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Title: SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 12:01:11 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you've made notes on the notes, the notes are noted, and now it is time to post until the cows come home.  But, before you do, here is a sneak peek at Richard Valley's upcoming Scarlet Street review of Kritzerland, which will hopefully whet your appetite for Kritzer Time which, as you've read, is now available for preorder.

"Every now and then a reviewer encounters a book that strikes so close to home that he thinks he’s reading about his own life. This is unfortunate when the book happens to be Les Miserables or Crime and Punishment, but it’s a distinct pleasure when it turns out to be Bruce Kimmel’s Kritzerland (2003), the second volume in his Benjamin Kritzer trilogy.

   Like his brash young hero, Bruce Kimmel was born and raised in California in the 1950s. Author and subject share much in common (including a breezy writing style), which is hardly surprising. What is surprising is the number of times, while reading Kritzerland, that a reviewer sits back and exclaims, “Why, I did that, too!” Preteen Benjamin Kritzer goes to the movies and is annoyed that the other kids aren’t properly respectful of the moviegoing experience. (“Why, I did that, too!”) Benjamin Kritzer attends a personal appearance by The Three Stooges. (“Why, I did that, too!”) Benjamin Kritzer goes to junior high school and hates, loathes, and despises gym class. (“Why, I did that, too!”) Benjamin Kritzer forms a friendship with a chubby kid with whom he performs comedy routines. (“Why, I did that, too!”) Benjamin Kritzer and the chubby kid make their own amateur movies. (“Why, I did that, too!”) Benjamin Kritzer visits Paramount Pictures and the set of LI’L ABNER and . . . (“Okay, I didn’t do that, but I would have if I hadn’t been living in New Jersey!”)

   Kritzerland takes Benjamin from 1958 through the start of the turbulent sixties. Along the way, those who grew up during the same period will encounter some familiar signposts—THE TWILIGHT ZONE, amusement (not theme) parks, “Volare,” “The Purple People Eater,” VERTIGO, VistaVision, Jerry Mahoney, CLUTCH CARGO, QUEEN FOR A DAY, “Put Your Head on My Shoulder,” Fizzies, Flavor Straws, and PSYCHO.
 
   In Kritzerland, Benjamin has more or less made peace with the fact that his family seems to come from Mars and—as indicated by the Bar Mitzvah that brackets the book—is well on his way to becoming a man. If he still pines for the lost Susan Pomeroy of Benjamin Kritzer (2002), he’s not above forming a budding relationship with a new girl in junior high school. And if he again encounters a little childhood heartbreak, he's learned better how to cope with it. Like Daisy Clover singing “You’re Gonna Hear From Me,” he seems poised for great things. Thank God there’s a final chapter of his story yet to come! Meanwhile, Kritzerland is a great place to visit, filled with enduring images and splendid writing."
—Richard Valley
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 02:42:01 AM
Another list to think about.  Sparkling chat last night!  And DRPanni and Mr BK your photo was the hit of the board!

Off to read the PEYTON PLACE review!

First post.  Huzzah!!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Lulu on February 24, 2004, 03:20:51 AM
In all fairness re: Peyton Place, somebody does correct the "reviewer" on the stereo issue.  And somebody else goes so far as to write:

Adam- no offense but you must get some background about fifties scope stereo films and how they were done.
One - the film was always stereo.
Two - "dialog was weaker because it was not centered and dirifted left to right"
Yikes!! its supposed to be that way and folows the people wherever they are on screen. Fox scope films were recorded with THREE hanging mikes to capture stereo dialog.
The dvd is correct.

Basically, this "review forum" is just a message board where people write about DVDs they've seen, so hopefully anybody reading the reviews there takes them with the requisite several grains of salt.

TV SHOWS:

LEAVE IT TO BEAVER     (the one where Larry talks the Beav into smoking his dad's Meerschaum pipe, both kids blissfully unaware that the pipe turns browner as it is smoked - not to mention the fact that Mom and Dad can't miss that aroma of burnt coffee grounds.)

SOAP      (the episode where a drunken Burt stumbles into the apartment of his secretary - who's after him - and somehow winds up standing on the coffee table.  His attempts to get down take several minutes and have to be seen to be believed.)

SCTV       (the wraparound involving Soviets hijacking the SCTV satellite signal in order to foist their heinous CCCP1 programming upon North America.)

FANTASY ISLAND       (the episode where Mr. Roarke battles Satan (Roddy McDowall) in order to save Carol Lynley's immortal soul.)

COLUMBO        ("By Dawn's Early Light."  One of the best episodes of one of my all-time favorite series.  Patrick McGoohan won an Emmy for his role.)

DYNASTY        (The Moldavian Massacre - the definitive shark-jump of an already loopy soap.)

WKRP IN CINCINNATI       ("As God is my witness...I thought turkeys could fly.")

MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000        (Any Joel episode.)

DRAGNET      (the late '60s version.  The one where Joe goes to Frank's house for a poker game with some assorted buddies.  Their only collar comes at the very end, of someone perpetrating the College Student Selling Magazines scam.  The rest of the episode is pure character quirks and weirdness, such as Frank's favorite sandwich, a repulsive mishmosh of peanut butter, crushed garlic, pimento spread, etc.  Runner-up: the one where Frank spends the entire episode lecturing a Timothy Leary type on the dangers of drug abuse.)

GAHHHHHHHHHHH!  I can't think what I want to list as my final choice.  I'll leave it up in the air for now.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: William F. Orr on February 24, 2004, 03:25:33 AM
I can't get to the Peyton Place review.  Anyone else have this problem?  I click on the link, and it sends me to School of Rock.  In fact, when I pass my cursor over them, both links read #1778.  Did they take down the PP (Oh, you said a naughty word!) review because it was PP'ed upon on this site?
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Michael on February 24, 2004, 04:21:11 AM
Barney Miller (The Hashish Episode)
WKRP (The Turkey Episode)
Mary Tyler Moore (Chuckles the Clown Bites The Dust)
Bewitched (Tower of Pisa)
Newhart (The Final Episode...Best last one ever)
The Prisoner
I Love Lucy (The Commercial)
Partridge Family (The Last of Howard)
Laverne and Shirley (Any episode before Shirley left)
Night Court (A Mel Torme Epsiode)
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Ben on February 24, 2004, 04:57:54 AM
Hmmm, I don't have all 10 but DR Michael Shayne has mentioned one of them which is MTM and Chuckles the Clown Bites the Dust. I'll have to think of nine others.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 05:39:55 AM
DR TOMOV OZ do NOT send me the CD you were thinking of burning yesterday, and please tell me you were joking.  Bernadette, Justin, and Eminem?!!

Ahhhhh....yes some of mine have been chosen as well, but here goes:

I LOVE LUCY
Lucy Does a Television Commercial
Lucy Raises Tulips (and drives a wild lawnmover through town)

THE LUCY SHOW
Lucy & Viv Install A Shower
Danfield Volunteer Ladies' Fire Dept

THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW
Coast to Coast Big Mouth

MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW
Chuckles Bites the Dust (of course)

PERRY MASON
The Case of the Bogus Books

AMERICAN BANDSTAND
Any finale of the annual dance contest episode

BEVERLY HILLBILLIES
Granny wants to be possum queen

LAVERNE & SHIRLEY
the girls want to be high fashion models
"Where are your portfolios?"  "We lost them."
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 05:40:52 AM
RE: The "Peyton Place" review.....computers should be registered like guns....not everyone should be writing.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Kerry on February 24, 2004, 05:45:11 AM
PARTS of shows might be more revealing. I did that once with parts of movies--wish I still had a copy of it.

I'll work on this.

1.  I must agree with DR Lulu on the Robert Mulligan's perfromance on that coffeee table or ottoman or whatever it was.  I laughed so hard and was so amazed at his physical grace and ability.  It was worthy of Cirque du Soleil.

2. For a Mary Tyler Moore show, I'd have to choose the pilot---one of the best pilots ever written-- introduces all the characters, sets up the situation.  Only unlike most pilots, it's actually funny; you care about the characters because there is some sign of depth and it is not so overly crammed with trying to work everyting into the first episode.

3. I would also choose the MTM show where all goes wrong (she has a cold, a hair bump, etc) the night of an award show.  Mary at her best.

4. Another MTM show-- I'd be torn between the one where mary sang "One For My Baby" as an audition  (and Georgette ended up being really good doing "Steam Heat.") OR theone where Betty White auditioned for the anchor woman and read the copy about a village covered in an avalanche -- but done with a  great big smile and in typical Sue Ann Nivens Style.

5. The Bob Newhart Show about Mr. Death.

6. The Bob show about writing for the big purple dinosaur and where Trisha is displeased about moving out.  Cynthia Stevenson's scene with Lisa Kudrow and Andrew Bilgore is a calssic.

7.The final Newhart show.

8. Lucy does a commercial.  One of the few "classic" episodes that isn't overrrated and is funny each time (INMHO)

9.Probably a "Mad About  You" episode, but I'm not sure which one--one in the first  couple of years.

10. Some other episode of "Soap" but am not sure which one.

11. A "Hope and Gloria" episode- but ony after Taylor Negron was added.

12. The first episode of "The Boys" with Norman Fell (the show briefly on Showtime).

13.  The episode about Benny's funeral on "The Boys."

14.  An episode of "Columbo"  --- just don't know which one.  The pilot with Gene Barry was awfully well done, but the score drove me crazy.

15.  Almost any SCTV episode, but i'd really like to just pick bits from various episodes.

OK, so that's more than 10--- that's better than I normally do.

None of this even includes "Hunk TV"-- an important part of my life and wonder years.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 24, 2004, 06:01:39 AM
BK, you will love being Speedy BK.  As someone who finally made the leap last summer, I can assure you that once you go broadband, you never go back (except when you dial-in to your AOL alias account to anonymously annoy certain people I could mention...)  And as I believe Dr. Suess once said, "Oh, the porn sites you will go!"

Favorite TV episodes?  I was talking to someone on ratm about this just last night...
Any Laugh-In that had Ruth Buzzi, JoAnne Worley, Goldie Hawn and Lily Tomlin on board.
Thirtysomething--two episodes here--Gary's funeral and Ellen's wedding.  See Dan cry.  Cry, boy, cry!
Phyllis--the Cloris Leachman MTM spin-off.  Judith Lowry's wedding (I guess I have a thing for weddings.)
All in the Family--Edith's menopause.  The best line ever written for a sit-com: "We're not going to Disney World!  Or any other world!"
Maude--the one where Maude think's her Aunt Tinkie has died in a plane crash.
St. Elsewhere--Nurse Daniels shoots and kills rapist Dr. White--a shocker!
Dark Shadows--any episode where the Reverand Trask got walled up.
Upstairs, Downstairs--the final episode.
Seinfeld--Master of their domains.
Fraiser--the one where the station manager thinks Fraiser is gay.


Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 06:19:20 AM
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Oh, my Lord, I have just read the stupidest most ill-written "review" ever - just mosey on over to www.hometheatreforum.com, scroll down to DVD software and find the Peyton Place "review".  And people tell this dweeb "good job, man".  His first line is something about how he hates to watch classic films but he has to for his "reviews".  He ends up liking them, though, so that's good.  The "review" is rife with errors, both grammatical and factual.  For instance, he says he doesn't know how they got such great stereo sound from a mono film.  Oops.  Stereo film, bucko.  I mean, it's just nauseatingly amusing.

When I read this "review" late last night, I though about you, BK!  Now, maybe I don't have to pick on the seemingly more intelligent reviews of my personal bugaboo (www.dvdmg.com).
I was shocked! I was aghast!  I was mortified!  I found the review to be ridiculous in the extreme.  Thank the lord that people like this do NOT GET PAID to write their reviews; on this one, there would've been a demand for money returned!  Oy!
Not to be stuck up, but, I know that I have a way or two with a word when writing a review, and I ALWAYS have done my homework BEFORE putting pen to paper then fingers to keyboard.  I must be doing something right for Richard Valley to have put me on the staff at Scarlet Street, BUT, when I'm doing wrong, I appreciate being told and try to do better the next time.

I'll be back with TOD, but, immediately off the top of my head:
THE X FILES: "The Post-Modern Prometheus," which contains all the themes of THE X FILES, throws in some Universal Horror, The Weekly World News, black and white cinematography,  the brilliant pairing of Duchovny and Anderson, Eric Stoltz' make-up from MASK and CHER! ! !
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: William E. Lurie on February 24, 2004, 06:23:38 AM
BK - I will definitely be pre-ordering in a week or so  but I want to make a credit card payment first.  However please include me in your "count".

TV series I'd include:
The Howdy Doody Show
Jamie (a mid-50s series starring Brandon DeWilde)
I Love Lucy
East Side West Side
St. Elsewhere
Brothers (Showtime Sitcom)
An American Family (the PBS documentary from the 70s, not the recent series of the same name)
Pink Lady and Jeff
Hope and Faith

Did Shirley leave L&S before the series ended?  As much as I liked the female cast, I could not stand the regular male cast (regular cast BK - not special guests) so I rarely watched it.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 06:50:58 AM
I forgot The Twilight Zone and a bunch of others...grrrrrrrr....  
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 07:20:10 AM
I can't get to the Peyton Place review.  Anyone else have this problem?  

Yes, but I'm a techno-nerd so I found it anyway.

Herewith from der Brucer's "Links for Dummies":

God Awful Review (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=186141)

Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: MBarnum on February 24, 2004, 07:26:56 AM
TV show compilation:

ADAM-12 episode where Reed and Malloy help out a single mom whose car has been stolen on Christmas Eve..with all her kid's Christmas presents in the trunk.

Beverly Hillbillies: Any episode where Joi Lansing guest stars

PERRY MASON: Case of the Bogus Book with guest star Allison Hayes and Case of the Madcap Modiste with guest stars Dorothy Neumann and Leslie Parrish (if I was making the compilation for our own BK)

MELROSE PLACE: Any old episode

FLIPPER: Any episode where Brian Kelly takes his shirt off.

GILLIGAN'S ISLAND: The episode where Mary Ann gets bonked on the head and thinks that she is Ginger.

Jack Benny Show: Just about any episode

I LOVE LUCY: The vitametavegamin episode

THUNDERBIRDS: Just about any episode
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 07:28:33 AM
RE: The "Peyton Place" review.....computers should be registered like guns....not everyone should be writing.

Well, I'm a big fan of personal gun ownership - it's the conceal and carry bit that's troublesome.

I think every idiot should be free to write, but maybe there should be a license to publish!

If we let every idiot publish reviews of his choice, and allowed every creative author/director/publisher to carry a gun, we could turn an old adage on its end:

"PUBLISH AND PERSISH"

der Brucer (wanting to ask DR JRand - what would you list as the qualifications to be a DVD reviewer?)
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 07:38:02 AM


   Like his brash young hero, Bruce Kimmel was born

Brash Bruce - I like the sound of that! (Now try saying it six times, very fast!)

der Brasher Brucer
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 07:41:03 AM
I forgot The Twilight Zone and a bunch of others...grrrrrrrr....  

And I would have thought "Dark Shadows" would be on your list - not (necessarily) implying a familal resemblence.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Matt H. on February 24, 2004, 07:53:12 AM
Southern trash, BK? As a born and bred Southerner, perhaps you could elaborate?

My TV/video compilation:

SUPERMAN - "The Woman in Black"

THE TWILIGHT ZONE - "Eye of the Beholder"

THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW - "That's My Boy"

THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW - "The Good Time News" (but there are dozens of others)

KOLCHAK: THE NIGHT STALKER - "Horror in the Heights"

MASH - "Dear Sigmund"

MURDER SHE WROTE - "The Flight of the Dixie Damsel"

OZ - "Nick o' Time"

FRIENDS - "The One Hundredth"

WILL & GRACE - "My Brother's Keeper I and II"
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 07:54:46 AM
Uh........yes maybe a license to publish....no...you're right freedom of speech...even if....der Brucer is correct.

A knowledge of movies beyond what you might have seen yesterday would be helpful as a reviewer!   LOL.

Dark Shadows...yes especially Grayson Hall!  And The Young and the Restless from the 1970's with Jill and Snapper Foster.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Matt H. on February 24, 2004, 07:59:04 AM
I can't read those "reviews" or even views on classic movies generally speaking. I get so angry and outraged that such misinformation is being spewed about that I just can't go there. Just reading the excerpts mentioned made me so angry I wanted to fling my computer against the wall. With libraries full of books on the history of cinema and the internet just a click away which can lead you to virtually any information past or present about movies, such an error-prone and ill-written piece of crap shouldn't happen. But it does and too often.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: William F. Orr on February 24, 2004, 07:59:45 AM
Yes, but I'm a techno-nerd so I found it anyway.

Herewith from der Brucer's "Links for Dummies":

God Awful Review (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=186141)

Thanks, Der.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 08:24:40 AM
I get so angry and outraged that such misinformation is being spewed about that I just can't go there....With libraries full of books ...

Well, I'm not sure Libraries are the answer to "misinformation";  how about this book :Protocols of the Elders of Zion (http://ddickerson.igc.org/protocols.html)?

Surely most of us would agree that our current print media is rife with misinformation - The New York Times is becoming about as reliable as the National Enquirer.

I guess the best we can do we we find misinformative crap is suggest a factual rebutal:

der Brucer debunks the Reviewer:

Reviewer:

Quote
What I like about these older movies is….there is no special effects! No explosions, no crashes, no foul language.

This in reference to a film released in 1957.
I wonder what, if any, special effects were around about that time?

The year before Ben Hur parted the Red Sea and Roby the Robot showed up on:

(http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/12/53/61m.jpg)

In 1953 we had
(http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/09/97/30m.jpg)
which came close on the heels of
(http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/96/37/01m.jpg)

The decade started with the documentary "Destination Moon".

So I respectfully suggest you get your facts straight, A**hole.

Your humble correspondent,
der Stupid Critic Brasher Brucer
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Matt H. on February 24, 2004, 08:40:28 AM
You can't discount an entire library due to a few books that might have some misinformation. Better to find books from RELIABLE sources/authors and use those for some personal education. But these "reviewers" would never deign to occupy their time educating themselves on the subject of their expertise. It's easier to stay ignorant.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 08:50:40 AM
Lulu: That site posits itself as the be-all and end-all of things DVD, and their "reviewers" are writing official "reviews" not telling their thoughts on a message board.  

Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 08:51:36 AM
Southern trash melodrama, MattH.  A genre, just like noir, romantic comedy, soap opera, etc.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Panni on February 24, 2004, 08:55:35 AM
Good morning. Only have a few moments - much to do.
Congrats on the Kritzerland review, bk!

Favorite episodes: CHUCKLES BITES THE DUST. The perfect half hour. I used to use it whenever I was asked to give a talk on writing for television. Having written almost everything now - movies, episodic, sitcoms, etc. - I still maintain that if you can write a superb half hour comedy, you can write anything. (Yes, there are exceptions - but I'm making a blanket statement here - if only we had a beach and Annette and Frankie...) Anyway, to get back to my point... You can dissect that episode and it will teach you almost everything you need to know about dramatic writing - at the same time as it makes you cry and pee your pants laughing. End of lecture.

As for others - almost any TWILIGHT ZONE - even the bad ones were good.

DICK VAN DYKE - there are too many favorites to pick one. That show is like a warm bath for me. I just lie back and relax and know it will be good.

SCTV - pick an episode.

SEEING THINGS - Only some of the Canadians will know this one. (Or people who used to watch late night PBS in NY.) The episode in which Kate Reid played the murderous mother of a midget. I don't remember the title. Totally surreal and funny. And I have to admit to a slight conflict of interest because I wrote it.

I've spent more time on this than I'd intended. Back later with more faves.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 09:01:28 AM
Yes Mr Richard Valley has written a superb review of Kritzerland!  Bring on Scarlet Street #50!!!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Kerry on February 24, 2004, 09:06:38 AM
Then there's so many episodes of "Murphy Brown," the episode of "Coach" where one of the players announced he was gay (was  that our very own Brent Barrett?)-- a Classic episode with some priceless moments.  Though they would not be the best, I was definitely affected by things like "Gilligan's Island" and others.   I mean I cried when Pebbles was born and when Buffie lost Mrs. Beasley.  (Do NOT tell anyone this)

Commercials afffected us just as much.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 24, 2004, 09:39:09 AM
Dark Shadows...yes especially Grayson Hall!  


I loved Grayson Hall.  She didn't have half the career she should have had.  I wish I had seen her in HAPPY END.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 09:58:35 AM
Say, where in tarnation IS everyone?  Well, I'm now Speedy BK.  Mr. Cable Modem Man came here and got me wired in no time flat.  I don't really see much of a difference yet except when I logged on to AOL I saw VIDEO.  That was cooliscious.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 10:05:32 AM
TV show compilation:


FLIPPER: Any episode where Brian Kelly takes his shirt off.



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Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: William E. Lurie on February 24, 2004, 10:10:09 AM
They have announced the release date for the CD of BOUNCE (aka GOLD, aka WISE GUYS):  4/27/04
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 24, 2004, 10:14:39 AM
Southern trash melodrama, MattH.  A genre, just like noir, romantic comedy, soap opera, etc.

I think MattH shares my amazement that folks often designate dramas set in the south with actors using southern accents as "southern trash."  I don't doubt BK's comment about it being a Hollywood "genre" at all.  Hollywood has reveled in presenting southerners in all sorts of less-than-ideal ways.

IMO, what makes a movie "trash" is not the region in which it is set.  What makes it trash is the writers of the screenplay.  To that end, there is definitely northern trash and eastern trash and western trash, yet you never see the phrase used at all as one descriptive of anything.  There is also "trailer trash", but that does not apply to everyone who lives in a trailer any more than "southern trash" applies to a movie about folks living in the south.    So...when a movie about some folks living in a tenement in NYC is done, they're poor, neglected, needy, the impoverished, possibly drug addicts.  Set that same movie in New Orleans and the folks are "trash."

There is trashy behavior aplenty in "The Chase."  But I think I'd reserve the phrase for "Hurry, Sundown," Otto Preminger's homage to his view of what constitutes "southern trash."

Over at the DVD site, BK shared some thoughts on "Walk on the Wild Side" and classified it as "overheated southern trash".  I ran right out and bought it over the weekend.  I've been southern all my life, and I've had my share of overheated moments.  And, yes, I've had a trashy experience or two.  So I'm ... like... interested.

But as a southerner, I have to say we southerns believe only a southerner can truly distinguish between what's southern normal and southern trash.  :D  

In quite a few movies and TV shows, folks poke fun and mistake the southern accents for ignorance and the slowness of a drawl for dimwittedness, but t'aint necessarily so...in fact, it's hardly ever so.

Just so's y'all know....
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 10:14:46 AM
SEEING THINGS - Only some of the Canadians will know this one. (Or people who used to watch late night PBS in NY.) The episode in which Kate Reid played the murderous mother of a midget. I don't remember the title. Totally surreal and funny. And I have to admit to a slight conflict of interest because I wrote it.


Is this the one?

13. Someone is Watching
gs: Henry Beckman (Harper) Mary Ann Coles (Lenore) Mark Parr (Davie) Kate Reid (Hannah) Chuck Shamata (Gary) Jayne Healey () Sean Hewitt () Libbie Lennie ()  

Heather's new home creates visions of bleeding pictures, creepy neighbors, and a horrific suicide for Louie.
 

b: 22-Jan-1984  

der Brucer (wondering about Panni's dreams)
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 24, 2004, 10:18:25 AM
They have announced the release date for the CD of BOUNCE (aka GOLD, aka WISE GUYS):  4/27/04

That comes hot on the heels of the Assassins opening.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 24, 2004, 10:20:37 AM
Good Afternoon!

Well, I'm not as sore this morning as I thought I would be after yesterday's "plunge back into fitness".  We'll see how I feel after I do my Pilates this afternoon.  I just wish it wasn't such a gray day outside.  It's always kind of depressing when I go to open the blinds, and then realize that I already have.  Ah, well...

Topic of the Day:

The Carol Burnett Show - Especially the Gone with the Wind take-off!  And all of those production numbers!  And I still smile when I think back to that spoof commercial where Vicki Lawrence says, "I'm cleaning my oven while I sleep." -With her feet in the oven!

I Love Lucy - Many, many, many of them - if not all.  The commercial is always welcome viewing, as is the chocolate factory.

Night Gallery - Some of these really scared me.

The Night Stalker - Some of these really scared me too.

Gilligan's Island - Any episode where they tried to get off the island... ;)

thirtysomething - I was hooked on this show.  And one of my college directors was hooked on this show too.  So much so that Tuesday night rehearsals started slightly earlier, and ended earlier so that we would be home by 10:00.

A Year in the Life - This series deserved a much longer life.

Good Times - James' funeral.  "Damn! Damn! Damn!!!"

Sex & The City - The final two episodes.

Happy Days - Happy memories.  The potato salad episode sticks in my mind right now.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 24, 2004, 10:24:19 AM
BK - Now that you have cable... -And you may be doing this already, be sure to browse the web "outside" of AOL.  I'm actually one of the few who likes AOL, but I will agree that with the latest releases, there's soo much stuff on the front page that the initial load can be very slow.  However, it's amazing how fast some sites will load in it's own IE window.  And since you are now on cable modem, you can do that!  And set a new home page!  And just click to your hearts content!  *And be sure your virus definitions are up to date.
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Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 10:29:23 AM
I'm enjoying being Speedy BK.  I've been surfing via AOL and then IE.
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Post by: Ben on February 24, 2004, 10:35:02 AM
Jose, you make me think you're older than you really are :-) I loved 30 Something. I know that it was roundly dismissed and trashed by many people as being nothing more than Yuppie angst, but I found much of the show very beautifully done and sometimes quite touching. I watched it when it was first broadcast in the 80s on ABC and then when Bravo put it on (butchering it in the process) I watched it all again from the beginning. Peter Frechette and David Marshall Grant were wonderful as the gay men set up by their Philadelphia friends. Some other plot developments I thought were very well handled were the episodes with Corey Parker and Melanie Mayron with the older/younger situation and the difficulties of accepting a new person into your tight little group (Patricia Kalember as Peter's girlfriend Susannah Hart). Also Polly Draper's issues with dating a married and then separated man. I could go on, but I won't. The very first episodes certainly had their problems and I can see why some people didn't watch the entire series if they started with Episode 1 but if you hung on, IMHO (in my humble opinion) there was some mighty good work on that show. That's my two cents.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 10:37:50 AM
I especially liked her in one DS episode when she was playing a Gypsy fortune teller and there was a fly buzzing around her....for the entire scene.

Speaking of Ruth Buzzi - remember her Hollywood Gossip Columnist on Laugh-in....she was a Rona Barrett type woman who said the most awful things about people....LOL
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 24, 2004, 10:52:57 AM
Jose, you make me think you're older than you really are :-) I loved 30 Something. I know that it was roundly dismissed and trashed by many people as being nothing more than Yuppie angst, ...

No.  The term from now on is Yuppie Trash.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 24, 2004, 10:55:53 AM
DR Lulu, I like that you mentioned Mystery Science Theater 3000 as that was one of my favorite shows! I rarely mention that program on any forum as there are so many people who seem to rabidly dislike it, but since you mentioned it I would be most curious to know what some of your favorite episodes are.

My faves that just have me rolling on the floor laughing are:

Horror of Party Beach
Sky Divers
Manos Hands of Fate
The Werewolf (I think that is the title...it is a 1980s movie with a Russian gal who has a difficult time pronouncing the word werewolf)
Gammera, the Invincible
Night of the Blood Beast
Space Children

Oh, my gosh there are so many funny ones...and I haven't even seen 1/2 of the episodes that showed on TV.

Anyone else who loved that show feel free to chime-in on your favorites.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 24, 2004, 10:58:56 AM
No.  The term from now on is Yuppie Trash.

LOL.  

And from there we'll get "gangsta trash" and "blue collar urban trash" et.al.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 11:02:22 AM
I liked 30Something a lot....mostly because I liked the performers.

And of course I enjoyed MST3K - particularly with Joel.  My favorite is still Ator in CAVE DWELLERS although I also like NIGHT OF THE BLOOD BEAST and TEENAGERS FROM OUTER SPACE.
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Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 11:04:22 AM
DR Lulu, I like that you mentioned Mystery Science Theater 3000 as that was one of my favorite shows! I rarely mention that program on any forum as there are so many people who seem to rabidly dislike it, but since you mentioned it I would be most curious to know what some of your favorite episodes are.

My faves that just have me rolling on the floor laughing are:

Horror of Party Beach
Sky Divers
Manos Hands of Fate
The Werewolf (I think that is the title...it is a 1980s movie with a Russian gal who has a difficult time pronouncing the word werewolf)
Gammera, the Invincible
Night of the Blood Beast
Space Children

Oh, my gosh there are so many funny ones...and I haven't even seen 1/2 of the episodes that showed on TV.

Anyone else who loved that show feel free to chime-in on your favorites.




Space Children?  I think I saw that one in the theater when I was a kid.  Is that the one where the children of NASA employees find this kind of throbbing rock (i.e. an alien life form ) that came down to earth to warn us against trying to send rockets into outer space?  And the children break into Cape Canaveral and sabotage the rocket launch?


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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 11:06:24 AM
WARNING: Never ask a person on Social Security to reminisce.

Favorite TV (from my youth):

In the beginning:
(http://www.fiftiesweb.com/hopalong-3.jpg)

and the ultimate in PC imperfection;
(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2995020/46665837.jpg)
But look at the cast:

Beulah:      Ethel Waters
     Hattie McDaniel
     Louise Beavers
Harry Henderson:
      William Post, Jr.
     David Bruce
Alice Henderson:
      Ginger Jones
     Jane Frazee
Donnie Henderson:
      Clifford Sales
     Stuffy Singer
Oriole:      Butterfly McQueen
     Ruby Dandridge
Bill Jackson:
      Percy "Bud" Harris
     Dooley Wilson
     Ernest Whitman

Then there was "Your Hit Parade" with the improbable named Snooky Lanson and Dorothy Collins before she lost her mind. (Imagine: Singers advertising cigarettes!)

Studio One - "The Laugh Maker" (1953) is an intriguing drama about a comedian, starring Jackie Gleason and Art Carney; co-starring a then skinny Mrs “Born Yesterday” Garson Kanin -Marian Seldes (“Deathtrap”)

[Note:  From 1967 to 1991 (Marian) was a faculty member of the Juilliard School of Drama, where her students included Kevin Kline, Patti LuPone, Kevin Spacey, and Laura Linney.]

Philco Television Playhouse:

Paddy Chayefsky's  "Marty," aired on 24 May 1953. Directed by Delbert Mann, the production starred Rod Steiger as in the title role.

Horton Foote's "A Trip to Bountiful" later staged on Broadway in the 1950s and reshot as a film in the 1980s. Actress Geraldine Paige won an Oscar for Best Actress for her performance in the film.

And then there was Loretta Young - who gave new meaning to "opening doors".

There was my favorite teacher "Our Miss Brooks", "My Friend Irma", My Little Margie", and Sondheim's favorite "Topper".

Then, of course:

"As the early morning bugle call of the covered wagon trains fades away among the echoes, another true Death Valley Days is presented by the famous Borax family of products- 20 Mule Team Borax and Boraxo. "

"Mission Impossible" - done right!

der Brucer

Guilty pleasure form the 90's
(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2995020/46665864.jpg)







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Post by: William F. Orr on February 24, 2004, 11:06:25 AM
Here is your latest report from Long Island Trash.

I had an orgy of buying yesterday, both on hhw (Kritzer Time, oh boy!) and on amazon, where I managed to order used copies of Dragonheart, the novelization by our very own DR Charles Pogue and Night of the Hunter, the CD produced by our very own DW BK, as well as the DVD of Elaine Stritch at Liberty; the CD of Kate Mulgrew in Tea at Five; Jewish Thighs on Broadway by our very own PennyO; Sherry; Nick and Nora; It's a Bird... It's a Plane... It's Superman (so do I file it under I or S?); the new Wonderful Town; OCRs of Seesaw, House of Flowers and Jerry Herman's Parade and the book Colored Lights by John Kander.

I love ordering on-line, because when the books and CDs arrive it's like a Christmas present.
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Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 11:09:49 AM
I feel the same way DR WFO...the mailman is like Santa Claus.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh....DRJose.....that episode of GOOD TIMES was so sad, and Esther Rolle was devastating....and remember GT was a spin off from MAUDE.....Rolle had played Maude's maid for a couple of seasons before she and her family moved to Chicago.  "Damn...damn...damn!"  There goes the punch bowl!

Only thing that made me sadder was the first episode of Archie's Place when Archie went back home and found Edith's slippers under the bed.....
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: MBarnum on February 24, 2004, 11:11:25 AM
Space Children?  I think I saw that one in the theater when I was a kid.  Is that the one where the children of NASA employees find this kind of throbbing rock (i.e. an alien life form ) that came down to earth to warn us against trying to send rockets into outer space?  And the children break into Cape Canaveral and sabotage the rocket launch?





Indeed that is the same film! A Universal-International release starring one of my fave actresses Peggy Webber (whose interview is coming up in a future issue of Scarlet Street) and as one of her sons the young Mr. Johnny Crawford.
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Post by: Jane on February 24, 2004, 11:15:06 AM


SEEING THINGS - Only some of the Canadians will know this one. (Or people who used to watch late night PBS in NY.) The episode in which Kate Reid played the murderous mother of a midget. I don't remember the title. Totally surreal and funny. And I have to admit to a slight conflict of interest because I wrote it.

LOL-that is great.   :)
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Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 11:16:35 AM



THE Johnny Crawford?  When I was a kid I used to dream that I was Johnny Crawford, so that Chuck Conners could be my father.


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Post by: William E. Lurie on February 24, 2004, 11:16:50 AM
That comes hot on the heels of the Assassins opening.

New York is having an unofficial Sondheim festival this year.  In addition to the BOUNCE CD and ASSASSINS, we have

* The current Broadway GYPSY

* DVD Releases of the Hearn/Lansbury SWEENY TODD and "The Last of Shelia"

* SWEENEY TODD at City Opera

* MERRILY WE ROLL ALONG in Brooklyn

* A revised version of THE FROGS at Lincoln Center

* Roundabout's PACIFIC OVERTURES

* A new compilation revue of Sondheim at Carnegie Hall
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 24, 2004, 11:16:58 AM
Here is your latest report from Long Island Trash.

I love ordering on-line, because when the books and CDs arrive it's like a Christmas present.

Aint' it the truth!  I love getting packages!  I don't mind at all that they're from ME!

:D
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 11:19:39 AM
AND Space Children also featured the mobile home from THE LONG LONG TRAILER!!
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Post by: Jane on February 24, 2004, 11:23:10 AM
Good vibes to Swishy Sarah!
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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 11:25:52 AM
Peter Frechette and David Marshall Grant were wonderful as the gay men set up by their Philadelphia friends.

Gee, sounds like a prequel to "Brothers", which debuted on Showtime 20 years ago.

der Brucer (who tries to never miss a Philly show)
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Post by: elmore3003 on February 24, 2004, 11:31:04 AM
I knew Grayson Hall slightly through a friend of a friend (that you never know) and she was a lovely lady; she promised to tell me about the HAPPY END traumas - Shirley Knight's being replace by Meryl Streep, Bob Gunton taking over Bill's role, the director being replaced - but never did.  I still can't believe it wasn't recorded as a cast album.

TV Shows:  due to drugs, sex, rock-n-roll, and theatre work, my television memory is blurry, but I recall with affection these few:

I LOVE LUCY:  the William Holden episode with the burning nose
I LOVE LUCY:  the Talullah Bankhead episode
CAROL BURNETT:  "Babes in Barns"
                         "Gone with the Wind"
                         "Mildred Fierce"
CAR 54, WHERE ARE YOU:  Charlotte Rae thinking she's going to be killed
BONANZA:  the Vaugn Meader parody ofCyrano de Bergerac
TWILIGHT ZONE:  Agnes Morehead

What I really recall with affection were the specials:  Max Liebman's BABES IN TOYLAND, which really stank in a recent viewing, A CONNECTICUT YANKEE and  DEAREST ENEMY, the Hallmark Hall of Fame presentations, the Rosalind Russell WONDERFUL TOWN.  There was a ONE TOUCH OF VENUS I was much too young to understand, and a wonderful KISS ME, KATE with Alfred Drake that might have been a Hallmark presentation, and which recently got rebroadcast in New York.


Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 11:44:47 AM
I have personal firewall plus now, how about that?  No one shall hack my computer, baby.

I am Speedy BK, which is more than I can say about this here site today.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 24, 2004, 11:45:52 AM
DR TOMOV OZ do NOT send me the CD you were thinking of burning yesterday, and please tell me you were joking.  Bernadette, Justin, and Eminem?!!


Too late Jack!
The worry is that I could indeed do it from my collection!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 11:47:40 AM



THE Johnny Crawford?  When I was a kid I used to dream that I was Johnny Crawford, so that Chuck Conners could be my father.




Me, I really started lusting after Johnny Crawford after seeing THE NAKED APE. (not to be confused with BK's NAKED SPACE).
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 11:48:24 AM
Oh, DERBRUCER - you're coming up as red and x rated. . .if you catch my drift.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on February 24, 2004, 11:49:49 AM
Maybe more after Breakfast! I loved all M.A.S.H episodes with the psychiatrist (semi regular cast member) but my absolute favourite was the "new suit" episode with the striped fabric.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 11:50:22 AM
one of my fave actresses Peggy Webber

This Peggy Webber:

(http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/99/01/12m.jpg)

which film looks like a DR td screenplay written as a homage to John Van Druten's "Gaslight".

der Brucer (who checks his mailbox daily for his first issue of Scarlet Street - and then he can have a letters-to-the-editors frenzy!)
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 11:51:46 AM
Yours truly is supposed to have two DVD reviews in the new SS....time will tell.

MR BK is now a Cable Modemite!!!  Welcome to the trailer park!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 11:55:46 AM

MR BK is now a Cable Modemite!!!  Welcome to the trailer park!

And if he should pick up needle and thread, would he become a sodomite?

der Brucer (happy that HHW has not discovered one of these:

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2995020/46665814.jpg)

Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 11:58:19 AM
I just uncovered a picture of DR MBarnum interviewing a reviewer at HTF:

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2995020/46665731.jpg)
der Brucer (MBarnum on the left!)

Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Panni on February 24, 2004, 11:59:53 AM
Is this the one?
Heather's new home creates visions of bleeding pictures, creepy neighbors, and a horrific suicide for Louie.
That's it!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: William F. Orr on February 24, 2004, 12:01:23 PM
And here is your French Trash François Villon picture for today.  Not quite as attractive as BK in a tux and PennyO in a slinky afternoon gown, I admit.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 12:01:30 PM
der Brucer I can't see your pictures!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jane on February 24, 2004, 12:07:31 PM
DerBrucer is that a picture of Hopalong Cassidy and Topper?
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 12:08:40 PM
Mr. Cable Modem Man came here and got me wired in no time flat.

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2995020/46660350.jpg)

der Brucer (film at 11)
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Post by: Panni on February 24, 2004, 12:09:08 PM
Not quite as attractive as BK in a tux and PennyO in a slinky afternoon gown, I admit.

Hey! That were ME in the slinky gown- PanniS. Sometimes I get PennyO's mail, too. I'd change my posting name to my real name - Anna - to avoid further  confusion but I've forgotten my password (if I ever knew it) and have tried to get a new Password to no avail.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 12:10:35 PM
LOL we knew who it was!

Easy way to remember:

PennyO for your thoughts  ;)

Panni - vision  ;D
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: William F. Orr on February 24, 2004, 12:12:51 PM
My all-time favorite episode of M*A*S*H* is the one about the pianist who lost a hand.  Ending with Charles expressing his deep disappointment that he cannot play, not well enough, because he has the hands (he is a surgeon, after all) but hasn't the talent.  A real weeper.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 12:12:58 PM
elmore3003 -- Vaughn Meader was on Bonanza?  I can't even find a reference to that on the internet.  How weird!  Are you sure you don't mean Vaughan Monroe?
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 12:13:37 PM
Oh, DERBRUCER - you're coming up as red and x rated. . .if you catch my drift.

Still boxing in x-rated squares, DERBRUCER? ? ?
 :o
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 12:13:58 PM
Oh, DERBRUCER - you're coming up as red and x rated. . .if you catch my drift.

Well, dear, which ones for Xsake!
All look good on my screen.

(Jane can see Hoppy)
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 12:15:15 PM
I can see Hoppy but nothing after that!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 12:15:33 PM
Me, I really started lusting after Johnny Crawford after seeing THE NAKED APE. (not to be confused with BK's NAKED SPACE).





I didn't want Johnny Crawford,  I wanted to be Johnny Crawford.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: William F. Orr on February 24, 2004, 12:15:36 PM
Okay, DerBrucer, here is a variation on the theme:
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: MBarnum on February 24, 2004, 12:16:52 PM
I can't see your pictures either DerBrucer, and I feel like I am missing out!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: William F. Orr on February 24, 2004, 12:18:35 PM
There is no Nina, but if you look closely you will find Pinta and Sta. Maria.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 12:19:25 PM
OK

who can/can't see this?

(http://www.timstvshowcase.com/5buchanans.jpg)


Betcha can now:
(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2995020/46665864.jpg)
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: William F. Orr on February 24, 2004, 12:19:33 PM
DerB:  I've always found it best to download a pic to my own computer and then attach it.  But then you can only post one picture per post.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jrand73 on February 24, 2004, 12:20:24 PM
That is too funny!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: William F. Orr on February 24, 2004, 12:20:54 PM
Nuthin.  Zip.  Nada.  Zilch.  Except I saw the Hoppy.  When I go to the URL of the picture, I get "Forbidden:  You are not authorized to view this file".
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 24, 2004, 12:23:24 PM
Hey, DERBRUCER - I believe it may a case where the site's "cache" or whatever is limiting what can and can't appear image wise.  As DR WFO - you can post them as an attachment, but then you can only post one pic per post.  *And they may be only showing up on your computer screen since the URL most likely refers back to your original pic, on your computer.

I think - ???

Btw, there's nothing like 30 minutes on a Pilates machine to remind you just how tight hamstrings can really get. ;)

:D
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jane on February 24, 2004, 12:25:01 PM
OK

who can/can't see this?

(http://www.timstvshowcase.com/5buchanans.jpg)

I only have a red x.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jane on February 24, 2004, 12:30:17 PM
That was obvious since I left the x in the quote box.  Silly me.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 12:30:27 PM
I only have a red x.

Sure, Jane, but at least you can see Hoppy.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 12:31:41 PM




Is there a Page 4 Dance I should be doing???
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jane on February 24, 2004, 12:36:13 PM
Sure, Jane, but at least you can see Hoppy.

Yes, and it brought back many hapy memories.  Check this out.  ;D

http://www.hopalong.com/home.asp
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Post by: William F. Orr on February 24, 2004, 12:37:13 PM
Page 4 dance:
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%] :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o[/move]
[move=right,scroll,6,transparent,100%] ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)[/move]
 [move=up,scroll,6,transparent,100%] :P                                                                     :P[/move]
[move=down,scroll,6,transparent,100%] ;D                                                                     ;D[/move]
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 12:41:02 PM
Man, I went to do a bit of writing and I'll be horn-swoggled if we didn't have a posting frenzy.  Love that.  We certainly aren't having a book-ordering frenzy.  We did yesterday, however.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: elmore3003 on February 24, 2004, 12:41:04 PM
Ohmigod!  I think you're right.  It was Vaughn Monroe!  Duh.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jane on February 24, 2004, 12:43:15 PM
As a child I spent hours listening to my Hopalong Cassidy record and turning the pages to the picture book which accompanied it.  Did any one else have one of these?  Boy, there is something from my childhood I wish I still had.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 24, 2004, 12:45:12 PM
DR Panni,

I'm embarrassed to say this, but I caught only a few episodes of Seeing Things. And yes I liked them - but I wasn't watching much TV then.

Nowadays we have lots of reruns of King of Kensington, Beachcombers, and even Check It Out. But not Seeing Things.

I once sort of worked with Lynne Gordon. (She worked; I volunteered. Make that: I worked, too, but as a volunteer.)
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jennifer on February 24, 2004, 01:03:59 PM
DR Panni: please don't change your posting name, it is wonderful and so unique (not to mention that most of us would probably be totally confused by the change) :)

DR Jose: What is a pilates machine?
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jennifer on February 24, 2004, 01:08:18 PM

Why are we wishing Swishy good vibes?

(did she post, or was it something she said during chat).
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jed on February 24, 2004, 01:12:02 PM
Alright, some of my TV episodes (as of this moment, of course)...

Would have to include a couple Quantum Leap episodes, perhaps "Shock Theater" and "The Leap Back"
For The West Wing, maybe "Celestial Navigation" and "In the Shadow of Two Gunmen"
M*A*S*H - any number that could be included here, but I'll go with "Abyssinia, Henry"
"The Contest" from Seinfeld
Some episode of Cheers... for some reason "Bar Wars VI: This Time It's for Real" is popping into my mind today
The musical episode of Chicago Hope, "Brain Salad Surgery"
Northern Exposure for its wackiness... maybe the piano fling.
I'll round it out with an episode of SportsNight, just for more Aaron Sorkin writing
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 01:17:41 PM
As a child I spent hours listening to my Hopalong Cassidy record and turning the pages to the picture book which accompanied it.  Did any one else have one of these?  Boy, there is something from my childhood I wish I still had.



Nope.  I had a Hopaling mug and plate.  I sure wish I had them now.


Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Matt H. on February 24, 2004, 01:25:37 PM
I get red X's on my laptop computer, but I see his graphics just fine on my desktop. I think possibly the cache and maybe the software browser or clock speeds might have something to do with it. My desktop is pretty fast, but my laptop is three years old and is ancient technology compared to today's models.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 01:26:51 PM
I can see Hoppy but nothing after that!

See, your Mom was right, keep on doing it and you'll go blind!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Matt H. on February 24, 2004, 01:28:49 PM
Just have to say that I FINALLY got around to watching all the SEX & THE CITY stuff from Sunday night - the hour retrospective and the 45 minute final episode. I was bawling like a baby through much of it.

I had a similar reaction when THE MARY TYLER MOORE had its final episode, and I'll no doubt do likewise with FRIENDS when it ends in May.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 01:30:28 PM
I can't see your pictures either DerBrucer, and I feel like I am missing out!

Just for you, I fixed them - I think!
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Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 01:33:47 PM
Wasn't Pontius Pilates someone in Rome?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 24, 2004, 01:35:43 PM
TV shows.  Don't have the time to pick episodes but they'd include something from:

I, Claudius
Elizabeth R
Herny VIII
The Bretts
SCTV
Seinfeld
LA LAW (probably the Benny/rape episode)
South Park
The Garry Shandling Show
The Larry Sanders Show
Mystery Science Theatre
Cheyenne
Burke's Law (I hope it was as good as I remember)
The Untouchables
The Gary Moore Show

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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 24, 2004, 01:37:28 PM
Addendum to TV show list:

OUTER LIMITS (The Pigeons from Hell episode)
Johnny Carson
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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 01:40:09 PM
Hey, DERBRUCER - I believe it may a case where the site's "cache" or whatever is limiting what can and can't appear image wise.  As DR WFO - you can post them as an attachment, but then you can only post one pic per post.  *And they may be only showing up on your computer screen since the URL most likely refers back to your original pic, on your computer.

I think - ???


Hey, us Tech-Nerds don't appreciate criticism from Meat Loaf cooking Piano Men - especially when they're right!

der humbled Brucer

BTW - I try to avoid using attachments because they take up site host space - I solved this particular pickle by going back to offending site, copying the pics as .bmp files, hauling them into PictureDraw to save them as smaller .jpg files which I then host on my PictureTrail acount and posted here - simple NOT.

(Actually the URL still referred to the site, but my computer first saw the file in my cache and used it, so the site had no veto.)
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Post by: Jed on February 24, 2004, 01:40:25 PM
MST3K - I haven't seen nearly enough of these, but from those I do remember, I'd probably go with MITCHELL, CAVE DWELLERS, and MANOS: HANDS OF FATE.

"Mitchell... Mitchell... Eyes on the sammich..." :)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 01:45:08 PM
We certainly aren't having a book-ordering frenzy.  

Well after your mass Email things might change.
As I am sure Mel Gibson would point out - mass Emails should be in Latin!

der Brucer (thinking of reporting BK to Pontius Pilates)
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Post by: Matt H. on February 24, 2004, 01:45:11 PM
I read today of the planned remake of THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE.

I don't understand this kind of thinking.
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Post by: Jane on February 24, 2004, 01:46:39 PM

Why are we wishing Swishy good vibes?

(did she post, or was it something she said during chat).

I don't know but last night, after chat, someone posted she needs them.
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Post by: Jane on February 24, 2004, 01:53:50 PM
Panni I agree with Jennifer your name is wonderful and unique.  Plus, if you change to Anna you just might get Ann’s email. :D
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Post by: MBarnum on February 24, 2004, 01:57:32 PM
The little kid who lives across the street from Sarah was killed the other day right in front of Sarah's house (Sarah was home at the time). It was very upsetting to her, particularly as it was a child that she sometimes babysat. I don't know exactly what happened but I am presuming he was hit by a car. Anyway, that is why Sarah could use some good vibes and kind thoughts for her and the childs family.
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Post by: Jane on February 24, 2004, 02:04:27 PM
It is a beautiful day out and I’m about to enjoy the sunshine while I help Keith plant the first of our Walla Walla onions.   :) :) :)
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Post by: Jane on February 24, 2004, 02:08:39 PM
Here I am posting happy faces and then I read your post MBarnum.  That is so sad.  Now I'm crying.  

Sarah, my deepest sympathy to you and your neighbors.  
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 24, 2004, 02:19:43 PM
DR td is indeed a "Prince". Just thought I would share that thought with you all.
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 24, 2004, 02:25:22 PM
Trivia: (I've just been doing some recording).
What was the last musical on Broadway to produce 4 top 5 hits (and a couple of other ones as well) in the US Top pop charts?
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Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 02:36:54 PM
I didn't want Johnny Crawford,  I wanted to be Johnny Crawford.
But, did you want to be Johnny Crawford in THE NAKED APE?
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Post by: Michael on February 24, 2004, 02:39:34 PM
I read today of the planned remake of THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE.

I don't understand this kind of thinking.

I thought they already did it and it was called Beyond the Poseidon Adventure
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Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 02:53:35 PM
Trivia: (I've just been doing some recording).
What was the last musical on Broadway to produce 4 top 5 hits (and a couple of other ones as well) in the US Top pop charts?

Does it work in reverse order?  How about Saturday Night Fever?

Are you sure that td is a prince?  I heard he was a que..... never mind!
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Post by: elmore3003 on February 24, 2004, 02:57:17 PM
DR Charles Pogue, the "Pigeons from Hel" episode was on the series THRILLER with Boris Karloff, and it was truly frightening.  I'm amazed I'd forgotten that series; there were several excellent shockers on it, but "Pigeons" was one of the best.  I remember a frightening broadcast of the Blackwood story "The Wendigo" on some tv series, sponsored by Kraft, maybe?  I watched it while babysitting my cousins one night and it still unnerves me!
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Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 03:09:00 PM
But, did you want to be Johnny Crawford in THE NAKED APE?

Apparently a current photo of Johnny Crawford promoting a performance in L.A. on March 22 of Johnny Crawford and His Orchestra
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 24, 2004, 03:13:47 PM
Johnny's orchestra is great!
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Post by: MBarnum on February 24, 2004, 03:16:40 PM
I met Johnny Crawford at some sort of memorablia show in Portland several years ago and he was really nice!

Yes, DR Elmoore THRILLER had some great episodes. One that I recall starred Donnelly Rhodes and it was quite good. The title was ...oh, wait that was THE ALFRED HITCHCOCK HOUR. Well, both shows were good. I used to have a crush on Donnelly Rhodes when he was on SOAP and I guess that is all I really wanted to say anyhow! LOL!
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 24, 2004, 03:23:14 PM
Uplifting vibes to Swishy Sarah
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Post by: SwishySarah on February 24, 2004, 03:50:14 PM
Thank you to Jane, MBarnum, and SWW. This month hasn't been the best, news-wise. The little boy was killed in a car accident. But before you assume, the woman who hit him was going under the speed limit, and wasn't under any influences. He had been playing behind a parked car, and his ball went into the street. He ran after it, in front of her van. There was no time for her to stop, and the family isn't pressing charges against her. It was/is very sad...but I'm feeling much better than I had been. I'm lucky to have so many great friends.

I really am trying to get back onto HHW...but there's so much to do, I'm barely cramming it in as it is. But I DID speak with new DR Jenny the other day and she's very very fun. I'm not the baby anymore!

Laura II says hello...a few days ago, the voice teacher at her work was fired, and Laura was offered the job. This is wonderful news, as she hasn't had any professional training, and The Boss trusts her enough to handle the task. So she is keeping busy, and even I haven't talked to her. You aren't alone :).

Well homework is a-calling, so I'm out for a bit. Good to read posts again :).

And a big WB to RP!
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Post by: Michael on February 24, 2004, 03:52:02 PM
My lord how could I have forgotten Twilight Zone, Mission Impossible! I considered St. Elsewhere but put it to the side. The first three or four seasons of Mission Impossible were the best.  Each season of Twilight Zone had extraordinary episodes to chose from. I think I would also like to mention The Judy Garland Show when it was just Judy singing. I am sure there will be more that come to mind.
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Post by: Danise on February 24, 2004, 04:10:41 PM
Sorry to be E & T yesterday and again today but I'm trying to book my trip to see Michael Ball and have been reading up on SLC to try to plan what I want to do and see on the trip.  

I'll catch up with ya'll later!
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 24, 2004, 04:19:31 PM
I've never been able to figure out why reruns are never shown of The Man From U.N.C.L.E.  Not that I cared for Robert Vaughn, but David McCallum was hot, and Leo G. Carrol was a hoot.

Early Mission: Impossible was good.  Later, when they stopped messing around with foreign governments and went more PC (before the term was invented) by going after "the mob," the show got tiresome.

The first five seasons of Buffy, the Vampire Slayer were great.  The last two seasons were tanky.

There was a time I was hooked on Dynasty, but I always had the sense to call it Darn Nasties and never took it seriously.  And much of the Star Trek stuff has been good, but I'm not really hooked in the same way.

I am hooked on Alias, however.

And I am definately hooked on Good Eats.  Yes, a cooking show.  But with episode titles like "The Dough Also Rises," "Citizen Cane," "Fry Hard," "A Grind is a Terrible Thing to Waste," "Power to the Pilaf," "Ill Gotten Grains," and "This Spud’s For You," I think everyone can tell a little why DR Jose and I both like this show.  (Yes, the shows themselves are just as quirky as the titles.)
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Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 04:58:43 PM
Back to the TOD:

BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER:  "Lovers' Walk" the introduction of Spike & Dru; "Once More with Feeling"  the musical episode.
ANGEL: 100th episode, the return of Charisma Carpenter's sublime Cordelia Chase.

NEWHART: series finale; "No more Japanese food before bed."
MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW: Chuckles' Death.

OZ: the season two episode which introduced Chris Keller (Christopher Meloni).
REMEMBER WENN:  the Christmas show featuring Betty Buckley and song by Rupert Holmes.

Julie Andrews' show with Gene Kelly

I LOVE LUCY: with Harpo Marx
THE LUCY SHOW: with Liz, her diamond and Dick.
THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW:  Laura gets her toe caught in the faucet; and the Alan Brady toupee episodes.
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Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 04:59:57 PM
Are you sure that td is a prince?  I heard he was a que..... never mind!

Oh, TCB! You're a bad, bad man!

Remember the proper way to greet a prince, is to get down on your knees and grovel.   :o
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Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 05:03:19 PM
DR td is indeed a "Prince". Just thought I would share that thought with you all.

Thanks for sharing; I'm sure that you're some sort of royalty, too.
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Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 05:04:11 PM
Oh, and very interesting lists today.  I am Speedy BK.

On my compilation tape: Walking Distance (Twilight Zone), The Jar and An Unlocked Window (The Alfred Hitchcock Hour), Requiem for a Heavyweight (Playhouse 90), any one of a number of The Sopranos, an I Love Lucy episode, I'd have to choose one Outer Limits episode, one Name of the Game episode, Evening Primrose (ABC Stage 67), a good Topper episode - this is a LONG tape.
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Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 05:05:30 PM
I'm so  :D that Miss Swishy - my favorite dance partner - has returned!
When you've got good friends (like those at HHW) they can help you through the toughest times; and me, I'm truly grateful that they're here, and that BK has let us all into his life as well.
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Post by: Panni on February 24, 2004, 05:33:47 PM
Well, DRs, I've just had a totally emotional and engrossing experience. I have just read - in two sittings - a pre-publication galley of KRITZER TIME.
What to say? This book affected me on many levels. One was the "Oh yes!" factor of recognizing what it's like to be an out-of-step young artist in a world of numbing conformity. What an unexpected thrill to see reflected  in the life of one Benjamin Kritzer so many things that I thought were singular to my bizarre young life. But even if the reader has not one tiny thing in common with Benjamin, this book takes you on a journey into a world of youth. And we've all been there - some of us still are - either in years or mindset. We see the world through young Benjamin's eyes and we laugh cry and wonder at it with him - through him. KRITZER TIME also happens to be one of the best depictions I've ever read of the creative process in a young person, for whom it is a total and delightful surprise rather than a daunting task.
This book of full of music, movies, theater. Yes! Benjamin, movie buff supreme, discovers the theater. Live actors speaking and singing thrilling words. Sitting alone in a darkened theater for the first time, a new world opens up for our hero. And through this lovely book, we are lucky enough to be invited along for the ride.

I cried several times while reading KRITZER TIME and I defy anyone to reach the last page and not be deeply affected, perhaps even a little changed.
So there you have it - comedy, tragedy, music, movies, theater.
What is it, fish? No, it's KRITZER TIME. Do read it.

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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 24, 2004, 05:56:53 PM
I think my OUTER LIMITS episode, Pigeons From Hell, was actually a THRILLER episode and I liked THRILLER better than OUTER LIMITS.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 24, 2004, 06:09:54 PM
Good evening!

Good class tonight.  We listened to some of the original cast recordings for the duets that we selected for the students, and then we went ahead and gave some of the students a chance to run their songs in front of the class.  Basically an open rehearsal.  And the pairs that went tonight have set a pretty high bar for those who will be going on Thursday.  I was very proud of the work that they did on their own over the past few days.

 :D :D :D

DR Jennifer - A Pilates machine is a basically a contraption with a moving platform and springs.  There are a couple of different models out there with various bells and whistles (and price points), but the one I have is the JP Pilates Performer - which I actually bought from QVC.  The original Pilates exercises were based on a platform that had springs - the springs not only provide resistance, but also aid in returning to the starting positions.  -At least that's what I remember from the literature.  I'm sure if you googled Pilates, you come up with pics of some of the original - almost - primitive machines.  In any case, I like my machine, and even setting it up provides some exercise. ;)

Oh, here's a pic:
(http://www.qvc.com/img/F/23/F27023s.jpg)
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 24, 2004, 06:10:11 PM
TCB: Guess I should have excluded the Saturday Night Fever/Mama Mia/Footloose variety of musical and have stipulated musicals conceived for the stage in the first place.
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Post by: George on February 24, 2004, 06:10:57 PM
Individual Episodes (some have already been mentioned):

All In the Family [the episode where Archie and Edith go to Edith's cousin's (I think) funeral and her "roommate" is very distraught.  I remember Archie finally getting it and saying, "You mean Liz (pause) is a lez??"]
I Love Lucy (when Lucy tells Ricky that they're having a baby)
Mary Tyler Moore (Chuckles the Clown Bites The Dust)
Mary Tyler Moore (the final episode)
Newhart (the final episode...this was the best last episode of any show)
Seinfeld (master of their domain episode)
WKRP In Cincinnati  (the flying turkey episode)
The X-Files: "The Post-Modern Prometheus," td, I LOVED this episode, too.

Shows Overall:

The Carol Burnett Show
LA Law
The Muppet Show
Murphy Brown
Northern Exposure
Remember WENN
Soap
Sports Night
Twilight Zone


Alright, some of my TV episodes (as of this moment, of course)...
Northern Exposure for its wackiness... maybe the piano fling.

Jed, I love the Piano Fling episode also!  AND I saw on amazon.com just today(!) that the first season of NORTHERN EXPOSURE (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005JLG3/qid%3D1077667959/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-1434490-5343122) is going to be released on May 25th!!
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Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 06:20:41 PM
George wrote:
Quote
8. The X-Files: "The Post-Modern Prometheus," td, I LOVED this episode, too.

Honestly, George, it was a toss-up between this and HOME; which contains many of the same X FILE devices and themes, but, as much as i love HOME and it's too-too funny BABE moments, it's a very difficult episode to truly want to watch on a regular basis.
The other X FILES which I might have added would be the one with Luke Wilson and the trailer trash vampires.

Now, had the TOD been ten episodes of one television series, I would easily chock up X FILES from seasons one through seven. . .CLYDE BRUCKMAN'S FINAL REPOSE, DUANE BARRY, the ghostly Chirstmas with Ed Asner and Lily Tomlin. . .etc.  Even Cary Elwes couldn't make the last season work for me. :(
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Post by: Panni on February 24, 2004, 06:22:28 PM
I want to add to my list the last episode (and some of the others) of GARY SHANDLIING.
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Post by: Danise on February 24, 2004, 06:23:00 PM
Happy Fat Tuesday, Everyone!

How many had King cake?  We did at work but I didn't get the baby.  Oh well.  I feel like Lady Luck is smiling on me anyway.  

I booked my trip!  I'm going to SLC, Michael Ball or no Michael Ball.  I feel so happy and sick at same time.  
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 24, 2004, 06:28:00 PM
Oh, and I would also have to add Northern Exposure to my list too!  So many favorite episodes!

"American Idol" - Pretty good tonight.  More after the west coast broadcasts.

Currently watching "Frasier" - Pretty good too.  I think.  LOL!
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Post by: Danise on February 24, 2004, 06:41:19 PM
Jose--I got to taste the "Just Cheese" snack I think you mentioned.  Man, is it salty!  I love it!  

Have a good evening all!

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Post by: Kerry on February 24, 2004, 06:43:15 PM
I think I came up with my music choices from yesterday--not necessarily a list of my favorite songs but a list that would definitely tell a stranger what kinds of tastes i have in music:

An Occasional Man-- Jeri Southern
Moonglow/Picnic theme-- George Duning
"Is That All There is"- Peggy lee
"The folks Who Live on the Hill"- Peggy Lee
Times Like This- Christianne Noll
Rainbow Connection- Peter Cincotti
Sign of the Times- Petula Clark
Summer Place- Percy Faith
I'm Through With Love- Marilyn Monroe
Pick Yourself Up- Fred Ataire
You Go to My Head or Friendly Star- Judy Garland
Jalousie- Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops
Ukulele Lady- Lyn Larsen
I Only Have Eyes For You- Freddy Gardner
"Shakin' the Blues Away" -Doris Day
Evening Star or It Doesn't Matter at All or Terminal- Guy Haines
Wonderful Guy- South Pacific (Mary Martin or Mitzi Gaynor)
Trouble in River City-  Robert Preston
Overture from Gypsy
The Road You Didn't  Take AND Would I Leave You -from Follies.
"Something's Gottta Give and Dream-- Fred Astaire

So the list is longer, but that pretty much caotures certain aspects of me anyway.


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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 24, 2004, 06:52:11 PM
DR Danise - Yes, those cheese snacks are salty, but they are good.  But if you eat them with other foods, the saltiness kind of balances out.  I've been using them as "croutons" for my salads.  YUMMERS!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jane on February 24, 2004, 07:26:24 PM
Panni your review of KRITZER TIME is fantastic.   :)

Danise good luck getting tickets to the concert.

Good night all.
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Post by: Noel on February 24, 2004, 07:30:29 PM
Trivia: (I've just been doing some recording).
What was the last musical on Broadway to produce 4 top 5 hits (and a couple of other ones as well) in the US Top pop charts?

I'd guess Hair
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Post by: Jed on February 24, 2004, 07:34:01 PM
Good to see some other Northern Exposure fans around here.  In addition to the extreme quirkiness of it, and some fantastic character portrayals, it was always an extra bit of fun for me to see the tiny town of Roslyn (just a half-hour from my hometown) in the role of Cicely, Alaska, and occasionally seeing folks I know as extras.  I've been to The Brick a number of times, and I gotta say, the Cicely version is definitely more to my taste than the real thing. :)  FYI, the apostrophe and 's' have been removed from the Roslyn Cafe wall painting since the series ended (they were added for the show).  Last time I was in town, however, they still had the window with "Dr. Joel Fleischman" painted in the corner.  Another friend of mine who was a fan of the show has a hammer from the flung piano!

Shortly after the show ended, I saw John Cullum in Seattle in Man of La Mancha, and another NE alum, Peg Phillips, was just a few seats from me.  She stepped on my foot at intermission. :D
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Post by: Michael on February 24, 2004, 07:43:12 PM
Back to the TOD:

BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER:  "Lovers' Walk" the introduction of Spike & Dru; "Once More with Feeling"  the musical episode.
ANGEL: 100th episode, the return of Charisma Carpenter's sublime Cordelia Chase.

NEWHART: series finale; "No more Japanese food before bed."
MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW: Chuckles' Death.

OZ: the season two episode which introduced Chris Keller (Christopher Meloni).
REMEMBER WENN:  the Christmas show featuring Betty Buckley and song by Rupert Holmes.

Julie Andrews' show with Gene Kelly

I LOVE LUCY: with Harpo Marx
THE LUCY SHOW: with Liz, her diamond and Dick.
THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW:  Laura gets her toe caught in the faucet; and the Alan Brady toupee episodes.

Actually it was Here's Lucy with Liz and her Dick
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 24, 2004, 07:47:53 PM
It is a beautiful day out and I’m about to enjoy the sunshine while I help Keith plant the first of our Walla Walla onions.   :) :) :)

Trivia Question II -

What show has a Walla Walla song?
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 07:48:48 PM
Actually it was Here's Lucy with Liz and her Dick

I stand corrected, but you really should see me when I bow.
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Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 07:49:20 PM
We've put Panni's thoughts on Kritzer Time into that part of the discussion board for matters Kritzer.  Obviously I was very pleased with her thoughts on the book.  So, whaddaya waitin' for?
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Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 07:49:42 PM
Oh and hello 10 GUESTS!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 07:50:05 PM
Eight GUESTS.
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Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 07:51:07 PM
May I just say how SPEEDY I am.  I'm here, I'm there, I'm everywhere.  What am I, the scarlet pimpernel all of a sudden?
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 07:51:40 PM
Do you know that with just one more post I will have 2500 posts to my credit?
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Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 07:52:00 PM
I think I am the first to reach this lofty plateau.
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Post by: Laura II on February 24, 2004, 07:52:17 PM
Hi all!

I am back after a long absence. For some reason, I haven't been compelled to get online for a few days now. I hope everyone is doing well. I might get caught up on all the posts by tomorrow, and then I can get back to regular posting. The thing is, I may be giving up online time for a few days a week for Lent...I'm still making a decision. I've missed you!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 07:57:07 PM
And we've missed you, Miss LauraII!  Come back when you can.
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Post by: Michael on February 24, 2004, 07:58:05 PM
I didn't know we were allowed to have special programming.

Cinderella (Julie Andrews)
That Certain Summer
The Day After
Julie and Carol at Carnegie Hall
The 25th Anniversary Tony Award Telecast
JFK's funeral
Man Landing On the Moon
Angels in America
A Case of Rape


and like to add
Ed Sullivan Show with the Beattles and the cast of Oliver!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Michael on February 24, 2004, 07:59:41 PM
I stand corrected, but you really should see me when I bow.

As in take a  or tie a?
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Post by: Michael on February 24, 2004, 08:06:46 PM
Actor-singer Carl Anderson who [;ayed Judas on stage and the film version of Jesus Christ Supeerstar died on February 23 after a battle with leukemia. He was 58.
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Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 08:08:17 PM
Yes, reported here yesterday.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: S. Woody White on February 24, 2004, 08:22:21 PM
As in take a  or tie a?
Or, maybe, string a?
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on February 24, 2004, 08:22:27 PM
I'd guess Hair
Spot on. 1969. Nina Simone sang "Ain't Got No - I Got Life" and Julius LaRosa sang "Where Do I Go". I think the other 4 would be rather more well known.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 24, 2004, 08:22:55 PM
Don't know if you're kidding or not, DR Michael Shayne, but BEYOND THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE was a sequel (which concerned guys trying to loot the ship before it sank).

 What I read was that the original film was going to be remade.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Michael on February 24, 2004, 08:27:14 PM
Don't know if you're kidding or not, DR Michael Shayne, but BEYOND THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE was a sequel (which concerned guys trying to loot the ship before it sank).

 What I read was that the original film was going to be remade.

I was kidding
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 08:31:47 PM
As in take a  or tie a?

Take your pick. . .although I really do know how to TIE one on.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Matt H. on February 24, 2004, 08:32:50 PM
AMERICAN IDOL had easily superior singers to last week's bunch, but other than the final contestant Latoya who was very good, I thought each of them had weaknesses.

Once again, the guys were outsung, and Hawaiian Jonah was certainly the worst singer of the night with a grotesque case of galloping melisma affecting his singing.

The seventh singer, Leah, who got very good reviews from the judges, was 17 years old but had a very old sounding voice with a much wider vibrato than any teenager has any right to have at this point in her singing career.

What seemed to be the overwhelming pattern for me tonight was that almost all of the singers had weak high registers in comparison with their chest voices.

Besides Latoya, my other favorite of the night was the Lumbee Indian Charly. Unfortunately, she chose "Chain of Fools" for her rendition, and it didn't do much to show off her powerful voice. I was upset that her line was not busy at all when I called for her. Latoya's line was constantly busy assuring her a place in the top 12.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jennifer on February 24, 2004, 08:34:03 PM
DR Swish: Good vibes to you and your neighbors ~~~~~~~~~

My gosh, how very sad.  I actually feel really bad for the lady who was driving that van. Even though it wasn't her fault, she will have to live with that forever. I'm not sure I could live with that guilt.

Congrats to DR Laura II: great news about the new job!

I'm going to talk briefly about tonight's AMERICAN IDOL.  So if you haven't seen it, then don't read any further (it's almost over on the West Coast, & I'd assume anyone who watches it would be watching it now and not reading this).

I'm just going to say who I liked (so I don't really consider that a spoiler - if this doesn't work for anyone here, please let me know and I won't post same night reports).

My favorite was the last girl (is her name Latoya?).
I do like Leah (the second to last girl, very pretty whose parents are from Bulgaria).
But I also love the 2 guys: pen salesman & Clay look alike. I really really like them.
I also like pink hair girl.

I won't say who I think will advance till tomorrow morning (after everyone has watched the shows and can comment).

Good night all.

Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 08:35:30 PM
Okay, I know there are a few country & western listeners out there - - well, i could hear you breathing - - might I be so bold as to recommend a certain Joe Nichols for your listening pleasure?

(http://us.ent2.yimg.com/musicfinder.yahoo.com/images/yahoo/universal/joenichols/0203_joe_nichols_c.jpg)

Nice blend of traditional, honky-tonk and popular country.
(Easy on the eyes, too)  ;)
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Matt H. on February 24, 2004, 08:54:01 PM
Jennifer wrote:  "But I also love the 2 guys: pen salesman & Clay look alike. I really really like them.
I also like pink hair girl."

Just so we can all talk about the people by name:

Pen salesman = Jon Peter

I thought his high register was especially terrible but I liked his chest voice.

Clay look-alike = Eric

I thought he was fine but not outstanding

pink haired girl = Amy

Again, her head voice and chest voice were ill matched and prevented me from voting for her. Her chest voice was quite good, however. Wish she hadn't opted to soar up into a wan soprano for some notes.

I wish these folks would stay out of their head voices when they aren't well developed. It truly weakens the effectiveness of their renditions.

I thought besides Latoya and Charly, that Elizabeth, the first singer of the night, was very good. I didn't vote for her since I restrict myself to voting for whom I consider the two best singers, but it wouldn't surprise me if she made it into the Top 3 tomorrow night.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 24, 2004, 08:54:21 PM
Okay, I know there are a few country & western listeners out there - - well, i could hear you breathing - - might I be so bold as to recommend a certain Joe Nichols for your listening pleasure?

Yep, I could listen to a guy like that all night...

Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 08:56:58 PM
Yep, I could listen to a guy like that all night...



Well Dan. . .c'mon over. . .we'll have a hootenanny!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 08:58:28 PM
Okay, I know there are a few country & western listeners out there - - well, i could hear you breathing - - might I be so bold as to recommend a certain Joe Nichols for your listening pleasure?

(http://us.ent2.yimg.com/musicfinder.yahoo.com/images/yahoo/universal/joenichols/0203_joe_nichols_c.jpg)





My listening pleasure???


Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 08:59:37 PM
TCB - - well, he could whisper "Dolce far Niente" in MY ears anytime. . .I'm sure that you'd appreciate that, too.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 24, 2004, 09:00:31 PM
Well Dan. . .c'mon over. . .we'll have a hootenanny!

Yeah--a listening party!  Haven't been to one of those in years!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 09:03:41 PM
Now, Dan, aren't you glad that you found us?  We are a helluva lot more fun than RATM (especially now that it has become Newport News).
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 24, 2004, 09:04:24 PM
Is it just me...or is the thrill gone regards American Idol...? Yeah, a much better group than last week but somehow I just found them all so boring and predictable and who cares...
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 24, 2004, 09:06:07 PM
Now, Dan, aren't you glad that you found us?  We are a helluva lot more fun than RATM (especially now that it has become Newport News).

Urp!  Now you went and spoiled my listening by bringing up that name.

Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 09:08:07 PM
Question for one and all:


Is it legal to give up sex for Lent, even if you haven't had any since before last Easter???

I don't mean me, of course!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Matt H. on February 24, 2004, 09:08:48 PM
I care a lot because as the competition develops over the course of weeks, we see some singers really develop and blossom, others start to let the pressure get the best of them, and there are some young exciting talents there who might really turn into something special. Can't wait to get to the theme shows and see how each of these folks handles singing certain types of songs. Always fascinating, I think.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 09:10:06 PM
Urp!  Now you went and spoiled my listening by bringing up that name.



Sorry. I was in the throes of a listening frenzy, wishing that the throes were being put to better use. . .or, at least being shared.   ;)
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 24, 2004, 09:10:32 PM
Hey, guys--quick protocol question.  I had earlier posted (and then quickly edited-out) something about a show that was on tonight.  When I submitted it I suddenly realized that maybe someone on the west coast (I'm on the east)  may not have seen said show and I could have spoiled it for them.  Exactly what is the time difference, TV-wise.  I know that there's a three hour time difference, but don't some areas air prime-time network shows an hour earlier?
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Tomovoz on February 24, 2004, 09:14:08 PM
If you really cared Dan you would say nothing for six months until the show is aired in Australia.
(Just kidding - I watch so little TV anyway). Of course despite the time delay in programming you are reading this yesterday!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 24, 2004, 09:14:42 PM
Is it legal to give up sex for Lent, even if you haven't had any since before last Easter???

I think the idea is to give something up.  So you could give up not having sex.  
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 09:20:40 PM
I give up lint for Lent.  I simply will not have any lint on Lent.  Do you think Lynn Fontanne gave up Alfred Lunt for lent?  

Dan (the Man), when discussing TV shows that west coast readers might want to watch, it is best to post at least four hours after they've aired, and even then, do put a spoiler alert in your post, just in case someone has taped it.

Mr. Newport, of course, wouldn't give a flying Wallenda.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 09:27:27 PM
I think the idea is to give something up.  So you could give up not having sex.  



Dan, I like the way your mind works!  What time will you be over?

Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: td on February 24, 2004, 09:32:26 PM
Dear esteemed BK, it would seem that our eyes do not deceive us as far as THE DAMNED is concerned.  Check out these grabs from the Italian release compared to the new Warner disc:

http://mondo-digital.com/damnedgrabs.html
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 24, 2004, 09:37:48 PM
Dan, I like the way your mind works!  What time will you be over?

Too late.  I'm over already.  

Speedy BK, thanks for the posting advice.

Good night, lads and lassies...
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jed on February 24, 2004, 09:39:51 PM
Question for one and all:
Is it legal to give up sex for Lent, even if you haven't had any since before last Easter???
I don't mean me, of course!

Hahaha!!!  Like father, like son.  :-\
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Panni on February 24, 2004, 09:53:31 PM
Good night, all.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 09:58:53 PM
Hahaha!!!  Like father, like son.  :-\

Well, of course, Jed, I meant you all the time.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 09:59:00 PM
That's it?  Good night all?  When we suddenly have so many denizens.  Good night all?
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: TCB on February 24, 2004, 10:00:21 PM
That was a joke, son!



Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 10:22:32 PM
My goodness, how did we go from sixteen to one?  And it's early yet.  Has everyone given up HHW for Lent?
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: George on February 24, 2004, 10:38:19 PM
Good to see some other Northern Exposure fans around here.  In addition to the extreme quirkiness of it, and some fantastic character portrayals, it was always an extra bit of fun for me to see the tiny town of Roslyn (just a half-hour from my hometown) in the role of Cicely, Alaska, and occasionally seeing folks I know as extras.  I've been to The Brick a number of times, and I gotta say, the Cicely version is definitely more to my taste than the real thing. :)  FYI, the apostrophe and 's' have been removed from the Roslyn Cafe wall painting since the series ended (they were added for the show).  Last time I was in town, however, they still had the window with "Dr. Joel Fleischman" painted in the corner.  Another friend of mine who was a fan of the show has a hammer from the flung piano!

Shortly after the show ended, I saw John Cullum in Seattle in Man of La Mancha, and another NE alum, Peg Phillips, was just a few seats from me.  She stepped on my foot at intermission. :D

Jed, your post reminded me of a specific episode of "Northern Exposure" that I really liked.  It was the one where they explained how Cicely got it's name.  Rosyln and Cicely were two women who moved to the area in the 1800s and in the flashback, all of the regulars of the show became the people in the 1800s.  It was (from what I remember) a very touching episode.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jed on February 24, 2004, 10:43:05 PM
That was a joke, son!

And I laughed, Dad!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 24, 2004, 10:47:07 PM
Good evening!

Well, I'm about to turn in...  But before I do...

I LOVED LaToya tonight on "American Idol".  She was the only who truly had a sense of presence tonight - for me.  And her pitch was basically dead on.  -The only quibble I had was that she was doing Celine Dion's version of "All By Myself".  And there was some other Celine earlier in the show.  -But I do love that triplet build into the final chorus.

As for the others...

Elizabeth - Nice way to start the show off.  I like that song, but it actually does need back-up singers to truly work.

Eric - Not a good song choice, imho.  Started off shaky and weak - probably equating singing softly with not having to breath as much.  And his falsetto - eh-eh.  More music theatre than pop to me.  *And I know I've played for him at a regional audition at least once if not twice.

Amy - Liked a lot, but, yes, she was weak in her upper register.  However, I think if she just tried more, she would have been able to belt those notes out.

Jonah - Not a chance! Nada! Zip! Zero!  I felt I was watching a bad karaoke night.

Jon Peter - Interesting voice.  Weird arrangement, ending of the song.  But if he's that uncomfortable being in front of a camera, then he's not an American Idol.  But I'd like to more from him in the future.

Charly - Very pitchy at the beginning.  I think she has the same "heart" appeal as the Hawaiian girl.  More a presence than a talent.

Leah - Very pitchy at the beginning too.  And she doesn't seem genuine to me.  -And from the shots of her mother/pop-star/coach... she just seems "created" to me, rather than real.

And, again, LaToya - Really impressed me.  Actually got me to look at her - well, look up from my laptop screen.

All in all, definitely a much better group than last week.  Much better.  As long as LaToya gets passed on to the next round, that's all I care about.  -And I'd pick Amy over Charly, Leah and Elizabeth.

OOOHHH!!! And I can't wait until next Monday - I can't believe they're getting some of the "losers" to come back and perform.  It's actually kind of mean on the producers parts, but some of those egos we saw on the tape... well, well, well.. we'll see....

*And now for some thoughts on "My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance".. Just Plain Mean!  To put a family through that whole ordeal... just plain mean.  And from the way the finale wrapped up, it appears that even the producers had no idea just how far and how much the whole scenario would go.  The sense of "grand apology" in the "groom's" final speach was pandering.  -And he was actually on Letterman tonight, and even Letterman made a point of mentioning how they had "ruined" these people's lives.  And even though his comments were couched in his typical dry humor, you could tell he meant it.  Go Dave!


Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: Jed on February 24, 2004, 10:50:13 PM
American Idol - It was obviously Latoya's night, no contest.  Beyond her, I won't be upset if Charly, Jon Peter, or Leah get the other spot.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DearReaderLaura on February 24, 2004, 10:55:25 PM
Very busy day today. I quickly skimmed today's posts.

DR Jose -- the bride on that show is from my town. It ruined her career as a teacher. (Although frankly, as a first year teacher, it was pretty foolish of her to take a leave of absence two months into the school year to be on that show.) I didn't watch any of the show, so I have no idea what happened on it.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 24, 2004, 11:01:37 PM
OK - Time for me to roll up my proverbial sidewalk.

???

And as for Lent...  A few years ago, I heard about an alternative to "giving something up" for Lent.  Instead you give something:

-volunteer some time for a charitable organization
-spend some time visiting some people at a nursing home
-spend some more time visiting with your parents and grandparents
-add a few extra dollars in your collection envelopes every Sunday
-smile at someone you don't normally smile at
-say, "Thank You," whenever appropriate and possible

In short, instead of emphasizing the "sacrificing" aspect, you end up helping someone else.  Making someone else feel special.  Make someone else smile.  -To paraphrase Sir Isaac Newton - To every negative action, there is an equal and positive reaction.

Goodnight.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 11:42:00 PM
Very busy everyday, dear reader Laura, since we haven't been graced with one of your posts in a few days.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 11:46:29 PM
Newhart (the final episode...this was the best last episode of any show)

With St Elsewhere's a close second!
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 24, 2004, 11:48:35 PM
...you really should see me when I bow.

And you are facing which direction?
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 11:51:24 PM
A deinzen.
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 11:52:06 PM
A "deinzen"?  Dein Martin?  What's next, a jerryzen?  Of course, I meant to write "a denizen".
Title: Re:SPEEDY BK
Post by: bk on February 24, 2004, 11:59:42 PM
I see guests, I see dead people.  New notes going up in one minute.