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Title: CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 12:00:35 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you are dancing about like a gazelle in search of refried beans, you are ready to celebrate the various and sundried things that need celebrating, so let the posting begin.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 12:06:10 AM
Welcome ten GUESTS.  Happy Cinco de Mayo or Mustard.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 05, 2004, 12:06:50 AM
JRand53, from last night...I don't remember Frank Thring'ssss death in El Cccccid, but now I'm damned curiousssss!
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Tomovoz on May 05, 2004, 12:08:45 AM
Happy Birthday George.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 12:10:36 AM
FS Pogue - I behave "properly" not for grannie, but for me. Why should I behave as badly as she does? I don't give a flying fig what she thinks about me. I DO care about what I think about me, though.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 12:11:28 AM
  HAPPY CINCO DE BIRTHDAY, GEORGE!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on May 05, 2004, 12:12:08 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR READER GEORGE!! Much cake!

And Happy Birthday to HollyLynn, whoever you may be.!
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 12:13:33 AM
People who treat people poorly deserve to be treated poorly in return.  That is my belief...in brief.

LauraII is STILL replying - now in this thread.  Will her reply EVER show up?
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Post by: Laura II on May 05, 2004, 12:16:02 AM
I'm doing something wrong, but I will repent for it momentarily.

BK, I figured I wouldn't make it in time, so I copied my post. See? I'm not mad at you at all! ...Scratch that. My computer didn't copy it. It's ok. I shall try to recreate my post.

Re: yesterday's posts

After big band night on American Idol, I decided to get out my Eva Cassidy Live at Blues Alley cd. Talk about an inspired version of "Cheek to Cheek"! She was amazing!

About Love:
Well, I've never been in love before (ah, a Loesser reference), so I can't really comment too much about this. All I can say is I believe my generation throws the word "love" around, just as we throw around words like "amazing," "incredible," "fantastic," and more. Just about anything constitutes as "amazing" nowadays. For example, almost every Broadway cast and American Idol performer (and everyone in between) receives a standing ovation after every performance. Standing ovations used to signify the recognition of brilliance in this art form. Today, I wonder if performers expect them as audiences give them so freely. When did the bar drop this low? Hmm. But back to love. People my age (and I can't exclude myself from this group) tend to enjoy classifying various degrees of love with "I <3 you," "I heart you," "I luv ya," "luv ya," and "love ya!" Perhaps this signals that we understand the power of the word "love." On the other hand, these versions might showcase our inability to express out true feelings. It's difficult to grasp the fact that some people can't say "I love you" to people, even in the case of platonic love. Some people worry too much about how other people with take it when they say those three words.

Now to be good and return to the notes.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 12:18:08 AM
I'm not sleepy. At all. Ate too late, I guess.
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Post by: Laura II on May 05, 2004, 12:18:57 AM
Happy birthday, George!! Have an extra-special day!

Hmm...I wonder if I have any questions for BK...all right, first question that pops into my mind: what color should I paint my nails?

I really need sleep, don't I? Goodnight all!
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 12:21:40 AM
The Psycho Deli?
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 12:23:32 AM
A post worth waiting for, LauraII.  I, too, am nauseated by the ease with which audiences (mostly the young people in the audience) give a standing ovation.  It DID use to mean something.  When I saw Hello, Dolly! in 1965 here in LA, it never, not in the five times I saw it, got a standing ovation.  Very few of the shows I saw in my youth did.  It's suddenly become like something you HAVE to do - only I see very few shows that deserve it - VERY few.  When I saw Company - no standing O.  Follies - no standing O.  A Chorus Line - no standing O.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 12:24:07 AM
I feel you should paint your nails orange.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 12:26:23 AM
Okay, you've all convinced me. I shall behave BADLY from now on. I shall be my ex-mother-in-laws worst nightmare come true. I'll call her tomorrow and tell her, "I'm calling NOT to wish you a happy birthday!" or better, "I'm calling to wish you an UNhappy Birthday!"
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 12:27:51 AM
No, that's not it.  You should call her and say, "You know, you've been quite a jerk and I really don't care for you at all, you sad little peckerhead."
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 12:28:11 AM
No orange. Orange is so day before yesterday. Purple or black. Or blood red. No pink, no orange. Perhaps navy blue.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 12:29:32 AM
No, that's not it.  You should call her and say, "You know, you've been quite a jerk and I really don't care for you at all, you sad little peckerhead."
She lives in Newfoundland. I think they eat seal peckerhead there. So she may take that as a compliment.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Tomovoz on May 05, 2004, 12:30:00 AM
FS Pogue - I behave "properly" not for grannie, but for me. Why should I behave as badly as she does? I don't give a flying fig what she thinks about me. I DO care about what I think about me, though.
A perfect attitude in my book.
I am with you all the way on that one Panni.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 12:32:18 AM
Okay, even if i'm not going to sleep, I should turn off the computer. G'night, all. G'day, tomovoz.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 12:33:06 AM
Oh! I just read your post, Tomovoz. Thank you!
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 12:33:30 AM
The Wussburger Goeth.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 12:34:19 AM
And again... G'night/G'day.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 12:36:17 AM
I saw that, bk! When you get up at 5:30, you can call me a Wussburger.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 12:36:56 AM
And yet AGAIN, g'night/g'day!
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 05, 2004, 01:22:51 AM
Just logged on to Amazon. My Book recommendations are those by Mr Bruce Kimmel!
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 05, 2004, 01:25:33 AM
Including "Reservoir Limnology". Check it out.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 05, 2004, 03:43:53 AM
I don't know that people who treat other people poorly need to be treated poorly necessarily.  I just don't understand why they should be dealt with at all.  Why try to maintain a relationship with someone where no relationship clearly exists?  You don't have to treat them badly, but why are they even in your life?  

If daughter wants to try and have a relationship with grannie, I suppose she can try (though grannie seems clearly uninterested), but why should you, the erstwhile daughter-in-law, still have to deal with her.  She could probably give a rat's ass whether you wish her happy birthday or not.  Does she you?  

It's not about doing something for yourself at all...You should emotionally invest in people who emotionally invest in you, whether they're blood or not.  Treating somebody "properly" with whom you have apparently have only a sham of relationship (or a shambles of a relationship) doesn't make you a better person. It only makes you someone who is wasting effort and energy where no perceivable benefit forthcoming and that seems rather foolish.

As I've gotten older, I've gotten very good at winnowing away the chaff in my life.  Relationships that require maintenance but proffer no lasting, significance benefits are waste of time. I don't believing in wasting my life on wasted lives. It's not about behaving "properly" for your own self-satisfaction (though its seems "properly" in this case is just wish them no ill, ignore them, and go on with your life) or going out of your way to treat someone badly. It's about perserving your energy, time, and emotion for people who bring real value and worth into your life.

Just because someone is a relative does not mean you are obligated to have a pretense of a relationship with them.  Not even for your daughter's sake.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 05, 2004, 05:00:57 AM
"She lives in Newfoundland. I think they eat seal peckerhead there. So she may take that as a compliment."


DR Panni,

I barely slept last night and I'm quite groggy. But you had me in stitches.

BTW, "devilled" is the spelling in England, and in the Canadian dictionaries that favour English spelling.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: elmore3003 on May 05, 2004, 05:09:34 AM
Good morning, all!  DR George, a very happy birthday!  I wish you all the best for a wonderful year and many more to come.

Dear Friend BK, you're right about standing ovations; on Broadway I never saw one for the original MAN OF LA MANCHA, HELLO DOLLY!, 1776, PROMISES PROMISES (shows I caught in the 1960s) or any from the 70s.  My first memory of a standing ovation was the Houston Grand Opera tour of HELLO DOLLY! with Carol Channing and Leroy Reams in 1978 (?), which I saw five times in Cincinnati while I was an usher for Cincinnati Summer Opera.  At every night's performance, Channing and the Waiters got a standing ovation after the title song.  I had never seen that occur before!

Since then, my memory of SO in New York is recent; I'm not sure I recall any from the 1980s, but it seems to me that almost everything successful I've seen since 1990 brings an audience to their feet.  Maybe it's the guilt from all the noisy morons talking and behaving badly through the performance?  
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Ben on May 05, 2004, 05:32:30 AM
Oh, my. 29 posts as I log on this morning. My post will bring us to page 2! Hoo and Ray. A small and short smiley dance in honor of that accomplishment so early in the morning.

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY GEORGE.

I'm seeing Assassins tonight (to remember how to spell it I always say in my head, not out loud ass ass ins). I'm not sure if I will be able to see the Encores Bye Bye Birdie this week but I will see Frozen next Sunday the 16th, Fabulation, a new play at Playwrights Horizons the day before that on the 15th and Homebody/Kabul, the Tony Kushner piece, at Brooklyn Academy of Music the day before that on the 14th.

No questions yet. (I rarely have questions, don't know why but I don't). Actually I do right now! WEHT Kerry (and MG). He comes, he goes like Grand Hotel.

Later, me hearties
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 05, 2004, 05:47:05 AM
That was my other comment!  I'm seeing the Encores! dress of BYE BYE BIRDIE tonight.  I adore Karen Ziemba.  After yesterday's discussion do I "love" her?  Well, I'm awfully fond of her and her talents.  

Okay, I have to go push some Eubie Blake scores from 1940 around for a bit, as well as some Victor Herbert.  Mabe I'll even finish Mickey & Judy today?

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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 05:57:46 AM
Congratulations new double God DR Jose!  Glad you're feeling better.
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 05:59:34 AM
DR S. Woody White, that description of your dinner last night is making my mouth water.  OMG that sounded good!
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Post by: Maya on May 05, 2004, 05:59:54 AM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]HAPPY BIRTHDAY, GEORGE!![/move]

I'm back from NYC and had a great time.  I LOVED "Assassins!"

If anyone is interested in reading my review, it is herein:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/bwaybabie/56928.html#cutid2

I totally agree that standing ovations are given too often these days.  Sometimes it can be tempting to stand up along with everyone else, but I only do it if the show moved me enough.  I'm not TOO demanding an critic though, so I DO stand up about 60% of the time.  

I really want to see "Xanadu," no matter how horrendous it is.  I also love Gene Kelly's performance in "The Young Girls of Rochefort"...he speaks such lovely French!!  *sigh*

Well, I should study as I have a math exam in an hour.  Which I am ill-prepared for and absolutely dreading.

I hope everyone has a good morning!
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 06:14:24 AM
DR Panni: I think you should go to the wedding. It sounds great!

Btw, I actually think it's nice that you would call granny.  Although I do get what DR Charles Pogue is saying.  Anyhow, we don't have enough information to know if granny appreciates the effort or not (since all we were told is that granny has not visited DR Panni's daughter, not that she hasn't had any communication with her).
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 06:17:07 AM

Happy Birthday DR George!

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Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 06:19:37 AM
Wow, I'm here all alone. :(
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Post by: Ben on May 05, 2004, 06:27:21 AM
No, you're not. Stuart and Ben are here to keep you company (for a while anyway).

I have so far to go to become a Thousandaire or Double God or Deux Dieu (is that pronounced Doo Doo, just kidding)
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: William E. Lurie on May 05, 2004, 06:39:33 AM
Okay, let's get it out of the way first:  P Diddy is not nearly as bad as I expected in RAISIN IN THE SUN.  He's not up to the rest of the cast, but not so bad that he ruins the show.  If he continues to work hard, he will undoubtedly improve.  His main problem is that too often it is acting by the numbers, as if the director said "walk five steps to the right and on such-and-such a word, raise your right hand".  Still he does have a certain charm, and is probably more right for the role of Walter Lee than he would be for many other roles.

Of course he is completely outclassed by Audra McDonald, Phylicia Rashad, Sanaa Latham and the rest of the cast.  Suddenly the Tonyģ race in the actress and supporting actress categories could become a real contest.  The play itself holds up much better than many plays from the period with contemporary settings.  And there were two very pleasant surprises: the audience was mostly young fans of P Diddy, and they were very well-behaved and responsive to the play; and the Playbillģ cover was a large picture of Lorraine Hansberry, the woman who wrote this play that is still pleasing audiences half a century later.

One other thing... unlike most plays that were later musicals, the song cues are not at all obvious.  In fact this is one case where the original play has not been made unnecessary by the subsequent musicalization.
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Post by: Stuart on May 05, 2004, 06:43:11 AM
DR Panni:  If you know the scene in ALL ABOUT EVE to which this refers, you'll understand the inflection, so here goes.....  In all the (months) I have known you I have never let you go to (this wedding) alone, but now, I am afraid I MUST.  You must clip those gnome(s) on the noggin(s)!  (OK, so it's a paraphrase, but all you AAE fans out there know the scene I am talking about....)

Oh, to be a fly on the wall at that affair.

And DR ELmore, the reason you saw those standing ovations for Channing in HELLO DOLLY is that her late/former husband Charles Lowe was in the audience every night and would stand up and lead them.  This happened not only on the '78 tour, but the '95 one as well.  (They were still married then, though, as memory serves, they had not had sex in 41 years.)
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on May 05, 2004, 06:49:26 AM
My question for everyone:
Do you have suggestions of what to put into a small time capsule?

When we opened the one from the last church building, I was disappointed it only contained a few papers (membership list, newsletter, etc) and nothing about the culture or technology.

I was thinking a CD and DVD, but don't know which ones. Maybe a TV Guide -- that kind of thing.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on May 05, 2004, 06:55:37 AM
Question for DRs:

Red BOUNCE or white BOUNCE?

I got white, but I can't believe I stood there for about 30 seconds trying to pick.
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Post by: MBarnum on May 05, 2004, 07:12:21 AM
Happy Birthday George!!!!

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And a happy birthday to HollyLynn...come and join us when you feel comfortable doing so...we would love to meet you!

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Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: HollyLynn on May 05, 2004, 07:15:46 AM
Thank you to everyone for the birthday wishes!  I do read the comumn and postings, but I just can seem to move beyone lurker status.  My Cinco de Mayo resoultion--to post more!

On my way to Margaritaville tonight...they just opened up a new Mexican resturant in town--perfect way to celebrate by birthday!

Cheers!
HolllyLynn   ;D
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: MBarnum on May 05, 2004, 07:35:59 AM
Glad that you came out of lurker status HollyLynn. I think most of us started out as lurkers but now we post until the cows come home! LOL!

When you have time be sure to let us know a bit about yourself and I am sure BK will want to know how you found your way to HHW!

Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 07:37:53 AM
Happy Birthday HollyLynn!
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 07:40:22 AM
Question for DRs:

Red BOUNCE or white BOUNCE?

I got white, but I can't believe I stood there for about 30 seconds trying to pick.

Yah I read about this yesterday.  Why did they make two covers?  And is there somewhere we can see them both online?  Which one is nicer?  I suppose if one orders it online, you get what you get.
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 07:42:47 AM
re: Raisin in the Sun


One other thing... unlike most plays that were later musicals, the song cues are not at all obvious.  In fact this is one case where the original play has not been made unnecessary by the subsequent musicalization.

How many songs are there?  And does Audra get to sing?
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 07:50:46 AM
Happy birthday, HollyLynn! And welcome!
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Post by: William E. Lurie on May 05, 2004, 08:04:13 AM
re: Raisin in the Sun How many songs are there?  And does Audra get to sing?

This is not the musical version... this is the original play that the musical RAISIN was based on.  Therefore there are no songs... just a little pre-recorded dance music.  However Audra does hum a little while doing the ironing.  What I meant about obvious song cues is that often when you see a play or movie that was turned into a musical you can easily tell where most of the songs were later inserted, often with some of the dialogue in the play showing up as lyrics in the musical.  In RAISIN IN THE SUN, you can't.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 08:14:37 AM
Jennifer - Thank you for your thoughts on the granny issue. And you're quite right in exploring things further. Nothing is black and white -- well, yes, some things are -- newspapers, for example.

FS Pogue - I don't want to get into a debate about granny. But I do want to say, just in case you get the wrong idea, that "behaving properly" is certainly not something I do in the British sense. It has absolutely nothing to do with decorum. I don't give a rat's ass about decorum. In fact, years ago, I was the scandal of granny's family. Never before had a hurricane such as a certain Hungarian Jewess
blown into their midst.
And I AM calling her today. She's an 81-year-old woman, living alone. Picking up the phone is no huge event for me. But hearing from me will brighten her day.

Stuart - You made me laugh! If I did go to the wedding, I could walk in and say "Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy night."

WEL - Interesting report on RAISIN. And how wonderful that because of P. Diddy/Sean Combs a whole new audience is coming to the theater to see a seminal (and terrific) play. I admire his chutzpah.
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 08:20:03 AM
Ah okay DR WEL, now I get it.  I didn't think there were songs in RAISINS IN T HE SUN.  But I didn't understand what you meant.  And now I do.  It's too bad though to have Audra in a play and not get to hear her beautiful voice.
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 08:34:27 AM
First of all, Thank You Tomovoz, Panni, DearReaderLaura, LauraII, elmore3003, Ben, Maya, Jennifer, Mbarnum for your birthday wishes!

Secondly, Happy Birthday to HollyLynn!

(I'm pretty close to hitting 1000 posts, so I'm going to pad it a bit!)
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 08:35:28 AM
(I hope no one minds. ::))
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 08:39:20 AM
Today, I'm being taken out to lunch by co-workers to a place near my work called Plasa Jalisco.  It's a fairly small (chain) Mexican restaurant, but it's quite good and the ambiance is very nice.  If I remember correctly, they take pictures of the birthday people wearing a sombrero.  If they do, I'll scan it and post it later tonight. 8)
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 08:44:12 AM
Okay, last one, then I have to go to work:

Tonight, my sister and her boyfriend (and my niece) are taking me out for dinner.  I'm sure that we won't go to a Mexican restaurant, mainly because of the crowds and weíd need a reservation...which we donít have, anyway.  I donít mind.  Itís free food either way. ;D

On Saturday, my family is getting together for the "official" family birthday celebration, because my mom has to work this week.  We're going to have a barbeque and my mom is going to make my favorite dessert.  I have no idea what the name is, but it has a cookie crust on the bottom and has layers of chocolate pudding and whipped cream with cream cheese...or maybe it's chocolate pudding and cream cheese with a layer of whipped cream.  Anyway, it's my fave!
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 08:45:28 AM
Okay, THIS[/b] is the last one:

Only seven more to go (after this post) till I hit 1000!
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 08:52:45 AM
FS Pogue - Okay, even though I said I wouldn't "debate"... Just read your post again, and I have to respectfully disagree with one main thought. This is not a matter or right or wrong, of course, but just the way I personally choose to lead my life... I don't think relationships can always be dealt with on a quid pro quo basis. You say, "Relationships that require maintenance but proffer no lasting, significance benefits are waste of time." Not necessarily. I don't consider my investment in people the same thing as my investment in the stock market (not that I have any investments in the stock market). Sometimes with people there is no "significant benefit." So what? Perhaps that's where karma comes in. Eventually it comes back to you. The good that you do, as well as the bad. I try to be a "good" person - sometimes that's not as easy as walking away and "preserving my energy, time and emotion," but I try. I don't always succeed -- and frankly, I don't always try - but we can strive, can't we?
(And yes, there are people - relatives, even -  whom I have cut out of my life for good reason. I'm not Pollyanna, far from it. My only link to my long-dead father, for example, is his son, my half-brother. I have not had contact with him in decades, even though he wants to have contact.)
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 05, 2004, 08:54:06 AM
Glad that you came out of lurker status HollyLynn. I think most of us started out as lurkers but now we post until the cows come home! LOL!

When you have time be sure to let us know a bit about yourself and I am sure BK will want to know how you found your way to HHW!

I have to be truthful on this matter:  BK gave me his URL over at rec.music.movies, and I followed it and jumped right in.  No time for lurking turkeys here! (Aha! A Sondheim reference!)
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 08:59:05 AM
Okay it's time for the Page Three Dance.

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]PAGE THREE DANCE!!![/move]

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Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Maya on May 05, 2004, 08:59:45 AM
No time for lurking turkeys here! (Aha! A Sondheim reference!)

And almost a Bacharach one too!  ;)
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Post by: Jane on May 05, 2004, 09:05:09 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY GEORGE!!!

 Have a wonderful day!!! :D :D :D
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Post by: Jane on May 05, 2004, 09:09:33 AM
Bruce, GOOD VIBES on your psychic radio interview!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 05, 2004, 09:11:47 AM
Good Morning!

(Well, it will be Good Afternoon! by the time I hit "Post" here on the East Coast...)

Happy Birthday, DR George!!

Btw, the dessert you described is very familiar to me too.  Actually, I have something like it in a "local cookbook", and it's called "Better Than Sex".... Hmmm...  Guess it just all depends.... On a lot of things...  In any case, ENJOY!!!   ;)

It looks like I'm getting back to my "normal" schedule.  I just could not get to sleep until around 3:00AM.  But I did manage to get up right before 11:00, so...  *I also ended up catching the late broadcast of "While You Were Out" on The Discovery Channel.  They had a gay male couple on.  Very cute.  -Although I kept waiting to see if they would show them kissing during the final moments of the show when the other guy came back from his "vacation" (while the other one stayed at home helping fix up the mess he started).  -For those of you unfamiliar with the show, it's basically a home remodeling show... I'm still a little groggy to explain it right now, but I'm sure there's info over at tlc.com/discovery or is that discovery.com/tlc - ???  In any case, that show kept me occupied until 3:00am, but I was good and tired after the show and went right to bed.

-Hmmm.. that last sentence sounds kind of sordid... Oohhh...  To be sordid again....

???

Questions for BK:

What's been the one sickness, malady, injury that really did you in - and that you NEVER want to have again?

And what's the longest time you've ever felt "under the weather"?

And on a happier note:
Will you be donning a sombrero today and supping on Mexican food?

OK - I need to get ready to head into understudy rehearsal.  -Should be "fun" - I'll be playing on the conductor's keyboard "set-up" - of course, he's much taller than me, and he has really long legs.  And since I've been used to playing my keyboard book...  But this is what I live for!  So, I'm sure I'll have fun!

Ciao for niao!
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Post by: Jay on May 05, 2004, 09:17:32 AM
Happy Birthday to Dear Reader (and near-thousandaire) George!

Happy Birthday to Dear Newbie HollyLynn!

Happy Cinco de Mayo to everyone!
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Post by: Stuart on May 05, 2004, 09:32:31 AM
If I did go to the wedding, I could walk in and say "Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy night."

You can, at that.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 05, 2004, 09:43:11 AM
Last night's "American Idol":

We're down to five singers.  And here's my summary of it:

Jasmine Trias -- a little of her goes a long way.  I didn't realize that until her second (and better) vocal of "Almost Like Bein' in Love."  Jasmine doesn't "get" that presentation is almost as important as performance, and her consistent selection of jeans with funky belts/chains/scarves don't cut it.  A nice dress with a flowing skirt and some sassy choreography would have balanced her one-notish vocals and given her more oomph.

That said, I think she's far better than any former "American Idol" runner up other than Clay Aiken.

George Huff -- he's out of his league.  He's congenial, he's fun and he has a future in music.  In fact, he's a far better singer/performer than Ruben Studdard ever was or will be.  But this year it's not enough.  (Ruben wasn't last year's best, either, but that's a whole other issue).

Diana deGarmo -- she's fun, she has an astonishing  appreciation for/understanding of all sorts of song genres, and she has had some really good turns on AI.  But she's in third place, IMO, and it has to do with the maturity of the final two.  She needs to lose the baby fat (or mask it better), and she needs to work harder on staying on pitch!  She's a powerhouse, but she overdoes it when she doesn't need to.  She has a brilliant future ahead of her.

In alphabetical order:

Fantasia -- Quirky, unique, imaginative, and a true stylist.  She's equal to the task of being the best, yet, "American Idol."  Her "Big Band" performance was magnificent.

LaToya -- Classy, elegant, and a stylist in her own right. She has a classic voice and her performance in "Big Band" was extraordinary, IMO.  She, too, could be the best, yet, "American Idol."  I'm damned if I can choose between them.  (I could NOT vote for LaToya last night.  I tried her line for an hour and 45 minutes and it was consistently busy).

I don't know what Simon's big problem is with "Big Band," but Big Band encompassed music from ALL areas...movies, Broadway, and, of course, from the band leaders themselves.   Big Band should never be mistakenly limited to songs from the 1940s. Most singers sang songs EXACTLY in the manner that songs were sung on stage last night.  Pleasant, crooning vocals.  The swing was saved for the dance floors and trios that could sing multiple parts in harmonies.

I'd have loved for someone to have sung "I'll Be Seeing You" or "Moonlight Serenade," but given the audience and ages of the performers, "Someone to Watch Over Me" was a huge enough surprise!

Bottom line about this season, IMO:  Last year, we rooted more for Clay or Ruben or Kimberly because they were head and shoulders above a gruesome lot.  The year before, it was Kelly and only Kelly.  Look how far Justin Guarini has fallen...he was all crotch-thrusting on "AI" and that got old, fast, apparently.  He never had a good enough voice.  So, yes, Kelly shone through, as did Clay and Ruben.

This year, though, they've all been much much better singers and have given much much better performances and now we're jaded.  We keep wanting just that little bit more....that little bit more that is so totally beyond Kelly and way, way beyond Ruben to provide even now.  

Clay had it, though....and it was damned for all AI eternity by Simon as "Broadway performance."
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 05, 2004, 09:44:33 AM
Happy five jars of mayo, George.  Use them wisely!
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 09:46:32 AM
Oh re: last night's American Idol

Unlike last year when I wanted Clay to win, there isn't anybody left who I REALLY want to finish first.

Last night's show was okay.  I assume George and Jasmine will be the bottom two.  Doesn't really matter to me which of them leaves.

LaToya was my favorite last night.  But while she has a nice voice, she just doesn't excite me.

I agree that none of the songs seemed Big Band to me, which was a total shame.  It's one thing to try to stretch the rules if you cannot do that night's theme.  But none of them even tried.

I actually don't care if they choose predictable songs.  I like hearing songs that I am familiar with.  

I'm pretty sure that they get to choose their own songs.  Not sure if they get help.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 05, 2004, 09:47:26 AM
Well, I'm awfully fond of her and her talents.  
Now there's a phrase that contradicts itself!  I know you meant "wonderfully fond of her," so why is our phrase one that tells us that your fondness for her is terrible and unbearable?

Ain't English fun?
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 05, 2004, 09:50:07 AM
I have so far to go to become a Thousandaire or Double God or Deux Dieu (is that pronounced Doo Doo, just kidding)
New tradition: upon reaching 1500 posts, we should sing "Deus Deus Deus What You Done Done Done Before."
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 05, 2004, 09:50:29 AM
Happy Birthday George

Happy Birthday HollyLynn

Happy Cinco de Mayo Maya
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Post by: Ben on May 05, 2004, 09:54:19 AM
DIT, only 46 more for you to become an HHW God. Keep up those early morning posts!

This puts me one closer to my goal. 61 to go.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 05, 2004, 09:58:35 AM
Heureux anniversaire, George!

Happy Birthday, HollyLynn!

Happy Wednesday, Everyone!







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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 10:00:39 AM

Questions for BK:

What's been the one sickness, malady, injury that really did you in - and that you NEVER want to have again?

And what's the longest time you've ever felt "under the weather"?

And on a happier note:
Will you be donning a sombrero today and supping on Mexican food?

I would have to say food poisoning (a second choice but I can't have what would have been the first choice again).  I have had food poisoning twice, and both times really severe food poisoning.  Awful.

The longest time I've felt under the weather was my three week chicken pox at thirty years of age.

I will not be supping on the foods of Meheeco, but I did reread the passage in Benjamin Kritzer which refers to Cinco de Mayo and wearing a large sombrero and serape.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 10:01:23 AM
Now there's a phrase that contradicts itself!  I know you meant "wonderfully fond of her," so why is our phrase one that tells us that your fondness for her is terrible and unbearable?
Ain't English fun?

I think I'll be pedantic ("Funny, you don't look Pedantic!" 8)) and say that before it entered the lexicon because of common usage to mean "terrible" -- the word "awful" meant inspiring awe.  
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 10:01:32 AM
Panni: In fairness to Pogue, I do believe in the post you reference he was referring to himself and his way of living - not you and your way of living.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 10:04:15 AM
The longest time I've felt under the weather was my three week chicken pox at thirty years of age.

Ughhhh. I'm getting itchy just thinking about that. :P
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 10:06:17 AM

When discussing this year's Tony races Ken Mandelbaum writes:

"The musical-actress category still appears to be a race between Donna Murphy and Tonya Pinkins."

What about Kristin and Idina?  Has he determined that they will cancel each other out?

http://www.broadway.com/template_1.asp?CI=38076&CT=8
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 05, 2004, 10:08:19 AM
A question for all: If you could choose one, and only one, film that you wish had never been made, which one would it be?

Giving a reason why is optional, of course.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 10:11:14 AM
Panni: In fairness to Pogue, I do believe in the post you reference he was referring to himself and his way of living - not you and your way of living.

Which is exactly why I began my post by saying, "This is not a matter or right or wrong, of course, but just the way I personally choose to lead my life..."

I don't believe that Pogue needs to be defened., bk. I was in no way  "attacking" him in expressing my viewpoint. His post, after all, was prompted by something he was discussing in my life.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 10:19:32 AM
Read your post again.  I know I don't need to defend him but the way your post was worded made it seem like you thought he was speaking for you.  That is all.  That is why I said "In fairness"

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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 10:19:52 AM
And one for Mahler.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 10:22:16 AM
Let's have some questions.  Here it is, Cinco de Mayo or Mustard and we have a dearth of questions, oh, yes, we have a dearth of questions.  

I wish that the film of A Chorus Line hadn't been made - there are people who've never seen the stage version who probably think that that awful movie is what the show really is.  A total waste of celluloid.
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 10:28:56 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY GEORGE!!!

 Have a wonderful day!!! :D :D :D

Thanks Jane and Jose and Jay and S. Woody and Dan-in-Toronto and RLP for the latest round of birthday wishes!
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 10:32:20 AM
Read your post again.  I know I don't need to defend him but the way your post was worded made it seem like you thought he was speaking for you.  That is all.  That is why I said "In fairness"

I think you've misinterpreted my post - or perhaps it was not clearly worded. Why would I think he was speaking for me? He was expressing HIS viewpoint and I was expressing MINE. He told me what his beliefs are and I told him what mine are.
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Post by: Ben on May 05, 2004, 10:35:16 AM
Re Ken Mandelbaum, having seen both shows (actually all 3, Wicked, Caroline and Wonderful Town), I'm not so sure that it's a race just between Murphy and Pinkins.  I think Idina has a chance. Pinkins does an excellent job and her 11 O'clock number is quite wonderful but the show, for me, does not come together as a whole, thrilling piece worthy of a Tony. There are some wonderful, exciting pieces within the show (I enjoyed the humanizing of the appliances), and some good, solid performances but I just feel like it never gels into a complete whole evening. I wanted to like it so much. I think Pinkins is a great talent and I love the work of Kushner and Tesori but I'm just not attracted to this show. I've been thinking about it for a while now (I have to write a review of the show and condense it into 90 seconds, yikes!) and it's so hard to put my feelings about the show into understandable words. Suffice it to say, getting back to Mandlebaum, I don't think Pinkins will win. She will be nominated, absolutely, but I think the race is more between Menzel and Murphy. Chenowith is absolutely delightful. I adore her. She is charming and funny and has a gorgeous voice, (here's the but you're waiting for) but, she has a bag of tricks which she performs with amazing talent. I loved her performance in Wicked but as I watched, I thought, I've seen that before or I've heard that before. That's why I think it's between Miss Murphy and Miss Menzel. Menzel's Defying Gravity number is GREAT. I feel, after seeing all three performances that Menzel should win. I don't know if she will, but I think she should.

I feel like I'm rambling again so I will close out and get back to work.
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 10:38:20 AM
DR George, you are so sweet to thank everyone individually.
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Post by: JMK on May 05, 2004, 10:39:06 AM
Now, now, if you kids can't be nice to each other you'll have to go to your separate rooms.  DON'T MAKE ME COME IN THERE!  :)  (Are my most excellent parenting skills coming through the internet).

My Ask BK question:  do you ever watch the daily talk shows, like Oprah and/or Dr. Phil?  Do you have a favorite?
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 10:40:44 AM
DR Ben, I have not seen Wicked, but I wonder if Idina really has a shot to win a Tony.  Kristin seems to be the one most people talk about in that show.

Also, I wonder if Donna Murphy isn't the favorite.  I saw her do Wonderful Town when it was at Encores and she was wonderful.  And she seems to be who a lot of people are saying will win.
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Post by: Sandra on May 05, 2004, 10:42:22 AM
In my Geology class today, I will get to see two girls do an interpretive dance about the Geologic time scale. I am really looking forward to this. I opted to write a poem instead, mainly because that doesn't have to be performed. So I don't know if I just had the Geologic time scale on my mind on Thursday, or if my English teacher was wearing trilobite earrings. I really wouldn't be surprised if she was. Sometimes I think she's the teacher from The Magic Schoolbus.

The hee-uh count for today was 68, quite remarkable considering we started class about five minutes late.
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 10:43:37 AM
DR George, you are so sweet to thank everyone individually.

Well, thank you...but it's also to get me to 1000 posts more quickly! ;)  But I really do appreciate the birthday wishes. :-*
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 10:43:37 AM

Okay now let's have the Page Four Genie Dance!

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Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 10:44:54 AM
Panni, not to beat a horse muerte, but you'd already expressed yours in a previous post.  That is what made your subsequent post seem like you thought he was speaking for you (again, look at the wording in your post).  That is all.  Over and out.

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Post by: Sandra on May 05, 2004, 10:44:55 AM
And happy birthday to Dear Reader George and to Dear Lurker HollyLynn.

Someone is printing a lot of papers and the printer is making the same noise my cat Tumbly makes in his sleep. Dear Reader Laura will know what I'm talking about.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 05, 2004, 10:46:30 AM
And almost a Bacharach one too!  ;)

Oooooooh! Got me!  Yes!  Indeedy!  Bacharach!!!

You have a delicate touch, Maya.  You should go into the diplomatic corps!
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 10:46:48 AM

My Ask BK question:  do you ever watch the daily talk shows, like Oprah and/or Dr. Phil?  Do you have a favorite?

No, I never watch talk shows.  I don't think I've seen a daytime talk show since Mike Douglas.  I think I watched half a Rosie once, and I do admit to tuning into what was the latest incarnation of The Donny and Marie Show a few years ago.
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Post by: Jay on May 05, 2004, 10:48:00 AM
A question for all: If you could choose one, and only one, film that you wish had never been made, which one would it be?

Giving a reason why is optional, of course.

Triumph of the Will.  My reasoning should be self-evident.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 10:53:17 AM
You know, I feel that soon we will be the most popular site on all the Internet.  Just perusing other sites I think none can boast of nearly 100 posts before eleven o'clock.  Not that we are boasting of our posting, that would be unseemly.   No boasts of our posts here - except, of course, the content, which IS the finest on all the Internet.  I think if fairness to us, we are the berries.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 10:54:46 AM
All right, dear reader Panni has convinced me that we should lunch on the authentic food of Meheeco, so that we'll be doing.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 11:01:01 AM


               Olť!
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 11:03:41 AM
I shall be having my favorite dish of Old Meheeco - frijoles muerte or, for those of you not schooled in the language of Old Meheeco, dead beans.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 11:07:22 AM
Panni, not to beat a horse muerte,

The horse is at the glue factory. Over and out.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 05, 2004, 11:12:29 AM
"She lives in Newfoundland. I think they eat seal peckerhead there. So she may take that as a compliment."



By any chance, Panni, does your xmil live in the town of Dildo?

(No, DRs, I am NOT making that up.)
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Post by: Jrand69 on May 05, 2004, 11:23:21 AM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Happy Birthday, DRGEORGE!!!  ;D[/move]

Welcome to DRHOLLYLYNN.  ;)

While I think a lot of the choreography in XANADU is bad, there are some nice moments as well.  And I do love Olivia in it.  It's very nice how she sings her big song at the end "Suspended in Time" and the camera really doesn't do anything except get closer and closer to her ending on her face.  I like that song.  And I also think it is interesting to see the women who play the muses - including Sandahl Bergman - who are obviously trained dancers - not street dancers a step above lap dancers and strippers (see MOST music videos).  Ortega didn't know what to do with them, but the training shows.

GREASE - that dumb kid's glasses were the WRONG style....those glasses he wore were not sold until the 1970's - I lost the sense of time period when he showed up....AND did you see Edd Byrnes' front flip at the end of hand jive!!  ;D

Movie I wish had never been made....hmmmmmmmm....have to think about that.

My question for ASK BK day:  How do they broadcast movies on television?  I know years ago they used to use a projection device called a telecine that actually used the move on reels....do they use tapes or DVD's now?  What is the technology?

Good vibes on your Psychic Radio Show...when does your movie start?  Do you know your lines?  :P

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Post by: Jrand69 on May 05, 2004, 11:25:10 AM
Oh DR CP - I will recount Frank'ssssssssssss death if you like but it will spoil it for you if you're planning on watching EL CID anytime soon.
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 11:25:52 AM
Mexican food sounds great.  I could sure use me some chicken enchiladas!
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Post by: Matt H. on May 05, 2004, 11:26:06 AM
Happy Birthday, DR George!!

The contestants on AI most definitely choose their own songs from a list provided by the producers. If, after working with the song the vocal coach decides the song just isn't right for the performer, she will try to dissuade him from singing it, but in the end, the final decision rests with the singer and the singer alone.

Charles, I once again reiterate that what seems overdone and overly familiar to us over-50 year olds is not to the remainder of the vast AMERICAN IDOL audience. Gershwin, Berlin, Porter, Kern, and Rodgers mean very, very little to most of the under-50 crowd that AMERICAN IDOL so covets.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on May 05, 2004, 11:27:55 AM
Re: Best Actress in a musical... this is one of the reasons I think pitting performers against one another is ridiculous.  Throw in the fact that many out-of-town Tony voters will vote for whatever and whomever might play their town, and you can see how foolish this whole competition is.  (Excepting the out-of-town voters, I feel the same about the Oscars, Emmies, Pia Zadoras --- I mean Golden Globes ---, etc.)  That said, all four of these women are wonderful, and you could handicap the race any way.  Performances aside, Donna and Kristin both miss a lot of shows (that hurt Bernadette last year) and both are leaving their shows soon.  Tonya received a lot of bad press when she fell behind in her child support.  Only Idina has never won.  Had Kristen & Idina been nominated for a joint award like Alice & Emily, there would have been no beating them.  And although the women involved in both WICKED and CAROLINE got good reviews, the shows themself did not.  The public likes WICKED and it is selling out, although if you asked many theatregoers who the two stars were they might not be able to tell you their names (but would rave about the flying monkeys).  No matter who wins this award, she will deserve it as much as, but no more than, the other three.  That is not usually the case.  Mandelbaum starts writing about the Tonys a year in advance and places too much emphasis on them.  I think he is wrong in calling this particular Best Musical race as a competition between just two ladies.  The field is much stronger than it has been in years.  My one prediction is that it will be one of these four actresses and not whomever is chosen for the 5th nomination.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 05, 2004, 11:31:49 AM
A friend of mine connected to the current revival of A RAISIN IN THE SUN told me that P Diddy has an earpiece through which he gets his lines, blocking, and cues fed nightly. Perhaps that's why his performance seemed robotic to you.

I am NOT a fan of the musical RAISIN. This play is so powerful that I do not find it enhanced in any way by the addition of music. (I don't find the score all that wonderful anyway. Hansbury's words are all the music the show needs.)
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 11:33:16 AM
Btw, I know this question for BK, but I'm curious about which talk shows DR watch.

I never watch Oprah or Dr. Phil.  But I do like The View.

And I'm not sure if Ryan Seacrest's new show is considered a talk show.  But his show is quite amusing and different.  And every Thursday, you get to see the person voted off American Idol.

Earlier this week he had the cast of the OC on.  I'll bet I'm the only one here who watches that show. :)
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 11:36:30 AM
Dan-in-TO - Unfortunately, my ex-m-i-l doesn't live in Dildo.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 11:38:47 AM
Anyone read the weekend NY Times profile of Tonya Pinkins?  What a life!
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 11:38:49 AM
DR WEL wrote:
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Had Kristen & Idina been nominated for a joint award like Alice & Emily, there would have been no beating them.

Do you mean that you think that Kristin and Idina should be nominated together for a Tony (like Alice Ripley and Emily Skinner were?).

I was totally devastated that Alice and Emily lost.  Their performances were beyond incredible.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 05, 2004, 11:38:52 AM
As with so many awards, you can't predict a winner JUST by looking at the performances. So much more goes into the votes people cast. One thing WEL mentioned that I think is VERY significant is that Idina has never won while the other three have. Tonya also staged that sit-out some months back for a big salary increase that didn't reap her very positive press. I know if I were voting, I'd remember that Tony that Donna Murphy won the year Julie Andrews removed herself from consideration (though the nomination stood) and figure she already had a second Tony and not be so willing to grant her a third one so soon. (Of course, Audra McDonald won three in five years, so that certainly didn't stop anyone from voting for her last two winning performances.)

I haven't heard CAROLINE or CHANGE, so it's hard to be able to compare in any way, but on the basis of cast album performances of the other three, I'd give it to Idina without even a second thought.

If ASSASSINS doesn't extend again, I plan to see CAROLINE this summer when I go up (if it's still playing).
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 11:47:32 AM
A friend of mine connected to the current revival of A RAISIN IN THE SUN told me that P Diddy has an earpiece through which he gets his lines, blocking, and cues fed nightly. Perhaps that's why his performance seemed robotic to you.

Do you think he gets all his lines, or just when he forgets them?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 05, 2004, 11:52:17 AM
I'm tired and cranky, I've been up all night working on my script, and I've had too little sleep.

1) Panni, you were the one who said granny has not had made any effort of a relationship with your daughter for ten years.  Isn't that about half your daughter's life?  It seems to be if she still expects a birthday call from you to cheer her up, then there's a whole guilt/power game being played there I don't want to even get into.  It has nothing to do with being noble, good, proper, or karma.  Why feel obligated to "cheer" up a woman whose only real connection to you at this point is through your daughter whom she's apparently ignored for half the girl's life?  I don't get either the expectations or obligations of that from either side.

2)RLP, I jotted most of my AI observations down last night.  Big Band arrangements (and they were great arrangements) aren't the same as Big Band songs.  Songs written long after the Big Band era and dressed up in Big Band trappngs don't cut it for me.  You might as well have called it standard/movie/show tune night as well as Big Band night. There were plenty of songs (some movie and shows tunes, yes, but a whole lot that weren't) that were actually popularized and became standards through their Big Band recordings.  Why couldn't we've have heard a few of those? I made my list last night.

Choices were obvious, predictable, and stylings were derivative.  Even those competent were really out of their depth.  Give me Helen O' Connell, Frances Gifford, Ray Eberle, Vaughn Monroe, or Skinnay Ennis anyday.

Simon hardly damned Clay Aiken to anything by stating his voice was Broadway (it would be better served by Broadway than most of the mediocre crap he's forced to sing these days).  It's quite apparent that, despite coming in second to Reuben, his popularity and the depth of his talent has served him better than Reuben and that his star has risen probably higher than any of the other contestants from any year.  He's the only one who I can actually see still possibly being around five years from now.  It will be because of the Broadway qualities and range of his voice.  

Simon is the most honest judge there.  I don't always agree with him, but about ninety percent of the time, he's right on the money for me.  If anything, he's gotten a little softer this year.  He actually said last night that he liked this kind of music (I'm still not sure it's the kind of music "pop" idols sing though, which is usually his point...Britney Spears hasn't released her standards album yet...thank God!).

Grrrr, snarl, woof!  Damn them all, Damn them all to Hell.  I'm ready to bitch-slap any and all!
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Post by: Jrand69 on May 05, 2004, 11:53:50 AM
WEL thanks for the Raisin in the Sun review....and interesting sidebar MATTH.
Title: Re:CINCO DE MUSTARD
Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 11:54:38 AM
Jennifer: Anyone can answer any question.

Jrand: I believe they use DVDs now or some form of digi-beta.  

It's obvious in Xanadu that Kelly did his own choreography - it's like a breath of fresh air.  But, oh, that script.  And Michael Beck.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 05, 2004, 11:57:48 AM
MattH, if the likes of Gershwin, Porter, etc or Big Band era music means nothing to the audience the network covets, then I'm mystified why they go through the exercise at all...

Why don't they just have them sing the pop top-forty crap week after week that their audience listens to?  That would certainly make it easier on me.  I wouldn't have to tune in then (though with this dubious crop of talent this year, they're making that easier and easier to do each week.  I doubt I'll be around for season four).
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 05, 2004, 11:58:06 AM
I stand by my comments.  

Simon "damned" LaToya with the Broadway slur last night.  No matter how he said it was "good," he meant it as a slur.

Simon is an ass.  
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 05, 2004, 12:02:10 PM
Panni,

Sorry - I meant to ask does your "ex" m-i-l live in Dildo?

I've since added an "x" - now it looks like a roman numeral.

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Post by: Matt H. on May 05, 2004, 12:02:55 PM
I was told that during previews he was being fed almost every line plus blocking cues. One would hope things would be sinking in now from constant repetition. It was obvious to all that he has put very little work into the production compared to his illustrious co-stars.
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Post by: MBarnum on May 05, 2004, 12:15:44 PM
DR Jennifer, I know I have never seen O.C...but I did meet the sister of Adam Brody (I think that is his name) who used to be on that show. My neice Megan goes to school (U of 0) with Adam's sister and she brought her to my mom's birthday party on Saturday. Adam is now on The Gilmore Girls which is another show I have never seen. His sister (whose name escapes me) is heading down to Los Angeles soon to begin her acting career. She is adorable and was a lot of fun to talk to.

I don't really watch any talk shows. When I was a kid I watched Mike Douglas and Dinah Shore a lot...then later I watched Donohue and Oprah. But I can't recall the last time I watched a talk show in recent years.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 05, 2004, 12:22:11 PM
RLP, Simon is not an ass.  He is one of the main reasons people watch the show.
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Post by: Ben on May 05, 2004, 12:24:19 PM
Sometimes if I'm surfing and happen across Ellen I will watch for a while. The same with Oprah. I don't watch (or tape since I work during the day and sleep at night)  any of the others. Though I do really enjoy The Daily Show when I see it. It's funny and intelligent and John Stewart has the right amount of attitude for the presentation.
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Post by: Jrand69 on May 05, 2004, 12:29:16 PM
Talk shows.....which are now, as has been spoken about here, promotion fests...but I used to like The Jack Paar Show, The Merv Griffin Show (syndicated), and in the summer time waiting for the afternoon movie to start, I would watch Virginia Graham and Girl Talk.  Mike Douglas was okay but it was certainly ALL ABOUT MIKE (Merv at least acted interested in his guests and asked good questions), Mike had one co-host for a week all five shows, so sometimes it got a bit boring, especially when he "sang."

MBARNUM had a brush with greatness at the party....the gang from THE OC were on MADtv last Saturday night.
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Post by: Jane on May 05, 2004, 12:29:18 PM
FS Pogue - I behave "properly" not for grannie, but for me. Why should I behave as badly as she does? I don't give a flying fig what she thinks about me. I DO care about what I think about me, though.

I completely agree with you! :)
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 05, 2004, 12:32:21 PM
I sometimes watched Canadian talk shows if there was an interviewee of interest. Do any other Canadian DRs remember Dini Petty? She spoke out of the side of her mouth (literally; as in Eugene Levy in Best in Show having two left feet), and that was the least of her problems. She was loud and poorly prepared. And she once used the term "hymie" to describe someone as "cheap."
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 12:45:27 PM
DR Jennifer, I know I have never seen O.C...but I did meet the sister of Adam Brody (I think that is his name) who used to be on that show. My neice Megan goes to school (U of 0) with Adam's sister and she brought her to my mom's birthday party on Saturday. Adam is now on The Gilmore Girls which is another show I have never seen.

Okay I'm sure nobody cares but you got the shows reversed.  Adam Brody (who currently plays Seth Cohen on The OC) was on Gilmore Girls LAST season (as Rory's best friend's boyfriend Dave).

But he has shot to stardom this season playing Seth on The OC.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 05, 2004, 12:46:38 PM
Did anyone see the ad for 42nd Street, featuring Shirely Jones and Patrick Cassidy? Patrick has certainly inherited his dad's dashing looks. The resemblance between father and son is remarkable.
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Post by: Jane on May 05, 2004, 12:47:58 PM
I think you've misinterpreted my post - or perhaps it was not clearly worded. Why would I think he was speaking for me? He was expressing HIS viewpoint and I was expressing MINE. He told me what his beliefs are and I told him what mine are.

Which is how I read it.  

This is an interesting dicussion.
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Post by: Ben on May 05, 2004, 12:53:04 PM
Haven't seen the ad DIT but I did meet the stage manager of 42nd Street over the weekend and she said that both Mother and Son are delightful, friendly and easy to work with. I've enjoyed Mr. Cassidy since I first remember seeing him in Long Time Companion (one of my favorite early 90s movies, oh what a tear jerker).
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Post by: Jane on May 05, 2004, 12:58:05 PM
Happy birthday and welcome HolyLynn.

MBarnum great welcome sign.

Iím tired, didnít sleep much and am a bit stressed getting ready for L.A.  I think this has delayed my reactions, but suddenly Iím giggling at the thought of Charles Pogue needing Bruce or anyone to come to his defense.  Charles I hope you take that as a compliment. :)
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Post by: Matt H. on May 05, 2004, 01:01:51 PM
Patrick and our own hunky Brent Barrett shared that special moment on their soap opera in LONGTIME COMPANION. For me, it was one of the most memorable moments in that wonderful film.
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Post by: Jane on May 05, 2004, 01:01:55 PM
Did anyone see the ad for 42nd Street, featuring Shirely Jones and Patrick Cassidy? Patrick has certainly inherited his dad's dashing looks. The resemblance between father and son is remarkable.

Interesting, I havenít seen either of the Cassidy boys in awhile, but I always thought Patrick looked like his mother.  I do recall the first time I saw David, without knowing, that he must be his fatherís son.
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Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on May 05, 2004, 01:02:30 PM
Just got finished listening to BOUNCE.It is not the greatest of scores from Sondheim. However,even a good score by this man is better than most. Not a Great score but a wonderful one IMHO.
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Post by: Jennifer on May 05, 2004, 01:06:00 PM
I want to hear BOUNCE! :(

When I was much younger, I used to have pictures of Sean Cassidy in my room.  He was my hunk of choice (I guess it must have been the late 70s?).
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Post by: HollyLynn on May 05, 2004, 01:07:55 PM
Thanks to everyone for the birthday wishes.  I just polished off a piece of spice cake with a side of coffee ice cream.  Very yummy!

Some of you asked about me so here goes...I am offically thirty-one years old and have loved all things realted to theatre--musical and otherwise--since I can remember.  I graduated from college with a theatre degree and ended up as adminstrator at a community college.  Go figure!

My American Idol take--(I typically hate reality shows, but I'm hooked on AI) As I was watching last night's show, I was wishing that Jennifer Hudson was still around.  However, I thought Fantasia and La Toya were great and Diana has a fighting chance.

Cheers  ;D

HollyLynn
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 05, 2004, 01:08:12 PM
I don't get to watch normal talk shows in the afternoon.  Der Brucer keeps the televisions (yes, plural) tuned to FoxNews.  They don't talk like normal people, they argue.  Bleh.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on May 05, 2004, 01:17:17 PM
Matt---
I thought I saw something in Puffy's ear.  The show was not miked, so I knew it couldn't have been that.  Now it makes sense.

By the way, ASSASSINS has been held over till October.  It can't stay much longer because B D Wong in PACIFIC OVERTURES is coming next and they need time in between to remove the cabaret seating and put in actual theatre seats.  I don't know if the whole cast will remain, although I assume most of them will.
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Post by: Ann on May 05, 2004, 01:26:24 PM
Good afternoon all
Now I want Mexican food.  I went to a mexican place in Tacoma the other day that I'd never been to before...had the most delish taco salad.  Very yum.  I could use one of those right now...ah well, I'm stuck with my tomato soup
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Post by: Ann on May 05, 2004, 01:28:13 PM
A little known fact about me...I used to watch Ricki Lake...a long time ago.  Also would tune into Rosie ODonnell once in a while.  And, god this is embarassing..I've been known to get hooked on those "who is the real father" things they have on Maury.  Sad, I know...I hang my head in shame.  
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Post by: Noel on May 05, 2004, 01:31:46 PM
In my Geology class today, I will get to see two girls do an interpretive dance about the Geologic time scale.

Reminds me of a scene from The New U., the 1984 spoof of campus life for which I wrote the songs.  A student, late with her assignment, presents her essay on the Odyssey accompanied by an interpretive dance.
Now, is life imitating art?

BK question: Why don't the films you made turn up on the countless TV stations that show movies?  I'm not being snarky with this; I truly want to see them!

A happy birthday to George.  I'm celebrating by seeing Bye Bye Birdie at Encores!
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 05, 2004, 01:41:23 PM
I'm back on the job hunt circuit again.  The big opportunity where everyone in the store wanted me hired went bust when the powers that be brought in a new store manager, who not only didn't want to see me, didn't even have the courtesy to come out and meet me herself to say so when I dropped by.

Another bleh.

But I've got some good feelers out as of today.

The one bad feeler was from the Disney Store Outlet, where I was told that a) along with the job application, I would have to fill out info on a credit check - for a part time sales job?  Talk about overkill, no wonder the Disney Store is having problems.  And b) I would have to shave off my beard.  No matter that I've been facially follicled for over twenty years, and off and on before that.  The reasoning given is that "All the Disney villians have facial hair, and they frighten children."

Time for a rant.

Uh, let's see now.  In Snow White, the villian does NOT have facial hair, except for one or two coming out of a mole, while six out of the seven heroes are fuzz-faced.  In Pinocchio, Stromboli has a beard, but Gepetto has a moustache.  But the Coachman is cleanshaven.

Bambi is notable for everyone having fur on the faces, even the women.

OK, Captain Hook has a scraggly moustache.  But the King and Grand Duke in Cinderella have full moustaches, and they're good guys.  Same can be said of Jim Dear, Tony and Joe, in Lady and the Tramp.  Sleeping Beauty's King Stefan and King Hubert are on the good side, both bearded, while Maleficent is not and is not.

Jasper and Horace Badun are clean-shaven.  Merlin's beard reaches to his toes.  Mr. Snoops almost has a moustache, but barely, while the husband who (with his wife) adopts Penny has a full moustache.  It isn't until we get to Fox and Hound that the villian, Amos Slade, has a full moustache, the first such outcropping on a villian since Stromboli.

More recently: Basil is "clean-shaven" (or as best a mouse can manage), while Dr. Dawson has a full moustache, as does Hiram Flaversham.  Ratigan, meanwhile, has a five-o-clock shadow, not a beard.  Sykes is clean-shaven.  King Triton has a beard, the best we've seen since Merlin, while Louis, the chef, has a thin whisp of a moustache.  Percival McLeach is clean-shaven, as is Gaston, while the Beast is magnificently beasty.  The Sultan has a full beard, Jafar a scraggly crinkle, and where would Genie be without his goatee?

Frollo?  Bare.  Phoebus?  Nice tuft on his chin.  Zeus is full-furred, Hades can't even brag about a singe of hair on his chin.  Claton?  Measley little bits of moustache, hardly worth mentioning.  Both Tarzan and Jane's fathers have woofy staches, though.

By the way, my favorite Disney hero, Johnny Appleseed, starts out clean-shaven, but as he ages and plants his apple trees, his beard gets longer and longer.  And I've always loved his Guardian Angel's moustache.

Rough translation: The Disney Store is full of beans with their notion about who has beards and moustaches and who doesn't.

And let's not forget that Walt himself had a moustache.  But not as full a moustache as most of his heroes or good guys.  Hmmmm...let's think about this one, this could be suspicious...

 ;)
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Post by: Noel on May 05, 2004, 01:44:37 PM
When Sara Lazarus and I work together, the rehearsal instantly stops the moment a performer sings a wrong note.  If they're slightly sharp or slightly flat, pitchy in any direction, Sara or I inform the singer and, soon enough, the problem goes away.  Some times, this can be quite frightening.  Someone who has only thirty minutes left to get acting and blocking notes will be stopped for pitch problems, and may end up getting no staging or interpretive notes at all!  That's the way we work, and we just got another of our people cast, in an off-Broadway show called Fame on 42nd Street.

So, eager not to miss a precious second of 24, I flipped on the TV a tad early, and they had clips of singers doing standards (and Crazy Little Thing Called Love, which isn't a standard by any measure) -- and several had pitch problems!  How is this possible?

One can only conclude that the producers of that program limit thier contest to folks they are certain will crack under pressure.  None of the 23 performers in our show in April missed a note.  What explains the near-misses I witnessed at 8:55 last night?
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Post by: Robin on May 05, 2004, 01:54:01 PM
First off...HAPPY NATAL ANNIVERSARY DAY to both George and Hollylynn!

Second off...about standing ovations.  Here in Minneapolis, we're so starved for actual Broadway, virtually everything gets a standing ovation.  Even a wretched production of Titanic that blew through here a few years ago.  Actually, I think it would be perfectly appropriate to delete the "through here a few years ago".  

I've only seen two occaisions on Broadway when a STANDING OVATION! was given.  The first one was Sweeney Todd.   The second was The Producers.  
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Post by: Jane on May 05, 2004, 02:15:20 PM
Thanks to everyone for the birthday wishes.  I just polished off a piece of spice cake with a side of coffee ice cream.  Very yummy!

Oh that sounds good.

Thanks for the little bio, and it's nice you have joined us.
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Post by: Jane on May 05, 2004, 02:21:57 PM
SWW-LOL  GOOD JPART TIME JOB VIBES!

I forgot to mention-Penny O says hi.  She is currently taking her friend on a tour of Ashland.

Speaking of Ashland, the people here are very free with their standing ovations (and I donít mean just for the top quality shows).  A number of times Keith & I have joined the rest of the crowd, however, most often we have just looked on in amazement.
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Post by: Jrand69 on May 05, 2004, 02:22:09 PM
Gee, I don't lead many standing ovations...have seen a LOT of them as DRROBIN says, because we are happy to see anything.

I lot of times I have felt soem individuals have deserved special consideration in the curtain call including Thomas James O'Leary in PHANTOM here in Indy a few years ago, the cast of LES MIZ who just worked so hard - I like that show, and a touring company of EVITA almost ten years ago that also worked very hard and did a great job.

Locally we get a few SO's at the barn theatre and Megan got several for her one-woman LUCY, deservedly so - they are more common place than they used to be - but I know as a performer, it's still exciting to see from the stage.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 02:35:29 PM
My films never show up on cable anymore because no one knows where to license them.  It's very convoluted, although I might try doing something about Nudie on the cable, where it was once a staple.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 02:35:53 PM
I am filled to the brim with the authentic foods of Meheeco.
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 02:36:16 PM
Sometimes if I'm surfing and happen across Ellen I will watch for a while. The same with Oprah. I don't watch (or tape since I work during the day and sleep at night)  any of the others. Though I do really enjoy The Daily Show when I see it. It's funny and intelligent and John Stewart has the right amount of attitude for the presentation.

I love Ellen, but for some reason, I never got into watching her show the way I obsessively watched Rosie's.  However, I love The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.  Maybe it's because he's so damed cute! ;)
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 02:36:29 PM
Looks like we're going to try to keep The DVD Place going albeit with a name change.  I'll have more info shortly.
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Post by: Jed on May 05, 2004, 02:39:31 PM
Standing ovations - Absolutely ridiculous how every performance gets them now.  As I've said before, I am frequently "the jerk who won't stand up," but I have absolutely no problem with it.  Glare at me all you want, I'm just being honest about my view of what I saw/heard.  Certainly, there are times I'll join in, but only when I find the performance worthy.
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Post by: Jed on May 05, 2004, 02:40:52 PM
I am a great fan of The Daily Show... along with SportsCenter, it's what I miss most about cable.
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Post by: Jed on May 05, 2004, 02:42:49 PM
Mmmm... all this talk of authentic foods of Meheeco has me hungry.  I think I shall be fixing some for myself this evening... perhaps something in the pork fajita category.
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Post by: Maya on May 05, 2004, 02:42:55 PM
Last night's "American Idol":

LaToya -- Classy, elegant, and a stylist in her own right. She has a classic voice and her performance in "Big Band" was extraordinary, IMO.  She, too, could be the best, yet, "American Idol."  I'm damned if I can choose between them.  (I could NOT vote for LaToya last night.  I tried her line for an hour and 45 minutes and it was consistently busy).


I was blown away by LaToya, and I text messaged my vote.  Hey, it's only 10 cents!

Oooooooh! Got me!  Yes!  Indeedy!  Bacharach!!!

You have a delicate touch, Maya.  You should go into the diplomatic corps!

*giggles*

Quote from: Dan-in-Toronto

Happy Cinco de Mayo Maya

[quote

Hehe, thanks, Dan, you too!  I TOTALLY want some Mexican food right now.

Re Ken Mandelbaum, having seen both shows (actually all 3, Wicked, Caroline and Wonderful Town), I'm not so sure that it's a race just between Murphy and Pinkins.  I think Idina has a chance. Pinkins does an excellent job and her 11 O'clock number is quite wonderful but the show, for me, does not come together as a whole, thrilling piece worthy of a Tony. There are some wonderful, exciting pieces within the show (I enjoyed the humanizing of the appliances), and some good, solid performances but I just feel like it never gels into a complete whole evening. I wanted to like it so much. I think Pinkins is a great talent and I love the work of Kushner and Tesori but I'm just not attracted to this show. I've been thinking about it for a while now (I have to write a review of the show and condense it into 90 seconds, yikes!) and it's so hard to put my feelings about the show into understandable words. Suffice it to say, getting back to Mandlebaum, I don't think Pinkins will win. She will be nominated, absolutely, but I think the race is more between Menzel and Murphy. Chenowith is absolutely delightful. I adore her. She is charming and funny and has a gorgeous voice, (here's the but you're waiting for) but, she has a bag of tricks which she performs with amazing talent. I loved her performance in Wicked but as I watched, I thought, I've seen that before or I've heard that before. That's why I think it's between Miss Murphy and Miss Menzel. Menzel's Defying Gravity number is GREAT. I feel, after seeing all three performances that Menzel should win. I don't know if she will, but I think she should.

I feel like I'm rambling again so I will close out and get back to work.

I hope Donna Murphy wins!!!!!  I think it's between her and Idina personally--I don't think Tonya Pinkins has endeared herself to voters by the huge salary demands.  And while Kristin was phenomenal (I actually preferred her to Idina), the latter had a much showier role.  Though any of them could certainly take it!

My films never show up on cable anymore because no one knows where to license them.  It's very convoluted, although I might try doing something about Nudie on the cable, where it was once a staple.

You should definitely try for that, BK!  

Oh...and I forgot to mention before...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HOLLY LYNN!!
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Post by: Jed on May 05, 2004, 02:45:12 PM
Goodness, I've become a mini-frenzy.  I've let our dear birthday boy George get far too far ahead of me in post numbers and must do some catching up! :D
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 02:55:39 PM
Dan-in-TO - bk needs proof that not only crazy people (me) take walks in that wonderful huge cemetery in TO where Teresa Stratas' father, Glenn Gould, and other notables are buried. Near Bayview? Can't recall.
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Post by: Jay on May 05, 2004, 02:58:50 PM
Dan-in-TO - bk needs proof that not only crazy people (me) take walks in that wonderful huge cemetery in TO where Teresa Stratas' father, Glenn Gould, and other notables are buried. Near Bayview? Can't recall.

Glenn Gould was the father of Teresa Stratas?  I never knew that.

 ;)
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Post by: Robin on May 05, 2004, 03:03:40 PM
It's very convoluted, although I might try doing something about Nudie on the cable, where it was once a staple.

That's where I saw Nudie Musical.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 03:04:20 PM
Yes, her real name is Teresa Gould.  She married Humphrey Stratas and the rest is history.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 03:26:27 PM
What is this, our first Cinco de Mustard lull of the day?  No lulls, baby, what would our cousins from Meheeco think?
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 03:32:11 PM
1) Panni, you were the one who said granny has not had made any effort of a relationship with your daughter for ten years.  Isn't that about half your daughter's life?  It seems to be if she still expects a birthday call from you to cheer her up, then there's a whole guilt/power game being played there I don't want to even get into.  It has nothing to do with being noble, good, proper, or karma.  Why feel obligated to "cheer" up a woman whose only real connection to you at this point is through your daughter whom she's apparently ignored for half the girl's life?  I don't get either the expectations or obligations of that from either side.

Pogue - And then we can put the topic to rest... You've made a more dramatic story of this than is the case. Understandable as that's what you (and I) fo for a living, but the fact is that I said in my initial post - and now wish I had not brought up the whole thing - that grandma had not visited with my daughter in over ten years, NOT that she'd made no effort at some kind of relationship. That part of the story comes from you. I can understand how you might infer that, but I certainly never said it. Grandma calls Rachel on holidays, special occasions, sends her presents for birthdays, Christmas, sometimes calls her just to chat, etc.. -- but she has made no effort to physically see her. That's what my initial vent was about. I even went back to check it just now - and that's what I said.
Furthermore, Grandma doesn't "expect" a call from me, nor do I feel obligated to call - that's something I simply choose to do. (As a matter of fact, I've just discovered that she's in Florida and I have no number for her there, so no call this year.) And none of this is because I'm "noble" --  "noble" is an adjective I would not ever think to place in front of my name. Nor is it because I'm being guilt tripped. That's not a game in which I would chose to take part. Anyway, the woman is not Jewish - even if she did try to guilt trip - which she doesn't - she'd be a hopeless amateur.
I hope all is clear now and the subject is exhausted. I certainly am.

Good luck with the writing - hope it turns out beautifully.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 03:54:57 PM
SWW - Sorry you didn't get the job! And don't get me started on Disney or we'll be here a LONG time.

Jay - As bk said, Teresa is Glenn's child. His love child, actually. He and Maria Callas.... One passionate night of high C's on the high seas. And the rest is history.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 03:55:48 PM
Dan-in-TO - Yes, I saw the ad and it spooked me. It thought it WAS Jack Cassidy.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 04:05:12 PM
Found the name of the cemetery where I used to take walks... Mount Pleasant Cemetery. As I looked at a Google list of some of the notables buried there, I found a few names of people I knew who were still alive when I was living in Toronto. Life goes on (a PALS reference!)
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 04:06:40 PM
A posting frenzy of one. The foods of Meheeco are giving me super posting powers.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 04:08:35 PM
More hot pies, more hot pies!  And one for Mahler.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 05, 2004, 04:08:35 PM
DR Panni,

It's Mount Pleasant Cemetery, resting place of department store founders T. Eaton and R. Simpson; insulin discoverers Banting and Best; and Mary Pickford's family. I once rode my bike through the grounds and stopped at the Eaton Mausoleum. Squinting through the bars of a little window, I saw the most exquisite Persian carpet (with bird crap all over it). But not only the rich and famous are resting at Mount Pleasant. There's a section with little "condos" (seemingly favored by Chinese-Canadians). And a friend of mine from a prominent family arranged to have his late super buried there.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 04:10:59 PM
bk - Good that the DVD Place lives! What will you call it? I vote for Zoltan.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 04:13:01 PM
We're limited by what domain names are available, which aren't all that many.  I've come up with about eight choices, and am waiting to hear what the consensus is.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 04:16:36 PM
It's Mount Pleasant Cemetery, resting place of department store founders T. Eaton and R. Simpson; insulin discoverers Banting and Best; and Mary Pickford's family.

And I found my old friend Charles Israel's name on the list, fairly recently added. A wonderful writer (THE MARK).  A scribe has snuck in with the department store heirs and the old Prime Ministers! He and Gould must be hanging out together.

bk - See! Dan rides his bike in there - so my walking there is not so nutty, is it now?
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 04:21:11 PM
We're limited by what domain names are available, which aren't all that many.  I've come up with about eight choices, and am waiting to hear what the consensus is.

Just take my advice: Zoltan. As in Zoltan Karpathy. I can hear it now..."Let's check out Zoltan to see what Kimmel has to say about..."
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 05, 2004, 04:27:02 PM
So, eager not to miss a precious second of 24, I flipped on the TV a tad early, and they had clips of singers doing standards (and Crazy Little Thing Called Love, which isn't a standard by any measure) -- and several had pitch problems!  How is this possible?

One can only conclude that the producers of that program limit thier contest to folks they are certain will crack under pressure.  None of the 23 performers in our show in April missed a note.  What explains the near-misses I witnessed at 8:55 last night?

The theme of the show was "Big Band", but it was not restricted to "standards" as some wish to imply.  And the singers are "amateurs" and not professionals.

I'm sure they're all eager to venture into a world where no one is allowed to have a pitch problem...and apparently NEVER sings a wrong note during a performance.

I can't understand it, though -- it happens in professional theater more often than one would think...at least, it's happened in shows I've seen, and all of them came from, or went to, Broadway with casts intact.  

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Post by: Jay on May 05, 2004, 04:27:09 PM
bk - See! Dan rides his bike in there - so my walking there is not so nutty, is it now?

The Hollywood Forever Cemetery off Santa Monica Boulevard makes for interesting walking, too.  Many of L.A.'s important families (the Chandlers and the Otises, for example, and I forget his first name Griffith, who shot his wife in the eye and gave the land to the city that is now Griffith Park) are in there, as are quite a few well-known folks from the entertainment industry.

You can wander in there on your own, or they give tours periodically.
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 04:43:38 PM
Thank you Sandra and Jack and Matt H. and Noel and Robin for the birthday wishes!

Now how many more before 1000?
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 04:44:13 PM
Two!
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 04:44:23 PM
One!
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 04:44:33 PM
1000!!!!
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 04:45:04 PM
And one for Mahler! (a BK/Sondheim reference) ;D
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Post by: Emily on May 05, 2004, 04:48:19 PM
happy birthday (and congrats) to George! :D
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 05, 2004, 04:48:58 PM
DR SWW,

I too enjoy your food-related posts, and look forward to hearing about dinner with the critic. Have you considered looking for a job in food services?
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Post by: MBarnum on May 05, 2004, 04:49:58 PM
Wow, George ...two milestones in one day!

(http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/grinser/grinning-smiley-018.gif)
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 05:07:54 PM
Thanks Emily and MBarnum!

Lunch was...well, we had good food, but the service would have been good if the restaurant had had more than two waitpersons for the entire place!  We get there right about noon and it's pretty full (we have reservations and get to our table right away).  It's about 20 minutes before our waiter takes our drink order (two diet Pepsis, one coffee and water).  It's another 20 minutes before we get the drinks and our food orders are taken.  It's then more than 40 minutes before we get our food!  I had the tostada and enchilada combo with rice and beans.  Pretty standard choice for me, but quite tasty.  Anyway, after we ate, we told the guy that it's my birthday and I'd like a picture (so that I could post it here at HHW), so he said he'd get the camera.  After another 20 minutes (I was amazed that it was almost exactly 20 minutes between his stops), he said that there was no film in the camera!  AARRGGHH!! >:( So, we finally pay and get ready to leave when he comes up with a free birthday flan for me.  A couple of my friends had to leave, so my friend Misi (thatís her full, legal name) stays and we chat and share the flan, which is pretty good.  That was my lunch!

For dinner, my sister and her boyfriend, my niece and I are all going to Applebee's.  Hopefully, I wonít still be full from lunch, since we'll get there at about 6:45 or so.  And I know that they'll have more than two people waiting on everyone. ::)
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Post by: William E. Lurie on May 05, 2004, 05:29:13 PM
Woody---
Even though the man whose name is on the company always wore a mustache, you must be clean shaven to work in any job where you come in contact with the public if you want to work for Eisner!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 05, 2004, 05:40:20 PM
Minor mystery solved:

I now know why I was unable to get through on LaToya's phone line last night!

Yesterday was "LaToya London Day" by Mayoral Decree in Oakland.  Jerry Brown joined a huge gathering of folks at a barbecue joint near Jack London Square to celebrate LaToya, to watch her perform, and to call in for the two hours of voting allotted to the West  Coast.  They had extra phones and cell phones and apparently kept those lines busy until they were closed.

If LaToya leaves tonight, it will be a scandal in the making!
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Post by: Jrand69 on May 05, 2004, 05:40:27 PM
LOL one thousand posts....pikers!  LOL....bwah hah hah!

DR PANNI I played Zoltan Karpathy once, with a great Elmer Fudd voice....it was only for one night....and we rehearsed it so everyone knew....but it was very funny.  Of course the Albert Einstein wig helped!

"I weceived these decowwations for wanguage....."
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 05:42:26 PM
DR PANNI I played Zoltan Karpathy once, with a great Elmer Fudd voice....it was only for one night....and we rehearsed it so everyone knew....but it was very funny.  Of course the Albert Einstein wig helped!
"I weceived these decowwations for wanguage....."

Funny! ;D
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 05:44:39 PM
Wasn't there a horror movie called Zoltan with Jose Ferrer?

Just got off the phone with my friend and muse Margaret - she'd finally read the book all the way through and now really loves it - but she had six or seven things she wanted me to look at, and since she's never wrong about that stuff, I made changes and additions and just read them to her and she thought they were perfect.  It's funny, even when I think I might not want to do something, I end up doing it because I trust her so much, and then those bits become total favorites.  So, I have one more little thing to add (she agrees with me about the addition - really tiny, but I have to find the right place for it) and then I'm done for now, and will start thinking about how to get this to a publisher.  
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Post by: Danise on May 05, 2004, 05:49:14 PM
Evening all!

Happy Birthday, DR George and New DR HolyLynn!  Many, many more to you both!

I thought I would have wonderful pictures for you. My first four o'clocks bloomed today.  I must say I am disapointed.  They were the same old pink blooms.  Sigh.  I so wanted white/yellow/mixed colors.  Perhaps the pink bloomed first because they are the strongest.  I hope so.

Where are you guys reading about the DVD place?  I went over to the board last night and I can't find anything that says it's going to close or anything.  Is that from Rob?

Still working on a way to use the Pocket PC to connect with the net.  I signed up with MSN tonight and sent their help desk an e-mail asking if it is possible to connect using pocket MSN and just HOW to do that.

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Post by: Tomovoz on May 05, 2004, 05:52:48 PM
Thank you for creating my biggest smile of the day Jrand. Colin laughed too.
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 05, 2004, 05:54:59 PM
I guess Yosemite Sam won't be changing studios then WEL.
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Post by: Jrand69 on May 05, 2004, 05:58:21 PM
LOL TomOVOZ - you shoulda been there!
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Post by: George on May 05, 2004, 06:04:31 PM
Happy Birthday, DR George and New DR HolyLynn!  Many, many more to you both!

Thanks, Danise!

Well, I'm off to dinner now.  I'll make a report later tonight (after dinner, then after I check up on things at my house and then after I get to the house where I'm house-sitting).  It'll be late.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 06:10:22 PM
Just watching the third of the Perry Masons I've TIVOd with Leslie Parrish.  She's so incredibly beautiful it just takes my breath away.  She plays a health instructor and she's in little shorts in her first scene.  My goodness.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 07:03:21 PM
No posts in almost an hour.  These things baffle me.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 07:03:42 PM
Yes, I am a baffled me.  This is me, baffled.  Baffled am I.
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Post by: Jrand69 on May 05, 2004, 07:06:11 PM
No more baffling!

PERRY MASON must have been a tough shoot...they went out on a lot of locations.

MR BK was there really a building at 77 SUNSET STRIP next to Dino's like in the television series?
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 07:12:53 PM
No, there was no building next to Dino's.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 07:20:20 PM
Well, I'll post so another hour doesn't pass.
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Post by: Jrand69 on May 05, 2004, 07:39:59 PM
beautiful night to use the telescope!
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Post by: Sandra on May 05, 2004, 07:47:23 PM
Well, those two girls chickened out and didn't do their interpretive dance.  :( And I was really looking forward to that.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 05, 2004, 07:49:50 PM
In defense of the AMERICAN IDOL contestants:

Facing an audience of 25 million people a week with only a few days' rehearsal is a pretty daunting task for anyone, and these folks are all under 25. Three of them are still teenagers.

And the rehearsals are not just for their own solos. There are group numbers to learn, commercials to be filmed, public appearances to make. The demands on these unseasoned performers are enormous.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 05, 2004, 07:51:09 PM
Woody---
Even though the man whose name is on the company always wore a mustache, you must be clean shaven to work in any job where you come in contact with the public if you want to work for Eisner!
This standard, of always being clean-shaven when working in a public capacity for the Disney company, was  part of the policy long before Eisner took control.  It was part of company policy back in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s.  Placing the blame on Eisner is erronious.  

Besides, if it was such a negative in the Eisner era, how can we explain the number of animators and directors with facial hair that appear on the DVDs in the bonus material?  They certainly are part of putting a public face to the Disney image.

That, and I recall when der Brucer and I went to DisneyWorld that there were a few "castmembers" who had moustaches.  The explanation I was given relates to the Disney Store, not to the Disney company as a whole.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 05, 2004, 07:57:24 PM
Picking up a topic held here a few days ago...

Tonight, as part of our dinner, I made grits!

I sort of feel like I cheated, because I made the Quick Grits version, but at least I didn't stoop so low as to make Instant Grits.

They do, indeed, taste like a corn version of Cream of Wheat.  I slapped a good slather of butter on der B's serving and mine, with several grinds of pepper.  This was alongside a ham steak and B-sprouts.  

They're not bad, if not particularly something to get excited about.  I had to add a few splashes of Tabasco on mine.  On the other hand, I can see how mixing in grated cheese would be a fine sort of side dish.  Maybe some roasted garlic.  Herbs.  I love fresh herbs.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 05, 2004, 07:58:25 PM
Here's to George and his Deux Deus.

That doesn't sound right, does it?   :-\
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Post by: Matt H. on May 05, 2004, 08:00:06 PM
One other thing I wondered about as I watched AMERICAN IDOL tonight.


--potential spoiler so don't read any farther if you don't want information about the results--







When they showed last night's performances in the traditional recap from the previous evening, I wondered if the order in which they showed them (which was not the order in which they sang) was the order of this week's finish.




For the record, the order was George, Jasmine, LaToya, Diana, and Fantasia.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 05, 2004, 08:06:19 PM
Good question, Matt, and I'm surprised you didn't bring it up during our telephone chat tonight.  Thanks so much for your kind words (and the laughs).


[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]And it's MY PAGE 8 DANCE!!![/move]

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Post by: MBarnum on May 05, 2004, 08:15:32 PM
Went to Best Buy after work and picked up the new 2nd volume of Abbott and Costello movies on DVD as well as volume two of the Ma and Pa Kettle films! Can't wait to watch HIT THE ICE which is one of my favorite A&B movies!
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Post by: Matt H. on May 05, 2004, 08:26:15 PM
I knew the second A&C set came out this week (THE TIME OF THEIR LIVES is my favorite A&C after HOLD THAT GHOST in their pre-"Meets" period), but I didn't know the second KETTLE set is out this week. Wow! I haven't even cracked open the first one yet! Argh!
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Post by: MBarnum on May 05, 2004, 08:27:54 PM
Matth it is too bad we don't live in the same part of the country...you and I could have a Kettle's filmfest...you are probably the only person I know that would even watch those with me!!

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Post by: MBarnum on May 05, 2004, 08:29:53 PM
Sad new regarding one of my favorite 1980s bands..



ZURICH, Switzerland (AP) -- Felix Haug, half of the band Double that had a worldwide hit with the song "The Captain of Her Heart" in the 1980s, died Saturday from a heart attack, his family said. He was 52.

Haug, a drummer and keyboard player, joined the trio Ping Pong in 1980 along with singer and guitarist Kurt Maloo. They later decided to perform as a duo and formed Double in 1983.

The band was one of the most popular Swiss musical acts of all time. "The Captain of Her Heart" sold more than 1.5 million singles to become a top-10 hit across Europe in 1986 and reached No. 16 in the U.S. charts.

The album, which included the song "Blue", was released in more than 50 countries.


I have their CD and it is one of my favorites!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 05, 2004, 09:16:11 PM
Good Evening!

This has been a long day for me.  It took me a while to get out of bed, but I managed to post here and get some other stuff done before heading in this afternoon.  The rehearsal went well, and we got through the whole show.  -But it sure was weird playing with both hands again! ;-)  It's always a transition from playing the keyboard part to the piano/conductor's score (and vice versa), but I think I did a pretty good job for my first time.  After the rehearsal I went out with one of the women in the cast for dinner, and it turned out we have a lot of friends in common.  Then came some much needed vegging time - I would have napped, but I doubt I would have gotten back up in time for the show.  Then the show - which went well.  And back to the apartment...

I just had a very nice frozen dinner - Amy's Stuffed Pasta Shells.  (I think I'll be buying them again.)  And then I had a few pieces of chocolate - working my way through the box of Russell Stover I bought last week.  And, soon, I shall have my evening dosage of antibiotics.  -Which is why I had the food.  Ah, well... (ohh, A Little Night Music reference).

DR SWW - Just tell the store manager that you must keep your beard for religious reasons.  -That's how they get around it at the Disney Parks.  ;-)

RE: The Tony Race - I've seen all the possible Best Actress nominees, and, frankly, the one I'd like to see win is Stephanie D'Abruzzo from Avenue Q.  Hopefully, the puppets won't overshadow her performance(s).

As I've stated before, I think Caroline, or Change is more interesting than good.  The "problem" for me is that Caroline does not change.  And she's not supposed to.  Everything changes around her - and it's that juxtaposition that provides the "friction" for the evening.  Caroline is purposely written as a character who does not change - and who is not sympathetic.  I think that aspect will work again Ms. Pinkins more than the bad press she's received (for various reasons).  *It was an interesting article on here in the NY Times - and it was nice to hear her side of things regarding her child support payments, the divorce, the custody battles, the lawyers, etc.  However, the fact that "everyone" is saying that Ms. Pinkins should and will(!) win, may be working for her.

Donna Murphy's major advantage over Kristin Chenoweth and Idina Menzel is that Donna Murphy's role was written as a star turn.  -And she truly gives a "star turn" performance.  I really liked Kristin Chenoweth, and I really like Idina Menzel, but I felt as I was watching Wicked - and in retrospect - that their roles could possibly considered as "featured ensemble".  Yes, they are leads, but the story of Oz is much bigger than both of them - and the physical production is truly much bigger than both of them.  But when Ms. Murphy takes the stage in Wonderful Town, it's most definitely her show.  *I also think that people like giving multiple Tonys to a performer.  -Heck, after the notices she's been receiving, I wouldn't be surprised to see Audra McDonald snaggin another one for A Raisin in the Sun.

-And as for Donna Murphy missing performances... and Kristin Chenoweth missing performances... Hey, people get sick.  People have other obligations.  Blame the bad weather.  Blame bad luck.  Blame their agents who book them for other work.  -And you might as well blame the Equity production contract which makes allowances for ANYONE to miss a show for either personal, professional and/or medical reasons.  Acting on Broadway - or anywhere else - is a job when it comes down to it.  Even "regular jobs" have annual and sick leave.  *And with the standard Production Contract, there's only so many performances you can miss before you start losing money, so...

*I still remember the performance of Jekyll & Hyde where Ms. Eder was sick, but she still went on stage.  BUT - and this is a big BUT - They had Emily Skinner singing the songs on an off-stage mic while Ms. Eder did the blocking!?!?!?!  -Actually, since Ms. Skinner is also known for her "attendance issues", that story is kind of funny in retrospect.

-And, as I think I stated sometime before, Donna Murphy only missed one performance of Passion in the year or so it ran.

And on a personal note - every time I've gone to see a show with Donna Murphy, Audra McDonald, Kristin Chenoweth, or Emily Skinner, they've always been in that night.  So...  -Come to think of it, the only time I saw a standby was Sunset Blvd.  I was hoping to see Elaine Paige, but got Maureen Moore instead.  However, Maureen had me in the palm of her hand as soon as she took the stage.  -And when I went back to see Ms. Paige, Ms. Paige paled in comparison to Ms. Moore.

RE:  "Longtime Companion" - One of my favorite films too!  -And so much "baggage" - for lack of a better word at this hour of night - attached to it.  And no matter how many times I've seen it, that ending just destroys me.  -Actually, "Longtime Companion" and "Sunday in the Park with George" and "Cinema Paradiso" are my most viewed DVDs... and each of them provides a good cathartic cry at the end.   :'(

RE: "American Idol" recap - As I noted last night, the clips they showed were from the rehearsals and not from the live show - which was most evident in Fantasia's clip of "What Are You Doing the Rest of Your Life" - it was a totally different ending/riff.  My guess is that the showed the clips in the order they rehearsed - and then changed the order of the performances after the rehearsal.

RE: Grits - There are some pretty good grits casserole recipes on epicurious.com (which is Gourmet's and Bon Appetit's website).  I love some really good roasted garlic and cheddar cheese (maybe some asiago cheese too) grits!  -And I like to bake them so they get a little crust on the top!  YUMMERS!!!  And there's also classic New Orleans combo of grits and shrimp (with some tasso ham)!!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 05, 2004, 09:19:37 PM
Boy, that was a long post!!

-I guess I am getting better!! :)
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Post by: Jane on May 05, 2004, 09:29:11 PM
MBarnum 52 is way to young-sorry.

Iím not sure if I will have time to post tomorrow, but will definitely try.  I have much to do before we leave Friday morning.  Penny O is still here, along with her friends, one of whom will stay to take care of Bogie and Echo.

Goodnight.
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Post by: Jane on May 05, 2004, 09:29:55 PM


-I guess I am getting better!! :)

 :) :) :) :) :) and keep doing so!
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 05, 2004, 09:42:43 PM
"Cinema Paradiso" is a favourite in this house too Jose.  I think "The Legend of 1900" needs to be as well known. I still can't understand why it was not successful in the USA. Maybe because it was made in English!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 05, 2004, 10:20:20 PM
DR Tomovoz - Did you really like the full-length director's cut too when it finally came out?  -Of course, maybe it was released in it's full three-hour running time in Oz when it first came out, so...  I cried at the "original" ending, and when I saw the full-length version in the theatre the first time I cried even more.  *And it was finally nice to know where that clip came from that was shown in the closing credits.

-I just put on David Daniels' "A Quiet Thing" CD... Hmm...  I like David Daniels, and the countertenor voice does have its appeal to me, and the selection of songs is for voice and guitar... but the opening song, which is Kander and Ebb's "A Quiet Thing"... Hmm...  Having a countertenor sing one of Liza's songs... Hmm...  -It's a very interesting selection of songs - some traditional classical rep (lute song repertoire - Dowland, Purcell, and Bellini (arranged from the piano settings)) along with some more "recent" repertoire including Bernstein's "So Pretty" and "A Simple Song", Arlen's "My Shining Hour", and Alec Wilder's "Blackberry Winter"... Hmm... I may have to give this disc a spin when I'm more awake... Something tells me the curiosity factor will keep me listening to the whole disc tonight if I keep it in the player... and then it will be REALLY late... and I should be in bed already!  -I have a 1:00 matinee tomorrow/today!!!  Hmmm....

Decisions, decisions....

Well... For now, Goodnight.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hmmm.. "My Shining Hour" is kind of disturbing me... Hmmm...

Well, at least David Daniels is looking quite "Woofy" on the cover and inset photos.

 :-\
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Post by: Jay on May 05, 2004, 10:21:35 PM
It's still Wednesday here so I can still post a question for Dear BK.

Dear BK:  Have you invited your Dear Muse/Editor Margaret to post on this site?  I suspect we all would enjoy her contributions and, I hope, she'd enjoy ours.
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Post by: Jay on May 05, 2004, 10:28:00 PM
Another question:  Why is it that when you're running on schedule and/or there's no particular time you need to be at the destination to which you are headed there's never any traffic, but when you're running late and/or you do need to be someplace by a particular time the freeways are clogged solid and when you resort to surface streets as an alternative every fershlugeneh traffic signal turns red as you approach it?  Why is this, Dear BK?  Why?
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 05, 2004, 10:31:24 PM
Love the Director's cut of CP Jose. Even managed to get Colin to open his wallet and pay for it! I'm the one that buys the DVDs and the Cds in this house.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 10:50:33 PM
It's still Wednesday here so I can still post a question for Dear BK.

Dear BK:  Have you invited your Dear Muse/Editor Margaret to post on this site?  I suspect we all would enjoy her contributions and, I hope, she'd enjoy ours.

My dear Margaret is not a computer person.  I don't know that she's ever even used one.  Her wonderful hubby Richard does read the site, that much I know.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 10:52:47 PM
Another question:  Why is it that when you're running on schedule and/or there's no particular time you need to be at the destination to which you are headed there's never any traffic, but when you're running late and/or you do need to be someplace by a particular time the freeways are clogged solid and when you resort to surface streets as an alternative every fershlugeneh traffic signal turns red as you approach it?  Why is this, Dear BK?  Why?

This is known as the law of If You Are Late There Will Be Traffic, If You Are Not Late There Will Be No Traffic.  I feel this is a law that should be repealed, don't you?  It is one stupid law if you ask me, which you did.
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 10:53:21 PM
And one for Mahler.  

I think I might be hungry.  Haven't eaten since one.
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Post by: Jrand69 on May 05, 2004, 11:12:24 PM
Go eat!

I also enjoy CP.  And DRJOSE Longtime Companion always does the same thing to me.   I keep thinking I won't cry this time....and I am astounded and bewildered that even after all these years, we haven't really gotten a handle let alone a cure for this plague.

.....but I want to be there....
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 11:25:22 PM
Just finished Desk Set - lots to say in notes, which will be up in thirty minutes.  Stick around
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 11:51:26 PM
Fell asleep with my clothes on. Just woke up. Didn't know where I was or what was going on... Very confusing.
But now I know where I am and what's going on. Which puts me ahead of half the people in this town. 8)
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 11:52:30 PM
Guess we won't make Page 9 unless there's a huge five minute posting frenzy. C'est la vie.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 11:54:14 PM
I'm going to brush my teeth and get ready for bed. Will check in before I tuck myself in.
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Post by: Panni on May 05, 2004, 11:55:16 PM
Hope you had a great birthday, George!
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Post by: bk on May 05, 2004, 11:56:27 PM
New notes momentarily.