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Title: MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 12:01:58 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you know from the notes, the notes know from you, who could ask for anything more?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Panni on February 26, 2004, 12:10:15 AM
I had a physics teacher named Mr. Lent in high school. I hated physics. And I wasn't very fond of Mr. Lent. So could I give up Lent for Lent?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 12:14:31 AM
So could I give up Lent for Lent?

So cruel to give him up, why not let him go temporarily; run an ad:

Lent to Rent for Lent

Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Panni on February 26, 2004, 12:16:15 AM
Why am I not sleepy?? I've been up since 5:30 AM. It's been a very weird day. Had the scariest experience early this morning. Was taking my morning walk and I suddenly couldn't breathe and started to black out. Luckily I was right beside a row of trash cans, so I grabbed onto one and leaned on it until my breath came back. Then I was fine and finished my walk, no problem. Maybe this is the Twilight Zone and I'm actually lying dead next to the trash can  - and that's why I'm not sleepy. The Dead don't get sleepy. Cue Rod. Cue Music.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Tomovoz on February 26, 2004, 12:19:52 AM
The songs of my childhood were the popular novelty songs of the day. Patti Page "How Much Is that Doggie In The Window", Rosemary Clooney with "Where Will the Dimple Be? and Frankie Laine & Jimmy Boyd with "Tell Me A Story". I also remember liking and singing along with Rusty Draper's "The Railroad Runs Through The Middle Of The House" and Rosemary Clooney & Gordon McRae singing "The Place Where I Worship".  I also remember thinking how clever was the Dinah Shore song "Sweet Violets".
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Panni on February 26, 2004, 12:22:11 AM
Lent to Rent for Lent
Clever! I may not be sleepy, but my brain is fried, otherwise I'd try an continue it. Maybe one of the other late night denizens...
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 12:22:14 AM
Not  necessarily "childhood" songs - but actual songs targeted to young listeners.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Panni on February 26, 2004, 12:25:11 AM
Childhood songs. I don't think I liked children's songs when I was a child. We had a fake Jolson album - someone singing Jolson songs, imitating him. I used to sing along with that. "Sonny Boy" was a favorite. I was a weird kid.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 12:31:45 AM
As promised last night:

In Defense of Gay Marriage  (http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/04/23/lost-washburn.php)

(excerpts)

So just shut up and buy Adam and Steve a nice present already

by Jim Washburn

Responding to the Massachusetts ruling, Bush released a statement saying, "Marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman. If activist judges insist on re-defining marriage by court order, the only alternative will be the constitutional process. We must do what is legally necessary to defend the sanctity of marriage."

Before we all go into knee-jerk paroxysms of knee-slapping hilarity over this non-issue being hoisted by these moral morons, consider their side for a minute: Does allowing gays to marry threaten the institution of marriage?

If you really think about it, the answer is an unequivocal yes.

If you’re straight and married, you’ve almost certainly got gay people to thank for it. Wedding planners, florists, clothiers, hairstylists, caterers, priests: it’s no mere stereotype that these professions abound in gay folk, and your wedding would have been drab if not impossible without them. Add to that the gay friends and officemates who make such a pleasant and positive fuss about your nuptials. And TV’s Queer Eye spiff-up squad is only a distillation of what gay people have been doing for ages: making straight men and women look desirable, or at least survivable, to each other so that they might hook up.

If gays were busy getting married themselves, do you think they’d have time to preen the rest of us? We’d all be back in the trailer park in our overalls, picking scabs off our unmoisturized faces and wondering why the phone doesn’t ring. It is only because gays can’t marry that they get caught up at all in the romance and filigree of heterosexual marriage, and they’d be off us like fleas off a wet dog if they could go to weddings that didn’t depend upon our breeder antics. It’s not just marriage, but the very survival of the species that depends upon gays being forcibly kept—by constitutional amendment, if need be—in their role as our eternal best men and bridesmaids.
...
But gay marriage would make a mockery of marriage! And that’s the job of heterosexuals, right? Can they possibly screw it up worse than straight folks? The divorce rate’s higher than 50 percent, and couples are bailing out of marriages quicker than ever; something like 60 percent of married men and 40 percent of married women have extramarital affairs; and their kids who aren’t busy shooting their classmates are packed with so many pills they sound like maracas when you shake them.
...

But for all of history, marriage has meant the sacred bond between a man and a woman! Except for when it meant a man and several women, or a man and a woman and his deceased brother’s wife, or a man and his slave, which wasn’t significantly different from being his wife since women were chattel with no say in their own lives and certainly no vote. Let’s be guided in all things by historical precedent, shall we? I’ll go lock up the slaves and child laborers while you go get the horse—but don’t hook no buggy to it because that ain’t how we done things—and we’ll go downtown and shout down those apostates trying to introduce antibiotics, electricity, pavement, baseball and all that other newfangled nonsense.


But what about the Bible? Oh, you mean the part where Jesus chased the gays from the temple with a stick? Hold on, I read that wrong: it was the money changers Jesus was after, suggesting that today he’d be whacking heads on Wall Street not Christopher Street. But what about the time he berated the mob of gay people? Oops, sorry, it wasn’t gays; it was a mob of judgmental zealots that he told off, remember, when he admonished that only he who was without sin should cast the first stone.








Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Panni on February 26, 2004, 12:31:45 AM
Oh. New definition. Songs targeted to young listeners. Skinny Mi Rink (sp?) - Sharon, Lois and Brams's Elephant Song.
And Supercalifragilistic (sp.) from Mary Poppins.
More tomorrow. I really should at least get into bed. Maybe if I snuggle in and read, I'll fall asleep. 'Night all.
Good good good vibes to all who read this.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: George on February 26, 2004, 01:00:15 AM
I was silent (meaning non-posting) over the last couple of hours or so because I was catching up on reading the posts as well as being interrupted by "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart" and "South Park" (it was absolutely hysterical!  The boys t.p.'d their art teacher's house and the cop had to get information from a Hannibal Lechter-like kid who was also a t.p.er).  Then on a local cable access channel, they were showing "Classic Arts Showcase (http://www.classicartsshowcase.org)" and Samuel Ramey (sp?) was singing "Joey, Joey, Joey" from The Most Happy Fella.  I knew that he had recorded the song, but I didn't know that he (an opera singer) had made a music video of a musical theater song.  Pretty cool...well, the idea behind it, I mean.  The video itself was kind of boring.

As for the Topic of the Day:
"Bare Necessities" from "The Jungle Book"
"Zip-A-De-Do-Da" from “Song of the South” (I can remember seeing this in the very early 1970s when my dad was in the army and we lived in Germany)
"Snoopy and the Red Baron" (I consider this a children’s song...even if it wasn’t originally intended to be)
Other than those, I don’t think I really cared for "children’s songs."
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: S. Woody White on February 26, 2004, 01:21:56 AM
And Supercalifragilistic (sp.) from Mary Poppins.
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

Dociousaliexpisticfragilcalirupes being a case of going too far.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jrand73 on February 26, 2004, 02:57:32 AM
DR JOSE I love "Ice Castles."  

Hmmmmmmm....first song that came to my mind was Hey Jimmy Joe John Jim Jack sung by Miss Debbie Reynolds!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jrand73 on February 26, 2004, 04:22:31 AM
I think everyone who uses EBAY and/or PayPal has done that at least once.  I know I did - the email makes it sound so urgent...."do this NOW to protect your account...."  And it was a pain in the neck, I had to get a new credit card and change all my accounts....it was mess.  Now I just delete them - or forward them to spoof@paypal.com and ask if it is legitimate before responding.  

OH - I just bought the 4 OMEN movies in one DVD set for about $23!  Whew....I logged on to buy CAMP, and just happened to think of THE OMEN - and there it was!  

I think my favorite is OMEN 3 with Sam Neilll....whew!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 26, 2004, 05:24:28 AM
BK, I sort of hate to tell you this, but Lent started yesterday, so it's too late to give up stupidity now.  Instead, think of something you didn't do or didn't have yesterday, and continue not to do it or have it until Easter.  It may be retro-lenting, but at least it's retro.  And anything that's retro is trendy and cool!

I happen to be an old hand at giving up things for Lent.  I'm very detailed and organized with my self-sacrifices.  I keep tabs on everything through spreadsheets and my PDA.  This year I'm giving up potato-chips and chocolate.

Favorite childhood song?  I have two.  The first is "Found a Peanut".  It had humor, drama, pathos and irony--it was an emotional roller coaster of a song!  I also like something that I think was called "The Orchestra".  The teacher would divide the class into groups and each group would sing about a musical instrement and then all the groups would sing together in counterpoint.  I was always in the clarenet group.  The real neat thing about this song was that, at the end, when all the groups were singing their parts, you could pretty much get away with singing whatever you wanted.  My best friend (a fellow clarenetist) and I would often go off on a verse of "The Name Game":  "Chuck!  Chuck! Bo buck! Banana fanna fo--" well you get the ideal.

I also enjoyed listening to the Mary Poppins soundtrack a lot.  "I Love to Laugh" was probably my favorite track.

DVD question:  I want to buy the UPSTAIRS, DOWNSTAIRS Complete Series boxed set but I've heard that the transfers are so bad, I might as well save money and buy it on VHS.  Can anyone verify if this is true or not?  Thanks...
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: elmore3003 on February 26, 2004, 05:32:18 AM
Childrens' songs!  I really like some of the Christmas ones:

1.  I'm gettin' nothin' for Christmas (Barry Gordon)
2.  Suzy Snowflake (Rosemary Clooney) and I seem to recall a sequel, "Egbert the Easter Egg" as well on Little Golden Records
3..  Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer (Gene Autry)

I can only think of one Classical to enter the Pantheon:

4.  Evening Prayer from Hansel & Gretel (Elisabeth Schwarzkopf/Elisabeth Grummer)

A lot of my favorite Disney songs, while written for films in the family market, seem to me more geared to the adults in the family, such as "The Second Star to the Right" and "When you Wish Upon A Star," even Peggy Lee's "He's A Tramp," so I'll mention only a few Disney I loved as a kid:

5.  Zip-a-dee-doo-dah
6.  Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo (Verna Felton)
7,  I've Got No Strings (I always liked Barbra on this one)
8.  Heigh-ho and all the other Dwarf songs, especially "Silly song"
9.  Painting the Roses Red (Mellow Men?)
10.  Bare Necessities (who did sing that?(

In musical theatre, there have been tons of family musicals, so a few I like would be these:

11.  March of the Toys and almost the entire score of BABES IN TOYLAND
12.  Raggedy Ann (Kern) from STEPPING STONES
13.  Wendy (Mary Martin)
14.  March of the Siamese Children
15.  Whistle a Happy Tune

Film and television:

16.  In My Own Little Corner (Julie Andrews)
17.  The Good Lord's Blessing (Mr Magoo's Christmas Carol), but "Winter Was Warm," which I love, is not a children's song
18.  Wonderful Copenhagen (drove my mother crazy with it!)

19.  This Old Man (wasn't that used in a film?)

On another classical sideline, if you DRs don't know Roger Quilter's "Children's Overture" you might want to hear what he does with a bunch of nursery rhymes.
It's a great piece of light classical music.





 







Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Noel on February 26, 2004, 05:52:37 AM
I also like something that I think was called "The Orchestra".  The teacher would divide the class into groups and each group would sing about a musical instrement and then all the groups would sing together in counterpoint.  I was always in the clarenet group.  The real neat thing about this song was that, at the end, when all the groups were singing their parts, you could pretty much get away with singing whatever you wanted.

I did that with my song improv class last night.  Had everybody choose an orchestral instrument, and we improvised a symphony.

"Feed the Birds" is my favorite song written for children.

It was Walt Disney's, too.  He had a piano in his office, and, during the making of Mary Poppins, would often have the Sherman Brothers come in and sing it for him.  The brilliance of Mary Poppins is due, in part, to the hands-on approach of a studio head: The Sherman Brothers played a lot a songs for Disney which he rejected, sending them back to the drawing board again and again.

"Hey Jimmy Joe John Jim Jack" as recorded by The Limelighters, was my favorite children's song when I was a child.

But it was actually not written for children, but the rather adult musical, Let 'Em Ride.  (I don't mean in the x-rated sense.)  My appreciation for this song, expressed a year ago on ratm, sent the Scourge of Ratm, Stephen Newport, into such a lather he started bad-mouthing me on animal rights newsgroups (!).  He  sees malicious torture where it ain't, and misses it in his own behavior.

There's always something wrong with America, right?  A president gets to look at the country, with all its problems, and prioritize, proclaiming: "This is what I want to fix."  Does anybody believe that what's wrong with America today is gay marriage?  And, a few years ago, the inheritance tax?  His father passed only one piece of major domestic legislation (the disabilities act) and was decried for "the vision thing."  But looking at America today and thinking "We need to ban gay marriages in the constitution" goes beyond myopia.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Ben on February 26, 2004, 05:54:31 AM
Larry (elmore3003) asked:

10.  Bare Necessities (who did sing that?)

It was Phil Harris, wasn't it? In the Jungle Book movie if I'm remembering correctly.

I like the John Lithgow CD Singin' in the Bathtub with all sorts of kid's songs or songs aimed at a young listener.

I also love I've Got No Strings (again thanks to Larry for mentioning it).
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jrand73 on February 26, 2004, 05:56:14 AM
Aha - reading all the wonderful choices!

When I was a child, I heard a song in a movie, and I learned it (since it was sung SEVERAL times in said movie) bought the record....and even though there are others I like A LOT....this is my favorite.

By the original singer....Miss Doris Day....

QUE SERA SERA
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: td on February 26, 2004, 05:58:05 AM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]~ ~ ~ ~ ~ MINX sends good vibes to MAGNUS  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~[/move]

I think that DR Elmore stole my childhood songs!   ;)

Still, i'd add:
"The Dressing Song" - 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T.
"I Can't Do the Sum" - Babes in Toyland (Oooh! Annette!)
"I'm Henry the Eighth, I Am" - Herman's Hermits
"Little One" - High Society
"Mairzy Doats and Dozey Oats"
"High Hopes" - A Hole in the Head
"Inchworm" - Hans Christian Anderson
"The Monkey's Uncle" - (Oooh! Annette again!)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Ben on February 26, 2004, 06:12:36 AM
Also The Tiny Scout from An Affair to Remember (I love that movie - hankies at the ready)

And even though they are very adult-oriented, I love the Alan Sherman parodies.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: William E. Lurie on February 26, 2004, 06:39:40 AM
There was a children's show host in Chicago during the very early days of television in Chicago named Dick "Two Ton" Baker and he sang songs like "I'm A Lonely Little Petunia in an Onion Patch" and "I'm a Little Teapot".  I liked those and "The Itsy Bitsy Spider".
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jennifer on February 26, 2004, 06:39:50 AM
Good vibes to doggie Magnum on a speedy recovery ~~~~~~~~~~~

Btw BK, aren't you Jewish. Why are you giving up anything for Lent? :)

Thinking about your paypal fraud email, I think what happened will help many people (at least everyone here).  I've gotten fraudulent paypal emails before.  But never one where they are able to show your username.  Some of us might think that the only way they can scam us is if we ENTER our personal info.  Some of us might not realize that simply entering our password could give them this info.  So really you've done us a public service. Feel better now? :)

Btw, I'm sure everything will be fine. You were quick to act on it. And if they had done anything, wouldn't it have been yesterday?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jennifer on February 26, 2004, 06:47:24 AM
Re: last night's American Idol.

Obviously LaToya was going to move on. I'm very surprised all 3 judges thought Leah would be the second.  I did like her.  But I did not think she would be in the top 3 last night.

Somewhat predictably (especially if you read the idolonfox message board) it was Amy (pink hair) second and Jon (pen salesman) third.  I actually really wanted Jon to advance (although I was pretty sure he wouldn't).

Anyone have any guesses for the wildcard show?

I think #3 guy from the first show. Maybe Lisa from last week's show (since the judges thought she was robbed), and hopefully jon, leah, and eric from last night's show.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 07:02:37 AM

19.  This Old Man (wasn't that used in a film?)


Yup. Extracted from Republican News (http://republican-news.org/archive/1997/December18/18gino.html):

Close to the bone
By Eoghan Mac Cormaic

My own favourite, ever since I first saw Ingrid Bergmann in `The Inn of the Sixth Happiness', was `This Old Man'. Remember it? This old man, he played one, he played knick-knack on my thumb, with a knick-knack paddy-whack give the dog a bone, this old man came rolling home'. A classic.

der Brucer (see third word of quote and author's name for a hint about the source)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 07:07:35 AM

Btw BK, aren't you Jewish. Why are you giving up anything for Lent? :)


Jewish men give up a lot very early in life.

der Brucer - HHW honarary mohel
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 07:17:37 AM
Gay Marriage hits a bump(er)!

A Florida woman was upset when here husband of 10 years came out of the closet and met a man and filed for divorce. His wife strongly opposes gay marriages like our dear President. He decided to create a bumper sticker that reads the following:
 
"If you let us marry each other...we will stop marrying YOU!"

Did not see it yet but did see an interesting bumper sticker at a GOP gathering and the sales person was wondering why several guys bought a batch of them.
 
For sale at a GOP gathering:
 
SINGLE & CONSERVATIVE....
 Looking for Mr. Right

The sales person was wondering why several guys bought a batch of them ::)

der Brucer (wondering about stickers for hogs - the "vrooom" type, not the "oink" type)



Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 07:51:19 AM
It's a cinch one of the judges will pick Leah fro last night as a wild card. I thought Lisa from last week was more talented than Leah, so I hope someone else remembers her. Matthew Metzger was the fella from the first show who finished third. I did not think he had a very versatile voice, at least not in the song he sang that night, but both he and Jon seem to be audience favorites so one of them might very well be the audience wild card selection.

Just a comment: it's snowing like crazy here and supposed to go on all day and night. A real blizzard for the South!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 07:55:34 AM
Growing up PETER PAN was always my favorite Disney film (I fully believed one day scientists would develop a pill that would allow everyone to fly), so the songs from it, especially "You Can Fly" and "The Second Star to the Right" were sung and played on the piano all the time. When I saw the Mary Martin PETER PAN, I also added "Neverland," "I Gotta Crow," and "I'm Flying."

When my brother had his first child, my mom used to babysit a lot, and I heard her sing "Little Sir Echo" to my nephew all the time. She said it was my favorite song as a baby, but I didn't remember it at all.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jrand73 on February 26, 2004, 08:02:16 AM
Snow!!!???

DRNOEL - I liked the Limelighters version of  Hey, JJJJJ, as well....heard them sing it at a Pavilion during the 1964 World's Fair in New York...Flushing Meadow, I think....  Have you heard Debbie's version?  It's a kick!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jennifer on February 26, 2004, 08:08:51 AM
It's a cinch one of the judges will pick Leah from last night as a wild card. I thought Lisa from last week was more talented than Leah, so I hope someone else remembers her. Matthew Metzger was the fella from the first show who finished third. I did not think he had a very versatile voice, at least not in the song he sang that night, but both he and Jon seem to be audience favorites so one of them might very well be the audience wild card selection.

I'm trying to remember how the selection works for the Wild Card show.

I think maybe we are talking about 2 different things. I'm just talking about which 8-12 contestants will make the Wild Card show (not which 4 will advance to the finals from the wild card).

How do they choose the wild card contestants?  Does each judge get choose 3 or 4?

I think last year EVERY third place votee advanced to the wild card show (meaning matthew, lisa and jon).

I think the judges were very happy with last night's group. So more from there should advance.

I think the most interesting will be who they choose (who weren't in the top 32).  This is the first year that they've shown extensive audition footage. So we actually know a lot more about contestants who didn't make it to the top 32.

The Wild card show is actually my favorite show.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 08:17:27 AM
If you noticed in the previews last night, George Huff has replaced the semifinalist who was arrested on Monday for drunk driving/speeding (100 m.p.h.). George was not one of the original 32 semifinalists.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 08:22:31 AM
Haven't had a chance to catch up on yesterday's late posts, so this may have already been mentioned, but was anyone else disappointed in last night's American Masters on Judy?  Maybe I'm over-critical, having spent a couple of years researching Judy for my Judy/Frances musical, but there was SO much fascinating information they either didn't mention or completely glossed over.  Also, although Isabel Keating was quite good (though not quite on) as Judy, why didn't they use the original recordings of Judy, which are available (they were one of my sources for my show).  I could understand using "voice talent" (although it wasn't disclosed as such until the end credits) for some of the rest of the people, but Judy's original spoken recordings are so much more interesting than Isabel reciting a line here, a line there from them.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 08:25:06 AM
Atlanta Journal (http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/luckovich/2004/022504.html)

(http://img.coxnewsweb.com/C/04/67/83/image_483674.gif)

der Brucer (Oooch!)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 08:25:39 AM
Holy moley on rye, I missed Lent.  I was so busy trying to figure out what to give up for Lent that I missed Lent.  I thought Lent was a Friday thing, I had no idea it was a Wednesday thing.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 08:26:27 AM
BK, Lent is a 40 day thing.  You have plenty of time.  :)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Lulu on February 26, 2004, 08:29:27 AM
MBARNUM: When and if you see this, just wanted to apologize if it seemed as if I were ignoring your query from a couple of days ago.  I just now saw it!  You see, I have been making a concerted effort to greatly reduce the amount of time I spend (waste) on the internet, so I only make it here (and everywhere online) occasionally now.  

How great to find a fellow MSTie here!

In answer to your question, some of my favorite eps are:

Manos: The Hands of Fate   (an unforgettable experience, especially the first time you see it,  little suspecting the horror that awaits.  Undoubtedly my favorite film ever made by an El Paso fertilizer salesman.)

Tormented     (a great episode, and Susan Gordon is in it, to boot!)

Bride of the Monster      (Ed Wood, Jr. and MST3K...a match made in heaven.)

Catalina Caper     (a change of pace for Joel and the 'bots as they riff on a wacky '60s caper comedy starring Tommy Kirk and "Creepy Girl.")

Teenagers from Outer Space     (featuring Derek, the sensitive space alien.)

Crash of the Moons and Manhunt in Space      (the episodes that started our Rocky Jones obsession.  AND old General Hospital episodes, to boot!  Just can't get enough of Nurse Jessie and Phil!)

Children's songs, eh?  Hmmmmmmm...

Chim-Chim Cheree
Lavender Blue (Dilly Dilly)
Mockingbird Hill      (okay, okay...it's not specifically a children's song, but I had fun singing it to my little nephew. :) )

Wow...I just can't think of any more right now.  Hope others have greater success than I.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Lulu on February 26, 2004, 08:33:08 AM
JMK: I just caught the last 40 minutes of the Judy special this morning.  

I, too, found it a bit jarring that they used a vocal stand-in for Judy (I realized it right away, so I don't know that it was a big problem that they didn't credit it 'til the end.  I think the vast majority of people would realize right away that's not her voice).  I assumed that perhaps she was quoted (in print) as saying those things, but they didn't have a voice recording.  If that is not the case, and they actually had a voice recording of Judy saying those things, then their choice to use a stand-in is doubly perplexing.

I thought it was all right, but too worshipful towards her.  The point of view was the same as Judy's apparently was - that her husbands, friends, and family were all supposed to "protect her" from the big bad world, and failed to do so.  This is not only unfair to all those people who came into contact with Judy in her lifetime, but reduces the complex and deeply troubled woman who is interesting precisely because of her personal demons.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 08:37:30 AM
Lulu, they actually credited Isabel up front (no doubt because of Boy from Oz)--it was everyone else they didn't identify until the end credits.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jennifer on February 26, 2004, 08:37:36 AM
If you noticed in the previews last night, George Huff has replaced the semifinalist who was arrested on Monday for drunk driving/speeding (100 m.p.h.). George was not one of the original 32 semifinalists.

I heard about the contestant who had gotten arrested. But I didn't remember his name. So when I saw George I just assumed he was the guy.  Thanks for mentioning this.

I wonder if next week's grouping will be weak. Do you know how they decide the groupings? Is it random? Or do they need a certain amount of men or women in each group?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 08:37:46 AM
Lent is forty days?  Isn't that rather a long time for something?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 08:41:34 AM
BK, Re: 40 days being a long time for something--so what are you saying--Moses should have stopped in the desert to ask for directions??   ::)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: elmore3003 on February 26, 2004, 08:50:57 AM
Isn't the Catholic Church behind the 40 day Lent period?  I guess if it's good enough for Noah . . .
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 08:52:32 AM
Elmore--the Catholic church is behind EVERYTHING--including altar boys (sorry).
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 09:10:28 AM
When Catholics perform A Chorus Line do they change Dance: Ten, Looks: Three to "Fish and loaves"?

Do they sing, "What I Did For Lent"?

Is the opening refrain, "I really need this Lent, please God I need this Lent, I've got to get this Lent"

Do they sing, "Everything was beautiful at the altar, cross yourself, and then confess your sins"

Is the finale, "Christ, singular sensation, Jesus really was the best"

Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jrand73 on February 26, 2004, 09:11:31 AM
Forty days?  Don't some consider that a Golden Wedding Anniversary for gay couples?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 26, 2004, 09:15:35 AM
The only problem I had with the "American Masters" show on Garland was the glossing over of the truth about how Judy became "Dorothy".  It was NOT because Louis B. Mayer had faith in "their" Judy.  It was because Fox's demands for Shirley Temple were more than Mayer was willing to give.  I've read this many times.  One of the things Fox required was the services of Clark Gable, plus another MGM star.  Mayer was only willing to offer the "other" MGM star.  Fox had the number one boxoffice draw and would not yield.

And thank goodness.

I think it's pretty evident that MGM created the Garland it later criticized and cut loose.  The studio was a pusher AND pimp.  It did horrendous things to Garland and then bullied, berated and betrayed her when all the abuse took its toll.

I did not get a sense that Garland felt she was owed anything more than she deserved.  MGM promoted loyalty and family, and then refused to return the gesture.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jrand73 on February 26, 2004, 09:24:10 AM
DR RLP - I hope you have read Scott Schecter's book Judy Garland DAY BY DAY....a sort of diary of her life.  It is fascinating.

I did not realize until I read that book, that Ethel had those girls out on the road EVERY WEEKEND and EVERY VACATION and EVERY SUMMER - they were never home....they were out singing.  

And of course back then it was a six-day week at the studio.   It makes me tired just to read about what she had to do!  And don't forget the radio show after you shoot all day, Miss Garland!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on February 26, 2004, 09:29:35 AM
Haven't had a chance to catch up on yesterday's late posts, so this may have already been mentioned, but was anyone else disappointed in last night's American Masters on Judy?  Maybe I'm over-critical, having spent a couple of years researching Judy for my Judy/Frances musical, but there was SO much fascinating information they either didn't mention or completely glossed over.  Also, although Isabel Keating was quite good (though not quite on) as Judy, why didn't they use the original recordings of Judy, which are available (they were one of my sources for my show).  I could understand using "voice talent" (although it wasn't disclosed as such until the end credits) for some of the rest of the people, but Judy's original spoken recordings are so much more interesting than Isabel reciting a line here, a line there from them.

This is from yesterday's NY Times:

The quality of the tapes was terrible, said Susan Lacy, the executive producer of "American Masters," so Garland's words were read by Isabel Keating, who plays her in the Broadway musical "The Boy From Oz."


I too was a little disappointed. The first-person material from the tapes was the highlight of the program, but I had expected many more excerpts. I thought there should have been more from Judy's perspective, and found much of the material repetitive from  Me and My Shadows.

I liked Isabel Keating. I saw The Boy From Oz when it first opened, and IK sounds more comfortable now than she did then.


Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Panni on February 26, 2004, 09:34:36 AM
DR JOSE I love "Ice Castles."  

Hmmmmmmm....first song that came to my mind was Hey Jimmy Joe John Jim Jack sung by Miss Debbie Reynolds!
Just for you, Jrand53, I'm going one of these days to scan the darling photo of Miss Panni with Miss Debbie Reynolds. Then I'll e-mail it to you and you can post it. Aren't you just too too thrilled at the prospect?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 09:36:56 AM
Well, all I can say is, the tapes I have of Judy are perfectly listenable, and are more riveting than any of the excerpts heard last night.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jay on February 26, 2004, 09:41:34 AM
I was out last night, Dear Readers, and regret that I was unable to join in the vibrant political discussions that took place here.  It feels good knowing that my point of view on the subject of the moment is shared by all the Hainesies and Kimlets who chimed in last night.

I was E&T because I went to a screening of a cute little film called Showboy.  This is a very low budget picture (shot on digital video) about a young man who, after being fired as a writer on Six Feet Under, pursues his dream of becoming a dancer in a Las Vegas show.  Shot in mockumentary style, with most of the dialogue improvised, the film contains a good deal of cleverness and humor.  There are some great scenes with Siegfried and Roy (it obviously was filmed before Roy's run-in with the tiger) and Whoopi Goldberg and there's a great running gag involving a cocker spaniel.

Showboy has been making the rounds of the gay film festivals for the last two years and has finally been picked up for distribution.  It opens in New York at the end of March and elsewhere in April.  I recommend you see it when it comes to your neighborhood art cinema house.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jay on February 26, 2004, 09:44:02 AM
Favorite children's song:  "The Hokey Pokey."
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 26, 2004, 09:44:16 AM
But it was actually not written for children, but the rather adult musical, Let 'Em Ride.  (I don't mean in the x-rated sense.)  My appreciation for this song, expressed a year ago on ratm, sent the Scourge of Ratm, Stephen Newport, into such a lather he started bad-mouthing me on animal rights newsgroups (!).  He  sees malicious torture where it ain't, and misses it in his own behavior.

Noel, that's why it's so much fun to poke him with a stick once in a while, especially with cruel animal jokes.  Anyone know any I can use on ratm?

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There's always something wrong with America, right?  A president gets to look at the country, with all its problems, and prioritize, proclaiming: "This is what I want to fix."  Does anybody believe that what's wrong with America today is gay marriage?  And, a few years ago, the inheritance tax?  His father passed only one piece of major domestic legislation (the disabilities act) and was decried for "the vision thing."  But looking at America today and thinking "We need to ban gay marriages in the constitution" goes beyond myopia.

As I posted last night, I think that this is an empty threat.  It's the idea that this bozo is trying to use it as an election issue that I find horrendous!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 09:46:15 AM
Good morning!

I actually only ended up watching the first 15 minutes or so of the Judy Garland show last night.  -A friend of mine IMed me and asked if I'd like to come over and hang out and go through some new music he had just bought, so...  But...  I did notice that besides identifying Isabelle Keating as the voice of Judy Garland in the opening, that "Actor" was identified as the voice of Burton Lane (I think) the first time the "label" appeared on the screen.  Oh, wait, it was the voice of the radio announcer that was identified as "Actor".  In any case...

BK - You're Catholic version of A Chorus Line has brought back that "sneaky smile" to my face.  You know the type - I want to laugh, but I know that I shouldn't laugh... so I just smile.  Having been raised Catholic, and been educated in Catholic schools...  I feel like I'm back in that day in Religion class where Father Cilinski was giving the boys the "sex talk", and was drawing the parts of the male and female reproductive system on the chalkboard!  Let's just say his artistic skills either majorly intimidated or encouraged his rapt audience.  ;D

Topic of the Day:  Children's Songs
"On Top of Old Smoky"
"On Top of Spaghetti" - I preferred this version.
"John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt" - If you want to drive your bus-driver crazy... "LA-LA-LA, LA-LA-LA-LA"
"The Eensy-Weensy Spider"
"The Itsy-Bitsy Spider" - I think this is another one of those "Mary, Merry, Marry" instances. ;)

From my sixth grade music class:
"Thumbelina", "Inchworm", "Wonderful Copenhagen"

"I Love the Mountains..."  - Mainly for the "Boom-dee-a-dah, Boom-dee-a-dah..." section.  -And it wasn't until years later that I realized this went with "Mountain Greenery" - Hey, it wasn't in our music book!?!?  -I think...???

And I know it's definitely not a children's song, but I was hooked on the Theme from M*A*S*H* "Suicide is Painless".  It was one of the first - if not the first - piece of sheet music I ever bought.  And I even played it - and sang(!) it - for the sixth grade talent show.

OH!!!!  And I also loved the Beach Boys' "Good Vibrations"!!!  It was always fun "guessing" how long the break would be after "Aaaahhhhh"...... "Good, good, good... Good Vibrations..."

 :D


Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jrand73 on February 26, 2004, 09:46:17 AM
DR PANNI - that would give me "This Happy Feeling."
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Panni on February 26, 2004, 09:48:19 AM
When Catholics perform A Chorus Line
If we're bringing the the crucified Rabbi into it (JC, that is) you'll have to call it A Tsurris Line.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 09:49:45 AM
BK, Lent is a 40 day thing.  You have plenty of time.  :)

But those 40 days are not consecutive: LENT is only weekdays, the Sundays don't count!

der Brucer (Helping Jews explain Lent to other Jews -Oy!)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jay on February 26, 2004, 09:51:28 AM
If we're bringing the the crucified Rabbi into it (JC, that is) you'll have to call it A Tsurris Line.

I came this close to groaning on that one, Dear Reader Panni.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 26, 2004, 09:53:10 AM
Holy moley on rye, I missed Lent.  I was so busy trying to figure out what to give up for Lent that I missed Lent.  I thought Lent was a Friday thing, I had no idea it was a Wednesday thing.

You know, that sounds like a line from Linus in a Peanuts special--It's Ash Wednesday, Charlie Brown.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jay on February 26, 2004, 09:53:31 AM
Dear Reader Panni and Dear Reader Charles Pogue:  Will be interested to hear your respective takes on the authenticity of today's L.A. Times Calendar section articles on the life of the Hollywood screenwriter today.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 09:55:25 AM
BK - One more Lent thing... Yes, it does last 40 days, but you have the option to "sacrifice" either every day, or just observe the "Friday Fast".  -I usually do still try to observe a meatless Friday.  And, yes, that's a very lapsed-Catholicism... ;)

As for "American Idol"...

No real shock about LaToya.  But the other two... Well, at least Jon Peter's selection to the top three - even he seemed surprised.

At least LaToya's singing was very good again last night, but the other girl's - sorry, I can't remember her name right now - was worse.  "Roll the credits!"
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: TCB on February 26, 2004, 09:55:43 AM
I think everyone who uses EBAY and/or PayPal has done that at least once.  I know I did - the email makes it sound so urgent...."do this NOW to protect your account...."  And it was a pain in the neck, I had to get a new credit card and change all my accounts....it was mess.  Now I just delete them - or forward them to spoof@paypal.com and ask if it is legitimate before responding.  

OH - I just bought the 4 OMEN movies in one DVD set for about $23!  Whew....I logged on to buy CAMP, and just happened to think of THE OMEN - and there it was!  

I think my favorite is OMEN 3 with Sam Neilll....whew!

I thought there were only three Omen movies.  I know that it was designed to be a set of four films based on the panels found in the first movie, but I must have lost track somewhere along the line, because I think I only saw three of them.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 10:06:39 AM
BK, Re: 40 days being a long time for something--so what are you saying--Moses should have stopped in the desert to ask for directions??   ::)

A. Moses was man and would not be expcted to stop and ask for directions.
B. Moses and his folk meandered thru the desert for 40 YEARS, not 40 DAYS.
C. Jesus, say the Gospels, wandered in the Wilderness for 40 DAYS (the traditional explanation of a 40 day Lent)

(Although Moses did have 2 40 day sojourns on Mt. Sinai were God gave him all the good stuff, Mosaic Legislation, that became Judiac Law. He came back really horny from the second trip up to hill!)

For your furthur penance enlightenment education you could go to the Catholic Encyclopedia (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09152a.htm), whose excruciatingly detatiled, exhaustively footnoted/hyperlinked exposition on "Lent" runs for too many pages.

der Brucer (thinking this site needs a resident Jesuit)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 10:11:13 AM
A. Moses was man and would not be expcted to stop and ask for directions.
B. Moses and his folk meandered thru the desert for 40 YEARS, not 40 DAYS.
C. Jesus, say the Gospels, wandered in the Wilderness for 40 DAYS (the traditional explanation of a 40 day Lent)

Yes, DR DerBrucer, that was my whole point--if fellow Jew BK thinks 40 days is a long time for anything, what about Moses' 40 year detour?  Guess my dry humor needs a little wettening, or perhaps footnotes (C#).
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: elmore3003 on February 26, 2004, 10:13:08 AM
40 days would have been a diamond jubilee for Britney Spears' wedding!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: George on February 26, 2004, 10:18:36 AM
"On Top of Spaghetti" - I preferred this version.

I forgot about this.  I love this song!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: William E. Lurie on February 26, 2004, 10:22:29 AM
I taped the Judy special to watch over the weekend, but I have the tapes Judy made and they are scary.

From today's NY POST:
Previews for "Raisin in the Sun" are only a month away, but our insiders swear thas Sean "Puffy" Combs has yet to read the script.  "He thinks it will be easy to remember and is too busy right now," our production source says.  The producers are so worried about Combs' ability to handle the rigors of Broadway that they're casting his understudy very carefully.

(My comment): This is what they get when they cast for novelty value instead of talent.  Since Audra is known to miss a lot of performances as well, this could become "Raisin Understudy The Sun".

Also in today's POST is an interesting "blind item".  Most of the time I can figure out who these are about, but this one has me stumped.  Does any DR know who they are talking about?

WHICH Broadway hunk lost his chance at being the next James Bond because of rumors he's gay?  The movie's producers found out he was a little too close to his male assistant, and were worried about the secret getting out and weakening the Bond machismo.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: TCB on February 26, 2004, 10:32:00 AM
Forty days?  Don't some consider that a Golden Wedding Anniversary for gay couples?

For Brittney Spears it would be The Impossible Dream.

Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 10:33:01 AM
I thought there were only three Omen movies.  I know that it was designed to be a set of four films based on the panels found in the first movie, but I must have lost track somewhere along the line, because I think I only saw three of them.

Without a TV you'd've missed numero IV.

Omen, The (1976) Omen I –The Antichrist
Damien: Omen II (1978) Omen II – Damien
Final Conflict, The (1981) Omen III – Final Conflict
Omen IV: The Awakening (1991) (TV) (Should be called Daughter of Damien)

Although Damien is done-in at the end of III, so maybe that is where the saga was expected to end.

der Brucer (will there be no end to evil - a C.S. Lewis reference)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: George on February 26, 2004, 10:47:17 AM
I was sent this e-mail today by a co-worker.  I don't know if they're true, but theyr'e pretty darned funny...unless they're true, then it's just sad:

Subject: LIFE IS TOUGH:

Recently, when I went to McDonald's I saw on the menu that you could have an order of 6, 9 or 12 Chicken McNuggets.  I asked for a half dozen nuggets.  "We don't have half dozen nuggets," said the teenager at the counter.  "You don't?" I replied.  "We only have six, nine, or twelve," was the reply.  "So I can't order a half dozen nuggets, but I can order six?"  "That's right." So I shook my head and ordered six McNuggets.
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I was checking out at the local Walmart with just a few items and the lady behind me put her things on the belt close to mine.  I picked up one of those "Dividers" that they keep by the cash register and placed it between our things so they wouldn't get mixed.  After the girl had scanned all of my items, she picked up the "Divider" looking it all over for the bar code so she could scan it.  Not finding the bar code she said to me, "Do you know how much this is?"  I said to her "I've changed my mind, I don't think I'll buy that today."  She said "OK" and I paid her for the things and left.  She had no clue as to what had just happened.
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A lady at work was seen putting a credit card into her floppy drive and pulling it out very quickly.  When I inquired as to what she was doing, she said she was shopping on the Internet and they kept asking for a credit card number, so she was using the ATM "thingy."
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I recently saw a distraught young lady weeping beside her car.  "Do you need some help?" I asked.  She replied, "I knew I should have replaced the battery to this remote door unlocker.  Now I can't get into my car.  Do you think they (pointing to a distant convenience store) would have a battery to fit this?"  "Hmmm, I dunno.  Do you have an alarm too?" I asked.  "No, just this remote thingy," she answered, handing it and the car keys to me.  As I took the key and manually unlocked the door, I replied, "Why don't you drive over there and check about the batteries.  It's a long walk."
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Several years ago, we had an Intern who was none too swift.  One day she was typing and turned to a secretary and said, "I'm almost out of typing paper.  "What do I do?"  "Just use copier machine paper," the secretary told her.  With that, the intern took her last remaining blank piece of paper, put it on the photocopier and proceeded to make five "blank" copies.
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I was in a car dealership a while ago, when a large motor home was towed into the garage.  The front of the vehicle was in dire need of repair and the whole thing generally looked like an extra in Twister.  I asked the manager what had happened. He told me that the driver had set the "cruise control" and then went in the back to make a sandwich.
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My neighbor works in the operations department in the central office of a large bank.  Employees in the field call him when they have problems with their computers.  One night he got a call from a woman in one of the branch banks who had this question,  "I've got smoke coming from the back of my terminal.  Do you guys have a fire downtown?"
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Police in Radnor, Pennsylvania, interrogated a suspect by placing a metal colander on his head and connecting it with wires to a photocopy machine.  The message "He's lying" was placed in the copier, and police pressed the copy button each time they thought the suspect wasn't telling the truth.  Believing the "lie detector" was working, the suspect confessed.
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LIFE IS TOUGH. IT'S TOUGHER IF YOU'RE STUPID.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jrand73 on February 26, 2004, 10:48:07 AM
Yes DRTCB - derBrucer is correct - but according to the DVD info (disc is backordered OF COURSE) - this set is the only way you can get OMEN IV.  I have never seen it either....my favorite is III - but time will tell.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 10:54:04 AM
Re:  James Bond.  The only one I can think of is Hugh Jackman, but I know not of his relationship with any assistant.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jennifer on February 26, 2004, 10:58:00 AM

Also in today's POST is an interesting "blind item".  Most of the time I can figure out who these are about, but this one has me stumped.  Does any DR know who they are talking about?

WHICH Broadway hunk lost his chance at being the next James Bond because of rumors he's gay?  The movie's producers found out he was a little too close to his male assistant, and were worried about the secret getting out and weakening the Bond machismo.

I assumed they meant Hugh Jackman (even though he is married), since I heard he was up to be Bond.

I just checked All That Chat and that is also who they say it is.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 11:00:27 AM
I just checked All That Chat and that is also who they say it is.

Well, I guess we better go back to the drawing board, then.   :P
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jennifer on February 26, 2004, 11:02:49 AM

As for "American Idol"...

No real shock about LaToya.  But the other two... Well, at least Jon Peter's selection to the top three - even he seemed surprised.

At least LaToya's singing was very good again last night, but the other girl's - sorry, I can't remember her name right now - was worse.  "Roll the credits!"

You mean Amy (girl with the pink hair).

If you glance at the idolonfox message boards, it's actually quite easy to predict who will advance.  There is HUGE support for Amy. And nobody there liked Leah (which is why even though the judges loved her, I wasn't sure she'd even be #3).

Jon (pen salesman) got a lot of good publicity in the audition shows. And he is very popular.  I actually like him a lot. He's got this sweet look, and to me he is 100 times more appealing than the football guy from last week.

There are a lot of little girls who vote and they seem to like to vote for good looking guys (whatever they consider that to be).
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: TCB on February 26, 2004, 11:04:29 AM
I assumed they meant Hugh Jackman (even though he is married), since I heard he was up to be Bond.

I just checked All That Chat and that is also who they say it is.

Hmm, would all of you who live in New York, keep an eye out in case Mr. Jackman decides to hire a new assistant.  I would galdly give up my job of 21 years to work as his assistant!!!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 11:05:49 AM
Dear Reader Panni and Dear Reader Charles Pogue:  Will be interested to hear your respective takes on the authenticity of today's L.A. Times Calendar section articles on the life of the Hollywood screenwriter today.

For those of you who do not have LA Times placed on your breakfast tray:

Calendar (http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/cl-wk-cover26feb26,2,1823383.htmlstory?coll=cl-home-top-blurb-right)

(http://images.calendarlive.com/media/photo/2004-02/11561629.jpg)

Quiet! Script in progress
By Robert Masello
Special to The Times

February 26 2004

(excerpts)

The trades are Variety and the Hollywood Reporter, and some super-successful screen and TV writers, I'm told, actually get them delivered right to their homes. The rest of us usually meander down to the nearest Barnes & Noble, where we wait in line to read a copy without having to buy it. Professional courtesy dictates that you try not to leave coffee or cinnamon stains on it.
(http://www.haineshisway.com/community/images/header_02.jpg)

Spotting us is easy. That's us there, in the baseball cap and loose-fit Dockers, grinding our teeth as we read about the latest monster script sale — "Paramount Antes Up $2 Million for Spec Feature by 14-Year-Old Vons Bagger!" Last year alone, the guild registered 50,000 treatments, scripts and ideas — and 182 movies were produced under guild jurisdiction. You figure the odds.
...
And dignity, especially at this awards-crazy time of the year, is never far from a screenwriter's mind. The Writers Guild Awards were last week, and the Oscars are coming up, so there's still a bumper crop of bitterness out there waiting to be harvested. When all of those around you are being nominated and celebrated, you just want to say, "Hold on one darn minute here! You want to know what I could have done if I'd (a) been asked, (b) was self-motivated or (c) had talent?" Speaking for myself, I wasn't up for anything, but that doesn't mean I don't feel robbed. The screenwriter's sense of personal injury is as finely tuned as a bat's radar. [A BK vs DTS and PayPal Scam reference]
...
The one thing we don't like to talk about is our work; it would be unseemly. If you're actually employed, on a paying job, your friends don't want to hear about it. (And for all you know, you're rewriting the script your lunch mate was fired from the week before.) [A CP reference - bolding a BK homage]
...
And now, there's also the big question: Who's going to win what on Sunday night? A decidedly informal poll of the writers I found dining at Jerry's Famous Deli in Westwood voted this way. Best adapted screenplay? "Mystic River." A solid piece of work by a veteran pro, Brian Helgeland. Best original screenplay, the big kahuna? "Lost in Translation," though there was some reluctance to heap any more blessings on Sofia Coppola, a young woman whose life seems too good already. Writers like to rectify, not reinforce, a cosmic imbalance wherever they see it. [A Panni reference?]
...
If you're a screenwriter in L.A., and you play your cards right, you never have to grow up.

Michael Jackson may have moved out of Neverland ... but we're not budging.

der Brucer (full transcript available on request)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jennifer on February 26, 2004, 11:13:48 AM
Quote from: Jennifer on Today at 10:58:00am
Quote
I just checked All That Chat and that is also who they say it is.

 
Well, I guess we better go back to the drawing board, then.   :P

:)

Well the reason I thought this blind item was obvious was because 1) he is really one of the only hunk leading men on broadway 2) i've heard rumors he was gay and 3) i had read before that he was being considered for James Bond.

Me, I wanna know who the former supermodel is who is ditching her husband!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jrand73 on February 26, 2004, 11:14:48 AM
Thanks derBrucer....but what exactly does a screenwriter do?  I thought the actors made up the movie as they went along?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: William E. Lurie on February 26, 2004, 11:15:58 AM
I thought of Jackman too, but in his case I had never heard rumors that he was gay.  However the gay performers I thought of are not big enough names to really be considered for Bond.

George's very funny post above reminds me of a funny story Sid Caesar told in his autobiography.  A few years ago he was making a speech at a University.  When he asked for questions from the students, one of them asked "I know you did a live ninety minute show every week, but how long did it take to perform each episode?".
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jrand73 on February 26, 2004, 11:19:57 AM
DRGeorge - how much IS one of those dividers?  

LOL.....I read your post...and WEL's...and didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 11:24:41 AM
I would galdly give up my job of 21 years to work as his assistant!!!

A reigning Queen stepping down after 21 years - I don't think so!

TCB explaing to DRs at HHW:

(http://www.royal.gov.uk/files/images/edward-VIII_image2.gif)
"But you must believe me when I tell you that I have found it impossible to carry the heavy burden of responsibility and to discharge my duties as HHW Queen as I would wish to do without the help and support of the man I love."


der Brucer (TCB gets all the good parts!)

PS For the Dr who asked about "trimming" from Acrobat files, the above quote was lifted (and then edited) from a Royal.gov.uk .pdf file using the free  Acrobat 4.0 Reader.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jennifer on February 26, 2004, 11:24:59 AM
Yes the divider story is funny. That is the one I find hardest to believe. I mean, how could someone working there not know what a divider is!

The one I can unfortunately easily believe is the McDonald's one.  
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jane on February 26, 2004, 11:31:38 AM
I was out last night, Dear Readers, and regret that I was unable to join in the vibrant political discussions that took place here.  It feels good knowing that my point of view on the subject of the moment is shared by all the Hainesies and Kimlets who chimed in last night.

I didn’t comment, but I agree wholeheartedly!  But then you probably guessed as much. :)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 11:35:17 AM

....but what exactly does a screenwriter do?  I thought the actors made up the movie as they went along?

Nonsense (not the musical!). Screen writers follow a simple six step process:

1. By a computer.
2. Learn to Google
3. Learn to cut, paste, and modify
4. Hire a good editor
5. Submit (leave it alone TCB!)
6. Accept first 6 figure option

der WGA-trainee Brucer
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jane on February 26, 2004, 11:44:24 AM
My interest in THE DETECTIVE was piqued and I was going to rent it.  But disclosure warning was not posted and I now know the ending. :)

Tomovoz how is Magnus today?  I do hope he is home and the surgery was a success.  I’m also looking forward to your new parrot photos.

Panni, have a happy & healthy day today.  

JRand53 I agree with QUE SERA SERA.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: MBarnum on February 26, 2004, 12:00:58 PM
Blah! I am sick as a dog today! I went home sick from work yesterday but today I feel even worse. Blah! I want so much to go to the store and pick up a newspaper but I haven't been able to get very far from the bathroom in the last 12 hours (I will spare you the gory details).

For the life of me I cannot recall any of my favorite children's songs from my childhood. I know I had lots of children's songs on 45s that I listenend too, but I don't recall what they were!

Well, I think I shall lay on the couch and finish watching the Dr. Kildare movie that I started last night.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Tomovoz on February 26, 2004, 12:08:20 PM
Glad you caught up on the posts Jane. I was thinking of your interest when I took the photographs.
Magnus should be home in about 5 hours time I hope - I need to telephone the VET in another 2 hours.

Re photographic film and cameras - not all of us have the $$$$ to invest in new technology. Priorities are made and a digital camera is well down on the list. Out time scale for investment on such things has certainly been somewhat lengthened by a sudden change in $$$$ priorities - Magnus.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jane on February 26, 2004, 12:09:16 PM
MBarnum feel better quickly!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jane on February 26, 2004, 12:14:44 PM
Tomovoz waiting for our pets to return home is tough.  I always try to get out and do something, knowing I won’t be leaving home for awhile during the recuperation period.  I’m sure Magnus is worth managing without a digital camera. :)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jrand73 on February 26, 2004, 12:18:17 PM
 ;D DR Jane.

Holly the zaftig Shar-Pei sends good vibes to Magnus....she understands after her vet visit last month!  8)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 12:21:42 PM
Re:  pets and vet bills.  As long-term memory folk may recall, we spent THOUSANDS (yes, you read that correctly) attempting to keep our collie Ethel alive after she contracted cancer.  Unfortunately we had to put her down a few months ago.  It's the first time in our married life we haven't had at least one dog.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 12:23:34 PM
My interest in THE DETECTIVE was piqued and I was going to rent it.  But disclosure warning was not posted and I now know the ending. :)


[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]DISCLOSURE WARNING!!!!![/move]








Adam ate the apple.
Ark lands safely, animals rescued.
Ben Hur wines by a nose - so does Seabisquit!
Viloletta and Butterfly die!
Scarlet never goes hungry again.
Dorothy gets back to Kansas
Jane did not run into Blanche!
Kristin shot J. R.
Darth Vader is Luke's father.
ET goes home.

and

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]BIG DISCLOSSURE FOLLOWS!!![/move]










ROSEBUD IS THE SLED
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der unrepentant Brucer


Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Michael on February 26, 2004, 12:26:40 PM
Quick note from work. My DSL is down once again!!! I am loosing patience. I think I might go to a T1 line with Bell South. Anyone use this system? Do you like it? Adelphia is having to many problems!!!!!

DR Michael Barnum  From yesterday: I have never seen a Michael Shayne movie or tv show. I am sure they were bottom of double bills. Short programmers. You have to take them for what they were.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Tomovoz on February 26, 2004, 12:27:00 PM
Thanks Jack and Holly.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jane on February 26, 2004, 12:27:44 PM
DerBrucer-VERY FUNNY! ;D
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 12:34:10 PM
Exactly which dog are you sick as, MBarnum?  All the dogs in my neighborhood are healthy as can be.  Although one dog I know is having some plack removed.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jane on February 26, 2004, 12:35:37 PM
JMK a couple of years ago I drove to Springfield for the night to see a cancer specialist for our cat.  Unfortunately she couldn’t be helped.  It is easy to spend thousands when we love them so much.  I know you are still grieving for Ethel.  

Off to do errands.  Talk to you later.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 26, 2004, 12:45:10 PM
Fav kiddie songs -- Never liked most of them when I was a kiddie.  Like the songs from 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T.  Michael Feinstein has an album out called Pure Imagination which has kid songs from movies.  I like that.

Jay, I've only had a chance to read the main article on screenwriters and scan the other stuff.  

Most of it I find isn't about screenwriters at all, but aspiring screenwriters. Two entirely different creatures.  I've always said I'd like to meet a waitress in this town who's really a waitress...I'm tired of everyone saying "but I'm really a singer/actress/writer/director."  You know, until you actually earn your living at one of these professions with some degree of regularity, you're a waitress or whatever it is you do to earn your daily bread.

There is an obscure little film I love, produced by Tony Bill, called HEARTS OF THE WEST.  In it,  Jeff Bridges is an aspiring writer of western novels who through circumstances falls into acting in "B" westerns.  One of the stuntmen is Andy Griffith, who we find out later used to be a Zane Grey type novelist.  Anyway, Bridges constantly goes through the movie calling himself a writer.  "I'm really a writer."  even though he's sold nothing.  Andy Griffith tells him:  "You're not a writer until somebody else calls you a writer."  

I've always lived by that little motto.  Until someone's willing to acknowledge your writing by publishing it, producing it,  paying you for it, reading it, you ain't a writer.  Until then, you're just a waiter (or whatever) aspiring to be a writer.  Some remain waiters (or whatevers) and never become writers.  Most, in fact.

I rarely read the trades.  It's mostly hype and has nothing to do with what I need to do to earn my living.  I did have a subscription once to Weekly Variety...when they gave me a deal on it...but mostly it's press agents and studios telling lies about deals that often don't seem to pan out or never see the light of day.    It's counter-productive for me to read about deals that aren't mine, about books optioned I won't be adapting, movies going into production that have nothing to do with me.

What I do like about being a writer.  I can mostly make my own hours (deadlines and production  drafts the exception), I never have to leave the house, and I can work in my underwear (I save a lot on gas).  

All those pictures of people working on their computers in coffee shops....or discussing too loudly their project with their collaborators in restaurants...?  They're the writer equilvalent of Lana Turner would-bes waiting to be discovered in Schwabs.  They have to show everybody they're a writer, because they don't have any work to show that they're a writer.  They want to be seen to be writing more than actually writing.  

I don't know how anyone can get writing done in a public atmosphere with distractions.  I need to sequester myself away and have absolute quiet so I can hear myself think.  I also act out aloud every scene I write to make sure the dialogue rolls off the tongue right and it builds the way I want it too.  And I'm a chronic pacer.  A coffee shop ain't the place for that sort of energetic writing.

Gurus...I've no use for them.  Rarely have any of them ever actually made their living writing screenplays and they're usually teaching basic guidelines (that you can learn in drama school) to amateurs who mistakenly embrace them as rigid truths and just end up being confused and writing formulaic screenplays. You can't teach talent.  

I also have always been a firm believer of the seat-of-the-pants school.   I learned how to write by being an actor and putting drama on its feet.  I learned how to write by studying great plays and watching hundreds of movies.  I learned how to write by reading everything I could get my hands on, from novels to cereal boxes.  I tell writers to get involved with a theatre group, take an acting class, learn how drama is put on its feet, read, read, read.

Mostly when I read these stories, I get sad thinking about how many of these people will never make it, how many are diluted, how many are just losers.  Also looking at some of the pictures of the people in the article, I notice how old they are.  They all look thirty-five or forty.  That's a bit late to be getting started in this business.  More and more, this is becoming a young person's game.  Careers are getting shorter and shorter.  I've had a twenty-three year career so far.  Writers before me had careers for thirty/thiry-five years.  Writers coming after me will be lucky to have fifteen year careers.  It's gotten harder to make a sustained living at it.  If you're 35 and just starting out, you're facing tremedous odds.

It used to be the dream to write the Great American Novel, now it's the Great American Screenplay.  I think because people think it's easier to write a 120 pages than 350 pages and you get more money.  Neither is necessarily true.  Each discipline is just different, not necessarily harder or easier.  But the movies is perceived as a glamourous business (that's not necessarily true either, particularly for writers...though it beats selling shoes, I suppose) and the siren song it sings is alluring.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 26, 2004, 12:50:07 PM
PS - as a writer, I've never worn a baseball cap.  Particularly a baseball cap worn backwards...only catchers on ball teams should wear their cap backwards...or cameramen.  Who invented that stupid fashion statement?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: TCB on February 26, 2004, 12:54:08 PM



What I do like about being a writer.  I can mostly make my own hours (deadlines and production  drafts the exception), I never have to leave the house, and I can work in my underwear (I save a lot on gas).  




Do you get a lot of gas working in your underwear?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 01:05:38 PM
I have those Judy recordings, too, and she's increasingly hostile, drunk/stoned, and self-pitying. Keating's readings from those tapes are much gentler and less angry, a better tone for the show. And much of the Judy part of the narration didn't come from those tape recordings but from an interview she did with McCalls in 1963-64, and the condition of those tapes, if indeed the interviewer recorded the interview rather than simply taking notes, may be what the producer was referring to.
 
I found it the overall best documentary on the life and (especially) work of Judy Garland ever done. She's been gone over 30 years now, long enough for people not to know her work. This gives us the gist of the legend.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 01:07:31 PM
No, he saves on gas whilst working in his underwear.  It's a well-known fact that people who work in their underwear never have gas.

I'm thus far happy to report that there is no untoward activity in my checking account, so I'm thinking I acted quickly enough to thwart the peckerheads.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 01:13:48 PM
I knew instantly it was Hugh Jackman they were talking about. Not only have I heard the rumors about him and his assistant, but he came on THE VIEW after THE BOY FROM OZ opened, and when one of the women asked him if he was to be the next James Bond, he looked right in the camera and in his BEST Peter Allen voice cooed, "I'm Bond, James Bond." I thought there and then that he had blown his chance to be Bond.

Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson take James Bond VERY seriously.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 01:18:58 PM
It is SNOWING again!

It snowed about 5 hours this morning, then stopped for awhile. Now, it's coming down once again. Amazing.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: William E. Lurie on February 26, 2004, 01:26:18 PM
With a name like Barbara Broccoli I would think she would have to take things seriously.  I wonder if she has ever been stalked?  At the end of the day does she veg out?  Is her favorite song "It Ain't That Easy Being Green"?  When she gets depressed does she hit the sauce?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: TCB on February 26, 2004, 01:27:08 PM
No, he saves on gas whilst working in his underwear.  It's a well-known fact that people who work in their underwear never have gas.

I'm thus far happy to report that there is no untoward activity in my checking account, so I'm thinking I acted quickly enough to thwart the peckerheads.

Ohhhh, now I understand!  I will have to start wearing underwear to work, so that I can save money on Gas-X.

I think you were right on top of everything yesterday, BK.  Those scammers have probably never had anyone react as quickly as you did.  They probably figured that they had several hours to go before you got wise to them.                                    
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Tomovoz on February 26, 2004, 01:28:24 PM
Barbara's celery comes from the Bond films WEL.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 01:32:27 PM
Speaking of gas and underwear, don't forget to order your Kritzer Time books.  I've just set my first signing, to be held April 17th at my usual first signing venue, Bookfellows in Glendale.  I'll have more info as we get closer to the date.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 01:41:32 PM
Re:  the Broccoli family (James Bond).   The vegetable is actually named after them, not the other way around.  One of their ancestors grafted something onto something else to create "broccoli" as we know it.  There was a very interesting interview with Cubby Broccoli years ago where he went into detail about this (could have been Entertainment Tonight, but I can't fully recall).

Re:  Judy tapes.  The most commonly available ones ("Judy Speaks") on CD are just a sampling of what's available.  I'll have to check my files, but I'm fairly certain just about everything "voiced" by Isabel last night was from actual recordings of Judy.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 26, 2004, 01:46:35 PM
What I do like about being a writer.  I can mostly make my own hours (deadlines and production  drafts the exception), I never have to leave the house, and I can work in my underwear (I save a lot on gas).  


Found a way of bottling "gas", have you?

:D
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 26, 2004, 01:49:19 PM
(The only trouble with responding/reacting to something after you read it is that someone else has already played it out and you're just left sitting there, like so much fish.).
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: S. Woody White on February 26, 2004, 01:50:43 PM
Also in today's POST is an interesting "blind item".  Most of the time I can figure out who these are about, but this one has me stumped.  Does any DR know who they are talking about?

WHICH Broadway hunk lost his chance at being the next James Bond because of rumors he's gay?  The movie's producers found out he was a little too close to his male assistant, and were worried about the secret getting out and weakening the Bond machismo.
Nathan Lane as James Bond?

 ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jay on February 26, 2004, 01:51:43 PM
Lots of "feel better" vibes to Dear Reader MBarnum and Dear Dog Magnus!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 02:04:26 PM
Here's what an AMERICAN IDOL person-in-the-know told me about the wild card stuff (his words, not mine):


"As I understand it, the #3 performers get an automatic entrance and the other four are chosen by the judges. There will be another wild card show with performers who didn't make the original show. Thus, the final group with have the 8 finalists, the 2 from the finalist wild card show and 2 from the real wild card show."
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: S. Woody White on February 26, 2004, 02:05:23 PM
Blah! I am sick as a dog today!
You'll feel better after you eat some grass.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 26, 2004, 02:10:37 PM
You'll feel better after you eat some grass.

Isn't it rather harsh if it isn't diluted with something, like brownie batter, and baked?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jennifer on February 26, 2004, 02:15:37 PM
Here's what an AMERICAN IDOL person-in-the-know told me about the wild card stuff (his words, not mine):


"As I understand it, the #3 performers get an automatic entrance and the other four are chosen by the judges. There will be another wild card show with performers who didn't make the original show. Thus, the final group with have the 8 finalists, the 2 from the finalist wild card show and 2 from the real wild card show."

Where did your person in the know get this information.

I'm not saying it's not possible. But it doesn't sound right.

I think the #3s will make it through (although I didn't know that was a guarantee).

But they've been saying 4 people make the final 12 (from the Wild Card show).

If there were 2 Wild Card shows then how would it work?  Last year each judge got to choose someone, and the audience chose someone. If it was 2 and 2 then the audience would have to choose them all (which I don't think the judges would do).
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Tomovoz on February 26, 2004, 02:25:57 PM
Thanks Jay and all well wishes. Just spoke to the VET and all went well - should have Magnus home in a few hours. Now if MBarnum would like to contact our VET he too may get well quickly.  Good vibes Michael.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: MBarnum on February 26, 2004, 02:29:44 PM
Thanks for the get well wishes Jane and Jay!

Why do they say "Sick as a dog" anyhow? I guess it doesn't make any sense, really.

Tomovoz, good vibes to Magnus from Freddy the cat and myself!

THE CREW...that was it Der Brucer...you are amazing in your abilities to identify the most obscure and short lived of TV programs! Ha ha! It was a very funny show, by the way!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 02:31:51 PM
Don't know where he got this information, Jennifer. That's why I said in my post that these were his words, not mine. Clearly the intent seems to be to give the judges SOME power (selecting some of the people for the two different wild card shows) but leaving final selection to the audience which to me seems totally fair. It's the audience, after all, who votes for the eventual winner and then BUYS the CDs the winner and runner-up make.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 02:33:16 PM
Oh, I meant to wish you well, DR MBarnum, and hope you get better quickly. It's no fun to be sick.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jennifer on February 26, 2004, 02:47:25 PM
Don't know where he got this information, Jennifer. That's why I said in my post that these were his words, not mine. Clearly the intent seems to be to give the judges SOME power (selecting some of the people for the two different wild card shows) but leaving final selection to the audience which to me seems totally fair. It's the audience, after all, who votes for the eventual winner and then BUYS the CDs the winner and runner-up make.

Sorry, I thought maybe you knew where he got the info.

I'm not sure how I would feel about the judges not choosing any of the wild cards (to go to the top 12).  IMO, they usually choose the best singers.

In theory, I do like the idea of the audience voting.  However, I don't think they always choose the best performers.  Plus there are so many people voting hundreds of times, that anyone could really get the most votes.  I sort of wish that people could only vote a limited amount of times.

Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 02:53:48 PM
Well, the judges have had their say-so from the get-go. EVeryone we're seeing was an ad-hoc choice of at least two of the three judges. Also, if you've noticed, most of their choices have gotten in (all their first chocies have), and in the case of Camille, undeservedly.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 03:00:00 PM
Has anyone listed the marvelous Joe Raposo Sesame Street songs?  Being Green, Sing, Rubber Duckie - all great.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Panni on February 26, 2004, 03:10:46 PM
i was going to write a nice long post, but I need to find a file urgently (don't ask!) - but I shall be back. FS Pogue said everything I would have said about the screen writing article - only he said it better. I also started my career as an actress (he wasn't an actress, I know) which was/is invaluable to me as a writer. I also act/speak my dialogue as I write. And I've never worn a baseball cap backwards. More later.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: S. Woody White on February 26, 2004, 03:10:47 PM
Some of us, BK, were supposed to be too old to listen to kid's songs when Raposo was writing his best stuff.   :-[

But I do wish he could have been with us longer, much longer.  He had a rare talent.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: George on February 26, 2004, 03:38:28 PM
Has anyone listed the marvelous Joe Raposo Sesame Street songs?  Being Green, Sing, Rubber Duckie - all great.

Damn!  I always forget so many good songs.

Anyway, "Being Green" is one of my sister's favorite songs.  She's looked for a long time to get an original (meaning Jim Henson) recording of the song.  She's heard a couple different versions with Jim Henson, but they're bigger arrangements/orchestrations than what she remembers hearing and wants.

Also, I have a copy (from a songbook) of the music to "Rubber Duckie" and have wanted to sing it in public.  Someday I'm just going to have to on my own (a Les Miz reference).
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Danise on February 26, 2004, 03:52:20 PM
Good evening all.

JMK thank you very much for the offer of helping me around SLC.  I will take you up on the offer.  I called AAA and requested a map of the city and the tour book.  Once I figure out where I’m going to be, I will have many questions and yes, I would like to see the place named after your father, if it is in walking distance from where I’ll be.

Good vibes to you, Mbarnum.  I hope you feel much, much better by this time tomorrow!

Kiddie songs, I have many, many favorites but have a hard time remembering names.  “While sitting in the Barber chair”, “The Battle Hymn of the Children”, “Dunderbeck”, “Grandfathers Clock”, to name but a few.  

Don’t feel bad about doing something dumb, Bruce, we all do it.  If I paid for a trip to SLS and can’t get the tickets for the show (which STILL shows no signs of a ticket sales no matter where I look on the net), I’m going to be kicking myself from here to Utah and back.  
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 04:38:51 PM
Is anyone else getting error messages when trying to access the site or post?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 26, 2004, 04:39:16 PM
As I recall, Clay Aiken was chosen by the AUDIENCE in the Wild Card round....and Simon cluck-clucked about how unsuitable Clay was as an "American Idol" at every turn.

Doesn't seem like the judges knew what they were about, does it!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jay on February 26, 2004, 04:46:31 PM
Is anyone else getting error messages when trying to access the site or post?

Yes.  I kept getting this message:

Warning: mysql_connect(): Too many connections in /home/haineshisway/community/index.php on line 58
Too many connections


I'm able to get to the site now, obviously, but it seems to be moving a bit slowly.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Danise on February 26, 2004, 04:49:17 PM
Me too!  Same message.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 04:52:14 PM
Good evening!

Another good class tonight, and we got through all but one of the duets too!  I'm only with the class for three more sessions... It will be sad to leave them.

"American Idol" - As for the judges influencing the public.... Well, that's what they are there for in a way.  And as was proven last night, the public did not go with the judges opinions.  Also, the final rundown of who the judges think should go on to the next round is not revealed until the beginning of the "announcement" show.  So...  What was I saying?...

I've actually heard the same thing about the upcoming wild card show.  It's the twist for this season.  -Besides having a very "canned" sounding band.  Oh, and strangely enough, I thought I heard about the Wild Card selections on some promo for this season.  ???

In any case...

I think it would be neat if the judges picked two of the Wild Card contestants.  It would really not be that different from them picking the initial 112 (or whatever that figure was) or the 32.  *And after some of the people they let slip through, this could be a way for them to make up for some of their questionable decisions.  It would also add an interesting dynamic to the Final 12.  Will the public automatically not like the two the judges picked?  And will it cause the other contestants to step up their performances since they would have an idea who the favorites are?

Since this is my first time watching the prelims, how were the Wild Cards chosen in the past two seasons?  And how many rounds of prelims did they do?

Matt H - I WANT SNOW!!!   >:(  Yes, I do.  I know snow does cause problems of many sorts, but I really do like one major snowfall each winter, and, imho, we have yet to have it in Richmond this winter.

"Sesame Street" - I love those songs! Love, Love, Love!  -That's three Love's, ya' know.  -I guess that could be a Godspell reference too.

And, although it was probably "borrowed" from someone else, I once played for a great singer who included "Rubber Duckie" in her cabaret act.  Just slow the tempo down a bit, add a bit of a swing, and jazz up some of those chords...  And let the innuendo fly!  :o  It always stopped the show!

DR Danise - When exactly is the Michael Ball concert supposed to be?  Maybe some of us could keep an eye out for ticket announcements for you.  *Hopefully, it won't be like the current brou-ha-ha with the Josh Groban tour - so many of the tickets have been sold in advance of the public sale (to fan clubs, internet clubs, special groups, etc.) - people line up at the box office and the "Sold Out" sign goes up immediately - which is basically what happened here in Richmond.  -Oh, sorry to be "negative" - but I'm sure you're on top of the box office situation.

DR MBarnum - Feel better!  Shall I send some chicken soup?  Or some cookies?  ;)

DR Tomovoz - A virtual dog bone/treat for Magnus.   :D
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 04:56:54 PM
I was getting the error message too... All seems better now.  Ah, the joys of technology! ;)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: George on February 26, 2004, 04:57:25 PM
Is anyone else getting error messages when trying to access the site or post?

Not me...no problems.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 05:00:13 PM

THE CREW...that was it Der Brucer...you are amazing in your abilities to identify the most obscure and short lived of TV programs! Ha ha! It was a very funny show, by the way!

Not "amazing", just quick with a search engine.
A little sependippity helps:

you posted:

Ok, Der Brucer here is another show for you to identify. The show was on FOX back in the 90s. It mostly took place on an airplance with 4 flight attendents as the main characters, 2 women (one black one white) and two men (one gay and one straight).

So, I went to Yahoo and typed in "GAY FLIGHT ATTENDENT FOX TV".

The very first hit I got was for:

GLBT Television Characters (http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~wyatt/tv-char1990s.html) web site, which instantly identified THE CREW.

Before making this post, I went back and attempted to retrace my steps - and dutifully enetered GAY FLIGHT ATTENDANT FOX TV - the link was now missing, but the ninth entry down was for TV Tome (http://www.tvtome.com/Crew/) which also listed the show.

In case you haven't caught the humor - you ,the professional writer, mispelled "attendant", me, the eternal critic missed the error, and the Canadian GLBT site also has the same misspelling)!

It must be a Gay Gene thing.

der luckey Brucer



Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Danise on February 26, 2004, 05:06:54 PM
Thanks, Jose.  The concerts should be on May 14th and 15th.  I want the best tickets I can get to both since I'm not coming home until Sunday.  

What scares me is I can't use the computer at work to check for them going on sale because I could get in MAJOR trouble for doing so.  Up to and including being fired.  I don't want to chance that!  

I've been getting up early every morning to check before I go to work and then again almost as soon as I step in the door at night.  

I've got others looking for me on a couple other boards as well but I greatly thank anyone who wouldn't mind checking as well.  What one misses, another may catch.  

Bought my Le Miz tickets today.  I'll get to see that the weekend after I come home from Utah.  May is going to be a busy month for me!

Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 05:14:49 PM
OK, here's a short-lived tv trivia question for you (and I do not remember the answer):

What was the name of the half-season or less comedy from the "Get Smart!" people about the star of a tv western?  All I can remember is his car had horns (as in antlers) on the hood.  It was definitely on NBC and was probably in the 66-67 or 67-68 season.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 05:20:11 PM
Danise:  The error messages kept me from responding to you earlier.  Downtown SLC is quite easy to get around, though the first thing you will notice is how wide the streets are--Brigham Young planned them that way to allow for plenty of room for horse-drawn carts to be able to do U-turns.

All the streets in SLC are numbered from Temple Square.  Therefore all you need to do is look at street signs to see where you are from "ground zero."  In other words, 300 E. 100 So. would be 3 blocks east of the Temple and 1 block south.  Even the streets with actual names have the numbers underneath.

You will obviously want to do Temple Square (prepare to be majorly proselytyzed--it's unavoidable) and the Beehive House (Brigham's first home).  The state Capitol is a fairly easy jaunt up State Street from downtown.

Oh, and pay attention to the statue of Brigham Young downtown--notice how his back is to the Temple and his hand is reaching out to the bank (or at least it was a bank when I was growing up).

The Kauffman Military Museum is at Ft. Douglas, which is up in the foothills by the University of Utah.  It is not within easy walking distance (probably 2 miles from downtown), but there are numerous buses, and I think even lightrail now which could take you right there.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 05:22:16 PM
I think the sitcom about the tv star had Clu Gulager in it.  WEHT to Clu?  Does anybody have a Clu?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 05:24:49 PM
It's been happening sporadically for the last three hours.  I'm going to send an e-mail to the tech support people who handle us, and hopefully I'll find out what's going on.  It doesn't seem to last more than a few seconds, so it may just be some glitch they're experiencing.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: MBarnum on February 26, 2004, 05:28:42 PM


In case you haven't caught the humor - you ,the professional writer, mispelled "attendant", me, the eternal critic missed the error, and the Canadian GLBT site also has the same misspelling)!

It must be a Gay Gene thing.


Ha, ha! Actually with me it is just the lazy forgot to reread my post before hitting "post" thing! I am sure my spelling at times on this board is atrocious, particularly when I am posting from work and I am trying to be sneaky and quick so as not to be seen on the internet  by any co-workers! Snicker!

Is there a spell check on this here sight?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Tomovoz on February 26, 2004, 05:28:57 PM
Thanks Jose from Magnus. He will settle for the virtual until you bring the real thing. He seems fine (we have removed the collar/bucket from his head). Fosca is also very pleased to have her little brother (by three weeks) home.
Thanks also to MBarnum and Freddy.
I have not really explained that Freddy and Miss Vickie are not dogs. As far as I know, Magnus has not met a cat.

Error message appears to be the same one I had a few days back.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: MBarnum on February 26, 2004, 05:34:15 PM
thanks Jose, MattH, and Danise...I am feeling a bit better in that I have my appetite back and in fact am quite hungry right now. So shortly I shall fix me some soup and watch some TV.

And a big ole thanks to Tomovoz who has swiftly carried me from India to Iceland! I am loving this tape of Icelandic pop songs that just arrived in the mail today! They are all quite catchy!! You must really have a most unusual CD collection Tom! Thank you, thank you!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 05:48:17 PM

Is there a spell check on this here sight?

Nope - I often cut to Word, spell check, and paste back
(also keeps a copy of the post for when it gets lost in cyberspace during the posting process).
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Tomovoz on February 26, 2004, 05:50:39 PM
I hope you don't become an ice maiden as a result MBarnum.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 05:53:25 PM
Bought my Le Miz tickets today.  I'll get to see that the weekend after I come home from Utah.  


Remember to potty first! The first Act is a bladder buster!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 05:53:59 PM
Whatever the problem was it's been solved.  I spoke to tech support, and they found the glitch and fixed it right away.  Now, at least, I know where and who to call when there are problems since Mr. Mark Bakalor isn't hosting us anymore.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Michael on February 26, 2004, 06:14:15 PM
My children songs were ones from My Fair Lady, Mary Poppins, Sound of Music (film) and Fiddler on the Roof. Later HAIR. where I used to go around singing the song Sodomy. I course did not know what the words meant. I just liked the way they sounded. I stopped when my mother warned me not to sing the song anymore because they were not nice words for children to use.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 26, 2004, 06:15:40 PM
Am I breaking the news on this forum?

Rosie O'Donnell came to San Francisco today and married another woman!

Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 06:20:30 PM
Now wait just a darned minute - are you inferring that Rosie O'Donnell is a...  is a...
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Michael on February 26, 2004, 06:20:48 PM
The lyrics to Sodomy from HAIR

Sodomy, fellatio, cunnilingus, pederasty
Father, why do these words sound so nasty?
Masturbation can be fine
Join the holy orgy Kama Sutra
Everyone

No wonder an young boy shouldn't sing that!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Michael on February 26, 2004, 06:21:59 PM
I wonder if  MTI has Hair jr, like they have Annie Jr?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 06:36:57 PM
Well, since HAIR is "owned" by Tams-Witmark...

-And I just wish that Tams would start sending out FULL SCRIPTS out with some of their older properties instead of those stupid prompt books.  Yes, they save paper... BUT, you end up with a lot of people who don't get to read the full script... or know exactly where there scenes come in the play.

Of course, the prompt boooks are fun sometimes too... At least when they put a prompt book out for someone like "Man 1", "Guard 3", or "Nurse 2"... A nice cover... A nice cover page... And then ONE line!  -But, again, where in the heck in the play does my line come?

And isn't it:

"Masturbation can be fun" - ??
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DERBRUCER on February 26, 2004, 06:38:58 PM
What was the name of the half-season or less comedy from the "Get Smart!" people about the star of a tv western?  All I can remember is his car had horns (as in antlers) on the hood.  It was definitely on NBC and was probably in the 66-67 or 67-68 season.

I can't find diddly. SWW thinks it was THE HERO with Richard Mulligan.

der Brucer

(And with that I'll take the guesser to the Diner for Diner.)
(Or is it "to the Dinner for Dinner" - we'll let BK ponder)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 06:47:50 PM
I can't find diddly. SWW thinks it was THE HERO with Richard Mulligan.

der Brucer

(And with that I'll take the guesser to the Diner for Diner.)
(Or is it "to the Dinner for Dinner" - we'll let BK ponder)

I think that may be it, by gum and by golly.  I'll look it up on IMDb later and confirm.  You guys know your trivia!!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 26, 2004, 06:48:23 PM
I think DR Michael Shayne stole my thunder, BK....

But, yes, the word is "Out" that Rosie is Lebanese!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JMK on February 26, 2004, 06:52:19 PM
Couldn't stand to wait, did a quick Google and it was, indeed, The Hero.  There's actually a site devoted to it, which I guess should not surprise me:

http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/2950/SitCom/Hero.htm
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 06:52:33 PM
OH, I thought Rosie O'Donnell was a...

FIG!

;)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jane on February 26, 2004, 06:53:02 PM
CharlesPogue I remember HEARTS OF THE WEST .  ;D I would like to see it again.

Tomovoz I’m very happy Magnus & Fosca are back together again.   :)

MBarnum hope you still feel fine after eating. Continue to feel better.

Bye for tonight.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 26, 2004, 06:57:06 PM
 

THE HERO

NBC/Talent Associates / 16x30m-e / 1966

Sitcom. A star of a popular TV western is a coward when it comes to horses.

with:- RICHARD MULLIGAN / MARIETTE HARTLEY
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Michael on February 26, 2004, 06:58:02 PM


-
"Masturbation can be fun" - ??

That too.

I copied it from a website.  But of course you are correct.

Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: MBarnum on February 26, 2004, 07:10:38 PM
Thanks Jane, eating did me a world of good! Had chicken noodle soup and a peanut butter and butter sandwich. Tummy is full, but there is a familiar grumbling inside now! Oh, well!

Tomovoz, I am now listening to the Sandie Smith CD. Wow, it is wonderful (as I expected it would be). She sometimes reminds me just a tad of Lulu (the singer, not the DR). Thank you so much for the wonderful CDs, they really made my day!

Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Tomovoz on February 26, 2004, 07:17:57 PM
Sure you are listening MBarnum SHAW. OK you are listening but not reading.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 26, 2004, 07:18:02 PM
Here is a link to an MSNBC.com story about Rosie's nuptials with Kelli Carpenter and the "reason" she said they decided to marry.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4381717/
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Noel on February 26, 2004, 07:19:32 PM
You think that's bad?  In Eagle Rock there's a five-year-old girl who loudly sings the following salacious smut by her uncle:

Know what we'd really rather sing about?  The wedding night.
We have some pointers that could help you out on your wedding night.
Listen to our hot advice
It takes a whole lot of naughty to be wholly nice
Rub his chest with a piece of ice on your wedding night.

Hold his head and kiss him deep on the wedding night.
Keep the candles burning; you won't get to sleep on the wedding night.
Play the game of "Twister" in the nude
And if he lets you beat him, you'd
Better show him some gratitude on the wedding night.

You're energetic, hot and young
So write your name on his chest with your tongue
You've been a cowgirl, and now you're a bride
So mount your steed and go for a ride

I know you'll be like acrobats on your wedding night
And find out the true meaning of Dewing Katz on your wedding night
If your hotel has all the amenities
Get him up on the flying trapeze
As he swings by, lick his knees on your wedding night

The sexy lace that's under your gown is sure to excite
He'll take one look and head downtown on your wedding night
Put on Gladys Knight and the Pips
Shake your booty; work your hips
Walk up his thigh with your fingertips on the wedding night.

Run your fingers through his hair.
He doesn't have much on top!
--  No, I meant down there.
You're his wife now, and since the wife rules
Never let go of the family jewels

As you please him, whatever you do on your wedding night.
Make sure you don't forget about you on your wedding night.
Whatever you choose as your plan of attack
Make sure you end up on your back
Spill some honey on you and let him snack on your wedding night
On the wedding night...On the wedding night...On the wedding night...wedding night
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: MBarnum on February 26, 2004, 07:37:22 PM
LOL! Woops Tomovoz! I meant Sandie Shaw...don't know where Smith came from! I will blame it on my stomach flu which has travelled to my brain! LOL!

Whatever her name is her CD is great!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 07:41:04 PM
Good evening!

Ooohh... I just got the cast list for Children of Eden at Ford's Theatre.  It's Hunk-A-Licious!  :P

Guess I better get a second set of batteries for my digital camera!  LOL!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 08:12:58 PM
Well, we are at 8 inches of snow and counting. The weather forecaster said it may get to 20 inches of snow in some parts of the county. Needless to say, a record.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 08:16:03 PM
Thanks Jane, eating did me a world of good! Had chicken noodle soup and a peanut butter and butter sandwich.



OMG! I thought I was the ONLY person in the world who ate peanut butter and butter sandwiches!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jennifer on February 26, 2004, 08:29:30 PM

DR Jose wrote:
Quote
I think it would be neat if the judges picked two of the Wild Card contestants.  It would really not be that different from them picking the initial 112 (or whatever that figure was) or the 32.  *And after some of the people they let slip through, this could be a way for them to make up for some of their questionable decisions.  It would also add an interesting dynamic to the Final 12.  Will the public automatically not like the two the judges picked?  And will it cause the other contestants to step up their performances since they would have an idea who the favorites are?

Since this is my first time watching the prelims, how were the Wild Cards chosen in the past two seasons?  And how many rounds of prelims did they do?

Last time I believe 4 people advanced from the Wild Card show. The judges each picked one, and the audience chose one.

As for how the Wild cards were chosen, last time they took the 4 third placed people (i'm pretty sure about this, but not positive). Then they took a few others from the 32 who they (the judges) really liked. Then they took a few others (like the blonde carmen) who either made it to hollywood, or who just gave great original auditions (i think they chose one or two this way).
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 08:37:28 PM
Anyone else having any luck trying to track down some reviews for the Fiddler on the Roof revival?

And, Matt H - Now that's snow!  Seriously, I hope that everyone stays warm, that your power stays on, and that no ones tries to see just how deep the snow has to get before there car/truck won't go any further.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Panni on February 26, 2004, 08:41:32 PM
Good evening. I'm exhausted - wrote (re-wrote) for 5 or 6 hours straight, Started around 9 and next time I looked up it was almost 3. Then did a bunch of errands and now I'm zonked.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Panni on February 26, 2004, 08:43:24 PM
Anyone else having any luck trying to track down some reviews for the Fiddler on the Roof revival?
There was one in the LA Times last week which was pretty silly. The main premise was that it was not Jewish enough. Go figure.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 08:49:51 PM
Oh... and I just realized that the NYTimes website has it's own Theater page now instead of subheading it under Arts.

-Oh, I did see Peter Filichia's review on Broadway.com... As well as the one on Theatremania.com.

I'm surprised the AP didn't jump the gun as they usually do.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: MBarnum on February 26, 2004, 09:06:13 PM
OMG! I thought I was the ONLY person in the world who ate peanut butter and butter sandwiches!

Nope MattH, you are not alone! LOL! An old favorite of mine along with peanut butter and mayo! Yum!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Matt H. on February 26, 2004, 09:15:28 PM
I toast the bread with the peanut butter on one slice and the butter on the other to make them ooze together. Simply delicious. And I'm sure my heart and arteries are cursing me with each bite.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 26, 2004, 09:17:06 PM
My children songs were ones from My Fair Lady, Mary Poppins, Sound of Music (film) and Fiddler on the Roof. Later HAIR. where I used to go around singing the song Sodomy. I course did not know what the words meant. I just liked the way they sounded. I stopped when my mother warned me not to sing the song anymore because they were not nice words for children to use.

Reminds me of when I was around eight and discovered the word "jerkoff" and incessently used it as a noun, though I had no idea what it meant.  The real trouble came when I said to my mother after school one day, "Sister Franchetta was a real jerkoff today."
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jed on February 26, 2004, 09:21:10 PM
OMG! I thought I was the ONLY person in the world who ate peanut butter and butter sandwiches!

Not at all!  There's always a bit of butter on my peanut butter sandwiches!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jed on February 26, 2004, 09:22:07 PM
An old favorite of mine along with peanut butter and mayo! Yum!

Ok, now you've just gone too far! :D
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 09:24:57 PM
I, too, like peanut butter and butter.  Well, weather permitting it looks like we're finally doing the Bullshit! shoot on Saturday.  Figured out the wardrobe today, got my call sheet and hopefully it will be fun.  The one thing we know is that it will be a LONG day.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 26, 2004, 09:26:31 PM
OMG! I thought I was the ONLY person in the world who ate peanut butter and butter sandwiches!

I still enjoy a peanut butter and cream cheese sandwich every once in a while.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 09:32:04 PM
Denizens of the world, unite.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 09:40:08 PM
I'm a peanut butter and honey man, myself.  And sometimes raisins.  And sometimes extra peanuts too!

Oh, and found the AP review... Just waiting for the NYTimes to post...
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 09:44:31 PM
Hey, I guess the boxing match ended early.. Showtime is showing Bullshit! right now... one debunking spiritualists and mediums...  They're trying to contact the spirit of Fred Mertz right now! ;)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: TCB on February 26, 2004, 09:51:25 PM
Reminds me of when I was around eight and discovered the word "jerkoff" and incessently used it as a noun, though I had no idea what it meant.  The real trouble came when I said to my mother after school one day, "Sister Franchetta was a real jerkoff today."

Now, that is silly, Dan.  Every good Catholic boy knows that Father Riley is the jerkoff!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jed on February 26, 2004, 09:59:32 PM
I know you're far from alone, Jose, but I've never enjoyed the pb & honey thing.  Anytime they served that at school, I made damn sure to bring my own lunch that day. :)  I do, however, occasionally enjoy a peanut butter and pickle sandwich.  And I'm not even pregnant!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Dan (the Man) on February 26, 2004, 10:07:40 PM
Now, that is silly, Dan.  Every good Catholic boy knows that Father Riley is the jerkoff!

Not where I went to school.  I was an altar boy for five years.  The only time a priest touched me was to smack the back of my head for fooling around during Mass.  Believe me, the nuns at my school were far more abusive, especially towards boys.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Tomovoz on February 26, 2004, 10:10:49 PM
Nuts to Peanut butter. Vegemite forever.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 10:15:00 PM
Good evening!

Well, finally dug the Fiddler review out of the NYTimes web-site... Hmm...  Here's the first paragraph...

"The most animated presence in the prim, pretty new production of "Fiddler on the Roof," which opened last night at the Minskoff Theater, may well be its title character. No, not the fiddler. The roof."

Hmm...

And all the other reviews I've come across seem to be in agreement.  No real pans, but no real raves either.

OH! DR Jed - Thanks for reminding me that I bought pickles last week - and the jar is still sitting unopened in my fridge!  I need to rectify that situation... soon!... soon?

;)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Panni on February 26, 2004, 10:20:21 PM
Not exactly a posting frenzy so far this evening. And I'm afaid I'm going to be part of the non-frenzy by going to bed soon. I've slept very little all week, but tonight's the night, Josephine. I am going to sleep. I am going to close my eyes and go to dreamland and stay there until morning. That's the plan, folks. So good-night, all.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: S. Woody White on February 26, 2004, 10:52:52 PM
Oh, and pay attention to the statue of Brigham Young downtown--notice how his back is to the Temple and his hand is reaching out to the bank (or at least it was a bank when I was growing up).
A reminder to tithe?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: George on February 26, 2004, 10:55:41 PM
Reminds me of when I was around eight and discovered the word "jerkoff" and incessently used it as a noun, though I had no idea what it meant.  The real trouble came when I said to my mother after school one day, "Sister Franchetta was a real jerkoff today."

My friend Margo has three children...17, 7 and 5 (all girls--the two younger were adopted from China).  Anyway, when the middle kid was about 4, they were at home and she said, "Mom, don't f**k with my mind!" :o Margo was taken aback, and trying not to laugh, had to explain to her daughter that that was not a word that she should use...at least, not in public. ::)
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: DearReaderLaura on February 26, 2004, 10:58:22 PM
Good evening, fellow dear readers.

I spent a most exciting day on a vacant lot watching a construction crew clear debris.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Tomovoz on February 26, 2004, 10:58:55 PM
For Jane:
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: S. Woody White on February 26, 2004, 11:01:38 PM
I wonder if  MTI has Hair jr, like they have Annie Jr?
Hair, Jr.  a.k.a.  Flat-top?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Tomovoz on February 26, 2004, 11:02:51 PM
DR Laura: I assure you some of us would find that interesting and exciting!
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: Jed on February 26, 2004, 11:04:22 PM
DR Laura, you sure do know how to party!!! :D
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: bk on February 26, 2004, 11:05:38 PM
I see ten count them ten GUESTS.  I see dead people.  When I see ten GUESTS I say "I know you're out there, I can hear you breathing."  When I see dead people, I say, "I know you're out there, I can't hear you breathing.
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: S. Woody White on February 26, 2004, 11:08:58 PM
OMG! I thought I was the ONLY person in the world who ate peanut butter and butter sandwiches!
I used to have a love for peanut butter, butter, and honey sandwiches.  Does that count, or is that too complicated?
Title: Re:MY USUAL SELF
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 11:09:15 PM
WOW!

Just catching the news item on TV about the women who had a seizure - possible heart attack - while watching "The Passion of the Christ" today.

OMG! (Pardon the "pun".) -They have a bible with Jim Caviezel's picture on it!  There's actually marketing tie-ins for this movie?!?!?
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on February 26, 2004, 11:11:58 PM
My church bought this lot four years ago, and we've waited a LONG TIME to see construction begin. The city I live in can be very very picky when approving building permits.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 26, 2004, 11:15:26 PM
OMG! (Pardon the "pun".) -They have a bible with Jim Caviezel's picture on it!  There's actually marketing tie-ins for this movie?!?!?
Don't knock it.  This may be the first time some people have had a desire to pick up that book.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 11:19:27 PM
Oy Vey!

I just re-checked the NYTimes web-site.. I guess I missed it before... Or simply read past it, but the headline for the FIDDLER review is:

A Cozy Little McShtetl

-What was that sound the Hamburgler made?
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Post by: JoseSPiano on February 26, 2004, 11:24:20 PM
Well, since I need to be up in time to catch at 1:20 matinee of In America - and this time, I'm just gonna let myself cry and cry and cry...  :'(

And I finally get to catch up with a friend of mine in person for the first time in about a year at the same time too!  :)

Goodnight.
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Post by: George on February 26, 2004, 11:42:06 PM
WOW!

Just catching the news item on TV about the women who had a seizure - possible heart attack - while watching "The Passion of the Christ" today.

OMG! (Pardon the "pun".) -They have a bible with Jim Caviezel's picture on it!  There's actually marketing tie-ins for this movie?!?!?

You think that's bad?  I saw a news segment yesterday that showed someone selling nails on a thin leather rope as a movie tie-in! :P
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 26, 2004, 11:42:36 PM
Couldn't stand to wait, did a quick Google and it was, indeed, The Hero.  There's actually a site devoted to it, which I guess should not surprise me:

http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/2950/SitCom/Hero.htm
It was your inclusion of the horns on the car that was the tip-off for me.  

Back when I still wasn't tall (but working on it), the only copy of TV Guide that my family would get during the year would be the Fall Preview Issue.  I ended up saving them, had a whole collection, although they're long lost now.  Pity.

What I remembered was the thing about the horns on the car (part of the series description), and that there was an accompanying photo of a fellow holding a pistol in front of his face.  He was holding it under his nose by the barrel, with the grip pointing up, in imitation of a moustache.  The fellow had very distinctive eyes, however.

Flash forward.  I realized, while der Brucer was trying to find anything he could on the Internet, that the photograph was of Richard Mulligan.  Like I say, distinctive eyes.  Der B went to IMBD, and there was the title.  Almost nothing on the series itself there, so he had to trust my memory.

(Going back over a decade ago, der Brucer would pick me up at a bar/restaurant in Orange County called OZZ before driving us home.  Every night, they'd have Jeopardy on the television over the bar, and every night we'd be calling out the answers faster than the contestants.  Of course, we'd cheat and not bother to give the answer in the form of a question.)