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Title: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 12:03:19 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes were both all things and considered, and now it is time for you to post until the all things considered cows come home.
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 12:04:03 AM
And the word of the day is: CONGERIES!
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Post by: George on July 08, 2010, 12:24:50 AM
Topic of the Day: :-X ...unless I can think of something that can be posted for all the world to see/read.

;)
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Post by: George on July 08, 2010, 12:25:28 AM
And now, I MUST go to bed.

Good night, all.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 08, 2010, 04:07:17 AM
Good morning, all!

I do believe this morning I have to schlep over to the NYU Dental Clinic to resolve the appointment issue for next Wednesday. If they had a phone number that actually worked, perhaps I could do it by phone, but that would be too easy. It's about an hour trip by subway and bus, so I'll be out of here very shortly. After that, another McGlinnventory morning.

As to my bank account, no movement from the California office, which doesn't surprise me, but I am concerned about what's going on, since my colleague who sent yesterday's bad news has responded to neither of my emails. We're heading to an ugly confrontation and I am not happy about that.

I've got to ponder the TOD; there are a great many foolish things I've done over 60 years. The main concern is, which do I talk about, and which are too painful/embarrassing/humiliating to bring up.
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Post by: John G. on July 08, 2010, 04:57:44 AM
I've had so many blessings over the years that the screw-ups don't readily come to mind. But I think the biggie was in not getting a master's degree right after finishing my bachelor's. It wasn't necessarily back in 1984, but it's necessary now. And I may be correcting that by starting on a master's in the fall or spring.

 
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Post by: John G. on July 08, 2010, 05:00:12 AM
BK, glad you liked "Dragon Tattoo." I felt like you did, that the pacing was wonderful even though the movie was long. Perhaps some of the reaction to the violence was that it was a woman exacting revenge on a man. There is a double standard, even if most people don't want to recognize it -- and that was one of the points of the book and the movie.
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Post by: John G. on July 08, 2010, 05:00:30 AM
Have fun today, y'all.
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Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 05:01:34 AM
Last night I commented that I wouldn't want to watch an amazon download if i had to watch it on my computer.

DR TCB asked why.

Cause my tv is MUCH bigger than my computer screen!
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 05:10:23 AM
re: the movie THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON? TATTOO and BK's review.

It is extremely violent. Not the kind of violence in most movies.  But still the kind that would make many people uncomfortable to watch.

I loved the books. And really liked the movies. And the story has a lot of violence. So obviously they had to include it.  But I don't think that you should say that people who found it too violent don't know what they are saying.  Maybe I have a problem with people who dismiss it simply because of the violence.. But to me the movie is still undeniably violent. And not for anyone under 18.
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Post by: Jrand73 on July 08, 2010, 05:15:22 AM
I don't discuss my mistakes.....you will have to wait for the memoir.
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Post by: Jrand73 on July 08, 2010, 05:16:00 AM
I just listened to the SECOND CD of PP - and I must say I can only echo what others have said and written....it is GLORIOUS!!!
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Post by: Jrand73 on July 08, 2010, 05:17:10 AM
There is nothing NOTHING that could make me be interested in reading a book OR seeing a movie called THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO......just as I have avoided THE SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELING PANTS and THE SECRETS OF THE YA YA SISTERHOOD....

NOTHING!!!
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Post by: Jrand73 on July 08, 2010, 05:18:13 AM
I seem to be ahead by five votes right now.....and I guess if you have two computers with different IP addresses, you can vote twice.....anyway.....thanks everyone.

If you haven't voted yet, please do.

http://splendidmarbles.com/2010/07/06/cartoons/splendid-marbles-cartoon-caption-contest-70/
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jrand73 on July 08, 2010, 05:18:31 AM
Tonight is opening night for BLITHE SPIRIT - and it is what it is.
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Post by: Jrand73 on July 08, 2010, 05:18:44 AM
And today is grocery shopping day.
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Post by: KevinH on July 08, 2010, 05:22:40 AM
I voted, JRand!
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Post by: KevinH on July 08, 2010, 05:30:08 AM
Hello all- I'm back from the UK. 

I think the last I wrote about was the concert in Birmingham on Friday.  Well, on Saturday I took the train to Cheltenham (for the "Cheltenham Festivals").    I saw a short play with Patricia Routledge called "Admission: One Shilling--a Tribute to Myra Hess."  It was about a classical pianist who arranged for concerts to be held in the National Gallery in London during WWII.  All the theatres were closed and she thought the people of London should have some entertainment.    Ms. Routledge sat in a chair and did a monologue (with a script in her lap).  She would speak for a few minutes and then a terrific pianist named Piers Lane played excerpts from classical pieces.    It was well worth seeing.


Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: KevinH on July 08, 2010, 05:35:26 AM
Later than evening I saw the Rodgers and Hammerstein concert again.  Brent and Kim were just great! 

Brent informed me that he'll be doing "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" at the North Shore Music Theatre in Massachusetts from Sept. 21-Oct. 10.   That's one I'd really like to see.

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Post by: KevinH on July 08, 2010, 05:38:33 AM
On Sunday I went to Edinburgh.   My friends, Sandy and Roddy,  picked me up at the airport and we went to their house (about an hour away) in a picturesque little town called Tweedbank.   The next day we went on a little tour, seeing a castle or two and then on a tour of Abbottsford, the home of Sir Walter Scott.  It was a magnificent place.   My friends were the perfect hosts. 
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Post by: Ben on July 08, 2010, 05:39:01 AM
Hey, Kevin, sounds like you had a good time. But then you were in Ireland and England. How could you NOT have a good time?!
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Post by: KevinH on July 08, 2010, 05:40:43 AM
Then it was back home yesterday.  I left the hotel at 8 a.m. (3 a.m. Eastern Time) and didn't get back home until about 9:30 p.m.   Travelling can be exhausting.
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Post by: KevinH on July 08, 2010, 05:42:29 AM
Hey, Kevin, sounds like you had a good time. But then you were in Ireland and England. How could you NOT have a good time?!

You're right, Ben!   And I loved the weather.  I was in the 70's most of the time and I think it was probably in the high 50's Monday evening in Scotland--it was great.   I knew what I was facing when I got back, although it's cooling down a little in DC--it's supposed to be only 95 today!
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: KevinH on July 08, 2010, 05:45:27 AM
I'm home for one day and then leave tomorrow for a wedding near Buffalo.  By next Monday I will have been on 10 planes since June 26!
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Post by: Ginny on July 08, 2010, 05:47:16 AM
Thursday morning greetings!  Today will be a very VERA day for me.  VB is launching their new fall line today and my local enabler retailer is having festivities starting at 10am.  Then, several of my friends are meeting late this afternoon at the Cincinnati signature store and dinner at the Cheesecake Factory.  I'll do most of my shopping at the local shop, because I want her to stay in business.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Kerry on July 08, 2010, 05:48:29 AM
It's already 92 degrees at 5:47 am, so that's more or less an indication f the rest of the day!    :-[ :-\ :P
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Ginny on July 08, 2010, 05:49:39 AM
Welcome back, DR KevinH!  Although not as elaborate as your travels, my husband and I are leaving tomorrow for our 3rd weekend in a row away.  I'm not complaining, but I also haven't even put a lot of my travel gear away for the intervening weekdays.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Ginny on July 08, 2010, 06:01:15 AM
Opening night break-a-leg vibes to DR JRand and the cast & crew of BLITHE SPIRIT!!!
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Post by: KevinH on July 08, 2010, 06:21:03 AM
Thanks, DRGinny-I hope you have a nice weekend away.
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Post by: KevinH on July 08, 2010, 06:21:32 AM
Opening night break-a-leg vibes to DR JRand and the cast & crew of BLITHE SPIRIT!!!

Ditto!
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Ginny on July 08, 2010, 06:28:41 AM
Thanks, DRGinny-I hope you have a nice weekend away.

Thank you, DR KevinH - we're going to see DR Elmore in Canton, OH.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on July 08, 2010, 06:37:37 AM
BK et Al

The Second Movie in The Series Opens Tomorrow

THE GIRL WHO PLAYED WITH FIRE
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Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on July 08, 2010, 06:41:10 AM
And the word of the day is: CONGERIES!

And The Song Of The Day Is: PUTTING IT TOGETHER
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Charles Pogue on July 08, 2010, 06:43:10 AM
JRand, break legs...not martini glasses...
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on July 08, 2010, 06:45:46 AM
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Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Dan (the Man) on July 08, 2010, 06:47:22 AM
Welcome back home, DR KevinH!
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Druxy on July 08, 2010, 07:12:19 AM
JRand,

Break BOTH legs & have a great show!
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Post by: Matthew on July 08, 2010, 07:14:59 AM
TOD - I'm sure there are many mistakes that I wish I could do over.  While it's not great to dwell on them, I'll share one:  Giving up working on a production of Ragtime in order to MD a production of I Love You, You're Perfect, Now Change.  Turned out to be the most frustrating show I've worked on in a long time.  The director (and his partner who was the so-called Choreographer) were just too young and too clueless for the material.  We had 4 fabulous actors that thank goodness had brains in their heads and basically pulled off the show in their own right.  Oh, and the sound designer and I almost came to blows on several occasions over his inability to DO HIS JOB!!   The production of Ragtime was beautiful and made me cry several times - and not because the material was moving!!
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Post by: Druxy on July 08, 2010, 07:16:47 AM
TOD:

I would not have listened to Adela Rogers St. Johns, but would have taken director King Vidor up on his offer to collaborate with him on the book about the William Desmond Taylor murder that would become the best-selling, A CAST OF KILLERS.

I talk, at length, about this unfortunate decision in my forthcoming memoir.

Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Druxy on July 08, 2010, 07:17:56 AM
TOD - I'm sure there are many mistakes that I wish I could do over.  While it's not great to dwell on them, I'll share one:  Giving up working on a production of Ragtime in order to MD a production of I Love You, You're Perfect, Now Change.  Turned out to be the most frustrating show I've worked on in a long time.  The director (and his partner who was the so-called Choreographer) were just too young and too clueless for the material.  We had 4 fabulous actors that thank goodness had brains in their heads and basically pulled off the show in their own right.  Oh, and the sound designer and I almost came to blows on several occasions over his inability to DO HIS JOB!!   The production of Ragtime was beautiful and made me cry several times - and not because the material was moving!!

RAGTIME is one of my favorite musicals. 
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: KevinH on July 08, 2010, 07:26:40 AM
Welcome back home, DR KevinH!

Thanks, DRDan!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 08, 2010, 08:10:27 AM
TOD:

I plead the Fifth!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 08, 2010, 08:11:55 AM
TOD:  I'd have taken advantage of an investment opportunity my Mom suggested to me in the early 1970s.  I wasn't making much at that time (Navy pay was dismal) and could not figure how I'd manage to do with even less than I was getting.

I could have done with less and then some...if I had only known then....sigh.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 08:42:14 AM
BK, glad you liked "Dragon Tattoo." I felt like you did, that the pacing was wonderful even though the movie was long. Perhaps some of the reaction to the violence was that it was a woman exacting revenge on a man. There is a double standard, even if most people don't want to recognize it -- and that was one of the points of the book and the movie.

When I hear from critics and others that a film is ultra-violent, what that means to me is a LOT of bloodletting, knives cutting into skin, squibs, eyes popping out of heads, decapitation shown explicitly, somebody shot in the head in close-up, brains splattering on a wall, entrails being exposed, close-ups of any sort of violent mayhem - you know, explicit violent action.  There is not one shot in Dragon Tattoo like that.  Re the woman exacting revenge - a wonderful scene (I applauded) and again you don't really see anything at all.  Yes, there are disturbing images - mostly shown in photographs and occasional quick flashbacks - these are after the fact images - we do not actually SEE the violence being perpetrated.  That's the big difference between this and a Tarantino film like Kill Bill or Scorsese's Goodfellas, the latter being so violent that I finally turned the movie off.   Maybe people think they're seeing more than is actually on view, which sometimes happens, but I found nothing in this film where I was ready to reach for the remote control to shut it off - same with Silence of the Lambs, which is far more violent than Dragon Tattoo, but is stylized and not overt.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 08:43:24 AM
re: the movie THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON? TATTOO and BK's review.

It is extremely violent. Not the kind of violence in most movies.  But still the kind that would make many people uncomfortable to watch.

I loved the books. And really liked the movies. And the story has a lot of violence. So obviously they had to include it.  But I don't think that you should say that people who found it too violent don't know what they are saying.  Maybe I have a problem with people who dismiss it simply because of the violence.. But to me the movie is still undeniably violent. And not for anyone under 18.

See my post above.  I agree that it's not for anyone under 18.  I'm sure the book reads more violent, but the film?  Not so much.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 08:44:40 AM
Re mistakes - I never dwell on mistakes I've made, but I have no problem talking about them as I have learned from each and every one of the mistakes and the learning has made my life better.
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 08:45:04 AM
And just to be clear - I HATE and LOATHE movies with explicit violent action.
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 08:45:16 AM
And just to be clearer - I am up.
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 08:45:33 AM
And just to be ultra-clear: Get me off this damn page.
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Post by: MBarnum on July 08, 2010, 08:54:25 AM
JRand, I voted the other day and it still won't let me vote again. Hope you win!

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Post by: MBarnum on July 08, 2010, 08:56:37 AM
TOD:

I would have gone to college.

I would have interviewed actor William Boyett before he died.

I would have continued dating that doctor.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 09:06:28 AM
There is nothing NOTHING that could make me be interested in reading a book OR seeing a movie called THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO......just as I have avoided THE SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELING PANTS and THE SECRETS OF THE YA YA SISTERHOOD....

NOTHING!!!

I wouldn't not read a book because of the title. But I actually love the title "the girl with the dragon tattoo". It's one of my favorite titles.
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Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 09:10:16 AM
And just to be clear - I HATE and LOATHE movies with explicit violent action.

There is no explicit violence like those things you listed above. GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO is a different kind of violence. Btw, i'm curious if you and DR Jand watched it dubbed or with English subtitles. I'm curious if the dubbing is any good.

I'm also curious about people's enjoyment if they've read the book vs not having read the book. I knew what was going to happen. So it was different.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 09:14:01 AM
And just to be clear - I HATE and LOATHE movies with explicit violent action.

There is no explicit violence like those things you listed above. GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO is a different kind of violence. Btw, i'm curious if you and DR Jand watched it dubbed or with English subtitles. I'm curious if the dubbing is any good.

I'm also curious about people's enjoyment if they've read the book vs not having read the book. I knew what was going to happen. So it was different.

Ah, the dubbing - I forgot to mention it in the notes, so thanks for bringing it up.  I watched the film in Swedish with subtitles - easy to read and follow and that's the only way I'll watch a foreign film anyway.  After, I switched over to the dubbed track to see what it was like - HORRENDOUSLY BAD.  Especially whoever voiced the lead guy is terrible.  The girl isn't much better, and it's just a typical 1960s-like terrible foreign film dub - it should be avoided like the plague.
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 09:14:59 AM
There is nothing NOTHING that could make me be interested in reading a book OR seeing a movie called THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO......just as I have avoided THE SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELING PANTS and THE SECRETS OF THE YA YA SISTERHOOD....

NOTHING!!!



I wouldn't not read a book because of the title. But I actually love the title "the girl with the dragon tattoo". It's one of my favorite titles.

Interestingly, The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is the English title of the book - the original Swedish title translates to something like Men Who Hate Women.
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 09:15:58 AM
Fifty minutes to telephonic interview.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 08, 2010, 09:16:58 AM
"Lost" finds itself (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2010/07/08/emmy-nominations-are-in-with-tons-of-love-for-lost/) a winner in Emmy nominations!
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Post by: Ginny on July 08, 2010, 09:18:55 AM
TOD - I would have made more use of the (more or less) free recreational facilities at the University of Michigan while an undergrad and graduate student.  Could have taken golf lessons, tennis lessons, figure skating lessons, swimming/diving, etc. and developed some good fitness habits, but back then I considered PE a waste and took just enough to fulfill the requirement to graduate.

And I wouldn't have given up my student housing and moved back in with my parents for my grad school year.  The trade-off was a car, but halfway through I decided it wasn't worth it and moved back to campus.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 08, 2010, 09:23:24 AM
Hello, everyone! I have retrned from all of my errands. My appontment has been moved from Wednesday to next Friday at 10:15, I carted two shopping bags of scores home from the McGlinnventory and we sorted around 7-10 cartons of full orchestra scores into 2 categories, one for the archive or Library of Congress and one for things to be sold.  As one of the heirs, I've been taking things I want and carting them home for the past year. There will still be a ton of scores, full, miniature, and vocal for sale. Some of them are amazing, lije the original Full Score and Vocal Score for the first version of MADAME BUTTERFLY, which is a harsher version than the one normally performed.

This afternoon at 3, I see Ms Rebecca Luker for a rehearsal of the Herbert songs she will record in October, and I have to stop at the bank and deposit a bit of cash to cover two checks until the invoice that should have been taken care of Monday is paid.

DR JRand59, my sister-in-law JoAnn called me to tell me she buried St Joseph this morning. Thank you again!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Opening Night Vibes for DR JRand59! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 08, 2010, 09:25:45 AM
TOD:

I would have continued dating that doctor.


No one could cure you. He was probably afraid of a malpractice suit.
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 09:28:17 AM
This LA weather has been so odd.  It is completely overcast and gray out.  Yesterday it was the same - until four, at which point the sun came out and it got really hot for two hours, then cooled down instantly.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 08, 2010, 09:29:26 AM
Thanks, DRGinny-I hope you have a nice weekend away.

Thank you, DR KevinH - we're going to see DR Elmore in Canton, OH.

Bring extra money. I may need a loan to get back to Manhattan!
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Post by: DERBRUCER on July 08, 2010, 09:31:37 AM
the original Full Score and Vocal Score for the first version of MADAME BUTTERFLY, which is a harsher version than the one normally performed.


"Harsher"  in dramatic content or "Harsher" in musical execution?

der Brucer
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 08, 2010, 09:37:13 AM
the original Full Score and Vocal Score for the first version of MADAME BUTTERFLY, which is a harsher version than the one normally performed.


"Harsher"  in dramatic content or "Harsher" in musical execution?

der Brucer

Dramatic context; Pinkerton's a complete sexist bigot with no final aria. There are a lot of minor changes as well.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: MBarnum on July 08, 2010, 09:38:24 AM
Great leg breaking vibes for JRand, cast and crew!
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Post by: MBarnum on July 08, 2010, 09:46:56 AM
A couple of reminders, for those that care and those that dare....


DRAGNET 1968 season was released this week...lots of interviews with with cast members and my friend Jackie Loughery, who was Jack Webb's wife for a time (a horrible experience, it was).


And, the new season of the competition show BIG BROTHER begins tonight! Next to THE AMAZING RACE, it is my favorite show of it's type.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: DERBRUCER on July 08, 2010, 09:54:19 AM


Dramatic context; Pinkerton's a complete sexist bigot with no final aria. There are a lot of minor changes as well.

Well, Pinkerton expressing the giref he will have to bear does show "consequences".

Is the "harsher" version the Two Act Opera he later revised to three?

der Brucer

Time sure wreaks havoc on paper backs (and their readers). My poor Milton Cross Opera book has all the now-brown pages falling from the deteriortating spine - the book was pinted in 1955!
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Post by: DERBRUCER on July 08, 2010, 09:58:17 AM
..those that dare....

Those that dare keep dating Doctors :D

der Brucer
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Post by: Ginny on July 08, 2010, 10:29:42 AM
Thanks, DRGinny-I hope you have a nice weekend away.

Thank you, DR KevinH - we're going to see DR Elmore in Canton, OH.

Bring extra money. I may need a loan to get back to Manhattan!

LOL, DR Elmore!  Will it help if we feed you while we're there?
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 10:30:52 AM
Just had a very nice telephonic interview with the gal who writes for Marilyn Beck.  I'll post a link whenever it shows up.
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Post by: elmore3003 on July 08, 2010, 11:18:02 AM
Thanks, DRGinny-I hope you have a nice weekend away.

Thank you, DR KevinH - we're going to see DR Elmore in Canton, OH.

Bring extra money. I may need a loan to get back to Manhattan!

LOL, DR Elmore!  Will it help if we feed you while we're there?

If that transfer doesn't happen before Monday, I may be in serious trouble and i am not happy about it,
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: elmore3003 on July 08, 2010, 11:25:56 AM


Dramatic context; Pinkerton's a complete sexist bigot with no final aria. There are a lot of minor changes as well.

Well, Pinkerton expressing the giref he will have to bear does show "consequences".

Is the "harsher" version the Two Act Opera he later revised to three?


Yep! After the 1904 premier at La Scala, he had three or four months to make changes for the next performances in Brescia. Act Two was divided, a scene at the American Consulate was cut (I think), and there were other adjustments as well. I think the opera went through two revisions and the final version is essentially the third.
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Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 11:40:20 AM
Last night I commented that I wouldn't want to watch an amazon download if i had to watch it on my computer.

DR TCB asked why.

Cause my tv is MUCH bigger than my computer screen!

;D
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 11:42:56 AM
There is nothing NOTHING that could make me be interested in reading a book OR seeing a movie called THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO......just as I have avoided THE SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELING PANTS and THE SECRETS OF THE YA YA SISTERHOOD....

NOTHING!!!

That isn't what you would be watching.  The true title of the movie is MEN WHO HATE WOMEN which is also the original title of the book.  Can you watch it now? ;)
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 11:43:31 AM

WELCOME HOME DR KevinH!
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Opening night break-a-leg vibes to DR JRand and the cast & crew of BLITHE SPIRIT!!!

DITTO!!!
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 11:45:28 AM
BK et Al

The Second Movie in The Series Opens Tomorrow

THE GIRL WHO PLAYED WITH FIRE

:D
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 11:48:40 AM
And just to be clear - I HATE and LOATHE movies with explicit violent action.

There is no explicit violence like those things you listed above. GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO is a different kind of violence. Btw, i'm curious if you and DR Jand watched it dubbed or with English subtitles. I'm curious if the dubbing is any good.

I'm also curious about people's enjoyment if they've read the book vs not having read the book. I knew what was going to happen. So it was different.

If you watch it again I suggest you watch it with English subtitles and experience the actors voices.  Cilla is correct that these subtitles are easier than most.

Keith, like Bruce, had not read the book.  He gave the movie five stars.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 12:09:21 PM
I personally felt The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo was one of the best adaptations of a book to a movie I have seen.  Where DR Jennifer was bothered by the changes, or deletions, from the novel I felt it was an improvement.  Most of the changes were the parts I wasn't keen on in the book.

There was not one bit of gratuitous violence in the movie and every moment was necessary to the story.  They could easily have made it more visual.  I agree with Bruce, excellent presentation. 

I also noticed the terrific music score and I don't always do that.  What I didn't notice was how long the movie is.

I had been nervous about the casting and how I would feel about the two leads.  Now it is difficult to imagine anyone else in the roles.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 12:10:00 PM
From Cilla:
Quote
We can still talk on the phone, eat dinner, put on make up, read the paper, watch tv....do anything but text

 ;D
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 12:10:17 PM
DR DB, cute kitten photo.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 12:10:31 PM
DR MBarnum, how is DD Bosco?
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 12:11:54 PM
There is nothing NOTHING that could make me be interested in reading a book OR seeing a movie called THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO......just as I have avoided THE SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELING PANTS and THE SECRETS OF THE YA YA SISTERHOOD....

NOTHING!!!

I'll get 5 people to vote for you if you see the movie ;)   Would it help you to know that the Swedish title is Men Who Hate Women?
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 12:12:51 PM
BK et Al

The Second Movie in The Series Opens Tomorrow

THE GIRL WHO PLAYED WITH FIRE

Same cast?
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 12:15:59 PM
And just to be clear - I HATE and LOATHE movies with explicit violent action.

There is no explicit violence like those things you listed above. GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO is a different kind of violence. Btw, i'm curious if you and DR Jand watched it dubbed or with English subtitles. I'm curious if the dubbing is any good.

I'm also curious about people's enjoyment if they've read the book vs not having read the book. I knew what was going to happen. So it was different.

Ah, the dubbing - I forgot to mention it in the notes, so thanks for bringing it up.  I watched the film in Swedish with subtitles - easy to read and follow and that's the only way I'll watch a foreign film anyway.  After, I switched over to the dubbed track to see what it was like - HORRENDOUSLY BAD.  Especially whoever voiced the lead guy is terrible.  The girl isn't much better, and it's just a typical 1960s-like terrible foreign film dub - it should be avoided like the plague.

When i saw the movie in january i had a choice of Swedish with French subtitles or dubbed French with French subtitles. Since French is my second language I didn't think I would find it easy to listen to Swedish and try to read French. So i watched the dubbed version. And i thought it was really well done. Although i don't really watch dubbed movies to know how it would compare.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 12:18:30 PM
Ok, I didn't read all the posts before posting the Swedish title of the movie, funny how many of us mentioned it.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 12:20:18 PM
BK et Al

The Second Movie in The Series Opens Tomorrow

THE GIRL WHO PLAYED WITH FIRE

Same cast?

I believe they filmed all three movies consecutively.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 12:23:55 PM
I went to lunch with Paul today and he said he stopped at a friend's house last night just in time to watch....you guessed it "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo"  .  He absolutely loved it.   We discussed the violence and he said he didn't notice any....then he said ....well I guess... and went on to describe the "exacting revenge" 
I agree with those who say it wasn't a violent film in terms of seeing graphic violence.  I was very impressed by that.  I thought the book was much more violent. 
I think I have one more day on the download.  I may watch it tonight....then again, i may clean house
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 12:24:43 PM
So Paul said they found a partially finished 4th novel in Sieg Larsson's computer when he died.  Is that a rumor or is it true?
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 12:25:24 PM
And just to be clear - I HATE and LOATHE movies with explicit violent action.

There is no explicit violence like those things you listed above. GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO is a different kind of violence. Btw, i'm curious if you and DR Jand watched it dubbed or with English subtitles. I'm curious if the dubbing is any good.

I'm also curious about people's enjoyment if they've read the book vs not having read the book. I knew what was going to happen. So it was different.

If you watch it again I suggest you watch it with English subtitles and experience the actors voices.  Cilla is correct that these subtitles are easier than most.

Keith, like Bruce, had not read the book.  He gave the movie five stars.

Yeah if my library gets the movie i will definitely watch it with English subtitles. But i'd also like to try the dubbed version.  I am curious if the dubbed version is shown anywhere?

For some reason I feel like the french dubbed version would be what they show in theatres here. But i'm not sure. If the English dubbed version is only for the dvd maybe they took less care than the french dubbing to get good voices.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 12:25:45 PM
DR Jane does Keith want to read the book now?
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 12:26:00 PM
Jennifer it is possible the French dubbing is better than the English. 
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 12:26:52 PM
I had been nervous about the casting and how I would feel about the two leads.  Now it is difficult to imagine anyone else in the roles.

That is too funny! ;)


Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 12:27:06 PM
DR Jane does Keith want to read the book now?

No.  He doesn't read much anymore.  He spends his time working on the computer doing genealogy research.  For fun he plays computer games. 
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 12:27:42 PM
The Girl Who Played With Fire may be a bit more violent....but the trailer for the first one looked like it would be more violent

This is for the second movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9G4GiUxJek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9G4GiUxJek)
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 12:28:10 PM
So Paul said they found a partially finished 4th novel in Sieg Larsson's computer when he died.  Is that a rumor or is it true?

True.  Don't expect to ever read it.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 12:29:04 PM
Jennifer it is possible the French dubbing is better than the English. 

I'm not really an expert on dubbing. So i don't know how the french version compares to other french versions. But all blockbuster movies play here in french. So they dub everything.

I just didn't think i would be able to follow the subtitles in french. I thought it would be too fast. Watching it in french while reading the french was much easier for me to follow.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 12:29:31 PM
The Girl Who Played With Fire may be a bit more violent....but the trailer for the first one looked like it would be more violent

This is for the second movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9G4GiUxJek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9G4GiUxJek)

LOL.  I read the second book and am expecting more violence.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 12:31:33 PM
The Girl Who Played With Fire may be a bit more violent....but the trailer for the first one looked like it would be more violent

This is for the second movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9G4GiUxJek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9G4GiUxJek)

Exciting-thanks.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 12:31:51 PM
Time to go to the library and then PT.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 12:32:21 PM
So Paul said they found a partially finished 4th novel in Sieg Larsson's computer when he died.  Is that a rumor or is it true?

True.  Don't expect to ever read it.

His father has the rights to it and doesn't want to publish it. DR Jane and i have been discussing this. I think that if it is a really good outline (which is what i heard) then the father should get the same translator and another author he trusts to do it. Obviously the fans would go crazy for it.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 12:33:25 PM
The Girl Who Played With Fire may be a bit more violent....but the trailer for the first one looked like it would be more violent

This is for the second movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9G4GiUxJek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9G4GiUxJek)

I saw the GIRL WHO PLAYED WITH FIRE dvd. It came out here a few months ago.  I know it was violent. But I don't remember if it was more or less than the first movie.

However if you liked the first movie i'm sure you'll all like the second one.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 12:38:29 PM
DR Cillaliz, re: that youtube clip. You were right. They say so much in Swedish and then put that in one line!

I guess I don't watch enough foreign films. Because Swedish sounds so complex to my ears.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: DERBRUCER on July 08, 2010, 12:49:55 PM
So Paul said they found a partially finished 4th novel in Sieg Larsson's computer when he died.  Is that a rumor or is it true?

You be the judge:

NY TIMES MAGAZINE (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/23/magazine/23Larsson-t.html?_r=1&ref=general&src=me&pagewanted=all)


(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/05/23/magazine/23Larsson-2/23Larsson-t_CA2-popup.jpg)
Lars Tunbjork for The New York Times

Eva Gabrielsson, Larsson's partner, in Stockholm. Excluded in the division of his estate, she still has a coveted possession: an unfinished fourth novel.

Quote

Legally Gabrielsson has no claim, but she has asserted a kind of moral entitlement. She also has a crucial piece of the Larsson legacy: a laptop computer containing roughly three-quarters of a fourth novel.

As for the novel on the laptop, she said she hoped that it would never be published. “They have made enough money, which is their main objective,” she said, referring to the Larssons. But the manuscript is her only bargaining chip, and she may be in the best position to know what needs to be done to make the text publishable. John-Henri Holmberg has guessed that because of the way Larsson wrote, often working on more than one book at a time, there may be a fair amount of outline and even actual text for a fifth book and possibly a sixth. The computer files are an enormously valuable property, because of readers’ appetites for more Larsson and because, as Scott Rudin suggested to me, of the movie potential. At the moment, film producers have rights to only the three published novels. A new contract could conceivably liberate Blomkvist and Salander from books altogether and allow them, like James Bond, to go on having movie adventures indefinitely.
...


der Brucer

The link is to a very long detailed article on the author and his life/estate
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: MBarnum on July 08, 2010, 01:04:22 PM
DR MBarnum, how is DD Bosco?

He is holding on. I got him to eat yesterday and Tuesday, but he wouldn't eat this morning. Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: DERBRUCER on July 08, 2010, 01:08:41 PM
DR MBarnum, how is DD Bosco?

He is holding on. I got him to eat yesterday and Tuesday, but he wouldn't eat this morning. Thanks for asking.

Just hold onto the strength to let him go when it's time.

der Brucer
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: MBarnum on July 08, 2010, 01:10:47 PM
I have not seen very many Swedish films, so I am sort of intrigued by the discussion of the dragon tattooed girl. However, I may just wait for the Bollywood version. I prefer musical numbers in my violent revenge dramas.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Laura on July 08, 2010, 01:13:14 PM
(((((MBarnum)))))
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: DERBRUCER on July 08, 2010, 01:14:14 PM
I have not seen very many Swedish films, so I am sort of intrigued by the discussion of the dragon tattooed girl. However, I may just wait for the Bollywood version. I prefer musical numbers in my violent revenge dramas.

How about the best of all worlds:

A Bollywood version of "The Dragon With the Girl Tattoo"

der Brucer
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 01:35:20 PM
Thanks for that link DR Der Brucer.

I get why she would want to use the laptop/manuscript as a bargaining tool. But i don't get why she would want to deny people the chance to read the books.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: DERBRUCER on July 08, 2010, 01:42:55 PM
As predicted by you-know who:

LA TIMES (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2010/07/pasadena-playhouse-emerges-from-chapter-11-bankruptcy.html)

(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0133f225b548970b-500wi)
Quote

Pasadena Playhouse emerges from Chapter 11 bankruptcy
July 8, 2010 |  9:16 am

The Pasadena Playhouse said it emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy on Wednesday after a court in Los Angeles approved the theater company's plans for reorganization. The company also said that it has received a matching pledge of $1 million by anonymous donors as part of its fundraising efforts.

Since shutting down its main stage in February, the Pasadena Playhouse has been searching for ways to pay down its debt, which recently stood at $2.3 million, most of it owed to subscribers, bankers and vendors.

In a statement issued on Thursday, Stephen Eich, the playhouse's executive director, said that the company has created a plan "to resurrect the Playhouse from years of unbearable debts. Although we will be moving slowly in the future to ensure financial responsibility and stability, we will in fact be back."

The law firm of Munger, Tolles, and Olson LLC is serving as the company's pro-bono legal team, while Alvarez & Marsal is providing pro-bono financial advising. The playhouse had filed a petition for reorganization under Chapter 11 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code in early May.

The $1-million matching pledge comes from a group of anonymous donors, said the playhouse. The company hopes that the announcement will encourage other donors to step forward to match or exceed the $1-million gift.

The company said that plans for a fall 2010 production will be announced at a later date.


der Brucer
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 01:51:39 PM
That is a very interesting article.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: DERBRUCER on July 08, 2010, 01:53:07 PM
But i don't get why she would want to deny people the chance to read the books.

I suspect this is the cry of a women being scorned - enough money will probably ease the pain. (...and a deal that would include her in the creative process!)

der Brucer
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: George on July 08, 2010, 02:14:17 PM
Opening night break-a-leg vibes to DR JRand and the cast & crew of BLITHE SPIRIT!!!

DITTO!!!


DOUBLE DITTO!!
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: elmore3003 on July 08, 2010, 02:23:12 PM
However, I may just wait for the Bollywood version. I prefer musical numbers in my violent revenge dramas.

I suggest you make this statement into a sampler and hang it over your bed. The next time you wonder why you are single,  it may come in helpful.

Mikey, I send Bosco my best wishes.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: elmore3003 on July 08, 2010, 02:25:53 PM
Ms Becca Luker was as lovely as ever. We had a great Victor Herbert rehearsal, and she seems happy with all her song assignments. Then she and I walked up Broadwat from 73rd Street to the 86th Street subway, catching up and gossiping. I do love her.

And the good news is that the McGlinn estate sent me a check today for last month's work. Thank you, Jesus!
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 02:29:41 PM
As predicted by you-know who:

LA TIMES (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2010/07/pasadena-playhouse-emerges-from-chapter-11-bankruptcy.html)

(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0133f225b548970b-500wi)
Quote

Pasadena Playhouse emerges from Chapter 11 bankruptcy
July 8, 2010 |  9:16 am

The Pasadena Playhouse said it emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy on Wednesday after a court in Los Angeles approved the theater company's plans for reorganization. The company also said that it has received a matching pledge of $1 million by anonymous donors as part of its fundraising efforts.

Since shutting down its main stage in February, the Pasadena Playhouse has been searching for ways to pay down its debt, which recently stood at $2.3 million, most of it owed to subscribers, bankers and vendors.

In a statement issued on Thursday, Stephen Eich, the playhouse's executive director, said that the company has created a plan "to resurrect the Playhouse from years of unbearable debts. Although we will be moving slowly in the future to ensure financial responsibility and stability, we will in fact be back."

The law firm of Munger, Tolles, and Olson LLC is serving as the company's pro-bono legal team, while Alvarez & Marsal is providing pro-bono financial advising. The playhouse had filed a petition for reorganization under Chapter 11 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code in early May.

The $1-million matching pledge comes from a group of anonymous donors, said the playhouse. The company hopes that the announcement will encourage other donors to step forward to match or exceed the $1-million gift.

The company said that plans for a fall 2010 production will be announced at a later date.


der Brucer

But I never say "I told you so" although I told you so :)  There was never any question about the original doom and gloom smoke and mirrors horse manure.  It was always coming back - they knew it and anyone with a brain knew it.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 02:29:51 PM
Back from a very nice lunch.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 08, 2010, 02:40:54 PM

I'm not really an expert on dubbing.


No?  Are you, perhaps, a pretend expert on dubbing?






;)
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 08, 2010, 02:43:41 PM
Because Swedish sounds so complex to my ears.



So...it's like...umm....Greek to you, eh!







;)
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: DERBRUCER on July 08, 2010, 02:50:37 PM
Out of country try-outs?

LA TIMES (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2010/07/sister-act-musical-finally-gets-a-broadway-date.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CultureMonster+%28Culture+Monster%29)

Quote
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0133f226e4db970b-500wi)

'Sister Act' musical finally heading to Broadway

Following productions in Pasadena, Atlanta and London, the stage musical adaptation of "Sister Act" is finally making its way to Broadway.

The show's producers -- including Whoopi Goldberg, who starred in the 1992 Touchstone Pictures film -- said Thursday that the musical will open in New York in the spring of 2011, but they did not specify an opening date or a theater.
...
Producers said they are planning a Hamburg, Germany, production of "Sister Act" that is set to open in December.

der Brucer
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 03:23:50 PM
DR MBarnum, how is DD Bosco?

He is holding on. I got him to eat yesterday and Tuesday, but he wouldn't eat this morning. Thanks for asking.

Just hold onto the strength to let him go when it's time.

der Brucer

VIBES OF STRENGTH AND HUGS!
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 03:39:07 PM
So Paul said they found a partially finished 4th novel in Sieg Larsson's computer when he died.  Is that a rumor or is it true?

You be the judge:

NY TIMES MAGAZINE (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/23/magazine/23Larsson-t.html?_r=1&ref=general&src=me&pagewanted=all)

Eva Gabrielsson, Larsson's partner, in Stockholm. Excluded in the division of his estate, she still has a coveted possession: an unfinished fourth novel.

Quote

Legally Gabrielsson has no claim, but she has asserted a kind of moral entitlement. She also has a crucial piece of the Larsson legacy: a laptop computer containing roughly three-quarters of a fourth novel.

...


der Brucer

The link is to a very long detailed article on the author and his life/estate


"Gabrielsson, now 54, lived with Stieg Larsson from 1974 until his death in 2004. Yet, due to Swedish inheritance laws, she was not entitled to a single krona.  Instead, Larsson’s father and brother, with whom Eva claims Larsson had little contact, inherited the rights to the books."

I don't blame her for holding out.  They should have offered her a three way split.  This is a perfect example of why people should have wills even if they don't want to think about it.  Considering the death threats he received I'm really surprised he didn't have a will.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 04:00:26 PM
(http://www.stieglarsson.com/content/images/list_577/file_59414)

Look at the size of the dragon on the book cover. For those of you who read the book recently-how big should the dragon be?
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 04:04:33 PM
Vibes for DD Bosco!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 04:06:58 PM
I don't blame her for holding out.  They should have offered her a three way split.  This is a perfect example of why people should have wills even if they don't want to think about it.  Considering the death threats he received I'm really surprised he didn't have a will.

It's pretty crazy. I was with her until she said that she does not ever want to see the books published.

I could see if she didn't want his dad to get any more money.

The silly thing is the article says that the father and brother don't even care about money.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jennifer on July 08, 2010, 04:09:19 PM
Gosh i'm driving myself crazy. There is a contest i want to enter that is in French. There are 2 clues. They want the name of a company/business in montreal. The postal code starts with H1Y (there are tons of streets with this). And it says that part of the name contains a nationality.

So i was thinking of "Canadian Pacific" or "American Eagle". The internet which i thought would help (at least showing businesses with that postal code) is not helping me at all.  I have a map and i can sort of see the area. But i don't know where to go from there.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 04:20:55 PM
I don't blame her for holding out.  They should have offered her a three way split.  This is a perfect example of why people should have wills even if they don't want to think about it.  Considering the death threats he received I'm really surprised he didn't have a will.

It's pretty crazy. I was with her until she said that she does not ever want to see the books published.

I could see if she didn't want his dad to get any more money.

The silly thing is the article says that the father and brother don't even care about money.

If that is true about the father & brother than they should have offered her more money.  She wants more control over the creative aspect so she just might be saying that about not wanting them published. 
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: George on July 08, 2010, 04:21:40 PM
Out of country try-outs?

LA TIMES (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2010/07/sister-act-musical-finally-gets-a-broadway-date.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CultureMonster+%28Culture+Monster%29)

Quote
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0133f226e4db970b-500wi)

'Sister Act' musical finally heading to Broadway

Following productions in Pasadena, Atlanta and London, the stage musical adaptation of "Sister Act" is finally making its way to Broadway.

The show's producers -- including Whoopi Goldberg, who starred in the 1992 Touchstone Pictures film -- said Thursday that the musical will open in New York in the spring of 2011, but they did not specify an opening date or a theater.
...
Producers said they are planning a Hamburg, Germany, production of "Sister Act" that is set to open in December.

der Brucer

And did you read that Whoopi Goldberg, one of the investors of the London production and the original Deloris in the movies, is going to join that production as the Mother Superior (http://www.playbill.com/news/article/140966-Back-in-the-Habit-Whoopi-Goldberg-to-Join-London-Cast-of-Sister-Act)? 
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 04:41:19 PM
I'm worried about the subsequent two Dragon films since they're directed by different people.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 04:41:32 PM
Slow.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: MBarnum on July 08, 2010, 04:46:01 PM
The only dragon movies I like are those which also feature Hercules, Maciste, or Atlas.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: TCB on July 08, 2010, 04:55:44 PM
Last night I commented that I wouldn't want to watch an amazon download if i had to watch it on my computer.

DR TCB asked why.

Cause my tv is MUCH bigger than my computer screen!

I meant why would you watch it on your computer screen when Nextflix allows you to watch it on your TV screen.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: TCB on July 08, 2010, 05:01:16 PM
Break a leg to Jrand and the cast and crew of BLITHE SPIRIT.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 05:05:06 PM
Last night I commented that I wouldn't want to watch an amazon download if i had to watch it on my computer.

DR TCB asked why.

Cause my tv is MUCH bigger than my computer screen!

I meant why would you watch it on your computer screen when Nextflix allows you to watch it on your TV screen.

She thought that was what Cilla was doing, only Cilla downloaded it to her tv. 
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: TCB on July 08, 2010, 05:06:02 PM
TOD:

I would have gone to college.

I would have interviewed actor William Boyett before he died.

I would have continued dating that doctor.


Does that mean that you did interview actor Willima Boyett after he died?
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: TCB on July 08, 2010, 05:23:03 PM
The only dragon movies I like are those which also feature Hercules, Maciste, or Atlas.


........... and Pete!
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Laura on July 08, 2010, 05:23:11 PM
Broken leg vibes to JRand and the company!
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Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 05:30:34 PM
I'm worried about the subsequent two Dragon films since they're directed by different people.

Since I have nothing to lose by reading the reviews, which give too much of the plot away, I checked out a few.  Nothing was mentioned about the director.  Overall the plot wasn't as well liked at the first movie.  All the reviews rave about the two stars again and make fun of any possible American cast.  There were complaints about the acting for some of the new people in "Fire".  Not as good as "Tattoo" but still very good.

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Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 05:30:53 PM
The only dragon movies I like are those which also feature Hercules, Maciste, or Atlas.


........... and Pete!

I liked Pete. :)
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Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 05:37:24 PM
I found one review that compliments the 2nd director.
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 06:03:42 PM
But i don't get why she would want to deny people the chance to read the books.

I suspect this is the cry of a women being scorned - enough money will probably ease the pain. (...and a deal that would include her in the creative process!)

der Brucer

Very interesting article, thanks for the link, Der B.  Not sure who is the culprit...
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 06:04:42 PM
Ms Becca Luker was as lovely as ever. We had a great Victor Herbert rehearsal, and she seems happy with all her song assignments. Then she and I walked up Broadwat from 73rd Street to the 86th Street subway, catching up and gossiping. I do love her.

And the good news is that the McGlinn estate sent me a check today for last month's work. Thank you, Jesus!

YEAH!!!
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 06:08:18 PM
MEGA VIBES TO DD BOSCO AND DR MBARNUM~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 06:08:51 PM
Break a leg to DR JRAND and company
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 06:09:21 PM
Time to go water the garden.  It's only going to be in the upper 50s tonight.  We really haven't had a hot summer and i hope it stays this way!!
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Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 06:09:46 PM

And the good news is that the McGlinn estate sent me a check today for last month's work. Thank you, Jesus!

YEAH!!!

I almost missed this wonderful news. 
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Post by: Laura on July 08, 2010, 06:48:13 PM
Time to go water the garden.  It's only going to be in the upper 50s tonight.  We really haven't had a hot summer and i hope it stays this way!!

Yeah. It's hardly been over 110 here.
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Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 06:48:23 PM
We are trading ten healthy spies for 4 damaged ones.  I think we should receive a credit to use at at a future date.
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Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 06:48:51 PM
It was at least 90 today and on the humid side.
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Post by: George on July 08, 2010, 06:59:28 PM
We are trading ten healthy spies for 4 damaged ones.  I think we should receive a credit to use at at a future date.

Sounds like a good idea, Jane! :D
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Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 07:01:05 PM
Thanks. :)
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Post by: Laura on July 08, 2010, 07:02:51 PM
Like sports draft pick trading.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on July 08, 2010, 07:09:43 PM
In one hour I shall be venturing out to meet an "online" friend for dinner.  Addie and I have been chums for many years on film music forums.  She's a big Morricone fan.  She's very good friends with BK's personal friend Julie Kirgo.

Addie is also from South Carolina and is of "my" generation.  She is acquainted with my cousin Debra in Edgefield and once dated a guy Debra knows.   Addie now lives in Texas with her hubby John.  She is in Oakland on business and this is the only night we can get together to finally meet face-to-face.

I was planning on taking her to Jack London Square to one of three really nice restaurants there.  Unfortunately, the jury in L.A. came in with a verdict (involuntary manslaughter) this afternoon in the Mehserle trial.  Oakland began evacuations of State, City and County offices.  For several days, business have been putting up plywood over windows and doors in the event of more ugliness.

A couple of local channels are devoting full coverage to things going on downtown -- a rally started at 5 p.m.    The streets are thronged with many folks who don't feel the verdict was "justice" for the victim.  I get different readings on whether violence might erupt.

At any rate, the dinner venue is the island of Alameda...and we'll be eating at "Asena", the wonderful southern Mediterranean restaurant there.  Addie is in a hotel near the airport and is actually closer to Alameda than I....but I will be travelling there on the Freeway...a bit roundabout, but out of "potential" harms' way.
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Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 07:12:41 PM
DR Ron I'm glad you will be staying out of harms way.  Vibes violence doesn't irrupt!

Enjoy your evening.
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Post by: JMK on July 08, 2010, 07:12:41 PM
Hi, all, we have arrived in northern Wisconsin--I will have to ketchup later.

Two things I must, must, must post immediately, however:

DR JANE:  You MUST visit Wisconsin Dells if only to dine at the most fabulous vegetarian restaurant Betsy and I have ever been to, staffed by a bunch of graduates from the Course in Miracles program.  It's called THE CHEESE FACTORY (they have a website--do a Google), and the food was so incredible even BK himself would have been ga-ga over it.

And BK--DW Wife Betsy continues to read your book and we had a big laugh today when you talked about the Brit named David doing the routine on the cruise boat when you were filming The Partridge Family.  David is retired and lives in the little town of Newberg, Oregon now.  His wife Jan is the former USO singer I worked with whom I believe I mentioned here a long time ago.
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Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 07:13:36 PM
DR JMK I shall put this on my list of places to visit. :)
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 07:24:33 PM
JMK - that's pretty funny - can he come to the event in Portland?
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 07:25:03 PM
I watched one documentary on DVD and am now watching a motion picture on Blu and Ray - after that, who knows?  I'm pretty tired.
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Post by: Jane on July 08, 2010, 07:31:27 PM
JMK - that's pretty funny - can he come to the event in Portland?

When are you going to Portland?
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 07:36:51 PM
November - don't you read this here site? :)
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 07:38:37 PM
Wow, is The Last Airbender the worst-reviewed big-budget movie in history?  8% on the tomatometer?  Cost $150,000.  Opening week gross (the long weekend) 59 mil, and it's going to drop by sixty or seventy percent, which means it's a huge disaster, since you have to add another thirty or forty grand onto the 150 for prints and advertising.
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Post by: JMK on July 08, 2010, 07:42:38 PM
JMK - that's pretty funny - can he come to the event in Portland?

I'm not sure I still have their email, but I'll look.
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Post by: George on July 08, 2010, 07:45:20 PM
November - don't you read this here site? :)

HERE (http://www.haineshisway.com/smf/index.php?topic=2479.msg662789#msg662789) is the complete information!

November 13         Bruce Kimmel
Television star, feature film writer and director, best-selling author, legendary Grammy nominated producer of Broadway cast albums—Bruce Kimmel has done it all in a career spanning several decades and areas of expertise.  Now with his memoirs newly published, Bruce comes to Portland with a fun multi-media presentation that looks over a long and varied life in show business.

December 11   Time Out!  The Holiday Edition
Back for their second appearance in Rave in the Nave, the hilarious Moms of the Time Out troupe, headlined by Jacki Kane and Betsy Kauffman, bring some much needed laughter and stress relief to one of the busiest times of the year.
Title: Re: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED
Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 07:54:57 PM
Sometimes I feel like Marilyn Munster
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Post by: Laura on July 08, 2010, 07:55:54 PM
There's a great quote to go under your posts.
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
There's a great quote to go under your posts.

You mean like this  :)
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 08:08:41 PM
I'm actually feeling pretty tired tonight.  Sam was supposed to come tomorrow to help clean and I was going to take the day off, but since she's not coming I've gone ahead and scheduled appointments all day.  So, i better get some sleep soon
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Post by: JMK on July 08, 2010, 08:11:05 PM
Here's THE CHEESE FACTORY's site:

http://www.cookingvegetarian.com/

BTW, their stuff is not "cheesy" (no pun intended)--the building where it's housed was an old cheese factory decades ago.  The building is really cool, with a full upstairs stage area that DW Wife Betsy is going to see if she can finagle for a comedy performance, which means we can return and write the whole thing off (don't tell FJL).  ;)
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Post by: Ginny on July 08, 2010, 08:12:59 PM
...And the good news is that the McGlinn estate sent me a check today for last month's work. Thank you, Jesus!

So, this means our rendezvous in Canton is a GO?
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Post by: Edisaurus on July 08, 2010, 08:15:51 PM
I am glad to have an update on DD Bosco. I have been late catching up. Big hugs to Bosco and MBarnum.
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Post by: Edisaurus on July 08, 2010, 08:16:12 PM
Yay for Elmore getting a checkie!
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Post by: Edisaurus on July 08, 2010, 08:18:28 PM
Just got home from putting the final touches on our J and B mix. We'll watch it tomorrow as we lay it down and then we'll send it off to the Jerusalem Film Festival and call it done. We also mixed and onlined the trailer I cut a few weeks ago and replace the one that was put up prematurely by the powers that be.
Looks and sounds SO much better!
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Post by: Edisaurus on July 08, 2010, 08:19:59 PM
TOD: If I could do it again, I would not have married my first husband. We parted amicably, and he would have said the same about me, I'm sure. We should have just been friends and left it at that.
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Post by: Edisaurus on July 08, 2010, 08:20:39 PM
I would like those 14 years of my life back...
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Post by: Edisaurus on July 08, 2010, 08:22:18 PM
In other news, it was announced today that the Mercer doc was nominated for an Emmy. Had we been able to make a real film I really believe it would win an Emmy, but as it is, I would be VERY surprised if it won.
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Post by: Ginny on July 08, 2010, 08:22:46 PM
Vibes to DR MBarnum and his DD Bosco.
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Post by: Edisaurus on July 08, 2010, 08:24:15 PM
Kyra was nominated once again, and also Beau Bridges as a guest star on THE CLOSER. (He was in drag for most of the show as a retired detective who had a sex change.) And Andre Braugher was nominated as supporting actor for MEN OF CERTAIN AGE...well deserved. He is SO great on that show.
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Post by: Ginny on July 08, 2010, 08:25:20 PM
I spent a delightful evening at Kenwood Towne Center in Cincinnati.  Did some shopping by myself and then met 5 (3 from Columbus, OH, and 2 from Kentucky) of my Facebook friends at the Vera Bradley store.  We terrorized one of the clerks and helped each other pick out bags and accessories.  Then we went to Cheesecake Factory for dinner.
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Post by: George on July 08, 2010, 08:38:18 PM
Well, I'm heading home.  But before I go...
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Post by: George on July 08, 2010, 08:38:31 PM
PAGE SEVEN DANCE!!
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Post by: George on July 08, 2010, 08:38:46 PM
Until later. :)
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Post by: Cillaliz on July 08, 2010, 08:39:55 PM
Time served for being a Russian spy?  They must not have any evidence
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 08:57:13 PM
Finished with my viewing for the evening.
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Post by: DERBRUCER on July 08, 2010, 09:02:42 PM
The postal code starts with H1Y (there are tons of streets with this). And it says that part of the name contains a nationality.


My guess would be the name is embedded; for example -

"Bowserbay Place" contains "serb" and "Slaveholders Court" contains "slav".

der Brucer
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Post by: DERBRUCER on July 08, 2010, 09:05:31 PM

Yeah. It's hardly been over 110 here.

You could always Go To Hell, and cool off.

der Brucer
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Post by: Sam on July 08, 2010, 09:09:11 PM
I don't discuss my mistakes.  Me either.
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Post by: Sam on July 08, 2010, 09:09:23 PM
Hi.  ;D
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Post by: Sam on July 08, 2010, 09:14:15 PM
Too pooped to party.
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Post by: Sam on July 08, 2010, 09:16:12 PM
LOTS OF VIBES FOR BOSCO.  :)
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Post by: Sam on July 08, 2010, 09:17:26 PM
Really happy healthy weekend everyone.

Night.

Fast. ;)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on July 08, 2010, 09:19:59 PM
Time served for being a Russian spy?  They must not have any evidence

Evidence is of no consequence in a State Department dictated verdict - if they had been awarded time then the Pres would have to do a pardon to allow the exchange.

der Brucer
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Post by: bk on July 08, 2010, 09:42:14 PM
Get me off this damn Patti Page.