knew that person. So she and neighbor husband came over.  And somehow I told him that his putting snow against the driveway was not appreciated. And he was shocked!

Then it seemed like I was back in highschool. And they were giving callbacks for the yearly musical, which was to be Thoroughly Modern Millie.  I got callbacks for Millie and Mrs Meers (only the callbacks were that day at 11:45am (it was early morning) and they wanted 3 songs for each). Oy. It was quite funny having me race around in my dream. I am glad I woke up :)

Bruce, sorry about your DSL problems. But you sound exactly like me. You just keep calling back until someone with a brain will answer your questions.
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Post by: PennyO on February 15, 2004, 06:09:16 AM
Jennifer - I have dreams like that - only I'm always naked, and they play my intro music, and I have no idea how the song goes, and I try to fake it. Ah, showbiz!


Quote from: JoseSPiano on Yesterday at 05:30:55pm:

As for meeting in NYC, I may be up there Feb 29-March 2 to catch some friends in some shows and cabarets.  Will you be leaving March 1?  Or March 2?

DRJose: I leave NYC on March 1, to catch an early morning plane out of Philly on March 2. Hope to be able to meet you while I'm in town!
Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: William F. Orr on February 15, 2004, 06:13:22 AM
In re:  Repairmen

The last word on the subject is contained in Flanders & Swann's delightful song "The Gasman Cometh".  For those unfamiliar with this ditty, I quote it herewith in its entirity.

It was on a Monday morning that the gasman came to call,
The gastap wouldn't turn, I wasn't getting gas at all,
He tore up all the skirting boards to try and find the main,
And I had to call the carpenter to put it back again.

Oh it all makes work for the working man to do.

It was on the Tuesday morning the carpenter came round,
He hammered and he chiseled, and he said "Look what I've found!"
Your joists are full of dry rot, but I'll put them all to rights."
Then he nailed right through a cable <pop!> and out went all the lights

Oh it all makes work for the working man to do.

It was on the Wednesday morning the electrician came,
He called me Mr Sanderson, which isn't quite the name,
He couldn't reach the fuse box without standing on the bin,
Then his foot went through a window, so I called the glazier in.

Oh it all makes work for the working man to do.

Twas on the Thursday morning the glazier came along,
With his putty, and his blowtorch, and his merry glazier song,
He put another pane in, it took no time at all,
But I had to get the painter in to come and paint the wall.

Oh it all makes work for the working man to do.

It was on the Friday morning the painter made a start,
With undercoats and overcoats, he painted every part,
Every nook and every crany, but I found when he had gone,
He'd painted over the gastap, and I couldn't turn it on!

On Saturday, and Sunday, they do no work at all
So it was on the Monday morning that the gasman came to call!
Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: Robin on February 15, 2004, 06:45:26 AM
The Significant Other and I had a wonderful Valentine's Day, at the wonderful Betty's Pies and doing some wonderful antiquing. At Betty's, we picked up two pies; one is Raspberry Rhubarb Crunch, and the other is Blueberry Peach...and they're both simply wonderful.  

Wonderful, wonderful.

I came up with a quite wonderful find in a dusty old antique shop.  A book called No Bed of Her Own, by Val Lewton.  Yup, that Val Lewton, written before he'd gotten his producing job at RKO.  It's one of those cheaply-made hardcovers that were in vogue before the paperback made its' appearance on the market.  It's in remarkably good shape; the spine is faded considerably, but the binding is in excellent shape, and though the pages are a bit brittle with age, there's no chunks missing.  Obviously, the book dealer didn't know what he was dealing with, since I only paid a dollar for the book.  

I also found a copy of John Flint Roy's A Guide to Barsoom...the book is in pretty rough shape, but I've been wanting to replace my missing copy of it for a number of years, so rough shape is acceptable shape, given the shape of the hole in my Burroughs collection.

Today, it's off to the appliance stores to find a replacement for the annoyingly-buzzing refridgerator that came with the condo.  It was originally that horrid harvest-gold color so popular in the mid-seventies, but we repainted it white because we couldn't bear to look at it.  Hopefully, it will be out the door later today.

Oh, and BK...

...don't get too riled up with the DSL people.  When DSL came to Our House, it was days late, and I was on the phone with the tech geeks every night for a week.  But they did get the thing working, and once it is working, it's infinitely better and more stable than dial-up connections.  Yes, it's a big pain in the ass, but it's worth it.  (Funny thing was, after working with idiots with names like "Brad" and "Sean", the guy named "Shamir" had it up and running perfectly...isn't immigration wonderful?)
Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: Robin on February 15, 2004, 06:49:13 AM
Oh, and here's a topic I'd like to see discussed here...

Are there any movies that you seem to be the only fan of?  What movie (or movies) is it, and why to you love it as opposed to everyone else hating it?  

I have two movies in mind, which I'll mention later in the day...!
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 15, 2004, 06:49:45 AM
And my Sharon McNight (no K) festival continues with her country album "Now and Then".  Such  voice for yodeling!

It includes such country classics as "Stand by Your Man" and "Put a Nickel in the Jukebox and Bring Back Patti Page", as well as that great country classic "Another Suitcase in Another Hall" from Evita!  Funny, I thought the only Lloyd-Webber/Rice song in this style was "One More Angel in Heaven".
Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: Danise on February 15, 2004, 07:12:27 AM
I'm sorry about the DSL still not working.  I'm having a heck of time with downloading e-books to my PDA.  I bought another book and decided to try MS Reader instead of Adobe Reader.  It's not working any better.  I can't get the PDA to see the book.  Sigh.  

I complained to Amazon.com and am awaiting their reply but maybe e-books aren't all they're cracked up to be.  


Happy Sunday all!  I'll be back later when I've finished doing battle in the bathroom.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 15, 2004, 07:13:27 AM
I saw THE DAMNED in a wretched print at a revival theater many years ago, and the print was so full of splices and tears that it was practically unwatchable. I am looking forward to the DVD to finally see it without such distracting intrusions into one's concentration. It was on a double bill with DEATH IN VENICE, so it was a LONG afternoon, though VENICE was in a nice print and apart from Visconti's overly languorous pacing of the film, I did enjoy it.

Have a full day of movie-watching ahead of me, and I'm looking forward to it. Will give a full report later.
Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: Matt H. on February 15, 2004, 07:16:47 AM
My washer-dryer story: not really a riveting one, but the washer and dryer I now have are 23 years old! I had to replace a fan belt on the dryer about 7 years ago, but otherwise they've worked perfectly. But any week now, I just know they're going to fall apart. Can't really complain after so many years of steady, reliable use.
Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: William F. Orr on February 15, 2004, 07:31:22 AM
And here we have Sharon singing "Don't the Girls All Get Prettier at Closing Time?"
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 15, 2004, 07:34:58 AM
Matt:  That's due to an error in the factory.  They forgot to install the "Go Kablooey one Day After the Warrantee Runs Out" chip.
Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: Jrand73 on February 15, 2004, 07:38:26 AM
A NEW Ronald Stein CD???!!!!!  ;D  I am agog!  :P

Yes, when DSL is working you will be happy and glad....your computer will seem like new....just like the one Betty Furness used to demonstrate on TV....oh no that was a refrigerator....that wouldn't open....oh well!  And it wasn't Betty, it was her replacement that week!   "Just touch the button and the door opens......well.....just touch....well someone seems to playing a joke...anyway....if the door were open you could see the shelf space inside and the freezer on top....."

Hmmmmmmmm.....most of the movies I like, at least a couple of other people like...but they include XANADU and BERSERK! and HARLOW with Miss Carroll Baker!

Does anyone else have a favorite Carroll Baker movie?

DDRMBarnum you chosen my two favorite A/C movies as well!  And yes they are STILL funny.

TD thanks for the Ogden Nash link!
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 15, 2004, 07:39:21 AM
And here we have a later picture of Carroll and her co-star Red Buttons!  8)
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 15, 2004, 07:40:21 AM
On my way to auditions to find the actress we need for the one-woman show I am directing.

Good vibes that she walks in the door please!

Chat tonight will be great!
Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: Noel on February 15, 2004, 08:54:00 AM
td (for some reason) asked for a parody entitled When the Parents Are Asleep...

When the parents are asleep, we're gonna plotz
For sis and I will steal a few tequila shots
When the parents are asleep and you're a kid
No Mom keeps track of your bed; in back of her head
Are eyes that can say "I
Saw what you did."
When the parents are asleep, we'll fool around
We'll see what fun we can have and unravel their every rule
We'll say to the cops, if one stops us, we know that
When the parents are asleep, it's super cool
Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: Matthew on February 15, 2004, 09:33:46 AM
The title today "Keep on Keeping On" reminds me of my High School music teacher as he would always say that.  To make me V-day report quick, the book of 1000 Chocolate Recipe's was VERY well received as was the card with those scary three words in it.  We had a lovely dinner and a wonderful evening.  It was nice to have a real Valentine's day before I turned 35!!  Two movies that I am a fan of are "Candleshoe" and "The North Avenue Irregulars", two forgotten movies from the 70's and 80's.  Off to prepare for the first round of "Joseph" auditions.  I love that show!!  Won't be here for chat. :(    Have a great day, all.  :)
Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 09:39:42 AM
Man, I must have been tired last night - I forgot to close out yesterday's discussion.  
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 09:51:04 AM
Good morning. Boy, Francois Villon looks like one mean dude. Poet as gang member. "Here's the newest Jet, guys -- Francois."

It's a beautiful morning. Took the wonderdog out for his walk to the park. Met up with some early morning dog people there and we let all the dogs run loose and play. It's fun to watch him run like the wind. I just discovered from the dog people that there's a writers' baseball game in the park every Sunday morn. One of these weekends I'll check it out.
Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 09:53:41 AM
Oops (spoo, spelled backwards), call me a corndog but I meant to check out our handy-dandy calendar and didn't, so hold your hats and hallelujah if we don't have a birthday to celebrate here at haineshisway.com.  Yes, you heard it here, dear readers, we've got us a birthday to celebrate, so put on your pointy party hats and your colored tights and pantaloons, break out the cheese slices and ham chunks, dance the hora and the twist, for today is dear reader steveg's very own birthday.  So, let us give steveg a big haineshisway.com birthday cheer.  On the count of three: One, two, three - HAPPY BIRTHDAY STEVE G ON THE COUNT OF THREE.

Also, a happy birthday to Geoff, whomever he may be.  I am adding a note to the notes.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 15, 2004, 09:53:59 AM
Oh, and here's a topic I'd like to see discussed here...

Are there any movies that you seem to be the only fan of?  What movie (or movies) is it, and why to you love it as opposed to everyone else hating it?  

Um, ya, that would be pretty much ALL of the movies that I love! LOL!
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Post by: MBarnum on February 15, 2004, 09:57:58 AM
Happy B'Day to the birthday boys!!!
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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 15, 2004, 10:23:07 AM
A..but they include XANADU and BERSERK! and HARLOW with Miss Carroll Baker!

Does anyone else have a favorite Carroll Baker movie?

I, too, like Xanadu, like you.
People who do not like Xanadu should be sent to their rooms and made to watch 3 consequtive showings of "Lost Horizon - The Musical".

Carroll Baker was really BIG in "How The West Was Won."
(IMDB review quote:

"This is the project that MGM decided would work utilizing the costly and panoramic Cinerama process to tell a story. Good choice. ..Sadly, it's the presentation that really gave this picture it's glory, and that aspect is all but lost when viewing the film today. When something like this is thrown in front of you using three projectors and 8-channels of sound, it's hard not to be engaged.

There's still a great deal of appeal left in this epic for those of us who remember when theaters had curtains."

Hey - movie theatre's with curtains - and ushers! (And all us addicts could puff away to our heart's content).

My old time fav's that get little support:
"Quo Vadis" (with a young Hecule Poirot)
"The Eqyptian" (who does not sing with Mario Lanza's voice!)

Recent films I've liked but few folks I know have seen them:

A Murder of Crows
Donnie Darko

der Brucer (and when we get to worst-evers, I'm ready to vote for Andy Warhol's "Frankenstein" - I took a date who passed out cold from the shock!)
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 15, 2004, 10:24:09 AM
Oh, and here's a topic I'd like to see discussed here...

Are there any movies that you seem to be the only fan of?  What movie (or movies) is it, and why to you love it as opposed to everyone else hating it?  

I have two movies in mind, which I'll mention later in the day...!


The first one to come to mind is Fathom, starring Raquel Welch, Tony Francisosa, and Clive Revill. Here's the official synopsis, which doesn't mention two favorite elements - Anthony Franciosa's sophisticated Peter Merriweather, and John Dankworth's period music. To me, this was an even better spoof (and it was intended as a spoof) than the Austin Powers movies.

Fathom Harvill (Raquel Welch) is tired of being a mere dental assistant. She breaks out in a most unusual way when her skydiving hobby is enlisted by a Scotsman to uncover an atomic weapon hidden away in a Ming statue. This 1967 spy film showcases Welch's greatest talents in a wide array of swimwear while weaving a James Bond style tale of intrigue and fleshy pleasures. Clive Revill excels as Sergi Serapkin, a villainous figure whose fear of cold water deadens his menacing power.
 
 
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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 15, 2004, 10:44:18 AM
Only 28 Posts! Is this to be a "Never On a Sunday" day?

Must I reminisce about the good old days?

Must I tell stories about why my pet rabbits never multiplied? (Tale involves the immigrant family next door, the Krebs, who had a fancy for Hassensomethingorother.)

Must I post links to sites like:

(http://www.briansbelly.com/head/headsloganopener354.gif)

where one can find a hilarious recipe for Armadeillo Eggs (http://www.briansbelly.com/recipes/more/armadilloeggs.shtml) - 'taint whatcha think!

Must we get Ben to post a ballad of the "Tale of Ant and The Faggots"?

der Brucer (Come on folks, I'm dying up here!)

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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 10:45:42 AM
Happy birthday to all who are birthday-ing!

Now, may I VENT, please? When will otherwise intelligent people learn that "Jewish" is not a nationality? I'm just reading a major article/review in the LA Times of FIDDLER ON THE ROOF. The point of the whole thing is that the writer feels that Fiddler has lost whatever true Jewish soul it had and is now just too "universal." Here is the sentence which made me throw down the paper and come to HHW: "Given the immersion of Jews in American culture, it should come as no surprise that the new-look Tevye doesn't have to be played by a Jewish actor (Molina's background is Spanish-Italian), as if Tevye is now a universal paradigm of every persecuted, over-laboured working stiff and not some artifact of vanished European Jewry."
Okay, there's lots to argue with here - but I just want to say, "Excuse me, but is it not possible that one could be a SPANISH Jew or an ITALIAN Jew?" I don't know what Mr. Molina's religion - if any - is. But this writer undeniably gives the impression that being Italian and Spanish, he can't possibly be Jewish.  I wish I had a dollar for every time someone has said to me, "You're Hungarian? I thought you were Jewish." I used to know a couple of guys from India who were Jewish - one was a ballet dancer - a male Indian Jewish ballet dancer - try that on for size. Anyway, enough. (God! I just checked the name of the writer of the article. It's "Rosenbaum." So what's HIS excuse?)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 15, 2004, 10:59:03 AM
I've noticed only one fellow DR on-line; so I thought I'd propose a tongue-in-cheek topic:

"Favorite Hungarian Quilters"

Well, guess what, meet RALPH:

(http://www.florinejohnsondesigns.com/ralph_6.gif)

“RALPH - Ralph traveled to Hungary and made lots of friends in the Hungarian Quilt Guild.  Ralph is a radical rooster because he loves being made up in different colors.”

Read about of the saga of the struggling Hungarian Quilt League (http://www.mariamichaelsdesigns.com/newsletterjan.htm).

der posting Brucer
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Post by: George on February 15, 2004, 11:13:32 AM
Oh, and here's a topic I'd like to see discussed here...

Are there any movies that you seem to be the only fan of?  What movie (or movies) is it, and why to you love it as opposed to everyone else hating it?  

I have two movies in mind, which I'll mention later in the day...!

There aren't any movies that I can think of that I like but no one else does, but there are a lot of musicals that I like that no one else does...of course that could just be that I know them and no one else does. ;)
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Post by: Jane on February 15, 2004, 11:14:44 AM
Thank you Danise.  I’m hoping for the best.  Good luck on the houses.  I will be watching for updates, and of course, for the fish photos.  I sent the tater site to a friend to brighten her Monday morning at work.

“The Ghost & Mrs. Muir” would be a perfect Valentine movie.  Our personal perfect Valentine movie, and the one we watched last night, is “Casablanca”.
Thanks to all the Valentine’s Day discussion here I was motivated to suggest dinner out last night.  We had a nice time.

Matt H glad to hear you are feeling better & survived most of your night out.

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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 15, 2004, 11:19:54 AM
Good morning!

Well...But not for me... (ah, a Gershwin reference)...

I slept rather well.  Woke up.  Went to brunch.  Came back from brunch.  Walked into the apartment....

"What the F!@#(*&^$(*&!^@##(@*&^!@#(!@*#^@!!!!!"

So... After that very unpleasant business, I am now over at Steve's apartment decompressing, and we're about to head out for a short walk.  Maybe some shopping.  Maybe some food.

But, boy... NO - MAN!  Am I pissed off right now!!!!!

-I'll spare the details for now... But I will share later.. Don't worry... I'm OK.  I'm actually amazed that I'm sooo angry right now.. and I don't get angry!!!  Hardly ever!  But, today, right now, I am...

So... Just wanted to check in... Vent.. a little...

I'll be back... And I'm looking forward to the chat tonight... Hopefuly, by that time the steam and smoke will have subsided from my ears and nostrils!
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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 15, 2004, 11:28:09 AM
Anyone shopping for JRand:

Circus of Horrors/Theatre of Death (DVD)

CIRCUS OF HORRORS (1960):
After being drummed out of the medical profession, the brilliant plastic surgeon Dr. Goethe takes over a small travelling circus. Using his unique skills, the doctor transforms a number of disfigured women with criminal pasts into great beauties, and then blackmails them into performing in his circus. Any woman who attempts to leave meets with a horrible accident, which draws the attention of Scotland Yard and leads to the doctor`s downfall.

THEATRE OF DEATH (1967):
Christopher Lee stars in this British shocker as Phillipe Darvas, the leader of The Theatre of Death, a Grand Guignol theater troupe in Paris. Attracted to one of the leads in their gruesome plays, a police surgeon begins frequenting the theater. At the same time, a series of grotesque murders plague Paris, and soon The Theatre of Death falls under suspicion. As the surgeon becomes more involved with the group, he begins to realize that something more sinister that he ever imagined is going on behind the scenes.

List Price: $14.98
Your Price: $10.69

Buy Now at Deal Freak (http://www.dealfreak.com/item.php?t=/Circus-of-Horrors/Theatre-of-Death&sku=300411)
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on February 15, 2004, 11:31:32 AM
We had a swell Valentine's Day. DRs Kerry and Sandra and I drove to Palm Springs to see a concert.....and just as we were getting ready to find our seats, who should walk in the door but DR Jay. Coincidentally, he had a seat directly behind us.

Afterwards, we joined some folks for drinks (Cherry Coke, Diet Coke, and black coffee), where some nosy intoxicated persons spent way too much time prying into our personal business. Then we drove home, arriving one hour before I had to leave for church.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on February 15, 2004, 11:33:33 AM
Swedish Chef Hat had a great time in Palm Springs. Here it is with Lucy.
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Post by: Jane on February 15, 2004, 11:34:36 AM
WFO, "The Gasman Cometh" is great.  Boy, have I been there. (Keith just walked in and made a crude remark. ;D )

Panni, an Indian, Jewish ballet dancer-fascinating.   I have never, knowingly, met a person from India that was Jewish.  
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Post by: Jane on February 15, 2004, 11:36:04 AM
We had a swell Valentine's Day. DRs Kerry and Sandra and I drove to Palm Springs to see a concert.....and just as we were getting ready to find our seats, who should walk in the door but DR Jay. Coincidentally, he had a seat directly behind us.

Great.  I'm happy you all connected.  :)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 15, 2004, 11:37:25 AM
"What the F!@#(*&^$(*&!^@##(@*&^!@#(!@*#^@!!!!!"


My favorite from my Navy days:

"€, Š, Œ, ¤, ¥.,Ø !!!"

der Brucer (hoping Jose doesn't reach for a you-know-what)


Title: Re:KEEP ON KEEPING ON
Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 11:39:33 AM
I once knew a Spanish Jew - his name was Jesus Schwartz.  I once knew an Italian Jew.  His name was Marcello Cohen.  I once knew an Indian Jew.  His name was Little Running Water Bernstein.
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Post by: George on February 15, 2004, 11:40:01 AM
Right now I'm listening to Donald's Putting It Together Evita radio show and Florence Lacey just started to sing.  I love her!  I saw her in Evita in 1986 in Seattle with a friend from college and it was fantastic.  Last week I (finally) ordered her highlights recording of Evita (with a new cover!) and it'll be arriving very soon.  She has not recorded enough.  I have several things that she's done with Jerry Herman...including the DVD "Jerry Herman's Broadway at the Hollywood Bowl."  That was the very first DVD that I ever owned.

My former voice teacher's partner used to work at the Hollywood Bowl when this show happened.  They have a poster with everyone's autograph.  I tried bribing them to give me the poster, but it didn't work. ::)
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Post by: JMK on February 15, 2004, 11:42:15 AM
Believe it or not, my paternal grandmother was an Irish Jew--I didn't believe there could be such a thing, until someone told me the former Mayor of Dublin (I want to say Teddy Kolleck, but I may be making that up) was Jewish.  Oy, Begorrah.
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Post by: Noel on February 15, 2004, 11:45:37 AM
A movie I love that nobody else seems to like is The Tall Guy, which answers the musical question, What if Andrew Lloyd Webber had based a show on The Elephant Man?

DW Joy and I have had no gas in our stove/oven since January 12.  Friday, five workman crossed our threshhold to reconnect it.  Still, no gas.

And we tried DSL, but gave up in frustration --- never got it to work.  And the company finance department was after us for a while, saying we owed them for the service we never got.  I believe that was Verizon.

How can I get the music to One Hand Tied Behind My Back?
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 11:47:48 AM
Panni, an Indian, Jewish ballet dancer-fascinating.   I have never, knowingly, met a person from India that was Jewish.  
The other Indian Jewish person whom I knew very slightly in Toronto was an actor named Brian George. You've probably seen him on TV or in films without thinking  "There's an Indian Jew!" He played Bhaboo (sp.) on Seinfeld -- the restaurant owner Jerry accidentally had deported.
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Post by: td on February 15, 2004, 11:50:13 AM
Quote
td (for some reason) asked for a parody entitled When the Parents Are Asleep...

When the parents are asleep, we're gonna plotz
For sis and I will steal a few tequila shots
When the parents are asleep and you're a kid
No Mom keeps track of your bed; in back of her head
Are eyes that can say "I
Saw what you did."
When the parents are asleep, we'll fool around
We'll see what fun we can have and unravel their every rule
We'll say to the cops, if one stops us, we know that
When the parents are asleep, it's super cool


Now that's what I call parody paradiso!

Thank you, DR NOEL!

Ummmm, let's explain the reason for the wanting:
About the only time I get to be computer savvy and a faithful Dear Reader is once I have my folks settled in for a nap or for the night.  Being an only child and caregiver at this point in time calls for some levity to release the stress - "You got stress?"  "Yes, I guess." - and to share good vibes with all the Dear Readers here.  I nearly had a posting frenzy last night, then decided to watch a few more episodes of ANGEL's third season on dvd.  

And just why is David Boreanaz the perfect actor to watch on February 14th? ? ? (I'm sure that there is at least one DR who knows precisely why).
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 11:51:57 AM
I once knew a Spanish Jew - his name was Jesus Schwartz.  I once knew an Italian Jew.  His name was Marcello Cohen.  I once knew an Indian Jew.  His name was Little Running Water Bernstein.
Funny. But the truth is even funnier. (Not that I'm implying anyone is funnier than our beloved bk.)The Indian Jewish ballet dancer I took acting classes with in Toronto was named Sam Moses. ""Dancing the Prince in Swan Lake tonight will be... Sam Moses." ...I think not.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 11:54:02 AM
, as well as that great country classic "Another Suitcase in Another Hall" from Evita!  Funny, I thought the only Lloyd-Webber/Rice song in this style was "One More Angel in Heaven".
"U.N.C.O.U.P.L.E.D." from "Starlight Express".
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 11:54:23 AM
Believe it or not, my paternal grandmother was an Irish Jew--
Molly Bloom?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 15, 2004, 12:00:07 PM
Actually, Molina's English...his heritage may be Spanish/Italian...but he grew up...and may have been born there, for all I know...in England.

But I also read this article and was a bit baffled about what point they were trying to make.  Isn't the point of theatre to try and strike a chord that is universal to us all?  To find the universal in the specific? A point of human drama that resonates with everybody?  

And I continue to be baffled by a theatre world that screams for colour-blind casting, yet will scream when certain casting is not ethnic-specific.  It seems colour-blind casting is okay as long as that means minorities can be cast in any role. I mean when was the last time you saw a white actor get to essay Othello?  Why does the character even have to be black, persay?  Can't a Moor be Moorish? Perhaps more Arab than black? If Denzel Washington can play Richard III or Laurence Fishburne Henry II in Lion in Winter, why can't Johnathan Price play the Eurasian character in Miss Saigon without a hue and cry? Doesn't a European actor have has much claim on a role that is half- European as an Asian actor on a role that is half-Asian?  Jewish or not, why can't Molina play Tevye?  Is it any more a stretch than when he played Destry years ago?  He's a terrific actor, I'll watch him in anything.

It's called acting, people...pretending to be something you're not.  Isn't that the point?  Creating the illusion of truth?  

Hell, I just read where the Frasier cast is going to do a reading of THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING ERNEST with John Mahoney playing Lady Bracknell.  Won't he be taking away the role from a qualified actress? Let's get a petition up.  

Who said a career in the Arts had to be fair?

Personally, I want to do an all-black...oh, excuse me, African-American...production of FLOWER DRUM SONG.

Robin Anderson, I have an autographed copy of John F. Roy's Guide to Barsoom that he sent me back in 1987 (with his business card still inside it) when I was going off to do my draft of Princess of Mars and was getting in contact with all those people in the Burroughs fan world that I had known in my teen years.  I think I have another copy somewhere, but so many of my poorer editions are stacked on the bookshelves behind the upgraded editions and many of my paper editions and doubles are boxed (which gnaws my soul...books should be displayed).

Lovely Valentine's at home last night, culiminating with a viewing of the original GOODBYE GIRL on TCM.  The perfect Valentine's movie for a couple of old show folk.
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 12:06:05 PM
Believe it or not, my paternal grandmother was an Irish Jew--I didn't believe there could be such a thing,
You must run right out and read James Joyce's ULYSSES. If not the whole book - which ain't easy, to say the least - then Molly Bloom's soliloquy -- one long uninterrupted sentence about love and life and all the good stuff -- ending with the word YES. One of the great Irish-Jewish broads!
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 12:07:35 PM
Sam Moses is funnier than Little Running Water Bernstein?  I think not.

Noel: I have the music in storage.
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 12:11:44 PM
But I also read this article and was a bit baffled about what point they were trying to make.  Isn't the point of theatre to try and strike a chord that is universal to us all?  To find the universal in the specific? A point of human drama that resonates with everybody?  

As Molly bloom would say, Yes! That's what I meant in my post when I said there was lots to argue about in the aricle. I just didn't feel like getting into that aspect of it and writing for another page when I should've been cutting my script. I'm glad you did -- write, that is, not cut my script. But you're also welcome to cut my script.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 15, 2004, 12:16:17 PM
I'm enjoying the Francois Villion pictures.  I've been intrigued by this character ever since I found a tattered copy of the Justin Huntly McCarthy play, If I Were King in our school library when I was about thirteen.  I also have several copies of the novel (one a lovely copy with a dj and photos from the filmed operetta THE VAGABOND KING, based on the book and play).  Years later in a bookstore in Shreveport, LA., I found my own tattered copy of the play which I treasure (would love to do it some day) and I am a fan of the Ronald Colman movie as well.

Noel, I love THE TALL GUY...very funny movie.

Panni, another thought on the Fiddler article.  It seemed to me the author was upset or resented the fact that somehow ANN FRANK & FIDDLER had lost their impact because in the last forty years the Jewish culture has gotten more assimilated and accepted into the American, if not world, mainstream.  So what is the writer advocating? Pogroms and persecution again so certain theatre pieces retain their "Jewish soul"?
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 12:18:14 PM
Sam Moses is funnier than Little Running Water Bernstein?
Only if he wears pointy ears and clown shoes (and a tutu.)
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Post by: MBarnum on February 15, 2004, 12:18:38 PM
Two movies that I absolutely love, that no one else seems to like or even seen, are BABY'S DAY OUT and Bette Midler's ISN'T SHE GREAT. I saw both in the theater and enjoyed them greatly.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 15, 2004, 12:20:14 PM
By the way, I probably won't be at chat tonight as I am heading to South Beach to see George for a late Valentine's day dinner.
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 12:20:41 PM
So what is the writer advocating? Pogroms and persecution again so certain theatre pieces retain their "Jewish soul"?

Hey, anything for a good show!
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 12:22:05 PM
DerBrucer - Thank you for the (Impoverished) Hungarian Quilters link. I thought you were joking, but I looked and there it was.
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 12:38:12 PM
Jewish or not, why can't Molina play Tevye?
I was in a wonderful production of THE DYBBUK many years ago. (Directed by John Hirsch. In Canadian theatrical circles, it's still legendary.) I joined the company in Toronto, the only new person in the cast. The play had been running for some time in Winnipeg and was about to play Toronto and go on tour. I played a friend of the lead. (I posted once about falling off the stage opening night in Ottawa at the National Arts Center in this very production.) My first day of rehearsal I was informed that I was also understudying the lead. Zowie. That left me a little nervous as I had to learn my part and the lead in a company where everybody else knew exactly what they were doing.
However, I felt up to the task - except for one thing. I had to learn to sing all sorts of liturgical stuff - ancient Jewish prayers, etc. Everyone assumed that, being a European Jew, I knew all this. Well, I was an ASSIMILATED European Jew who knew nothing. Time was of the essence and I was embarrassed to tell anyone that I didn't know the melodies (which were quite complex). There was a member of the company with a small role who had been with the production since the beginning. She was very sweet and friendly, could sing and seemed discreet. So I asked her if she could come to my place and sing me the songs. Which she did. I taped her and that's how I learned the Jewish prayers. This young actress was named Celeste Sansregret and she was as Catholic and French-Canadian as can be. But she taught this Hungarian Jew how to sing the Jewish prayers! Which - in a long rambling way - backs up what you said at the top, FS Pogue.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 15, 2004, 12:45:16 PM
MBarnum, my friend Patrick Read Johnson who directed BABY'S DAY OUT will be pleased to hear you liked it.
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Post by: Michael on February 15, 2004, 01:12:38 PM
A movie I love that nobody else seems to like is The Tall Guy, which answers the musical question, What if Andrew Lloyd Webber had based a show on The Elephant Man?

DW Joy and I have had no gas in our stove/oven since January 12.  Friday, five workman crossed our threshhold to reconnect it.  Still, no gas.

And we tried DSL, but gave up in frustration --- never got it to work.  And the company finance department was after us for a while, saying we owed them for the service we never got.  I believe that was Verizon.

How can I get the music to One Hand Tied Behind My Back?

I believe Bruce wrote a parody of The Elephant Man for cable TV before the one in Tall Guy was done.
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Post by: Michael on February 15, 2004, 01:13:50 PM
MBarnum, my friend Patrick Read Johnson who directed BABY'S DAY OUT will be pleased to hear you liked it.

I also enjoyed Baby's Day Out. It was fun to see Joe Mantana in slapstick comedy. I enjoyed it in the way I enjoyed Home Alone.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 15, 2004, 01:17:10 PM
Now, may I VENT, please? When will otherwise intelligent people learn that "Jewish" is not a nationality? I'm just reading a major article/review in the LA Times of FIDDLER ON THE ROOF. The point of the whole thing is that the writer feels that Fiddler has lost whatever true Jewish soul it had and is now just too "universal.".....(God! I just checked the name of the writer of the article. It's "Rosenbaum." So what's HIS excuse?)
Self-importance, perhaps?
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Post by: Matt H. on February 15, 2004, 01:29:32 PM
Happy Birthday to Steve G and Geoff!

A movie I've mentioned here fairly often never gets support from others; it's DREAM GIRL with Betty Hutton. I have seen ISN'T SHE GREAT. Not great but not bad.

I won't be at chat. After a hiatus of several weeks, ALIAS is back on tonight, and it will claim my full attention in high definition.
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Post by: George on February 15, 2004, 01:35:45 PM
First of all, Happy Birthday to the Birthday Boys!

Secondly, I may not be at chat tonight.  I'm going to my sister's new house, which is in the process of being built.  We have to clean the floors...actually, we have to clean up the floor areas so that the flooring (vinyl and rug) can be put down.  A couple of nights ago we vacuumed the vents and the floors in the bathroom and kitchen areas because those areas were going to be done first.  Now we have to get the rest of the house ready.  So, I may not be back in time for chat.

That's going to be my day.  Isn't that exciting?  Isn't that too too? :P
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 15, 2004, 01:37:36 PM
Good afternoon!

OK... Much bettter now.  Some very good Thai food, and, of course, some very good chocolates - 1/2 price Valentine's too!!!  -Just a few pieces.  Three.  That's all.

So, I'm back at Steve's apartment, obviously using his computer (and high-speed cable connection), listening to the OCR of Wicked. and we're about to make some hot chocolate and take down his Christmas tree and decorations(!).   :D -There's not much to take down, and the artificial tree is small - and very nice.  But it will be a nice way to spend a few hours.  Then I'll attempt to step foot back in my apartment...

And for those inquiring minds... WARNING: It was an unpleasant "scene", so, if you read on...

Basically, I got home from brunch, and was getting set to take my shower and shave - the place I go for brunch is usually a little smoky - but very bearable smoke (and I go for my favorite waitress anyway) - so I take my shower after brunch there.. usually.  Well... I digress... I stepped into the bathroom, and something didn't seem right.. something didn't smell right... From the "clues", I'm guessing my roomie's boyfriend - emphasis on "boy" - had a little too much wine last night, and proceeded to get sick in and apparently, on his way to the bathroom this morning - while I was at brunch...  And did NOT clean up all the mess!?!?!?!  And they were both still home!!  Needless to say, I was immediately disgusted, and almost lost my own lunch... well, brunch.  So, I headed back to my bedroom, called Steve, packed a small bag, and headed over here to get cleaned up.  OH!  And I made sure to write a "nice" note in CAPS (contents of which is totally not appropriate for this family website), and placed it on the bathroom door... And gave the back door a pretty SLAM! on the way out.  I'm hoping that woke them up!!!!

So... I'm hoping that everything will be cleaned up when I get back later on.  -My roomie works tonight, so, at least I won't have to deal with him... and, hopefully, I won't be able to deal with the "boy" either.

Well, that's enough of that... The hot chocolate is ready...

Thanks for letting me vent...

-And a public thanks to Steve for being my "oasis" today.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 15, 2004, 02:01:40 PM
Dear DR Jose: You might want to pick up some aerosol air freshener on your way home, because I've a hunch your roomie won't think of it.   :P
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Post by: Jennifer on February 15, 2004, 02:17:23 PM
Good afternoon everyone!

I went out and my foot wasn't hurting. That is until I let my sister's 3 1/2 yr old nephew walk on top of my feet, while I walked him around from room to room. I totally forgot I had a sore right foot. But carrying 40 lbs on it made me remember quickly :)
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 15, 2004, 02:24:23 PM
Huh?  DR Jennifer, wouldn't he be your nephew too?  Unless he's a nephew by marriage, I suppose...
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 15, 2004, 02:48:07 PM
Happy Birthday, DR steveg!

Happy Birthday DR (or DL - Dear Lurker) Geoff!

DR SWW - Thanks for the reminder... I need to make another stop at Target for light bulbs... I'll add air freshener AND Lysol to my list... which, unfortunately, also includes new bathroom rugs.  UGH!

Well - all de-Christmas-ed hear.  Just vacuuming and dusting.  And, in the process, I was able to claim some of my Christmas ornaments.  And seeing all the other ones brought back very fond memories.  *The scary part was remembering which ornaments I bought at a particular store and for half-price!
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Post by: Robin on February 15, 2004, 03:05:52 PM
Two movies that I absolutely love, that no one else seems to like or even seen, are BABY'S DAY OUT and Bette Midler's ISN'T SHE GREAT. I saw both in the theater and enjoyed them greatly.

Oddly enough, I was flipping through the channels earlier today, and caught the last few minutes of Baby's Day Out.  Couldn't form an opinion, but the score over the end credits was very good, in a Carl Stalling kinda way.   I did see Isn't She Great? in the theater, and as always, enjoyed the presence of Mr. Nathan Lane.  The rest of the movie...not so much.  

My two movies everyone hates but me:

Popeye, directed by Robert Altman and starring Robin Williams and Shelley Duvall.  Instead of adapting the 'toon version of Popeye, Altman went back to the Thimble Theatre comic strip, and brought that version of the Popeye mythos to vibrant life.  And the songs are great...especially "He's Large" as sung by Miss Duvall.  I know everyone else in the universe loathes this film, but I think it's perfection.

Battlefield Earth.  The ultimate rotten big-budget SF movie, and a self-aggrandizing vanity project which is still damaging John Travolta's box-office mojo.  One critic described this movie perfectly..."hypnotically foolhardy".  The entire movie seems to have been filmed in one of the villain's lairs in the old "Batman" teevee show; the camera is ALWAYS tilted at an angle.  ALWAYS.  Logic problems, idiotic "satire", and totally, gloriously stupid.  Travolta swears he will make a sequel to this box-office fiasco someday.  I can't wait.  
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Post by: Jennifer on February 15, 2004, 03:12:43 PM
Huh?  DR Jennifer, wouldn't he be your nephew too?  Unless he's a nephew by marriage, I suppose...

Well he calls me Aunt Jennifer, but he's my sister's husband's sister's child.
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 03:29:33 PM
Yes, years before Tall Guy I did a parody of Elephant Man as a musical for the cable comedy show Likely Stories.  Mine was more like Jerry Herman gone amok, and it had a marvelous cast - Anthony Newley as The Elephant Man (the role he was born to play), Carol Channing as The Actress, Sammy Davis, Jr. as Dr. Treves.  
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 03:35:59 PM
Today (your time) would have been Harold Arlen's 99th Birthday. Today (Australian time) is the birthday of Patti Andrews.
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Post by: Robin on February 15, 2004, 03:55:59 PM
Oh, I also liked the movie Supergirl.  A lot.  
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 15, 2004, 04:15:28 PM
Happy Birthday to steveg & GEOFF!   ;D

DR Noel I like THE TALL GUY as well - and DRMATTH I also love DREAM GIRL....well almost any Betty Hutton....but I love to hear and watch her singing "I Wake Up In the Morning Feeling Fine!"  Maybe Paramount will get her out on DVD sooner or later.  I know there are a couple of public domain titles roaming around, but would like to see a nice STUDIO release!  ;D
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 15, 2004, 04:15:57 PM
DR Robin do you have the special edition SUPERGIRL dvd?  
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 04:19:14 PM
I like Helen Slater.  Too bad her career went nowheresville after Supergirl.  

This is such a strange weekend.  Can't quite put my finger on it, but it just seems weird to me.  All that DSL stuff, plus a holiday tomorrow.  
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Post by: Robin on February 15, 2004, 04:19:16 PM
DR Robin do you have the special edition SUPERGIRL dvd?

You betcha!  However, I prefer the theatrical release cut to the bogus "Director's Edition", which plods along gracelessly.  Sometimes, the deleted scenes need to stay deleted.
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 04:25:42 PM
You want to know why, ultimately, The DVD Place will become popular (without anyone really knowing about it, it's already getting quite a bit of traffic)?  Go read Nick Redman's followup to my One From the Heart thoughts.  Brilliant.
http://dvd.allaccessworld.com
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 15, 2004, 04:57:48 PM
Good evening!

Well... I'm back in my apartment.  And the bathroom is clean.  However, I am going to take the bath mats/rugs to the laundromat tomorrow - and I also bought another set at Target earlier just in case.  And, thank you, DR SWW for the air freshener reminder... definitely needed it.  As well as the Lysol.  -Weren't we talking about germs the other day?  But the current set of bath mats definitely need to be laundered - and not just vacuumed - well, at least he vacuumed.  And it will be good to wash the "new" fuzz off the new set I bought - the color of which matches this light/powder blue background here in HHW! :)

So... I'm better now.  Replaced some light bulbs too.  Now I just need to figure out if the "gut" reaction I have whenever I walk past the bathroom is Pavlovian or otherwise.

The only real casualty of the day was the contents of the slow cooker.  I turned it off this morning, and it actually still smells good, but... I won't take any chances with something that's been sitting for ten hours unattended and unrefridgerated.  Food poisoning is that last thing I need right now.  Luckily, since tomorrow is Monday, if I get to the grocery store early enough, I may be able to get a few packs of "thrift meat" at 50% off!  -Well, the have "thrift" stuff every morning.  They put any stuff  - bakery items, prepared foods, meat, poultry, etc. - that expires (sell by) on the "day of" on 1/2 price sale on the "day of" - and sometimes the night before.  Always good for stocking the freezer.

OK - Time to catch up various and sundried internet stuff and watch Trading Spaces Family...

See you at chat...  I hope...
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 15, 2004, 04:59:43 PM
I just read Nick's column on "special features" on the DVD site and I tend to agree that so much of this stuff is just a marketing ploy.  When we lift the veil too often, when we show the man behind the curtain, when we reveal the trick...we asking for deflation and disappointment, a movie can lose its mystique, magic, mystery, and romance.  

It also makes second-guessing arm-chair experts out of every amateur.  Movies become something to dissect, not to get lost in.  

I have found that when you watch most deleted scenes, you see...if you have any notion of dramaturgy...why they were deleted.  While in and of themselves they might have an interesting revelation or shade, they rarely add anything to the whole.  

It's also why I hate rewriting books of musicals.  let the thing be as it was, as it is.  I shudder to think if we started re-writing classic novels or adding shit to them.  That's what movie and stage adaptations are for!
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 15, 2004, 05:13:44 PM
Yes good column from Mr Redman and DR CP pointed out.  I haven't purchased the CASABLANCA special edition, because just the movie is enough for me....

I am watching THE SOUND OF MUSIC now....what lovely scenery and in-tune performances by all.  Eleanor Parker with the ugliest clothes EVER...and Julie Andrews in a sweet performance....I love her "Maria."  And it is so ironic that Marni Nixon is out of synch on a couple of words...LOL.
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Post by: Jane on February 15, 2004, 05:14:00 PM
Panni I remember the Seinfeld episode.

Robin Anderson I liked Popeye.  It was a fun children’s movie.  I didn’t understand why the critics bashed it so much.

JoseSPiano thanks for reminding me of the following story:  Years ago, before we had children, we had a party.  One gal got drunk (we think she arrived drunk), lost it all over our bathroom, and then sneaked out through the bathroom window leaving me to clean up the mess.  

Charles Pogue I saw Janet yesterday.  Did you receive my message with her email address?
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 15, 2004, 05:17:17 PM
Hmmmmmmmm.....does it bother anyone else that Boris Leven's design of the main hallway of the Von Trapp villa is basically his design for the interior of the Benedict house in GIANT with a bit more gingerbread?
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 05:37:36 PM
Has anyone mentioned the BAFTA awards yet?Southern Hempishere winners: LOTR & Peter Weir.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 05:39:10 PM
Would Rock Hudson and James Dean have worn the curtains?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 15, 2004, 05:39:36 PM
Jane, yes, I have got Janet's email.  Thanks.  I've just been remiss in emailing her.  In rewrite throes and having to read a ton of novels with a possibility of maybe wanting to adapt.  It's amazing the tripe that people want to do.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 15, 2004, 05:41:04 PM
Crap!  Did I miss the Baftas on BBCAmerica?
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 05:44:22 PM
You want to know why, ultimately, The DVD Place will become popular (without anyone really knowing about it, it's already getting quite a bit of traffic)?  Go read Nick Redman's followup to my One From the Heart thoughts.  
http://dvd.allaccessworld.com
Just read it. Excellent. I particularly liked (and laughed at) his reference to Mr. C as the Willy Wonka of film.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 15, 2004, 05:47:07 PM
TOMOVOZ....I am sure Jimmy and Rocky did wear curtains at one time or another.....  just NOT in the movies.
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 05:52:02 PM
Yes, for those who thought I was talking about Mr. Redman's column, I was specifically speaking about his response to my thoughts on One From the Heart on the message board.  His column, of course, is excellent, too.

Chat in a mere nine minutes.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 05:52:27 PM
LOL Jack.
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 15, 2004, 05:57:46 PM
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I'm enjoying the Francois Villion pictures.  I've been intrigued by this character ever since I found a tattered copy of the Justin Huntly McCarthy play, If I Were King in our school library when I was about thirteen.  I also have several copies of the novel (one a lovely copy with a dj and photos from the filmed operetta THE VAGABOND KING, based on the book and play).  Years later in a bookstore in Shreveport, LA., I found my own tattered copy of the play which I treasure (would love to do it some day) and I am a fan of the Ronald Colman movie as well.
I'm enjoying the Francois Villion pictures.  I've been intrigued by this character ever since I found a tattered copy of the Justin Huntly McCarthy play, If I Were King in our school library when I was about thirteen.  I also have several copies of the novel (one a lovely copy with a dj and photos from the filmed operetta THE VAGABOND KING, based on the book and play).  Years later in a bookstore in Shreveport, LA., I found my own tattered copy of the play which I treasure (would love to do it some day) and I am a fan of the Ronald Colman movie as well.

Oh, my God, another Villon fan!  I first saw the Ronald Colman movie on TV in college and thought, "This should be a musical."  I didn't discover The Vagabond King till many years later.  Yes, I have McCarthy's play and novel, and maybe about five French editions and five different English translations of his poems.

There is a running Villon theme in my novel Any Other Season (which will yes be on line whenever I get my web page up), including a parody--two parodies, actually, of his best known poem, "La Ballade des dames du temps jadis" (The Ballade of Ladies of Bygone Days).

The French parody is "La Ballade des drames du temps jadis" and has the refrain "Mais où sont les pièces d'antan?"  The English version is "The Ballade of Ladies of Bygone Plays", and the refrain is "But what's become of last year's shows?"  Full of Broadway jokes.

I guess I should post them here, just out of simple vanity, although the poems are a bit long.  Now, as Molly Brown says, "I was hoping someone would ask."
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 05:58:32 PM
Chat in a mere two minutes.
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 06:01:14 PM
Chat in a mere no minutes.  In other words, chat be open.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 15, 2004, 06:25:21 PM
Mr BK says we need MORE people in chat....it is sparkling!
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Post by: Noel on February 15, 2004, 06:38:37 PM
WAY too many computer frustrations today.
My computer still won't do the chat room.  I don't get those little blanks where you put your name, or a button that lets you in.
Joy's computer deleted AOL.  So I got a disc and reinstalled it.  And now she has AOL, but no connection to websites.
So, much as I'd like to, I can't chat.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 15, 2004, 06:45:25 PM
We missed everyone!
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 06:56:12 PM
Despite absences, chat was loverly - it isn't quantity, even though some of my ravings may have led you to believe otherwise - it's quality, and that we had in spades, heart, clubs and diamonds.
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Post by: Emily on February 15, 2004, 07:02:32 PM
whoops - I guess I missed chat

:(
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 15, 2004, 07:14:49 PM
Good Evening!

-Again...

Chat was lively and sparkling.  And what we lacked in quantity, we sure as hell made up in quality.  And quip-ity!

I got the slow cooker cleaned out - which was very easy to do.  Then took some garbage out... and the ground - and the cars - were covered with snow!  It seems to have slowed down now, but we'll see how much more is there in the morning.

And now I'm flipping channels like crazy... "Ellen Degeneres" on Oxygen; the MTM/DvD "The Gin Game" on PBS; "Taste of Harlem" on FoodTV; "Coupling" on BBCAmerica; etc., etc., etc...  -And I need to flip over to the weather on the 10:00 news on the local Fox affiliate in a little bit too.  In any case...

I am much more calmed down right now.  Much more.  -Ah, a Fantasticks reference!  And if my roomie happens to get home before I turn in, I may actually be able to be civil.  But I am hoping to turn in early, since I want and need to get an early start tomorrow morning.

DR Noel - Do you access HHW through the "internal" browser in AOL?  Or do you open an "outside" IE window?  I've found that sometimes when I turn my laptop on, AOL (9.0) kind of hijacks my system, and I have to browse via AOL.  Otherwise, I usually browse outside of AOL.  Mainly so I have more screen space to browse - no pesky tool bars to get in the way.  Oh, what was I trying to say?  Well... I hope you get yours and Joy's computer woes un-woed.

Until later...
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Post by: Jane on February 15, 2004, 07:15:39 PM
Jane, yes, I have got Janet's email.  Thanks.  I've just been remiss in emailing her.  In rewrite throes and having to read a ton of novels with a possibility of maybe wanting to adapt.  It's amazing the tripe that people want to do.

Maybe not so amazing considering the tripe that has been done.  ;D

One of these days Janet might call you and coax you up to Ashland for a visit. :)

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Post by: S. Woody White on February 15, 2004, 07:22:10 PM
TOMOVOZ....I am sure Jimmy and Rocky did wear curtains at one time or another.....  just NOT in the movies.
As designed by Bob Mackie?
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 15, 2004, 08:12:16 PM
Goodnight, All You Swellegant People!
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Post by: Matt H. on February 15, 2004, 08:20:23 PM
I think the design of POPEYE was superlative, and the casting was terrific. But that score for the film just kills it for me. To my ear, those songs were horrible.

I know why I like SUPERGIRL. Faye Dunaway is a hoot and a half, and very few men fill a pair of jeans like the ever gorgeous Hart Bochner.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 15, 2004, 08:24:48 PM
So, DR Matt, what did you think of tonight's Alias?

I thought that giving Grunberg (as Weiss) more to do was a good move.  He's underused.  But the comedy bit with Weisman (Marshall) went over the top.

And the sneeks for the next ep gave too much info (not that we haven't guessed).
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Post by: George on February 15, 2004, 08:50:11 PM
I got back from my sister's a while ago and boy are my arms tired.  No, I didn't fly, I swept...and swept and swept.  My sister having a new house built and has to do certain things to help keep the costs down.  Anyway, one of the things is to keep the areas clean and there was A LOT of drywall dust EVERYWHERE!  Fortunately, she bought some surgical masks, but still a lot of dust was inhaled.  I've been blowing my nose for the last few minutes and, well... it's pretty gross.  I will be doing a lot of laundry tomorrow and since it's Presidents' Day, I don't have to work.  
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 15, 2004, 08:50:28 PM
DR William F. Orr, in looking for my play I discovered I also have the libretto to THE VAGABOND KING.  I also have some sheet music from the show...movie version actually, starring Dennis King...The Song of the Vagabonds.  I also recently picked up a CD of Vagabond King (coupled with Roberta) starring the late, great Alfred Drake as Villon.  I also have a curious verse play Villon (or a "lyric drama", as it is subtitled) by one Robert Gordon Anderson and there's a bio around here somewhere by one Wyndham.  The play is not particularly memorable.  

But I've read little of Villon's poetry and know only the sketchy details of his life.  Most of my fascination comes from the McCarthy play/book and Ronald Colman.  By the by, Rathbone was, I believe, nominated for an Oscar for his role of Louis, the Spider King from the Colman film, If I Were King.  That poem I used to know by memory and did a fair imitation of Colman reciting it.
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Post by: Jane on February 15, 2004, 08:51:45 PM
Good night.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 09:21:11 PM
Seems like a very quiet long weekend for you guys on the other side of the big peaceful pond.  Until introduced to his music by DR Jose, I was not really aware of Matt Bogart's material. I have just discovered he is on my Kander & Ebb CD singing "Kiss Of The Spider Woman". Now there is musical waiting for yet another life - as a movie.
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Post by: TCB on February 15, 2004, 09:24:18 PM
GOOD EVENING!

I hope I am not interupting anything.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 15, 2004, 09:25:37 PM
GOOD EVENING!

I hope I am not interupting anything.
You did that in your very best Hitchcock impersonation, right?
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 09:29:51 PM
Where in tarnation IS everyone?  I iz here.  Iz you?
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Post by: George on February 15, 2004, 09:45:40 PM
I iz here.  I wuz peroozing dvds.allaccessworld.com/ (http://dvds.allaccessworld.com/) (isn't that a good thing?) and it led me to www.bfi.org.uk/ (http://www.bfi.org.uk/) and www.dvdtimes.co.uk/ (http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/), where I was reading the announcement of the region 2 releases of The New Adventures of Wonder Woman - Volume 2 (http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=717) and The Dukes of Hazzard - Volume 2 for 18th August 2003, neither of which are available in the States at all...let alone season 2!  Check this out:

(http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/Covers/wonderwomanvolume2_r2front.jpg)
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Post by: George on February 15, 2004, 09:46:16 PM
And this:

(http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/Covers/thedukesofhazzardvolume2_r2front.jpg)
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 09:46:40 PM
TCB your "interuptions" are always welcome (well nearly always!) here in my little corner of cyberspace. It may be up to us to post the next twenty items of fascinating news. We don't want HHW breaking any records of which shall be all ashamed.
I promise I shall be back  in an hour or so.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 09:48:53 PM
Thanks George. No offence but another two releases that will not be getting me to open my wallet - ever!
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Post by: George on February 15, 2004, 09:53:42 PM
None taken, Tomovoz!  I won't be buying either, either.  I remember watching (and liking) "Wonder Woman," but I never got into "The Dukes of Hazzard."  I don't know why.  Nowadays, I find that I'd rather watch John Schneider and/or Tom Wopat in just about anything much more so than Linda Carter.  ;)
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 10:02:34 PM
What shall I watch now?  Just finished Death in Venice about which more in tomorrow's notes.  I can only do one Visconti a night, so The Damned will have to wait.  Perhaps Clouzot's Le Corbeau or Ronald Neame's Tunes of Glory, or Mr. Antonioni's Blow Up.  Hmmm.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 15, 2004, 10:04:43 PM
Well, I did manage to catch half the BAFTAs, a classy, witty, simple award show sans glitz and hype and over-production.  Stephen Fry is the perfect host.
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Post by: George on February 15, 2004, 10:09:26 PM
According to dvdtimes.co.uk (http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=10480), "Angels In America" is going to be released in a barebones DVD on June 1st.  It's not even listed on amazon.com or hbo.com yet as having a date available.
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Post by: TCB on February 15, 2004, 10:16:24 PM
George -- Thank you for The Dukes of Hazzard poster.  I can't believe that either Mr. Wopat or Mr. Schneider was ever that young.  That poster serves as a vivid reminder of why I much prefer boys after they have become men.

And on the subject of Tom Wopat, I could listen to the BP version of Annie Get Your Gun a thousand times, just to hear Mr. Wopat sing that one line, To hold a man in your arms is wonderful.  Ahh, a guy can dream can't he?
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 10:36:28 PM
Just finished Death in Venice
I haven't seen that film since it came out. How I loved it back then! I bought the soundtrack and played it endlessly. I think that was the year I was in a Mahler/Death frame of mind.
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Post by: Panni on February 15, 2004, 10:42:37 PM
I hit send before I was done... I finally managed to cut my script to the required 100 pages. Tomorrow I'll do another intensive pass and Tuesday it goes to the producers to see if they have more notes before it goes to the network. (They will!) Must get to reading now. I have a book to finish by tomorrow to see if I'd be interested in adapting it. I ate a ton of peanuts tonight and now feel like I'm about to burst. Good night, all.
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 10:50:43 PM
They come, they go, like Grand Hotel.
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 11:02:00 PM
There are no count them no people here.  How sad to be all alone in the world.  I am, however, a majority of one and I don't mind having a conversation with myself.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 15, 2004, 11:04:26 PM
Sorry, BK.  I keep going elsewhere to see if I can find anything interesting to discuss here, and keep coming up empty.

It's that kind of weekend, I guess.   :-\
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 15, 2004, 11:13:23 PM
There is something Rehoboth Beach lacks right now.  There is not a single bookstore in town with a really good magazine rack.

This is not a good thing.  I used to buy all sorts of magazines on a regular basis, back in the days when I was commuting from Long Beach to Glendale and fro again.  What I hadn't realized was that der Brucer had been going through a lot of the stuff I was bringing home, just out of interest.

Tonight, while we were getting some veg to go with dinner (opting for spinach), he found himself in front of the grocery store's magazine rack.  "Y'know, it used to be you could find all sorts of magazines about movies and that sort of stuff," he was grousing.  All he could find was the latest copy of Starlog, not what he normally picked out of my briefcase at all because I would more regularly bring home copies of things like Cinefex.

I've a hunch we're going to have to start subscribing to magazines, something we haven't done for quite some time.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 11:14:30 PM
As oft mentioned at this site, "Death In Venice" is one of my very favourite movies and stars my favourite Movie Star of his time - and my youth. And he was a wonderful writer. The beach scene (The Lido I think) near the end where the colour runs from his hair is heartbreaking.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 11:15:41 PM
"Death in Venice" was also my first introduction to Mahler. "And here's to Mahler".
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 11:20:14 PM
Well, I wrote quite a bit about it in tomorrow's notes, which will be up at midnight.

Denizens!  That's what I'M talkin' about.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 11:24:57 PM
Time for Mr Tacoma to add a salient point that all of us here can discuss for another post or two! A "village" near here is "Tecoma". That might make us distant cousins - a regional difference in spelling.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 11:26:47 PM
It' already tomorrow here BK. Thus my comments about Death In Venice". I look forward to your views.
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Post by: TCB on February 15, 2004, 11:31:32 PM
Speaking of Grand Hotel, the musical, not the movie; I wish I could figure out what it is about that show that I don't enjoy.  I saw a truly splendid production of the show two years ago, and although I could find no fault with the actors {superb) or the direction (excellent), I came away from that show feeling ... I don't know........ unclean.
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 11:31:53 PM
Yes, it's almost tomorrow, yet still it's today - oh, a Jerry Herman reference.  
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 11:53:27 PM
Just read the interview - my favourite. A wonderful piece of work from interviewer and interviewee.
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Post by: bk on February 15, 2004, 11:54:45 PM
You mean the Alet Oury interview?  Or some other interview?
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 15, 2004, 11:56:59 PM
Alet Oury. Wonderful BK.
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Post by: bk on February 16, 2004, 12:01:14 AM
I spoke to her this very day and she's doing swell.  She just read Benjamin Kritzer and called to tell me she loved it.