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Title: THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 12:01:58 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you've discovered the treasures therein, you know the drill, you know the routine, you know the deal, so let's get crackin', shall we?  We shall.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Charles Pogue on May 15, 2004, 12:12:51 AM
elmore, how interesting your desire to see a more comprehensive coverage of the Trojan War.  

Twenty-odd years ago...when I was first getting a foothold in this business, I wrote a 176-page almost scene-for-scene bible for a eight to ten hour mini-series on The Trojan War that began with Paris' birth to when the Greeks sacked Troy and began their returns.  

Had that series gone, I would have liked to have done one that dealt with just the returns.  As it was, I researched the myths and the myths behind the myths and the variant myths and all the classical interpretations of the myths... Shakespeare, Chaucer, the Greek Playwrights, etc. and did not just based my story on the Illiad alone.  The piece opened a lot of doors for me and several people like David Wolper's company and a couple of directors flirted with the property, but nothing ever came of it.  The last few years, I've played around with the idea of doing it as a massive Nickolas Nickleby type-play and as an epic novel.  The novel is definitely in the works.  I may do it the play version too.  So soon one day, you'll have your wish.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Ann on May 15, 2004, 12:13:11 AM
Good evening all
I saw a puppet opera tonight.  Very fun performances.  Early music singers and musicians sat on either side of the puppet stage and sang/played for the characters.  The pupperty was masterfully done, beautiful carved marionettes.  Amazing how lifelike the the movements of the puppets can seem.  All in all a great show of a little-known art form.

I too am about to officially graduate...with the cap and gown and tassel and boring speeches and everything.  This Sunday at 2 pm.  Hoo and ray.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 12:16:08 AM
I'm shutting off the old computer. Not ready for beddy yet -- have a toothache. Will wander around the house aching for a while - chat with the dog (maybe not - he's asleep). G'night.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 12:19:14 AM
Just read your post, Ann. Congrats on the graduation!
RE puppetry - My cousin in Budapest is the artistic director of a puppet theater. They do plays (not for kids), operas, everything with puppets.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 12:21:21 AM
And one for Mahler.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Ann on May 15, 2004, 12:22:33 AM
Good evening all
I saw a puppet opera tonight.  Very fun performances.  Early music singers and musicians sat on either side of the puppet stage and sang/played for the characters.  The pupperty was masterfully done, beautiful carved marionettes.  Amazing how lifelike the the movements of the puppets can seem.  All in all a great show of a little-known art form.

I too am about to officially graduate...with the cap and gown and tassel and boring speeches and everything.  This Sunday at 2 pm.  Hoo and ray.


Jed corrects me...I "officially" graduated when I finished my last semester in December.  But it somehow FEELS more official now that I'm going through actual commencement ceremony.  

Happy now, Jed?? :)
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Post by: Jed on May 15, 2004, 12:25:06 AM
Yup. :D
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 12:26:09 AM
I shall be consistent with what I  suspect I wrote for this topic last time around.
My prized Lps are my Anthony Newley collection.
I would also like to see the release of "Golden Piano Hits" by Ferrante & Teicher. Quite a few of the others by the duo have been released now.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 12:26:10 AM
I have several beloved LPs that haven't made it to CD yet, including the already mentioned English version of The Young Girls of Rochefort, a fantastic album of Larry Adler, the harmonica player, doing classical harmonica concerti by Vaughan-Williams, Arthur Benjamin, Malcolm Arnold and someone else I can't remember, the Gold and Fizdale performance of Dave Brubeck's Points on Jazz (one of the great unknown albums), Betty Hutton's Saints and Sinners, conducted by Jerry Fielding, etc.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 12:29:56 AM
A few soundtracks, too, like Richard Rodney Bennett's wonderful scores for Billion Dollar Brain and Yanks, David Shire's The Promise, Previn's Inside Daisy Clover and Dead Ringer (available on a bootleg CD, but we want the real deal please), George Duning's great The Devil at Four O'Clock and Bell, Book, and Candle, the Polydor Rozsa albums, etc.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Jrand73 on May 15, 2004, 04:58:30 AM
Congrats Ann!

Hmmm have fun in Sierra Madre - I am sure there are treasures to be had.  And we look forward to stories from the High School Reunion as well.


Last time we did what LP's we want on CD, I found out that some of the ones I wanted ARE on CD....hmmmmmmmm.  I will have to look around.

I have a Young Girls LP that I got for fifty cents in a CutOut bin, I will have to see if I can find it.  Although it seems to me it is the French language version....I can't remember!

I also vote for DEAD RINGER and INSIDE DAISY CLOVER on CD!  One of my favorites Previn scores FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE was released last year!

Saturday!
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 04:59:13 AM
DR Michael Shayne - if you check the painting of the Lake in yesterday's notes - Tekapo is near Mt Cook. The lake is the most amazing blue - glacial waters from the Tasman glacier I think. I think the hobbits go to the Church pictured.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Michael on May 15, 2004, 05:07:29 AM
I shall be consistent with what I  suspect I wrote for this topic last time around.
My prized Lps are my Anthony Newley collection.
I would also like to see the release of "Golden Piano Hits" by Ferrante & Teicher. Quite a few of the others by the duo have been released now.

I am sure our very own Allison Fraiser would love to talk to you about your Anthony Newley collection.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Michael on May 15, 2004, 05:10:05 AM
DR Michael Shayne - if you check the painting of the Lake in yesterday's notes - Tekapo is near Mt Cook. The lake is the most amazing blue - glacial waters from the Tasman glacier I think. I think the hobbits go to the Church pictured.

Thanks for the beautiful picture. I spent a part of the evening   looking at various sights that offer various vacations.  I am looking at the ones that take you from Auckland to Christchurch that run 10 to 12 days. There are quite a few of them.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Michael on May 15, 2004, 05:18:12 AM
When I was in Montreal I went through my LP collection in my parent's basement and actuallly took some back with me. If I ever figure out how to hook up my new system with all the various burners and players I will make copies for me and the various DR I promised copies to.

I brought four with me this time and they are:

Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Baker Street
The owl and the pussycat (dialogue highlights and music)
Julie Andrews' Love Me Tender (The NA release. I understand the European release had more tracks)

But there are not alot of other LPS I have that yet to make it to CD. The stack gets smaller and smaller.

But I do love my LP of Stages. I mourn the fact that the original masters no longer exist as I would love a proper cd of it.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Robin on May 15, 2004, 05:44:14 AM
My LP of Baker Street warped into non-playability years ago, so I'd love a CD of that.  And I used to have an LP of a string quintet by Leonard Rosenman that I loved and lost.  (Note to self: never loan your most beloved LPs to one-night stands.  You'll never see either of them again.)

And of course, I'd simply adore CD re-issues of Pat Suzuki's LPs, especially "Broadway '59".  There is a compilation CD, The Very Best of Pat Suzuki, but I want all of her.  
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Matt H. on May 15, 2004, 05:53:17 AM
I will be E&T for a big chunk of today as I'm helping a friend clear out his storage locker and taking the items to a consignment shop. I'd hope it will only take up the morning, but I have no idea how much he's got there in storage.

Favorite LP not on CD: the Bette Davis revue TWO'S COMPANY. I also mentioned before that I have an RCA LP called STARS OF THE SILVER SCREEN 1929-1930 which features studio recordings of songs from the early years of talkies made by the stars themselves so you have Gloria Swanson doing "Love, Your Magic Spell is Everywhere" and Everett Marshall doing "Mr. and Mrs. Sippi." I adore this LP as we get complete renditions of songs and not just snippets, the complete Fanny Brice "Cookin' Breakfast for the One I Love" uninterrupted by dialogue as it is in the film.

And I, too, would love to see BAKER STREET even with its mediocre score.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Matt H. on May 15, 2004, 05:56:58 AM
When I finally get back home, I have no clue what DVDs I'll want to watch. I'm thinking one of the Kettle movies, but my thoughts could change after a long morning of loading and unloading sofas and entertainment centers.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 06:53:01 AM
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf is available on a French import CD and it sounds great.  Footlight probably has it.  Warners France released several terrific sixties soundtracks, all of which are worth getting.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 07:10:23 AM
Sorry if we've done this topic recently - couldn't remember.  Still, I like it, and it's always interesting to see new answers.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Jrand73 on May 15, 2004, 07:16:55 AM
Oh it's been awhile....LOL

And there are always new choices.

I would like the BILLIE soundtrack on CD, some of the songs were on Patty Duke's CD, but not the Dominic Frontiere score.  \

And is the BONJOUR TRISTESSE score available on CD?
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: William E. Lurie on May 15, 2004, 07:29:40 AM
BK - If the new notes were posted at Midnight PDT and you had to hurry to get out of the way of the evil eye, what time does she come to clean?

I've loved "Young Girls" since I first saw it in 1968.  I remember dancing out of the theatre.  I've never seen the English dubbed version, although if it is anything like the English dubbed version of "Umbrellas", I'll skip it if the opportunity comes.

A very busy weekend...

This afternoon - A concert at the Mueseum of the City of New York feraturing songs about New York.  Phyllis Newman Green stars and it's put together and directed by Michael Montel who has done several of the better Musicals in Mufti

Tonight - JAVE A HEART, the first Kern-Wodehouse musical, at Musicals Tonight

Tomorrow Afternoon - Highlights from Tony Broadcasts Part 1 at the Museum of Television and Radio - 90 minutes of musical numbers from the Cohen years to be followed next week by another 90 minutes

Tomorrow evening - The original "Godzilla" with subtitles instead of dubbing, all the anti-American scenes restored and no Raymond Burr

Monday night - A reading of a new musical "Heading East" with B. D. Wong

No wonder I never have time to watch any DVDs.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 08:05:03 AM
Love the original Godzilla - have had it on tape for years (transferred to DVD recently).  

Even thought I write the notes before midnight, I pretend that I'm writing them in the morning.  Isn't that marvy.

The English dub on Young Girls is nowhere near the horrendous English dub on Umbrellas, which I've only seen once (it's rarely, if ever, shown - this was on local TV about twenty years ago).
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Post by: MBarnum on May 15, 2004, 08:05:17 AM
The one LP that I have, which I have listended to since I was a child, is LEVANT PLAYS GERSHWIN: Rhapsody in Blue, Concerto in F, and An American in Paris.

There is a CD titled Levant Plays Gershwin and it it has Rhapsody in Blue and Concerto in F, but no An American in Paris?!
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Jrand73 on May 15, 2004, 08:05:33 AM
WEL - you are going to one of my FAVORITE places in NYC and one of its best kept secrets:  Museum of the City of New York!  
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 15, 2004, 08:08:09 AM
MBARNUM thanks so much for the video.  More WB!

And these episodes were great.  Troy Donahue as Starr Bright the new parking attendant at 77 Sunset Strip.  Grant Williams solving a case in Hawaiian Eye, although I missed Anthony Eisley.  And Troy Donahue on trial for murder on Surfside 6 - to begin with!

And featured in one of the episodes Miss Joan Marshall aka Joan Arless who played the double role in Homicidal!  

Thanks....and I will listen to the Cd today!
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 15, 2004, 08:09:33 AM
Oh and Richard Crane had some great scenes in particular in one of the Surfside 6 episodes, he is on the phone to Lee Patterson, and he says: "I am on my way to the Flamigo Motel."  Patterson says: "Can I come with you?"  "Sure, I'll pick you up."  What's up with that??
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: elmore3003 on May 15, 2004, 08:13:37 AM
elmore, how interesting your desire to see a more comprehensive coverage of the Trojan War.  

Twenty-odd years ago...when I was first getting a foothold in this business, I wrote a 176-page almost scene-for-scene bible for a eight to ten hour mini-series on The Trojan War that began with Paris' birth to when the Greeks sacked Troy and began their returns.  

Well, God knows you could do it!  And didn't John Barton put together for the Royal Shakespeare Company from all the extant Greek tragedies?  A major problem is the chronology:

1.  The whole thing begins with Eris, the golden apple, and the marriage of Peleus and Thetis, Achilles' parents, so if Paris is a young shepherd on Mt Ida this very same day, Achilles is either a young bastard or a not-yet-born infant!  We do know that Telemachus, Odysseus' son is no more than a year old, maybe not even born, at the time the Ithacans joined the War, because he's a young man when Odysseus returns after 10 years at war and 10 years on the road!

2.  Is it a 10-year war by our contemporary dating system or a looser period of fewer months, such as the 1000-year-old Methuselah?  My biggest problem with TROY as a movie is that the filmmakers have no problem with the violence of battle, but no interest in the violence cause by the Greeks to the area, the raping and pillaging of neighboring territories to maintain their existence outside Troy.  Also, several important characters die far much earlier than any legend says.  And I always wondered, how did a walled city sustain itself for such a long siege?

3.  How to deal with the supernatural?  Like A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM, the human world is reflected in the supernatural one, with gods and goddesses taking sides, picking favorites, bribing and cajoling aliances: the War was so epic that all worlds known to the Greeks were involved in it.  I would prefer nothing like the gods in CLASH OF THE TITANS or  JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS, but I miss having the deities involved in some way, such as Thetis' involvement with forging Achilles' armor, Aphrodite saving Paris in his battle with Menelaos, Hera seducing Zeus (that's just low humor in the ILIAD but the War wasn't all serious), in the later variants on the story, since the ILIAD only covers one section of time in the War:  Achilles' snit and the death of Hector, we've got Artemis, a Trojan ally, driving Ajax mad, besides supposedly saving Iphigeneia from sacrifice.

Incidentally, there's a new novel about Iphigeneia's sacrifice, THE SONG OF THE KINGS, by Barry Unsworth, which I enjoyed immensely.

And also, DR CharlesPogue, I just got the DVD of SIGN OF FOUR; I know you're not that happy with how it turned out, but I look forward to watching it.
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Post by: MBarnum on May 15, 2004, 08:14:01 AM
Oh and Richard Crane had some great scenes in particular in one of the Surfside 6 episodes, he is on the phone to Lee Patterson, and he says: "I am on my way to the Flamigo Motel."  Patterson says: "Can I come with you?"  "Sure, I'll pick you up."  What's up with that??

I would say that Lee Patterson has good taste! LOL!
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Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 08:15:13 AM
Good morning. The topic du jour is not one to which I can contribute much. I used to have a number of interesting LP's - but not now (although I have a turntable). I had a bf who used to bring me back various rare and wonderful LP's from a little used records store he frequented somewhere in New England. No longer have the bf or the LP's. Wish I still had the LP's.
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Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 08:17:18 AM
PAGE TWO!  (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/musik/music-smiley-009.gif)
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: JMK on May 15, 2004, 08:29:59 AM
Well I know that JR and I would both give our eye teeth (no mean feat) for a CD release of Frances Farmer Swings Fats Domino.   :P

There are still a few Sergio Mendes related LPs that have yet to get released on CD, notably two from his Brasil '66 spinoff Bossa Rio, Bossa Rio Live at Expo 70 and Alegria, both released on the Capitol imprint Blue Thumb (which was briefly resurrected a few years ago).  Lord only knows who owns the catalog now, so it will probably never happen.

In soundtrack land, I'd love Up the Down Staircase, The Collector and Lord Jim (to name but a few) on CD.  In cast album land, how's about Family Affair, Philemon, Anya (the OCR--we all know of BK's most excellent re-do), and Donnybrook (for starters)?
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 08:31:20 AM
The Collector had a brief release on CD, along with several other Mainstream/Ava soundtrack albums.  They're all out of print now, but not all that hard to find.
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Post by: JMK on May 15, 2004, 08:33:50 AM
Really?  Wow!  I have the Mainstream Patch of Blue on CD, I'll have to search now for The Collector.  Care to point me in a direction (I'll start with eBay).
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 15, 2004, 08:42:21 AM
Well, I got so caught up in the Trojan War that I forgot the TOD!

DRMBarnum,  unless Oscar Levant's playing a piano solo version of "An American In Paris (possible!)," you'll only find it as an orchestra piece.  Maybe Levant was playing the Songbook or other pieces and your memory is lapsing?  I will investigate.

There are so many things I'd like to see surface on disc yet:

Dorothy Provine's two ROARING 20s albums, which used great band charts from the 1920s Warner catalogue.
Joan Morris and William Bolcom:  the current Nonesuch powers don't seem to want these two in print, and BMG is holding on to a few titles as well.
MOZART AFTER HOURS with Maureen Forrester, a Vanguard release
SONGS I TAUGHT MY MOTHER, Charlotte Rae's funny recording, also Vanguard(?)
Cast Albums
MAN WITH A LOAD OF MISCHIEF
NEW FACES OF 1956, for "April in Fairbanks"
NEW FACES OF 1968, for Madeline Kahn's "Das Chicago Song"
BAKER STREET
CYRANO
IN CIRCLES
Some of those early 1950s abridged recordings (1 per side), like Doretta Morrow doing NAUGHTY MARIETTA, or Felix Knight and Mimi Benzell doing CAN-CAN and KISS ME KATE
The Jane Pickens MUSIC IN THE AIR
REGINA:  New York City Opera
WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF? with Uta Hagen
SCHOOL FOR SCANDAL:  Ralph Richardson, Geraldine McEwen, et al.
Soundtracks
THE KING OF HEARTS
INSIDE DAISY CLOVER

Now that Harpercollins owns Caedmon Records, I wish they'd make the catalogue available on CD, especially the following:
MARAT/SADE complete complete Royal Shakespeare production
TARTUFFE:  Stratford Festival
MOTHER GOOSE:  with Celeste Holm. Boris Karloff, and Cyril Ritchard and brilliant musical arrangements by Hershey Kay, it ain't just for kids!
Eudora Welty reads "Why I Live at the P.O." and others

Other Plays:
WAY OF THE WORLD (wasn't this the National Theatre production?)
LOVE FOR LOVE (on RCA) National Theatre with Olivier, Lynn Redgrave, etc.

CLASSICAL:
NUTCRACKER, conducted by Robert Irving and the NYC Ballet Orchestra
THE SLEEPING BEAUTY (Mercury), Antal Dorati and the Minneapolis Orchestra
Two Hershey Kay Ballets for New York City Ballet:
STARS AND STRIPES, conducted by Henry Lewis (Decca)
WESTERN SYMPHONY, conducted by Robert Irving and the NYC Ballet Orchestra

And the list continues . . .        


Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: JMK on May 15, 2004, 08:42:52 AM
Hey, here are two totally unrelated laughs for the day.

1.  Did anyone catch that gameshow clip show last week?  I was channel surfing and caught this, which had me giggling all night.  It was a clip from the British version of Family Feud.  Two LOL (that's little old ladies) were the contestants.  The veddy British hosts intones, "Name a slang term for money," at which point LOL #1 (she was 85 if she was a day) rings in and chimes in a very dignified accent "Bitch!".  The host, in robotic fashion, begins to turn around to point to the board, then realizes what the LOL has said, and turns back to her in disbelief.  "What did you say?," he asks incredulously.  "Bitch!" she merrily repeats.  The host, really incredulous now, says, "I asked you for a slang term for money."  "Oh," says the extremely reasonable LOL.  "I thought you said a slang term for Mommy!"

2.  Betsy was driving the kids around the other day when suddenly from the backseat Gabe asked her, "Mom, are you federally mandated?"
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: JMK on May 15, 2004, 08:45:22 AM
Yes to Cyrano, Elmoore!!  (The only OCR of a musical released on my fave label, A&M.  Yes, they did Boys in the Band, but that doesn't count).

And how's about the 1974 Candide with Lewis J. Stadlen?
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 15, 2004, 08:45:43 AM

 In cast album land, how's about Family Affair, Philemon, Anya (the OCR--we all know of BK's most excellent re-do), and Donnybrook (for starters)?


And all the ones JMK just mentioned, to boot!  Also the Jones Beach SONG OF NORWAY (Columbia), the John Reardon-Lisa Della Casa MERRY WIDOW (Columbia) and some of the Lincoln Center cast albums for RCA:  MERRY WIDOW (Patrice Munsel), THE KING AND I (Darren McGavin and Rise Stevens).
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 08:47:45 AM
JMK: Try Footlight in NY, or eBay.  
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 15, 2004, 08:48:59 AM
The unintentional laugh in TROY last night:

Menelaos asked where Helen was and the shepherd/slave/whatever answered "she left with the Trojans."  Suddenly, I had this image  of Helen stuffing a bag with condoms.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 15, 2004, 08:49:02 AM
Good Morning!

As for LPs... I think most of the ones I had have made it to CD.  However, I do know that I have LPs of the OCRs (or at least Original Studio Recordings) of Matador and Nefertiti (which just got revived and revised in Chicago) - which I'm not sure I want on CD.  I just remember listening to the Matador recording with my friend, Mark, and we'd start singing the corresponding lyrics from the corresponding songs... from Evita!  HA!  Someone stealing for a stealer!  The waltz numbers are almost dead on!

But I do wish I could get my LP of Working back someday.

And there are just some LPs I liked because of the artwork and the booklets - especially the Sondheim shows: Sunday In the Park with George, Sweeney Todd and Merrily We Roll Along.

DR MBarnum - I believe all of those Oscar Levant reordings were released a couple of years ago.  I was on a big time Gershwin kick for a while - and I know I have at least 20 recordings of "Rhapsody in Blue" in my library.  But there was a company that released a bunch of the Levant recordings in various compilations.  I'm not sure if they're still in print, but you may want to do a search.  -And I'll check my own library when I get back to Richmond Sunday night.

OK - Time to for me get organized for the matinee.  Let's hope the A/C is working properly today.  We're expecting thunder storms today, and if the humidity goes up outside, it most definitely goes up inside.  Ugh!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 15, 2004, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: François de Paris on Yesterday at 08:20:19pm
It's 5:20 am here and I have 3 guests from the UK, completely loaded!, who ask me, after saying "good evening!! (well, the drinks don't help, I know!) where can they find a place to eat!

At 5:20 am!!
We're no palace here, with room service at all times!
 

Hmmmm....I guess I can blame Hollywood, but I always thought there were places on the Left Bank were folks could find French onion soup in the wee hours of any morning.

 
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: JMK on May 15, 2004, 08:55:32 AM
But I do wish I could get my LP of Working back someday.

JSP, you do know of the CD, don't you?  "Those were the days, my friend, we thought--"  Oh, never mind.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 08:56:14 AM
Jose: Working is on CD - I released it on the you-know-what label (sorry Merry Searchers).
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: JMK on May 15, 2004, 08:57:30 AM
Jinx.
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Post by: JMK on May 15, 2004, 08:57:52 AM
And/or Falkenberg.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on May 15, 2004, 09:01:07 AM
Before I start my busy days, here are a few LPs I'd love on CD:

All Capitol and most Decca and Columbia OCRs have been released (although Benjamin Kritzer and I are waiting for A THURBER CARNIVAL), but so many RCAs have never made it... HAZEL FLAGG, MAKE A WISH, NEW FACES OF 56, SEVENTEEN, just to start.
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Post by: JMK on May 15, 2004, 09:03:32 AM
Re:  A Thurber Carnival.  I was just yesterday talking about the classic Thurber cartoon of the two fencers (we had a birthday party yesterday at a fencing academy, where all the kids got to indulge in a little swordplay).  In the cartoon, a fencer has just sliced off his opponent's head and is saying, "Touche!"
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: JMK on May 15, 2004, 09:05:55 AM
I am my own frenzy.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 09:18:15 AM
I just looked through my records - all 6 of them - and I see a two-record Seraphim set which must be left over from my days of getting presents from New England. Perhaps someone can enlighten me as to what I've got here: The Art of Lotte Lehmann: Opera and Song Recordings 1916-33
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: elmore3003 on May 15, 2004, 09:29:34 AM
DR Panni, Seraphim was EMI's budget label for a long time, and I often felt their quality much lower than the original pressings.  Lotte Lehmann was one of the great German sopranos, probably most famous for the Marschallin in DER ROSENKAVALIER.  My guess is that you've got a budget label rerelease of a number of 78 rpm singles that she did for EMI between those years.  I'm sure a lot of it is glorious, but a lot may now be on CD with better sound.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 09:36:56 AM
Thank you for the info, elmore!

On a less musical note -- would someone please tell me why we need yet another remake of HELTER SKELTER?
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: elmore3003 on May 15, 2004, 09:39:30 AM
On a less musical note -- would someone please tell me why we need yet another remake of HELTER SKELTER?

To quote OH BROTHER!:  We love a good story!
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 15, 2004, 09:45:34 AM
DE (Dear Esteemed) BK, and DR JMK et al.. and frank... and bruno... Yes, I do know that WORKING is on CD...  And I have it too!  However, I would really just love to have my LP back.  The LP of the show was one of the first OCRs I remember listening to at the Arlington County Public Library many, many, many years ago.  And I also remember the notes on the back cover.  If I remember correctly, I think I was simply agog (ah, a MUSIC MAN reference) when I saw the word "shit" on there!?!?!?  For a good, Catholic school boy...  -Hmm.. since I am staying just a block away from that library... maybe a little nostalgia strip is in order, so...

Yes, I have the CD, but the LP would be nice too.  For sentimental reasons.

-Hmm.. with all this talk of HELTER SKELTER, maybe I need to dig out that disc of that Charles Manson musical/opera I bought years ago - and haven't listened to since... Hmm...

Ciao for niao!
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 10:11:29 AM
On location report from bk: I seem to be twenty years younger than the youngest person here. All looking at me as if I were a kid.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: S. Woody White on May 15, 2004, 10:41:53 AM
Even thought I write the notes before midnight, I pretend that I'm writing them in the morning.  Isn't that marvy.
Either that, or she's extremely thorough.  Which would be marvy, too.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 10:58:07 AM
For some reason I missed a whole group of posts on Page One, including Elmore's fascinating post about the problematic chronology of Greek myths (among other things).
My theory, for what it's worth, is that time is something we mere mortals have invented to keep us from being late to the dentist. The gods (and goddesses) had no such problem.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Sandra on May 15, 2004, 11:00:27 AM
I really have nothing to add to the topic o' the day because I don't have any LPs. So I'll just say this: They still haven't posted my grades.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Matt H. on May 15, 2004, 11:05:18 AM
When I read that the mythological aspects of the Trojan War were being jettisoned for TROY, I knew I would have NO interest in the film, despite the luscious Eric Bana as Hector. After reading many of the other liberties they took with the story, I KNOW I made the right decision for myself.

BTW, obviously I'm back from helping my friend remove the contents of his storage unit, so I have the rest of the day to relax and watch movies, etc.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: S. Woody White on May 15, 2004, 11:07:32 AM
...  -Hmm.. since I am staying just a block away from that library... maybe a little nostalgia strip is in order, so...
A little nostalgia STRIP?  A "good Catholic school boy" like yourself?  Clearly, there's more in your resume than you've been telling us, DR Jose!
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: S. Woody White on May 15, 2004, 11:08:31 AM
We'll just have to imagine a Gypsy Rose Lee smiley for the page three dance.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Matt H. on May 15, 2004, 11:08:59 AM
Would like to have THE MAD SHOW on CD, too.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: S. Woody White on May 15, 2004, 11:16:48 AM
I hadn't realized that the 1974 Candide wasn't on CD yet.  For some reason, this recording was my introduction to the score, instead of the OCR.  My college roommate at the time loved the novella by Voltaire, and was horrified to learn that someone had tried to make a musical of the work.  (Other than that, he was a fine roommate.)

I would still love to hear "Glitter and Be Gay" sung by Sam Ramey.

 ::) ;D
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: MBarnum on May 15, 2004, 11:22:11 AM
DRs Jose and Elmore3003, there is a LEVANT PLAYS GERSHWIN CD out that has the Rhapsody in Blue and Concerto in F, but leaves out the An American in Paris, probably because the latter is performed by Artur Rodzinski (conducting) instead of Levant.

I do have other versions of Rhapsody and American/Paris, but for old time sake I just would love to find this particular album on CD.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: elmore3003 on May 15, 2004, 11:22:31 AM
This topic of LP-CD brings up a wish as well; I swear my CDs of the Columbia-Lenya recordings of DIE DREIGROSCHENOPER and MAHAGONNY don't sound nearly as good as the old vinyls.  Can't they redo them at some point?

Another recording I'd like on CD is the Michael Valenti LOVESONG, which Bruce Yeko released on CD with alternate tracks by Christine Andreas, Judy Kaye, Jason Graae, etc., but it's all done with synthesized new orchestrations, and much as I like Christine's "April Child" I miss Melanie Chartoff's version with the chamber group.

DR MattH, your comment about missing TROY reminds me of a comment Bernstein made about MISS SAIGON:  After 15 minutes I realized there was no music, so I just enjoyed the production.  Besides Mr Bana, there are other good performances and visuals, and even though the screenplay credits THE ILIAD, a lot of the movie is indebted to other sources.  I forgot to mention how beautifully Julie Christie has aged and how nice it was to see a 50+ year-old actress who hasn't had her eyes pulled behind her ears in a desperate effort not to look her age.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Jay on May 15, 2004, 11:23:08 AM
I would still love to hear "Glitter and Be Gay" sung by Sam Ramey.

I'm afraid his E-flats above high C aren't what they used to be.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Jay on May 15, 2004, 11:25:45 AM
...how nice it was to see a 50+ year-old actress who hasn't had her eyes pulled behind her ears in a desperate effort not to look her age.

Ah, yes.  The "perpetually astonished" look.  You see a lot of that in the Hills of Beverly.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 15, 2004, 11:48:25 AM
I hadn't realized that the 1974 Candide wasn't on CD yet.  For some reason, this recording was my introduction to the score, instead of the OCR.  

Same here, and I'll readily admit that it's still my favorite recording of the show.

One of the problems with most of the two-disk vinyl recordings (like the 74 Candide)  was that the albums were pressed to accommodate stacking on turntables, so Side 1 and Side 4 were on one disk and Side 2 and Side 3 were on the other.  However, my early album buying days coincided with the arrival of my sister's state-of-the-art stereo and its non-stacking turntable.  Which meant that playing two-disk albums consisted of taking Disk 1 out of its sleeve, playing Side 1, putting Disk 1 back into its sleeve and taking out Disk 2 and playing Side 2 and 3, putting Disk 2 back into its sleeve and then going back to Disk 1 to play the final side.  True, it wasn't that much of an effort, but it seemed to me a waste of time.

Aside from an official release of the above mentioned Candide, Id also like to see CDs of the Public Theatre's Threepenny Opera (w/ Raul Julia), The Last Sweet Days of Isaac, Show Girl, the 76 My Fair Lady, and Berlin to Broadway with Kurt Weill.  I'd also like to have the soundtrack of the RSC's Nicholas Nickleby.

I would also wish for a release of For Colored Girls with all of the pieces in the show.  And a re-release of Over Here with the songs as they sound on the vinyl OCR and not the pop sounding cuts they used on the Sony Broadway CD.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: elmore3003 on May 15, 2004, 11:59:02 AM
 I'd also like to have the soundtrack of the RSC's Nicholas Nickleby.


DRDan, Nicholas Nickleby is on CD from Jay Records/TER.  Go to amazon.com; they have it.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Donna on May 15, 2004, 12:02:05 PM
Hello One and All and All and One!

I've been horribly errant and truant and today I can't stay but a few minutes (frown). Just wanted to drop by and say ...

1. Just finished reading " 'Tis Herself" by Maureen O'Hara. I recommend it highly. There are several revelations in it about John Ford and a surprising trait of Jimmy Stewart's. She tells of the gypsy woman who predicted her future and her horrible luck with husbands (including her last one who was the love of her life and who dies in an "accident" under mysterious circumstances). Did you know she was up for "The King & I" and "My Fair Lady?" Wouldn't she have been terrific in both.

2. Feinstein's at The Cinegrill here in Hollywood has reverted back to its original name, The Cinegrill. Michael is no longer associated with it. June 8 will be the grand re-opening and Cabaret West will host the evening to introduce the new management. There will be entertainment (Jason Graae is set to perform) and refreshments will be served. Read all about it on the Cabaret West website at http://www.cabaretwest.org.

Will try to pop in more often.

Take care of yourselves!
--Donna


Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: S. Woody White on May 15, 2004, 12:15:05 PM
Dear reader RPL,

There's a place near here that has Onion Soup for 8 euros, but they don't serve at 5:30 am. No way!
8 euros?! Oh mon dieu! just for onions that make one fart! :-\
Hey, you're FRENCH!  You should be PROUD of that fart!

 ;D
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: DearReaderLaura on May 15, 2004, 12:20:09 PM
DR Donna: Does that mean the prices at the Cinegrill will go back down? It was awfully expensive with Feinstein's name on it.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 12:22:42 PM
On location report #2 from bk: Interesting fact:  '42 grad of Hamilton High: Gwen Verdon
Attending today was Michele Dusick - who after graduating, changed her name to Michele Lee.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Jay on May 15, 2004, 12:25:51 PM
Dear Reader Jay,

No trapdoor under my chair here! Is there one under yours?

I know, I know... I'm not as sharp, witty, smart, etc, etc, as most of you!
I'm just French and touchy -- la faute de papa et maman!...

So... next time you see my name, just skip my prose! Make it easy on yourself!
Because I don't intend to refrain from posting here, sorry! ;)

I do it myself! Yes! it's not PC I know but I do.... and won't give names! Oh no!

I go back into my shell! :-[

???

I enjoy your posts tremendously, Dear Reader François de Paris.  It's just that your ultimate one last night seemed to end rather, uh, abruptly.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: François de Paris on May 15, 2004, 12:41:20 PM
Dear reader Jay,

.... you mean my Arthur Laurents short comment?
Oh I was just echoeing Dear reader S Woody White's innuendo regarding Gene Kelly's moody personality!

I wonder if Kelly's not my father???!
It's in the genes! ;)
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 12:42:38 PM
Now everybody shake hands and make nice. No rumble tonight.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: François de Paris on May 15, 2004, 12:53:19 PM
Say "how do you do?" and shake hands,
Shake hands, shake hands!
Say "how do you do?" and shake hands!
State your name and business!

What do you do on a saturday night... alone?

Rumble?
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: François de Paris on May 15, 2004, 12:55:01 PM
Michele? Peggy's sister?
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: François de Paris on May 15, 2004, 12:59:03 PM
Dear reader Panni  -- when I see your name I think of bread (pain, in French!)

You don't give us too much of a choice! :D
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Maya on May 15, 2004, 01:04:47 PM
Hello everyone!

I'm probably going to see "Troy" tonight with some friends, although so far the only review I've read (in EW) has criticized the film for losing the mythological elements of "The Iliad," and hence, some of the epic grandeur that could have been kept by having some gods and goddesses.  

BK--I absolutely adored "The Young Girls of Rochefort!!"  It just puts a song in your heart, the colors are wondrously ice creamy and cotton candyish, hehe, and I love Deneuve, Françoise Dorleac and of course Gene Kelly!

I have a few rare LPs, some of which I don't believe are on CD yet.

OCRs--Walking Happy, Happy Hunting, What Makes Sammy Run?, Say, Darling

Others--

Vivian Blaine--"For You"
Beatrice Lillie--"Sings the young Noel Coward, the young Arthur Schwartz and the young Howard Dietz"
Joel Grey--"Only the Beginning"
Gordon MacRae--"Only Love" (which includes songs from Zorba!, Dear World, Promises, Promises, Maggie Flynn, Her First Roman and The Fig Leaves Are Falling)

Well, folks, I'm leaving tomorrow for NYC with a friend, and I'll be there a week.  I'll be seeing Avenue Q, Jumpers, Forbidden Broadway and Wicked (again, at my friend's request).  I hope everyone has a great week in my E&Tness!

Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 01:05:54 PM
Donna, you do know that Guy Haines is available to perform at the event, and I'm available to help stage it, should you need such things.  I'm sure Mr. Graae will vouch for both Guy and me - after all, I gave him some funny bits for his act.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 01:06:13 PM
I'm just back briefly before heading off to the recording studio.  
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Jay on May 15, 2004, 01:09:29 PM
Dear reader Jay,

.... you mean my Arthur Laurents short comment?

Yep.  That was the one.  Was just trying to make a funny.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Jay on May 15, 2004, 01:10:51 PM
Now everybody shake hands and make nice. No rumble tonight.

Shake hands?  With a Frenchman?

Mais non!

Only a peck on each cheek will do!

Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 15, 2004, 01:14:16 PM
DRDan, Nicholas Nickleby is on CD from Jay Records/TER.  Go to amazon.com; they have it.

Ahh, very cool!  Thank you, kind sir.  I'll place that one in my shopping cart right now.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Jay on May 15, 2004, 01:14:37 PM
Donna, you do know that Guy Haines is available to perform at the event, and I'm available to help stage it, should you need such things.  I'm sure Mr. Graae will vouch for both Guy and me - after all, I gave him some funny bits for his act.

I know today is not Wednesday, but I do have a question.  When Mr. Guy Haines sings in public, does he do it from behind a screen?  Or is he veiled while he performs?
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 01:18:34 PM
Mr. Haines has only sung in public once, at the Lerner, Loewe, Lane and Friends STAGE benefit.  He was dazzling in white tie and tails doing Dance a Little Closer.  But the damn choreographer had all these girls with huge fans and they kept blocking Mr. Haines every time he'd face the audience.  Most annoying.  And then, when they finally got rid of the fans, they gave Mr. Haines a huge thing of balloons and those covered his face.  He was distraught.  He began popping them one by one until there was only one left.  But, just as he popped that the number ended and the lights blacked out.  DAMN!
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 15, 2004, 01:20:20 PM

Only a peck on each cheek will do!

Alright, mister!  I know I have a smutty mouth sometimes but this goes far beyond---

oh.  Never mind.  I misread that one...
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 15, 2004, 01:23:18 PM
Hello everyone!

I'm probably going to see "Troy" tonight with some friends, although so far the only review I've read (in EW) has criticized the film for losing the mythological elements of "The Iliad," and hence, some of the epic grandeur that could have been kept by having some gods and goddesses.  

BK--I absolutely adored "The Young Girls of Rochefort!!"  It just puts a song in your heart, the colors are wondrously ice creamy and cotton candyish, hehe, and I love Deneuve, Françoise Dorleac and of course Gene Kelly!

I have a few rare LPs, some of which I don't believe are on CD yet.

OCRs--Walking Happy, Happy Hunting, What Makes Sammy Run?, Say, Darling

Others--

Vivian Blaine--"For You"
Beatrice Lillie--"Sings the young Noel Coward, the young Arthur Schwartz and the young Howard Dietz"
Joel Grey--"Only the Beginning"
Gordon MacRae--"Only Love" (which includes songs from Zorba!, Dear World, Promises, Promises, Maggie Flynn, Her First Roman and The Fig Leaves Are Falling)

Well, folks, I'm leaving tomorrow for NYC with a friend, and I'll be there a week.  I'll be seeing Avenue Q, Jumpers, Forbidden Broadway and Wicked (again, at my friend's request).  I hope everyone has a great week in my E&Tness!

DR Maya, so wonderfully young and so wonderfully versed in musical theatre!  My hat's off to you!
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Danise on May 15, 2004, 01:26:36 PM
Hi all!  I've just come from meeting MB!   I'm soooo  excited!

I have one more concert tonight then I see him one last time, singing with the Mormon choir then I have to wing my way home.

I have TONS of lovely pictures and stories to share.

Gotta run--time is almost out!

Talk with you all when I get home!

Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 15, 2004, 01:29:56 PM
I dance with words:

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]SUMMER LIKE HEAT[/move]
[move=RIGHT,scroll,6,transparent,100%]MOWING A LAWN[/move]
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]A COOL SHOWER[/move]
[move=RIGHT,scroll,6,transparent,100%]BIRDS SINGING MADLY[/move]
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]ITALIAN HOGIE & CHERRY COKE[/move]
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: DearReaderLaura on May 15, 2004, 01:32:30 PM
If Guy Haines performs at the Cinegrill, I'm sure that DRs Sandra, Kerry, Jay, and myself will all be there.

Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 01:36:23 PM
This is the time of year when I'm deluged with DVD's and Tapes for Emmy voting. Some are wonderful, others (most) are - NOT. Today I did well. I got in the mail a full boxed set of ANGELS IN AMERICA,; JUDY GARLAND: BY MYSELF; ARTHUR MIILER, ELIA KAZAN AND THE BLACKLIST; Ken Burns' HORATIO'S DRIVE; THE LA PHILHARMONIC INAGURATES DISNEY HALL...and some other stuff. Not bad.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 01:38:00 PM
Go to that cabaret website and write DR Donna and tell her.  Let us begin the GH campaign now.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 01:38:11 PM
Like your dance, DanTM.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 01:39:09 PM
...On the other hand, yesterday I received the new GOODBYE GIRL.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 01:39:23 PM
And I'm thrilled that Feinstein is out of there.  I really abhor these little celebrity things, where the celebrity lends his name to something but has nothing really to do with it.  I, for one, am looking forward to the reemergence of the Cinegrill.  I only wish it were back upstairs where it was.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 01:41:30 PM
Mr. Haines has only sung in public once, at the Lerner, Loewe, Lane and Friends STAGE benefit.....But, just as he popped that the number ended and the lights blacked out.  DAMN!

Funny. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Jennifer on May 15, 2004, 01:48:14 PM
DR Panni, some of those sound good!  I would very much like to see Angels In America (but I don't get HBO).  And I am also curious about the new Goodbye Girl.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Jennifer on May 15, 2004, 01:49:36 PM
Lots of posts for a Saturday.

I love Krispy Kremes!

Only 6 left.

Although I only ate 2.

SO sweet.  But not too sweet for me. :)
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Jennifer on May 15, 2004, 01:51:51 PM
I went to Club Price this morning and the line at the cash was SO incredibly long.  I hate that.

Earlier went to the bank.  And next door at The Bay (department store) they had some new reduced jewelry (love it when it's 50% off and an extra 30% off).  They had the earrings, that match the necklace I got for my birthday.  I LOVE that.

Well I gotta run.  Making poutine.  And then I rented LOVE ACTUALLY.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Charles Pogue on May 15, 2004, 01:55:48 PM
Maya, wherever did you find the Gordon MaCrae album?  Sounds very interesting.  I have an album of his I just love that has a wide array of interesting songs (like I'll Remember April; June In January, Etc).  I seen a couple of others of his, but the song selection is rather tepid.

I think one can maintain both the Mythic and the Supernatural in the Troy story without resorting to actual depictions of the gods and keeping the gods presence and reality  only in the minds of the humans.  

I understand why the gods have been excised as actual characters.  Dramatically, heroes, be they tragic or not, must be responsible for their own actions.  If you take free will and free choice from them and have the gods bailing them out of this situation or the other, it creates all sorts of problems...First of all, the rules of magic become blurred...Why can a god do something in this instance, but not in another?  What is the immortality question of the gods, as they seem to get wounded, etc?  But mostly, their actual presence makes them looks like puppet masters and diminishes the will of the hero.  A hero must carve out his own destiny.  He must rise and fall by his own decisions.  If everything becomes the will of the gods or predestined by them, you dramatically castrate your human characters and the drama as a whole.

The thing I always hated in the Harryhausen movies was the gods sitting up in Olympus playing chess with the fates of Jason or Perseus.  A hero makes his own fate.

That still doesn't mean you can't have prophecies and soothsayers and strange supernatural creatures like Centaurs or Satyrs or Cyclops, etc. But once you take the gods out of the minds of the characters and make them real characters, you diminish your human characters.

Again, if one reads the myths behind the myths and the origins of this stuff you find out how many interesting variants there are on it.  Robert Graves for me has been an indespensible source...both with my Trojan thing and my Hercules project at NBC. What's wonderful about the myths is sometimes they just give you a story or an incident and you must find a dramatically compelling way to motivate it.  Just like the Greek playwrights did.

Prime example:  I was watching Oedipus Rex the other day.  The presence of the gods as interpreted and being a part of the characters' daily lives is palpaple and real.  But not one god appears in the play.  But the whole thing is rich with the inevitability of prophecy and tinged with the supernatural.  But remains a distinctly compelling human drama.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: François de Paris on May 15, 2004, 01:58:55 PM
For those who need their Julie Andrews fix!

From www.oprah.com

.....Julie Andrews, legendary star of stage and screen, is the final member of Shrek 2's star-studded cast to join the party. In the film, she plays Princess Fiona's mother, the Queen of Far, Far Away.

"I'm so thrilled to be part of this family," Julie said. "Oh, they're grand!"

Unlike the rest of the cast, Julie had some company while recording some of her dialogue. "I'm the only one that got to spend one day with somebody else in the booth. John Cleese plays my husband, the king, and for one magical day, he and I got to play in the booth and sort of wing things back and forth. It was very helpful. The other days I had to do it on my own."

What's been the best part of the whole experience for Julie? "I think that I've just gone up like crazy in my grandchildren's estimation!" she laughed.
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: elmore3003 on May 15, 2004, 01:58:59 PM
Well, I'm frustrated!  I've been waiting for the post all day, hoping the FINE AND DANDY recording would be in the mail.  Well, my regular postman's off today, I have no idea where his replacement is, and there's no sign of a package.  Now that it's after 5:00 pm EST, I doubt I'll hear it before Monday (if it arrives!).  DAMN!!!
DOUBLE DAMN!!!
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: François de Paris on May 15, 2004, 02:00:43 PM
I'd like to unmake Poutine!

but that's another story!!
Title: Re:THE TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE
Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 02:03:47 PM
I was going to see GLOOMY SUNDAY last night, but didn't feel like going out. I decided to see it today at 1:30, but got busy writing and missed it. I'm gloomy about not seeeing GLOOMY SUNDAY. :'(
The title, BTW, refers to the "Suicide Song"...Legend has it that hundreds of people have committed suicide while listening to this little ditty, written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezsõ Seress (music) and László Jávor (lyrics). It consisted of the first two stanzas only -- the last stanza was added later – I think to cheer people up.
 
Here is one version of the English lyrics as  sung by Sarah Brightman. (Hide the razors and pills.)

Gloomy Sunday

Sunday is gloomy
My hours are slumberless
Dearest the shadows
I live with are numberless
Little white flowers
Will never awaken you
Not where the black coach
Of sorrow has taken you
Angels have no thought
Of ever returning you
Would they be angry
If I thought of joining you
Gloomy Sunday

Sunday is gloomy
With shadows I spend it all
My heart and I have decided
To end it all
Soon there'll be flowers and prayers
That are said I know
But let them not weep
Let them know
That I'm glad to go
Death is no dream
For in death I'm caressing you
With the last breath of my soul
I'll be blessing you
Gloomy Sunday

Dreaming
I was only dreaming
I wake and I find you asleep
In the deep of my heart dear
Darling I hope
That my dream never haunted you
My heart is telling you
How much I wanted you
Gloomy Sunday
Gloomy Sunday

music: Reszõ Seress
lyrics: László Jávor / Sam M. Lewis


 
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 15, 2004, 02:06:56 PM
Pogue does the Greeks.  As Haemon in Antigone (Anouilh's)
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Post by: Charles Pogue on May 15, 2004, 02:11:37 PM
Gloomy Sunday with those lyrics has been around since the forties at least.  My father had a 78 of this song with a girl singing it.  I can't remember the band.  I want to say Artie Shaw, but he so rarely used singers on his stuff.  Though I don't remember the dreaming verse.
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Post by: Jay on May 15, 2004, 02:21:13 PM
It's curious to me that the film is being presented here in the U.S. with the title of Gloomy Sunday.  The German title is Ein Lied von Liebe und Tod.  I'm no German scholar, but I do believe that translates as "A Song of Love and Death," a far more apt and descriptive title for the film than "Gloomy Sunday."
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Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 02:29:21 PM
Gloomy Sunday with those lyrics has been around since the forties at least.  My father had a 78 of this song with a girl singing it.  I can't remember the band.  I want to say Artie Shaw, but he so rarely used singers on his stuff.  Though I don't remember the dreaming verse.

As I said in my post, it was written in the 30's. The dreaming verse was added later on.
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 02:33:09 PM
"Gloomy Sunday": Great versions by Billie Holiday and Sinead O"Connor. Interesting version - Toni Fisher (Thanks M Barnum).
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 02:34:27 PM
It may be gloomy Sunday here - I am going to see a local production of "Les Miserables".(today of course)
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 02:42:47 PM
A mini frenzy: "Angels in America" is at last to get a showing on OZ TV. Advertising started this week so I guess it will be in June.

Speaking of "OZ". The TV series has just started here - I've watched the first two episodes - I find it annoying rather than confronting. Does it improve?
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Post by: JMK on May 15, 2004, 02:44:40 PM
DR Maya:  Walking Happy and What Makes Sammy Run? are indeed available on CD.   In fact, I think some of us mentioned here eons ago that after ordering Sammy directly from Steve and Eydie, we somehow got on their private email distribution and were party to all sorts of contract negotiations for a gig in Hawaii.  It was quite funny.
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Post by: Maya on May 15, 2004, 02:50:21 PM
DR Maya, so wonderfully young and so wonderfully versed in musical theatre!  My hat's off to you!

Awww, thanks, Dan!  I've just been exceedingly dorky since my early teens, but I wouldn't want it any other way!  ;)

Maya, wherever did you find the Gordon MaCrae album?  Sounds very interesting.  I have an album of his I just love that has a wide array of interesting songs (like I'll Remember April; June In January, Etc).  I seen a couple of others of his, but the song selection is rather tepid.


I honestly can't remember just where I found it.  I lived in NYC for a year when I went to acting school, but I always used to peruse used record stores for cheap rare theatre music.  I found it at one of those, though I can't for the life of me recall which one.  The one you have sounds great too!

I agree to some extent with your thoughts on "Troy,"  but I also think that by excising the gods, you do lose some of what made "The Iliad" so powerful.  I DO think it is possible though to somehow integrate touches of mythology without the heroes surrendering free will.  If anything, I think the battle between free will and fate that so often occurs in Greek mythology is fascinating and dramatic.  I'll let you know my thoughts on the movie when I get back!

Loved the "Antigone" pic, btw!

Thanks for letting me know about the CDs, JMK, I wasn't sure!  :)
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Post by: Matt H. on May 15, 2004, 02:55:21 PM
DR Maya, HAPPY HUNTING is on CD. In fact there's a joke about it being on CD in LOVE! VALOUR! COMPASSION!

DR Elmore, I understand your point, and DR RLP has voiced the same opinion about judging and appreciating TROY as is as opposed to what I would wish it to be.

The point is, I wouldn't be interested in a battle film even with these breathtakingly beautiful men as focal points. It was the mythological elements of the story as they appeared in THE ILLIAD, the consistent roles that the deities played in the war as told in that version of the story, that gave it any interest to me. If I only want to see it for the gorgeous near-naked men on display, well, I can wait a year and see it on HBO since I'm already paying for it, and save my $10 for something else I'd get more esthetic pleasure from.
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Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 02:56:13 PM
...I think the suicide aspect of the song is more urban myth than reality. Although I do remember when I was little in Hungary (not in the '30's - I'm not THAT old) my mother talking about the song and the people who killed themselves while listening to it. I used to imagine these people slowly sailing off tall buildings while sad music played. I've actually always beeen rather fascinated by suicide - from a very young age. In my genes perhaps.
I'll let Dorothy Parker have the last word:

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

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Post by: Noel on May 15, 2004, 03:01:18 PM
I lived in NYC for a year when I went to acting school,

DR Maya, what acting school did you attend?
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Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 03:02:58 PM
I'm actually having fun today just sitting around, doing my writing, posting once in a while (pretty often actually) ... It's kinda cozy having nothing special to do. I guess the rest of the world must be doing fun things out there... It IS the weekend.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 15, 2004, 03:02:59 PM
This is the time of year when I'm deluged with DVD's and Tapes for Emmy voting. Some are wonderful, others (most) are - NOT. Today I did well. I got in the mail a full boxed set of ANGELS IN AMERICA,; JUDY GARLAND: BY MYSELF; ARTHUR MIILER, ELIA KAZAN AND THE BLACKLIST; Ken Burns' HORATIO'S DRIVE; THE LA PHILHARMONIC INAGURATES DISNEY HALL...and some other stuff. Not bad.
Add the Miller/Kazan documentary to our list of a few days back.  I thought it was very interesting, and even-handed in dealing with these two confrontational men.
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Post by: Sandra on May 15, 2004, 03:09:54 PM
Still have nothing to say. Still waiting for my grades.
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Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 03:13:31 PM
GOOD GRADE VIBES, SANDRA!
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 15, 2004, 03:16:16 PM
DR Sandra, are any of your classmates also still waiting for their grades to be posted?

Vibes to everything being better than you expect!

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Post by: Sandra on May 15, 2004, 03:26:26 PM
I don't know about my classmates, but I would guess so. And thanks for the vibes Panni and S. Woody.
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 03:27:58 PM
Best wishes Sandra - is there anyone you can telephone about the results. Things do go wrong!
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Post by: Sandra on May 15, 2004, 03:47:59 PM
No, it's just that my teachers are taking their time figuring up the grades. My English teacher must be the hold-up. Let me describe her for you. Turquoise cowboy boots, an outfit I'm sure was a reject from the wardrobe of Mama Mia, earrings you could use as windchimes, and two-toned hair an eagle could nest in.
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 03:51:31 PM
No doubt you will all be interested to know that the Eurovison Song contest - the contest that gave us Abba and Celien Dion as winners - has just finished and was won by the Ukrainian entry "Wild Dances". Second was the entry from Serbia-Montenegro with the Greek entry coming in third. The contest was held in Istanbul and I assume will move to Kiev next year.
If you don't "knowfrom  Eurovison" think "Love Is Blue", "Volare" and "Waterloo". In past years the UK has been represented by songs performed by Olivia Newton John, Cliff Richard, Michael Ball and Lulu.  Colm Wilkinson sang for Ireland one year. Tommy Koeberg has represented Sweden and Frances Ruffel has sung for the UK. Norwegian group "Secret Garden are from Eurovision.
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 04:11:10 PM
I assume everyone has left so that they can search data base sites for all the wonders of Eurovison Song contests since 1956.
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 04:38:28 PM
I am listening to the Swiss entry this year which had 0 votes in the semi final! "Celebrate and clap your hands - have a wonderful time -  the world is a beautiful place"  are I think all that is sung over and over and over and over and over.
I am absolutely my own posting frenzy today. A dialogue with myself.
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Post by: François de Paris on May 15, 2004, 04:44:19 PM
Well; I had left to search the results for you Dear Reader Tomovoz BUT you obviously found them way before me!

I have to say that at the same time I had to fight the next door Parisian songcontest provided by our neighbouring bar that now pretends it's a night club that spreads unto the sidewalk....

Ahhhh, les vicissitudes de la vie communautaire!
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Post by: François de Paris on May 15, 2004, 04:46:47 PM
"The world is a beautiful place"???????????

No wonder they got 0!

What a Wonderful World, hey?

Only in Switzerland, hiddedle dee dee!
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Post by: François de Paris on May 15, 2004, 04:50:37 PM
I heard that the Disney entry -- from Disneyland, Paris, of course! -- after all, it's the European Song Contest.... -- was:

It's A Small World............ but I believe someone was pulling my leg!

That should make Dear Reader Pogue very happy!
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Post by: Jed on May 15, 2004, 04:55:32 PM
How I despise job hunting.  Wretched task, it is.  Did get in another 10-12 applications in this afternoon, though.  Now just need something to come from one of 'em.
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 04:56:58 PM
"0" votes for EuroDisney.
Andora and Monaco competed this year. Next year maybe "Vatican City" will be there. Lichtenstein (sp!)has not competed but Luxemburg and Monaco have both produced winners.
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 04:59:55 PM
Good luck out there Jed. People don't seen to realise the time and cost involved in preparing resumés that must be appropriate to certain criteria. The people looking for jobs are so often the least able to afford the costs of the application. Catch 22 or whatever.
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 05:05:38 PM
I ate two Popeye's chicken breasts.

The recording session went fine - I was in the room for less than two minutes to sing my little bit.  I gather everyone else was taking quite a bit of time as they weren't used to the studio.  It was one of those little home-grown places that I abhor, but I sang my little bit and they liked it and I got right out of there.
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Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 05:09:54 PM
Factoid about Popey's chicken: There's some Adam Sandler movie I was told about - some movie in which he's the son of the devil (Little Mike?) - in which they talk about Popeye's chicken quite often. When it was shown on Fox, the word "Popeye's" wasn't used and whenever the box was shown it was blurry.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 15, 2004, 05:13:41 PM
My English teacher must be the hold-up. Let me describe her for you. Turquoise cowboy boots, an outfit I'm sure was a reject from the wardrobe of Mama Mia, earrings you could use as windchimes, and two-toned hair an eagle could nest in.
She's probably too busy watching the EuroVision Song Contest for fashion tips, so don't expect the grades 'til that's over.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 15, 2004, 05:14:34 PM
Factoid about Popey's chicken: There's some Adam Sandler movie I was told about - some movie in which he's the son of the devil (Little Mike?) - in which they talk about Popeye's chicken quite often. When it was shown on Fox, the word "Popeye's" wasn't used and whenever the box was shown it was blurry.
Product placement turns into product displacement.
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 15, 2004, 05:16:29 PM
Corned beef brisket tonight, simmering away in the dutch oven with some onions, carrots, and celery.  I'll add more carrots and celery, some cabbage, and taters later, since I don't want those to overcook.  (The first batch of veg is for flavor.)
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 05:18:19 PM
I used to look at "Product Placement" as part of the Business Management course I taught. The students really became very good at spotting the products - particularly on TV shows. "Friends" used to do it quite often. I guess "Queer Eye" has now taken it to the extreme. It really is an advertisement packaged as entertainment.
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 05:22:28 PM
I'm very logey right now.  Logey = low key.  Low key = logey.  
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 15, 2004, 05:25:25 PM
What a lot of interesting posts!
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 05:30:53 PM
Donna, Mr. Haines is awaiting his closeup.
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 05:31:21 PM
Do you know if we all posted fifty posts in the next minute we'd break all LPs?
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 05:32:03 PM
I need my second wind.  My first wind is gone.  Yes, Virginia, my first wind is gone and I, for one, say gone with the wind.

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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 05:32:13 PM
And one for Mahler.
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 05:32:28 PM
And you thought I was kidding with the fifty posts.
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Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 05:42:57 PM
I think the Fates are against my seeing GLOOMY SUNDAY. I was going to go to the evening showing, but I feel less than stellar and may just stay close to home. I'm not stellar by starlight.
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Post by: TCB on May 15, 2004, 07:02:41 PM
DR Michael Shayne - if you check the painting of the Lake in yesterday's notes - Tekapo is near Mt Cook. The lake is the most amazing blue - glacial waters from the Tasman glacier I think. I think the hobbits go to the Church pictured.

So, if it is a Catholic Church, do the Sisters wear hobbits?
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Post by: Matt H. on May 15, 2004, 07:10:42 PM
After watching LOVER COME BACK tonight, I decided to go in another direction and plucked off the unwatched DVD shelf the John Badham DRACULA. I remember when it first came out that there was much moaning and groaning because he desaturated the color in the DVD release supposedly because this was the way he had wanted it done for its theatrical release, but Universal had insisted that it not be printed that way. They supposedly gave in on the DVD version.

I didn't really care one way or other about that. I was just disappoinbted that it wasn't an anamorphic transfer.
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Post by: George on May 15, 2004, 07:13:20 PM
I've been trying to think of records that I own (or not) that have never been released on CD and I can't think of any that haven't already been mentioned.  I was going to look through my records, but I have too many boxes of stuff in front of them, so I can't even go through them.  I used to have an Excel file of all of my recorded musicals, but it was lost when I lost my computer a couple of months ago (which had better not happen again, is all I can say!)

So there.  I wanted to at least pop in and say "Hi!"  I was at work earlier and caught up on reading the posts, but I didn't have time to actually post until now.

And since I can't think of any records, I really don't have anything else to say.  So, I'll now go back to the house where I'm house sitting and water the lawn.  Even though it's overcast and it looks like it's going to rain, it hasn't yet.  Good day to all!
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Post by: TCB on May 15, 2004, 07:27:43 PM
Hello everyone!


I have a few rare LPs, some of which I don't believe are on CD yet.

OCRs--Walking Happy, Happy Hunting, What Makes Sammy Run?, Say, Darling

Others--

Vivian Blaine--"For You"
Beatrice Lillie--"Sings the young Noel Coward, the young Arthur Schwartz and the young Howard Dietz"
Joel Grey--"Only the Beginning"
Gordon MacRae--"Only Love" (which includes songs from Zorba!, Dear World, Promises, Promises, Maggie Flynn, Her First Roman and The Fig Leaves Are Falling)



Honey, when it comes to Bea Lillie -- she could have sung the young Moses!



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Post by: TCB on May 15, 2004, 07:36:42 PM
I'd like to unmake Poutine!

but that's another story!!

Isn't she the young girl in Les Miserables?
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Post by: Tomovoz on May 15, 2004, 07:41:27 PM
So, if it is a Catholic Church, do the Sisters wear hobbits?
No! the hobbits wear sisters.
Thanks for the smile Tom :)
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Post by: TCB on May 15, 2004, 07:48:47 PM
I ate two Popeye's chicken breasts.


Are Popeye's chicken breasts cooked in Olive Oyl?
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 08:11:26 PM
Trying to decide on tonight's fillum - I'm thinking Captain Kronos, Vampire Hunter.  Maybe.  Maybe not.
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Post by: François de Paris on May 15, 2004, 08:12:58 PM
Oh, I know which Lps I'd like to have "cidified":

Rose-Marie 1958 RCA LOP 1001 (RD-27143 in UK)

A studio recording of this classic operetta made in London in July 1958, with Julie Andrews and Giorgio Tozzi... The STEREO version, needless to say!

High Tor 1956 Decca DL 8272

A Combination of the studio recording and the original soundtrack from the CBS-TV special. (Julie Andrews, Bing Crosby)

Julie & Carol at Lincoln Centre 1971 Columbia S-31153

Original soundtrack recording of the CBS-TV special Julie and Carol Burnett's second television special together.
 
See a link there??

and... Lehman Engels conducting many Overtures of musicals.....

and that divoon CAROUSEL studio recording starring Roberta Peters and Alfred Drake.....
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Post by: François de Paris on May 15, 2004, 08:15:30 PM
Popeye's chicken breasts are cooked with.... panache!

-- No groaning, please! --

I'm not as witty as Dear reader TCB, sorry... but I'm trying! I'm trying!
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Post by: Michael on May 15, 2004, 08:15:30 PM
Is the french cd release of Who's Afraid of Virgina Woolfe? The one with Uta Hagen or the film soundtrack with music by Alex North and dialogue "highlights" from Taylor, Burton, Dennis and Segal
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 15, 2004, 08:53:13 PM
Good Evening!

Well, the A/C in the theatre seemed to be working better during the matinee... however, during the evening show it was starting to get a bit warm again... ah, well... It's supposed to cool down outside next week, so that will help inside.  *We also had another sparsely audienced matinee, so with less people in the theatre, less people making heat, so... Ah, well....

-Currently watching "Trading Spaces" - I guess tonight's episode will be called the "Black and White" episode... Hmmm....

I joined some of the other men and women - well, woman - in the pit for dinner between shows.  We headed over to Chinatown... and went to an Indian restaurant!  I was actually familiar with the place - well, it's original location in suburban Virginia - and in it's original incarnation, it used to be an Italian and Indian restaurant.  They didn't mix the two cuisines together - they just had two sides to the menu.  -And it was quite extensive...  But I digress.  The food was very good, but the service took a long time - and we were the first people in there for dinner.  And their prices were a bit high, imho.  But it was nice hanging out with the "pit", and it was a good meal.  -And I had some pretty wonderful Indian rice pudding for dessert!  Yummy!

OK - Time for some snacks.. potato chips and ice cream!!

:)
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 08:54:33 PM
It's the film soundtrack by North with the dialogue snippets.
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 08:56:21 PM
I may have to call the pest control people again - I can't believe it.  No, we don't have eau de rodent morte, but we do have a preponderence of bluebottle flies in my bedroom - I just killed twelve of them, slowly and with pleasure.  I don't know where they're coming from, and I suppose they could be a residual of the dead rodent, although why they suddenly appear today when they haven't made an appearance in three weeks is a mystery.
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Post by: TCB on May 15, 2004, 09:08:13 PM
Popeye's chicken breasts are cooked with.... panache!

-- No groaning, please! --

I'm not as witty as Dear reader TCB, sorry... but I'm trying! I'm trying!

Thank you DR François for the compliment, but I don’t really think I am very witty.  I am probably more closely aligned with one of those hypothetical monkeys that, when locked in a room with a typewriter, would eventually produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare.  That’s me.  I figure, if I throw out enough one-liners, eventually something is going to make each and everyone of you smile.
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Post by: TCB on May 15, 2004, 09:12:02 PM
I may have to call the pest control people again - I can't believe it.  No, we don't have eau de rodent morte, but we do have a preponderence of bluebottle flies in my bedroom - I just killed twelve of them, slowly and with pleasure.  I don't know where they're coming from, and I suppose they could be a residual of the dead rodent, although why they suddenly appear today when they haven't made an appearance in three weeks is a mystery.

The Amittyville Horror
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Post by: François de Paris on May 15, 2004, 09:22:50 PM
Yes, you do make us smile Dear Reader TCB, and we sure do need it in this day and age.....

Ah!
Dear reader Jose and his food and music! There's so much to feed on his pots and posts and pans and piano...

Stop -- pots backwards! -- me!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 15, 2004, 09:27:37 PM
Hmmmm.. And for my aforementioned "nostalgia strip".... Hmmm... I have no idea where that came from...

-well, one of the guys in the show did win an underwear contest last night at one of the bars downtown, so... Hmm.... ;)
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 09:29:27 PM
I thought the Dick Van Dyke and Carol Burnett things were going to be rerun tonight.  That's what people here said.  They most certainly were not rerun, not that I can see, unless they were on some channel that I don't know.
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Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 09:34:01 PM
No flies to report in my bedroom.
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Post by: TCB on May 15, 2004, 09:35:13 PM
I thought the Dick Van Dyke and Carol Burnett things were going to be rerun tonight.  That's what people here said.  They most certainly were not rerun, not that I can see, unless they were on some channel that I don't know.

The only thing that I saw being rerun tonight was the first HARRY POTTER film.  Hmm...the third film opens when?
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Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 09:35:17 PM
I tried to find Dick Van D, too. All I found was wall-to-wall Law and Order.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on May 15, 2004, 10:22:06 PM
Well, I'm tired.. and sleepy... and, unlike last night, I think I will actually go to bed now instead of later...

Goodnight.
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 10:23:07 PM
Wussburgers are a comin'.  Not I, said the bk to the fly.  I shall be here posting until the cows come home.
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Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 10:36:33 PM
Theory: (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-016.gif)
Maybe the last batch of flies laid eggs which hatched today.
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 10:42:07 PM
How DARE they.  And when does it end?  I'm bored of all this stuff.
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Post by: George on May 15, 2004, 11:00:35 PM
As well you should be BK. ::)

Anyway, I know it's not Wednesday, but I have a question.  Has anyone heard anything about the new releases of the "West Side Story" and "A Star Is Born" soundtracks?  They're both being released on May 18th.  I don't have any recording of "ASIB" (which I do plan to get) but I have the last "WSS" CD release (which, according to amazon.com, was released in 1992).  Any reasons why one should have this new release if one already has the old?  Does anyone know if the sound is better or is it that there is more music than previous releases?  Just curious.
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Post by: Panni on May 15, 2004, 11:05:40 PM
I'm wussing out early tonight. Feeling a tad under the weather. (Does anyone ever feel OVER the weather?)
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Post by: George on May 15, 2004, 11:12:18 PM
I'm wussing out early tonight. Feeling a tad under the weather. (Does anyone ever feel OVER the weather?)

Somewheeeere over the weather! ;D
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 15, 2004, 11:15:03 PM
Isn't she the young girl in Les Miserables?
No, that's Bea Lillie again...in the original, at least.  (Amazing what a tube of greasepaint could do in those days.)
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Post by: S. Woody White on May 15, 2004, 11:17:46 PM
Somehow, I actually managed to undercook the corned beef brisket.  I could have sworn that I left it in long enough, but it was still a bit on the tough side.  The veg and taters came out great, however, and I've lots of braising liquid to strain and save for the next time.  (Many people don't know that braising liquid can be re-used, and packs more flavor with each successive usage.)

But der Brucer was happy.
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Post by: bk on May 15, 2004, 11:35:33 PM
I'm waiting for reports on those remasters.  
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Post by: TCB on May 15, 2004, 11:43:47 PM
***NEWS ALERT FROM TACOMA***

All of the city's cows have officially returned home.  Grateful citizens can now say........ Good Night![/b]