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Title: TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: bk on March 11, 2004, 12:01:04 AM: Well, you've read the notes, and given that they are about time - the bitch goddess - isn't it high time you were posting? Yes, the time is nigh, do you hear me? Time waits for no man, so perhaps the women should start posting first?
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 11, 2004, 12:18:13 AM: Not really a fan of film comedies these days. I still have no problem laughing at the favourites of my childhood though - Danny Kaye and Jerry Lewis. I also loved the "Carry On" gang - dreadful jokes and lines but perfect timing. Peter Sellers at his best would be my favourite. I have never seen anything funny in The Blues Brothers. Gene Wilder has given me laughter at times but probably not since his early films. Lili Tomlin would be my favourite funny lady. The last comedienne to really make me laugh was Ellen DeGeneres in "Finding Nemo". Almost forgot - Jacques Tati - brilliant.
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Post by: Jed on March 11, 2004, 12:21:46 AM: Film comedians, eh? I do like Steve Martin, just not so much his more recent stuff. Favorites would be The Jerk and L.A. Story. Also Woody Allen, of course, with Mighty Aphrodite being a favorite there, along with the standards like Annie Hall and Sleeper. On the female side, I simply adore anything that Madeline Kahn did. Such a funny, funny lady!
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Post by: Michael on March 11, 2004, 12:38:07 AM: Mr. Laurel
Mr. Hardy
The Tramp
The Stoneface

Alec Guiness
Peter Sellars
The Carry On Gang
Monty Python
Lily Tomlin (Glenda Child of the 60's is a brilliant routine)
The Kids Down the Hall (the most recent comedians)
Danny Kaye
Mel Brooks and Carl Reiner on their recordings. Mel Brooks for The Producers, Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein

and stand ups
Lenny Bruce
Jackie Mason
Mort Sahl
Bill Cosby
Nichols and May
Tom Lehr (Love him Love him)
Joan Rivers (before she became her own worst enemy)

I never got Jerry Lewis. DR Francois I know you don't post anymore but perhaps you can explain why the country holds him such high esteme. I just don't find him funny.

and Mr. Bruce Kimmel still makes me laugh when I watch The First Nudie Musical
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Post by: Michael on March 11, 2004, 12:48:29 AM: I believe that the stars of many of the hit so called comedies in the last 20 years will be forgotten or be museum pieces. All the stars listed above will endure because they did not play to the lowest common denominator. The above people had played to (in the most part) children to adults and not horny teenagers.

Charlie Chaplin, Laurel Hardy, Buster Keaton can still make me laugh and some of the films are over 80 years old. Can one say that the films of Ashton Kutcher will be funny 80 years later?

My short rant
Title: Re:TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 01:24:52 AM: DEMISE OF THE BITCH GODDESS

(http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lg6923.jpg)

Someone left the time out in the rain
I think that I shall mind it
'cause it took so long to wind it
And I'll never have that energy again
Oh, no!

der Brucer (Yes, I'm keeping the day job)
Title: Re:TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 01:32:04 AM: Quote from: Michael Shayne on March 11, 2004, 12:38:07 AM
Tom Lehr (Love him Love him)

"Oh, soon we'll be out amid the cold world's strife.
Soon we'll be sliding down the razor blade of life. "

der Brucer (PS: It's Leher)

PPS: NO it ain't - see 6000 mile away correction below.
Title: Re:TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: Tomovoz on March 11, 2004, 01:43:48 AM: And there I was thinking it was "LEHRER"!
Title: Re:TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 01:56:10 AM: Quote from: Tomovoz on March 11, 2004, 01:43:48 AM
And there I was thinking it was "LEHRER"!

And you were thinking right! I missed-named my Word file that has all of his lyrics and picked up the screw-up from there.

der Brucer (thinking he should pull a BK: go back and edit the post, then post a "I don't know what you mean" comment to Tom's post)
Title: Re:TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 02:12:27 AM: Favorites:

From early youth: Abbot & Costello

From Later Youth: Martin and Lewis

From Adult Years: Carol Burnett (with the essential assistance of Tim Conway, Harvey Korman and Vicki Lawrence)

(Although one of her funniest sketchs was from either Carol & Company in 1990 or the Carol Burnett Show in 1991 when she was a grocery store customer and Richard Kind was the check-out clerk.)

From Second Childhood: The South Park crowd

der Brucer (who would vote for "Barefoot in the Park" as the funniest movie-ever: Mildred Natwick has one of the best entrances in history)
Title: Re:TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 02:31:22 AM: News Flash From OZ (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,113858,00.html):

Lawmaker Threatens to Take Fun Out of Australian Politics

SYDNEY, Australia (AP) — Instead of engaging in sober debate, politicians in Australia's oldest legislature have been accused of drinking too much and drafting laws with slurred speech and red noses.

Lee Rhiannon of the minority Greens Party says some members of the New South Wales (search) state Parliament are obviously under the influence of alcohol when they return to its debating chamber after taking breaks.

"After dinner ... things get a bit raucous," The Sydney Morning Herald Wednesday quoted Rhiannon as saying.
The august institution, set up in Sydney in 1822, has two restaurants and a bar as well as its own liquor store.

der Brucer (pleased that none of our politicians have a drinking problem!)
Title: Re:TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: elmore3003 on March 11, 2004, 02:59:27 AM: Good morning! I can't shake off these lines this morning:

Time and tide and trouble
Never ever wait
Let the cauldron bubble
Justify your fate

Thank you, sirs Kimmel and Coward, for too early imagery!

Comedians:
1. Buster Keaton
2. Bob Hope (the only film of Martin-Lewis is really like is SCARED STIFF, a remake of GHOST BREAKERS; when do we get CAT AND THE CANARY on DVD?)
3. Abbott and Costello
4. The Marx Brothers (this has to include Margaret Dumont)
5. Red Skelton
6. Lucille Ball
7. Ed Wynn
8. Whoopi Goldberg

Two hit-or-miss-groups: The Little Rascals and The Three Stooges, but when they're on . . .

Other faves, although I consider them more actresses than comediennes
1. Madeline Kahn (I once worked with her; very interesting lady)
2. Edna Mae Oliver
3. Lily Tomlin (after NASHVILLE I refuse to think of her as a comedienne)
4. Barbara Harris
Title: Re:TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: Jenny on March 11, 2004, 04:12:50 AM: Off I go on yet another class trip, but this one should be significantly more enjoyable than the other. My Shakespeare class (A class I take with all those senior friends of mine) is going to see "King Lear" at Yale Drama. I expect a fine day ahead of me. :)

Thank you all again for the incredibly kind comments you made the other night. You're all absolutely wonderful.

Yesterday, JoeSPiano said:
"And DR Jenny - It's kind of funny that your field trip today was to the Irish Famine Memorial... I had never heard of it before I read about it in this month's "Gourmet" magazine - which is about all things New York City! In any case, I added the memorial to my "list", and I will try to get down there when I'm up there this weekend. "

Despite my own experience there, it's an incredibly interesting memorial that I doubt is frequently visited. The memorial itself is supposed to commemorate the Irish famine, and it truly does a shoddy job of that, but instead it makes a very interesting statement on progress, immigration, and the economy. It's also less than a block away from Ground Zero. I definitely suggest stopping by.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on March 11, 2004, 05:32:45 AM: Comedians? Here are the first names that spring to mind.

Mel Brooks
Danny Kaye
Charlie Chaplin
Leslie Nielsen
Groucho Marks

Judy Holliday
Elaine May (the nightgown seen in A New Leaf)
Madeline Kahn
Cloris Leachman
Rosalind Russell
Joan Davis
Title: Re:TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on March 11, 2004, 05:34:45 AM: Quote from: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 02:12:27 AM
Mildred Natwick [Barefoot in the Park] has one of the best entrances in history.

I agree. I started laughing just thinking about it.
Title: Re:TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: Ben on March 11, 2004, 05:43:15 AM: My, what a wonderful and moving group of posts from last night. As another outsider (albeit one who LOVED school and used it as an escape from other parts of my life) I can understand so much of what was written yesterday. I was lucky in that my suburban high school was big enough (my graduating class alone had over 600 students) that I didn't run into the difficult people too often and I always had my theatre to fall back on. It was my other escape. I didn't realize it at the time, but as years went on I began to understand how my donning different characters and playing parts allowed me an escape from myself during difficult times. And some of those performances even earned me a grudging respect from people who might otherwise had punched me out in the locker room. I'm happy with myself and who I've become over the years so, as many of you said last night, it does get better. It may take a while, but it can happen.
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Post by: Ben on March 11, 2004, 05:59:33 AM: I saw Wicked on Tuesday and really enjoyed it. Kristin Chenowith and Idina Menzel are wonderful, Menzel especially. I love the work Kristin does. She's a comic gem and the audience eats her up. They adore her. Popular is a huge success. To use an old saw, she could read the phone book and be funny. But the amazing work done by IM is beautiful and sustained and grounded (I hate that word) in something so real. Defying Gravity is such a wonderful number for her. I think, after seeing Donna Murphy in Wonderful Town and Ms. Chenowith and IM, that Menzel has a very good chance at the Tony this year. The score is, IMHO, good, not great. Popular and Defying Gravity are excellent numbers performed wonderfully, but on the whole, I think the score is the weakest part of the show. I read the book and adored it so I wondered how they would make it a musical theatre piece. The changes they made to be able to put the piece on stage, I think, were necessary and good. The empathy (talking about outcasts again) and caring for Elphaba is still there, although I did miss some of the more intense moments between Elphie and Fiyero and the changes made at the end help to bring out the honestly good side of Glinda. I would like to see the show again from the Orchestra (I was in the upper reaches of the Gershwin, another barn-like theatre) so I can see things without the aid of binoculars but that will take a while since the show is not at the half-price booth yet and the entire orchestra is either $100 or $90. Yikes!

Jose, thanks for the Barbara Cook quote. I think DR Kerry still uses it on his profile. It's such a lovely piece and holds such meaning for many of us at this site.

Well, back to work. Robert Wood Johnson calls.
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Post by: td on March 11, 2004, 06:14:28 AM: Quote
TD: I just sent the transcribed lyrics to "The Last Great Waltz" to der Brucer. Hopefully he'll be sending them your way as well, in some form.

Jennifer's singing on the song is exactly right. As is her timing!

And now everyone else is going to be wondering "What the fu.....?"

Ah, let 'em wonder! I was going to 'splain, but careful note readers will remember the conversation from last week regarding song interpreters.
I'm looking forward to those lyrics; I've even had my mom & pop record shop put out an APB on that Mason Williams album, since I had no luck Kazaa-wise. Strange, but Kazaa is where I found all of my Tom Lehrer songs. . . .

TOD:
Chaplin - I recently saw A KING IN NEW YORK and liked it, too. For interested parties, Ms. Shani Wallis appears in this film.
Keaton - both Diane and Buster.
Judy Holiday
Katharine Hepburn - I know, her comedies were few and far between, but she was cherce.
Streisand in WHAT'S UP DOC, THE OWL AND THE PUSSYCAT and ALL NIGHT LONG
Barbara Harris in NASHVILLE, OH DAD POOR DAD and WHO IS HARRY KELLERMAN.
Harold Lloyd - love THE FRESHMAN
Jerry Lewis in THE NUTTY PROFESSOR and WAY WAY OUT, to a lesser degree 3 ON A MATCH.
Gracie Allen - tops in my book. Does anyone remember a George Burns special where Bernadette Peters did a remarkable Gracie with George? The did a routine about Gracie's day at the return counter of a department store. . .
and of course, I love LUCY.
Title: Re:TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: William E. Lurie on March 11, 2004, 06:20:18 AM: I think film comics are only as good as the screenplays they have to work with. Jerry Lewis, for example, is very funny in some of his films but not funny at all in others. Actually, I prefer actors who do comic roles. Leslie Nielsen in the AIRPLANE films is funnier than many so-called "comics".
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Post by: Noel on March 11, 2004, 06:39:39 AM: The page, yesterday, that contained the posts by Emily (meeting the Secretary General) and Jenny in Battery Park, was unbelievably compelling, just the sort of thing I tune in to HHW for. Did anyone else notice the irony in Jenny's stating that her post wasn't eloquent? My foot, it wasn't!

Writing this means I'll be late for work, as I must leave by 9:30. Schoolmates ridiculed me mercilessly every day of elementary and high school. Eventually, I got so tired of not being invited any place, I started inviting people over myself. That improved the situation.

But I was spat upon, bullied, punched, called "faggot" and ostracized for a variety of sins, including getting A's, wearing green pants and being from New York. I believed, as a child, and as a teen, that young people are cruel.

Jenny may not have a friend in her class at school, but she has plenty here (some in New York, even).
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Post by: Jennifer on March 11, 2004, 06:40:43 AM: Hey everyone!

DR MBarnum: I'm back now.

DR George: Sorry about your loss.

DR WFO: Your posts made me cry. I'm so sorry for all you are going through.

DR Jenny: Your posts also made me terribly sad. It is unbelievable to me how people can act that way. I think what Panni said about them being jealous is probably correct. But I think it's also that you are just so totally different from them (in a GOOD WAY). You come across as intellectual, kind and mature beyond your years. And they just want to act like immature spoiled brats. Be strong, and thankfully you don't often have to do things just with these people.

And re: American Idol: I hated it.

I was so mad that they cut the 4 on Tuesday. I was happy that John Peter Lewis was the fan choice.

I hate that the judges got to choose 3 to go through. I wonder how it works. Do they get to see who America chose? And then the judges discuss it? Or do they simply do it the way it was done on the show. One judge goes first and picks whoever they want, and then the next one chooses from there?

Me, I would be second-guessing the other judges to try to get all my favorites in! (for example Simon would have picked Jennifer Hudson, so why did randy choose her?).
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Post by: PennyO on March 11, 2004, 07:20:51 AM: WFO- so sorry for your loss. No solace, probably, in reading this, but Community is where we get through this stuff alone. Solo journeys, all, but it sure is nice to have traveling companions.

BK - I reviewed yer book on bn.com

Funny:
the Marx Bros, of course.
The scene in The Man Who Loved Women, with Burt locked in the closet with the dog and the superglue, and all the rest of that sequence. I laughed so hard I hurt myself.
I was in love with Jerry Lewis as a kid.
Meryl Streep in Postcards made me howl.
The Marx Bros, minus Zeppo.
Early Woody A.
Kevin Kline in Soapdish.
My Favorite Year.
Bill Murray with whatsisname who directed Groundhog Day... what's his name??? more coffee is needed before I proceed. Jeez, what's his name?
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Post by: MBarnum on March 11, 2004, 07:21:49 AM: Welcome back Jennifer!

Jenny, my early high school years were not particularly happy years for me either...and like you I had no friends in my class, all of my good friends were in grades above or below me. Once I got involved with theater things began to look up and I found people I could identify with, but I was a scrawny 99 lb. weakling back then and got picked on a lot. I was also quite shy. Actually I was probably picked on more because I was shy then for being 99lbs.

Things will get better. My life is so different now, and yours will be too someday! Just be sure to also focus on the positive things in your life. Your health, your friends, and all the things that make you happy....particularly remember that high school will be over with some day soon! LOL!
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Post by: MBarnum on March 11, 2004, 07:27:18 AM: Funny movie poeple:

Arthur Lake and Penny Singleton
Abbott and Costello
Edna Mae Oliver
W.C Fields
(the early) Little Rascals
The Three Stooges (all of them)
Harold Lloyd
Jerry Lewis (sometimes)
Steve Martin
Ellen DeGeneres
Eve Arden
Marx Bros.
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Post by: Matt H. on March 11, 2004, 07:36:40 AM: The only "modern" comedians that I like on any regular basis are Steve Martin (especially in ALL OF ME) and Woody Allen in many of his films.

All my other favorites are from long ago, and as others have said, they stand the test of time marvelously:

Charlie Chaplin
Buster Keaton
W.C. Fields
The Marx Bros.
Mae West
Betty Hutton
Judy Holliday
Madeline Kahn
Title: Re:TIME - THE BITCH GODDESS
Post by: Matt H. on March 11, 2004, 07:43:33 AM: First, wasn't Leah Labelle's reprise of her song excruciating last night! I honestly had to hold my ears it was so terribly offkey, off rhythm, and unpleasant. She has to be the worst singer ever to go through to the finals.

DR Ron was right. I will be shocked if the final two aren't Latoya and Fantasia. Of course, over the course of weeks, people can improve dramatically with the daily rehearsals and vocal assistance from professionals. Perhaps one of the others will be able to surprise us.

I bought used the American Idol Season 2 - World's Greatest Love Songs CD and have been playing it this week. On record, every one of the finalists had a pleasing, ingratiating sound. Don't know how much studio manipulation it took for them to achieve this since many of these sang offkey live last year under the pressure of TV lights, cameras, and a huge nationwide audience. But on the basis of just those songs, any one of last year's finalists is easily better than all but maybe three of this year's. Amazing.

A final note about Ruben Studdard's performance last night: uncertain pitch, cracked or unreached high notes, and a total lack of stage charisma. Maybe these finalists aren't so horrible after all.
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 07:55:16 AM: Good morning. Has anyone mentioned Carole Lombard yet? And Jack Benny in TO BE OR NOT TO BE.
Many faves have already been mentioned several times, so I'll list some that haven't... Doris Day and Rock Hudson.
Cary Grant - one of THE best screen comedians. Made the tight rope walk of romatic leading man and comic look easy.
It's twue she's been mentioned, but Madeline Khan makes me laugh from the gut.
John Cleese (A FISH CALLED WANDA. And although it's TV - FAWLTY TOWERS)
The Keaton twins - Diane and Buster
Danny Faye, Bob Hope, Harold Llloyd, Laurel and Hardy (to this day I think of them as "Stan es Pan" which is how they are known in Hungary)
That's it for now. More later, perhaps.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 11, 2004, 08:19:48 AM: Quote from: Ben on March 11, 2004, 05:59:33 AM
I saw Wicked on Tuesday and really enjoyed it. Kristin Chenowith and Idina Menzel are wonderful, Menzel especially. I love the work Kristin does. She's a comic gem and the audience eats her up. They adore her. Popular is a huge success. To use an old saw, she could read the phone book and be funny. But the amazing work done by IM is beautiful and sustained and grounded (I hate that word) in something so real. Defying Gravity is such a wonderful number for her. I think, after seeing Donna Murphy in Wonderful Town and Ms. Chenowith and IM, that Menzel has a very good chance at the Tony this year. The score is, IMHO, good, not great. Popular and Defying Gravity are excellent numbers performed wonderfully, but on the whole, I think the score is the weakest part of the show. I read the book and adored it so I wondered how they would make it a musical theatre piece. The changes they made to be able to put the piece on stage, I think, were necessary and good.

I'm sincerely glad you enjoyed it. I think you'll find, over time, that "The Wizard and I", "I'm Not That Girl," "I Hope You're Happy" and "For Good" will be the songs you most often listen to.

"I wasn't born to the rose and the pearl....he could be that boy....but I'm not that girl."

And "For Good" breaks my heart every time I hear it!
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Post by: bk on March 11, 2004, 08:48:54 AM: Good comedy choices, thus far. I agree about Mildred Natwick's entrance in Barefoot in the Park - such huge laughs in the theater you missed half the dialogue. She was also wonderfully funny in The Court Jester, which is my favorite Danny Kaye film. I am a huge Chaplin fan, a Keaton fan, a Harold Lloyd fan, a Marx Bros. fan, a Jack Benny fan (especially To Be or Not To Be), and so many others.
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Post by: Matt H. on March 11, 2004, 08:54:03 AM: I didn't mention my favorite film performances of my choices:

Chaplin - I think for hilarity, THE CIRCUS. (CITY LIGHTS is a more affecting dramatic and comedy performance inside a masterpiece)

Keaton - SHERLOCK, JR.

W.C. Fields - IT'S A GIFT

Marx Bros. - HORSE FEATHERS

Mae West - I'M NO ANGEL

Betty Hutton - DREAM GIRL

Judy Holliday - THE SOLID GOLD CADILLAC

Madeline Kahn - WHAT'S UP, DOC?
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Post by: TCB on March 11, 2004, 08:56:14 AM: Quote from: Panni on March 11, 2004, 07:55:16 AM
Good morning. Has anyone mentioned Carole Lombard yet? And Jack Benny in TO BE OR NOT TO BE.
Many faves have already been mentioned several times, so I'll list some that haven't... Doris Day and Rock Hudson.
Cary Grant - one of THE best screen comedians. Made the tight rope walk of romatic leading man and comic look easy.
It's twue she's been mentioned, but Madeline Khan makes me laugh from the gut.
John Cleese (A FISH CALLED WANDA. And although it's TV - FAWLTY TOWERS)
The Keaton twins - Diane and Buster
Danny Faye, Bob Hope, Harold Llloyd, Laurel and Hardy (to this day I think of them as "Stan es Pan" which is how they are known in Hungary)
That's it for now. More later, perhaps.

ROTFLMAO!

Panni, I know that it was probably unintentional, but Danny Faye gave me the biggest laugh I have had all week.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 09:25:03 AM: Quote from: PennyO on March 11, 2004, 07:20:51 AM

BK - I reviewed yer book on bn.com

Bill Murray with whatsisname who directed Groundhog Day... what's his name??? more coffee is needed before I proceed. Jeez, what's his name?

Howard Ramis (Animal House, Caddyshack, Ghostbusters)

der Brucer (I'm just a fact checker - a Joan of Arcadia reference)
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 09:26:29 AM: Quote from: TCB on March 11, 2004, 08:56:14 AM
ROTFLMAO!

Panni, I know that it was probably unintentional, but Danny Faye gave me the biggest laugh I have had all week.

Ooops (Spoo)... Well, it made you laugh, TCB. And dear old Dr. Freud is happy. So it's a win-win situation.
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Post by: Jane on March 11, 2004, 09:32:21 AM: JoseSPiano your post to Jenny was wonderful.

Dan (the Man), recovering outsider-LOL

I think most insiders in high school felt like outsiders. After our 20th high school reunion Keith & I sat in the lobby of the hotel talking with a few fellow graduates. One of these women was very popular, smart, attractive, and always seemed so sure of her self in high school. I found out she had been very insecure and didn’t view herself the way others had. At the 30th reunion I began asking other popular women how they had felt. My questions led me to some wonderful conversations and I walked away thinking, “if only I had known”. I discovered very few of those “happy, insecure” gals had felt that way themselves. I also made some new friends.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 09:33:47 AM: I love the Marx Bros. And no one was funnier than early Bob Hope, he paled in those sixties duds like CALL ME BWANA and ilk, but during the thirties and forties, he was top of the game.

I think it may be time for a W.C. Fields retrospective for me to see if he is still as funny as I remember him...
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 09:40:10 AM: Quote from: Matt H. on March 11, 2004, 08:54:03 AM

Judy Holliday - THE SOLID GOLD CADILLAC

What - no BORN YESTERSAY?

der Brucer (who counts being an avid Duplicate Bridge player amongst the many Follies of his Youth - always quietly chuckling to myself whenever some blue-haired bridge doyen started rearranging her hand)

PS: Speaking of funny scenes and body parts: Gene Wilder stabbing himself with the scalpel in Young Frankenwhositz.

PPS: Speaking of Franken stuff - how do we give a nod to "Frankenweenie" (with Spohia Coppola no less)

(http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/07/25/80m.jpg)

I guess we give Burton the nod for Story/Director.
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Post by: Matt H. on March 11, 2004, 09:47:26 AM: No doubt she's excellent in BORN YESTERDAY, but it's a little too studied a performance for me, I guess the results of doing so many performances of it on stage.

Her character Laura Partridge in CADILLAC is one of the great comic performances, I think.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 10:02:49 AM: Quote from: PennyO on March 11, 2004, 07:20:51 AM

BK - I reviewed yer book on bn.com

Since Penny is shy to toot her own horn, herewith the review:
(http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=54IRBWSVLT&sourceid=00393694017345739190&bfdate=03%2D11%2D2004+12%3A42%3A58&isbn=1414054173&itm=4)
(http://a1204.g.akamai.net/7/1204/1401/04030513011/images.barnesandnoble.com/images/7480000/7480332.jpg)

A reviewer, a reader from Southern California, March 11, 2004,

Comedy is hard

Bruce Kimmel has come into his full power as a writer. The two Kritzer books that lead to this one showed his mastery of language, his infallible comic timing, his willingness to fully and honestly flesh out his characters - now all the preparation inherent in the writing of those first two installments of the Kritzer trilogy has come to full bloom in this surprising finale. The concerns, joys, troubles, the whole magic world of the child Benjamin evaporate away as this Benjamin experiences his unavoidable Fall from Grace. In his expulsion from Eden, we all lose our innocence.

Also recommended: Jewish Thighs on Broadway by Penny Orloff

der copywrite-infringing Brucer

Hmmm... after reading the last line above, maybe I should retract my "too shy to toot" comment ;)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 10:07:26 AM: Quote from: Matt H. on March 11, 2004, 09:47:26 AM

Her character Laura Partridge in CADILLAC is one of the great comic performances, I think.

To mirror last evening's great tragic performance" Leah Labelle?

der Brucer (who was heard to exclaim aloud, "My G-D, she stinks!"
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Post by: Ann on March 11, 2004, 10:22:58 AM: Good morning all!
LOVE the Kritzertime cover art...very nice. I will be ordering it as soon as I get my next paycheck.
The bitch goddess tells me I need to get going to choir...have a great day everyone
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Post by: Emily on March 11, 2004, 10:23:40 AM: Good afternoon everyone!

It is absolutely bee-yoo-teee-ful outside - sunny, warmish (it's still Canada in March) and everyone seems to be happy. Maybe that last thing is less about the weather and more about the fact that this is the lucky week after most mideterms and before pre-exam stress kicks in ;)

Spring has sprung... yea!!!

DR Jenny - Rant Ahead (Be Warned)

I can honestly say that without an awful period of social-exclusion during the last two years of High School (Secondar IV an V) I would be a much different (read: worse off) person than I am now.

I spent most of my life before that being the tag-along "friend" (note the quotations) to a few very popular (read: stupid and shallow) girls. I never knew quite why they kept me around, but I guess now that it was because when they got bored they could be entertained by torturing me and watching me seemingly be happy about it. At the time I was just soooo happy to be included every once in a while in what they were doing that I would accept anything, including what I can now judge to be the most horrific of verbal and even borderline physical abuse (tying me to a tree as a "game" and then leaving me outside when they ran in to class or having a month or two when they "put" me on a diet, analysing everything I ate in their presence, because in their eyes I was "becoming a fatty" sring to mind).

Finally at one point I had enough. I cracked one day and basically had a panic attack and told them exactly what I felt like being their "friend".

They immediately shunned me - what use was I to them anymore? In a school where cliques had been formed the first year, there I was going into my last year and a half and finding myself to be a complete outcast. Being in the right didn't help. Coming up with excuses as to why I didn't want a birthday party to my parents knowing that even if I did want one, I knew no one would come, was not fun.

But that year of shunning did do something for me. It taught me how to be independent, how I couldn't always rely on other people for interacting with others. For the first time I had to make friends on my own and on my own terms. I started to ride the bus alone and be comfortable doing so. While it may sound very simple, being faced with that had previously scared me half to death.

Finally, in the last half of my final year I managed to crack into a new circle of friends (DR Andrea being just one of those in the new group).

So even if you sometimes feel awful because of the situation with the people in your grade, you should remember that the experience of being an "outsider" or a "freak" will probably make you stronger in the long run. I know it's a cliche and isn't very comforting, but I consider myself living proof of its verity.
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Post by: TCB on March 11, 2004, 10:33:00 AM: TOD

Abbott and Costello (in particular The Time of Their Lives)
The Three Stooges with Curly (all the old shorts)
The Three Stooges with Curly Joe (Have Rocket Will Travel and TTS Meet Hercules)
Danny Kaye (The Court Jester)
Gene Wilder (in almost anything)
Madeline Kahn (all of her Mel Brooks films)
Hope / Crosby/ Lamour (The Road Pictures)
Rosalind Russell (Auntie Mame, His Girl Friday)
Marilyn Monroe (Some Like It Hot, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes)
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Post by: bk on March 11, 2004, 10:40:18 AM: Thanks, PennyO. Actually, I went to barnesandnoble.com (where the book, for reasons which haven't fully been explained to me) has been available (in hardcover only) for over a week. I was surprised to see a review from someone in Chicago who already got the book. It's a lovely review, too. Maybe someone could cut and paste it in here like they did Penny's? And if someone could also post Penny's in the official Kritzer Time thread in that part of the discussion board, that would be swellegant, too.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 11:10:54 AM: Quote from: bk on March 11, 2004, 10:40:18 AM
Maybe someone could cut and paste it in here like they did Penny's? And if someone could also post Penny's in the official Kritzer Time thread in that part of the discussion board, that would be swellegant, too.

"Someone" was off easting Scrapple and Fired Eggs.
"Someone" will comply with requests.

der what-am-I-chopped liver Bucer
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Post by: Ben on March 11, 2004, 11:11:05 AM: BK'S request

"And if someone could also post Penny's in the official Kritzer Time thread in that part of the discussion board, that would be swellegant, too."

has been done.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 11:22:53 AM: Quote from: Ann on March 11, 2004, 10:22:58 AM

LOVE the Kritzertime cover art...very nice.

I wonder if BK wants "someone" to post the cover art over on the Kritzer thread?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 11, 2004, 11:35:02 AM: How much does BK pay for all this PR work?

;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: bk on March 11, 2004, 11:48:29 AM: Thanks to all for helping.

Hopefully der Brucer can get the other review up here, too.
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Post by: bk on March 11, 2004, 11:50:40 AM: Ah, he posted it on the Kritzer board. Here it is, direct from der Brucer and the Kritzer board via barnesandnoble.com.

Here is another review from B&N:

A reviewer, a reader from Chicago, March 10, 2004,

An amazing journey
I was given Benjamin Kritzer as a gift two years ago and I fell in love with him and his world. That book was funny and heartbreaking. Kritzerland was a wonderful follow-up, but nothing could have prepared me for the power of Kritzer Time (apparently the last book in the series). In Kritzer Time we follow Benjamin from thirteen to seventeen, covering the years 1960-1965. I don't want to give anything away, other than to say I laughed out loud many times, and if you are not moved to tears by the end of this book, you have a harder heart than I. Mr. Kimmel has hit a home run once again. A beautiful book.

Also recommended: Benjamin Kritzer and Kritzerland

der Someone Brucer
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Post by: MBarnum on March 11, 2004, 12:21:21 PM: DR Charles Pogue...try W.C. Fields in INTERNATIONAL HOUSE! One of his funniest IMO.
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Post by: George on March 11, 2004, 12:23:24 PM: TOPIC OF THE DAY (in alphabetical order):

Abbott and Costello
Lucille Ball
Mel Brooks
Doris Day
Judy Holliday (especially "Born Yesterday")
Bob Hope (including the Hope and Crosby movies ... and I loved the Hope/Crosby section in the Broadway revue Swinging On a Star. It was the very first show that I ever saw on Broadway)
Madeline Kahn ("What's Up, Doc?" and any Mel Brooks movie)
Danny Kaye and Mildred Natwick ("The vessel with the pestle has the brew that it true" ... or something like that)
Cloris Leachman
The Marx Brothers
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Post by: MBarnum on March 11, 2004, 12:27:16 PM: Woohoo! Two of my favorite live-action Disney films are coming to DVD in July! THE THREE LIVES OF THOMASINA and THE UGLY DACHSHUND!

Also coming soon from Warner Bros. are a special edition 2 disk set of 7 BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS.
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Post by: Jane on March 11, 2004, 12:33:04 PM: Quote from: PennyO on March 11, 2004, 07:20:51 AM
Bill Murray with whatsisname who directed Groundhog Day... what's his name??? more coffee is needed before I proceed. Jeez, what's his name?

Harold Ramis
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Post by: Jane on March 11, 2004, 12:48:25 PM: I should have known DerBrucer would have already answered Penny O’s question.

Danny Kaye
Judy Holiday
Katharine Hepburn
Cary Grant
Barbra Streisand
Jerry Lewis
Gracie Allen
The Marx Brothers
Mel Brooks
Adam Sandler
Steve Martin
Peter Sellers
Bill Murray
Betty Hutton
Barbara Stanwyck
Art Carney

Bruce the book cover looks beautiful.

Oh no, I didn’t realize it’s so late-I must get out of here.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 11, 2004, 12:52:35 PM: In addition to many already named comedians/comediennes, let me add that fantastic character actor Eric Blore who was sensational in three Astaire/Rogers musicals, not to mention other films, as well:

Shall We Dance (1937) .... Cecil Flintridge
Swing Time (1936) .... Gordon
Top Hat (1935) .... Bates

Who can forget him as Bates, Edward Everett Horton's (another fabulous comic) ultra-contrary valet, in "Top Hat"?
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Post by: TCB on March 11, 2004, 01:38:52 PM: I was going to respond to Jenny’s post last evening, but everyone else seemed to be able to express themselves so eloquently that I didn’t think I needed to say any more. However, given the night to think about it, I decided to offer up my own reflections, as well.

High school was tough for me, but I think it really started in junior high. That was where the lines were truly drawn. That was when recess became Gym class, and my lack of athletic ability became apparent to the rest of the world. Up until that time, I was just an ordinary kid, a little nerdier than some, a little more feminine than most, but basically just your everyday little boy.

But it was junior high school that separated the jocks from the jerks. Prior to that time, you were able to choose your recreational activity. There was softball, dodge ball, and basketball; as well as marbles, swings, and even hopscotch. But in junior high school, and then again in high school, it became organized sports. So, if you weren’t good at the rope climb, or at basketball, or at the hurdles; all of your fellow classmates were immediately aware of your shortcomings. And sports and athletics went a long way in establishing the pecking order in school. No one was required to excel at all sports, although those that could were elevated to god-status; but making your mark in one or two sports immediately erased any previous demerits received for greasy hair, bad skin, or hand-me-down clothing. And soon, by word-of-mouth, the accomplishments of the few and the embarrassments of the many were passed from student to student and, even, from teacher to teacher. And just in case, someone missed out on the word, there were the letterman jackets to elevate those gifted enough into the higher realm.

By the time you reached high school, the letterman jacket was as good as a crown. Even those who came from other junior high schools were immediately singled out by the ever-present jacket. Junior high letterman jackets were, of course, allowed for your first year of high school with no reduction in status. Only if you failed to letter in your chosen sport, during your sophomore year, were you then stripped of your badge of honor.

And what about the rest of us, who excelled, or at least tried in other areas, such as band or debate or drama? Well, we lettered too. But our letters were not the big bold letters given for sports, but rather smaller, softer, letters that could never be attached to a jacket. No, these were only allowed on letterman sweaters. And unlike all those old movies, jocks in our school did not wear letterman sweaters. I remember sneaking those hideous letters home and burying them in my bottom drawer for fear my mother would see them and insist on buying me a sweater. And once in my possession, I would then be expected to wear that sweater to school. Nope. No way. Never.

Even just writing about these memories makes my cheeks flush and makes the bitterness return. How did it happen that athletics came to define masculinity, while theater was the true mark of femininity? Where did that put Paul Newman, and James Dean, and Brando? Why did doing movies make you a man, and performing onstage make you a sissy? Why was the captain of the football team, who was unable to string three words together, chosen to give a graduation speech, while the captain of the debate team had to be content to have an asterisk next to name in the list of graduating seniors? And finally, why does do over two hundred theater productions count for less than one local television commercial in the eyes of those same peers?

I truly believed that time was the great equalizer. I actually thought that class, status, and family wealth would count for less and less as the years go by. Well, I went back to my reunion, but I didn’t see that many changes. Less insecurities on my part, and more insecurities on theirs, but nothing else seemed really different. The cool kids were still the cool kids, and the others, regardless of accomplishments, remained invisible. Maybe it takes longer than thirty years. Maybe it will be the big 40th reunion where we can all get togehter and be ourselves.

Jenny, if you read this, remember what everyone else said here last night and today -- you pick your friends, you keep those friends, you defend those friends; and in the end, they will be your most treasured possessions.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on March 11, 2004, 01:41:05 PM: I mentioned the 7 BRIDES DVD the other day. It will contain both the CinemaScope and the "flat" version. Apparently there are many differences in the two including some different costumes.
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Post by: Matt H. on March 11, 2004, 01:43:07 PM: Mentioning Eric Blore and Edward Everett Horton brings to mind another wonderful character comic actor who is too quickly and often forgotten - Franklin Pangborn.
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 11, 2004, 02:08:05 PM: Right now, der Brucer and I have a whole flock of birds that have settled into the trees outside our front door.

I'm not sure what to make of this, because it's a flock of vultures.

:o
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Post by: elmore3003 on March 11, 2004, 02:26:11 PM: DR Woody White, do you feel like Suzanne Pleshette or Jessica Tandy?
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Post by: bk on March 11, 2004, 02:29:17 PM: Where in tarnation IS everyone?
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 11, 2004, 02:32:40 PM: How about feeling Rod Taylor just a bit?
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Post by: Maya on March 11, 2004, 02:45:27 PM: Hey everyone!

I'm in NYC, typing this from an internet cafe on 42nd St. I just saw "The Triplets of Belleville." Really, it's one of the strangest things I've ever seen, but I really enjoyed it; it was wondrously eccentric with a style of animation that made me think of Max Fleischer collaborating with Botero. Tonight is "Sweeney Todd" at NYCO. The reviews came out today; both the "New York Times" and "New York Post" were mixed. So I'm not expecting to be blown away, but there should be some elements of the production that I will enjoy--and I'm thrilled about seeing Judy Blazer sing the Beggar Woman! Yay Judy! (Not a huge Elaine Paige fan, but it should be interesting to see if she makes her own choices or does just fall back on Patti impersonations).

I spent about 15 minutes perusing the archives from the last few days. Jenny, I hope you don't mind if I share some thoughts. (Everyone has already expressed so movingly and eloquently what it is like to be young, intelligent and an outsider).

You already know, sweetie, that we come from similar backgrounds, and so our stories are similar as well. Granted, my high school years weren't that bad (I made a small but wonderful group of friends), but early adolescence for me was pretty damn rotten. I was bookish (though hardly shy), the possessor of a dry, offbeat sense of humor and obsessed with musicals, literature and film--you can imagine that none of these traits exactly endeared me to my peers, most of whom I found vapid, shallow and just mean. I was ostracized and scorned. I didn't even feel that I lived on the same planet as these people; I wanted to live in the twenties, thirties or forties, or in another world altogether, where young people did not partake of this "flavored condom" mentality. I'm not denying the importance of sexuality, of course--but I do agree that kids are becoming sexually preoccupied/active way too early. It's scary. (But I'm going on a tangent now)

Everyone on this board, within a short time, has seen what I already know--that you are bright, brilliant, witty and everything a 15 year old girl SHOULD be. I know it's hard right now at school; but these kids ARE jealous and resentful of you, that's what it comes down to. Please don't let them get you down too much--I don't want to say you are better than them (that would make me sound just a tad elitist) but we both know what I am trying to say here. Your light is too strong to be dimmed by a bunch of ignorant teenyboppers.

It DOES get better, please believe me. I've found that the smart, outsider minority, when he/she moves into more congenial waters, begins to view the dumb, jeering majority as neglible, pitiful and not worthy of a second thought.

And on that note, tomorrow is going to rock (to use vulgar Gen-Y parlance) ;) , and I'm sure we will share some of our hijinks with you lovely people at HHW!

BK--Great review from Penny and looking forward to reading Kritzertime!
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Post by: elmore3003 on March 11, 2004, 02:46:17 PM: Feeling like him or FEELING him?
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Post by: elmore3003 on March 11, 2004, 03:04:05 PM: DR Maya, I hope you enjoy the SWEENEY TODD tonight. I enjoyed it much more than DR Jenny, and I've been thinking a bit about her reaction to the production this week.

This is a New York City Opera production in rep, most likely given a total of two-three weeks' rehearsal, and opera rehearsals are a strange event to people used to intense theatre rehearsals. The chorus is rehearsing other pieces at the same time, I'm sure all the actors wish there were more rehearsal, and we can be grateful this isn't a production like AIDA at the Met where the soprano is doing her blocking from Covent Garden and the tenor's doing what he did at La Scala because they had two hours of rehearsal with the conductor before going onstage before an audience!

I believe the persons who came off the best were the people with theatre background, and Walter Charles had the additional advantage of rehearsing the show show with the original cast and director; Arthur Masella was in charge of reproducing the Harold Prince production here, and I have no idea how much time - if any - Prince put in on this edition. Jenny saw it the first or second performance, I saw the third, and there were shakey moments. I hope to see it again before it leaves the rep to see how much more it's settled in.

Was the production as good as the original, which I saw six times with Carious and Lansbury? No. Did I think it worked at City Opera? Very much. I'm amazed they haven't made it more a part of their rep over the past 17 years or so. If they had, this production might have been a little more solid. I look forward to your thoughts.
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Post by: elmore3003 on March 11, 2004, 03:14:20 PM: I forgot to add another peculiarity of opera: double casting - two Sweeneys, 2 Anthonys, 2 Johannas - which cuts back their rehearsal time by half.

I thought the tempi at times slower, but I'm used to the cast recording's and they actually might have been faster on record than onstage, but I thought the orchestra and Jonathan's amazing orchestrations sounded superb. After the dreadful TEENY TODD, which I still believe ran only because people wanted to see this piece again and Frank Rich wanted to give Sondheim a rave, I'm glad City Opera's put it up. A show with a cast this size would never happen in New York now with that marvelous orchestration; we'dbe lucky for a string quartet.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 03:17:29 PM: Oh, go ahead, Maya, be elitest! I wear my elitism as a badge of honour and I despise that Dan Quayle (and a bunch of other rich, elitest-in-their-own-strange-way Republicans) turned it into a dirty word. Something to be ashamed of. Don't forget this country was founded by a bunch of elitest, intellectual landowners and rather remarkable men with aristocratic leanings.

But elite is how I always identified my crowd in High School. Others may have been in the "IN" crowd, but it was my crowd that knew the real score. Jenny IS better than them!

I think if you're elite, it merely means you have class...and not a part of the dross. And all those idiot kids who think if they all dress the same way, like exactly the same music, the same flavoured condoms, the same jock boys or the same vacuous cheerleader girls are part of the dross...nothing unique about them, just adopting the uniform of youth...and becoming a part of the ephemeral passing parade of the momentary current and the fleeting fashionable. Things of class last forever -- like a Cole Porter tune or a Shakespeare play.

By the by, while admittedly the tune is catchy and zippy, I've always sorta hated the message of that song, " I'm In With The In Crowd"...it seems to tout a rather shallow life-style choice.
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Post by: bk on March 11, 2004, 03:24:12 PM: I coulda had class - I coulda been a contender. I coulda been elite, not just a dirty bum, which is what I am - what am I, Marlon Brando all of a sudden?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 03:29:48 PM: By the by, Maya, I'm not overwhelmed with Elaine Page myself. I saw her in THE KING & I in London and felt she was laying back on her adored diva status and somewhat phoning it in. I don't remember the reviews as being overly enthusiastic either. She's playing Lovett? I'm not sure she can get over her image enough to really let herself go in that part.

I'm trying to remember whether I also saw her in CATS years ago. I'd have to go dig out the program.

Speaking of London Divas, I saw the wonderful Clive Rowe in an E-Bay commercial the other night. I've seen him on stage a few times and he's always been wonderful...in COMPANY at the Donmar Warehouse, as Nicely Nicely in a revial of GUYS & DOLLS at the National where he literally stopped the show and must have done a half dozen encores of the chorus. Brought people to their feet in the middle of the show, whooping and hollering. And as Mr. Big in what the lovely wife and I thought was a wonderful and funny updating of BEGGAR'S OPERA into the contemporary London Underworld called VILLAIN'S OPERA at the National...I don't think it was a hit.
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Post by: bk on March 11, 2004, 03:33:31 PM: Shouldn't that be "by the bya, Maya"?

Soon I'll be going to Mr. Grant Geissman's home environment, and we shall work all the livelong night to hopefully finish the KT CD.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 11, 2004, 03:35:44 PM: Well, MEOW, Maya and Pogue!

I love Elaine Page. I've only seen her in specials when she outsang everyone else...and became, for me, the definitive "Norma Desmond" and "Evita."

It's not like there's not a bit of "diva" in folks on this here forum, either! :)

But that's what makes us special and fun and the creme de la creme.
We are all Diva-lightful, Diva-licious and Diva-lovely.

And one or two of us are Diva-lectable, but I'm not naming names!
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Post by: elmore3003 on March 11, 2004, 03:45:08 PM: DR Charles Pogue, Elaine Paige was marvelous as Mrs Lovett. I had never seen her before in anything, and, while she was underrehearsed and went up on a couple of lyrics, it was a committed, energetic performance, not as good as Lansbury's original, but as good - if not better - than Patti Lupone in the concert broadcast, in which I found La Lupone quite wonderful. Mrs Lovett has a real workout in the Act Two opening "More Hot Pies," and Paige was excellent, very Cockney and pragmatic as a business woman and her moment in "Nothing's Gonna Harm You" when she realizes she and Sweeney have to kill Tobias was subtle and moving.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 03:46:24 PM: Quote from: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 03:17:29 PM

Things of class last forever --

Draco didn't :-[
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 03:48:07 PM: Birdie in the tree top, Birdie in the tree top...

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2407181/48063131.jpg)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 03:49:33 PM: The romantic in me says: "Eaglets"

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2407181/48063146.jpg)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on March 11, 2004, 03:52:15 PM: The realist in me says "Buzzards!"

(http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL242/891350/2407181/48063164.jpg)

der Brucer (waiting for them to peck at windows looking for "snackies"!)
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Post by: Matt H. on March 11, 2004, 03:57:15 PM: The one thing I respect about Elaine Paige is that when she did CATS, she didn't just wander on and sing "Memory" a couple of times and stand in the background the rest of the time. She actually took part in the energetic dancing, something many other Grizabellas did not do.

This morning's VARIETY review said the tempos were slowed down on "The Worst Pies in London" so she could get the words out, but basically the reviewer (I'm assuming Charles Isherwood, but I didn't pay attention to the by-line) liked her. He had major reservations about Sweeney's lack of a British accent and less-than-lunatic depiction once Sweeney loses it.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 04:00:03 PM: I've got nothing against Ms. Paige personally. She is much loved by her fans which are many and which was evident when I went to see her. I just felt the show I saw her in, she was resting on her laurels a bit...both times I saw it (Don't ask why I had to go to this thing twice, which if given my druthers, I would not have gone to it once...it was cutting into my Real British Theatre time). I've also read some things in the papers there about her. And I heard "things" from mutual acquaintances, but...who knows what that could be..

(If she was the Grizabella I saw in CATS, she was just fine!)

I hate Lloyd Webber's SUNSET BLVD. Have never been able to get all the way through it, so I can't judge her...though my wife loves it and it prompted her to by a Paige album, which I don't think she found overwhelming, but I could be wrong. It also prompted the lovely wife to go around singing one of those dreadful songs of Norma's around the house for weeks, which did not endear the show to me. (The lovely wife's voice was not dreadful, on the contrary, it was in fine fettle; it was the song I found dreadful)
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 11, 2004, 04:05:27 PM: Ah, diplomacy.

It's a fine line, isn't it...sometimes?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 04:06:54 PM: Oh, but DerBrucer, Draco did last forever...he's shining in the heavens. More importantly, The Olde Code lasts:

Inside the Table's circle,
Under the sacred sword,
A knight must vow to follow
The Code that is unending,
Unending as the Table,
A ring by honour-bound.

A knight is sword to valour.
His heart knows only virtue.
His blade defends the helpless.
His might upholds the weak.
His word speaks only truth.
His wrath undoes the wicked.

The right can never die,
If one man still recalls.
The words are not forgot,
If one voice speaks them clear.
The code forever shines,
If one heart holds it bright.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 04:08:10 PM: I don't know how diplomatic it is. I got nothing against her, but she's never really done it for me.
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Post by: bk on March 11, 2004, 04:12:10 PM: I like Diplomatic Pudding, frankly. I like reading ALL opinions. I liked Miss Paige when she first started out, and have grown less fond of her over the years. That's what makes Ye Olde Horseracing.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 04:19:50 PM: Well, your opinion, I think, may be the consensus in the corners I hang out in...There seems to be the idea floating around that she's become too full of her diva aura these days. That she can fart and people will fawn over her. And people do fawn over her.
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Post by: bk on March 11, 2004, 04:21:45 PM: Are anyone else's allergies bothering them?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 04:50:05 PM: I shall shortly be off to break bread at Miss June Wilkinson's house and will be meeting Mr. William Wellman, Jr. whose father, the great director, William Wellman directed such memorable movies as Beau Geste, The Light That Failed, Public Enemy, Nothing Sacred, The Ox-Bow Incident, and many, many others. Mr. Wellman, Jr., a longtime actor in the biz, produced a wonderful documentary about his father a few years back. More anon.
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Post by: bk on March 11, 2004, 05:02:13 PM: Yes, we must hear all about it - and please give my best to Miss June.
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Post by: Robin on March 11, 2004, 05:03:02 PM: Well, HELLO!

First off, it's good to be back. I was back for a while, then backslid. Hopefully, the ol' noggin and the Good Lord willing, I'll be back for the duration.

After going to work last week, I started to feel dizzy and woozy and all discombobulated due to the head injury I sustained moving a neighbor's couch. After another darned night in the hospital, I returned home to recuperate again.

I think I'm finally, totally recovered.

But please feel free to send me "strength" vibes. I could use 'em.

End of rant.
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Post by: Robin on March 11, 2004, 05:08:43 PM: Beginning of new rant:

I've always loved W.C. Fields, and think The Bank Dick is just about the funniest movie ever made. Fields and Franklin Pangborn on-screen at the same time is comedy heaven.

But my favorite comic actor/comedian of all time is DANNY KAYE, especially in The Court Jester and The Secret Life of Walter Mitty. And, darn it, I find him to be outrageously sexy, too.
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Post by: bk on March 11, 2004, 05:14:29 PM: I've been burning CDs of some of my favorite "cover" versions of shows. Am just doing Flower Drum Song by Andre Kostelanetz, one of the best. Coupling it with Melachrino Strings version of Bells Are Ringing. Already done Orch. '70's The Happy Time and Living Strings' Carnival. Now, since I know many of you dear readers love these albums, before putting them on eBay or taking them to Amoeba for trade, I will offer them here first. Let me know which of the above your interested in via e-mail.
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 05:15:56 PM: STRENGTH VIBES TO DR ROBIN A!
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Post by: Danise on March 11, 2004, 05:16:52 PM: Evening all. Sorry to be so late and not posting much. I'm still working on the SLC trip and some other issues. Sigh.

Funny how you tend to think your the only person who had a horrible time at school There's still a LOT I won't even talk about because it was that bad. Things that were done to me that even my Mother will never know.

I will say that when I get the class reunion mailings, they go right into the trash where they belong. I have nothing to say to those people and really couldn't give a flying fig what ever happened to the lot of them.

Let's move on from that, huh? I'm sounding like a bad person and I don't want to be.

Quote
Inside the Table's circle,
Under the sacred sword,
A knight must vow to follow
The Code that is unending,
Unending as the Table,
A ring by honour-bound.

A knight is sword to valour.
His heart knows only virtue.
His blade defends the helpless.
His might upholds the weak.
His word speaks only truth.
His wrath undoes the wicked.

The right can never die,
If one man still recalls.
The words are not forgot,
If one voice speaks them clear.
The code forever shines,
If one heart holds it bright.

Sounds familar--I think I read that someplace recently. ;) Sorry I still haven't finished the book. I am enjoying it. I've had an hour for lunch for 2 weeks so that usually gives me lots of reading time but for some reason people keep talking to me this week.

I think I acted like a knight of the old code last night--I can't explain but I did something I thought was the right thing to do even though others said different. I feel good about it.

They keep asking about the diet and Michael Ball and my trip, etc, etc.

I must say that one place I really notice the weight loss, strange enough is my hands. My fingers feel so much smaller. I have a favorite ring that I have not been able to wear for a long, long time. A little rose with a diamond chip (I doubt it's a real diamond chip/stone/whatever) and now I can wear it again. Yay!
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Post by: Robin on March 11, 2004, 05:17:01 PM: And now, a 3rd rant. Geeze, three rants in one night...!

Yeah, High School bites the wax tadpole, so to speak.

Luckily, I was a geek. I know that may be an odd thing to say, but it's true. Being a geek meant that I wasn't socially expected to do certain things, specifically to date girls and to excel at athletics, neither of which I was inclined (or capable!) of doing.

Yeah, I got razzed for being a geek, and even physically harrassed a bit. But in the long run, my geekery turned out to be a blessing in disguise.

The best thing I could possibly say about High School is that it only lasts four years. They seem long when you're in 'em, but once you're out in the world, four years can go by in the blink of an eye.

Anyone up for a fourth rant????
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 05:22:20 PM: Wonderful words to Jenny, TCB. Glad you decided to post it.
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 05:24:15 PM: Quote from: Robin Anderson on March 11, 2004, 05:17:01 PM
The best thing I could possibly say about High School is that it only lasts four years.
Oh yeah? When I went to high school in Canada, it was FIVE years.
Up to Grade 13!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on March 11, 2004, 05:40:31 PM: Quote from: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 04:08:10 PM
I don't know how diplomatic it is. I got nothing against her, but she's never really done it for me.

I meant your qualifying your comments regarding your wife's singing of the songs.... :D
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Post by: Kerry on March 11, 2004, 05:54:17 PM: I have yesterday's AND today's posts to read. Sounds like yesterday got a bit heavy. So I will lightne things up a bit.

Does anyone know what happened to Rod lauren and why his career kind of just fizzled? He was handsome; he coulds sing; he was the perfect teen idol. Other than the fact he got some bad movies (whichar e JUST the kind MBarnum and JRand enjoy), he had a lot going for him. As far as i know I know he only did one album (which I really like). Any info from anyone?

Oh and from a few days ago as to why Roddy MacDowall never got a junior Oscar (as in Academy Award-- he probably had a junior Oscar), I think it was politics and phobia-- the same reason Carleton Carpenter just kind of got phased out (although I DID hear that the reason for that was that he was doing it with a major producer's adult son-- but who really knows-- except Carleton himself).

AND the main reason I use the Barbara Cook quote on my profile is to TRY to remind ME that i am enough (something I have great deal of trouble with). If it inspires anyone else, then terrrific.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 05:54:20 PM: No...qualifications or diplomacy necessary. My wife has an ungodly brilliant singing voice. I've been awed by it since college. She has been a professional singer in various different incarnations of her life and has done many a lead in musicals. Never took a real lesson in her life. We were listening to a wonderful Rosemary Clooney album the other night, The Best of the Concord Sessions. Wonderful song selection and Rosie is in great voice, by the end, we were both weeping, realizing the loss of this wonderful icon. But at one point, my wife said," Rosie was my teacher. I learned to sing, listening to her."
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Post by: Robin on March 11, 2004, 06:01:45 PM: Quote from: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 05:54:20 PM
But at one point, my wife said," Rosie was my teacher. I learned to sing, listening to her."

She couldn't have had a better teacher.
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 06:05:28 PM: DR kerry - Were you the one watching JUDAS the other night? I'd love some feedback on it before I watch the tape.
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Post by: td on March 11, 2004, 06:13:12 PM: Quote from: bk on March 11, 2004, 03:33:31 PM
Soon I'll be going to Mr. Grant Geissman's home environment, and we shall work all the livelong night to hopefully finish the KT CD.

Omigod ! ! ! !

You never said that you were recording an album with country's diva, KT OSLIN ! ! !
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 11, 2004, 06:17:39 PM: DR Kerry: Rod Lauren and Johnny Restivo were both "groomed" by RCA to fill the gap left when Presley went into the army. There was only a 8 or 9 month period between "A Big Hunk Of Love" and "Stuck On You" and I suspect RCA no longer had the motivation to promote the new kids. "If I Had A Girl" was one of the top hits of 1960 here in OZ and Johnny Restivo's "The Shape I'm In" was very much a favourite of my friends at School at the time.
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Post by: Jane on March 11, 2004, 06:25:42 PM: Quote from: bk on March 11, 2004, 04:21:45 PM
Are anyone else's allergies bothering them?

Yes, my eyes itch something fierce at times.

The weather is beautiful and our spring days have been perfect. But since nothing in life is truly perfect, the weeds are growing and bugs have invaded our home.
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Post by: td on March 11, 2004, 06:27:22 PM: Quote from: Tomovoz on March 11, 2004, 06:17:39 PM
DR Kerry: Rod Lauren and Johnny Restivo were both "groomed" by RCA to fill the gap left when Presley went into the army. There was only a 8 or 9 month period between "A Big Hunk Of Love" and "Stuck On You" and I suspect RCA no longer had the motivation to promote the new kids. "If I Had A Girl" was one of the top hits of 1960 here in OZ and Johnny Restivo's "The Shape I'm In" was very much a favourite of my friends at School at the time.

Next thing you know, DR Tomovoz is going to be filling in the details of the life and times of "the wild one," Johnny O'Keefe! ;)
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Post by: td on March 11, 2004, 06:30:26 PM: (http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc900/c945/c94546untom.jpg)

her roots ARE showing. ;)
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Post by: Robin on March 11, 2004, 06:31:34 PM: I've been catching up on the posts for the past week, and I simply cannot believe that I missed ANAGRAM DAY.

Of course, my own name anagrammed is: NEON BRAIN RODS.

The Significant Others name anagrammed is: MR. CHIMP HATES PEACH JELLO.

Man, you miss so much if you miss a day on Haines His Way...!

Oh, and a Happy (if Belated) B-Day to Miss Panni!

I simply must catch up...!
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Post by: Jane on March 11, 2004, 06:38:24 PM: Robin Anderson
LOTS OF STRENGTH VIBES!!

Danise, congrats on wearing your ring again.

On second thought, after reading the beautiful posts on the subject, high school wasn’t so bad. It was certainly better than Jr. High. I still have many good friends from that time, including Bruce & Penny O and I of course have Keith, the best thing to ever happen to me.
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Post by: td on March 11, 2004, 07:06:19 PM: DR Danise congrats on the ring! :D
This is for you, as well as boomeranging back to a previous post of mine:

She Wears My Ring
(Words & music by Boudleaux & Felice Bryant)
She wears my ring to show the world that she belongs to me
She wears my ring to show the world she's mine eternally
With loving care I placed it on her finger
To show my love for all the world to see

This tiny ring is a token of tender emotion
An endless pool of love that's as deep as the ocean
She swears to wear it with eternal devotion
That's why I sing, because she wears my ring

She swears to wear it with eternal devotion
That's why I sing, because she wears my ring

This tiny ring is a token of tender emotion
An endless pool of love that's as deep as the ocean
She swears to wear it with eternal devotion
That's why I sing, because she wears my ring
That's why I sing, because she wears my ring.
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Post by: TCB on March 11, 2004, 07:12:26 PM: Quote from: Jane on March 11, 2004, 06:38:24 PM
Robin Anderson
LOTS OF STRENGTH VIBES!!

Danise, congrats on wearing your ring again.

On second thought, after reading the beautiful posts on the subject, high school wasn’t so bad. It was certainly better than Jr. High. I still have many good friends from that time, including Bruce & Penny O and I of course have Keith, the best thing to ever happen to me.

Jane -- I imagine you are, also, the best thing to ever happen to Keith!
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Post by: Jenny on March 11, 2004, 07:28:27 PM: Thank you all once again (!) for your continued kindness. :) :-* :)

I'm very pleased to report that I had a lovely day today! I spent most of my day on a bus (Four hours each way) in order to see a truly unimpressive production of "King Lear", but I ended up spending the day with my best friend, who I haven't gotten to spend very much time with lately, which was really nice. Whoever said yesterday that just having one good friend makes all the difference in the world was absolutely correct. Josh is a senior which causes me to rarely see him during the school day, but when I do, all those feelings of loneliness go away. After yesterday, it was really nice to be able to spend some time with him. :)

I'm pleased to say that days like yesterday don't occur too often. I've created a high school schedule for myself that causes me to almost never be in the same place for more than a half an hour at a time, so there's never enough time for anybody to pick on me or for me to even feel truly excluded! I don't have a lunch period, I don't take gym, and I spend half the day taking theatre classes at a different high school where the kids are even more crummy, but the teachers treat me like royalty (I'm currently directing scenes from "Assassins" there and I was just asked to help design the curriculum for a new drama class!).

And I just got a lovely new haircut.

It's amazing how a good day can help heal the hurt of a bad. :)
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 11, 2004, 07:35:00 PM: Quote from: bk on March 11, 2004, 04:21:45 PM
Are anyone else's allergies bothering them?
Yes, but I took a pill earlier. It might as well be spring!
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 11, 2004, 07:36:32 PM: Quote from: Jenny on March 11, 2004, 07:28:27 PM
And I just got a lovely new haircut.
Ah, now that's another reason to look forward to Saturday!
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Post by: MBarnum on March 11, 2004, 07:40:12 PM: Dr Jenny,
I am happy to hear your day today went much better! One thing to always keep in mind is that no matter how bad the day is another much better will come along.

As long as you don't become cynical and mean spirited you will be the winner. Just remember to always be kind to others and you will always have your self respect...and they can't take it away from you!
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Post by: MBarnum on March 11, 2004, 07:42:27 PM: DR WEL, I had forgotten that you mentioned the 7 Brides for Seven Brothers DVD...sorry about that!

But here are a couple more upcoming releases that I don't think have been mentioned.

The Bad Seed with a Patty McCormack commentary and (just for DR MattH) a set of the 1960s Margaret Rutherford Miss Marple films on DVD in 2005!
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Post by: td on March 11, 2004, 08:09:14 PM: Also, let us not forget THE SAM PECKINPAH collection coming from Warners, featuring THE BALLAD OF CABLE HOGUE, RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY and PAT GARRET AND BILLY THE KID. I would assume that this will also include a new transfer of the previously released THE WILD BUNCH.
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Post by: Matt H. on March 11, 2004, 08:15:16 PM: Wouldn't you know I have to wait another year for legitimate MISS MARPLE DVDs. I guess I can use the ones I made from TCM until the real thing comes along.

I read that LONG, LONG transcript of the chat, and there were lots of announcements and hints about upcoming releases, but I ached that some of my questions weren't touched on - like if there IS going to be a FORBIDDEN PLANET special edition this year or are we waiting for one in 2006. I've resisted buying the current FP DVD because I hoped for something more complete. I'll bet they're going to wait for an anniversary year for it now. Darn!
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 11, 2004, 08:17:45 PM: Quote from: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 03:17:29 PM
I think if you're elite, it merely means you have class...and not a part of the dross.
Oh, no, DR Charles! There is a definite difference between having class and being part of the elite.

Being part of the elite, particularly in high school, meant being part of a special group of people, open only to the very few, and requiring of the rest of the school a certain drop-jawed envy. Class, on the other hand...

A story from my own high school experiences. In my class, there was a core quartet who were involved in most everything. Ken, the leader, was the son of a preacher, but had turned out pretty good. Mark was the son of the HS music teacher. Jim was the "chubby" (and most funny) one, and Bob filled in the gaps, sort of the Zeppo.

No, they weren't on the football team, or any of those teams. They were the cheerleaders, and the core of the theater group (including being the only males in the dance class), and involved with the Associated Student Body. And, of course, when it came to elect the ASB president for the fall semester, Ken took the lead and was the chosen one.

Ken was an inclusionist. He wanted everyone to benefit from what was happening. Me, I'd been involved in the Poster committee the entire time, often being the one who was making the posters while the "in crowd" used the poster supply room as the stashing place for their books ("Oh, you can't expect US to use our lockers, it's too far out of our way!" was the response). So Ken turned to me and made me the Publicity committee chairman. He knew I wasn't one of the "popular" crowd, but he also knew I was on the school paper, and had been contributing for years. He wanted my experience.

But that was how Ken operated. He was interested in everyone, and interested in boosting everyone. I wasn't the only one who benifited from Ken's modus. There were many others.

Spring semester elections came around, and it was Bob's turn to be elected ASB President. (Jim and Mark weren't into the ASB thing.) Bob was Ken's opposite. He was an exclusionist, interested in being part of the "elite" crowd. Sure enough, all the committee posts were filled with his "friends" (outside of the other three), the ones who pandered to being part of the "upper echelon." The rest of us were summarily turned out, rejected, no matter how much experience we had.

And yes, it stung.

The difference was, Bob had worked his way into being part of the "elite," and saw that as his power base. Ken, on the other hand, never pandered to that power base. Ken was the one who had...I'm getting ahead of myself.

Twenty year reunion. I was there, and brought der Brucer. (There's other stories to tell, I won't just now.) Ken and Jim were missing, but Mark and Bob were there. Mark looked much as he always had, with the addition of a moustache. Bob, who had always been the classically handsome one, was bald and jowelly. He looked old. (His wife, wearing a pill-box hat, didn't make him look any younger.) Naturally, his distaste of myself and my partner was obvious. And a lot of people avoided him all night.

Ten years later, the thirty year reunion. Again, I'm there with der Brucer (who agreed to be photographed with me this time for the official pic). There's no sign of Ken again. Bob isn't there this time, however. Jim has reportedly died. Mark is the only one of the four present. Like father, like son, he's now teaching music and leading the local church choir. I commented on his being the only one of the four to still be coming to the reunions, and he nodded. "I miss Ken," was his only reply.

Dammit, I miss Ken, too. He was the one with class. He defined class. Whatever has happened to him, I wish him well.
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 08:18:41 PM: Glad you had a great day, Jenny!
Speaking of KING LEAR - Are you going to see Christopher Plummer's Lear at Lincoln Center? You should try.
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 08:20:54 PM: Thank you for the belated B-day wishes, DR Robin Anderson.
I think that being knocked unconscious is a perfectly acceptable excuse for missing the big day.
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 08:29:45 PM: SWW - What a moving tribute to Ken. Thank you for sharing it with us.
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 08:41:51 PM: Quote from: S. Woody White on March 11, 2004, 08:17:45 PM
But that was how Ken operated. He was interested in everyone, and interested in boosting everyone. I wasn't the only one who benifited from Ken's modus. There were many others.

I think that my friend, Marc, who is a Buddhist, would call him a bodhisattva.
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Post by: Jed on March 11, 2004, 08:45:54 PM: Quote from: Panni on March 11, 2004, 08:41:51 PM
I think that my friend, Marc, who is a Buddhist, would call him a bodhisattva.

Of course, bodhisattva is merely avttasihdob spelled backwards. Not that that means a damn thing, but I've been quiet tonight and needed something to say. :D
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Post by: Kerry on March 11, 2004, 09:06:12 PM: I had a lovely dinner with a lovely friend. There was an even lovelier creme brulee for dessert.

I need to go read the posts and find out what I missed.
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Post by: S. Woody White on March 11, 2004, 09:22:51 PM: I'm going to make it an early night again; we've got a lot to take care of before we head northward on Sat.

We did dine out tonight, at the Crab Barn. Aptly named; the place is huge inside! And they serve crab, and lobster, and other seafoody stuff. Good honest chow, nothing fancy; the Manhattans came in Old Fashined glasses, because the traditional "up" cocktail glasses break too easily, and they've had to switch to plastic lobster-cracking tools, because people kept stealing the metal ones! But a 1-lb Maine lobster for $14 each (with salad) ain't something to complain about. Good soups, too, and der Brucer wants me to find out how to make crab balls. ("Do you think they used bread crumbs, or is it all crab and seasoning?")

We got a doggy-bag of the lobster shells, because der Brucer wants me to make bisque!
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 09:57:25 PM: It's a quiet night at HHW. At the moment I'm all alone here.
...Just checked, still alone. I'd get Abie (wonderdog) to post, but he's sleeping.
Where in tarnation is everyone???
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 09:58:03 PM: I see Tomovoz!
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 09:58:38 PM: And Jed!
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 09:59:15 PM: Now there are three of us....
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Post by: td on March 11, 2004, 10:00:39 PM: I see Panni.
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Post by: Panni on March 11, 2004, 10:01:37 PM: More arrivals. Good. I have some things to do. May be back later. Talk amongst yourselves, guys.
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Post by: Jed on March 11, 2004, 10:01:48 PM: Oh yes, we're here, Panni. 'Tis the season for late-night denizens.
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Post by: Jed on March 11, 2004, 10:02:55 PM: Oh, I see how it is. She gets us all in here, then leaves!!! :D
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 11, 2004, 10:10:33 PM: How nice to be noticed.
What to write?
I have been absent for a few hours - I delivered a video to an elderly lady who is legally blind! I did ask the obvious question - she has some sight and can make out the screen at times. The video was copy of the 10th aniversary Les Mis concert which is now not available on video. I am so pleased I did not just post the video as I have now met a delightful lady. I had photocopied the Les Mis jacket from the video and she placed it on her scanner which "translates" the information directly to braille. Fascinating. My Cd and
(sometimes video) service has led me to meet, or at least to receive some beautiful letters from, some charming older folk.
This morning Magnus had his stitches removed - indeed he is now once again a happy and smiling (yes they do) dog.
td: I'll leave the story of the "Boomerang Kid" - I beleive he really has charisma and really upstaged visiting rock stars. I was not really a fan. I prefer the David Campbell versions of his songs. O'Keefe of course had a major hit here with "She Wears My Ring" - I preferred the Roy Orbison version. I think the tune is "La Golondrina" (My Spanish is probably well off!)
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 11, 2004, 10:13:33 PM: And Mr Dale is here so my post is not altogether wasted (like my life of course). Wrong - my life is now waisted. I must do something about it.
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 11, 2004, 10:18:39 PM: I think it was something I said Jed!
Do you have a job to go to on the coast or do you have do the substitute thing still?
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Post by: Jed on March 11, 2004, 10:38:18 PM: I have no idea what I have in store for me employment-wise, Tom. The key objective at the moment is to move... I'll find some sort of job to pay the bills. Teaching is going to wait for awhile, a decision I've come to after quite a lot of thinking. May return to it in a couple years, we shall see. So, new city, new job, I'll be a whole new Jed (well, ok, a partially new Jed).

Ann and TCB are already recruited for the job hunt in a couple months. George, you can keep your ears open for me, too! I have library experience, ya know. :)
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 11, 2004, 10:41:35 PM: I wish you the best Jed and I hope you do return to teaching in a few years. Good to know you have such good friends on the look out for possibilities for work.
A couple more posts and we will have avoided that dreadful possibility of record setting in not the nicest way!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on March 11, 2004, 10:43:34 PM: Good Morning! Good Day! Good Afternoon! Good Evening!

-Just wanted to cover all my bases.

I haven't read today's posts - I'll have to catch up once I'm back home Sunday. *The theatre has put me up in a nice hotel, BUT the phone calls are charged by the minute, so... Yes, Time, The Bitch Goddess in action.

Beautiful day weather-wise in NYC! A very nice train trip up - and at a very reasonable hour too! And I got to sit in about three hours of rehearsal for Children Of Eden. Wonderful cast! :)

Then it was off to Carnegie Hall to catch Mikhail Pletnev tickle the ivories. What an amazing pianist and musician. And he truly makes everything seem so effortless. And his personal "soundscape" was mesmerizing. Unfortunately, throughout the evening there was either a sound of someone's ventilator whistling, and/or someone's hearing aid whistling every few seconds. And then there was the coughing. Of course, some of the coughs happened to happen at some of the most quietest moments of music. -OH, and during those quiet moments, you could tell the people with the hearing aids were turning them up in order to hear just how quiet he was playing. UGH!!! I eventually phased all the high-pitched annoying pitches out - for the most part - and Mr. Pletnev's playing had me smiling, wishing and just in plain awe throughout the evening.

Then I met some friends at Don't Tell Mama.

OK - That's my list... Again, sorry for the list, but Miss Time is looking over my shoulder, just a tick-tick-ticking away.

As for film comedians... Abbott & Costello, Bob Hope, Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, Robin Williams (at certain times)... I think that's my list for now... Did I even come close? -I'll find out when I catch up on Sunday.

OHH!!!! A certain errant and truant Dear Reader sends his best. He's busy with work. He's busy with auditions - he has one tomorrow, Friday. He's busy with life. All is well.

Well, as Porky Pig says.. That's all folks!

Goodnight.
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Post by: Ann on March 11, 2004, 10:45:07 PM: No one noticed I am here! :)

Not much to say, really, but I wanted to post, so I'm posting :P

Hey, did I mention I'm gonna be seeing Thoroughly Modern Millie when it comes to Seattle in April? I'm so excited for it! Yay for birthday theater tickets...
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 11, 2004, 10:47:19 PM: Hello DR Ann. You are noticed.
Thanks Jose for news of the Broadway brat! Give him our regards.
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 11, 2004, 10:49:24 PM: Message from Colin to Jose. Have you visited Stokes yet?
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Post by: Jed on March 11, 2004, 11:20:28 PM: Quote from: Ann on March 11, 2004, 10:45:07 PM
Hey, did I mention I'm gonna be seeing Thoroughly Modern Millie when it comes to Seattle in April? I'm so excited for it! Yay for birthday theater tickets...

Hey, did I mention I'm gonna be seeing Thoroughly Modern Millie with DR Ann when it comes to Seattle in April? Yay for birthday theatre tickets, indeed! :D
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Post by: Tomovoz on March 11, 2004, 11:31:22 PM: I wonder if TCB will be starring as Mrs Meers in the production!
When is this "get together" of the Washington/Oregon kimlets happening?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 11:34:37 PM: Panni, any chance of the Plummer LEAR coming out here? I would love to see this. And LEAR is far from my favourite Shakespeare, but I think Christopher Plummer is a brilliant actor and should be a much bigger star than he is. His BARRYMORE was absolutely magnificent! Always liked him!
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Post by: Ann on March 11, 2004, 11:35:43 PM: We really should have a Northwest Kimlet meeting sometime...I'd love to meet everyone
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 11:36:42 PM: I am saving my Wilkinson/Wellman dinner rehash for the the post-midnite turnover.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on March 11, 2004, 11:40:40 PM: So, do you suppose BK is still out, cracking the whip on Mr. Guy Haines tonight at the Kritzer Time recording session at Mr. Grant Geissman's? Making him sing those five or six notes he likes to sing really, really well?