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Title: BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 12:07:24 AM
Just as I went to post today's notes my computer froze.  Hate that.  HATE that.  In any case, you've read the notes, you've digested the notes and now you don't have to bide your time, you can post until the cows come home.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 06, 2004, 02:21:01 AM
BK, as it is now 2:16AM, I doubt seriously whether I'll be meeting you for breakie at any Du-Par's at any 9:30 in the morning.  The lovely wife and I just got through a marathon session of NOTTING HILL & THE MAN IN THE GLASS BOOTH.

Favourite Sinatra?  I've always been a fan of young Sinatra with Dorsey.  Some favs would be NIGHT & DAY, OH LOOK AT ME NOW, EVERYTHING HAPPENS TO ME, POLKA DOTS & MOON BEAMS.  I'm also quite fond of one on one of his fifties or sixties albums called RAIN.  But I like a great deal of Sinatra from all ages, though the Vegasy Scooby-Dooby-Doo, change the lyrics around era pales a bit.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 06, 2004, 02:27:30 AM
And, BK, I want to know the raunchy Beller remark you teased us with last night.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Tomovoz on March 06, 2004, 02:29:38 AM
Favourite Sinatra songs are "Cycles" and "Love's Been Good To Me".  Not really a big fan of his film performances. Maybe "High Society" and "Pal Joey".
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Michael on March 06, 2004, 02:36:24 AM

Favourite Sinatra?  I've always been a fan of young Sinatra with Dorsey.  Some favs would be NIGHT & DAY, OH LOOK AT ME NOW, EVERYTHING HAPPENS TO ME, POLKA DOTS & MOON BEAMS.  

I also have to have to agree with DR Mr. Charles Pogue. He had such an amazing voice when he was Dorsey. I don't have a particular song like Mr. Pogue has, but his output back then was amazing.

I don't really care for Frank Sinatra when he became just Frank Sinatra but there was a brief period where he put a series of recordings post-From Here to Enternity and pre-Rat Peck era that were really good.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Michael on March 06, 2004, 02:41:01 AM
I am not sure if they were commercially released but Sinatra's pre-recording for the films Carousel (he quit) and the animated version of Finnian's Rainbow (never released or never finished can't remember) were interesting interpretations of the songs. I don't think vocally he was right for the part of Billy Bigelow. As for Finnian's its been a long time since i heard it but I like it.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: elmore3003 on March 06, 2004, 03:34:23 AM
Good morning, all!  I miss Du-Par's.  I remember talking to Roger Rees there one morning during the Judy Kuhn album.  And I have a vague memory of a large group dinner there after one session, maybe Liz' On and Off-Broadway album?

So, it's a Sinatra day?  Let's see . . .

SONGS (too many choices!)
Saturday Night is the Loneliest Night of the Week
I Can't Get Started
Something Stupid
It Was a Very Good Year

FILMS
Manchurian Candidate
Come Blow Your Horn
Can-Can
Take Me Out to the Ball Game


Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Jrand73 on March 06, 2004, 03:38:32 AM
Oh DRJay -you are right that we don't have Susan Hayward or Ida Lupino to play "Martha In the Big House" - so I say there is only one other choice:  Eleanor Parker....she can get that big wide-eyed look....and we're set!

Well while Mr BK was bidin' his ti-yime - 'cos that's the kind of guy he-yime, he chose a couple of my favorite Frank Sinatra movie performances:  Some Came Running and The Manchurian Candidate.  So I will add From Here to Eternity and Pal Joey.

As for songs:  "The Best Is Yet to Come" with its swinging arrangement - maybe by Nelson Riddle....or was it Neal Hefti?

AND NOW.....in honor of her birthday.....HHW'ers....here she is, Miss Mary Jane Hayes later known as Allison Hayes, as a beautiful 19 year old having just been named Miss District of Columbia and heading for the Miss America Pageant! (Thanks to DR JMK!)

Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Matt H. on March 06, 2004, 05:53:35 AM
Favorite Sinatra songs:

"Time After Time" (always and forever my favorite song of his)
"You're Sensational"
"Young at Heart"
"I Didn't Know What Time It Was"

Not a fan of him as an actor, but he was well cast as a heel in PAL JOEY, and I thought he really tried in THE DETECTIVE and made that a believable cop.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Jrand73 on March 06, 2004, 06:12:49 AM
Off to rehearsal....everyone have a nice day.  DR MATTH watch Rock Pretty Baby....it will make you laugh!  And there is another surprise at the end of the tape!  
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on March 06, 2004, 06:34:56 AM
DR Panni,

So very sad about Rachel's friend.

I must have been in high school when I read Edward Arlington Robinson's poem, "Richard Corey." But I thought of it when I read your post, and I read the poem again. It's a poignant as ever.
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Post by: Danise on March 06, 2004, 07:02:30 AM
Good morning all!

I too am very sorry about Rache's friend, Panni.  

I finely heard about Michael Balls concert tickets.  I just hope I won't get nose bleed seats.  

Well, I have tons to do today.  My Mother wants to go have a perm and that takes hours.  

See/talk to you all tonight after we get home.

Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Matt H. on March 06, 2004, 07:34:08 AM
DR JRand, I'm sure I will enjoy ROCK PRETTY BABY when I finally get around to it, but I have to winnow down the obscene stack of DVDs I have presently sitting on my kitchen counter. It's going to take a week of concerted viewing to even make a dent in them.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: JMK on March 06, 2004, 07:42:32 AM
DR Charles Pogue:  I read your late-night comment from yesterday that you thought Dragonheart was OOP.  I just myself yesterday saw it in a two-pack with Son of Dragonheart (or whatever the sequel was called  ::) ) for a whopping $14.95 at Fred Meyer (Portland's version of Ralph's).  It seemed to be a "real" release (Columbia Tristar maybe?  Can't recall right now.)
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 07:42:55 AM
Good morning. I think all the Sinatra songs I love have been mentioned. As for films, I think FROM HERE TO ETERNITY has been left out. HIGH SOCIETY? ON THE TOWN? MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, natch.
I'm a big Frankie fan - so almost anything (except his Paul Anka songs) gets me.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: PennyO on March 06, 2004, 07:53:29 AM
Sinatra had such a beautiful bel canto line through his phrasing - usually unmatched in "pop" singers... but I was listening to some Bing Crosby the other night on the road, and he had it too. Makes pretty much everything I hear from either of them my "favorite" while I'm listening.

Panni, I'm so sorry for your daughter's loss. I had one when I was 16, a close girlfriend in my grade died an untimely death. These are life-changing experiences. Another close friend of mine from that time has turned that particular death into Art, after all the decades...

Elmore3003 - tell me about your libretto adaptation for Houston Grand! And are you in LA??? I'd love to get together and chew the fat, so to speak...

Bye to all DR's from PennyO, now in Kingman, AZ, and headin' for home!
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 08:09:50 AM
Oh yes - and I forgot to say DuPars sounds good. I've been thinking about pancakes lately. And if pancake heaven exists, that's the place. I'll wear a white carnation, DRs.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 08:10:45 AM
Just read your post, PennyO. Thank you for the thought.
Have a wonderful drive home!
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 08:16:47 AM
Du-Par's a comin'.  Be there or be round, you dear dear people out there in the dark.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 08:44:40 AM
I see we are all bidin' our time here at haineshisway.com

Glad someone mentioned Time after Time.  And anyone who doesn't think Sinatra could act or wasn't a fan of his films should see The Manchurian Candidate.  He's really good in it, plus you get to see Miss Leslie Parrish, who never looked more beautiful than in this film.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Jay on March 06, 2004, 08:57:22 AM
Too many favorite Sinatra songs to list!  The man had a beautiful vocal instrument, with a timbre like no other.  His phrasing set a standard that few have ever approached.  I enjoy the man's artistry from the beginning of his career to its end.

To add to the fine list that has been begun by my fellow Dear Readers:

--The House I Live In
--New York, New York (just for the "aaaaaaaaaand" near the end of the song)
--Come Fly With Me (what an arrangement, too!)
--One for My Baby and One More for the Road
--Luck Be A Lady
--That's Life
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 09:00:33 AM
He also had the BEST arrangers and orchestrators - Nelson Riddle, Billy May, Gordon Jenkins, Alex Stordahl.  I'm also quite fond of the two instrumental albums he conducted - one of Alec Wilder's music (and he also sang a great I'll Be Around by Mr. Wilder), and an album called Tone Poems of Color, mostly written by film composers like David Raksin, Elmer Bernstein, Andre Previn, etc.  They're both on CD (both OOP, I think) but worth seeking out.  He also conducted one of Peggy Lee's best albums, The Man I Love, I think.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 09:00:56 AM
I'll be leaving for Du-Par's shortly.  Be there or be round.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 09:02:12 AM
Oh, and I listened to a bit of the Jack Black/Richard Linklater commentary on School of Rock - very jokey, but the half-hour I heard was just not informative enough about the stylistic choices for the film, which is what I was most intrigued about.  There's also a commentary track from the kids - that might be more fun.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Jay on March 06, 2004, 09:02:46 AM
I'll be leaving for Du-Par's shortly.  Be there or be round.

I'd love to join you all for pancakes this morning, but I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen.  Next time, OK?
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 09:07:03 AM
Wussburgers.  Ain't gonna happen.  What kind of talk is that?  What if the Lord had said, "Ain't gonna happen" when creating the world in seven days?  What then, I ask.  I ask, what then.  Then I ask what.  What I ask then.  Then ask I what?  Well, I think we've beaten THAT every which way but loose.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 06, 2004, 10:44:17 AM
Another favourite Sinatra song is from the movie HIGH SOCIETY called "Mind If I Make Love To You?"  

I have never seen the movie HIGH SOCIETY...for several reasons, I think.  First of all, I love THE PHILADELPHIA STORY and find the three leads in HIGH SOCIETY poor substitutes for Gary Grant, Jimmy Stewart, and Kate Hepburn.  Secondly, Frank and Bing, despite their various charms, are just too old for the parts.  I've also always found Grace Kelly a bit of a cold fish (despite Hitchcock's obsessive fantasies about her).

But most of all, I absolutely hate the song "True Love."  It is probably my least favourite Cole Porter song just like "Always" is my least favourite Irving Berlin song and "Yesterday"  is my least favourite Beatles song.  And they'd all be right up there with Alley Cat, It's a Small World, and Pepe as my least favourite songs of all time.

Well, I got nothing against Frank in film, I can't say any of his movies kick me in the butt.  I probably like best is MGM stuff with Gene Kelly, but Kelly's really the reason I'm there.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: S. Woody White on March 06, 2004, 11:40:58 AM
Wussburgers.  Ain't gonna happen.  What kind of talk is that?  What if the Lord had said, "Ain't gonna happen" when creating the world in seven days?  What then, I ask.  I ask, what then.  Then I ask what.  What I ask then.  Then ask I what?  Well, I think we've beaten THAT every which way but loose.
What goes on a Wussburger?  Are there Atkins Wussburgers, sans buns?  And how is being sans buns supposed to improve the looks of your buns?

Der Brucer and I just weren't able to get ourselves there today.  At the time our esteemed BK wanted us to dine on breakfast, we'd have wanted to sup on lunch!  However, their menus (http://www.dupars.com/) look good, as always.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: S. Woody White on March 06, 2004, 11:49:36 AM
I've never been a Sinatra fan.

Right now, der Brucer is listening (with much brio and volume) to the OCR of The Secret Garden.  The Marsha Norman/Lucy Simon version.  The new speakers serve the recording well!  Interesting what has become of some of the cast since then: Rebecca Luker is the queen of Broadway revivals, John Cameron Mitchell is the world's most famous German transsexual rocker, Robert Westenberg has been touring the nation (and world) taking his clothes off, Mandy Patinkin has become...well, Mandy Patinkin.  As for Daily Eagan, I don't know what's become of her?
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Jane on March 06, 2004, 11:52:21 AM
I have never seen the movie HIGH SOCIETY...for several reasons, I think.  First of all, I love THE PHILADELPHIA STORY and find the three leads in HIGH SOCIETY poor substitutes for Gary Grant, Jimmy Stewart, and Kate Hepburn.


In my opinion your instincts are “right on”.   I don’t understand the fuss over HIGH SOCIETY, yet I never tire of THE PHILADELPHIA STORY.

Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Jane on March 06, 2004, 11:54:11 AM
I don’t have a favorite Frank Sinatra song from his early music which I enjoy very much.  On the other hand, I prefer not to hear his later work.  Once in a while I will see a wonderful, old film clip of him singing OLD MAN RIVER.

Panni how is your sweet wonderdog today?  Is he feeling better?

I keep thinking of Rachael and her friend.  It is so heart wrenching.  So often when a child becomes depressed the parents are the last to know, or know the severity of it, yet most often they are the ones who can give the most support & hopefully save their child.  Sadly the friends often know but don’t think they should call the parents.  
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: S. Woody White on March 06, 2004, 12:17:07 PM
I've come across another example of the lack of film history that too many film reviewers suffer from.  This time, the example is the CNN review of Hidalgo. (http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/05/hidalgo.ap/index.html)

Consider the following extract:

But despite the sweeping vistas and dazzling sunsets, it's hard not to be distracted by how derivative director Joe Johnston's film is.

There are giant chunks taken from the
Indiana Jones movies, especially in Mortensen's permanently cheeky manner as he navigates his way through various sandswept adventures.

Lawrence of Arabia obviously springs to mind, especially with Omar Sharif playing the powerful Sheikh Riyadh, against whose horses Hopkins is competing. (It is marvelous, though, to see Sharif's formidable presence on the big screen again after nearly a decade-long absence, and the role is a perfect fit.)

Hopkins' journey from post-Wounded Knee inebriation to self-possessed steeliness in a foreign land recalls Tom Cruise in
The Last Samurai (which recalled Kevin Costner in Dances With Wolves).

A suffocating sandstorm and an attack of locusts, while impressive, are reminiscent of the Brendan Fraser
Mummy movies.

And comparisons to another film based on a true story,
Seabiscuit, are inevitable: The rider is too big and the horse is too small, and no one thinks they can win against a sea of vastly superior animals.

End extract.

Notice something here?  There's only one film in that list that was produced prior to Star Wars, and that film was famously restored and returned to the theaters in 1989, post-Tatooine.

And does anyone else find absurd the critic's accusation that Hidalgo is derivative of the Indiana Jones films, or The Mummy, when those films were derivative themselves, and purposely so?
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Maya on March 06, 2004, 12:17:31 PM
Hey, everyone!

I just got a WEIRD letter.  Apparently, I've won a $5,000 scholarship to St. Josephs University (which I suppose I was eligible for through my membership to Phi Theta Kappa).  They're a Jesuit school, and don't seem to have a theatre program...so, yeah...while I'm honored, it just ain't happening.  (My mom sent me to a Jewish pre-school for crying out loud).

I adore Sinatra!  The phrasing, the depth of interpretation, and ah, the voice...for my favorite songs, let's go with "I've Got You Under My Skin," "Night and Day," "All or Nothing At All," and "New York, New York."


But most of all, I absolutely hate the song "True Love."  It is probably my least favourite Cole Porter song just like "Always" is my least favourite Irving Berlin song and "Yesterday"  is my least favourite Beatles song.  And they'd all be right up there with Alley Cat, It's a Small World, and Pepe as my least favourite songs of all time.


I don't care for "True Love" that much either.  I mean, I'm as big a Porter fan as they come, but I just find it rather...banal.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Jane on March 06, 2004, 12:18:14 PM
I miss Du-Par's.   I have a vague memory of a large group dinner there

I have a fun high school memory of a snatch breakfast at the Farmer’s Market Du-par's.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Jane on March 06, 2004, 12:20:38 PM
Echo and I are off to visit our friends at the nursing home.  Have a nice day.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 06, 2004, 12:20:57 PM
Maya, I am also a huge Porter fan too...but even the master could write a clinker every now and then.  I think "banal" is the perfect word to describe "True Love."  It is irritating in its banality.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: S. Woody White on March 06, 2004, 12:23:15 PM
...I don't care for "True Love" that much either.  I mean, I'm as big a Porter fan as they come, but I just find it rather...banal.
Good point, Maya, it is a plain song.  It requires a truly great voice to lift it above itself (such as Rebecca Luker's recording, that BK produced), and those are hard to come by.
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Post by: George on March 06, 2004, 12:36:03 PM
I've never been a Sinatra fan.

Right now, der Brucer is listening (with much brio and volume) to the OCR of The Secret Garden.  The Marsha Norman/Lucy Simon version.  The new speakers serve the recording well!  Interesting what has become of some of the cast since then: Rebecca Luker is the queen of Broadway revivals, John Cameron Mitchell is the world's most famous German transsexual rocker, Robert Westenberg has been touring the nation (and world) taking his clothes off,

WHAT??  What's he doing?  Where do I get tickets?? ;)

I was never really a Frank Sinatra fan, but I like a lot of the songs that have been mentioned.  I also have copies of his recordings of "Send In the Clowns" and "Good Thing Going" by Stephen Sondheim.  I just had to.  I have never heard his version of "The Tender Trap" but I love the song and I especially love Janis Siegel's version.  It's on her CD called "The Tender Trap," which is very good in my humble opinion (IMHO in Internet lingo).  I highly recommend it (of course I would...she's part of The Manhattan Transfer).  The first song on the CD is a version of "That Old Black Magic" in 5/4!  It's wonderful.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 06, 2004, 12:40:33 PM
Bing, Grace and Fred are wonderful in the MUSICAL of "The Philadelphia Story."  

Since BOTH are available, it should not be too much of an inconvenience for lovers of one or the other (or both) to co-exist....yes?

It's a fun film with lovely music.  It has a place in this world.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Charles Pogue on March 06, 2004, 01:06:44 PM
No one is saying High Society doesn't have a place in the world, I'm just saying I've never been able to muster up any desire to see it and the lackluster clips and snatches I have seen of it have never stirred any interest in me to see it.  I like Frank; I like der Bingle; Grace Kelly I was always ambivalent about...but somehow this movie has always been a real who cares for me.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 01:25:59 PM
I've never been a fan of High Society.  However, the Rebecca Luker recording that someone mentioned has a wonderful version of True Love on it - in fact, I adore the album in total (it's a Cole Porter album) - we had a blast doing it.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 01:26:47 PM
Oh, and might I just inquire where in tarnation IS everyone?  Guess I'll have to go elsewhere for my mental delectation, although what's here IS cherce.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Noel on March 06, 2004, 01:32:12 PM
I like Frank; I like der Bingle; Grace Kelly I was always ambivalent about...but somehow this movie has always been a real who cares for me.

Fair enough, but, for me, the real attractions of High Society are Celeste Holm and Louis Armstrong.  (No one's mentioned them yet...where in tarnation IS everybody?)

I guess my favorite Sinatra song is My One and Only Love and, film performance, Guys and Dolls.  Even though he and Brando should have switched roles.

Question I need help with: If you knew a female star 50 years ago, like Lucille Ball or Judy Holliday, who was about to testify before the HUAC, how would you advise them to dress?
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Post by: Michael on March 06, 2004, 01:42:34 PM
To anyone if the southeast area of Florida.

I have an extra ticket to see Mary Cleere Haran on Monday night. If you would like to go please email ASAP
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 01:44:48 PM
And if people e-mail you ASAP, what will you do with ASAP?  
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 02:00:09 PM
Just came back from the wilds of Glendale and there is so much here to comment on.
Jane - The wonderdog is back to his wonderself today. Thanks for asking. I think it was the medication the new vet (to whom I shall never go again) put him on. I specifically said to her, "If the tests show nothing wrong, why put him on meds? What if they have side effects?" She looked at me like I just crawled out of a hole and said, "I'm not in the habit of giving medication to animals that would make them worse." I should have known right there. But I thought maybe the meds would clear up whatever it was in his system that was giving him an upset stomach. Anyway, I know better for next time. Just go with my instincts.

Maya - My daughter, who is Jewish, goes to a Jesuit school. So just because the place is a Jesuit college, it doesn't mean the scholarship offer is not legit.

Jane again - Yes, that young man's story is so very sad. But sometimes even friends don't know. The daughter of the friend who told me of the tragedy was out with him just hours before it happened. He seemed fine. True, she'd been trying to help him cope with his depression with long phone conversations in the middle of the night, and so on. But I think most young people refuse to even entertain the thought that a friend might kill himself.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 02:09:57 PM
RE HIGH SOCIETY vs PHILADELPHIA STORY. No comparison, of course. But I still enjoy HIGH SOCIETY. I find it relaxing and fun.
Has anyone mentioned Frank in GUY AND DOLLS? And we've got to include THE PRIDE AND THE PASSION, just because he looked so silly.

Jane - I recently saw that Old Man River clip you mentioned. It was unbelievably good.
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: elmore3003 on March 06, 2004, 02:20:35 PM
I have to join the crowd of nay sayers on HIGH SOCIETY.  I love the PHILADELPHIA STORY, but I don't think HIGH SOCIETY's doing anyone's reputation any good:  my favorite Cole Porter song in the score is "Well, Did You Evah" and that's recycled from DUBARRY WAS A LADY!   I think the musical with Melissa Errico did some things better thatn the film, but even that's not as good as it could have been.

Rebecca Luker's recording of Porter songs was a great deal of fun, and she's one helluva dame, that Luker.  BK kept everything sparkling from his diet Coke to his saucy demeanor, and I even finished on schedule.

DR George, I believe Robert Westenberg's touring in THE FULL MONTY at present.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 02:31:21 PM
Whilst on my travels I managed to score two interesting LPs which have eluded me: One, the divoon McGuire Sisters doing the score to Subways are for Sleeping, which I'm transferring to CD whilst I type, and Jackie and Roy singing Andre and Dory Previn songs.  The McGuire Sisters LP is in excellent condition, albeit mono, but it's SIGNED by the sisters!  $4.99
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Post by: Matt H. on March 06, 2004, 02:50:55 PM
Well, I'll be coming down ON the side of HIGH SOCIETY. Is a great musical? Nope. Is it as good as THE PHILADELPHIA STORY? Not on your life. (How could it be? Philip Barry wrote it for Katharine Hepburn, tailored Tracy Lord to her personality, mannerisms, and attitude.) But it's a professionally executed, entertaining fluffy musical. Superb cast, excellently directed by Charles Walters, and has grand production design and music.

Now, about that music: I think the score is wonderful. Very entertaining, and if you'll notice, one of my favorite Sinatra renditions mentioned in my page one post was "You're Sensational" which I think is the best song in the score. But I'm glad Cole Porter wrote ALL of it. I wouldn't want there not to have been that score to HIGH SOCIETY. The film might have been even better if they had cast a singer in the Tracy Lord part. As we have it now, the leading lady and the most important member of the cast sings half of one song IN A MUSICAL comedy. Might be fun to think of which musical leading lady could have handled Tracy Lord on film.

"True Love" banal? Hmmmmm...... even Cole Porter thought so. He always said he was amazed the song sold over a million copies because he himself considered it one of his weakest songs. I think it's simplistically charming, but who am I to argue with the composer?
Title: Re:BIDIN' MY TIME
Post by: JMK on March 06, 2004, 03:16:00 PM
Noel:  my late Uncle, the infamous leftist, was indeed called before the HUAC (in fact Martin Dies called him "the baby-faced Pinko of New York's docks," which I have always loved).  Charlie, though not a female, and certainly nothing like Lucille Ball (aside from swearing like a sailor, which he was), I'm sure would have looked stunning in pearls and taffeta.  As it was, he refused to wear even a suit and, unlike Kazan (his former tenant), he refused to even recognize the committee's right to be asking questions, let alone answer them.  I have his complete trial transcript from my FOIA requests.  It's a disturbing yet fascinating record (kind of like some Ray Conniff records I used to have--oh, wait, that's a different kind of record).
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Post by: JMK on March 06, 2004, 03:18:17 PM
BK, I thank my (or perhaps your) lucky stars you were able to get the "McGuires" to record "Getting Married Today."  Quite possibly my favorite track of yours.   :o
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Post by: Danise on March 06, 2004, 03:28:40 PM
Evening all!

Mom had her perm and looks quite nice, if I do say so myself.

Oh, and I had my hair cut.  Now I heard that sharp gasp you made.  I know you remember what happened the last time when that sheep shearer got her hands on my poor hair.  

Well we went someplace else.  I was waiting for Mom to be finished and was looking in the style books and found one I just fell in love with.  The lady was so nice that did Moms hair that I showed her the picture and asked if she could that and (more important) would it look good on me.  

She said, "Yes" to every one of my questions and so I decided to let her cut (gulp)  my treasured locks.  It turned out even better than I had hoped.  I LOVE my new look and now I am a kempt woman.   :D

We also went to the local GoodWill store.  I was able to find a wax bath for my hand.  Now that it is confirmed that I have RA in my right hand, my doctor suggested I get one.  The warm wax should help my pain.  I knew I had it before it was "official".  I shouldn't have gotten so upset when I got the call on Thursday but there's something about that time between you have the blood draw and you get the results that you tell yourself it's not going to be true.  Then it is true and its that much harder to accept.

Question for you, Bruce--why did you choose Adkins over South Beach?  I read both books and choose South Beach because it seemed so close to what I already eat.  I didn't think I would have a hard time sticking with it and that's very true.  I don't really feel like I'm on a diet.  

I also bought my carry on suitcase for the trip to Utah and a new purse.  I'm only going to be gone 4 days and 3 nights.  I don't think I'll need to pack the house to take with me.  I wasn't going to bother with a carry on but more experanced friends said I have to in case my check in suitcase gets lost.  A very scarry thought.  They said I need to have  change of clothes and everything I consider important, like my digial camera, with me on the plane.    I hope they don't lose anything of mine.  

Has anyone here had that happen?  What do you do?  Did you get your stuff back?
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 03:28:54 PM
We can't even get to page three?  My goodness, the errant and truant will be bitch-slapped from here to eternity.
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Post by: Emily on March 06, 2004, 03:33:22 PM
I was just singing along to "No Good Deed" from the Wicked cast album and my cat got up from my bed where he was sleeping and RAN out.

I'll take that as a sign ;)
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Post by: Danise on March 06, 2004, 03:46:18 PM
Well, I guess we'd better get posting!  
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 03:51:02 PM
Oh, I wuz only funnin'.  What care I if we achieve a new low and by quite a margin, too.  I care not, it is just The Way of Things.  I've got the McGuire Sisters singing Subways are for Sleeping to assuage my bitter tears of Emmanuel Kant.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 03:51:54 PM
Or was it the bitter tears of Gus van Sant?
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 03:52:24 PM
Or was it the bitter tea of General Tso?
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 03:52:56 PM
Or was it the bitte schoen of Sally Bowles?
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 03:53:24 PM
Or was it the bitter tea of Robert Plant?
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 03:53:46 PM
Or was it the bitter plant of Dr. T?
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Post by: William F. Orr on March 06, 2004, 03:56:56 PM
I'm back from visiting Joe, and I will tell you all the bad news some other time.

I myself have never been a huge Sinatra fan.  As far as Ratpackers are concerned, I much prefer Sammy Davis, with or without the Jr.  I will, however, jump into the fray and come out in favor of High Society, which I always found delightful, especially Sinatra and Celeste.  Der Binger is, of course, playing Der Binger.  Not to be confused with Der Brucer, who plays Der Brucer.

Sinatra changing lyrics?  Well, on one occasion, I think he improved them, and--pray I don't get struck by lightning!--it was a Sondheim song, Good Thing Going.  Sondheim wrote, "alright, tough" and Frank changed it to "okay, tough", which I think gives the line more bite because of the palatal stop (k).

Having seen the film of New York, New York, the title song belongs exclusively to Liza for me, and Frank's version is always very sad, because you can hear his voice going, and all I can think is, "What he would have done with this song ten years earlier!"

HUAC:  Far be it from me to pass up a chance for self-promotion.  This is a lyric I wrote some years ago, never been set, for a show concerning that political era.  The show may yet see light of day:

Are you now, or have you ever been
In love with me?
Did we both ever take an oath
Of loyalty?
Don't refuse to answer on the grounds
That this line of questioning
Is out of bounds.

Do you now, or did you in the past
Betray my love?
No more games:  time for naming names.
(See list above.)
Does your heart possess the need to know
That I sought its violent
Overthrow?

Swear that you renounce the party line,
Or you may be pressured to resign.
Are you now, or
Have you
Ever been
Mine?

All these years we two have shared the load,
Fellow-travelers on a crooked road.
Read this through with care before you sign.
Are you now, or
Have you
Ever been
Mine?

© 2004 William F. Orr
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Post by: Danise on March 06, 2004, 04:02:22 PM
Continued good vibes to Joe, William F. Orr.  

So Bruce, how about the answer to my question?

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Post by: William F. Orr on March 06, 2004, 04:13:01 PM
Thanks, Danise.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 04:24:30 PM
What question, Danise?  Did I miss a question?
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Post by: Jrand73 on March 06, 2004, 04:30:57 PM
DRNOEL - I would say a suit with a jacket and a nice hat and gloves.

This Trigere would be just the thing....for a TALL girl anyway!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 06, 2004, 04:30:57 PM
Panni, I was also in the wilds of Glendale...Brand Boulevard...where apparently Mr. Kimmel and I passed like ships in the night, just missing each other at our favourite bookstore, Bookfellows.  Christine said you had been in earlier and were I guess showing off the cover (and my blurb) and discussing your upcoming signing.  While there, they had a reading going on with four mystery authors.  A word of advice to BK or any other authors...never, ever do a tag-team reading/signing with other authors...first of all, it puts you in competition for the buyers and you don't want to be the sad one there, not getting your books bought and twiddling your thumbs instead of signing.  Secondly, it cuts into your reading time when four authors have to share it.  Thirdly, it just didn't seem like there was a lot of buying /signing going on.  I would think that a potential buyer might be intimidated, not wanting to buy anyone's book for fear of hurting the feelings of the other authors.

Since I told you my least favourite  Cole Porter song is  True Love, tis only fair to say that my favourite Cole Porter songs are Night & Day, I Am In Love, and So Near and Yet So Far.  I was listening to them in the car on the way home...Ella on I Am In Love and Bobby Short on So Near and Yet So Far and Mr. Sinatra on Night & Day.
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Post by: Danise on March 06, 2004, 04:31:52 PM
Your welcome, Mr. Orr.  I do so hope the time goes by quick.  How much longer?

The question was:

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Question for you, Bruce--why did you choose Adkins over South Beach?  I read both books and choose South Beach because it seemed so close to what I already eat.  I didn't think I would have a hard time sticking with it and that's very true.  I don't really feel like I'm on a diet.  
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Post by: Jrand73 on March 06, 2004, 04:33:53 PM
Right now...my favorite Cole Porter (Indiana native, you know) song is "Madame I Love Your Crepe Suzettes".

But I have a fondness for many including "I Get a Kick Out of You" and "So In Love" and of course "Friendship."
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Post by: William F. Orr on March 06, 2004, 04:33:58 PM
Here it is, Bruce, you old Evelyn Wood speed reader, you:
Question for you, Bruce--why did you choose Adkins over South Beach?  I read both books and choose South Beach because it seemed so close to what I already eat.  I didn't think I would have a hard time sticking with it and that's very true.  I don't really feel like I'm on a diet.  

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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 04:34:49 PM
Actually, I think I'm closer to the South Beach than Atkins.  It's working VERY slowly, but it's working.

Pogue, too bad I missed you.  I hate signings with more than one author, which is why I do them solo only.  
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Post by: William F. Orr on March 06, 2004, 04:39:22 PM
Well, if we are talking unfavorite Cole Porter songs, the all-time number-one I-can't-believe-he-actually-wrote-that composition from any composer has to be "The Red Blues" from Silk Stockings.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 04:44:20 PM
For those who are not TIVOing at this very moment, Fox Classic movies is showing a divoon double bill and I do mean DIVOON!  And that double bill is: Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter and The Girl Can't Help It, both starring Miss Jayne Mansfield and Tony Randall, and both brilliantly directed by Tish-Tash himself, Mr. Frank Tashlin.

Tony Randall re Miss Mansfield: Miss Marlowe is the titular head of the company.

Miss Mansfield:  Oooooooh.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 04:45:54 PM
Oh, and would you like to know who you missed at Du-Par's?  Well, I'll tell you who you missed.  Mr. Curtis Harrington, director of What's the Matter with Helen and Games.  And my pal, Mr. David Lee, creator of Frazier, who's about to direct the Reprise! Company and then 110 In the Shade at the Pasadena Playhouse.
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 06, 2004, 04:48:54 PM
No, DR Bill O., I think "Ritz Rock and Roll" (same film) is worse.  The only reason for it's existance was to put Astaire in a top hat yet again, but it's otherwise lame.  "Red Blues" at least has a good rhythm riff that sets off the dancing.

Again, good vibes to Joe.
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Post by: Jay on March 06, 2004, 04:56:41 PM
I've come across another example of the lack of film history that too many film reviewers suffer from.  This time, the example is the CNN review of Hidalgo. (http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/05/hidalgo.ap/index.html)

Consider the following extract:

...Lawrence of Arabia obviously springs to mind, especially with Omar Sharif playing the powerful Sheikh Riyadh, against whose horses Hopkins is competing. (It is marvelous, though, to see Sharif's formidable presence on the big screen again after nearly a decade-long absence, and the role is a perfect fit.)...

End extract.


Uhh, someone should tell this "reviewer" that Mr. Sharif appeared in the charming Monsieur Ibrahim, in the lead and titular role.....last year.
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 06, 2004, 04:59:02 PM
There is an up side to setting a new record for low posts, of course.

We won't have to worry about setting a new low post record for quite a while!  

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Post by: Jrand73 on March 06, 2004, 05:08:29 PM
I found it....here I am making a professional theatre debut in October, 1985, in Lanford Wilson's BALM IN GILEAD at the Phoenix Theatre in Indianapolis.  I am at the left side of the picture on a bar stool talking to some cohorts....down front and center is my lovely friend Marika Blades, one of the best actresses I have ever worked with....and a great, great pal!  ;D

Photo was featured in Theatre The Human Art by Sam Smiley.

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Post by: Danise on March 06, 2004, 05:10:24 PM
Just had to go outside to get Bear to come back in the house.  He does that sometimes.  I found him on the other side of the house next to the fence.

We have a full moon and sea fog is rolling in. It looks like werewolf movie.   LOL!
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Post by: Jrand73 on March 06, 2004, 05:10:54 PM
Yes, watching that myself, Mr BK.  

Lovely quote...and another favorite....

"I'll tell you, if you would just let get a word in sideways......"

"Don't talk dirty....you can always tell a writer...."
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Post by: JoseSPiano on March 06, 2004, 05:43:32 PM
Good Evening!

-I'm here, I'm here... But I'm also about to head down to the hotel bar for a cocktail... or two... or three...

Unfortunately, today seemed to be the "less talented" day... as well as the "stupid people" day.  I was actually getting upset and angry with the people in the afternoon groups.  Stupid song choices.  Bad(!) copies.  Bad(!!) singing.  Bad acting.  Bad acting of the songs.  Or no acting at all.  And, unfortunately, for some of the students who went this afternoon, bad(!!!!) teaching and coaching.  What some of these "kids" brought in in regards to song choice, and how they were told to perform their songs was simply unbelievable at times.  I was starting to get mad at their teachers and coaches.  In particular, there was one batch of students from one school who happened to be all in the same audition group, and out of about ten of them, only one really had any chance of securing a callback.

Oh, and only four more "Gimme, Gimme's" today.  Oh, and about another four or five "I Want To Be Bad" - and for a few them, that was, unfortunately, a very apt song.  UGH!  ;)

Well, I have a Tanqueray and tonic calling me...

I'll list my Sinatra choices when I get back.
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Post by: Michael on March 06, 2004, 05:43:46 PM
Talking HUAC I watch them film The Front the other day. Interesting film and the fact that the writer, director and several actors in the film were actually blacklisted.
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 05:54:49 PM
Oh, and would you like to know who you missed at Du-Par's?  Well, I'll tell you who you missed.  Mr. Curtis Harrington, director of What's the Matter with Helen and Games.  And my pal, Mr. David Lee, creator of Frazier, who's about to direct the Reprise! Company and then 110 In the Shade at the Pasadena Playhouse.
Oh who cares about them! You missed Anna Sandor, screenwriter divine, world-class raconteur, and Jayne Mansfield look-alike.
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 06:01:21 PM
Danise - Yes, I've lost my luggage. I think most people who travel fairly often have had that nasty experience. If it happens - and it probably won't  - you report it to the airline at the airport and give them a number where you can be reached. Usually it's just been put on the wrong plane and will be redirected to the right destination once it's located. Then they bring it to your hotel. Meanwhile, if you need something urgently - like pajamas, underwear, toothpaste - you buy what you require, keep the receipts and submit the bill to the airline. They should reimburse you. There's a ceiling as to how much they will fork out, so don't buy silk designer pajamas. But - as I said - it's unlikely that will happen to you.
Congratulations on the new do!
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 06:02:28 PM
I got me a Dragonheart Franchise double-bill, that's what I got me.  I got me the original The Big Bounce, that's what I got me.
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 06:08:41 PM
WFO - Good vibes to Joe and to you. And I like your lyrics!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 06, 2004, 06:15:16 PM
Please note...I had nothing to do with the so-called sequel to DRAGONHEART.  Christine at BOOKFELLOWS today asked when I was going t write my next novel because she LOVES my DRAGONHEART novel...She perked right up when I told her that the last time I talk to Penquin/Putnam (what? three/four yrs ago) they told me they still had 2,500 of the books in their warehouse.  Maybe she'll order them and we can get another printing going.  It did get to five printings initially.
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 06:19:21 PM
A word of advice to BK or any other authors...never, ever do a tag-team reading/signing with other authors...

The only book signing I ever did was just such a thing -- but it was for a mystery anthology and we were all in the SAME book.
The signing was still not a huge success, however, because they placed the table in the middle of a department store in Toronto (Simpson's for those in TO) and shoppers walked around the "table of authors" as if we were carrying the bubonic plague. It was quite humiliating. I kept the poster for the signing for years, just to keep me humble -- threw it out just before moving back here.  
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 06:22:08 PM
FS Pogue - Saw your name on a soundtrack record of THE FLY today.
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Post by: MBarnum on March 06, 2004, 06:39:19 PM
BK, how will I still be able to order Kritzer Time later this month? I am waiting for my taxes which should be deposited in my sadly emply checking account in about 1 week!

I am not a big fan of Sinatra. I like his Big Band stuff from the 40s, but that is about it I am afraid.

Weather was fairly nice today and I finally was able to get the grass cut in the front yard. The back yard will have to wait!

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Post by: MBarnum on March 06, 2004, 06:40:06 PM
WFO, I think you asked last week where in Oregon I live. I live in Salem which is just about 30 minutes north of Corvallis.
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 06, 2004, 06:54:35 PM
And I just sent you Sinatra sings Icelandic hits MBarnum. Oh well!
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 06, 2004, 07:00:52 PM
I just checked in with "Schoolfriends.com" or whatever it is called. Have not been there for a couple of months . Good to have a few messages there from students I taught way back in the 1960's. Good for the go to be remembered kindly. Have never bothered much with contacting fellow students or teachers - figured we would still be in contact if were close! I always reply to the students and as yet have remembered them!
At least I'm posting and it is a fresh topic. Any other experiences from the Schoolfriend site?
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Post by: Jrand73 on March 06, 2004, 07:14:54 PM
The Big Bounce....original...is that Ryan O'Neal and Leigh Taylor Young?
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 07:26:06 PM
I'm sitting here thinking I should post - but have nothing particularly interesting to say. I should be writing tonight, but I feel more like reading. So, I think I'll read. -- Now what to read? I have several things on the go, plus one book I want to begin, plus newspapers and magazines...  There. I've posted this WILDLY interesting post.  Whewww!
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 06, 2004, 07:33:10 PM
Not sure that I can cope with posting something quite of that calibre Panni! I'll have to do some in depth research before my next post.  My reading matter at present is "Everything Was Possible".
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 08:07:17 PM
Yes, Ryan's first film.  MBarnum, if you're telling me you'll order it I'll hold it for you.  I literally have two copies left and I really don't have a clue when I'll reorder those.  
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Post by: William F. Orr on March 06, 2004, 08:12:51 PM
Well, ladies and germaniums, I've been trying to hide from reality for a couple of hours with Dracula II [is that a title?  I mean is that a title, Irving?], a nice second-rate clichéed (1) gory flick--which makes me think of Joe.  Uh, let me clarify that.  We've gotten to spending Saturday nights watching just such cinematic germs gems.  And what do you do on a Saturday night alone?  (Oh, a... need I say it?)

And now I am listening to the OCR of Seesaw on my computer CD player, which I think has the best sound in the house--perhaps because it is the only one with a subwoofer.  But it skips whenever I download a new page.

And by the bye, how did they get away with "Welcome to Holiday Inn"?  Shouldn't it have been "Welcome to Holiday Inn™" or else a big, fat law suit?

I'm going through a Cy Coleman phase since he was at the Musical Theatre Conference here at Hofstra last March.  There are so many scores of his I didn't really know, and I am developing a great admiration for him.  

I know I didn't really report on the conference at the time, because I missed a lot of it, having a truly horrible tooth-ache that week.  But I did see Cy talk,actually just tell anecdotes about all his shows and personalities; I know I've quoted a couple of his stories here.

And there was also an evening concert (for all of $10 a seat), "Cy Coleman and Friends".  His "friends" consisted of his combo, Michelle Lee, Greg Edelman, Carolee Carmello, and a fourth singer whose name escapes me at the moment.  Michelle, of course, sang "Nobody Does It Like Me" and "I'm Way Ahead/Seesaw".  

One of the highlights was his combo playing "Three" from I Love My Wife, which is an incredible jazz piece, but I never realized it, because I was always so absorbed in Michael Stuart's lyrics.

So what am I missing from my Coleman collection now?  The Will Rogers Follies, Wildcat, The Life OCR (I only have the weird concept album) Julie Wilson's Coleman album, and a bunch of movie scores which probably aren't available.  Oh, I see on amazon that Cy also has a solo album, different from the old one I have on vinyl.

And what does all this have to do with Sinatra?  Well, "Witchcraft" for one, and "The Best Is Yet to Come" for another.


(1)Although one could make a case for spelling the participle clichéd, it is normally only  silent e that is elided with the suffix, and I therefore elected the additional e.  Or whatever.  --wfo
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 06, 2004, 08:13:19 PM
FS Pogue - Saw your name on a soundtrack record of THE FLY today.

Of course, the record has no dialogue...it's all music and the work of one Mr. Howard Shore.  It was his biggest scoring assignment to that time.

The cognoscenti here will recognize Mr. Shore's name as the composer (and THREE-TIME OSCAR WINNER) for the trilogy to "The Lord of the Rings."

Mr. Shore's score for "The Fly" brought him great notices, is considered a classic of the genre by a great number of film music fans,  and his assignments -- and prestige -- grew from then on.
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Post by: Jane on March 06, 2004, 08:14:50 PM
Just came back from the wilds of Glendale and there is so much here to comment on.
Jane - The wonderdog is back to his wonderself today. Thanks for asking. I think it was the medication the new vet (to whom I shall never go again) put him on. I specifically said to her, "If the tests show nothing wrong, why put him on meds? What if they have side effects?" She looked at me like I just crawled out of a hole and said, "I'm not in the habit of giving medication to animals that would make them worse." I should have known right there. But I thought maybe the meds would clear up whatever it was in his system that was giving him an upset stomach. Anyway, I know better for next time. Just go with my instincts.

Maya - My daughter, who is Jewish, goes to a Jesuit school. So just because the place is a Jesuit college, it doesn't mean the scholarship offer is not legit.

Jane again - Yes, that young man's story is so very sad. But sometimes even friends don't know. The daughter of the friend who told me of the tragedy was out with him just hours before it happened. He seemed fine. True, she'd been trying to help him cope with his depression with long phone conversations in the middle of the night, and so on. But I think most young people refuse to even entertain the thought that a friend might kill himself.

Glad he is feeling better.  If you need referrals for a new vet I can check with my friends if you like.

I think I have been to the Jesuit school.  Where is it located?

I think most young people just can't comprehend suicide.  I hope this friend of his doesn't feel guilty she didn't help him.  Once again, it is so sad.

Our computer froze today & I am using a little lap top Keith picked up this afternoon.  I really don't enjoy using it & find it difficult to read.  I think Keith should be able to improve the brightness & contrast once he has completely set things up.  
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Post by: Jrand73 on March 06, 2004, 08:15:24 PM
Well.....I have just watched CAMP and the I share feelings expressed here at HHW yesterday....but I will add a couple of things that were touched on...

I absolutely loved the Promises, Promises song "Turkey Lurkey Time" - I think Mr BK singled it out yesterday as well.  Such terrific choreography, and the kids did so well.  Only thing the kids couldn't do were fan kicks, but that's okay!  Made me get out my album and play the song again and try some of those steps!

I also liked the final moment in the film proper when those two kids were doing the beginning of WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF?

And the pretentious director telling the three kids who were doing a play sitting in a dumpster:  "Try it again, and don't mess up the blocking this time!"  LOL!

Jin-gle bells, jingle bells, jin-gle bells, jingle bells, jin-gle bells, jingle bells....

Is DRJOSE still drinking?
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Post by: Matt H. on March 06, 2004, 08:20:19 PM
I don't like "The Red Blues" or "The Ritz Roll and Rock,"  but the former does look good on the SILK STOCKINGS DVD.

Many of the songs he composed for ALADDIN are forgettable.

But I could easily list fifty that I think are smashing with inventive tunes and almost unparalleled witty lyrics.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 06, 2004, 08:23:30 PM
I am not a big fan of Sinatra. I like his Big Band stuff from the 40s, but that is about it I am afraid.

I wholeheartedly agree.  Except for the Big Band stuff.

Oh, wait!  That leaves...nothing.  

Yep, I knew that was it!

:D
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 06, 2004, 08:25:14 PM
I don't like "The Red Blues" or "The Ritz Roll and Rock,"  but the former does look good on the SILK STOCKINGS DVD.

Many of the songs he composed for ALADDIN are forgettable.

But I could easily list fifty that I think are smashing with inventive tunes and almost unparalleled witty lyrics.

The truth is, there are clunkers in virtually EVERY musical out there.

How did this become pick on Cole Porter day?  Oh...wait...I remember...it's Sinatra day....and Sinatra was in "High Society"....and....oh....

...never mind.
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Post by: Matt H. on March 06, 2004, 08:25:14 PM
In COLORED LIGHTS, Kander and Ebb do not have nice things to say about Sinatra's take on "New York, New York." Ebb especially did not like his lyrics tampered with.
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Post by: Matt H. on March 06, 2004, 08:28:07 PM
The truth is, there are clunkers in virtually EVERY musical out there.

How did this become pick on Cole Porter day?

Well of course there are, and I'll say that the ones I mentioned in my message came near the end of his career which was marked by great success and huge popularity. There's no shame in not being as adept near the end of your life. Richard Rodgers certainly wasn't, either.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 08:40:37 PM
It's interesting that a singer can be so loved and not-loved by so many.  I'm watching The Big Bounce (the original) which is thus far The Big Bore despite being based on an Elmore Leonard novel.  It's hilarious when they pick these huge bombs to remake, isn't it?  The Italian Job was not a success (the original) and this thing was a huge stinkaroo.  It has, perhaps, the all-time worst score ever written for a film, by Mr. Mike Curb.
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Post by: Jrand73 on March 06, 2004, 08:46:40 PM
But I have ALL the MIKE CURB CONGREGATION lp's!
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 08:56:13 PM
I'm afraid I'm going to have to shut this tripe off.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 06, 2004, 08:59:23 PM
But...but...didn't "the Congregation" sing most of the great movie themes of the 60s?

Remember "Burning Bridges"?

And didn't they have a version of "Lara's Theme"?

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Post by: Jrand73 on March 06, 2004, 09:00:47 PM
"Burning Bridges" I have.....don't remember that they did "Lara's Theme", but it sounds like something they WOULD do.

Turn the damn thing off MR BK....your time is more valuable than that!
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Post by: Matt H. on March 06, 2004, 09:01:34 PM
If they're going to remake something, take something unsuccessful and see if someone with a different perspective can do something more inventive with it.

Don't waste your time remaking masterpieces or very successful and well made films: PSYCHO, THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, CHARADE.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 06, 2004, 09:04:41 PM
Michel Legrand wrote a very lovely score for the American-International "Wuthering Heights" starring Timothy Dalton and (?) Anna Calder-Marshall.

The theme was given lyrics by Alan and Marilyn Bergman and The Mike Curb Congregation sang it -- "I Was Born in Love With You" -- on the "air" label soundtrack album.  A very, very lush score that got nothing but contempt from one Mr. Page Cook.

I've classified it as one of my major guilty pleasures in film music.
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 06, 2004, 09:22:17 PM
In COLORED LIGHTS, Kander and Ebb do not have nice things to say about Sinatra's take on "New York, New York." Ebb especially did not like his lyrics tampered with.
They were both gracious enough to put in print that they appreciate the "fame" and $ that Sinatra's version brought to them! - despite his changing of the lyrics.
I still prefer the Liza version and I'm not really a Liza fan either.
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Post by: MBarnum on March 06, 2004, 09:23:43 PM
BK, I think I confused you with my lack of proof-reading (I have now fixed my previous post). I was referring ot Kritzter Time as the book I want to order later this month, but didn't know when you needed to send in your pre-order.
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 06, 2004, 09:26:01 PM
... a version of "Lara's Theme"?
Done as a polka, right?
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 09:26:18 PM
I'm doing the order Monday, but I'll definitely have enough to take care of you.  I thought you hadn't read Kritzerland.
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 09:38:26 PM
Glad he is feeling better.  If you need referrals for a new vet I can check with my friends if you like.

I think I have been to the Jesuit school.  Where is it located?

Thanks, Jane. I have a new place in mind, but will let you know if it doesn't work out.

Rachel goes to the Univ. of San Francisco.
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Post by: Noel on March 06, 2004, 09:41:10 PM
Noel:  my late Uncle, the infamous leftist, was indeed called before the HUAC (in fact Martin Dies called him "the baby-faced Pinko of New York's docks," which I have always loved

...  I have his complete trial transcript from my FOIA requests.  It's a disturbing yet fascinating record (kind of like some Ray Conniff records I used to have--oh, wait, that's a different kind of record).

I'd like to see that transcript some day, JMK.
So, that brings up another question: When did the term "pinko" come into use?  Was the Dies quote from the period?
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 09:44:56 PM
The best laid plans... I got comfy an hour or so ago with two books and a magazine, looking forward to lots of great reading. Next thing I knew, an hour had passed and I woke up. Aaaargh.
I'll try again now.
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Post by: MBarnum on March 06, 2004, 09:45:13 PM
I haven't bought Kritzerland yet, but I just didn't want to miss out on the autographed copy of Kritzer Time. I will get Kritzerland later this month as well.

I am confusing aren't I.

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Post by: Michael on March 06, 2004, 09:45:14 PM
Does anyone have the LP version of the broadway cast of Flower Drum Song? I was wondering if you do can you look on the back that has the bio for Myoshi Umeki and see what tv show it says she won an emmy award for. Trying to figure it out having a discussion with DR Matt about it
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 09:46:51 PM
Pinko Lee?  Wasn't he a famous kid show host?

I turned off The Big Bounce (Bore) and am now watching  a totally fascinating film from the UK made in 1960 called All Night Long.  It's a modren day version of Othello set in a jazz club (I mean the whole film takes place in the club).  Richard Attenborough, Patrick McGoohan, Betsy Blair, Paul Harris and Keith Michell are the eclectic cast, but it's the supporting folks who make this a must-have - all playing themselves - Johnny Dankworth, Dave Brubeck, Charlie Mingus, Tubby Hayes and a plethora of Brit jazz greats all playing tunes non-stop.  The movie itself is rather silly, but when Brubeck sits down and plays It's a Raggy Waltz, well, heaven is not too strong a word.  Great black-and-white photography by Ted Scaife.  Loving it.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 09:47:56 PM
I will hold you a copy of both books, how's that?  Can't read Kritzer Time without reading Kritzerland (I mean, you can, but it won't have the same impact).
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Post by: MBarnum on March 06, 2004, 09:51:09 PM
Michael Shayne, I had that LP up until this last summer when I had my garage sale! Sorry!

I didn't know Miyoshi Umeki had won an emmy! I know she won an Oscar for her performance in Sayonara, however. Is that what you needed to know?
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Post by: Michael on March 06, 2004, 09:54:14 PM
Michael Shayne, I had that LP up until this last summer when I had my garage sale! Sorry!

I didn't know Miyoshi Umeki had won an emmy! I know she won an Oscar for her performance in Sayonara, however. Is that what you needed to know?

Need the emmy win. I think the bio also said she was the first actress to win and emmy and oscar (at that time)
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Post by: Noel on March 06, 2004, 10:01:33 PM
Oh, I wuz only funnin'.  What care I if we achieve a new low and by quite a margin, too.  I care not, it is just The Way of Things.  I've got the McGuire Sisters singing Subways are for Sleeping to assuage my bitter tears of Emmanuel Kant.

Immanuel Kant was an old piss-ant who was very rarely stable.


There.  Are we still in danger of hitting a new low?
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 10:03:46 PM
I didn't know Miyoshi Umeki won an Emmy. The only TV show that I know of on which she was a regular was THE COURTSHIP OF EDDIE'S FATHER.
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 06, 2004, 10:08:26 PM
Top female TV personality on the West coast!
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Post by: Michael on March 06, 2004, 10:08:58 PM
It might have been a local emmy award for something. Not a national one
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 06, 2004, 10:09:33 PM
That's all it says on the Album Michael.
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Post by: Michael on March 06, 2004, 10:11:44 PM
That's all it says on the Album Michael.

No mention of what show it was? Just that she won an emmy???
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 06, 2004, 10:19:17 PM
As above in post # 129 Michael.
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Post by: Michael on March 06, 2004, 10:22:25 PM
As above in post # 129 Michael.

Thanks. I missed post #129.

Now if I can only find a way to get to Australia and New zeleand using my delya sky miles!!!
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 10:24:09 PM
I just read a short story that I co-wrote which was in a mystery anthology that came out in 1984. Haven't read it in years, true -- but it was like reading something I've never seen before. A strange feeling.
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 06, 2004, 10:24:35 PM
I think "Hobittair" is up and operating but you need large eagles.
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 10:40:06 PM
What I do recall is that in conjunction with the short story and with the mystery TV show I was writing at the time, I got to do a mystery writers fashion layout in some magazine. The idea was that they took mystery writers, printed a bit of something sinister they had written and had them pose looking suitably mysterious in expensive clothing. All the other writers used were men, so I was carrying a heavy load -- representing all female mystery writers. (I have to say without false modesty that I'm better looking than Agatha Christie.) They dressed me up in a spiffy trench coat and very expensive thigh high suede boots with stiletto heels. But I was having trouble trying to look suitably mysterious just sitting there like so much fish. I needed a prop!  So I asked them to give me a cigarette in a LONG holder. As soon as I had it in my hand I became Mata Hari. Ooooh, I looked so dangerous and mysterious with my thigh high boots peeking out of my trench coat, a murderous gleam in my evil eyes.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on March 06, 2004, 10:40:54 PM
Good Evening!  -Again....

Well, I did not drink.  Instead, I played a game of pool, and ending up winning!!  Well, my team mate and I won, but I was the one who cleared off the table.  *I would have had a cocktail or two, but I knew that I was already so physically and mentally exhausted, that if I had had a drink, I probably would have ended up falling asleep downstairs in the bar.  As it is right now, I'm having a hard time keeping my eyelids open.  Thankfully, I don't fly out until 4:30, so I can sleep in, and head over to the Chattanooga Choo-Choo and pick up some souvenirs for my nieces and nephew - before I head to the airport.

As for Frank songs... I worked on a Sinatra revue a few years ago, and ended up listening to a bunch of his material from various parts of his career.  His early work simply astounded me.  Great phrasing, a clean voice, and the man could swing!  There was one song - which name I can't remember right now - but it started off with a kind of jungle-drums intro, and then went into the song proper - lots of fun.  Oh, something about the coffee trade in Brazil maybe?

 ???

Well, I need to finish up some e-mails before heading to bed...

Goodnight.
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Post by: Jenny on March 06, 2004, 10:41:07 PM
Last night, I saw a nearly unbarable production of "Sweeney Todd" at City Opera.  I am an enormous fan of "Sweeney", but this production was completely lifeless and unenjoyable.  First of all, the enormous State Theatre immediatly stripped any creepiness from the work.  There's nothing eery about an enormous and brightly lit opera house.  Rather than begining the evening with the wonderful organ solo that serves as a sort of overture, the pit simply tuned up as they would before a concert and began "The Ballad Of Sweeney Todd", which was sung by a chorus of weak singers whose vibrattos threw one another off pitch.  The audience couldn't help but be distracted by the multi-colored pieces of tape all over the floor of the stage and the enormous supertitles being projected above the performers, both of which detracted from my enjoyment of the show (Call me a shallow audience member!).  Then we were introduced to Timothy Nolen as Sweeney.  Clearly a talented singer, Nolen filled the theatre with his beautiful bass, but didn't do much else.  His acting was wooden, if not non-existant, and he tried to match the tone of his speaking voice with his singing voice, causing his dialogue to sound completely unnatural and forced.  He, along with many members of the cast, sang at one dynamic for the entire performance, without any variation whatsoever.  Elaine Paige's Mrs. Lovett was fine, but she had a tendency to slow the tempo of her solos and muck up the lyrics, which you really can't do when the lyrics are being projected above your head!  She also seemed to be channelling Patti LuPone all evening, saying certain lines exactly the way Ms. LuPone did when she played the role.  Scott Hogsed (A young man with a rather unfortunate name) was a travesty as Anthony.  He sang as well as spoke with a thick Italian accent, making him comletely unbelievable and unpleasant to watch.  Some much needed acting ability was brought to the cast by Judy Blazer as the Beggar Woman, who was both subtle and incredibly moving when necessary.  Tonna Miller sang the role of Johanna beautifully, even though she was the only singer who you needed supertitles to be able to understand.  Walter Charles was a fine Turpin, though he delivered one line in a New York accent, which was completely out of character.  Strangely, though they included Turpin's "Johanna", the scene where he proposes to Johanna was cut.  Regardless, Charles played the role very nicely.  The true highlight of the evening, though, was Keith Jameson as Tobias.  Not only does he have a gorgeous voice, but he's a fine actor who suited his role.  The staging, which is almost an exact replica of Prince's original direction, is completely boring.  In my estimation, most people who will see this production are already familiar with "Sweeney Todd".  If that is the case, why show them the same production they've seen before?  I've seen this staging performed many times and, frankly, I'm sick of it.  Also, the original lighting does not work in the State Theatre because it's far too big and bright and it almost gives an air of cheeriness that is completely inappropriate.   I was especially disapointed by the "Epiphany", which is one of my favorite moments in the score.  Nolen seemed to be preserving his voice, so he over-compensated for his vocal reserve by thrashing about the stage and rolling on the floor.  I'd much rather hear my Sweeney spitting out the syllables passionatly than hear him singing them in the same lovely, lilting fashion with which he might sing "Oh, What A Beautiful Morning".  I enjoyed a recent high school production of "Sweeney Todd" more thoroughly than I enjoyed this production because, though the young singers could hardly handle the score, they could at least act!  This piece seemed dead and unexciting last night at City Opera.  I was incredibly disapointed.

...That being said, I'll be seeing it again on the 27th because I already have tickets.  ::)
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: Jenny link=board=4;threadid=200;start=msg31418#msg31418[quote

...That being said, I'll be seeing it again on the 27th because I already have tickets.  ::)

Ouch. Why not give them away? That way you don't have to suffer through it again and somebody else at least gets a chance to see a production of SWEENEY TODD.
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Post by: Jenny on March 06, 2004, 10:53:56 PM
Ouch. Why not give them away? That way you don't have to suffer through it again and somebody else at least gets a chance to see a production of SWEENEY TODD.

I might.

I will add, though, that they were selling the most adorable t-shirts in the lobby!  One (hot pink) that says "Mrs. Lovett's Meat Pies: We'll serve anyone!" and another (beige) that says "Sweeney Todd's Tonsorial Parlor: The closest shave in town!".  Very cute.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 10:54:36 PM
Jenny, you are frighteningly bright.  I stay away from Sweeney Todd because I don't want anything soiling my memory of the Broadway production with the ONLY and BEST Sweeney, Len Cariou.  The only other times I've seen it were out here in LA just before they taped it (very disappointing, as the set was scaled down, and George Hearn didn't do it for me, and Angela was already a caricature, which she wasn't on Broadway) and then that concert thing with Hearn and Lupone, which I loathed.  

If Sweeney can't rise from the grave at the end of The Ballad of Sweeney Todd,  then I don't want to see it.
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Post by: Jenny on March 06, 2004, 11:02:52 PM
Jenny, you are frighteningly bright.

Why, thank you!  :)

If Sweeney can't rise from the grave at the end of The Ballad of Sweeney Todd,  then I don't want to see it.

Ah!  There's the one difference between the original staging and the City Opera staging!  Instead of rising out of a grave, Sweeney simply got up off of the floor, which doesn't have nearly the same effect.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on March 06, 2004, 11:10:39 PM
Thanks for your review Jenny.  I was toying with seeing Sweeney Todd when I'm up in New York next week, but your review mentioned the major reason I was hesitant about seeing this production - the State Theater.  I know it was supposedly designed as a dance space, but, still...  ???

However, do you happen to know if Keith Jameson is listed as singing all the performances?  I worked with Keith many years ago when was still a baritone(!), and his name was Keith Richard (!!! - which he changed for obvious reasons).  Great guy.  And I also worked with Walter Charles too when he did Judge Turpin at the Kennedy Center two years ago - wow! - two years already!  *I would have loved to see him as Sweeney - he covered both Cariou and Hearn at various points during the Broadway run and the tour.  And another great guy.   -And his stories of the original cast of Sweeney are priceless!

*And there was also a great article in one of the papers on Mark Delavan and his preparation for the role of Sweeney - I wonder if he's in next week at all.  Hmm....

In any case, I'll most likely try catching Avenue Q again, and/or Wicked and/or Wonderful Town.  But I'll most likely be spending my post-rehearsal hours catching up with friends and talking with them about the possibility of moving up there in June.  We'll see...

OK... My bedtime was about an hour ago...  Alas...

Goodnight.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on March 06, 2004, 11:12:06 PM
Rather, I should have said....

And again... A Goodnight.
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Post by: Panni on March 06, 2004, 11:14:12 PM
I'm afraid I shan't be a late night denizen ce soir. (Although it's pretty late now - so I'll amend that to a "later" night denizen.) I'm not sleepy, but sitting at the computer is not going to help me get sleepy, is it?
So, good night, my friends.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:14:52 PM
When Sweeney was done here in LA (the tour) the set was but a pale shadow of what it was on Broadway, and the grave was gone.  The chorus all got in a circle while screeching "Sweeney, Sweeney, Sweeney" and then he was just there.  On Broadway, it's one of the great entrances of all time.  Before the show, there are two gravediggers digging earth out of a hole on stage, and then, at the end of the number up he comes from that grave.  Then, at the end of the show, both he and Mrs. Lovett come up from the grave.  
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:15:37 PM
Dear reader Panni is a Wussburger.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:15:55 PM
I, on the other hand, am NOT a Wussburger.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:16:28 PM
I am Man - hear me roar in numbers to big to ignore.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:17:10 PM
Jenny must read the Kritzer books, mustn't she?  MUSTN'T SHE?
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:17:25 PM
What am I, a posting frenzy all of a sudden?
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:18:27 PM
I am my own frenzy.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:18:50 PM
BK's Frenzy.  Which isn't the same as Alfred Hitchcock's Frenzy.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:19:06 PM
Panni is a Wussburger.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:19:47 PM
I feel like eating onion dip.  

You see, this is what happens when you watch a movie with jazz in it.  You start riffing or, at the very least, you start bernardoing.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:20:18 PM
I am getting really sick of the sight of my picture, that much I can tell you.
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Post by: Jenny on March 06, 2004, 11:23:43 PM
However, do you happen to know if Keith Jameson is listed as singing all the performances?  I worked with Keith many years ago when was still a baritone(!), and his name was Keith Richard (!!! - which he changed for obvious reasons).  Great guy.  And I also worked with Walter Charles too when he did Judge Turpin at the Kennedy Center two years ago - wow! - two years already!  *I would have loved to see him as Sweeney - he covered both Cariou and Hearn at various points during the Broadway run and the tour.  And another great guy.   -And his stories of the original cast of Sweeney are priceless!

Both Jameson and Charles will be singing all performances and, sadly, Delevan will be singing very few.  

When Sweeney was done here in LA (the tour) the set was but a pale shadow of what it was on Broadway, and the grave was gone.  The chorus all got in a circle while screeching "Sweeney, Sweeney, Sweeney" and then he was just there.  On Broadway, it's one of the great entrances of all time.  Before the show, there are two gravediggers digging earth out of a hole on stage, and then, at the end of the number up he comes from that grave.  Then, at the end of the show, both he and Mrs. Lovett come up from the grave.  

In that case, maybe every production I've seen has been modeled after the tour and not the original production.  I assumed that the Lansbury/Hearn video (Which I have seen replicated onstage many times) was almost identical to the original Broadway production, but it seems as though that's not the case.  

Did anybody get the chance to see New Repertory Theatre in Boston's production of "Sweeney" last season?  Gorgeous, creepy, perfect production.

BK, you are very right that Jenny must read the Kritzer books.  Jenny should really get around to ordering them.
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Post by: Jenny on March 06, 2004, 11:26:17 PM
I am getting really sick of the sight of my picture, that much I can tell you.

I'm not!  It's lovely!  If you change your picture, though, perhaps you ought to replace it with one of you in a pointy hat and pantaloons?  That might be festive.  

Hm...now I want onion dip.  Damn you!

Panni truly is a Wussburger.  If little fifteen year old me can be a late night denizen, then so can she!  And I'm on the east coast!

...You know you're tired when you start riffing on others' riffs.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:34:54 PM
Let's stay all night and riff 'em all.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:35:26 PM
C'mon Pogue, join in the merriment and mirth and laughter and legs.  Otherwise, I shall put on Dragonheart and start quoting the dialogue.
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Post by: bk on March 06, 2004, 11:36:26 PM
And Jenny, as you will see in tomorrow's notes, we're having our Unseemly Live Chat tomorrow at six CA time, so you must come to the chat room and join in the fun.
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Post by: Jay on March 06, 2004, 11:48:19 PM
Does anyone have the LP version of the broadway cast of Flower Drum Song? I was wondering if you do can you look on the back that has the bio for Myoshi Umeki and see what tv show it says she won an emmy award for. Trying to figure it out having a discussion with DR Matt about it


And I quote:

"...she received the Emmy Award as the top female television personality on the West Coast."

No mention of any specific TV show, but the bio does note that she won the Academy Award for Sayonara that same year, and that no one had ever won both an Oscar and an Emmy in the same year before.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 06, 2004, 11:48:46 PM
I just finished watching RUNAWAY JURY which I like a lot.  Just a good old fashioned movie movie...a well-made play.  Debating whether to stay up and watch SECOND-HAND LIONS, written and directed by my pal Tim McCanlies and produced by my friend David Kirschner.  I really admire Tim because after he and spent a year in the cell blocks in the Writer's Building at Disney.  He took off for Texas and has just lived and worked there and wrote and finally directed a little film he had being dying to do for ten years and now he's done this one.  Basically told Hollywood to go take a flying hike and has done it his way.

I hate this idea that my Dragonheart  film is now part of twofer package with that kiddie direct-to-video sequel.  They also did this with the THE FLY, putting it out with that bad sequel.  Blecch!
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Post by: Jay on March 06, 2004, 11:56:58 PM
And I quote:

"...she received the Emmy Award as the top female television personality on the West Coast."

No mention of any specific TV show, but the bio does note that she won the Academy Award for Sayonara that same year, and that no one had ever won both an Oscar and an Emmy in the same year before.

DR Tomovoz beat me to the punch.
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Post by: bk on March 07, 2004, 12:00:28 AM
And now there's no more punch.  Man.