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Title: BK PAN
Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 12:01:15 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you won't grow up, you won't go to school, so you may as well just hunker down and post until the cows come home.  So, if BK stays in bed today does that make him a bed Pan?
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 11, 2004, 12:16:25 AM
Guess you need to be non-north American to be annoyed by the fact that the only child in the movie with an American accent is Peter Pan. It jars. I can not cope with the Mary Martin production of Peter Pan at all. Love the only bit (Tony Awards) I have seen of the Duncan version and like the Rigby version. The Spielberg take is just too too much! Maybe it's all because I grew up with the Disney version. I know Peter (Bobby) had an American accent in that but so did the other children. To me it is like giving Christopher Robin an American accent or Tom Sawyer a British one.
As mentioned a few times over the past years, my favourite PP performance was by Maggie Smith.
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Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 03:35:33 AM
Up at 3:30 AM. Creatures romping around outside the windows. It would be sooooo lovely to get a night's sleep once in a while. Oh well.
The upside is that now I've caught up with the posts, read the notes. I'd do some writing or book reading -- but my eyes still think I'm asleep. Perhaps I'll give sleeping another shot. Or invite the creatures in for tea and crumptets. Darn - all out of crumpets! Scrub that plan.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: elmore3003 on May 11, 2004, 04:49:18 AM
Good morning, all!  Where were all the usual suspects at Chat last night?  DRs Noel, Robin, Laura and Emily, with the late addition of our host BK, seemed to be it.  ROBIN, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!

I vaguely recall A WRINKLE IN TIME, but since I have no memory of anything about it, it clearly left no impression, so I didn't care about the broadcast last night.  I remember reading THE WIZARD OF OZ long before seeing the film, and being so enchanted with it that I reread it several times.  I also never liked the Narnia series; it's dubious charms escaped me.

TOD:  my first fairy tale/fantasy memories are the Disney films, SNOW WHITE, (shwing around 1950-51?), ALICE IN WONDERLAND, CINDERELLA, and PETER PAN, and my first books were Little Golden Books of the films.  I recall a short chunky book of CINDERELLA that I loved, with text on one side and a black & white drawing on the other.  1954 was the PETER PAN broadcast with Mary Martin, and I've always preferred that to Duncan's and Rigby's versions, not that the ladies didn't have good moments, but that Jerome Robbins' concept was very special (the Indian dances based on children's games for example) and no later director has come up to Robbins' level.  I'd like to see the play performed, once, with a few songs, the mermaids, and more James M. Barrie.

I was also fond of the 1954 animated HANSEL AND GRETEL, the soundtrack of which drove my mother to major despair; I remember it played a double bill with a Ma & Pa Kettle movie, which will attract the attention here of DR MBarnum, but I've no memory of the Kettles now, except for THE EGG AND I, both book and film.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 11, 2004, 05:08:03 AM
H A P P I E S T   O F   B I R T H D A Y S   D R   R O B I N ! ! ! ! ! !
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Tomovoz on May 11, 2004, 05:45:37 AM
Happy Birthday DR Robin. (His friends were more than fond of..)
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Post by: Ben on May 11, 2004, 05:58:42 AM
Happy Birthday to Robin!!!
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Post by: William E. Lurie on May 11, 2004, 06:37:09 AM
I remember a television version of JACK AND THE BEANSTALK with Gene Kelly and a very young Joel Grey; also THE PIED PIPER with Van Johnson and Kay Starr.  These were for the whole family.  Today anything like this is aimed strictly for children and not as entertaining or memorable.

***

The Charles Strouse concert last night was a delight.  Much of the cast was the usual people you find at this type of  concert (Jerry Dixon, Norah Mae Ling, Rachel York, Eddie Kobich, etc.) but there were also original cast performances by Penny Fuller from APPLAUSE and Anita Gillette from ALL AMERICAN, and Mr. Strouse did a couple of numbers including what is probably his most famous song: "Those Were The Days" from the television series "All In the Family".

What impressed me most about this program, however, was the fact that it was not a "greatest hits" selection.  Although there were some of his better known songs, there were also 5 songs from DANCE A LITTLE CLOSER, 3 songs each from ANNIE WARBUCKS and RAGS and 2 songs from NICK AND NORA that showed off his versitility. Whatever problems these shows hade it certainly was not Strouce's music.

All in all an entertaining evening, though I wish these various concert series were spread out through the year instead of all in April and May.
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Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 06:42:46 AM

               HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DR ROBIN!

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Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jenny on May 11, 2004, 07:12:34 AM
Am I here?  Can I post?  Oh boy, this is very exciting!  My home computer is still infested with naked Russian children (it looks like we'll be getting a new one soon, though), but all is well for I have found a way to access HHW from school!

But they're throwing me out of the computer lab.

Happy birthday, Robin!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 11, 2004, 07:16:34 AM
Good Morning!

Well, my own "(not so) evil eye" knocked on my door about 30 minutes ago... and she said she'd come back... so...  It is nice to be up before 11:00, however.  I may go for a walk before it gets too hot and too humid outside.

As for fairy tales... Most of mine were through the eyes of Disney, so... Alice in Wonderland, Cinderella, Peter Pan, etc.  Books-wise, I, too, had a bunch of those chunky Golden Books, however, the one book I remember - and one that I tried to save from the garbage heap for the longest time - was a collection of Mother Goose ryhmes.  Loved the pictures.

Oh, and the Winnie the Pooh movies were also a favorite... and became even closer to my heart when I was old enough to read and appreciate the original A.A. Milne books.  -I even "invested" in a nice set of hardcovers of the whole series a few years ago.  -And, of course, I also like those "Tao of Pooh" and "Te of Piglet" books.

-And my roommate has a collection of Winnie the Pooh books (the Disney versions) in various languages.  Lots of fun.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 11, 2004, 07:17:53 AM
Happy Birthday, DR Robin!!

We want a full cake report later on!!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 11, 2004, 07:18:57 AM
OK - Now I have to ask...

Is everyone at the Preview Day Sale for the big One Day Sale in Tarnation?
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 07:21:40 AM
You know I just can't think of my favorite fairy tales. I recall one book I had that had many stories in it and one story was about 5 Chinese brothers. I loved the story, but remember little about it.

The story of Bambi was always a favorite also...movie and book.

Does THE COLOR KITTENS count? LOL!
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 07:23:32 AM
And a gigantic happy birthday to DR Robin!! Pop in some good DVDs and enjoy!!

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Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 07:23:56 AM

Happy Birthday DR Robin!


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Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 07:26:05 AM
Hi DR Jenny!

Glad to see you found a way to log on!
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Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 07:28:41 AM
Regarding last nights discussion of a NW HHW get together, September would be great with me too! Let us consult with DR Jane upon her return to Oregon!
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Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 07:31:37 AM
DR Jennifer, did you watch the Survivor reunion show after the regular show? My there are some rather poor sports! Some mighty hurt feelers! And some big ole cry-babies! LOL!

I think that Lex and Tom and Jerri just need to lighten up!

I am glad that Amber and Rob are still together and also Jenna and Ethan..they make a cute couple.

I think Richard Hatch has the right attitude...it is just a game, for crying out loud! Have fun and play!
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 07:41:33 AM
Yes of course I watched the live reunion show. :)

I am so not impressed with Lex.  During the show he masterminded voting out his close friends, Colby, Ethan and Jerri.  Yet he still holds a huge grudge against Boston Rob for voting him out.

He seems like such a hypocrite to me.

I do get that you might expect your close friends to work with you (apparently Lex and Rob WERE very good friends before All Stars).  

I guess I just don't get why it was okay for Lex to turn on his good friend (especially Ethan).  But it was scandalous for Rob to vote Lex out.

Btw, I REALLY think Rob Mariano deserved to win the $$.  And I voted for him to win the million on Thursday night at http://www.cbs.com.  Vote Rob! :)
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Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 07:45:59 AM
And DR MBarnum: I do think Rob and Amber make a really cute couple.  And I like Ethan (Survivor Africa winner) very much.  I am not crazy about Jenna M.  I thought she was one of the worst winners EVER.  But I did feel very sad when she left All Stars.

Btw, I wonder if Rupert will win the million on Thursday (viewers get to decide the most deserving winner of Survivor All Stars).  I still think Rob M deserved to win the game.  But I think Rupert is probably the fan favorite (and I suppose since he placed 4th, one could say he did deserve to win).
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 11, 2004, 07:47:27 AM
RE: Survivor--did Sue Hawk show up on the reunion show sporting her new look?  I'm not one for big make-overs that include drastic plastic surgery, but whoever got their hands on Sue are miracle workers--she is now one hot chick!  When I saw her on Access Hollywood I couldn't believe it was her until she opened her mouth.  She had this huge smile on her face that wouldn't quit.  Good for her, I say.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: HollyLynn on May 11, 2004, 07:49:39 AM
Happy Birthday Robin!

I don't know if The Wizzard of OZ qualifies as a fairy tale, but my friend has a complete set of the orignal OZ books (from 1900 on up).  I read the entire series a couple of years ago.  The artwork is incredible and stories are wonderful.  



Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 11, 2004, 07:49:45 AM
You know I just can't think of my favorite fairy tales. I recall one book I had that had many stories in it and one story was about 5 Chinese brothers. I loved the story, but remember little about it.

The story of Bambi was always a favorite also...movie and book.

Does THE COLOR KITTENS count? LOL!

Oooh.... I remember "The Five Chinese Brothers"!  Great story!  -Each of the boys has a special power... One gets in trouble, then one by one each brother takes the place of the previous one in a series of test... if I remember correctly... And since they're all "twins" - well, "quints"...  -It was also "updated" a couple of years ago by another writer as "The Seven Chinese Brothers".

Oh, and then there was also "Tikki Tikki Tembo" (No Sarembo Charri Barri Ruchi Pip Perri Pembo)... Or something like that - that's always stuck with me.   -All about the pitfalls of giving your childs too many names.  ;)
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Post by: Matt H. on May 11, 2004, 07:49:49 AM
Happy Birthday, DR Robin!

PETER PAN was always my favorite growing up, and I loved the Disney version and the Mary Martin version equally. Just magical, both of them.

I was firmly convinced as a child that one day, some scientist would invent a pill that would allow people to fly like Peter Pan and Superman. I spent many, many hours during my youth dreaming of the day I would be able to fly, and I spent lots of time imagining what kind of outfit I'd wear while flying. Oh, yes, I was gay, even as a wee youth.

I'm still waiting for that flying pill, you guys!
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Post by: Matt H. on May 11, 2004, 07:53:17 AM
After I saw Spielberg's HOOK, I was determined I would never, ever watch another live action movie version of Peter Pan. That soured me on the mythology forever. (Rigby's version of PAN was an exception; I'll still watch the stage versions based on the play or musical.)
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on May 11, 2004, 08:09:54 AM
Happy, Happy Birthday, Dear Reader Robin!! I hope you have fun all day long and eat mucho cake!!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on May 11, 2004, 08:11:13 AM
I mostly saw Disney fairy tales.  I never saw Peter Pan until I had kids.

The scariest movie I've seen is "Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory." All those children disappearing. Frightening!
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Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 08:13:49 AM
DR Jennifer, I voted for Rupert to win the 2nd million. I honestly feel Rupert played the best game, but I do think Rob should have won over Amber.

DR Dan-The-Man, yes Sue H. sported her new look, and she did look nice! Now if she could just take some etiquette lessons! LOL!

I must say that Shii-Ann cleans up very well. She really is a beautiful lady, and the other Jenna looked amazing too!

I must remember to watch on Thursday to see who wins the second million!!! Don't let me forget Jennifer!
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 11, 2004, 08:22:12 AM
DR Panni,

Hope you managed a good night's sleep.

BTW, I sent you an e-mail (not important) yesterday - and it just bounced back to me.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 11, 2004, 08:24:23 AM
And for the ToD,

Rumpelstiltskin was (and remains) my favorite fairy tale.
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Post by: TCB on May 11, 2004, 08:29:58 AM
I was surfing through the channels this weekend and I came to one of those
Access Entertainment or Hollywood Extra shows that seem to be everywhere these days.  They were interviewing Brad Pitt as part of his press junket for TROY.  I could not believe the questions they were asking him.  Boxers or briefs?  Pajamas or birthday suit?  What kind of stupid questions are these to be asking an artist?  Granted Mr. Pitt will never be confused with Dustin Hoffman, or Jeremy Irons, or even Nick Cage, but could we not try and pretend that people go to his movies because of what he brings to the screen as an actor, rather than because some people look at him like some kind of beefcake?  I know these kinds of interviews go on all the time, and I am sure that I am not telling anyone anything new about the state of our society, but I honestly just sat there stunned that this crap was being shown on national television.  <END OF RANT>
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 11, 2004, 08:45:25 AM
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I was surfing through the channels this weekend and I came to one of those
Access Entertainment or Hollywood Extra shows that seem to be everywhere these days.  They were interviewing Brad Pitt as part of his press junket for TROY.  I could not believe the questions they were asking him.  Boxers or briefs?  Pajamas or birthday suit?  What kind of stupid questions are these to be asking an artist?  Granted Mr. Pitt will never be confused with Dustin Hoffman, or Jeremy Irons, or even Nick Cage, but could we not try and pretend that people go to his movies because of what he brings to the screen as an actor, rather than because some people look at him like some kind of beefcake?  I know these kinds of interviews go on all the time, and I am sure that I am not telling anyone anything new about the state of our society, but I honestly just sat there stunned that this crap was being shown on national television.  <END OF RANT>

Well, the thing is, I think Brad Pitt invites these kinds of questions, himself.  If he wants to be taken seriously as an actor and not be asked what kind of underwear he sports, why does he do things like pose half naked in Vanity Fair without the least bit of irony?  I'm not saying that an actor can't or shouldn't be sexy, but they shouldn't be surprised that they are regarded as himbos/bimbos when they primarily present themselves as such.

Besides, I think the world is a much better place now that I know that Brad Pitt sleeps in the nude.
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on May 11, 2004, 08:50:33 AM
TCB: The "How important..." questions annoy me.  Like asking the paramedics: "How important is it for people to have fences around their pools?" Or asking a doctor: "How important is it for people to watch their cholesterol?" That just wastes air time, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 08:54:17 AM
I am up but not yet at 'em.
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Post by: Robin on May 11, 2004, 08:55:12 AM
Thank you, everyone, for the Birthday greetings!

I've taken the day off in celebration, and have been watching TCM's mini-Miss Marple marathon.  I share my Birthday with Margaret Rutherford, it seems.  

Later on, I'm going to pop in the deeveedees of Around the World in 80 Days and Prince Valiant, both of which I've never seen.  I'm very fond of the score CDs to both movies (by Victor Young and Franz Waxman, respectively), and I'm curious to see how the music and the images "fit".  

I often buy score CDs without seeing the films the music is written for.  Sometimes, it's really the only way to go.  I love, for example, Jerry Goldsmith's score for Poltergeist II and  Supergirl, but the movies themselves are poo.  
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Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 09:01:49 AM
As bad as it is, I do enjoy Supergirl because I like Helen Slater, who looks good in the outfit.   The two Poltergeist sequels are the worst.
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Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 09:18:06 AM
Dan-in-TO - Do try sending the email again. I think I emailed you a while back and didn't receive a response. - So who knows what's happening in cyberspace between TO and LA?
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Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 09:18:59 AM
I will also be watching Miss Marple in MURDER AT THE GALLUP, which is, I think, the only one in the series I have not seen yet.
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Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 09:27:11 AM
Can't remember having favorite fairy tales as a kid. I had beautiful books of fairy tales in Hungary which were left behind. My favorite "story" book was a book of opera stories (many of which were fairy tale-ish -- The Magic Flute, Coppelia, Tales of Hoffmann, etc.). I got that for my 7th birthday and brought it across the border with me. Still have it.
I like the Disney movie of Peter Pan. My favorite ride at Disneyland is the Peter Pan ride. I still get choked up when you fly out the window over London - it's absolutely magical.
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Post by: Emily on May 11, 2004, 09:28:12 AM
Happy Birthday Robin!!! :D
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Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 09:30:07 AM
DR MBarnum: Don't forget to watch Thursday night! :)

DR Dan: Yeah Sue was at the reunion show.  But she didn't look that different to me (am I crazy?).  To me for them to call it an "extreme make-over" I should notice big differences.  And while she looked good, I totally recognized her!
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Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 09:33:55 AM
Oh and DR MBarnum: Do you really think Rupert was the best All Stars player?  He did work hard.  And he didn't manipulate people like Rob did.  But Boston Rob won almost every competition (and seeing how strong Rupert is, you would think Rupert would have won more).  And Boston Rob, managed to orchestrate every vote out.  To me he controlled the entire game and is most deserving to win.

I really hope that they tell us who places 2nd and 3rd.  I am very curious.  Also, since people can vote as many times as they want, who knows what the results will be.
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Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 09:38:11 AM
Well, I guess it is sort of a toss up for me with Rupert and Rob. I think I just happened to like Rupert better then Rob. But I do agree that Rob, obviously, played a very good game. I do think his not hiding his alliance with Amber was not a good move...although it didn't end up hurting him simply because the others were too "not smart" enough to get rid of him or Amber! That part I will just never understand.
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Post by: TCB on May 11, 2004, 09:38:47 AM
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Post by: JMK on May 11, 2004, 09:58:49 AM
Happy Birthday, Robin.

Is the NW HHW get together still at my house?  :)  (We do have 2/3 of an acre, so there's plenty of room in the backyard for camping out).

Interesting CASTRECL message about the label that will not be named.

And for those eBay junkies who may care to take a peek, it looks like a certain underappreciated off-Broadway composer shared a certain obsession with JR and me--there's a very interesting piece of memorabilia online now that I predict will go for over $1,000.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on May 11, 2004, 10:04:08 AM
When will this maddness stop? A new "reality" show starts next week to find the worst singer, only the singers don't know they are looking for the worst and to keep the audience from laughing they were told that the contestants were clients of the Make-A-Wish foundation.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 11, 2004, 10:06:25 AM
DR Panni, I resent the e-mail. (Make that: I re-sent the e-mail.)

JMK - any clues about the eBay item?

The TV repairman is here. Actually, the TV was fixed and I wrote him a check half an hour ago. But he's been watching something ever since. I don't know if he's hooked on the program, or checking to make sure the SONY's in good working order. I suspect the former. I really would like to go out soon, but I can't kick the guy out. (I just peeked in. He's laughing at whatever it is he's watching.)
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Post by: JMK on May 11, 2004, 10:08:54 AM

JMK - any clues about the eBay item?


Ummmm....."happiness is a warm Frances Farmer autograph"?
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 11, 2004, 10:10:23 AM
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Growing up, what were your favorite fairy tales – book, and also film and TV versions? Which ones made you laugh, which scared you, which moved you?

For some reason, the story of Hansel and Gretle held a fascination for me when I was a child.  I had several different books of the story and each one interested me in its own way.  One in particular I liked was set in modern day, with Hansel and Gretle looking very much like Dick and Jane.  And the witch was not scary or horrible looking but dressed sort of dowdy with a slight frown on her otherwise attractive face.  I remember reading that one and thinking, "Wow--this kind of stuff still happens" and making the conscious decision to never enter a stranger's house without someone from my family.  Children will listen (or in this case, read.)

Mary Martin's Peter Pan played a big part in our house, too.  Its effect would last a few weeks, with me and my sister playing out the part where we learn how to fly by jumping on all the furniture in the house.  My dad's flashlight made a pretty good Tinkerbell, too.

Movie-wise, my parents carted my sisters and me to all the Disney animated movies, but I didn't take much to them then because I thought they were mostly stories for girls.  Consequently, I did like Peter Pan.  But I absolutely loved Pinocchio.  This was the one movie that I was able to make my parents take me to twice.  It appealed to me on so many levels.  Aside from the wonderful character designs, lush animation and catchy songs, it seemed to me that Pinocchio had an ideal philosophy--that one should try to be good and do good, but one also has the freedom to knowingly make wrong choices and be bad, which wasn't a bad thing to do every once in a while as long as one atones for it afterwards.  For me, this was just the kind of confirmation I needed for my own ideas of personal behavior which were starting to widely diverge from the goody-two-shoes lessons I had to endure at my Catholic grammar school.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 11, 2004, 10:19:28 AM
Repairman update. Archie has joined him. They're both watching a Charmin commercial.
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Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 10:33:32 AM
Dan, I have no email from you. Are you sending to the right address?
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Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 10:43:19 AM
Panni, I just saw that your friend Doris Dowling's movie ALINA is being released on DVD this August.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 11, 2004, 10:50:36 AM
DR Panni

The address I have is the same as the one that appears with your name in the members' list. I'm not trying to send you anything important, but perhaps you can try sending me something - and I'll reply.
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Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 10:52:07 AM
Such e-mail intrigues here at HHW.  I like any fairy tales where the villains get their comeuppance.
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Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 10:54:13 AM
My computer is so weird sometimes.  I'm typing away and then it disappears - I'm obviously pushing two buttons at once accidentally, but I can't figure out which - I'm nowhere near the delete or backspace buttons so I'm at a loss.

Welcome ten GUESTS.  Finding what you're looking for?

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Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 10:58:10 AM
Do the Raggedy Ann and Andy stories count as fairy tales? I loved those as a kid (very positive and uplifting stories) and I have picked up several of the books(which are reproductions of the original books from the early 1910s...beautiful illustrations) for my grandneice...along with her own Raggedy Ann and Andy dolls. Will give them to her in another year or so when she is old enough to enjoy them more (she is only 2 now).
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 11, 2004, 10:58:51 AM
The raccoons have been stealing der Brucer's bird feeder apparatuses...apparatti?  Whatever, they's busted.
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Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 11:00:30 AM
JMK, sent you a PM.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 11, 2004, 11:01:45 AM
The Wizard of Oz books certainly count as American fairy tales.  I can clearly remember my mother holding my sister and myself in her lap (or, really, one on each side) while reading the books to us.  And the color of the page changed as the book progressed from one part of Oz to the next.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 11, 2004, 11:02:18 AM
Good Afternoon!

-Well, I need to remember that when I hit the "Backspace" key, that depending upon where my cursor is currently, it will either "backspace" or it will go back to the web page I was previously viewing.... grrr...

So, as I was saying...

Once housekeeping came back, I decided to take a walk around the neighborhood.  I basically grew up in Arlington, and even though a lot of it has changed - lots being built up (and torn down) - there's still a lot of it that has not changed.  So, as I walked around, I decided to check out a few store fronts that I've always seen (since my childhood), but have never stepped foot in.

My first stop was "Indian Spices and Appliances".  Yes, that is the name of the store.  And guess what's inside?  Huh?  Can you guess?  Well, the first floor has "Indian Spices" and the second floor has "Appliances".  I've seen write ups in various local magazines over the years, but now that I've seen it...  I didn't spend much time looking at the appliances - although there seemed to be some great deals on the scratch and dent items - but the first floor held much more than spices.  Lentils, breads, bottles of rose water... oh, and spices, of course.  There was also a nice freezer case, and a selection of prepared foods.  I'll need to head back there and pick up some samosas and some carrot halwah.  -I love those Indian sweets.  But it was nice finally going in there and seeing what all the fuss was about... and, heck, it's been in business at least 20 years, so it must be doing something right.

Next came the old Dunkin' Donuts which is now a great little Mexican place.  -I ended up stopping by there on the way back and picked up some lunch.  And they had pupusas too!  YUMMY!!  -And it's also true Mexican, not Tex-Mex, so that was another plus in my book.

I also made a stop into an English store.  The main thing you see on the sign outside is "Cigars" - there's even a cigar store Indian outside.  But underneath "Cigars", I noticed that "Munchies and Sweets" was also listed in smaller print.  Well, as soon as I walked in the door - and the place really is not that big - I noticed their very nice selection of English chocolates (Cadbury, Galaxy, Aeros, etc.)  They also had a nice selection of "crisps" (potato chips) in various flavors, lots of canned and bottled items, and a freezer case with frozen meat pies and pork "bangers".  Again, I'll have to stop back by there - I just didn't want to "risk" buying chocolate since it's so hot outside and I was walking.  -And the staff of three seemed more than happy that I was just browsing right now - of course, I was also smiling from ear to ear as I was looking at the various chocolate bars.  ;)

After stopping at Whole Foods to pick up a smoothie at Jamba Juice (I just need to remember to always get the small size!), I headed back to the apartment walking on the opposite side of the street.  I ended walking all the way down to Clarendon - about two subway stops away - and my walk back took me through "Little Vietnam" - lots of quirky little shops and restaurants.

And I made it back to my freshly cleaned apartment in time for "The Young & The Restless"!  Cameron is ALIVE?!?!?!?   :o ??? ::) :P

-And my two soft chickend tacos were quite good - and generously filled -and the pork and cheese pupusa was very good too!  -And only about $5.00 for all of that plus chips and guac!!  (And, yes, I know pupusas are more Argentinian, but, hey they're made with masa, so...)

DR D-in-T - I know most repairman charge for a minimum amount of time - usually an hour - regardless of how much they actually end up spending on he repair.  Could he just be "using" all his time?  -Is he at least nice to look at?  ;)

RE: Survivor - I didn't - wasn't able to - see any of this round of Survivor, so... But I'd like to see Colby get the $1 million - mainly since he did basically give it to Teena in their round.  -And he's just soo darned cute.   ;)

OK - that's enough mid-day rambling from me for now...

Laters...
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jrand69 on May 11, 2004, 11:03:30 AM
Happy Birthday DRROBIN.  

I'm thinking, I'm thinking.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 11:03:53 AM
Fifteen USERS - that's what I call ballin' the jack.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: TCB on May 11, 2004, 11:04:11 AM
Favorite fairy tale for me was probably PETER PAN.  I remember seeing the Disney version when I was a child, but it didn't have nearly the impact on me as the Mary Martin production.  As a child, just getting started as an actor, I found the whole show magical.  I wanted, so much, to play Michael or John, or one of The Lost Boys.  I can certainly understand that for those who did not experience Martin's Peter Pan back in those more innocent days in the 50s, the whole production probably looks corny and even amateurish.  But, as a boy of five, for whom television itself was still brand-new and enchanting; seeing Peter and the children flying out the window for Never Land to the tune of I’m Flying” was then, and remains today, one of the most memorable experiences of my childhood.  Many years later, I recaptured that very same feeling of wonder each and every time I saw Sandy Duncan do the show on Broadway; and later, to a lesser extent, with Cathy Rigby.  
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 11:07:09 AM
I have vague recollections of, I think, the Sandy Duncan PETER PAN playing on tv when I was a very small child. Also, a live action version of CINDERELLA starring???...I can't remember now. It was from the 1960s, I believe, but still played on national television as a special in the late 60s or very, very early 70s.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: S. Woody White on May 11, 2004, 11:08:40 AM
Is anyone out there familiar with the books by Edward Eager?  I'm particularly fond of the first four that he wrote (Half Magic, Knight's Castle, Magic by the Lake, and The Time Garden).  The way he linked those four books together was particularly neat.

I still find myself reading "children's literature" from time to time, on the pretext of checking the books before passing them on to the grandlads.  Like anyone believes that story.

Favorite Disney animated fairy tale from my childhood?  Sleeping Beauty.  For one thing, the prince actually had a name (Phillip), and played an active role in the story.  And Maleficent looks and acts like my sister.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 11:09:07 AM
Sandy Duncan's Peter Pan (wonderful show) has never aired or been taped for TV, nor was it recorded.  There are bootleg (BAD bootleg) videos floating around, and one number (I'm Flying) was done on the Tonys.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 11:10:04 AM
DR Dan IT:  What kind of tv repairman did you hire?  That cracks me up that he is watching tv.  Isn't he in a rush to get somewhere else?
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 11:10:19 AM
Fifteen USERS - that's what I call ballin' the jack.

Who's this Jack?

Dan - I sent you an email. I had trouble getting email to Anna Porter at Key Porter in TO last week - you'd think they wouldn't have problems. Maybe it's between here and TO - a HUGE cyber glitch.
Let me know if you got it.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 11:14:24 AM
Such intrigue between Canada and the US.  Do you realize that if everyone perusing the board made fifty posts in the next three minutes we'd shatter all previously known records?
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 11:14:37 AM
And that's a lot of records.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 11:14:52 AM
I'd rather shatter some CDs or laserdiscs.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: S. Woody White on May 11, 2004, 11:15:01 AM
DR Robin stands before a group of people.  He clears his throat and says:
My name is Robin, and I'm...um...I'm a birthday boy.
To which all the other birthday boys and girls reply:
Hi, Robin.

Remember, sometimes admitting you have a birthday is the hardest step to take.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 11:15:52 AM
The end of my block is all marked off for some kind of film shoot tomorrow. (Including the Gidget/MM & Joe house). The Wonderdog is not going to like this. It's his walking route to the park.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: TCB on May 11, 2004, 11:19:04 AM
I hope, DR MBarnum, you aren't confusing Sandy Duncan's wonderful PETER PAN with that awful Mia Farrow production?
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 11:20:02 AM
bk --- FYI- Dan-in-TO and I are planning a hostile takeover of the site - naw, let's think big - the WORLD. The planet will no longer be called "Earth" - a pretty unimaginative name, IMHO - but will be know as DANNA.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 11:20:07 AM
DR Jose: We're one day ahead here on Y&R.  I am so confused about that Cameron storyline.  Some are saying he has a twin brother (not sure which one is dead).

And as for Colby, he has always been my favorite.  LOVED him in Australia.  But I won't vote for him here.  They said to vote for who deserved to win All Stars.  Not who our favorite is, or we think is the cutest (although I think Rob Mariano is cute too).  Should be interesting.  
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 11:35:00 AM
Hmm, I don't know which Peter Pan it was that I saw then. Could it have been the Mary Martin one? It would have been around 1968 or 69 or 70 when I saw it, but it was likely older then that.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 11:39:00 AM
Well, Sandy didn't do it until 1978 or so, so it definitely wasn't her.  It was either the Martin or the Farrow.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Charles Pogue on May 11, 2004, 11:43:48 AM
I think the term fairy tale (or faery tale, as I prefer) is being a bit liberally exercised here.  I don't consider either PETER PAN nor WIZARD OF OZ faery tales...Faery tales are usually oral stories that  have been told and handed down through generations and have variations.  

I've never been one much for faery tales myself, though The Lovely Wife collects them and has many of the Lang compliations and other goodies.

If I apply the liberal definition being used here to faery tale, then my fav is definitely THE PRINCESS BRIDE, S. Morgenstern's Classic Tale of True Love and High Adventure, the 'good parts' version, Abridged by William Goldman.

BK, was my pal Jason Isaacs any good as Captain Hook?...It is a role I think he may have been born to play...

Well, what a delight.  Script is in.  Car is in the shop.  Got plenty of nice sleep.  Woke with Blind Culley snoozing beside me with his head on my arm.  Now I 've "nothing to do but relax..." (A Lorenz Hart reference)...guess I'll finish the last hundred pages of BK's latest opus, tinker with some of my own scribblings, maybe watch a movie.

I'm not watching AI tonight...I have no interest whatsoever in the show anymore, I'm happy to say...one less thing to deal with...

Nothing to do but relax,
'Neath the eucalyptus tree,
Flat on our beautiful backs,
Healthy and dumb,
Warm days are nice enough,
Summer has come.
And we'll bring ice enough,
For our rum.

Nothing to do but make love,
Two demented butterflies,
Time with a flutter flies
While the bees make wax
And we have nothing to do but relax.

Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 11:46:49 AM
Jason was fine, but he had no help from the director.  One wants a larger-than-life Captain Hook and we certainly don't get it in this film.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 11, 2004, 11:48:53 AM
DR Jose: We're one day ahead here on Y&R.  I am so confused about that Cameron storyline.  Some are saying he has a twin brother (not sure which one is dead).


-Or maybe it was so cold that night that Sharon hit him on the head...  His body ended up being cryogenically frozen... and the water - and rats(!) - in the sewer brought his body temp back up so gradually.... Or maybe Sharon ended up killing the twin(!) who had wanted to surprise Cameron at the party that night...  Or maybe the whole current Newman family story-line(s) is just one big dream that Cassie is having from her time in the hospital after falling through the ice!

-Yes, yes, yes... I know we're "losing" some of you out there... but the possibities are endless... and ridiculous... and could very well "come to life" on the small screen!
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: elmore3003 on May 11, 2004, 11:54:22 AM
I have vague recollections of, I think, the Sandy Duncan PETER PAN playing on tv when I was a very small child. Also, a live action version of CINDERELLA starring???...I can't remember now. It was from the 1960s, I believe, but still played on national television as a special in the late 60s or very, very early 70s.

DR MBarnum, I believe you're thinking of the PETER PAN with Danny Kaye and Mia Farrow(?).  The CINDERELLA is most likely the Leslie Ann Warren-Ginger Rogers production, which I always felt lacked the charm of the Julie Andrews version.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 11, 2004, 12:16:59 PM
OK - So Coke and Pepsi are coming out with "low carb" versions of their respective sodas...  Are they just re-packaging and re-labeling their existing Diet sodas?!?!?!?

It's the same thing with Russell Stover's Low-Carb line... If you read the labels carefully, they are essentially the same as their Sugar-Free line... Only they cost a little more!?!?!?

-Oh, and my favorite ad on the Metro (subway) from last week...
The Picture: A vase of flowers.
The Caption:  There is an 8th Deadly Sin: Forgetting.  Happy Mother's Day!
(The Company: Teleflora)

:)

-Just some random thoughts... I think I need a nap now...
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 12:20:10 PM
Wow, it's finally getting warmer out again. Yeah!
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 12:23:52 PM
DR Jose: I can make no sense of the Cameron thingie.  He seemingly has no clue what Sharon is talking about.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 12:25:50 PM
Where did everybody go?
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 12:27:14 PM
DR JMK can you give a link to your ebay item.  I am so clueless. :(
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 11, 2004, 12:42:43 PM
DR Panni,

I've heard that AOL identifies certain senders as SPAM. I'm going to try sending you that not-terribly-important e-mail, this time using a different e-mail account. Such intrigue.

And the repairman finally left. He did not charge by the hour, and it appears he fixed the television.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 12:46:46 PM
Speaking of spam, I've been having a problem with my yahoo account.  Sometimes I like to send emails (sometimes advertisements) from my regular account to my yahoo account.  But yahoo reads it as spam.

Does anyone know if there is a way to set certain addresses as NOT SPAM (my address is in my yahoo address book, and that doesn't seem to help).

Thanks.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 12:53:22 PM



Page Four Dance!!!

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Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 01:04:37 PM
Yes, AOL arbitrarily "blocks" certain senders.  The most frequent cause is if your e-mail address has been "used" by spammers.  AOL is being sued by two very large hosting companies for the "blocking" - they need to find a way to ONLY block real spammers, not people or institutions whose e-mail address has been "gathered" by these evil cretins.  It happened here, even though bruce@haineshisway.com isn't even a real e-mail address.  Our host had to call them to get it unblocked and it still isn't completely forwarding mail correctly.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Matt H. on May 11, 2004, 01:15:01 PM
Elmore wrote: "DR MBarnum, I believe you're thinking of the PETER PAN with Danny Kaye and Mia Farrow(?).  The CINDERELLA is most likely the Leslie Ann Warren-Ginger Rogers production, which I always felt lacked the charm of the Julie Andrews version."


He could have seen the Mary Martin version. It was off the air for a good number of years, but NBC aired it a couple of times in the late 60s, early 70s before losing the rights to it. And once the rights were regained and they aired it one final time before the videotape was released (and later a laserdisc and DVD), I had a VCR then and recorded it myself. The Mia Farrow/Danny Kaye version did not use the Broadway score.

I agree that the Julie Andrews version of CINDERELLA is probably more charming overall than the Lesley Ann Warren version, but I find it hard to make a choice. I like Stuart Damon much more than Jon Cypher (Stuart gets the wonderful "Loneliness of Evening" as a solo), and I like Celeste Holm more than Edie Adams as the fairy godmother. Because it wasn't done live and they had more room to spread out the production, the 1965 version does have its own charms and appeal, for me at any rate.

Both sets of singers do right by the fantastic score, one of the best ever composed for a television production.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 01:15:36 PM
I finally got Dan-in-TO's email. World domination is but days away.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Matt H. on May 11, 2004, 01:21:38 PM
I probably shouldn't comment since I didn't watch a minute of SURVIVOR: ALL STARS, but since the contestants who hadn't won before made a pact to eliminate the previous winners as soon as possible, I felt the deck was stacked against certain excellent players from the get-go. In fact, as appealing as the idea of an all-star edition sounded when I first heard it, I think Mark Burnett erred horribly by having past winners back on the show. Of course, they were all stars, too, but NO ONE on the jury would have voted them ANOTHER million dollars when they had won before if they had managed to get to the end. He should have realized that. For me, that made the victory of Amber tainted and made the show less compelling than it might have been.

Perhaps if he had waited to do this edition when he had sixteen winners to play against each other, it might have leveled the playing field, but CBS needed a big gimmick to throw against NBC's final season of FRIENDS, and it certainly seemed to work. Ratings for the all star edition were better than for the past three or four editions of the show.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: William E. Lurie on May 11, 2004, 01:40:32 PM
It's been mentioned on this here site before, but in case anyone missed it --- and considering it is one of the topics du jour --- PBS will be showing the original Julie Andrews/Rodgers & Hammerstein "Cinderella" sometime in the fall and then releasing it on DVD.  Last I heard they were trying to find a color print, but it will probbly be in b&w.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 01:58:47 PM
Excuse me, but might I ask where in tarnation IS everyone?  Sad to be all alone in the world.  SHAME.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Matt H. on May 11, 2004, 02:16:41 PM
Yes, I'm looking forward to seeing CINDERELLA again. I've seen it several times at the Museum of TV & Radio, but to finally have a pristine copy will be nirvana. Color would be nice, but black and white will do just fine.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Matt H. on May 11, 2004, 02:18:48 PM
My Marx Bros. boxed set FINALLY came today, and now my problem is trying to decide which one I want to watch first. I'm leaning toward GO WEST but it may be A DAY AT THE RACES. I do love "All God's Chil'in Got Rhythm" in RACES.

I got THE JETSONS today, too. That's going to bring back MANY childhood memories.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: elmore3003 on May 11, 2004, 02:29:38 PM

He could have seen the Mary Martin version. It was off the air for a good number of years, but NBC aired it a couple of times in the late 60s, early 70s before losing the rights to it. And once the rights were regained and they aired it one final time before the videotape was released (and later a laserdisc and DVD), I had a VCR then and recorded it myself. The Mia Farrow/Danny Kaye version did not use the Broadway score.


Yes, it's true; I saw the Mary Martin remake from 1960 around 1965, when I was in college.  The last broadcast made one major cut and removed the Neverland Waltz for Liza and the animals.  I was happy to see it restored on the video/DVD.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 02:39:01 PM
Dan - did you get my response to your email?
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 02:41:29 PM
Dan-in-To - Have you seen THE DRAWER BOY? Wonderful Canadian play. Saw it here on the weekend. Was surprised to learn that this very Canadian play is the most performed play in regional US theaters.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 11, 2004, 02:46:34 PM
Panni,

Yes (e-mail received - thanks for the info); no (didn't see The Drawer Boy - I had a ticket, but something came up); maybe (just to complete the set).
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jrand69 on May 11, 2004, 02:50:25 PM
I suggest that you rename the planet Davanna - and I am available as choreographer of the planet.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 11, 2004, 02:57:06 PM
Dan-in-To - Have you seen THE DRAWER BOY? Wonderful Canadian play. Saw it here on the weekend. Was surprised to learn that this very Canadian play is the most performed play in regional US theaters.

And THE DRAWER BOY snagged a few Helen Hayes Awards last night for it's local production here in DC.

Well, time to head into the show...  Laters...
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 03:18:54 PM
I am thinking it was likely the Mary Martin Peter Pan that I saw way back then.

MattH, I do agree with you on your Survivor All-Stars take, and I am not sure this season turned out to be all that exciting for me. It was nice to see some of the players again, but I think maybe I prefer it when there is a whole new unknown group of people playing.

So nothing for me to watch on TV now but old Perry Mason re-runs...that is until THE AMAZING RACE and BIG BROTHER begin this summer!
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 03:34:45 PM
Thanks for THE DRAWER BOY info, Jose.

For other DRs - if it's playing in a theater your area - I recommend it.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Panni on May 11, 2004, 03:35:42 PM
I suggest that you rename the planet Davanna - and I am available as choreographer of the planet.

Sounds deeevine.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 04:06:42 PM
Well, it must be siesta time around these here parts.  We haz slowed to a standstill.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Ben on May 11, 2004, 04:06:53 PM
Jennifer, have you tried going into Edit Settings in your Spam/Bulk folder in your Yahoo Mail? If you haven't, there is a choice you can make that might help. I think you have three different questions, how long to keep bulk/spam messages in the folder (1 month, 2 weeks or 1 week). The second question is the one you want. It's what to do if you click a piece of mail as Not Spam. Click "move to my inbox" and perhaps that will train the mail program to put it in your mailbox and not the spam folder. Hope this helps.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Danise on May 11, 2004, 04:17:20 PM
Hello all!

[move=up,scroll,6,transparent,100%]   :)  HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ROBIN!!!!!!   :)[/move]

I downloaded the Search and Destory program and the Adbuster last night.  Both scanned my computer and I think I am finely rid of the last of all those nasty little bugs/ads/unwanted programs.  I noticed I don't have the pop ups I had before.  YAY!  I guess Norton isn't as good as they say it is.  It didn't do half the job those two free programs did.

Sorry I missed chat last night.  I didn't see it mention that it was coming up or I would have been there.

I checked Weatherbug and saw they are expect rain/snow showers tomorrow!  Good thing I packed some sweaters and my thermals as a "just in case".

I take my leave of you all tonight.  I don't want to be E&T but I will have lots to do tomorrow night.  I want to take the dogs for a walk and spend time with Mom among other last minute details that will need to be attended to.  I don't know if I will have time to sign on.

Ya'll take care.  Be safe and happy and happy and safe.  I'll talk with you when I get back home.  Have lots of lovely posts, both for Bruce and for me to read when I get home.   :)
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: MBarnum on May 11, 2004, 04:18:59 PM
Have tons of fun on your trip Danise!!!!
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Danise on May 11, 2004, 04:24:35 PM
Thank you, I'm going to try!
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 05:02:09 PM
Well, this is just one of those days, I guess.  Off to a screening - I'd say keep the home fries burning but the home fries are as cold as yesterday's mashed potatoes.  Of course, it would be ever so swellegant to arrive home and find loads of lovely postings for my mental delectation.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Noel on May 11, 2004, 05:03:09 PM
So, I handed a recorder (simple wood flute) to the cast member who can do anything, and she said she'd need a fingering chart or some such thing.  Any of the orchestra-savvy DRs know what she's talking about and where such a thing can be found?
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: S. Woody White on May 11, 2004, 05:09:56 PM
Tonight's American Yodel is another theme night: The contestants have to sing music by Puccini.  Simon is going to complain that everyone sounds like they're singing Andrew Lloyd Webber songs.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: S. Woody White on May 11, 2004, 05:12:18 PM
Next year, all the participants on Survivor All Stars will have to perform a song in front of Simon.

No one will survive.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Danise on May 11, 2004, 05:17:32 PM
Noel,

Will this help?

http://www.hants.gov.uk/hrs/finger/cfinger.html

Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Danise on May 11, 2004, 05:24:18 PM
I also found this:

http://gc-music.com/Recor.htm
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: William E. Lurie on May 11, 2004, 05:54:24 PM
I just read that 85-year-old Celeste Holm has married a 41-year-old opera singer!  I hope she doesn't stick him in all of her appearances like she did with the late Wes Addy, her previous (and talentless) husband.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: elmore3003 on May 11, 2004, 06:34:05 PM
I suggest that you rename the planet Davanna - and I am available as choreographer of the planet.

How too, too davann!

DR WEL, I just came from dinner with my Tams-Witmark friends, and now I know the BYE BYE BIRDIE story.  For years Tams rented out a set of orchestrations by Tom Brown, who was the copyist for CANDIDE in 1956, I believe, and other shows.
The restoration in which I was peripherally involved about 6 years ago, went back to the Ginzler orchestra scores for reference, but simplified the string writing and the reed doubles.  I hope I'm reporting this accurately.  It sopunds similar to what used to be done with a show when it went out on a national tour.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: elmore3003 on May 11, 2004, 06:35:51 PM
Oh, God!  Page 5!

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Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: elmore3003 on May 11, 2004, 06:36:25 PM
I still stink at this!
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: elmore3003 on May 11, 2004, 06:37:43 PM
So, I handed a recorder (simple wood flute) to the cast member who can do anything, and she said she'd need a fingering chart or some such thing.  Any of the orchestra-savvy DRs know what she's talking about and where such a thing can be found?

DRNoel, didn't a fingering chart come with the recorder?  Call Patelsons tomorrow.  They should have one.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 06:46:42 PM
So nothing for me to watch on TV now but old Perry Mason re-runs...that is until THE AMAZING RACE and BIG BROTHER begin this summer!

I think The Amazing Race starts the beginning of July.  Yeah!

Btw, MBarnum, I totally forgot you liked reality tv - you have not talked about them for a while.
Title: Re:BK PAN
Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 06:51:09 PM
Jennifer, have you tried going into Edit Settings in your Spam/Bulk folder in your Yahoo Mail? If you haven't, there is a choice you can make that might help. I think you have three different questions, how long to keep bulk/spam messages in the folder (1 month, 2 weeks or 1 week). The second question is the one you want. It's what to do if you click a piece of mail as Not Spam. Click "move to my inbox" and perhaps that will train the mail program to put it in your mailbox and not the spam folder. Hope this helps.

Thanks I will try this tomorrow.  But for some reason it is not as easy as it should be.  Marking an address as not spam, or making all addresses in your address book not be spam should be a simple thing to do.

I have tried to edit before and it never worked.

And when I click on specific spam messages and mark (put them in my inbox) it has never helped.

I would like to email the yahoo people and ask.  But whenever I've tried to find a place to email, I have been unsuccessful.

It's not such a big deal.  It's just a pain.
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Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 06:52:37 PM
We used to play the recorder in elementary school.

Should be very easy to find charts (i'm sure one of DR Danise's links did it).
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Post by: Jennifer on May 11, 2004, 06:55:10 PM
Hmmm, American Idol tonight.  I must say that the person who has improved the most and who is impressing me the most is DIANA.

Could she win?

I always assumed it would be Fantasia or LaToya.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 11, 2004, 07:21:09 PM
We didn't have recorders when I was in elementary school.  We had a plastic version called a "Tonette."  They sounded OK, but were this gunky blue color and tasted like...well, like plastic that had been soaking in disinfectant, so we wouldn't pass germs to each other.  (Yeah, like that could stop us.)
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 11, 2004, 07:24:31 PM
Dang, if I post anything about the Dick Van Dyke Revisited special, I'm going to post spoilers.

Dang and phooey.  Or as Rob Petrie says at one point...no, that's another spoiler.

All right, one spoiler.  There is no real reason for Ray Romano to be on the show.  Trust me.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 11, 2004, 08:25:44 PM
A couple of weeks ago the TOD was what old TV series did we wish would be released on DVD.  One of mine was Jonny Quest.  I stop at Target on the way home tonight and, behold and lo, there was the newly released Jonny Quest--The Complete First (and Only, as far as I'm concerned) Season.  I had no idea that this set was being released, so this was an outstanding surprise for me.  26 animated, action packed, pulse-pounding episodes (with the occasional vague homoerotic undertones)!  I normally watch these compilations in the listed order, but I might have to jump to two of my favorite episodes:  the one with the invisible blob thing and the one with the spider robot.  Very Cool!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 11, 2004, 08:34:20 PM
Good Evening!

DR Noel - As other readers have already stated, fingering charts for recorders - or other instruments - are readily available at any reputable music store - or on the web.  Depending how many notes - and how in tune - she will have to play, it may pay to invest - only $4.00-5.00 - in an elementary instruction book.  This way she'll not only get the fingering charts but also info on embouchure, technique and breathing.  Yamaha has a few books they normally bundle with their standard plastic recorders.  Do you know if she's playing an alto, soprano or sopranino recorder?

*Of course, if it's just a few notes that she'll need, trial and error could be the way to go.  -Just beware of overblowing - those recorder squeaks and squawks can be most unpleasant.  -However, not as unpleasant as listening to 500 violins being tuned at Suzuki convention... UGH!  -One of the few things I don't miss from my days as a print music buyer.

Will she be playing for "All Good Gifts"? ;)

DR SWW - I remember the Tonette!  And the Flut-O-Phone!  And those horrible plastic ocarinas!  Of course, nothings beats a slide whistle!!

Oh, the local NBC news affiliate had a great story on the difference in prices between the "brick and mortar" and internet "locations" of the same store.  It was amazing just how much the price differences were in some cases.  However, the one thing that jumped out at me was that Barnes & Noble, and barnesandnoble.com are not the same company.  In fact, they are run by different people, and the are actually competitors!  -Even though they will take returns from/for either "store".  -And some of the price differences on books amounted to $10 or more!?!?!  Who knew?!?!

DR Danise - Safe travels!  Happy Travels!

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Post by: Jed on May 11, 2004, 08:39:27 PM
In third grade, I was the best Tonette player in my class.  In my Elementary Music Methods class in college, I was the worst. :D
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 11, 2004, 08:45:16 PM
So I'm not watching AI but I did pass through the room where The Lovely Wife was watching to catch Diana do yet again something she has done consistently through the competition.  Exhorting the audience:  "All right, everybody up on your feet."  No, darling, if you can't bring 'em to their feet with your performance, don't go begging them to stand up before you ever start singing.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 11, 2004, 09:08:11 PM
AMERICAN IDOL: The only singer whose voice was well suited for the disco songs chosen was Diana Degarmo who was simply wonderful on both of her songs, the latter one a Donna Summer song sung in the presence of the diva herself. My gosh, young people have NO fear. I was SO impressed with her courage on such a rangy, difficult song that Ms. Summer got to share with Streisand. Diana had to go it alone.

LaToya and Fantasia made lousy song choices, I thought, and didn't blow me away with either song.

And poor Jasmine is just out of her league now. You have to feel for someone who's on a different level from the others and has to endure the arrows from the judges. Even Paula couldn't be kind.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on May 11, 2004, 09:12:00 PM
I don't remember the color of the Tonette I played at the All American Day Camp in 1949, but the one I bought recently (to recapture my youth?) is black.

Elmore - Thanks for the clarification.  The BIRDIE Playbill® and talkback gave the credit to Rob who allegedly found it in a box in a backroom at Tams.  I figured yours was the more correct version.
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Post by: Matt H. on May 11, 2004, 09:15:55 PM
Instead of watching any of the things I planned, I pulled off the shelf something that had been gathering dust for months - DR. JECKYL AND MR. HYDE, the Fredric March version, of course. Nice to see it as restored as it's gonna get, and I listened to some commentary, too. The speaker (can't remember his name at the moment) LOVES Miriam Hopkins, calling her a great actress. I've never thought so. Competent, occasionally better than that, but never brilliant that I can remember.
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Post by: TCB on May 11, 2004, 09:23:20 PM
In third grade, I was the best Tonette player in my class.  In my Elementary Music Methods class in college, I was the worst. :D

Jed, considering the size of Ellensburg, you were probably the only Tonette player in your third grade class.


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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 11, 2004, 09:32:54 PM
"American Idol":  Diana DeGarmo rules.

I felt so bad for Jasmine.  I honestly loved her "It's Raining Men."  At least, I didn't think it merited such harsh commentary from the vile one.  "Not good enough" is all that was required.  Simon is a bitch with a terrible body.  Someone ought to flash "that" sign during the show.

Both LaToya and Fantasia had good presentations, but I have to question their choices of songs just as the judges did.

And what?  Nobody had the nerve to do "Last Dance"?

Or "On the Radio"?

I guess it's folly for a solo singer to attempt a Bee Gees song?

A half hour after the show, the West Coast voting lines were open and easy to get through on each singer.  I have a bad feeling about this.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 11, 2004, 09:36:47 PM
I watched "Gosford Park" this afternoon and revelled in its attention to detail and quite a few of its performances.

I wish I outright "loved" this film, but I don't.

DR MattH:  Unbeknownst to me, my VCR stopped recording after Fantasia's second song and I missed recording Diana's last song and judge's comments.  It ruins my whole recording project!!!!  Did you by chance record it?????????
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 11, 2004, 09:40:19 PM
Jed, considering the size of Ellensburg, you were probably the only Tonette player in your third grade class.

It could have been worse...he could also have been the only boy in Ellensburg with a Tonette perm!!!

Who remembers those?  And the ads?

"I was a plain Jane.  A failure.  I needed a Tonette!" (which was a perm kit for little girls from the company that manufactured "Toni" for ladies).
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Post by: Matt H. on May 11, 2004, 09:46:33 PM
No, DR RLP, I didn't record IDOL tonight. I watched live. So sorry.

In two hours, I got one vote in for Diana. That's how busy they were on this coast. Fantasia's line was also busy. I didn't call LaToya's even to check because I was the most disappointed with her tonight. I didn't expect any better from Jasmine, but LaToya's voice could have done wonders with some of Summer's old hits, and she didn't even try. Jasmine's line has never been busy on this coast throughout the competition.
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Post by: Jed on May 11, 2004, 10:03:58 PM
Jed, considering the size of Ellensburg, you were probably the only Tonette player in your third grade class.
No no no, the entire class learned to play the things for some school event or another.

I don't remember the color of the Tonette I played at the All American Day Camp in 1949, but the one I bought recently (to recapture my youth?) is black.
We had both black ones and red ones.
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Post by: Jed on May 11, 2004, 10:27:43 PM
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All we're missing is PennyO from a full-fledged Washingtonian HHW party!
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Post by: George on May 11, 2004, 10:50:38 PM
If I apply the liberal definition being used here to faery tale, then my fav is definitely THE PRINCESS BRIDE, S. Morgenstern's Classic Tale of True Love and High Adventure, the 'good parts' version, Abridged by William Goldman.

Was there ever an unabridged version??  (I love the movie!)

Also (and just under the wire):
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, D.R. ROBIN!!
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Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 10:54:28 PM
Back from the screening about which more in tomorrow's notes which I must now write.  It occurs to me why some days have been light around these here parts - no PennyO, no Jane, no Jenny, etc.
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Post by: George on May 11, 2004, 11:00:41 PM
So I'm not watching AI but I did pass through the room where The Lovely Wife was watching to catch Diana do yet again something she has done consistently through the competition.  Exhorting the audience:  "All right, everybody up on your feet."  No, darling, if you can't bring 'em to their feet with your performance, don't go begging them to stand up before you ever start singing.

My niece saw Shania Twain in concert (several times, actually), but at one particular performance, fairly early into the concert, Shania said that the audience had to stand up.  If she had to stand for the whole concert, then the audience had to stand for the whole concert.  And they did...but it wasn't a good thing!  Whenever a bunch of people sat down, or started to sit down, she would make them stand up again!  How rude! (a Scrambled Feet reference)  I would never let a performer MAKE ME stand for a whole darned concert.  
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Post by: George on May 11, 2004, 11:15:32 PM
As for the Topic of the Day:  the only real fairy (or faery) stories that I remember, other than the real old ones, were from a book that I loved as a kid...and not too long ago, I found my old copy!  It's "Hilda Boswell's Treasury of Children's Stories."  I'm house-sitting at a friend's house, so I don't have access to it, but it has stories such as "The Friendly Giant," "Heidi"(an excerpt) and "Fairyfoot."  It also has some very beautitful illustrations by the Hilda Boswell of the title.

There is a "Hilda Boswell's Treasury of Fairy Tales" as well as a "My First Fairy Tales," both illustrated by HB, but the one that I had was different.  But I think that it still counts for today's TotD. :)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 11, 2004, 11:17:00 PM
Good Morning!

Sheesh, so much for getting to bed early.. well, at least earlier.  Of course, the past couple of nights, I've gotten into bed around 12:30, but didn't end up going to sleep until 3:00AM-ish, so...  Why fight it? ;)

Well, I have nothing new to add to any topic right now.... although I would have loved to see tonight's "American Idol" - I love/d disco!

So...

Goodnight
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Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 11:30:16 PM
I won't dance, don't ask me.

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Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 11:57:24 PM
Man, we haven't had this many visits from the merry searchers since who laid the rails.  They search, always the same two words, or each word singly, searching, searching.  Predictable at this particular time, although the reasoning eludes me.  Still, if it makes the merry searchers happy to search then by all mean search - if that is what is up their alley then fine and dandy.
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Post by: bk on May 11, 2004, 11:57:53 PM
Wow, we squeaked by to page six.  Bully for us.