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Title: THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 12:23:00 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes sounded like a broken record redux, and now it is time for you to post until the broken cows come home.
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 12:26:15 AM
And the word of the day is: ATRETIC!
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Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 12:55:24 AM
Topic of the Day...I think that these are the only George C. Scott movies that I've seen:

Anatomy of a Murder
A Christmas Carol (made for TV)
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
They Might Be Giants
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Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 12:59:28 AM
Today at noon, I'll be at a local theater (cinema) watching the hi-def broadcast of the final performance of the Broadway production of Rent. :D I know I'd see it more than once if it didn't cost $21 ($20 + $1 fee).  
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Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 01:02:24 AM
I'm going with my friend Margo, who really wants to see it, also.  

Has anyone else seen this...is anyone else planning on seeing this broadcast of Rent?
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Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 01:05:19 AM
TOD

Beauty and the Beast (Hallmark Hall of Fame)
(Stage) Sly Fox

der Brucer
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Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 01:36:33 AM
...is anyone else planning on seeing this broadcast of Rent?

DR George - I am going today at 1:00 PM.

I still haven't seen firm confirmation on whether or not this will ultimately be released on DVD.  But most of the reaction has been extremely positive regarding the quality of the final product.
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Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 01:38:55 AM
Very exciting possibilities and opportunities, DR George!!!    :D   I hope that the one you choose makes you happy!
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Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 01:46:57 AM
I have been biting my tongue over Palin, but unlike DR Cillaliz, I am going to take the higher road and refrain from spilling my bile all over HHW.  

What she says may very well be true.  But does she honestly think that McCain and Palin aren't lying through their teeth as well?  They seem to have learned one thing from "W" - repeat it often enough, and people may believe it to be true.

But we all know it ain't.  

And that's a big problem with our system.  No matter which candidate is spewing.  No matter whose "side" you're on.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 03:50:22 AM
And that's a big problem with our system.  No matter which candidate is spewing.  No matter whose "side" you're on.

The biggest problem is that the biggest liar is usually the winner! (And smear campaigns work!)

People polled say they dislike negative ads, despise phone calls, hate the mail campaigns;

but...the team with the most negative ads, most phone calls, and best direct mail effort usually wins.

I did work for one honest congressman: he refused to accept PAC contributions and worked with an all-volunteer staff out of his son's apartment. I worked for him for free and even wrote him $2000 checks each election - on the other campaigns I was working, I charged $3000-$5000 and donated nothing.

der Brucer

One ex-Congressman from CA just called me two days ago  and asked to buy help in updating the computer software I wrote for him in 1994 - it has a list of 8000 contacts and he still uses it regularly.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 04:30:03 AM
Consider this - according to current projections, if McCain can pick up NH and VA (both states have Obama ahead by only 1%), the Electoral College will tie 269-269.

The Presidential Race would go to the House, where that body would surely elect Obama as President.

The Vice Presidential race would go to the Senate. The Senate splits 49-49 with two independents. If Sen Lieberman voted with the Republicans, there would be a Biden/Palin tie.

Who breaks Senate ties - the VP - Dick Cheney.

So on Inauguration Day we could have President Obama and Vice President Palin sworn in together.

der Brucer

To add to the fun , the Constitution is not clear whether the VP can break this particular kind of tie vote.
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Post by: FJL on September 27, 2008, 04:34:44 AM
The higher road?  What site is this again?  :)
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Post by: FJL on September 27, 2008, 04:40:25 AM
Just having fun.  The higher road is always acceptable behavior, though it tends not to be in my personality.  :)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 04:41:42 AM
The higher road?  What site is this again?  :)

Haines Lost Horizon?

der Brucer
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Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 04:45:29 AM
Just having fun.  The higher road is always acceptable behavior, though it tends not to be in my personality.  :)

It's OK - let them take the high road; silhouetted against the sky they make good targets.

der Brucer
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 04:56:07 AM
LOOT is a very black comedy, DR GEORGE....and it's Mr McCleavey's dead wife and his gay son who set the plot in motion....after a bank robbery.....I only saw it once, but parts of it are pretty funny....
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 04:58:15 AM
Work today, oh well.

TOD:

A CHRISTMAS CAROL
PATTON
ANATOMY OF A MURDER
THE HINDENBURG
DR STRANGELOVE
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Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 05:04:34 AM
TV GUIDE (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Disturb-Canceled-Fox/800047490)

Quote
DO NOT DISTURB IS FIRST FALL SERIES TO CLOSE ITS DOORS

Fox has canceled Jerry O'Connell and Niecy Nash's inn-centered sitcom, Do Not Disturb, after just three episodes, a network rep confirms for TVGuide.com.

The show's Wednesday slot will be filled by 'Til Death reruns for the moment. The cancellation comes days after the production team sent a letter to TV critics apologizing (!) "for being the perpetrators of such bad television." The execs blamed the show's bad reception, in part, on Fox's decision to air a different first episode than initially planned, says Variety.

I'm not surprised. I watched the first show then opted for Weather Channel Reruns rather than watch the second.

der Brucer

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Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 05:09:44 AM
bk [and some others] may find this of interest:

Coming out on DVD in France is a complete Jacques Demy collection, not just the previously released musicals [Les parapluies de 'Cherbourg', Les demoiselles de Rochefort, 'Le joueur de flūte de Hamelin'  & 'Le peau d'āne], but also  'Un chambre en ville' (music by Michel Colombier), 'Parking'  and 'Trois places pour le 26' .

It's pricey [at a hundred euros], but maybe they will be released separately afterwards.

link here (http://www.alapage.com/-/Fiche/DVDVideo/989698/jacques-demy-l-integrale-coffret-de-12-dvd-jacques-demy.htm?donnee_appel=GOOGL)

It seems that the films will be English-subtitled, but not the extras.

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Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 05:16:20 AM
...[Les parapluies de 'Cherbourg', Les demoiselles de Rochefort, 'Le joueur de flūte de Hamelin'  & 'Le peau d'āne], but also  'Un chambre en ville' (music by Michel Colombier), 'Parking'  and 'Trois places pour le 26' ...

Is there a SPOILER in there?

der Brucer
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 05:20:30 AM
Off to work.
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 05:50:44 AM
Hello Ben
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 05:53:07 AM
This has been a bad week for electical applainces in Chateu de le Vixter


Dishwasher: only running wash cycle... rinse cycle appears to be kaput


microwave: deader than a doornail


dryer: more of a dampner


computer: keeps shutting down




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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 05:54:09 AM
Vixdad has run various diagnosis on the computer and it seems to be up and running again
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 05:55:25 AM
oh and we all have colds accompanied by very sore throats
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 05:56:01 AM
so, how're youz guyz?
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 05:57:21 AM
I'm going with my friend Margo, who really wants to see it, also.  

Has anyone else seen this...is anyone else planning on seeing this broadcast of Rent?

I am taking The Vixter and 3 of her friends to the last showing tomorrow at 1 PM
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 05:57:44 AM
now to ketchup
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 05:58:07 AM
I may be some time
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Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 06:14:34 AM
Good morning, all! My date to hear my new arrangements for the Men's Chorus has been cancelled today, so I'm staying in - except for the walk - and finishing up some work on my desk.  I stayed up until 1 am last night watching the post-debate discussions, and I need to finish up some things. I'm still waiting for a go-ahead or requests for changes to THE STUDENT PRINCE medley, and that's got me on hold.

DR George, Joe Orton is one of my favorite playwrights because of his outrageous wit, insane plotting, and inner rage. I believe his plays are the funniest things written since Noel Coward's best comedies, and his style calls for the easy repartee of Oscar Wilde cmbined with the violence and rablood of a violent film: when one of the robbers in LOOT tells Truscott "You have got me bloodied and on the floor" and the shootings occur at the end of WHAT THE BUTLER SAW, the blood should be realistic.

Orton's not easy to perform: of the 7 or 8 different productions of WHAT THE BUTLER SAW that I've seen, only the 1973 Wiliamstown Theatre production with John Glover, David Dukes, and Lynn Milgrim came the closest to being an ideal representation of the show's style.  There's a not-too-good film of LOOT with Lee Remick as the killer nurse, and you might want to track it down on VHS, and a rather good film of ENTERTAINING MR SLOAN with the late, great Beryl Reid. The film bio of John Lahr's book PRICK UP YOUR EARS is very interesting and goes into detail the tribulations of the original disastrous London-bound production of LOOT, which couldn't make it into London, and how another director took the script and made it a success.

I saw John Tillinger's Broadway production with Alec Baldwin and Zeljko Ivanek as the robbers, but I thought he miscast Joe Maher and Charles Keating and they should have switched roles. Charles was too sly to play McLeavyand would have been better as the corrupt police inspector.

There are grrat lines in LOOT:
   "Total extermination has done nothing to silence her slanderous togue."
   "What a thing to happen to a man who's been kissed by the pope!"

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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 06:22:53 AM
Hi Larry!  How are your eyes doing?
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 06:24:36 AM
We had a wedding last night  (which was a LOT of fun!!) so we missed the debates


I am sure that I can google a site somewhere that will provide me with the lowlights


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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 06:24:53 AM
Hullo Fred!
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 06:27:58 AM
I must admit I am not overly excited about either of the #1 men on the tickets but I am scared silly about the Republican choice for #2 behind a man of advanced years    

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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 06:28:58 AM
Dan the Man is back!! HOORAY!!!!













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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 06:29:15 AM
I am catching upping to yesterday
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 06:29:28 AM
catching upping?
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Post by: Druxy on September 27, 2008, 06:36:46 AM
George C. Scott was one of my favorite actors.

Did he ever give anything less that a great performance?

I was lucky enough to see him do a play on Broadway once.

I think it was called THE BOYS OF SUMMER.  It was a 2-person play that dealt with Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn as grown-ups.  John Cullum was his co-star.

It wasn't the greatest play ever written.  It had originally been done in San Francisco with Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas.

But watching Scott do his thing in person was a fantastic theatrical experience.
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Post by: Ben on September 27, 2008, 06:40:10 AM
Greetings Deb!

Sorry to hear about the appliance meltdown.
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Post by: Ben on September 27, 2008, 06:41:15 AM
It's cool and rainy (and humid because of the rain) today.

I'm trying to decide if I should go out to Staten Island this evening to see a concert production of On the Town directed by a friend or if I should go back to midtown and get a half-price ticket for All My Sons.
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Post by: Druxy on September 27, 2008, 06:41:17 AM
Favorite George C. Scott movies:

PATTON (naturally)
THE FLIM FLAM MAN
ANATOMY OF A MURDER
THE HUSTLER
DR, STRANGELOVE
THE CHANGELING (a very good haunted house movie)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 07:00:23 AM
Good Morning!

I'm up, I'm up... And it looks like I have a bunch of Young Fiona's to play for today...  -And, no, the "postponed" revival of Brigadoon is not back on.  ;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 07:01:26 AM
It's cool and rainy (and humid because of the rain) today.

I'm trying to decide if I should go out to Staten Island this evening to see a concert production of On the Town directed by a friend or if I should go back to midtown and get a half-price ticket for All My Sons.

Well... After the reports I've heard, I'd say go see and hear On the Rown.  Although, after the reports I've heard, I'd say go see All My Sons.  ;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 07:01:52 AM
~~~~~WORKING APPLIANCE VIBES TO DR VIXMOM AND FAMILY~~~~~
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Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 07:02:54 AM
Hi Larry!  How are your eyes doing?

I see an optometrist for an eye exam and a new glasses prescription on Tuesday.

DRvixmom, I agree about the Republican VP nominee: clueless and if she has any class, it's with a capital K. Much as I am aware and content with my white trash background, I don't think the presidential ring should lower itself to a white trash clan that can only be an embarassment to the US abroad. Can you imagine her and her clan mingling at Monte Carlo? It's a rerun of THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 07:03:24 AM
DR vixmom and George et al - As for the "Rent" screenings... The lines here in NYC were loooooong(!) on Wednesday and Thursday nights.  -And I have friends who are already planning on lining up at least two hours before the showing tomorrow, so... -It may not be that popular in your neck of the woods, but ya' never know.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 07:06:03 AM
As for Joe Orton... When I was in college, I remember studying the various edits - especially for the ending - for What The Butler Saw.  Thankfully ;), our school's theatre department ended up using the "unexpurgated" ending - which was more of a visual one than anything else.  Or something like that.
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Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 07:06:05 AM
I must admit I am not overly excited about either of the #1 men on the tickets but I am scared silly about the Republican choice for #2 behind a man of advanced years    



I'm sticking with Obama; I thought John McCain came off last night as belligerent, mean, hostile and such an ugly troll that a bridge ought to be built over him.  I also found his insistence on not making eye contact with Obama a sign of complete contempt for his opponent.

I thought Obama came off as a stick, and I wonder if it's not an attitude he's developed to separate himself from his background in the lower middle-class? I didn't get this in his convention attitudes at all.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 07:07:14 AM
OK - I meant to leave here about 30 minutes ago, so...  -I'm not running late, I just wanted to have a leisurely breakfast in midtown before I started today.  However, I can still have a somewhat leisurely breakfast if I leave now, so...

Laters...
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 07:11:12 AM
DR vixmom and George et al - As for the "Rent" screenings... The lines here in NYC were loooooong(!) on Wednesday and Thursday nights.  -And I have friends who are already planning on lining up at least two hours before the showing tomorrow, so... -It may not be that popular in your neck of the woods, but ya' never know.

 I bought the tickets last week  ;D
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 07:12:29 AM
Happy Birthday Google!!
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Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 07:23:04 AM
DR Vixmom - Hello!  And sorry to hear about all the appliance problems.  Didn't you just have car problems not that long ago, too?  :(
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Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 07:24:49 AM
Rest In Peace, Paul Newman...
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 07:36:13 AM
Rest In Peace, Paul Newman...

NO!
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Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 07:36:34 AM
***BEST VIBES***[/size][/color]
for a successful workshop today[/size][/color]
for bk!!![/size][/color]
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 07:38:10 AM
Newman's Own Foundation has issued a statement. The statement, from Vice-Chairman Robert Forrester, follows:
"Paul Newman's craft was acting. His passion was racing. His love was his family and friends. And his heart and soul were dedicated to helping make the world a better place for all.
"Paul had an abiding belief in the role that luck plays in one's life, and its randomness. He was quick to acknowledge the good fortune he had in his own life, beginning with being born in America, and was acutely aware of how unlucky so many others were. True to his character, he quietly devoted himself to helping offset this imbalance.
"An exceptional example is the legacy of Newman's Own. What started as something of a joke in the basement of his home, turned into a highly-respected, multi-million dollar a year food company. And true to form, he shared this good fortune by donating all the profits and royalties he earned to thousands of charities around the world, a total which now exceeds $250 million.
"While his philanthropic interests and donations were wide-ranging, he was especially committed to the thousands of children with life-threatening conditions served by the Hole in the Wall Camps, which he helped start over 20 years ago. He saw the Camps as places where kids could escape the fear, pain and isolation of their conditions, kick back, and raise a little hell. Today, there are 11 Camps around the world, with additional programs in Africa and Vietnam. Through the Camps, well over 135,000 children have had the chance to experience what childhood was meant to be.
"In Paul's words: "I wanted to acknowledge luck; the chance and benevolence of it in my life, and the brutality of it in the lives of others, who might not be allowed the good fortune of a lifetime to correct it."
"Paul took advantage of what life offered him, and while personally reluctant to acknowledge that he was doing anything special, he forever changed the lives of many with his generosity, humor, and humanness. His legacy lives on in the charities he supported and the Hole in the Wall Camps, for which he cared so much.
"We will miss our friend Paul Newman, but are lucky ourselves to have known such a remarkable person."
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Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 07:38:13 AM
Rest In Peace, Paul Newman...

I just saw the news on the Huffington Report.  Very sad.
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 07:44:17 AM
I am sad
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Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on September 27, 2008, 07:44:32 AM
And the word of the day is: ATRETIC!


And The Song Of The Day Is:  UGLY BOY
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 07:44:51 AM
I think today I shall show the Vixter Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
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Post by: Jeanne on September 27, 2008, 07:46:25 AM
Hello, everyone. I've been taking care of some Jeanne Things for the past few weeks and not able to stop by much. No quizzes, please!
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Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 07:46:59 AM
I think today I shall show the Vixter Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

I prefer THE LONG HOT SUMMER myself.
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Post by: Jeanne on September 27, 2008, 07:48:58 AM
Vixmom, I've been experiencing a bit of what you are, but on a smaller scale. Prior to coming to HHW I didn't pay any attention to astrology and saw no correlation with the horoscopes and events around me. But I do now!! JRand can set me straight, but I understand we're now in a Mercury retrograde. Perhaps that's what's causing the problems with the machines??
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 07:49:20 AM
And The Song Of The Day Is:  UGLY BOY

 not Blue Eyes?
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 07:50:43 AM
I prefer THE LONG HOT SUMMER myself.

 but I own Butch Cassidy - and it's raining
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 07:51:05 AM
Vixmom, I've been experiencing a bit of what you are, but on a smaller scale. Prior to coming to HHW I didn't pay any attention to astrology and saw no correlation with the horoscopes and events around me. But I do now!! JRand can set me straight, but I understand we're now in a Mercury retrograde. Perhaps that's what's causing the problems with the machines??

hmmmmm
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Post by: Jeanne on September 27, 2008, 07:51:08 AM
Re: politics. PBS is taking a poll as to whether Ms Palin is qualified to be VP. I received an email, but I assume you can go to the PBS website if you wish to state your opinion.
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Post by: Edisaurus on September 27, 2008, 07:51:42 AM
My friend just called to tell me thst Paul Newman has passed on. :-(
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 07:52:59 AM
Gosh it's nearly 11 and I have done nothing breakfastwise. laundry wise, microwaveovenpurchasingwise




LATERS!!
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Post by: vixmom on September 27, 2008, 07:55:44 AM
Re: politics. PBS is taking a poll as to whether Ms Palin is qualified to be VP. I received an email, but I assume you can go to the PBS website if you wish to state your opinion.

I am more concerned whether she is qualified to be president considering the age of her running mate

I am also quite on the opposite side from she on many (if not all) of the issues
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 07:56:59 AM
Some nice  performances in the Newman cannon:

TORN CURTAIN
HUD
FROM THE TERRACE
THE LEFT HANDED GUN
LADY L

But I pretty much liked everything he did that wasn't supposed to be a comedy.
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Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on September 27, 2008, 07:57:00 AM
GEORGE C SCOTT

THE HUSTLER

and a PAUL NEWMAN CONNECTION
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Post by: FJL on September 27, 2008, 08:02:22 AM
vixmom - Your inbox is full, but I just wanted to say thanks.
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Post by: Jeanne on September 27, 2008, 08:02:47 AM
One story some DRs may enjoy:
My car alarm goes berserk at times. I take the car in for service, they tell my they reloaded the software, but the problem continues. I've been surprised that one of my neighbors hasn't dismantled the damn alarm for me. Exasperated, I phone not the service advisor, but the service manager, a few weeks ago and calmly explained that they simply are not getting to the bottom of it. They had the car for the day and told me that the problem was that the electronic door thingy was faulty and needed to be replaced. The alarm system thought the door was being tampered with. $440. Then I realized that this faulty thingy was on the right side of the car and it just so happens that some time back the shop had damaged one of the right doors while the car was up on the lift being serviced. The dealer fixed the body work at no cost, of course, but could this be fall-out from that incident? I can't say one way or another, but I called the service manager back and asked if that might be the case. He looked into it, and called back a couple days later to say that they would be taking it up with Volvo and I would be refunded the cost of the repair. Not a word as to whether it had anything to do with the damage they caused or not. As far as I'm concerned, that's between them and Volvo and am just glad to be getting my money back. Oh, and the alarm? As far as I know it has not gone off again.
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Post by: Jeanne on September 27, 2008, 08:06:23 AM
I am more concerned whether she is qualified to be president considering the age of her running mate

I am also quite on the opposite side from she on many (if not all) of the issues

You have a lot of company.
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Post by: Druxy on September 27, 2008, 08:08:03 AM
Rest In Peace, Paul Newman...

He will be missed.

 :'(
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Post by: Edisaurus on September 27, 2008, 08:08:19 AM
Re: politics. PBS is taking a poll as to whether Ms Palin is qualified to be VP. I received an email, but I assume you can go to the PBS website if you wish to state your opinion.

Here's the email I got:

Bill Moyers is doing a poll on his PBS site asking, 'Is Sarah Palin qualified to be president?'  As you will see, right wing interests are packing the poll.  Would you take a moment to do this URL and register your vote?  
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html  
If you can pass it along to friends who would be able to vote, it would help.  We'd like to take away a Palin talking point from the right, if possible.
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Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 08:08:46 AM
Good morning!

Another cool, overcast, moist morning. It's supposed to clear up later, but right now, it's very gray.
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Post by: Edisaurus on September 27, 2008, 08:09:04 AM
Must do something breakfast-wise!
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Post by: Druxy on September 27, 2008, 08:09:53 AM
My favorite Paul Newman performance?

THE VERDICT

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Post by: FJL on September 27, 2008, 08:10:41 AM
Breakfast wise, pound foolish, my mom sometimes says.
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Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 08:10:42 AM
Very sad about Paul Newman, but I think many of us knew this was imminent. What a fine actor he was and what a wonderful person he seemed to be.
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Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 08:11:41 AM
Here's the email I got:

Bill Moyers is doing a poll on his PBS site asking, 'Is Sarah Palin qualified to be president?'  As you will see, right wing interests are packing the poll.  Would you take a moment to do this URL and register your vote?  
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html  
If you can pass it along to friends who would be able to vote, it would help.  We'd like to take away a Palin talking point from the right, if possible.

Just did it! She creeps me out. But some feminists are supporting her, I hear? I cannot think why.
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Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 08:12:58 AM
Favorite George C. Scott:

ANATOMY OF A MURDER

THE HUSTLER

PATTON

DR. STRANGELOVE

THE LIST OF ADRIAN MESSENGER

THE HOSPITAL

One film of his I've never seen is THE FORMULA, and since it was included in the Brando box set, I have it. Finding the time to watch it is another matter.
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Post by: td on September 27, 2008, 08:14:23 AM
so, how're youz guyz?

Both mum and I have head colds of the long-lasting variety.   :-[
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Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 08:15:38 AM
I'll second Druxy on THE VERDICT being my favorite Paul Newman performance. He's also just fabulous in THE STING. And, of course, it goes without saying that his early work in things like SOMEBODY UP THERE LIKES ME, CAT ON A HOT TIN ROOF, HUD is peerless.
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Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 08:17:04 AM
Today I plan to watch SUPERNATURAL as I cook and eat lunch. Then, I will spend the remainder of the afternoon on AN AUTUMN AFTERNOON.

Yes, bk, I knew you were a big Ozu fan. I'm looking forward to seeing what this looks like on DVD.
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Post by: td on September 27, 2008, 08:17:59 AM
Rest In Peace, Paul Newman...

Indeed.   :'(
The first news I received when I turned on the computer this morning.   :'(
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Post by: Jeanne on September 27, 2008, 08:30:19 AM
Here's the email I got:

Bill Moyers is doing a poll on his PBS site asking, 'Is Sarah Palin qualified to be president?'  As you will see, right wing interests are packing the poll.  Would you take a moment to do this URL and register your vote?  
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html  
If you can pass it along to friends who would be able to vote, it would help.  We'd like to take away a Palin talking point from the right, if possible.

Yes, that sounds like the email I received. Thanks for posting it, Amy.
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Post by: Jeanne on September 27, 2008, 08:31:16 AM
Breakfast wise, pound foolish, my mom sometimes says.

 ;D
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Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 08:31:21 AM
Aww... Rest In Peace Paul Newman.
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Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 08:37:18 AM
I'm heading down now to check the mail and then start fixing lunch.

WBBL.
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Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 08:38:55 AM
Here is a little bit of background information on the PBS Palin Poll (http://www.pbs.org/now/palin-poll.html)
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Post by: Jeanne on September 27, 2008, 08:40:10 AM
She creeps me out. But some feminists are supporting her, I hear? I cannot think why.

I cannot speak for all feminists, only for myself. I have always tried to support other women who try to get ahead, break new ground, etc. There have been a couple times, however, when I felt I simply could not support someone, despite my desire to see women get ahead. Ms Palin is one of them; her views and mine are just too opposed. I have heard quite a few women interviewed who, IMHO, identify so strongly on gender alone that nothing else seems to matter. It's one thing to say, "I support her views," but in many of the interviews that wasn't what I was hearing; it seemed to be predominantly a gender issue.

Others may disagree; this is just my take on it.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 08:40:11 AM
And, sadly, I believe DR Danise's DD Bear has passed on too. :(
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 08:43:55 AM
Yes, I saw that, Jose.


(((((Danise)))))
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Post by: Jeanne on September 27, 2008, 08:44:43 AM
Sympathy vibes all around.
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Post by: Jeanne on September 27, 2008, 08:45:33 AM
Must take care of some other business.

TTFN.
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Post by: JMK on September 27, 2008, 08:54:09 AM
We were awakened this morning to the lovely sounds of the construction crew next door in a loud (LOUD) verbal altercation with someone, probably the neighbors who bought the farm house in front of the lots being developed.  An unending string of expletives which of course perked up the ears of our boys.  :)  I of course took the high road and called the police.
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Post by: Ginny on September 27, 2008, 09:01:31 AM
Saturday just-barely-morning greetings!  I slept quite late today and will post this before the clock strikes noon.
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Post by: Ginny on September 27, 2008, 09:02:35 AM
Sad about Paul Newman and about Bear, DD(dog) of DR Danise.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 09:08:23 AM
Saturday just-barely-morning greetings!  I slept quite late today and will post this before the clock strikes noon.

Lucky you. I woke up at 4:30 a.m. when my son opened the back door to let the cat out and the door alarm went off.
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Post by: JMK on September 27, 2008, 09:12:41 AM
Little Roomba is stuck in the corner of my office.  He/she is fun to watch.
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Post by: JMK on September 27, 2008, 09:14:33 AM
Roomba had been malfunctioning last week and I just yesterday remembered the little bearings come off of the rotating brushes (brushes?  did you say brushes?  yes, rotating brushes--almost a Monty Python reference), and I found the posts under the bearings tangled with doghair.  Little Roomba is a happy robot now and no longer giving error messages.
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Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 09:15:14 AM
Yes, I saw that, Jose.


(((((Danise)))))

Ditto! {{{{{ Danise }}}}
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 09:15:52 AM
Little Roomba is stuck in the corner of my office.  He/she is fun to watch.

You are as easily amused as I am.
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Post by: JMK on September 27, 2008, 09:16:27 AM
I guess now I'm the "reasonable" neighbor, LOL--when I went over to ask the crew not to leave their diesel fume-belching truck running in front of my house (they park right in front of our yard), they were *very* polite and ran to turn it off.  Funny how a visit from the police can do that.
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Post by: JMK on September 27, 2008, 09:17:04 AM
You are as easily amused as I am.

However, I am *not* easily assimilated, as any of my relatives can tell you.  ;)
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Post by: JMK on September 27, 2008, 09:17:16 AM
Or even Leonard Bernstein.
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 09:18:40 AM
Perhaps today's Topic of The Day should really be about the late Paul Newman's films.
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 09:20:29 AM
We had a wedding last night  (which was a LOT of fun!!) so we missed the debates


I am sure that I can google a site somewhere that will provide me with the lowlights





The Vixter got married so soon???  Or did you and vixdad finally decide to make it legal?
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 09:27:46 AM
Here's the email I got:

Bill Moyers is doing a poll on his PBS site asking, 'Is Sarah Palin qualified to be president?'  As you will see, right wing interests are packing the poll.  Would you take a moment to do this URL and register your vote?  
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html  
If you can pass it along to friends who would be able to vote, it would help.  We'd like to take away a Palin talking point from the right, if possible.



Well, at 49% to 49% I don't think Mr. Moyer will get much from this poll.
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Post by: Jane on September 27, 2008, 09:30:01 AM
Consider this - according to current projections, if McCain can pick up NH and VA (both states have Obama ahead by only 1%), the Electoral College will tie 269-269.

The Presidential Race would go to the House, where that body would surely elect Obama as President.

The Vice Presidential race would go to the Senate. The Senate splits 49-49 with two independents. If Sen Lieberman voted with the Republicans, there would be a Biden/Palin tie.

Who breaks Senate ties - the VP - Dick Cheney.

So on Inauguration Day we could have President Obama and Vice President Palin sworn in together.

der Brucer

To add to the fun , the Constitution is not clear whether the VP can break this particular kind of tie vote.


Interesting & terribly frightening.  As of today I would rather have McCain & Biden.  

I'm with Cilla in my dislike for Obama, something about him scares me.  For months I've been telling Keith I'm writing in Ron Paul, at least he understands the economic situation.

Honestly, I don't know how I'm going to vote.
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Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 09:31:08 AM
Well, at 49% to 49% I don't think Mr. Moyer will get much from this poll.

Well, maybe a lot of the 49% for her are waiting to see if she shoots herself in the foot during her debate. It was nice to hear Mr Biden's comments after the debate last night, but I notice they're keeping Mrs Palin out of site for the nonce. I'm sure she's being programed after her Katie Couric interview.
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 09:31:57 AM
I slept later than I wanted to, which is very unusual.  I must now begin my jog in less than ten minutes if I'm to do everything that needs doing before heading over to LACC.
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Post by: Jane on September 27, 2008, 09:32:19 AM
This has been a bad week for electical applainces in Chateu de le Vixter


Dishwasher: only running wash cycle... rinse cycle appears to be kaput


microwave: deader than a doornail


dryer: more of a dampner


computer: keeps shutting down


Oh my, that is too much at once.  I'm guessing the dryer & computer take priority for repairs.
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 09:36:26 AM
My sympathies to DR Danise, on the loss of DD Bear.  My heart goes out to you, Danise!


{{{{Danise}}}}










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Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 09:36:49 AM
Interesting & terribly frightening.  As of today I would rather have McCain & Biden.  

I'm with Cilla in my dislike for Obama, something about him scares me.  For months I've been telling Keith I'm writing in Ron Paul, at least he understands the economic situation.

Honestly, I don't know how I'm going to vote.

Since the Bush administration has terrified me for the past 8 years and both McCain and Palin terrify me more, especially everything she represents whether or not you think it won't be a part of the agenda from those nominating her, I see nothing terrifying about Mr Obama at all. I certainly see him behaving better before the leaders of the world than the Palins.
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Post by: Ginny on September 27, 2008, 09:39:43 AM
Our day includes a restock-the-refrigerator trip to Kroger and the Octoberfest at the church whose building our congregation uses when they're finished with it on Sunday mornings.
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Post by: td on September 27, 2008, 09:46:09 AM
Dixie Bell and I send big, ol' DD vibes to Danise on the loss of Bear.
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Post by: JMK on September 27, 2008, 09:46:33 AM
We went to a Debate Potluck last night which was fun, as it was kind of like MST3K with all of us making snarky comments.  I must say, I brought the house down during the "bracelet" segment.  When Obama said, "I have a bracelet, too," I interjected "as well as matching earrings and some nice pumps."  ;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 09:53:47 AM
Who knew Right-Wingers watched PBS? ;)
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Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 09:59:27 AM
Who knew Right-Wingers watched PBS? ;)

I guess they have to watch it to justify getting rid of it.
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Post by: JMK on September 27, 2008, 10:01:06 AM
Well, maybe we should all watch The Hustler, in honor of the TOD and Mr. Newman's death.
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 10:12:07 AM
Well, maybe we should all watch The Hustler, in honor of the TOD and Mr. Newman's death.


Or, perhaps, CAT ON A HOT TIN WOOF ROOF and skip Mr. Scott?
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Post by: Edisaurus on September 27, 2008, 10:28:25 AM
Danise----I'm so so sorry to hear about Bear. Big hugs to you and vibes of comfort. Although it may seem like nothing can help at times like this, know that we are here for you.
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Post by: FJL on September 27, 2008, 10:31:10 AM
Hugs and love to DR Danise
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Post by: Ben on September 27, 2008, 10:33:03 AM
I won't be seeing All My Sons, at least today. I went up to see if I could get a matinee ticket and yes, there are matinee tickets available but they are $63 for f***ing partial view. How stupid do you think I am (don't answer that)? Perhaps if you had a partial view for $20 I might consider but you're out of your mind if you think I'm paying $63 for a partial view ticket. Shove it up your money grubbing...throat (a partial Stop the World reference).

OK, theatre price rant over.
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Post by: Ben on September 27, 2008, 10:33:40 AM
Much love and good thoughts to dear Danise!
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 11:01:23 AM
Back from the long jog, have shaved and must now shower and be on my way.  I'll be back this afternoon.
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Post by: JMK on September 27, 2008, 11:03:57 AM
Ooohhh---Mrs. Zhuyuning is evidently still single, and is urging me once again to "ACKNOWLEDGE MY PROPOSAL".  I am from Utah, after all, so perhaps a second wife *is* in order.
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Post by: Cillaliz on September 27, 2008, 11:04:56 AM
Just having fun.  The higher road is always acceptable behavior, though it tends not to be in my personality.  :)

Speaking of acceptable behavior.  There are proper forms of address to persons in positions of power in our country. This includes addressing a Senator as "Senator" during a formal occasion such as a debate.  Referring to a Senator in that setting by his first name is either just plain rude,  intentionally demeaning or simply shows a lack of manners.

It would be like me going to court and saying to the judge "Mark, you and I can agree that my client is innocent" Not only would that be improper, I would most likely be cited for comtempt.  


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Post by: Miss Karen on September 27, 2008, 11:11:15 AM
Me so sad .. I loved, loved, loved Paul Newman ...

Cool Hand Luke -- hands down my favorite role of his (and among my favorite movies)

Liked him in Slap Shot
And how could he have been more charming (and sexy) than in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and The Sting?
... and check out that scene with him and Joanne Woodard in that store (I think it was like a general store) in The Long Hot Summer -- the chemistry is obvious, no wonder she fell for him, he was (in my best Jamaican accent) "one sexy Mon"

*sigh*
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Post by: Miss Karen on September 27, 2008, 11:18:35 AM
Who knew Right-Wingers watched PBS? ;)

Right-wingers like to watch ... everything --- they're into keeping tabs on things and  people (Ain't that right, Wubba?)
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Post by: MBarnum on September 27, 2008, 11:27:35 AM
Why Miss Karen, how are ya!
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Post by: MBarnum on September 27, 2008, 11:28:08 AM
My vote is going to Obama.
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Post by: MBarnum on September 27, 2008, 11:30:36 AM
And, as I have $20 in Target gift certificates to use, sayonara for now.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 11:31:34 AM
TCB, any updates on Jed and Ann's baby?
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 11:34:37 AM
TCB, any updates on Jed and Ann's baby?


Dear Reader Laura, I have written to Jed and Ann about an update on Toby, but I have gotten no response.  That worries me.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 11:35:47 AM
Thanks.
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Post by: Cillaliz on September 27, 2008, 11:40:04 AM
Just did it! She creeps me out. But some feminists are supporting her, I hear? I cannot think why.

I've gotten that email a number of times and every time I vote yes  ;)  it says 49% to 49%.  I've had a number of friends also tell me it was tied.  Not sure if it's real or not.  
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Post by: Cillaliz on September 27, 2008, 11:40:42 AM
DR Danise, I am so sorry about Bear.  My heart goes out to you.
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Post by: Cillaliz on September 27, 2008, 11:49:24 AM
Quote
I'm sticking with Obama; I thought John McCain came off last night as belligerent, mean, hostile and such an ugly troll that a bridge ought to be built over him.  I also found his insistence on not making eye contact with Obama a sign of complete contempt for his opponent.

I thought Obama came off as a stick, and I wonder if it's not an attitude he's developed to separate himself from his background in the lower middle-class? I didn't get this in his convention attitudes at all.

What lower middle-class background?  He was in prep school starting in junior high, went to Columbia and Harvard. Doesn't sound too lower middle class to me.  His "single mother" was only single for about 2-3 years after his father left them (about the time she realized he already had a wife and children in Kenya) before she married again to a man who had money. The only time they didn't have much money was when she was working on her PHD (which of course all lower middle class single parents are doing). Even if he got into the private schools etc on scholarships, it isn't a lower middle class atmosphere by any stretch of the imagination.

I believe his cousin is the man who ran for president in Kenya recently. There was a lot of violence during those elections.  His cousin, who reportedly backs the Taliban and was trying to get more Islamic rule in Kenya, hosted Barak Obama and claims the two are close.
I have no idea if that part is true, but it's widely reported, and no, I'm not trying to say Barak Obama has anything to do with Islam or the Taliban because I don't believe that. What I'm saying is his background is not lower middle class in the sense most people would think of that term.  

He spent what - two or three years after Harvard as a community organizer earning very little money? (Wasn't he also a university lecturerer during that time...maybe that was later)  That's honorable, but doesn't make one lower middle class.

I don't "love" John McCain, but he is who he is and I'm less afraid of the devil I know than the one I don't.   I do know he has a history of reaching across the aisle much more than Obama and I believe that's what we need.

Now, Singdaw, if you want to attack me for this...go right ahead.
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Post by: Miss Karen on September 27, 2008, 11:57:26 AM
I have been biting my tongue over Palin

SingDawg ~ If you need to vent, PM me. Palin lost me at "creationism" so I can't take her seriously -- call me crazy, but I believe in fossils (which is ironic because they sure believe in fossil fuels, don't they?...). I don't know SingDawg, but every day, she reminds me more and more of a Wubba in a skirt and McCain reminds me more and more of a Cheney in a rumpled suit ... But, beware, I think the Demos are dweebs, too -- there's enough blame for the past 8 years to pass around to everyone (and Biden? What were they thinking?! Bor-ring ... Should have gone with Chet or Hillary). The two-party system is the prob -- they can't get anything done because it is so partisan and all they care about is getting elected or re-elected. And the bailout? Don't get me started ... Okay, off the soapbox ... What was the topic of the day? Oh, yeah, George C. Scott ...

Patton
Dr. Strangelove
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Post by: Miss Karen on September 27, 2008, 12:02:28 PM
Sorry to hear about Bear, DR Danise. I know how those family members are most beloved, so it's hard when they go. Comfort vibes to you.
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Post by: Miss Karen on September 27, 2008, 12:07:57 PM
Why Miss Karen, how are ya!

Hiya, Mikey  :-*!!  I'm doing okay -- the summer was nuts (hence my E and T behavior). I've missed checking in with all you HHWers.
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Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 12:11:49 PM

I believe his cousin is the man who ran for president in Kenya recently. There was a lot of violence during those elections.  His cousin, who reportedly backs the Taliban and was trying to get more Islamic rule in Kenya, hosted Barak Obama and claims the two are close.
I have no idea if that part is true, but it's widely reported, and no, I'm not trying to say Barak Obama has anything to do with Islam or the Taliban because I don't believe that. What I'm saying is his background is not lower middle class in the sense most people would think of that term.  

He spent what - two or three years after Harvard as a community organizer earning very little money? (Wasn't he also a university lecturerer during that time...maybe that was later)  That's honorable, but doesn't make one lower middle class.

I don't "love" John McCain, but he is who he is and I'm less afraid of the devil I know than the one I don't.   I do know he has a history of reaching across the aisle much more than Obama and I believe that's what we need.


Shows how misinformed I was. Doesn't change mt opinion of him.  I suppose it's this intense hatred of him that keeps you so informed of not just the facts but the rumors.  
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 12:18:49 PM


I believe his cousin is the man who ran for president in Kenya recently. There was a lot of violence during those elections.  His cousin, who reportedly backs the Taliban and was trying to get more Islamic rule in Kenya, hosted Barak Obama and claims the two are close.
I have no idea if that part is true, but it's widely reported, and no, I'm not trying to say Barak Obama has anything to do with Islam or the Taliban because I don't believe that. What I'm saying is his background is not lower middle class in the sense most people would think of that term.  

He spent what - two or three years after Harvard as a community organizer earning very little money? (Wasn't he also a university lecturerer during that time...maybe that was later)  That's honorable, but doesn't make one lower middle class.

I don't "love" John McCain, but he is who he is and I'm less afraid of the devil I know than the one I don't.   I do know he has a history of reaching across the aisle much more than Obama and I believe that's what we need.

Now, Singdaw, if you want to attack me for this...go right ahead.


Cilla, I certainly would never attack you for your political beliefs.  I have a great deal of respect for Sen. McCain, and I know a lot of very well-educated people who feel he is the best choice for President.

What disturbs me is that you are using the same attack and run posture that the Republican party loves to use.  You throw out a statement like the one regarding Obama's non-cousin, Odinga, but then follow it up by saying that, of course, you don't believe that Obama has anything to do with Islam or the Taliban.  However, the dirt has already been thrown, regardless of your following sentence.

The story of Obama and Odinga has, indeed, been widely reported, but it has also been widely refuted.  To continually quote it as the truth is hurtful to both sides, and has nothing to do with the present Presidential campaign, except to muddy the waters.

I feel the same way about anti-Palin claims regarding banned books, book burnings, and other untruths.
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Post by: Cillaliz on September 27, 2008, 12:26:53 PM
Shows how misinformed I was. Doesn't change mt opinion of him.  I suppose it's this intense hatred of him that keeps you so informed of not just the facts but the rumors.  

If you're really interested, I considered supporting him last fall.  I wasn't a Hillary supporter then, I was in Richardson's camp, but knew he didn't have a chance.  I hadn't yet gone over to Edwards and I started studying all the candidates both from their own literature, their own books and what I could find on the web.  So, that's how and why I did all my research.  I've seen him in person twice, I saw Edwards 3 times, Richardson 3 or 4 times, Biden twice, Dodd once, didn't go th the Hillary events but did go see Bill, I worked the caucus for the party, I listened to all the speeches etc.  I have never said you or anyone else has to agree with me.  I really don't care.  

Since the attacks today seem to be getting more and more personal towards me even though everyone else can freely attack Palin and McCain with no one caring...maybe it's time for me to leave.
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 12:33:58 PM
I hope my comments were not taken as personal.
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 12:34:33 PM
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 12:36:13 PM
Well, Miss Karen it is you and I against the world.
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 12:36:48 PM
Wow, I guess it is me against the world
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 12:38:27 PM
Hello, three Guests!  Would you like to discuss theater?
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Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 12:40:46 PM
Now I know how that guy in the rowboat feels!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 12:50:19 PM
I never discuss politics. I am too stupid.

And I don't say that so that anyone will say: Oh, no, you are not.  

It's true. I am.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 12:53:09 PM
I never discuss politics. I am too stupid.

And I don't say that so that anyone will say: Oh, no, you are not.  

It's true. I am.


Perhaps, when it comes to politics, you should say you are too intelligent.   :)
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 12:53:54 PM
I live under a rock. A nice quiet rock. I come out once in a while and look around, then I go back.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 12:55:04 PM
I live under a rock. A nice quiet rock. I come out once in a while and look around, then I go back.


Would it be, perhaps, the Rock of Ages?
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 12:58:28 PM
Now I know how that guy in the rowboat feels!

At least he's got a paddle!
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 12:59:18 PM
At least he's got a paddle!


Oar not.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 01:06:58 PM
Would it be, perhaps, the Rock of Ages?

Now that's funny!
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 01:14:27 PM
Political talk almost always generates hurt feelings which is why you will rarely see me engage in any of it.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 01:15:54 PM
I began my afternoon watching Thursday night's SUPERNATURAL. Such a wonderful episode. This business with the angel is reallya fabulous tangent that the show is veering into, and I'm loving every second of it.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 01:18:55 PM
Next, I watched Ozu's AN AUTUMN AFTERNOON. What a sedate, lovely film filled with intense feelings so internalized as to be almost wrenching. That image of the father after his daughter's wedding was absolutely heartbreaking. Never having had a child, I can't say that this is what many fathers feel when their children grow up and go out on their own, but certainly it must represent SOME parents. Such depth in such a spare, uncluttered style!
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 01:19:31 PM
Good Afternoon!

Well, we ended up ending about an hour earlier than scheduled, so... -But at least I get to bill for the remaining scheduled hour. Anyhoo...

It was quite a good day. No real clunkers, and all of the young women who came in today were well prepared and most of them somehow managed to learn a brand new song from a brand new show without the aid of any type of recording.  Quite impressive.

*However, as some of these young women - meaning ten year old girls -walked into the room and presented themselves, I found myself asking myself, "Was I ever that adult when I was ten years old?"
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Jane on September 27, 2008, 01:19:54 PM
Vibes to DR Danise.  I hope you find comfort knowing Bear had a very good life with you.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 01:21:05 PM
The picture quality is very, very good, bk. There is natural film grain, but color is very true, and it's nice and sharp. There is some strobing that momentarily distracts, and there's some judder on the soundtrack, too, but none of it detracts from the effect of the piece as a whole.
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Post by: FJL on September 27, 2008, 01:21:35 PM
Jose - When I see some of these young kids, i have to ask myself if I'm even that adult now.  :)
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 01:23:04 PM
Next, I listened to the commentary track done by Ozu scholar David Bordwell. It's a well researched and thoughtful analysis of the film and its place among Ozu's other classics. Very interesting to watch the film again with his thoughts and not having to read the subtitles since one already knows the story well.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 01:25:16 PM
Alas, they covered up the windows in the rehearsal studios at Manhattan Theatre Club sometime in the past two(?) years, so all the light in the rooms comes from a plethora of fluorescent lights.  Consequently, I now have a bit of a headache, so I'm taking a little breather in the eighth floor lobby of the Marriott Marquis. Even though it's drizzling outside right now, there's still some natural light coming in through the atrium.  Ah...
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 01:27:31 PM
Jose - When I see some of these young kids, i have to ask myself if I'm even that adult now.  :)

Moi aussi, DR FJL. Moi aussi.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 01:30:06 PM
There is a 14 minute excerpt from a 1978 French TV show interviewing two film scholars about Ozu's films. That and two theatrical trailers are the only other bonuses on the disc (with the commentary, of course).

There's the usual booklet (29 pages) with a couple of articles.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 01:30:43 PM
So, it looks like I'll get an early start on NUMBERS at some point tonight.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 01:32:16 PM
So, it looks like I'll get an early start on NUMBERS at some point tonight.

Is this the last season of NUMBERS?  I guess I missed you saying that you had that to review.  I love that show.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 01:32:51 PM
Oh... I walked by the theatre where Equus is playing and noticed that they had a TV monitor set up in the lobby. At first I thought they were showing the commercial for the play, but it turned out to be the ticket price listing... Which is broken down section by section and day by day for the coming week, as well as the upcoming Holiday period. Talk about pricing according to supply and demand - it's practically different each day of the week.  
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 01:35:01 PM
DR Ben - From all accounts, "obstructed view" is the way to see this production.  ;D
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 01:36:18 PM
Oh... I walked by the theatre where Equus is playing and noticed that they had a TV monitor set up in the lobby. At first I thought they were showing the commercial for the play, but it turned out to be the ticket price listing... Which is broken down section by section and day by day for the coming week, as well as the upcoming Holiday period. Talk about pricing according to supply and demand - it's practically different each day of the week.  


I would certainly question it, if they told me my EQUUS ticket was a partial view!
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 01:37:25 PM
DR Ben - From all accounts, "obstructed view" is the way to see this production.  ;D


For ALL MY SONS, can you select which cast member you want obstructed?
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: FJL on September 27, 2008, 01:41:57 PM
TCB - Regarding EQUUS,  "Mr. Griffiths can be seen from all seats in the theater."

(a line stolen from a poster on another internet board)
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 01:43:36 PM
TCB - Regarding EQUUS,  "Mr. Griffiths can be seen from all seats in the theater."

(a line stolen from a poster on another internet board)


Ah, yes -- thank you.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 01:52:59 PM


Since the attacks today seem to be getting more and more personal towards me even though everyone else can freely attack Palin and McCain with no one caring...maybe it's time for me to leave.


I think DR TCB said what i was thinking better than I did and I didn't mean for this to get personal, but you must admit your dislike of Obama has provoked from you snarky comments for some time, from "I could say this but I won't" to "no one has even started talking about Obama's cocaine use. That will be a big one later," or state without validation of the source in any of your reports that a telephone poll "was clearly from OBama's camp even though they didn't identify themselves as such. They asked what I thought was wrong with Clinton, and what I thought was wrong with Edwards but didn't mention Obama, lol." And then you constantly use this as a reason to bash him. Have you yet proven he or his campaign was behind the phone call? Maybe they were, but I've never received a similar call in 30 years as a New York primary voter.

I don't care if you vote for McCain, King Kong, or Teddy Roosevelt, but you've been making these snarky comments for some time and then, when someone responds, you get all huffy and superior becase your red banner waving has provoked someone.  You remind me of the hostile Norma Moss who comes into Barnes and Noble where I worked to let the clerks know how stupid they are so she can feel superior.

On 2/03/08 you wrote this:
"And I will confess that looking at these two candidates my inner feminist has surfaced. It's time for a woman president.  I didn't get good vibes from Obama when I met him, it didn't get any better the second time I saw him and well....it's like he has this sense of entitlement to the office and we were just peons or something. I didn't get that from any other candidate."

In your earlier posts about the rally, you never mentioned bad vibes.

Well, you may get your wish for a woman president if McCain is elected and dies in office, but since you call yourself a feminist, just tell me what is there remotely "feminist" about Sarah Palin, since most of the feminists I respect think she's unqualified? I bash her because I feel she's an insult to probably a million better-informed and better-prepared women for the position and because I believe she'll prove an embarassment to affairs of state with her redneck family. And I will continue to do so.

Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 02:02:20 PM
So... Who wants to discuss religion?



Or maybe just the weather...
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 02:10:05 PM
So... Who wants to discuss religion?



Or maybe just the weather...

Did you locate DR Ben?
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: FJL on September 27, 2008, 02:17:05 PM
In some families, they are restricted to discussing the weather and everybody's wealth.  

So global warming and the economy would be acceptable topics.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 02:19:25 PM
In some families, they are restricted to discussing the weather and everybody's wealth.  

So global warming and the economy would be acceptable topics.

I wish I had wealth to discuss.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: FJL on September 27, 2008, 02:19:57 PM
I'm assuming Cilla just meant she's leaving the conversation for now.  

I've gotten so much info on both sides of the discussion from reading the points of view here
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Jennifer on September 27, 2008, 02:25:02 PM
I'm just catching up on reading yesterday afternoon's posts.

Two comments for DR jose.

One. re: NINE.

The reason i had posted yesterday was because i was watching something on tv and they got a live call-in from Kate hudson who said she was (in london?) on set filming NINE now.

So i was surprised it was filming now and that she was in it.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 02:29:19 PM
Is that TOP DESIGN contestant Wizzit a complete fool or what?
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Jennifer on September 27, 2008, 02:30:35 PM
Two for DR Jose.

Re: the mentalist and my seeking info before watching it.

Normally i decide from reading the tv guide summaries whether a show would interest me. For instance a show like PRIVILIGED which would not interest anyone else here i love.

But THE MENTALIST only moderately appealed to me. But the problem is i have a conflict when it is on. So it would have to be something i'd really enjoy. Which is why i wanted to see what the reviews were like.

Also i hate getting attached to a show that gets cancelled right away. So if i knew it was a bomb i would have passed on it.

Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Ben on September 27, 2008, 02:46:05 PM
Yes, Larry, Jose has contacted me.

I'm very glad he contacted me  ;D
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Ben on September 27, 2008, 02:47:45 PM
I will be going to Staten Island this evening to see On the Town.

I'll leave in about 20 minutes and get on the 6:30 ferry and walk to the Theatre. I'm looking forward to the performance. Other friends have said they are going so it should be lots of fun. With that wonderful score I'll at least hear good music if nothing else.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Ben on September 27, 2008, 02:48:25 PM
Is that TOP DESIGN contestant Wizzit a complete fool or what?

I haven't watched this week's episode yet, but, yes, I kind of think so.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 02:58:12 PM
Well I come back from the Rent screening to find that DR Cillializ is possibly leaving HHW because she feels I attacked her.

I don't think I did, but that is how she perceives it.

So if someone can PM me her email address, I will attempt to reconcile.  I would be very upset if I were to be the cause of anyone feeling unwelcome here.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 02:59:08 PM
Just did it! She creeps me out. But some feminists are supporting her, I hear? I cannot think why.

Maybe they put National Defense, Free Markets, and Lower Taxes ahead of changes to social policy. Actually, except for the Choice issue, Palin should be a feminist's dream - an Alaskan Molly Brown.

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 03:01:58 PM
Yes, that sounds like the email I received. Thanks for posting it, Amy.

Oh yes - (Guess she forgot who some of her "friends" were :D)

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 03:01:58 PM
Is this the last season of NUMBERS?  I guess I missed you saying that you had that to review.  I love that show.

The box set I'm reviewing is season 4 which is the 2007-2008 season. The new season for the show starts next Friday.

BTW, I have to request which CBS/Paramount series boxes I want each month, and NUMBERS was not one I selected. They sent it anyway.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Jennifer on September 27, 2008, 03:04:34 PM
Vibes to DR Danise. i'm so sorry for your loss. ~~~~~~~~~
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 03:05:44 PM
Well, the writing is done and posted and now I'm heading down to exercise a bit and then settle in for the evening's viewing.

WBBL.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 03:19:53 PM
Right-wingers like to watch ... everything --- they're into keeping tabs on things and  people (Ain't that right, Wubba?)

You betcha, K-Lady!

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 03:31:23 PM
To continually quote it as the truth is hurtful to both sides, and has nothing to do with the present Presidential campaign, except to muddy the waters.

But Cilla did NOT report the allegations as truth (which they surely are not) but that the rumor was rife (which it surely is). The wild rumors running the internet, the water cooler, and the phone-trees are all a very significant part of the election process and need to be reported upon.

der Brucer

"Obama as a Muslim" is no worse than "Mc Cain lost 5 aircraft".
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 03:42:03 PM


Since the attacks today seem to be getting more and more personal towards me even though everyone else can freely attack Palin and McCain with no one caring...maybe it's time for me to leave.

Hey, Girl - stick it out.

As I'm sure you know, some of us do care about the bile from the left, but history tells us that those partisans do not gracefully respond to argument.

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 03:44:00 PM
I never discuss politics. I am too stupid.

And I don't say that so that anyone will say: Oh, no, you are not.  

It's true. I am.

Gentleman that I am, I would never argue with a lady.

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 03:47:29 PM
 :P
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 03:56:15 PM
I won't be seeing All My Sons, at least today. I went up to see if I could get a matinee ticket and yes, there are matinee tickets available but they are $63 for f***ing partial view. How stupid do you think I am (don't answer that)? Perhaps if you had a partial view for $20 I might consider but you're out of your mind if you think I'm paying $63 for a partial view ticket. Shove it up your money grubbing...throat (a partial Stop the World reference).

OK, theatre price rant over.

What a missed marketing opportunity -

Special Prices for our Visually Handicapped Impaired patrons!

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 03:57:12 PM
I wish I had wealth to discuss.

You have now many acres in Ohio?

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 03:57:38 PM
Well I come back from the Rent screening to find that DR Cillializ is possibly leaving HHW because she feels I attacked her.

I don't think I did, but that is how she perceives it.

So if someone can PM me her email address, I will attempt to reconcile.  I would be very upset if I were to be the cause of anyone feeling unwelcome here.

I think there's plenty of blame to go around on that one!
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 04:05:57 PM
...or state without validation of the source in any of your reports that a telephone poll "was clearly from OBama's camp even though they didn't identify themselves as such. They asked what I thought was wrong with Clinton, and what I thought was wrong with Edwards but didn't mention Obama, lol." And then you constantly use this as a reason to bash him. Have you yet proven he or his campaign was behind the phone call? Maybe they were, but I've never received a similar call in 30 years as a New York primary voter.

Push-polls are easy for astute people to identify - that they come from someones "camp" does not imply an official connection. You may well not have received any push polls because you failed to meet the target demographic - you only invest in push-polling where the target audience is rich in undecideds and the race is close.

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 04:08:33 PM
I I bash her because I feel she's an insult to probably a million better-informed and better-prepared women for the position and because I believe she'll prove an embarassment to affairs of state with her redneck family. And I will continue to do so.


So, you consider "bashing" a polite form of social discourse?

der Brucer

Note: Bashing implies tone, not content!
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 04:11:31 PM
 I would be very upset if I were to be the cause of anyone feeling unwelcome here.

Hey - ain't ya gonna smooth my ruffled feathers big boy?

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 04:19:29 PM
In some families, they are restricted to discussing the weather and everybody's wealth.  

So global warming and the economy would be acceptable topics.

Global Warming - a radical hoax!

The economy - all the fault of the lefties who took us off the Gold Standard!

Next topic?

der Brucer

How about the LA politician who wants to pay poor women to be sterilized?

Quote
The New Orleans Times-Picayune reports that state Rep. John LaBruzzo (R) said yesterday that “he is studying a plan to pay poor women $1,000 to have their Fallopian tubes tied.” LaBruzzo worries that people receiving food and housing assistance “are reproducing at a faster rate than more affluent, better-educated residents”:
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 04:23:17 PM
So, you consider "bashing" a polite form of social discourse?

der Brucer

Note: Bashing implies tone, not content!

Bash: To engage in harsh, accusatory, threatening criticism
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Jane on September 27, 2008, 04:31:14 PM
I've gotten so much info on both sides of the discussion from reading the points of view here

So have I.  

We should all know Cilla’s opinions weren’t formed lightly as we followed her early excursions to see the candidates speak & as she arrived at her conclusions.  I for one found it very interesting.  I’m really saddened when anyone here is not looked kindly on for having a different opinion or viewpoint.

I was also rather shocked.  I viewed DR Cilla’s comments with the same reaction derBrucer did (thank you for expressing this better than I can), therefore I was completely taken back by take on her comments following “What lower middle-class background?”  


Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: JMK on September 27, 2008, 04:39:17 PM
Here's a little perspective on differing viewpoints--I was channel flipping between MSNBC and Fox last night right after the debate.  Fox:  100% certainty McCain won.  MSNBC:  100% certainty Obama won.  It's all opinion, foks, no need to take umbrage at anything.  Unless of course you disagree with me.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: td on September 27, 2008, 04:49:07 PM
I don't discuss politics.  At work, we have both McCain and Obama as well as Palin and Biden tomes sitting at the registers. Well, EXCEPT for the register which I am working.  That register has books and music which I can readily recommend to customers.  This week, I have sold five copies of WATER FOR ELEPHANTS, thirteen or more copies of Charlaine Harris' DEAD UNTIL DARK two copies of 1000 RECORDINGS TO HEAR BEFORE YOU DIE. . .and zero copies of THE GRAPES OF WRATH (my register choice for Friday).
I don't live under a rock, but, my political views are personal, and this year, am thankful for the right to write-in a vote should I want to.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Jane on September 27, 2008, 04:53:01 PM
this year, am thankful for the right to write-in a vote should I want to.

 ;D
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Jane on September 27, 2008, 04:57:13 PM
This morning when we called DS Craig to wish him a happy birthday, he said they are enjoying Philadelphia very much.

Since their DD Yogi suffers from separation anxiety and is having difficulty adjusting to the move, his birthday celebration consisted of a nice walk around their neighborhood.  Having hot water, working stove, a nice apartment all around is also a treat. :)
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 05:15:57 PM
I've never discussed politics because it does get volatile.  I think the discussion here has been interesting - all points of view.  But both sides please be careful that opinions are offered without anger and disrespect - that's all I care about.  Can someone please let me know if they've gotten Cilla's e-mail address so we can make sure she doesn't leave - she's a great lady and I would really hate to think she's being attacked.  If anyone needs her e-mail, I'll find it and get it to them.  Thanks.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Ginny on September 27, 2008, 05:17:42 PM
We are back from the Octoberfest German Dinner at Oakley (Cincinnati) United Church of Christ.  We bought 2 packages of homemade fudge and delivered one to my mom just in time to see the nail-biter finish of the Michigan-Wisconsin game.

Postponed the grocery shopping 'til tomorrow.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Danise on September 27, 2008, 05:19:13 PM
Hi all.  I guess you got the news about Bear.  Sorry I didn't post sooner.  I cried myself sick and had to lay down.  I just woke up a little while ago.   :'(
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 05:19:14 PM
Back from the Karen Morrow event.  She was fantastic - a natural teacher.  She's everything I love in that regard - very specific, very nurturing, and very smart.  The audience of about forty ate her up.  Ten people got to sing - she'd let them do the song, then she'd get up and work with them - they'd do it again, she'd stop them, work, let them sing, and they'd see the results so quickly.  Lots of laughs, and I think everyone was really into it, whether they were just spectators, or performing.  After two hours, we did an informal Q&A, which I led.  I began with a series of questions, and then everyone got to ask their own.  We're batting two for two with our LACCTAA events, and our panel discussion is next and we're hoping that one will be as good as the first two.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 05:19:50 PM
I'm starving to death, but I'll wait for my seven-thirty dinner partay.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 05:20:16 PM
So have I.  

We should all know Cilla’s opinions weren’t formed lightly as we followed her early excursions to see the candidates speak & as she arrived at her conclusions.  I for one found it very interesting.  I’m really saddened when anyone here is not looked kindly on for having a different opinion or viewpoint.

I was also rather shocked.  I viewed DR Cilla’s comments with the same reaction derBrucer did (thank you for expressing this better than I can), therefore I was completely taken back by take on her comments following “What lower middle-class background?”  





I assume Jane that comment  is directed towards me, because I was the one that responded to Cilla's "lower middle-class" post.  If you can explain to me what the untruths about Obama and is  so-called cousin has to do with whether or not Obama had a lower middle-class backgound, then I will be very happy to apologize.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Danise on September 27, 2008, 05:20:17 PM
Thank you all for the good wishes.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: TCB on September 27, 2008, 05:22:04 PM
Thank you all for the good wishes.



{{{{Danise}}}}
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Danise on September 27, 2008, 05:22:41 PM
I guess the surgery took more out of him then anyone realized.  I thought he was doing good until he collapased yesterday morning when I was getting ready to go to work.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 05:26:16 PM
DR Danise - I am so very, very sorry.

{{{{{HUGS to you!!!!}}}}}
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Danise on September 27, 2008, 05:27:27 PM
Two topics I was taught to never discuss--religion and politics.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Danise on September 27, 2008, 05:29:35 PM
I just feel so bad that once again I wasn't there when someone needed me most.  He died at the vet hospital sometime between midnight and 3 AM when someone checked on him.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Ginny on September 27, 2008, 05:30:17 PM
{{{{{Danise}}}}}
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 05:31:43 PM
I have just sent a long email to DR Cillaliz.  As I stated before, I do not feel that I attacked her.  But if she feels attacked, then that is her reality, and there it is.  I can only add that I do feel it would be a terrible loss to HHW and to me if she were to depart, temporarily or permanently.  I would be mortified.  

And also that I shall stop and count to 10 before [and if] I ever post anything again regarding politics.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 05:32:09 PM
Thank you all for the good wishes.

Danise, I am so sorry about Bear! I've been thinking about you and sending positive vibes.
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Post by: MBarnum on September 27, 2008, 05:37:55 PM
For Danise:



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Post by: Danise on September 27, 2008, 05:38:26 PM
Thank you all again.  I guess I'll go.  I need to get something to eat.  Poor Sheena, she knows something is wrong but I'm not sure if she knows Bear won't be coming home this time.
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Post by: Danise on September 27, 2008, 05:39:09 PM
For Danise:



(http://www.tspetmemorials.com/52212.jpg)

That's so lovely.  Thank you.
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Post by: S. Woody White on September 27, 2008, 05:40:13 PM
George:

Yesterday, you announced being cast in Orton's Loot.  

CONGRATULATIONS!

Der B and I enjoyed the play when it was presented by the International City Theater in Long Beach.  It's good social satire, unafraid of making it's jabs.  You'll have a good time.

Just be careful - at ICT the thrust stage was given a very steep rake, and at one point a significant prop fell and rolled off the stage!  Fortunately, one of the actors was also a trained circus clown, and mimed opening a window, climbed out, fetched the unfortunate prop and returned to the stage the way he came.  Obviously not part of the script, his action brought down the house.

The moral being: BE PREPARED FOR ANY AND EVERYTHING!!!

Have a great time!
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
Politics = volatile.  So, let's keep it civil from here on in.  Views are fine, passion is fine, but let's be careful that we don't attack others for their views, even if it's subtle attacking - I don't happen to think singdaw attacked Cilla - he's one of the nicest people ever, and I think it's very important for everyone here not to take the political stuff PERSONALLY.  
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 05:41:06 PM
I don't know if I can go two more hours without something - but the only thing I have here are some ranch-flavored Quakes and some red licorice.  Maybe I'll have a couple of the latter - no fat, not many calories.
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Post by: S. Woody White on September 27, 2008, 05:41:37 PM
Danise:

Bear will be with you always.  Thank-you for letting him be part of our lives, too.

Love - Woody.
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Post by: Jane on September 27, 2008, 05:43:56 PM
Aww Danise.  Sometimes you just don't have any control over the situation.  I'm sorry you couldn't be there with him.
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Post by: FJL on September 27, 2008, 05:44:58 PM
Quakes?  As in the cereals Quisp and Quake?
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Post by: elmore3003 on September 27, 2008, 05:47:47 PM
George:

Yesterday, you announced being cast in Orton's Loot.  

CONGRATULATIONS!

Der B and I enjoyed the play when it was presented by the International City Theater in Long Beach.  It's good social satire, unafraid of making it's jabs.  You'll have a good time.

Just be careful - at ICT the thrust stage was given a very steep rake, and at one point a significant prop fell and rolled off the stage!  Fortunately, one of the actors was also a trained circus clown, and mimed opening a window, climbed out, fetched the unfortunate prop and returned to the stage the way he came.  Obviously not part of the script, his action brought down the house.

The moral being: BE PREPARED FOR ANY AND EVERYTHING!!!

Have a great time!

I bet it was a glass eyeball!
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Post by: Jane on September 27, 2008, 05:54:51 PM
I assume Jane that comment  is directed towards me, because I was the one that responded to Cilla's "lower middle-class" post.  If you can explain to me what the untruths about Obama and is  so-called cousin has to do with whether or not Obama had a lower middle-class backgound, then I will be very happy to apologize.

I can't speak for Cilla's reasoning.  I found it to be another example of a family member who isn't "lower" class.  I can't count the number of times I have read about his cousin & their "relationship" in the news, so often that I didn't think of the example as a negative against Obama.  As I stated derBrucer explained it better than I can "But Cilla did NOT report the allegations as truth (which they surely are not) but that the rumor was rife (which it surely is)."
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Post by: S. Woody White on September 27, 2008, 06:04:12 PM
Little Roomba is stuck in the corner of my office.  He/she is fun to watch.
If der B and I had a Roomba, the poor thing would suffer a nervous breakdown.   :-\
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Post by: S. Woody White on September 27, 2008, 06:08:45 PM
...For months I've been telling Keith I'm writing in Ron Paul, at least he understands the economic situation.

Honestly, I don't know how I'm going to vote.

I definately need new glasses.  At first, I read that as RuPaul.
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Post by: S. Woody White on September 27, 2008, 06:10:39 PM
Trying to catch up here, but I've also got to get dinner on the table.

Salisbury steaks with mushroom gravy.
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Post by: Ginny on September 27, 2008, 06:14:30 PM
Oh, I also obtained a library card today from the Public Library of Cincinnati and Hamilton County.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 06:14:47 PM
Good Evening!

OK... Yes, the gray and drizzly conditions today kept things on the cool side, but, if it's going to rain, just RAIN!
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 06:20:08 PM
Hugs and vibes to DR DANISE - who was always there.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 06:24:10 PM
I just returned from a most interesting tour of the Amazon facility where my son works. I wish I could have taken photos, but cameras were not allowed.
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 06:28:43 PM
Well.....as someone who went through something similar here on HHW, and I can only say to DR CILLA LIZ that there is not one politician's toe that is worth the fellowship of those here on HHW....

There are some popular prominent politicians whose names send me right over the edge, and when they are lauded and praised even here - it is all I can do to keep from expressing my views.  

Political arguments always turn personal because politics is such a personal and heartfelt part of our lives.  We don't come to our views lightly, and it's hard to see how a reasonable and intelligent person CANNOT see things the way we do.

And because HHW is filled with reasonable and intelligent people, it's even more distressing when someone expresses an opposing viewpoint or chastises us in one way or another for writing something.

I think that the people who really RUN our country and our economy are NOT elected.  They wouldn't get anywhere near politics, they work behind the scenes and buy politicians like M & M's right up to the highest office in the land.

If the will of people was really the motivating force behind ANY office holder, this country would be a much better place.

As for write-in votes.....I won't be able to vote the Hottentot Write In Ticket as I did in 1992 and 1998....

Betty Hutton for President
Gale Storm for Vice President

Those gals could get it done!
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 06:29:22 PM
I just returned from a most interesting tour of the Amazon facility where my son works. I wish I could have taken photos, but cameras were not allowed.

Were they packing my preorder of the Mickey Mouse Club presents ANNETTE dvd?  ;D
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 06:31:27 PM
Sounds like the Karen Morrow thang went well....I wonder what the most interesting Q in the Q & A was?

I also await the dinner party report?  I hope there were celebrities there....every LA dinner party should have at least one celebrity.
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 06:41:31 PM
One interesting thing Karen said was that she got her first audition in NY within a day of arriving there, and four days later she replaced Joanne Worley in an off-B'way show (in 1960).  She then stood by for Tammy Grimes in the road company of Molly Brown, and then took over the role.  I then asked her how many times she went on for Miss Grimes while standing by - the answer?  One.  Which led the discussion where I wanted - the fact that in days of old (up until about twenty years ago) stars and leading players would have rather DIED than miss a performance and let their understudy go on.  Now, it's all personal days, and people missing if their having sniffles, or PMS, or a headache, or they need to do a concert somewhere.  It was unthinkable back then and frankly it should be unthinkable now.  Miss Morrow told of being told she had to miss a performance (of Drood, I think) because they wanted to see how the understudy was.  She didn't want to miss, and, in fact, hung out at the theater because she felt she should be going on.  She was very frank and forthcoming - the other interesting discussion was belting now vs. classic belting by folks like her - the Susan Johnsons of the world.  Karen doesn't consider what's done by the Idinas, etc. as belting at all.  And she blames composers for pushing that sort of thing into higher and higher keys.
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 06:43:46 PM
Interesting...........what was the audience response to those answers?
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 06:44:56 PM
The other great story she told was being in Follies out here for the Long Beach CLO.  Susan Johnson was also in the company, and Susan Johnson was Karen's idol, as Karen loved Ooh, My Feet and everything else Miss Johnson did in The Most Happy Fella (Miss Morrow eventually played that role for a Civic Center revival a few years later).  When she finally met her, she cried for about a week, she said.  Then, on opening night, Miss Johnson gave her a gift - the very gift that Frank Loesser had given her on opening night of Fella - a genuine amethyst tie pin (those who know the show will understand).  She said to Karen, "I can't think of anyone who should have this more than you."
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 06:45:04 PM
I know that I a totally uneducated in all things musical, but my opinion is that a lot of the songs are being yelled now.
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 06:45:20 PM
The audience ate her up and loved all the stories.  
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 06:45:52 PM
Welcome nine GUESTS.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 06:46:18 PM
Were they packing my preorder of the Mickey Mouse Club presents ANNETTE dvd?  ;D

I'm pretty sure I saw it there on the conveyor belt!
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 06:47:22 PM
One of the things I did was bring in a couple of people who've done professional work.  She worked with them just as she worked with the students, and the pros loved it.  And I told the audience I'd done it because real professionals never stop learning - never WANT to stop learning.  I think that hit home with quite a few people.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 06:47:22 PM
We are getting a big windstorm.
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 06:49:21 PM
I ate three small licorice twists.  They did not curb my hunger or my enthusiasm to eat.  Forty-five more minutes to food.  Cousin Dee Dee usually has some sort of appetizer, and that will do the trick.  I had to do the long jog faster than usual this morning, since I was running a little late, so I feel I can eat well this evening, and damn it to HELL, I will.
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 06:49:27 PM
I'm pretty sure I saw it there on the conveyor belt!

Oh thank goodness.....I can breathe again....thanks!  ;D
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 06:49:39 PM
Will we never get to page ten?
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 06:51:20 PM
The audience ate her up and loved all the stories.  

Of course.   A few decades ago, I bought the OBC LP of a show called DONNYBROOK! that I had never heard of....with people I didn't know, but I liked the cover.

And Miss Susan Johnson sang a song called "Sad Was the Day" that was so on the money and FUNNY, that I played that song until the band was a different color than the rest of the LP.  8)
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 06:52:00 PM
We are getting a big windstorm.

I thought the election was in November.  :P
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Post by: Ginny on September 27, 2008, 06:53:05 PM
...She then stood by for Tammy Grimes in the road company of Molly Brown, and then took over the role....

Just looked in my preteen/teen scrapbook and, yup, I have the Fisher Theatre (Detroit) program booklet for the Wednesday, August 1, 1962, matinee.  It was the 3rd professional tour I saw and the first in the then-newly-refurbished Fisher.  My parents had seen the show earlier in its run and my dad got tickets for my grandmother and me for that matinee.  My Grandma had a broken arm, so I, at the advanced age of 11, was kind of her escort.  I felt very grown up.  
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Post by: Jrand73 on September 27, 2008, 06:54:17 PM
DR GINNY it pays to NEVER throw those things away.....
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Post by: Jane on September 27, 2008, 06:55:06 PM
Political arguments always turn personal

Up until the last election I was never involved in a heated political discussion that became personal, NEVER!


Oddly I have never had a friend who was of the Republican Party persuasion berate me, or bash me for my views.  I have only been respected or at the least, forgiven. ;)

Sadly I have been badgered, berated & bashed by Democrats for expressing any opposing views regarding the Democratic candidates.  

Having experiencing only friendly discussions most of my life I don’t understand how the line crosses to a personal attack simply because someone sees things differently.  I judge people by their kindness & actions, not by their political views.  
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 06:56:01 PM
So glad to hear MattH's report on An Autumn Afternoon.  I have never seen a bad Ozu film, even though many of his films share similar themes and stories.  MattH is right when he says it's a film of small shattering details - there are never "big" moments in Ozu, but all the small details suddenly stir incredible emotions in the viewer and the viewer isn't even aware of how they got there.  For those who've never seen an Ozu film, I cannot recommend them highly enough - Tokyo Story, Early Spring, Late Autumn, Early Summer, Good Morning, Floating Weeds and all the others - they're all wonderful human films.  As those who've been here may remember, I couldn't stop watching Ozu films about three years ago - one after another, all of them wonderful and moving and funny.  And the thing is, his style never wavers - it's rigorous in the sense that he puts the camera at the eye level of the characters and observes them.  There are few moving shots, if any, in Ozu films.  And on the handful of occasions where he does move the camera it's always just right.  A master filmmaker.
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 06:58:00 PM
Up until the last election I was never involved in a heated political discussion that became personal, NEVER!


Oddly I have never had a friend who was of the Republican Party persuasion berate me, or bash me for my views.  I have only been respected or at the least, forgiven. ;)

Sadly I have been badgered, berated & bashed by Democrats for expressing any opposing views regarding the Democratic candidates.  

Having experiencing only friendly discussions most of my life I don’t understand how the line crosses to a personal attack simply because someone sees things differently.  I judge people by their kindness & actions, not by their political views.  


And there is the crux - just because people disagree, the line should not be crossed into a personal attack.  Not saying that's what's happened here, but it can occasionally appear that way when the opposing view is stated with vehemence.
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Post by: Jane on September 27, 2008, 06:58:15 PM
Bruce, it sounds like you had a very interesting & enjoyable day.
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 06:58:16 PM
Will we never get to page eleven?
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 06:58:29 PM
I wonder what we'll be supping on this evening?
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Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 07:01:20 PM
The day was really fun.  And it's fun to see the current students really getting into these events.  I knew it would be slow-going to build interest, and it has been, especially with the alums, for whom we're actually doing these events - very few have come down to support them, and funnily, those who don't are probably those who would benefit most.  But, what else is new?  Eventually, I think the "hip" factor will kick in - if I have my way, these events are going to become popular and the word will get out and they'll start really filling up, and once that happens, I suspect our non-committal alums will suddenly start showing up.
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Post by: Jane on September 27, 2008, 07:12:08 PM
'night
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Post by: td on September 27, 2008, 07:13:34 PM
I am enjoying a nice chunk of caramel apple cake before a viewing of the new dvd of L.A. CONFIDENTIAL, one of my all-time favorite films taken from one of my all-time favorite novels.
I've watched a couple of the new docs and am happy to report that neither Laurent BooringZooReau nor Drew Caspar are involved.
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Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 07:22:30 PM
This has been a bad week for electical applainces in Chateu de le Vixter

~~~ALL-AROUND VIBES FOR THE VIXTER CLAN!!~~~
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on September 27, 2008, 07:23:19 PM
I am very offended. I am singing the hymns while typing in the words into the PowerPoint. Sassy (my son's cat) is making that yowl she makes whenever my son sings off-key. Do you think she is trying to tell me something?
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Post by: MBarnum on September 27, 2008, 07:27:07 PM
The audience ate her up......  


Oh gosh, that is too bad. But, I have heard of things like that happening when the snack bar closes down too early.
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Post by: Ginny on September 27, 2008, 07:27:24 PM
DR Laura - Richard was whistling the tunes to tomorrow's hymns and, for a change, they're all familiar to me.  Sometimes I have trouble with the Anglican hymnal.
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Post by: MBarnum on September 27, 2008, 07:31:22 PM
I dinner was a can of some type of stuff that had a label all written in Greek. I think it was grape leaves stuffed with rice...but I am not sure.

It did taste good, however.
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Post by: MBarnum on September 27, 2008, 07:35:36 PM
I am watching the 1950s film THREE STRIPES IN THE SUN. It has Aldo Ray playing a Sargeant who hates the Japanese but ends up stationed in Osaka during occupation.

When he ends up visiting a rundown orphanage his heart melts and he helps construct a new one with the assistance of his comrades and a very pretty Japanese translator.

Of course I started getting misty eyed as soon as the credits began! LOL!
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Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 07:41:07 PM

...is anyone else planning on seeing this broadcast of Rent?

DR George - I am going today at 1:00 PM.

I still haven't seen firm confirmation on whether or not this will ultimately be released on DVD.  But most of the reaction has been extremely positive regarding the quality of the final product.

Well, I'm back from seeing "Rent," having lunch and doing a bit of shopping.  Overall, I really enjoyed "Rent" and highly recommend it...but the camera work was more than a tad frenetic.  There was just too much cutting back and forth between shots, especially when there was a lot of movement on stage.  It was difficult to focus on what was happening.  And there were too many close-ups, again, especially when there was a lot of action. :P They should've pulled back and showed the whole picture more often than they did...a lot more.  The movie version of "Chicago" had nothing on this version of "Rent." ;)

But other than that, it was a great show.  The singers were all great (Mark was a real cutie!) and it was just really cool to see a Broadway musical on the screen.  I love things like that...even on TV. :D
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Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 07:44:43 PM
DR vixmom and George et al - As for the "Rent" screenings... The lines here in NYC were loooooong(!) on Wednesday and Thursday nights.  -And I have friends who are already planning on lining up at least two hours before the showing tomorrow, so... -It may not be that popular in your neck of the woods, but ya' never know.

I got to the theater at about 11:30 and it started at noon.  I was the first one there.  Eventually, about 20-25 people came in.  That was it.  But everyone seemed to love it.  My friend Margo is planning on going again tomorrow.  If it wasn't my sister's birthday party/barbecue tomorrow, I'd go again, too.

And I would assume that like Legally Blonde that was shown on MTV, this will never be available on DVD.
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Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 07:52:59 PM
I just read about Paul Newman. :'(
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Post by: FJL on September 27, 2008, 07:54:41 PM
Something tells me (just a hunch, no inside info) that someday, someone will pony up the money to get that Legally Blonde that was on MTV several times out on DVD.  Unlike the Rent filming, so many people were able to tape Legally Blonde when it was on TV, and legal copes of legal copies abound in the world, so i think saner heads will prevail and make it affordable to pay people off to release the thing.
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Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 08:04:31 PM
And, sadly, I believe DR Danise's DD Bear has passed on too. :(

~~~Vibes of Comfort for DR Danise!!~~~
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Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 08:12:28 PM
Something tells me (just a hunch, no inside info) that someday, someone will pony up the money to get that Legally Blonde that was on MTV several times out on DVD.  Unlike the Rent filming, so many people were able to tape Legally Blonde when it was on TV, and legal copes of legal copies abound in the world, so i think saner heads will prevail and make it affordable to pay people off to release the thing.

Well... Now that Legally Blonde is closing, MTV will not have to pay the "royalties" to those entitled to them - there was some sort of structured payout based on how long the show ran, just in case MTV should choose to show it again.  So... Now that those funds are "available".. ??
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Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 08:14:55 PM
I dinner was a can of some type of stuff that had a label all written in Greek. I think it was grape leaves stuffed with rice...but I am not sure.

It did taste good, however.

-And just where and how did you get this can of indeterminate culinary origin?
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Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 08:18:01 PM
DR George, Joe Orton is one of my favorite playwrights because of his outrageous wit, insane plotting, and inner rage. I believe his plays are the funniest things written since Noel Coward's best comedies, and his style calls for the easy repartee of Oscar Wilde cmbined with the violence and rablood of a violent film: when one of the robbers in LOOT tells Truscott "You have got me bloodied and on the floor" and the shootings occur at the end of WHAT THE BUTLER SAW, the blood should be realistic.

Orton's not easy to perform: of the 7 or 8 different productions of WHAT THE BUTLER SAW that I've seen, only the 1973 Wiliamstown Theatre production with John Glover, David Dukes, and Lynn Milgrim came the closest to being an ideal representation of the show's style.  There's a not-too-good film of LOOT with Lee Remick as the killer nurse, and you might want to track it down on VHS, and a rather good film of ENTERTAINING MR SLOAN with the late, great Beryl Reid. The film bio of John Lahr's book PRICK UP YOUR EARS is very interesting and goes into detail the tribulations of the original disastrous London-bound production of LOOT, which couldn't make it into London, and how another director took the script and made it a success.

I saw John Tillinger's Broadway production with Alec Baldwin and Zeljko Ivanek as the robbers, but I thought he miscast Joe Maher and Charles Keating and they should have switched roles. Charles was too sly to play McLeavyand would have been better as the corrupt police inspector.

There are grrat lines in LOOT:
   "Total extermination has done nothing to silence her slanderous togue."
   "What a thing to happen to a man who's been kissed by the pope!"

Thanks for the info and insight.  That helps, a lot. :)
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Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 08:29:08 PM
I bet it was a glass eyeball!

SPOILERS!!!

;)
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Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 08:30:42 PM
My biggest intention tonight was to watch MICHAEL CLAYTON for fun and then get on with watching NUMBERS as my next review item.

A couple of lengthy phone calls prevented me from carrying out my plan.
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Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 08:31:17 PM
Very exciting possibilities and opportunities, DR George!!!    :D   I hope that the one you choose makes you happy!

Thanks!  I think I'll have fun either way, as long as I don't panic about all the words that I'd have to memorize in "Loot." ;)

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Post by: S. Woody White on September 27, 2008, 08:31:41 PM
...I then asked her how many times she went on for Miss Grimes while standing by - the answer?  One.  Which led the discussion where I wanted - the fact that in days of old (up until about twenty years ago) stars and leading players would have rather DIED than miss a performance and let their understudy go on.  Now, it's all personal days, and people missing if their having sniffles, or PMS, or a headache, or they need to do a concert somewhere.  It was unthinkable back then and frankly it should be unthinkable now.  Miss Morrow told of being told she had to miss a performance (of Drood, I think) because they wanted to see how the understudy was.  She didn't want to miss, and, in fact, hung out at the theater because she felt she should be going on. ...

I'm not entirely sure I agree with you here, BK.  While missing performances at the drop of a hankie is not a good thing in any way shape or form (just as it isn't a good thing where I work, or at any other work environment), for producers asking a lead performer to miss a performance so that the understudy could be seen in the heat of a performance may be a good thing, particularly in this day and age where it is the show, and not necessarily the performer, that is the draw.  I would, in fact, want this to happen, rather than throw the understudy onto the stage only to discover that he/she was totally inadequate and destroying everybody else's performance in the process.

(This coming on the day that our morning-shift cart wrangler, Frank, who is highly disciplined and would never call out without good reason, did indeed call out.  It turned out that none of the other wranglers would even return the calls that went out, asking them to come in to help, so a bunch of us took turns, not just myself without being asked.  And management did take note of who was pitching in.)
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Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 08:33:45 PM

I've watched a couple of the new docs and am happy to report that neither Laurent BooringZooReau nor Drew Caspar are involved.

Well then they simply cannot be any good at all!

 ::)     :-*
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: S. Woody White on September 27, 2008, 08:33:53 PM
We are getting a big windstorm.

I thought you never discussed politics!


 ;)
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 08:35:43 PM
So, I skipped MICHAEL CLAYTON and began NUMBERS. I was able to get three episodes watched (there are 18 in this season's box set.)

I was very surprised to see Val Kilmer (IS Moses) as the guest star in the season premiere of NUMBERS.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 08:38:14 PM
Also on the first disc is an almost one hour documentary on the season premiere episode. I'll be watching that tomorrow afternoon.

I do plan to watch the HD of MAD MEN (the episode from two weeks ago which I still haven't caught) tomorrow while I cook and eat lunch. Don't know when I'll get to SMALLVILLE.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: MBarnum on September 27, 2008, 08:40:31 PM
Done with Aldo Ray and now time to watch a Bollywood movie.

Tonight's selection is AAROP (1973)starring Vinod Khanna, Saira Bano, and Rehman. It is a story of love and the fight against injustice in small town.


 All I care is that I see some dancing!




(http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/nehaflix_2021_80943148)

Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 08:44:38 PM
Honestly, I don't know how I'm going to vote.

There's always Mickey Mouse. ;)
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: S. Woody White on September 27, 2008, 08:50:16 PM
...Oddly I have never had a friend who was of the Republican Party persuasion berate me, or bash me for my views.  I have only been respected or at the least, forgiven. ;)

Sadly I have been badgered, berated & bashed by Democrats for expressing any opposing views regarding the Democratic candidates.  ...

This skews with my own personal experiences in the past.

Back when der B and I were serving on the Republican Central Committee for our Congressional district, we would regularly have to face other Republicans who were diametrically opposed to anyone or anthing that was gay.  While their anathma was fairly obvious, they never berated us face to face.  If anything, they held their rhetoric in check - something that led to der B and myself being invited to all sorts of events where our group of tolerant and inclusive Republican friends (no, that is not an oxymoron) were glad of our bottle-stopper effect.  It was wonderously funny at times.

On the other hand, we lost track of the times that we would be representing Log Cabin at one event or another, and members of the "Gay Left" would come at us, literally screaming at us that we were self-hating traitors to the cause.  Some of them would literally order us not to interrupt while they piled on their abuse.  It led me to wonder - who exactly was doing the hating?
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: S. Woody White on September 27, 2008, 08:57:12 PM
I've a fairly early call to work tomorrow.  Hasta.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: Matt H. on September 27, 2008, 09:00:52 PM
I stayed up far too late last night reading, so I'm heading down now and going right to bed.

Good night!
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 09:04:42 PM
DR George - I had a similar experience to you with Rent - I arrived a half hour early, only to be the first one to arrive.  And in a theatre seating perhaps a few hundred people, there was a total audience of under 30 people.

The editing was a bit "busy, " but it did capture the theatrical experience pretty well.  As I had never seen Rent live on Broadway, I was grateful for the experience, and the cast sang the score very well, I thought.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 09:13:24 PM
DR George - I had a similar experience to you with Rent - I arrived a half hour early, only to be the first one to arrive.  And in a theatre seating perhaps a few hundred people, there was a total audience of under 30 people.

The editing was a bit "busy, " but it did capture the theatrical experience pretty well.  As I had never seen Rent live on Broadway, I was grateful for the experience, and the cast sang the score very well, I thought.

Well... I guess it was a "New York" thing... When I passed by Chelsea Clearview Cinemas earlier today, they had a big "Sold Out" sign in the box office window, and another big sign saying, "Line for RENT starts ->"...  And my friends who went today got there about 45 minutes before the movie started and the line was already 200 people deep.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 09:15:08 PM
The other great story she told was being in Follies out here for the Long Beach CLO.  Susan Johnson was also in the company, and Susan Johnson was Karen's idol, as Karen loved Ooh, My Feet and everything else Miss Johnson did in The Most Happy Fella (Miss Morrow eventually played that role for a Civic Center revival a few years later).  When she finally met her, she cried for about a week, she said.  Then, on opening night, Miss Johnson gave her a gift - the very gift that Frank Loesser had given her on opening night of Fella - a genuine amethyst tie pin (those who know the show will understand).  She said to Karen, "I can't think of anyone who should have this more than you."

I LOVE stories like that! ;D
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 09:18:15 PM
...And today's showing of the "Rent" movie in Times Square also happened to be attended by many of the people in the show/cast/movie.  They actually got to see their own closing show!
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 09:19:38 PM
George:

Yesterday, you announced being cast in Orton's Loot.  

CONGRATULATIONS!

Der B and I enjoyed the play when it was presented by the International City Theater in Long Beach.  It's good social satire, unafraid of making it's jabs.  You'll have a good time.

Just be careful - at ICT the thrust stage was given a very steep rake, and at one point a significant prop fell and rolled off the stage!  Fortunately, one of the actors was also a trained circus clown, and mimed opening a window, climbed out, fetched the unfortunate prop and returned to the stage the way he came.  Obviously not part of the script, his action brought down the house.

The moral being: BE PREPARED FOR ANY AND EVERYTHING!!!

Have a great time!

Thanks!  Fortunately, this production will be held in a storefront theater that holds maybe 40-50 people, at the most, so there is no raised stage.  It's all down on the floor.  The chairs are on risers, which is a good thing.  But it's a very small area.  Even if something rolled anywhere, it can't go very far. :)
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: George on September 27, 2008, 09:24:17 PM
Well, I must be off, again.  I am going to see Lord Franzannian's Royal Olympian Spectacular Vaudeville Show (http://www.buyolympia.com/events/?details=363)! ;) Tonight's 10:00 pm showing benefits the performers!  They get the money from the ticket sales, so I'm doing my part to help...and I know a lot of the performers, so that'll be fun.

Until later...much later!
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: singdaw on September 27, 2008, 09:30:25 PM
I am very, very sorry that Karen Morrow will not be coming into NY in White Christmas.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: JoseSPiano on September 27, 2008, 09:47:10 PM
DR singdaw - Don't you have to sing in a few hours?
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 10:44:35 PM
Oddly I have never had a friend who was of the Republican Party persuasion

Please - being Republican is not a persuasion, it is a hard wired personality trait - it is nature, not nurture...

Oh wait, that's the Gay Lifestyle argument....never mind

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 10:46:06 PM
 Even if something rolled anywhere, it can't go very far. :)

And if it did, you could do your Dolly Dimples impersonation and roll right after it :D

der Brucer
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 11:00:01 PM
I'm not entirely sure I agree with you here, BK.  While missing performances at the drop of a hankie is not a good thing in any way shape or form (just as it isn't a good thing where I work, or at any other work environment), for producers asking a lead performer to miss a performance so that the understudy could be seen in the heat of a performance may be a good thing, particularly in this day and age where it is the show, and not necessarily the performer, that is the draw.  I would, in fact, want this to happen, rather than throw the understudy onto the stage only to discover that he/she was totally inadequate and destroying everybody else's performance in the process.

(This coming on the day that our morning-shift cart wrangler, Frank, who is highly disciplined and would never call out without good reason, did indeed call out.  It turned out that none of the other wranglers would even return the calls that went out, asking them to come in to help, so a bunch of us took turns, not just myself without being asked.  And management did take note of who was pitching in.)

They have regular understudy rehearsals.  I think producers could watch them and learn what they had to learn.  I was doing a play at the Mark Taper Forum - the air conditioning there was really out of control and I got sick and got terrible laryngitits.  I got through the two Sunday performances, and Monday was our off day.  I told them that no matter what I would not miss a performance - they sent me to the best ENT doctor in the city - the one formerly known as Dr. Feelgood.  He treated my throat, swabbed me, gave me a shot, and told me not to talk at all during the day and night of Monday, and the days through Friday and he told me I'd be able to go on for Tuesday night's show - and I did.  And I never missed.  And my understudy never went on, but the powers that be knew what his performance was like because there'd been an understudy run-through with a small audience.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 11:01:32 PM
Someone please tell me Cilla will be back tomorrow.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: bk on September 27, 2008, 11:02:02 PM
Back from a wonderully wonderful dinner party - great food, great guests, and I'll have a full report in the notes.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: td on September 27, 2008, 11:13:30 PM
I still love L.A. CONFIDENTIAL.

One of the stars of television's new season, Simon Baker - or as he was billed then Simon Baker Denny - has a very good role in L.A. CONFIDENTIAL.
Title: Re:THE BROKEN RECORD REDUX
Post by: DERBRUCER on September 27, 2008, 11:40:43 PM
I love fresh grated nutmeg! Especially topping off a banana milk shake that has been enhanced with 3oz. of VSOP Cognac.

der Brucer