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Title: MEN WITH LOUD MACHINES
Post by: bk on April 06, 2004, 12:03:39 AM: Well, you've read the notes, you've projected like I have, you've tasted each little morsel and now you are ready to post until the cows come home, so to it, I say.
Title: Re:MEN WITH LOUD MACHINES
Post by: Panni on April 06, 2004, 12:10:06 AM: I have nothing profound (or prolost) to say - but it's nice to be the first post and as there seems to be no one here but bk and moi - it seems the thing to do. So here it is. My post.
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Post by: Ann on April 06, 2004, 12:20:38 AM: second post...just for the heck of it...now off to bed :)
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Post by: S. Woody White on April 06, 2004, 12:25:17 AM: This would be the third post, but I'm projecting, so it's really the seventh.
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Post by: bk on April 06, 2004, 12:29:34 AM: I'm projecting myself into bed as I type this. I'm almost asleep as I type this. I'm having the most wonderful dream as I type this.
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Post by: Michael on April 06, 2004, 03:44:43 AM: Movie:Arnold
Stage Musical: Starmites
Stage Play: Deathtrap
TV: Any of those home video programs.
Title: Re:MEN WITH LOUD MACHINES
Post by: Emily on April 06, 2004, 05:29:17 AM: Before I forget...

S. Woody asked yesterday about the cut of meat that makes Jewish brisket and Irish corned beef. The same cut is also used to make smoked meat here too (and it's really the only way I eat it :) )

So... 1 cut of meat => 3 very different end products based on how you prepared it

if it's cooked as is, direct from the moo, you get brisket
if it's corned you get corned beef
if it's smoked you get smoked meat

how strange that each of those preparations is so identified with an ethnic group or specific location! :)
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Post by: Emily on April 06, 2004, 05:33:55 AM: Guilty Pleasures:

Musical: Zanna Don't (it is rough but cute... definitely gp material)

TV: Trading Places, where Canadians switch lives with a complete
stranger for a day... very funny stuff if not exactly Masterpiece Theatre

Books: The Amelia Peabody series by Elizabeth Peters
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 06, 2004, 05:36:27 AM: Now of course, I am going to have to watch LA CONFIDENTIAL and look for the AD gaffe. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..... My guess would be a restaurant or studio sign.

Hmmmmmmm....I liked Titanic when it was about the ship - about the phony people, no. I will take the Sturges family any day, thank you very much. And the dialog was impossible for the most part.

Guilty pleasures....not hits...hmmmmmmmmm

Movie: The Miracle wherein Miss Carroll Baker starts out as a nun....and drifts a LOT!

Musical: AIDA - even though it is something of a hit, it is not something someone would RUSH to see. I liked the music and the sets and the performances.

Book: Either INSIDE PEYTON PLACE, the Grace Metalious biography or CALL ME ANNA Patty Duke's autobiography...OR Will There Really Be a Morning? the "autobiography" of (not by) Frances Farmer.

Play: The Marriage of Bette & Boo by Christopher Durang
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 06, 2004, 05:38:03 AM: I forgot TV: Green Acres, existing in its own reality. Or Marcus Welby, MD. The acting was on the same level as the medical treatments.
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 06, 2004, 05:38:42 AM: Good morning, all. All this talk of matzoh balls, chopped liver, and brisket from yesterday has given me such a craving. I may be living at my neighborhood deli today. First I have a date with my goddaughter to see SCOOBY DOO 2 at 2. As dear friend BK would say, isn't that too too?

So, TOD is guilty pleasures? That's not easy when it comes to musicals and plays; is a show a guilty pleasure because it failed? I can think of several flops I saw that deserved longer runs: TEIBELE AND HER DEMON, FRANKENSTEIN (at the Palace), both with great incidental music by Richard Peaslee, BIRDS OF PARADISE, RAGS, THE TRIUMPH OF LOVE, and the list could continue.

I'm going to define Guilty Pleasure as something your peer/intellectual group would put down but contains some personal resonance for you alone, so here are my choices for TOD:

Musical: HELLO, DOLLY! Carol Channing's last revival didn't run long, and there was a lot of "oh no, not again" from my acquaintances, but it's a show I only want to see in Gower Champion's production: it moves, it dances, it had style and panache which is missing from a lot of revivals of other shows I've seen after seeing the original, and Michael Stewart's book is funny. I first saw Ginger Rogers do it in 1966, then I saw Channing do it in 1978 (?), and while she was much more fragile in this last revival from the 1990s, she's a great comedienne and I had a wonderful time.

Play: Well, that's harder; classic plays survive and get redone, but who's to know how many hit plays today will be around in 100 years and get revivals?
One of the funniest plays I've seen in the past 10 years was an off-off-Broadway comedy BACK SEATS AND BATHROOM STALLS, whose title alone would bend some noses out of joint and therefore qualify it as a guilty pleasure, but it was quite good with an excellent cast. I doubt enough people saw it to get it published or transferred but it deserved some success. I wish I could say that I saw and loved MOOSE MURDERS, since that would seem to be the epitome of a Guilty Pleasure, but I missed it. I did see CARRIE, but there's no guilty pleasure there: it was dreadful.

CD: Al Carmines' PROMENADE; Lehman Engle hated this show and put it down in several of his books, possibly in his BMI workshop as well, and when I moved to New York in 1979, Mr Carmines and this show seemed to be regarded as a second-rate citizens. The score and its vocal demands seem to be inspired in part by the world's greatest cult musical, CANDIDE, and it's libretto seems to be a variant on CANDIDE as redone by someone like Ionesco. I missed the 1969 Promenade Theatre production which named the theatre, so this CD is my only souvenir of the show and I think it's great with an amazing cast for an off-Broadway musical. I'm sorry that RCA waited too long to record it and that Madeline Kahn had already left the show, but Alice Playten's "Capricious and Fickle" is one of my favorite things on disc.

Movie: MONSTER IN THE CLOSET: funny movie with some good actors including a young Paul Walker and Henry Gibson and with some good points on homophobia and closets.

Did I cover all elements of TOD? I hope.
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 06, 2004, 05:56:31 AM: I meant to mention that I just acquired on eBay a playbill from the Boston tryout for CANDIDE in 1956, and it includes the following musical numbers I now want to hear:

Introduction and duet: I Love You (Candide, Cunegonde) Lyrics: Richard Wilbur
Barcarolle: Pass the Soap (Cunegonde, Old Lady) Lyrics: Richard Wilbur
Gavotte: Sweet to See Two Hearts So True (Candide, Pangloss, Cunegonde, Old Lady) Lyrics: Dorothy Parker

Supposedly the syphilis saga "Dear Boy" was cut in Boston, but I don't know if it was put in and removed before they left Boston, along with a character played by Carmen Matthews, or if it was cut before the Boston opening.

But I digress from the TOD.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on April 06, 2004, 06:17:26 AM: Wow! Someone else loves PROMENADE as much as I do. I am a big Carmines fan and love all his shows. Years ago I directed productions of PEACE and THE FAGGOTT. I wish more of his shows were out on CD, but at least I have several on LP which I will convert to CD when I get a phono I can hook up to my burner.

I saw three productions of PROMENADE in the 70s... the original off-Broadway (at the only theatre I know of named for its opening show --- The Promenade), one at the storefront theatre in Chicago where GREASE had originated, and one at Buffalo State directed by future tv writer/producer Tom Fontana. In the later, some of the singers could not sing the complicated music so they recited the lyrics! I missed the NY revival with HHW's own Jason Grae.

What is Al Carmines doing today? Does his new church prevent him from writing music? Am I the only one who think Carmines instead of Sharpton when I see a headline that says Reverand Al?

By the way, my favorite Carmines show (which I saw in both productions at the Judson) has never been recorded: THE JOURNEY OF SNOW WHITE.

As for guilty pleasures, the books I'm telling everyone to read are THE KRTIZER TRILOGY. (I assume since this is three books that "are" is correct instead oof "is".)

Movies I'd say "Triplets of Bellville" although it has become somewhat popular.

TV - "Hope and Faith", the first funny sitcom in years.
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Post by: MBarnum on April 06, 2004, 07:14:09 AM: Finished Kritzerland last night! What a wonderful book that was BK! I really, really enjoyed it and there was so much in it that I identified with (particularly the stuff about Junior High School). Today I will begin Kritzer Time!!
Title: Re:MEN WITH LOUD MACHINES
Post by: Matt H. on April 06, 2004, 07:31:11 AM: Guilty pleasures? I have to agree that some guilty pleasures WERE big hits but were trash nonetheless and friends often look at you funny when you admit a liking for them.

I'm thinking of something like VALLEY OF THE DOLLS in both book and film incarnations. Both were wildly popular with the public despite being laughably bad. But I can sit down and read that book with the greatest of pleasure, and the film never ceases to entertain. So, those would have to be my book and film choices.

TV: I guess one we were talking about yesterday, KOLCHAK: THE NIGHT STALKER. Looked at today, the special effects, makeup for the monsters, and production values are all pretty low compared to the accurate worlds that shows like ANGEL or THE X-FILES give us. But I still find those 20 episodes uniquely entertaining.

Musical: I think THE HAPPY TIME. I've never understood its lack of popularity: haunting score, wonderful performances, interesting characters. It was at the wrong theater (the huge Broadway) when it would have worked SO much better at something smaller, but I suppose Gower Champion wasn't in the mood to do something intimate with the material. Bad mistake. Not every show needs to be the size of HELLO, DOLLY!

Play: INSPECTING CAROL. One of the funniest plays I've ever seen and unfairly unknown.
Title: Re:MEN WITH LOUD MACHINES
Post by: Jennifer on April 06, 2004, 08:22:48 AM: DR Panni: I'd love to hear about everything they served at your sedar last night (I don't think you went into detail about the food after you came back, did you?).
Title: Re:MEN WITH LOUD MACHINES
Post by: Matt H. on April 06, 2004, 08:24:04 AM: I wanted to make some comments about NORTH BY NORTHWEST and Panni's daughter's reaction to it from a couple of days ago.

I've always liked it, but I think it's one of Hitchcock's pictures that grows in your mind the more you experience it. After watching it quite a few times, I find it grows in stature when you see how marvelously it's put together and how many truly suspenseful sequences have been crammed into it. The first time through, it might seem to lack something in pacing, but after you get accustomed to that, you understand that you need those respites between the suspenseful moments to "recover," so to speak.

My guess is that the next time she sees it, she's going to be more enthusiastic about it.
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Post by: Panni on April 06, 2004, 08:45:04 AM: Seder Menu for Jennifer:

Gefilte fish, horseradish, hard boiled egg
Charoset
matzoh ball soup
potato kugel
tzimmis
brisket of beef
Asparagus
fruit compote
Fresh fruit salad
lemon/orange sponge cake
lots of mtzoh, natch
And all sorts of chocolates and other sweets to nosh on after the meal in case the above didn't fill you up.
(I've probably left out a few things)
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Post by: MBarnum on April 06, 2004, 08:47:46 AM: Guilty pleasures:

Movie: A great, fun, weird, guilty pleasure that I would recommend is Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. This Russ Meyer film is so kooky and yet so entertaining you just can stop watching it! And if you ever wanted to see a film with several Playboy playmates as the stars, this is your movie!

TV show: Most Extreme Elimination Challenge. Spike TV has taken a Japanese reality show, dubbed in comic dialogue and the result is pure hilarity! It spoofs reality television and will give you a half-hour of belly laughs.

Book: I don’t have any one particular book, but just about any of the lurid 1950s paperback mystery books could be included.

Play: Making Porn was a very funny, funny play and if it is still playing anywhere I would recommend seeing it as well.
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Post by: Panni on April 06, 2004, 08:48:58 AM: Haven't got much time this morning, but must post guilty movie pleasure: BUTTERFLY - Pia Zadora and Orson Welles. That alone should make you want to see it. Haven't seen it in years, but it is SO bad that it borders on genius.
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Post by: Lulu on April 06, 2004, 09:01:11 AM: Quote from: Matt H. on April 06, 2004, 08:24:04 AM
I wanted to make some comments about NORTH BY NORTHWEST and Panni's daughter's reaction to it from a couple of days ago.

My guess is that the next time she sees it, she's going to be more enthusiastic about it.

I'd say that's a good guess. My reaction upon first viewing North by Northwest years ago was "Eh...it was all right, but not as good as the hype led me to believe."

I've seen it several times since then, and each time the things that bothered me upon initial viewing bother me less, and the things I liked I enjoy more and more. It really is a film that improves upon re-viewing (and how many movies can you say that about?).
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on April 06, 2004, 09:03:43 AM: If a guilty pleasure is something you love because it's so bad, I'd have to say Mrs. Miller and "Wing."
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Post by: Lulu on April 06, 2004, 09:09:48 AM: I just listed a whole passel of guilty pleasures a few days ago, but I'll mention one that escaped my notice at the time:

TV:

The live action version of Sailor Moon

Currently being produced and shown in Japan, this is a program we savor whenever we are able to see it. The kids are delightful, the storylines silly but enjoyable, and somehow, even though the teens wear ridiculous costumes and battle otherworldly forces, they seem more true-to-life than teens on American shows - that is, their prime concerns are making friends, being liked (yet staying true to themselves), listening to music by the latest pop sensation, reaching out to other people even if they are afraid of rejection and/or eventual abandonment, parental expectations (and possibly failing them), and buying things that are "cute." The teens on American shows seem to have lives that revolve entirely around getting laid - somehow, I find this notion both distasteful and insultingly reductive.
Title: Re:MEN WITH LOUD MACHINES
Post by: Jennifer on April 06, 2004, 09:31:00 AM: Quote from: Panni on April 06, 2004, 08:45:04 AM
Seder Menu for Jennifer:

Gefilte fish, horseradish, hard boiled egg
Charoset
matzoh ball soup
potato kugel
tzimmis
brisket of beef
Asparagus
fruit compote
Fresh fruit salad
lemon/orange sponge cake
lots of mtzoh, natch
And all sorts of chocolates and other sweets to nosh on after the meal in case the above didn't fill you up.
(I've probably left out a few things)

Tzimmis (sp?) is the most delicious thing! My aunt makes it with these little dumplings in it. And it's very good.

It's basically sweetened carrots in a great sauce, with meat or dumplings in it.

I was so disappointed with my roasted potatoes. Sometimes the sedars take longer than one thinks. And they were way overcooked, which made me so sad. :(
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 06, 2004, 09:31:39 AM: Guilty pleasures:

Movie/film score: "The Yellow Rolls-Royce" -- wonderfully entertaining.

Movie/musical movie LP: "Goodbye, Mr. Chips" -- a movie-movie. Fellow fans revere this as a cult classic, quoting dialogue and lyrics at the drop of a hat.

Books: Anne Rice's vampire and witch sagas. Mesmerizing reading.

Pop Music: ELP's "Brain Salad Surgery"

Spoken Word: Richard Harris' recording of "Jonathan Livingston Seagull"

Musical Theater CD: "Dear World"
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Post by: Stuart on April 06, 2004, 09:33:19 AM: Quote from: Matt H. on April 06, 2004, 07:31:11 AM
I'm thinking of something like VALLEY OF THE DOLLS in both book and film incarnations.

You beat me to the punch, DR Matt H.: VOTD is most assuredly my guiltiest pleasure, film-wise.

Musical: STEEL PIER. (Why not? It was like "Touched by an Angel" with a score by Kander & Ebb!)

Play: Truthfully? Not that it is really a play, but more of an entertainment: CATSKILLS ON BROADWAY. If pressed on the issue, PARTY, even though I only saw it once.

Book: Ethan Mordden's BUDDIES trilogy.

TV: Food Network (anything BUT Emeril.) Or HGTV. Or Trading Spaces. Or, if we are talking truly guilty pleasures, just kicking back and watching QVC, without the slightest intention of ever buying something.

A good yom tov to all who observe, but especially to you, DR Panni. Sounds like the sort of feast my mother used to make..... My own seder was much smaller.
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Post by: Jay on April 06, 2004, 09:37:58 AM: Quote from: Stuart on April 06, 2004, 09:33:19 AM
Sounds like the sort of feast my mother used to make.

So where was I when there was tzimmes on the table?
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Post by: bk on April 06, 2004, 09:45:04 AM: The problems with films like North by Northwest (or Psycho) is that by the time younger generations get to them they've been ripped off so many times they no longer seem fresh. Or others have just pushed the envelopes of those genres to such ridiculous lengths that no one seeing them for the first time years after their release can understand what the deal is. With subsequent viewings, yes, the appreciation begins. I can't tell you how many young people say Psycho is nothing, a bore, what's the big deal. Well, I was there for both initial releases (and wrote volumes about seeing both in the Kritzer books) and in context of the times they were perfectly perfect films, unique, exciting, funny, horrifying, everything they were intended to be.
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Post by: Stuart on April 06, 2004, 09:50:56 AM: Quote from: Jay on April 06, 2004, 09:37:58 AM
So where was I when there was tzimmes on the table?

Ummmm, this one is too easy:

California.

We didn't start making tsimmes 'til after you moved.
(How's that for payback for all those "It happened before you were born" stories??)

Please remember, DR/DB Jay, HHW is not the place for us to air all our dirty family laundry! There are large, crowded public spaces made for that.

::)
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 06, 2004, 09:55:23 AM: If this were a production of "Sunset Boulevard," would those be Norma's tzimmes?

;) :-*
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Post by: Jay on April 06, 2004, 10:13:23 AM: Quote from: Stuart on April 06, 2004, 09:50:56 AM
Ummmm, this one is too easy:

California.

We didn't start making tsimmes 'til after you moved.
(How's that for payback for all those "It happened before you were born" stories??)

Please remember, DR/DB Jay, HHW is not the place for us to air all our dirty family laundry! There are large, crowded public spaces made for that.

::)

Yes, well, may I remind you, DR/DB Stuart, that our Dear Mother now lives in the Golden State? And that despite our DM's close proximity I remain bereft of tzimmes? 'Tis a schanda. A schanda, I say!
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Post by: TCB on April 06, 2004, 10:28:48 AM: Wow, what a great Topic of the Day to get the brain functioning on a Tuesday morning.

Movie – There are so many candidates for this honor, but BK said we could only name one. So, I will bypass The Red Tent and The Big Bus, both of which I love, and go with Phantom of the Paradise. Paul Williams will never be a great actor, and seeing his nude bed scenes might be more than some people can tolerate, but Brian De Palma’s whole quirky take on the PotO legend, complete with 70s rock ‘n roll score and dancing hippies, is just a delightful way to waste a couple of hours.

Television – Definitely, a show that ran one season, ended with a cliff hanger, and never was and probably never will be, renewed or resolved should qualify as a guilty pleasure. John Doe was yet another on Fox’s steadily increasing list of series that showed great promise, but was cancelled before they even had a chance to develop or to attract an audience. Dominic Purcell, a former classmate of Hugh Jackman, who played the mysterious John Doe was a joy to behold. It was interesting to watch a series that was obviously not shot in Seattle, but used constant place names and street names to make you almost believe you were really there.

Book – Without a doubt The Shipkiller by Justin Scott. I have probably read the book six or seven times, and I never get tired of it. It is an incredible adventure yarn that is almost impossible to put down. Years ago, when I first bought my copy, the cover said, “Soon to be a major motion picture.” Unfortunately, that never came to pass. I have lost my copy of the book, and Amazon.com now advertises used copies starting at around $75.00, so I doubt that I will ever own it again, but what a fantastic book. Gee, what would happen if the library should loose their copy????

Musical – A Wonderful Life by Sheldon Harnick and Joe Raposo. The book has some large holes in it, and there is no cast recordings available, but still this show is a delightful and it has a very sweet score that makes it a nice change from yet another production of Scrooge every Christmas.

Play -- … I’m thinking, I’m thinking.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 06, 2004, 10:35:25 AM: Good afternoon!

Guilty pleasures...

Musical: Eating Raoul - It's just sooooo wrong in so many ways. And soooo good! "Hot Monkey Love" is one of my all-time favorite song titles! And perfect casting of Adrian Zmed as Raoul - "He's got the tool for you!" - Well, it comes out more like, "He's got the tool for jew..." -It's Passover, ain't it?

Movie: The only title that comes to mind right now is "The Competition". -But I think it's a guilty pleasure for all pianists. -And maybe even "Madame Sousatzka". It's always "fun" watching how well - or not well - and actor/actress fakes the piano playing.

Book: Those series of Japanese books that started with "Everyone Poops," "The Gas We Pass," and the "The Holes in Your Nose". Then went onto include such classics as "Breasts" and various other titles covering various other body parts and bodily functions. And they're children's books to boot!

TV Show: Well, "American Idol," but since it's a huge ratings hit... So, I guess I'd have to say.... Hmm... I'll have to think about this one....

-And it seems like CBS Daytime is now home to some of the past stars of past nighttime "dramas"/soaps. But I guess it always has. At least Fernando Lamas still looks good - even with his shirt off! :P And Joan van Ark is now on "The Young and The Restless".
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 06, 2004, 10:38:10 AM: Oh, and Linda Gray too on "The Bold and The Beautiful"!
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Post by: Ann on April 06, 2004, 10:44:05 AM: Hmm...guilty pleasures...

TV - I guess you could call Tru Calling my latest guilty pleasure...and probably my penchant for watching old Nick Toons...Rugrats in particular.

Musicals - That's easy...Rent, The Last Five Years, and Phantom of the Opera

okay, I'm out of time...gotta get to choir...I'll finish this later :)
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Post by: Stuart on April 06, 2004, 10:44:57 AM: Quote from: Jay on April 06, 2004, 10:13:23 AM
Yes, well, may I remind you, DR/DB Stuart, that our Dear Mother now lives in the Golden State? And that despite our DM's close proximity I remain bereft of tzimmes? 'Tis a schanda. A schanda, I say!

Ah, the laundromat is open!

For DR's who may not be aware of this, DR Jay and I are actual real-life brothers. Our DM moved from Brooklyn to the Golden State approximately 10 years ago. During that time, I believe she has turned on her oven perhaps twice. Once was during my first visit to her new home. That she cooked for me, but not for my dear older brother, made him irate, shall we say.

However, DR/DB Jay, please do not take a lack of tsimmes as another slight in our DM's culinary treats for you, for I believe it was I who instigated its being made in the first place, and I who basically ended up making it, most of the time. Or at least lending MORE than just a helping hand.

Also remember that I made the chopped liver and many other Passover delights in the old days (....and the old-fashioned way, too, with a wood chopping bowl and a hockmesser.....perhaps that's why I can't stand the stuff now!).

So, if you are having a hankering for tsimmes, you can always do waht you did last year, and call me from Von's or wherever.

But if you think I am sending you the ol' Passover recipe file, you've got another things coming!
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Post by: Emily on April 06, 2004, 11:20:16 AM: Woohoo!

I just bought tickets for the Canadian premiere production of The Last Five Years (one of DR Ann's guilty pleasures I see :) ) at Canstage in Toronto!

Road trip with the gals and CYGOPP May 8 and 9th!!! :D
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Post by: Panni on April 06, 2004, 11:38:55 AM: I seem to have caused a tzimmes rift between two loving brothers. Shame on me. :'(
Now Jay and Stuart, you just shake hands and stop fighting. Your DM loves you both EQUALLY, I'm quite sure. It's cooking she no longer loves.
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Post by: td on April 06, 2004, 11:42:39 AM: TOD by TD:

BOOK(S): THE LOVE MACHINE makes it for me, far trashier than VALLEY OF THE DOLLS; I used to read quite a lot of Harold Robbins, and THE ADVENTURERES sticks in my mind, I don't suppose that Arthur Hailey could fit in here, too, could he?

MOVIE(S): AT LONG LAST LOVE, followed closely by MYRA BRECKENRIDGE - I just can't get enough of MYRA now that it's on dvd. DUDE, WHERE'S MY CAR? anything with Seann William Scott, moreso than Ashton Kuchner, though both rely less on skill than on charm. MONKEYBONE.
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Post by: MBarnum on April 06, 2004, 11:45:27 AM: Quote from: td on April 06, 2004, 11:42:39 AM
TOD by TD:

[MOVIE(S): AT LONG LAST LOVE, followed closely by MYRA BRECKENRIDGE - I just can't get enough of MYRA now that it's on dvd. DUDE, WHERE'S MY CAR? anything with Seann William Scott, moreso than Ashton Kuchner, though both rely less on skill than on charm. MONKEYBONE.

You know, I have always been sort of curious about MONKEYBONE! Is it any good? Doesn't it have Brendan Fraser? Or am I thinking of someone else.
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Post by: Stuart on April 06, 2004, 11:45:42 AM: Quote from: Panni on April 06, 2004, 11:38:55 AM
It's cooking she no longer loves.

Truth be told, DR Panni, I don't think she ever did love it. I think it was an obligation.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 06, 2004, 11:59:46 AM: Now this is what I call "plotzing"!
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Post by: td on April 06, 2004, 12:06:05 PM: Quote from: MBarnum on April 06, 2004, 11:45:27 AM
You know, I have always been sort of curious about MONKEYBONE! Is it any good? Doesn't it have Brendan Fraser? Or am I thinking of someone else.

Yep, it's the one with Brendan. . .essentially doing a Jeckyll & Hyde. It's not great, but, eccentric. From the same director as NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
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Post by: Ben on April 06, 2004, 12:09:57 PM: Books: As mentioned by others, Valley of the Dolls

TV: Jimmy Neutron Boy Genius and Fairly Odd Parents, both on Nickelodeon (I know we were only supposed to choose one but I didn't, so there)

Movie: The Boys in the Band

Musical: The Me Nobody Knows

Play: The Bad Seed
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Post by: Jenny on April 06, 2004, 12:13:23 PM: Well, Panni's seder sounds far more amusing than mine. Actually, BK's seder sounds more amusing than mine! My sister, the only religious person in my family, didn't come home for Pesach this year, so we didn't bother doing the "service" part of the seder. I spent most of the evening thinking about various quotes from Tony Kushner's "Notes On Akiba" and wanting to nice dinner roll.

As usual, the brisket made me sick so I had to skip most of the seder. ::)

The highlight of the evening occured as my mother was serving the gefilte fish.
Me: What is it, fish?
(Long pause.)
Mom: What else would it be?

So, onto the guilty pleasures!

Movie – "Spice World". As a child of the '90s, there is truly nothing like it.

Television – "Days Of Our Lives".

Book – The Georgia Nicholson book series. I would say the title of the first installation, but I am too ashamed. :-[

Musical – "Fame"

Play - "For Whom The Southern Belle Tolls"
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Post by: Jennifer on April 06, 2004, 12:17:29 PM: You brothers are so entertaining. I'm loving this. :)
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Post by: Ben on April 06, 2004, 12:18:05 PM: Jenny, could you be talking about

"Angus, Thongs and Full-Frontal Snogging"?

Never heard of the author so I googled her and came up with this title. Sounds on track to me :-)
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Post by: Jenny on April 06, 2004, 12:24:02 PM: Quote from: Ben on April 06, 2004, 12:18:05 PM
Jenny, could you be talking about

"Angus, Thongs and Full-Frontal Snogging"?

:-[ :-[ :-[
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 06, 2004, 12:24:30 PM: Such wonderful choices.

VOTD book and movie to be sure, and BUDDIES, the books, and MXC, how could I forget my favorite NEW television show.

I am watching a guilty pleasure right now... MIDNIGHT LACE with Miss Doris Day in peril!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on April 06, 2004, 12:29:12 PM: There are men with loud machines all around me today. Across the street they are cutting down palm trees. Next door -- I'm not sure, but I think they are digging up a swimming pool.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 06, 2004, 12:32:33 PM: BK, I am also a fan of BABY, THE RAIN MUST FALL...discovered mainly through the great song of the same title sung by Glenn Yarborough. It's a nice simple film. One of those films that couldn't get made today because someone would look at it and say, "Nothing happens in it", when, of course, all kinds of things are happening.

GUILTY PLEASURES:

I actually mentioned my guilty pleasure film last week, TAPEHEADS starring John Cusak & Tim Robbins, along with Jessica Walters, Mary Crosby, Clu Gulager, Doug McClure, Connie Stevens, and Susan Tyrrell...surreally silly with a great R & B song called ANY ORDINARY MAN WOULD HAVE GIVEN IT UP BY NOW sung by Sam Moore of Sam & Dave and Junior Walker of Junior Walker and the All-stars, playing a singing duo called The Swanky Modes.

So, since I mentioned this a week ago, I'm picking a new one:

THE FOUNTAINHEAD...Even the director King Vidor disses this film. It's based on Ayn Rand's novel, adapted by her, whole chunks of dialogue from the book are uplifted...not so much dialogue as dogma, doctrine, and philosophy masquerading as dialogue. It's all very florid and over-the-top with great scenery- chewing performances by Patricia Neal, Raymond Massey, Robert Douglas, and even Gary Cooper gets in his licks. In fact, I was asked King Vidor about this film and he felt that Cooper was miscast...he always felt Howard Roarke, the uncompromising architect, should have been played by someone like Bogie. He was wrong. There was no one who represented uncorruptible integrity better than Cary Cooper. I love this film! I had an agent who used to refer to me as the Howard Roarke of screenwriters. Not true, but flattering, nonetheless.

My guilty pleasure play would be:

MOVE OVER, MRS. MARKHAM, a silly British sex farce by Ray Cooney and John Chapman. I did it in dinner theatre years ago with Cyd Charisse and a wonderful Aussie farceur, called Peter Pagan (maybe Tomovoz remembers him. He made is mark in a movie called The Overlanders). The sucker just rips along like a house afire.

TV guilty pleasure: MEN BEHAVING BADLY (called BRITISH MEN BEHAVING BADLY on BBC over here). Not to be confused with the bad American version that played on network over here. This is the original British series...rude, raunchy, raucous, and fall down funny.

Guilty-pleasure Musical: KEAN. Not a success, but Ilove the music, the story and theme, the love the lead performer: the great Alfred Drake.

Gulity-pleasure Books: The Jules DeGrandin stories by Seabury Quinn. They are about a French occult detective, Jules De Grandin, and his cohort and companion, Dr. Trowbridge. Sort of a supernatural Holmes and Watson. All their cases take place in a New Jersey town which, given the incidences of supernatural occurence, must be the most haunted city in the world. They originally appeared in Weird Tales magazine and were very popular. Popular Library published a bunch of the stories in 6 paperbacks, back in the 70's. They're hoary little tales, but great fun.
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Post by: td on April 06, 2004, 12:35:07 PM: Quote from: Charles Pogue on April 06, 2004, 12:32:33 PM

MOVE OVER, MRS. MARKHAM, a silly British sex farce by Ray Cooney and John Chapman. I did it in dinner theatre years ago with Cyd Charisse and a wonderful Aussie farceur, called Peter Pagan (maybe Tomovoz remembers him. He made is mark in a movie called The Overlanders). The sucker just rips along like a house afire.

Hey! I did that play, too!
I also directed NO SEX PLEASE, WE'RE BRITISH - - and that is a truly guilty pleasure!
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Post by: Jennifer on April 06, 2004, 12:38:21 PM: DR Jenny: I'm so sorry the brisket made you sick. Do you know why? :(

I have so many tv guilty pleasures. But I suppose the biggest (and the one I could not live without is Y&R).
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Post by: Matt H. on April 06, 2004, 01:07:22 PM: DR Jose, I'm sure you mean Lorenzo Lamas. His handsome father Fernando is no longer with us.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 06, 2004, 01:08:59 PM: THE LOVE MACHINE is a perfect choice, once again as a guilty pleasure book AND film.
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Post by: TCB on April 06, 2004, 01:16:03 PM: Quote from: td on April 06, 2004, 12:35:07 PM
Hey! I did that play, too!
I also directed NO SEX PLEASE, WE'RE BRITISH - - and that is a truly guilty pleasure!

I saw a matinee performance of No Sex Please, back in the mid-80s. By this time, the cast was apparently so bored with the show that they walked all-over their own and each others' punch lines. No one in the barely half-a-house was laughing and the longer we went without laughing, the more angry the cast members became. By the time we reached the end of the play, both sides were so fed up with each other, that is wasn't so much a curtain call, as a truce.
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Post by: Jennifer on April 06, 2004, 01:23:26 PM: We need more posts!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 06, 2004, 01:24:17 PM: Another Guilty Pleasure Film:

"Barbarella" -- Jane Fonda and John Phillip Law as the Angel.
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Post by: bk on April 06, 2004, 01:33:26 PM: These are such great postings - nothing like them on all the Internet.
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 06, 2004, 01:35:04 PM: Oh....The Fountainhead. Yes, and when oh when will we have the Atlas Shrugged movie.

I agree with DRCHARLESPOGUE that Gary Cooper was the ideal choice for Howard Roark. I also like the story that Patricia Neal tells that after one preview, Virginia Mayo came up to her and said: "Oh my, weren't you bad..." Neal accepted it as a compliment, until she thought about it a bit longer. I love The Fountainhead.....the very definition of berserk. And of course Ayn Rand threatened to blow up the Warner Bros Studio unless her script was done exactly as she had written it....Ayn Rand IS Howard Roark.... Of course she is also Dominique Francon and John Galt and Hank Reardon and most of all Dagny Taggert...a woman who ran a transcontinental railroad and fell in love with the man she had sworn to kill...
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Post by: bk on April 06, 2004, 01:35:51 PM: Oh, and used up the rest of my store credit and snagged Half a Sixpence, The Little Prince (it's amazing how cheap these DVDs are), Meet Me in St. Louis, Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines (which I didn't even know was out) and the new DVD of The Umbrellas of Cherbourg. I only got the latter to see if the transfer is better than the French DVD (which is terrific but several years old) and whether the 5.1 sound is great (the French DVD has only a PCM track).
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 01:43:26 PM: Quote from: Jenny on April 06, 2004, 12:13:23 PM

As usual, the brisket made me sick so I had to skip most of the seder. ::)

The highlight of the evening occured as my mother was serving the gefilte fish.
Me: What is it, fish?

LOL. You had better give the book to your mother to read. ;D

Why do you eat brisket it it makes you sick? ???
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 06, 2004, 01:45:00 PM: (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/spezial/Fool/bath.gif)

Third page celebrate with a shower!!!
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Post by: Robin on April 06, 2004, 01:47:00 PM: Quote from: DearReaderLaura on April 06, 2004, 12:29:12 PM
There are men with loud machines all around me today. Across the street they are cutting down palm trees. Next door -- I'm not sure, but I think they are digging up a swimming pool.

I identify, BK...a condominium is going up on the lot next to ours. It's big, and it'll be ug-lee!. The neighborhood association did everything it could to prevent its' being built in the first place, and then to at least get it down to a reasonable size...all to no avail. For the last few months (with a respite during the coldest months of winter), we've been treated to men with loud machines every day of the week. Yes, they work weekends.

On to happier things with the Topic of the Day:

For movies, I was going to go with Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, which I genuinely, truly adore. But since someone else has taken it, I'm going to choose Tim Burton's Mars Attacks!, a movie chock-full of disreputable satire...and lots and lots of Hollywood stars dying hilarious deaths. I honestly think Mars Attacks! is Tim Burton's finest movie to date, and just may be a work of genius. But apparently, I'm the only person on earth with that opinion.

For musicals, I'm going to stay with my first choice, even though some one else (oooooooooohhhh!) beat me to it: Dear World.

For play, I'm going with Dracula by Balderston and Deane. It's really not all that great, but I've enjoyed many productions of it over the years.

For book, I'm going to choose something really obscure. A science-fantasy novel called Autumn Angels by Arthur Byron Cover. I've loaned copies of this one-printing, paperback-only original out over the years, and they never, ever get returned. And every time I see a copy of it in used bookstores, I always buy it. If anyone on this site has actually read this book, I will be bowled over in delighted astonishment.

For CD: I'm happy to say I totally love Rhino's Golden Throats anthology. William Shatner's "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"? Leonard Nimoy's "If I Had a Hammer"? Sebastian Cabot's "It Ain't Me, Babe"? Pure genius. But nothing is quite as brilliant as Jack Webb's "Try a Little Tenderness". Absolutely, utterly priceless.
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 01:49:58 PM: Dan-in-Toronto your Seder by Gord was a touching, bittersweet story. How better to get through the first Seder without your mother.

Jay & Stuart together equal twice the fun, double the laughs. ;D
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Post by: Jenny on April 06, 2004, 01:50:05 PM: Quote from: Jane on April 06, 2004, 01:43:26 PM
Why do you eat brisket it it makes you sick? ???

I'm Jewish. It's a rule.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 06, 2004, 01:50:08 PM: DR Matt H - Thank you for the correction... I shudder to think what Fernando Lamas would look like without his shirt off... now.

Ewwww...

-Time to head back into "Eden" for a few hours...
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 01:53:43 PM: Quote from: Jenny on April 06, 2004, 01:50:05 PM
I'm Jewish. It's a rule.

;D ;D Not in this Jewish house-no way! ;D
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on April 06, 2004, 01:54:34 PM: Guilty Pleasures?

TV: King of Queens
Movie(s): Matt Helm series
Book(s): Unauthorized celebrity biographies
Musical: A tie: How Now Dow Jones; Anya

Add my name to the list of Al Carmines fans. Promenade is a pleasure, but there's no guilt by association.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 06, 2004, 02:02:06 PM: BK, MAGNIFICENT MEN has been out for a few weeks. Look forward to reading your thoughts on it.

I popped in YOU'LL NEVER GET RICH today and was disappointed with yet another Columbia transfer. Lots of dirt and no effort to clean it up at all that I could tell. Looking at something like DARK PASSAGE and then at this makes me boiling mad. I know, negatives of different films are in different states of disrepair, but it's maddening to see some of these half-hearted efforts from Columbia.
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 02:08:45 PM: I spent at least to hours at the vets today. Yesterday Echo had her stitches removed and last night one of the incisions completely opened up. She is now stapled shut & Keith is calling her Frankenstein. Since her surgery it has been one thing after another. First it was blood in her stools so we took her off the antibiotics. Then she stepped on something, possibly barbed wire, and received a puncture wound between her toes which had to be flushed. She didn’t like that at all and was hurting all night but we couldn’t give her any aspirin because of the blood. Because of the puncture wound we put her on an herbal antibiotic, something I had never heard of. Now, thanks to the stapling, she is on another antibiotic along with pills for her stomach and a special diet for stress induced colitis. Once again she isn’t allowed to run & play, not that she feels like it today. I’m sure tomorrow she will return to her happy, energetic self. But for today we are all tired, frustrated and feeling a bit blue.
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 02:13:13 PM: Oh, and to add to today's fun, our neighbor was a real .

Nope, I won't say it. Let's just say he upset us. ::)
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Post by: Jay on April 06, 2004, 02:48:05 PM: Oh Dear Reader Jane....

I hope you and DD Echo are back to being yourselves real soon.

Perhaps DR/DB Stuart and I can regale you with stories from when we each were learning to drive to cheer you up.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on April 06, 2004, 02:52:30 PM: Good Recovery Vibes ECHO, Echo, echo .................

And to DR Jane's neighbor: Cool It!
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 02:52:35 PM: Please do :D
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 02:53:43 PM: Thanks Dan-in-Toronto 8)
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Post by: Emily on April 06, 2004, 03:04:11 PM: Speaking of guilty pleasures...

With my pockets empty and my mind turned to mush from paper writing I have become especially prone to the curse of trashy reading.

Yes dear Hainsies, I have begun to raid my grandmother's book shelf.

So far I have read a highly self-indulgent Katherine Hepburn autobiography AND a tell-all about Wallis Simpson from the early 70s called... drumroll please... "The Woman He Loved".

I feel dirty. I also have the sudden urge to get involved with a married or otherwise unattainable man ;)
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Post by: Emily on April 06, 2004, 03:06:52 PM: Get well Echo!
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Post by: Robin on April 06, 2004, 03:07:08 PM: Quote from: Dan-in-Toronto on April 06, 2004, 02:52:30 PM
Good Recovery Vibes ECHO, Echo, echo...

...echo, echo, echo...

When our cat, Bruiser, was ill altogether too recently, I was so distraught...but a decent vet, a special diet and some patented HHW "good vibes" seemed to be just what the beast needed...

So here's some "In the Pink" GOOD VIBES!!!
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 06, 2004, 03:10:45 PM: DR Jane, I'm sending all my good thoughts today to Echo. I hope everything turns out well.
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Post by: Tomovoz on April 06, 2004, 03:13:03 PM: The very best of healing vibes to Echo from Magnus & Fosca.
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Post by: MBarnum on April 06, 2004, 03:14:05 PM: Poor Echo! My golly but he has had it rough lately! Well here are some very good vibes being sent his way...

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%] :D :D :D :D :D :D :o :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [/move]

And I thought you lived out in the country and didn't have to deal with neighbors! Well, I hope your neighbor quickly gets over whatever is getting his/her knickers in a twist!
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Post by: MBarnum on April 06, 2004, 03:15:57 PM: Singer Sylvia Froos passed away at age 89 in New York. Among other things she appeared opposite John Boles doing a lovely but sad duet in my favorite musical STAND UP AND CHEER (1934).

Don't know if you all are familiar with her or not, but she had a lovely voice.
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 03:18:08 PM: Emily, thanks and the picture is oh, so cute.

Robin, thank you and we are glad Bruiser is now feeling in the pink himself.

Elmore3003 Echo & I thank you for the good thoughts.

:D :D :D
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 03:22:34 PM: All these good vibes are making me feel better already. :D

Echo is taking a nap now so I will thank Magnus & Fosca for her.

MBarnum, so far there is only one house on our street. ;D
And thanks for the vibes.
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Post by: Laura II on April 06, 2004, 03:32:21 PM: DR Jane, good health vibes to Echo! [move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[/move]

DR Jenny, don't be embarrassed about the book title! I've always wanted to read that series, just haven't gotten around to it.

I used to love the Betsy-Tacy series. Is anyone else familiar with it?
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Post by: bk on April 06, 2004, 04:23:55 PM: Finished writing for the day. Didn't move forward much, but added five pages over four different chapters to flesh out certain things. I find it hard to believe but I'm in the home stretch of this thing, nine weeks after starting it.
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Post by: bk on April 06, 2004, 04:25:09 PM: My brain is behaving poorly - I thought there were over ninety posts a few minutes ago.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 06, 2004, 04:38:02 PM: 90 posts?

But this is only 89!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 06, 2004, 04:38:12 PM: This one is 90!
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 04:50:19 PM: Thanks Laura II. I’m not familiar with the books so looked them up & found Bette Midler loves them.

Tomorrow morning my Wednesday hiking group is taking the annual hike on Table Rock to see the wildflowers. Dogs aren’t allowed & I usually don’t go. However I think I will sneak out tomorrow morning & go. I won’t feel so guilty walking without Echo now.
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Post by: Danise on April 06, 2004, 04:54:40 PM: Hi folks! I’m back!

Let me get this rant off my chest and all will back to rights and I also promise not to mention it again. :-)

I just want to say that I never knew that sinus had anything to do with teeth. I never knew that teeth could hurt as badly as mine did. My most sincere wish is that none of you have that kind pain EVER! I would never even wish what happened to me to happen to my worst enemy. I mean that.

The night guard isn’t as bad as I thought it would be. I had the thing you see football players use in mind for what it would look like. I didn’t think I could breath with something that large in my mouth. It turned out to be very light and clear. It fits so snug you don’t even know it’s there. I don’t think I’ll have to much of a problem getting used to it. I say that now but we see.

I learned two very valuable lessons from this.

1.) Doctor Danise is a quack who practices medicine without a license. In her considered opinion, I was going to lose at least 4 teeth and wouldn’t THAT have been too too with my trips coming up? I can see myself as gap toothed in NYC. Ye ha. Just call me vain that way.

2.) When your teeth start to hum, do NOT assume it is because they don’t know the words. Get thee to a dentist/doctor ASAP!

My teeth started to hurt the Saturday before last but did I take the time to get to the dentist on Monday, NOOOO, I waited until Thursday. By then I was in real trouble. Happy April Fools Day to me! I was a fool alright.

Now that I’ve rejoined the ranks of the carnivores (no more soft food for me!) I can’t begin to tell you how much I’m looking forward to my first steak tomorrow night. Yum! At this point, I don’t think I can look at another banana.

I shall make merry and dance the horta and eat and eat and eat. Well, as long as it’s low carb. ;D

I’m sorry for any birthdays, vibes and anything else I’ve missed out on. GOOD VIBES to all! Errr except for teeth. No more vibrating teeth. Ever.

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I was so out of it, I didn’t realize this Sunday was Easter and we all know what means, don’t we? Jrand may have tried to tell me but I was in such a daze I didn’t catch it. I need to change my dress to my Easter clothes! I need an Easter bonnet! I shall fix that post haste and be back.

Being out from work on Thursday and Friday put me a little behind on my reading but I did read yesterday and today, for example.

My four o’clocks are starting to come up! I’m very excited to see what colors they turn out to be. I was going to plant each seed but then thought they aren’t like that in the field and look beautiful. I just mixed the different colored seeds in my hand, sprinkled them on the ground and hoped for the best.

Thank you, Jane for all the e-mails. They really did help. :)
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 06, 2004, 05:28:52 PM: Great news and advice DRDanise.

Tomorrow will absolutely be better DRJANE!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on April 06, 2004, 05:29:38 PM: So glad you are feeling better, Danise. I knew that sinus trouble can cause tooth pain. I'm glad your dentist caught it.
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Post by: bk on April 06, 2004, 05:59:52 PM: Where in tarnation IS everyone?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 06, 2004, 06:03:37 PM: DR Danise: I hope you are not, mouth breather that you are, a heavy snorer.

Why?

Because you may awaken one morning and not know where your mouthguard is.

I wore one for years. At some point during the night, the guard would go sailing out of my mouth and land hither, thither and yon.

Once, one of the cats decided it was a toy. I never used it again.

I use Breathe Right strips now...have used them for 10 years and they really help.
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 06, 2004, 06:18:12 PM: Quote from: bk on April 06, 2004, 05:59:52 PM
Where in tarnation IS everyone?

I'm in Tarnation, and it's not a New York State of Mind. I check in and read the posts and if I have anything to add, I add it. The TOTD seems to have slowed down a mite.

I had a good time with Miss Charlotte Raines at SCOOBY DOO 2, and I'm back here working on Mickey & Judy. I was invited to a preview performance of a comedy group at the Houseman tonight, but I had to work on the pops thing instead. The producer's got another number to give me tomorrow morning. 'Night, all! I'll check in and read some more posts later.
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Post by: Robin on April 06, 2004, 06:35:25 PM: Quote from: bk on April 06, 2004, 05:59:52 PM
Where in tarnation IS everyone?

I dunno 'bout you, but I was watching Frasier, which guest-starred two (count 'em, two) of my favorite actresses...Jennifer Tilly and the divine Laura Linney, whom I have a crush on, even though I'm not inclined in her direction if you know what I mean and I think you do.
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Post by: TCB on April 06, 2004, 06:35:32 PM: Okay, where are the ham chunks, the party hats, and the streamers??? I just saw that we had gone over 36000 posts a little earlier, so I was sure there must have been a party going on at this here site.

(http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/party/party-smiley-006.gif)

Oh!
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 06:44:14 PM: JRand53, all the good vibes and wishes are beginning to work. Echo barked awhile ago, a sign that she is a bit better. So yes, tomorrow should be better.

RLP images of your flying mouth guard & the cat are hysterical. My children almost lost a couple of mouth contraptions to pets, from leaving them in various locations, not from snoring.

Danise I look forward to your Easter bonnet-and you are very welcome.

TCB we were waiting for you.

I’m feeling much better now. :D
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Post by: td on April 06, 2004, 06:45:12 PM: [move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]MINX WISHES ECHO WELL WITH GOOD VIBES[/move]

. . .and adding to TOD:

I admit it, I listen to Backstreet Boys. ;)
I also listen to Josh Groban. ;)
and then, I also listen to Lang Lang. ;)

MUSICAL WISE, I'd say that THERE'S NO BUSINESS LIKE SHOW BUSINESS is worthy of guilty-pleasure viewing.
The Jose Ferrer-directed STATE FAIR is a hoot and a holler! Especially, Missy Ann-Margret's "Isn't It Kinda Fun?" which I nominate as the finest example of guilty-pleasure musical sequences.
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Post by: Danise on April 06, 2004, 06:54:11 PM: Back with my Easter outfit. It’s the best I could do on short notice.

As for snoring. I can assure you that I have never heard myself snore and being the lady I am, I am sure that if I did so it would be soft as a sigh.

The stories of the car alarms that were set off three floors above and below the one time I took a nap in a friends car at lunch are a set of cruel lies told by extremely jealous people. Besides, the wind was blowing very hard that day (I’m sure) and the building must have been shook. ::) :D

Best vibes to Echo, Jane!

Well, I have to go give this new Night Guard a try. Have a good evening all~
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 06:59:42 PM: [move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]THANK YOU MINX![/move]
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 07:18:28 PM: Danise I think I like your Easter outfit the best. :D
Will you be able to post a photo of your four o’clocks?
Thanks for the good vibes. :D
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 07:38:50 PM: My father’s condo closed escrow today. I’m happy & relieved, yet it’s somewhat bittersweet. My sister’s condo will be closing soon (not that I ever wanted to go there). It all just feels strange. When I return to LA these places will no longer be part of my life, yet I will drive by or near them often.

On that thought what new place shall I visit when we are in LA next month? That place where the HHW gathering will be. :D
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Post by: TCB on April 06, 2004, 08:00:16 PM: (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/party/party-smiley-050.gif)

Well, I'm trying.
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Post by: George on April 06, 2004, 08:08:28 PM: Guilty Pleasures? There ain't no guilt in pleasure! ;) If I like something, I like it and don't apologize for it.

Otherwise, "Xanadu" and "There's No Business Like Show Business" are about the only things that I could say qualify as "guilty pleasures." I can't think of any play or musical that I really like that no one else does. There are a lot that I know of that most don't, but that's not the same thing.

Anyway, my computer is still dead. :'( I hope it's not a hopeless case. My sister's boyfriend (my tech support) hasn't updated me on it's condition since yesterday when he lost the eBay auction for a new motherboard for my computer.
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Post by: Jenny on April 06, 2004, 08:09:37 PM: Poor Echo! My dear poodle, Buttons, and I wish her a speedy recovery.

Quote from: Laura II on April 06, 2004, 03:32:21 PM
DR Jenny, don't be embarrassed about the book title! I've always wanted to read that series, just haven't gotten around to it.

Skip them, Laura. They're really not very good.
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Post by: Michael on April 06, 2004, 08:11:50 PM: A mixed day. Went to three different stores and ended up over paying for Meet Me in St. Louis. Have disc trouble with the #1. So back it goes tomorrow. But what I would like to know how much of an improvement is it really? Compared to the clips in the documentaries it is night and day, but compared to previous video releases how does it stack up. I was expecting something truely revolutionary with this new restoration process, and watched in on my HD TV but nothing special. And why aren't the lyrics to the songs present with the english lyrics but are available on closes captioning. This is not the first musical I have noticed it. Hello, Dolly was another.
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 06, 2004, 08:13:02 PM: Oh yes STATE FAIR and XANADU...I am beginning to think I don't watch anything but guilty pleasures.

DRCHARLESPOGUE'S DOA is on AMC in a bit!
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Post by: Michael on April 06, 2004, 08:13:44 PM: as for the mixed day my father went in for another operation to clear up an infection that another doctor left behind! My sister called during the day at work. Something she never does. And of ourse I thought the worse. But he pulled through fine and is resting.
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 06, 2004, 08:14:00 PM: I know what you mean DRMS....and DRMBARNUM will tell you....everything on a Bollywood DVD is captioned EXCEPT the musical numbers!
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Post by: Michael on April 06, 2004, 08:15:47 PM: Oh yes I forgot to mention. My front door was replaced (Exciting I know but trying to get those posting up)

And my limited edition painting peter ellenshaw's Mary Poppins floating over Victorian England has arrived. Going to see it to tomorrow.
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Post by: Michael on April 06, 2004, 08:18:35 PM: And talking of Mary Poppins I also noticed in Best Buy that those Mary Poppins kids are also in The Gnome Mobile. Not sure if I ever saw that film.

Half a Sixpence was $9.99 at Best Buy, $14.99 at Borders and $16.99 at Barnes and Noble. (All regular prices and not sale prices) I
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2004, 08:21:22 PM: Michael Shayne GOOD VIBES to your father.

Jenny & Buttons, thank you.

TCB and a fine job you are doing. :D So well in fact I’m all partied out and must say goodnight.

Goodnight.
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Post by: Jenny on April 06, 2004, 08:22:33 PM: A completely random musing upon revisiting the HBO "Angels In America": I suppose the cut scene where Prior and Belize sing "Hark! The Herald Angels Sing" isn't really important, but whenever Prior encounteres the angel, she sings "Glory to..." as she leaves. As in "Glory to...the newborn king." Without Prior equating her visits to that song, her singing those two words doesn't make much sense.

::Shrugs::
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 06, 2004, 08:31:00 PM: Well, not my DOA...but something that bears a vague resemblance to it...
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 06, 2004, 08:37:10 PM: Ah....a distinction that bears repeating I imagine...LOL.
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Post by: Panni on April 06, 2004, 08:51:57 PM: Good vibes to Michael Shayne'd dad!
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Post by: Panni on April 06, 2004, 08:52:39 PM: ECHO - ABIE SENDS GOOD VIBES!
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Post by: Panni on April 06, 2004, 08:54:47 PM: [move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]PAGE FIVE DANCE!!![/move]

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Post by: TCB on April 06, 2004, 09:00:13 PM: Best wishes to Michael Shayne's father.

My two kids send their best to Echo

.............and so do I.
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Post by: MBarnum on April 06, 2004, 09:10:13 PM: Quote from: JRand53 on April 06, 2004, 08:14:00 PM
I know what you mean DRMS....and DRMBARNUM will tell you....everything on a Bollywood DVD is captioned EXCEPT the musical numbers!

And it is most annoying too! LOL
Actually some of the Bollywood movies I have do have the songs subtitled...it is about 50/50...some do some don't. Don't know why some don't, because often the song is an important part of the plot!

As I recall BHOOT BUNGLA had the songs subtitled.
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Post by: MBarnum on April 06, 2004, 09:14:36 PM: Jane, enjoy your hike on Table Rock! I can remember hiking up there a couple of times as a kid. Beautiful place!

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]More vibes to Echo ;D :D ;) :) :( :-* ;D :D :) ;) :o 8) [/move]

And here is a pic from my neices wedding!

Pictured is my grand neice Taylor, my sister Sue, and me!
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Post by: Matt H. on April 06, 2004, 09:22:58 PM: AMERICAN IDOL featured a night of pitch problems and too many singers going for low notes they just don't have. Only two singers, I felt, gave performances without said problems: George Huff and Jennifer Hudson.

Fantasia didn't have pitch problems, but she had to screech to get to several of her high notes, and it was definitely unpleasant. Surprisingly, when I did my little call-every-number to see who was busy, her line was NOT busy!

Jon Peter Lewis had more strength in his falsetto notes than I expected, and showed the power I've suspected was there, but at odd moments during the number, he would kind of hesitate like he was going to stop singing or give up of something. The judges called it nervousness creeping into his performances. Not sure if it's that or something else, but it was very weird.

Once again, Camile was dismal beyond endurance trying those low notes she couldn't hit, high notes that were off pitch and that quavery vocal style that's a burden to listen to. I do hope it's her last night.

I was surprised the judges were as tough on John Stevens as they were. I thought it was miles better than last week and as good as "King of the Road" during country week.

Diana and LaToya both had some low pitch problems. Diana was supposedly sick. LaToya had no excuse.
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Post by: Matt H. on April 06, 2004, 09:26:24 PM: I'm envious of those of you who have at least gotten to see MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS. Mine's not scheduled to arrive until later this week, but it goes on the minute it comes.

I have the laserdisc of ST. LOUIS so I'll be able to compare the two. I've never thought the laser was as richly colored as the film should be.
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Post by: bk on April 06, 2004, 09:28:33 PM: I'm through with Half a Sixpence. When I saw it the day it opened, it was perhaps the first film I ever walked out in the middle of. Has it improved with age? Stay tuned for tomorrow's notes.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on April 06, 2004, 09:32:46 PM: Like I said on Sunday, I hate it when we turn the clocks ahead. I've been like a walking zombie at work during the day, then like a running zombie at night (I've never came across a wheelchair bound zombie--maybe there's a movie there.) Anyway, missing that hour's sleep does have a strange effect on me.

But getting to the topic of the day, guilty pleasures:

Movie: Neil Simon's The Cheap Detective. Yeah, it's basically an extended Carol Burnett Show sketch with a lot of cheap jokes, but there's a wonderful cast of comedy actors that delivers every single laugh. This movie cracks me up every time.

Play: Way back around 1978, I saw Terrance McNally's Broadway, Broadway preview in Philly with James Coco and Geraldine Fitzgerald. It was a very funny farce set at an opening night party of what turns out to be a big B'way flop (which was sort of a self-fullfilling prophecy since the play never made it to NYC.)

Musical: Two Gentlemen of Verone. I think the score is a lot of fun. I love singing along to it. We did this musical when I was in college and I was crushed when I wasn't cast as Thurio (I was the Duke, instead.) This was about 1982 and the show still worked. Everyone loved it.

TV: Martha Stewart Living. I find it very comforting to watch her do the things she do.

Book: I love reading (and re-reading) the poetry of Billy Collins. The man knows how to play with words.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on April 06, 2004, 09:36:22 PM: "American Idol" -- and I'm going to differ a bit with DR MattH.

Fantasia was fabulous.

JPL -- he was just great until he stood up and started "moving" -- walking and dancing -- and his voice just started wavering with all his activity. He needs to plant himself and just SING OUT, LEWIS! He has not lived up to promise, but promise continues to show itself. There may not be enough time for him to salvage any of it.

I really liked Jasmine and didn't find her "pitchy" at all.

And that's the theme of tonight's show, by the way, "pitchy" this and "pitchy" that, pitchy, pitchy, pitchy.

DR MattH is much too kind about John Stevens' "performance." It was pretty good, I'll admit in the first minute, but after that it went to hell in a tatty handbasket. And I WOULD LOVE to surgically attach his right arm, hand and all his fingers to his right side in order to keep him from that asinine imitation of Sinatra. One doesn't snap one's fingers in a leisurely loungey sort of way when singing Elton John!

Camile nailed her coffin, I believe.

George was quite good, but he is starting to remind me of parrots when he does all his dipping. Looks like a parrots that raise and lower their necks really fast. He's a good performer, but I'm not sure he comes off as "youthful" or "idol-esque" enough.

Diana -- she keeps exhorting the audience to "Come on now" participate and I'm sick of it. And her songs are always feverishly paced. She needs a good slow ballad to get back on track.

I though LaToya was wonderful. How very ODD it is to me that when I found her performances sadly lacking, everyone was saying how brilliant she was. Now that I've found her last two performances truly special, everyone says how "off" she is. She was in perfect voice and her pitch was dead on.

The fershluganah trouble is the amplification of the freaking orchestra -- it's too loud and you can't hear the singers sing the low notes. To a singer, you CANNOT hear much of what they sing because the music is too damned loud.

Jennifer was powerful, but truth be told I could not make out many of the words she was singing -- she was in her diaphragm and had the husky breathing going on and it's too low for my hearing, along with the loudness of the music (which I heard just fine, thanks). She might as well have forgotten the words for all I got out of it.

This has been true week after week, not just tonight.

It was an okay night for me. Again, the show imposes a type of music on the singers rather than letting them find the music that is best for them -- or WORSE, not having music specialists find those songs and coach them in how to sing them.

Bottom three: Camile, John Stevens and either Diana deGarmo or Jon Peter Lewis. The latter two I have hopes for, but time may be up. Camile, though, and John, should be the next two to go.
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Post by: Jrand73 on April 06, 2004, 09:37:02 PM: Thanks for the picture MBARNUM! Looks like you had a good time!

I am watching still yet another guilty pleasure...ROME ADVENTURE. Lovely photography on location and was there ever a more beautiful 1960's pairing than Troy Donahue and Suzanne Pleshette - actually falling in love on location.... And the music....Al Di La! I remember seeing this at the drive-in and loving it. Still play the album from time to time... Wonder if Suzanne ever plays it?
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Post by: Matt H. on April 06, 2004, 10:01:26 PM: As was true last week, the later singers had busy signals for a long time, but other than John, none of the first five singers had busy signals half an hour after voting started, at least on the East Coast.

I'm thinking bottom three tomorrow will be Camile, Jon Peter, and Fantasia. None of them had busy signals at all tonight.
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Post by: Panni on April 06, 2004, 10:09:00 PM: My daughter returns to San Francisco very early tomorrow (have to get her to the airport by 6 AM). So I won't be posting again tonight. Goodnight, all!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on April 06, 2004, 10:09:33 PM: Good thoughts and vibes for Michaels Shayne's dad.
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Good vibes for Echo
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Post by: Jed on April 06, 2004, 10:39:26 PM: Yesterday Elmore3000 said:
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Yesterday, some friends and I were talking about WONDERFALLS and how we fear Fox will screw up and drop the series.

Well, HERE (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=797&e=2&u=/eo/20040406/en_tv_eo/13852) is a link to the news.
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Post by: Jed on April 06, 2004, 10:43:36 PM: I caught a bit of American Idol tonight... first time I'd seen any in about a month. John and Camille's performances will probably keep me from watching for another month. Ugh!
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Post by: Tomovoz on April 06, 2004, 10:45:01 PM: [quote author=JRand

I am watching still yet another guilty pleasure...ROME ADVENTURE. Lovely photography on location and was there ever a more beautiful 1960's pairing than Troy Donahue and Suzanne Pleshette - actually falling in love on location.... And the music....Al Di La! I remember seeing this at the drive-in and loving it. Still play the album from time to time... Wonder if Suzanne ever plays it?
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Al Di La = another well known song from the European Song Festival (Better known for ABBA). (For new readers - Eurovison is my major guilty pleasure!)
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Post by: Tomovoz on April 06, 2004, 10:47:00 PM: Best of wishes to your dad Michael Shayne.
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Post by: bk on April 06, 2004, 10:52:40 PM: Watching Meet Me in St. Louis. Will have a few words on the transfer in tomorrow's notes.
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Post by: Kerry on April 06, 2004, 11:01:43 PM: Good vibes to all two-legged and four-legged creatures!
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Post by: Tomovoz on April 06, 2004, 11:10:01 PM: Thanks Kerry! And the same to you my friend. I think I qualify in that leg count but I'll check later.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on April 06, 2004, 11:41:23 PM: I actually saw forward motion in John Stevens' performance tonight. It was vocally dicey and tentative (nothing new there), but he took some chances with movement and style which may not have seem like much, but for him were giant leaps. We actually saw he might have a glimmer of personality. More importantly, we saw that he knew he had better show a glimmer of personality. It must have been excruciating for him to let his guard down that much and take the risk he did. I don't know that it was enough to save him for a couple of more weeks, but he seems to have geek/underdog appeal. But as far as Randy calling it a high school performance, I think he's given worse "high school" assembly performances.

If there is any justice Camille, who has been staving off elimination week after week (and who should have never been in this competition), should go...I sure hope so, because I just want to throw a brick at her.

My money for American Idol is on George Huff, he's consistently vocally strong, has not only stage presence, but also commands the stage...and most importantly, seems to be genuinely enjoying himself. It's like he can't wait to get out there each week. He has a performer's heart...he feels like he's home when he's onstage.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on April 06, 2004, 11:53:13 PM: Thanks for all the AMERICAN IDOL updates and play by play! I keep forgetting to get updates at intermission. ;)

Good show tonight. And a very good show for the "day back". Everyone really got some good rest and relaxation, and it really showed in a very good way. The almost-two opening weeks we had were good, but the scheduling just makes it impossible to really get some decent rest and "recovery" time. It was great to actually have a real "weekend" this time - rather than just a day off. Heck, even I felt more at ease with my playing - and patch changing(!) tonight. It's sooo nice to finally start having fun! Real fun! -And I've started folding some origami folds! :-) *I really like that Target paper that they were handing out at the Cherry Blossom Festival - it's actually a very nice pattern/design.

Well, I should have been in bed hours ago. I have to transcribe a few songs in the morning. They're more or less classic 60's songs - one by Aretha Franklin, "Every Little Bit Hurts", and one by the Animals, "We Gotta Get Out of This Place". Shouldn't take too long. *Now if any H/Ks have charts for these two songs... -They weren't coming up in the Song-Index listings.

Many GOOD VIBES to those in need!
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Post by: Tomovoz on April 07, 2004, 12:01:58 AM: Brenda Holloway - "Every Little bit Hurts" (1964). Maybe Franklin did it on an album. Just in case it help you locate a chartt for the song. I wouldn't even know where to look (let alone make sense of it).