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Title: TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 16, 2004, 11:59:55 PM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes were the bomb, you've discerned the topic of the day, and now you are ready to make with the excellent postings.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 12:16:11 AM
Topic of the Day: The Nutcracker, Christmas Day,  the Opera House in Budapest. I was two years old. I still have the ticket with my father's writing (in Hungarian) on the back. "Panni's first theater - The Nutcracker Russian ballet. She behaved like an adult."
I remember leaning over the red plush velvet of the box railing, being totally transported and wanting with all my being to be in that magic world on stage. I was SO excited, so happy. And I absolutely decided at that moment to be a ballerina, which everntually changed to actress. Which is what I did from age 14 until 25, when I became a writer.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jrand73 on May 17, 2004, 12:21:35 AM
Lovely story.

I say bomb the flies...but unless you find the source - in three weeks more flies!  I think....I don't know.  I am NO Fly Man.

As I have written before - so if you read it before, skip this - I was sitting in the movie theatre in Plainfield Indiana - and suddenly Rosalind Russell sang something that made me sit up:

Some people sit on their butts
Got the dream - yea - but not the guts......

And I realized that I could sit a think about being an actor or a writer or a dancer for years and years, but unless I went out and did something about it, the dream would never happen.

It didn't completely happen, but anything I dreamed and TRIED to accomplish at least didn't stay just a DREAM!  And I have acted, written, and danced...and not sat on my butt instead.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Tomovoz on May 17, 2004, 12:27:31 AM
The Enid Blyton books no doubt introduced me to a love of fantasy (and I still enjoy Childrens books).
"Kismet" introduced me to the world of theatre. Hard to have defining moments in music tastes but I think my music teachers at School (When I was about 15) really introduced me to classical music with "The Moldau" which I still love and of course felt so good about actually seeing the river in Prague a few years ago.  
First film I remember seeing as a child was "The Daughter Of Rosie O'Grady". The film that really made me appreciate film as an art form was "Lawrence Of Arabia". I did however love earlier films of course and never tire of "Carousel" which I guess I saw at an impressionable age.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 12:40:29 AM
My aunt - who was this neurotic Communist intellectual, used to take me to the opera as a child whenever her husband couldn't go. And not just Hansel and Gretel - I remember seeing Bluebeard's Castle when I was around 5 (second time I've mentioned that tonight - weird). I don't remember which specific opera made the biggest impression - might have been La Boheme or Madame Butterfly - but I still tear up when I hear certain selections from them. I wanted my life set to music from an early age because of those incredible experiences.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 12:42:46 AM
Okay, perhaps the music of my life right now should be Brahms' Lullaby. G'night.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 12:45:51 AM
Benjamin Kritzer was highly impacted by The Moldau, too.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 12:46:50 AM
Welcome seven GUESTS.  Tell us what things were life-changers for you.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 12:47:12 AM
Who knew?  4400 posts.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: S. Woody White on May 17, 2004, 01:17:02 AM
I can't really think of anything that changed my life as a child.  However, as an adult I had an epiphanal moment while reading Edmund White's States of Desire.

The book is a collection of essays, covering White's travels across America from one large metropolis to the next, always focusing on the gay community in whatever area the chapter is about.  Originally published in 1980 (or thereabouts), it's totally dated now, of course, but it sure had an immediacy when I first read it.

That I first read it shortly after the fag-bashing incident that left me with a broken shoulder and nose was a key element in this story.

The passage that changed a lot of my life dealt with Miami, shortly after the referendum in that city to repeal gay rights.  White wrote about how a survey was taken after that election, where the pollsters asked the voters whether they had voted for the repeal, and if they had whether or not they knew anyone who was gay.  The vast majority of people responding replied that they didn't know any gay people, and most of those who did know someone who was gay could only identify the stereotypical flaming queen, such as their hairdresser.

My wheels started cranking around.  I was not a "flaming" anything, and yet had been bashed for being gay, and damn near killed.  And here in the Miami poll was evidence that most people didn't have a clue about how many gay people were around them.  People were judging me for what I was, without knowing what that really was.  Well, the obvious conclusion that I came to was that more of us should be out of the closet, so that the general population could find out the truth about us.

There was just one problem.  Who, exactly, was "more of us?"  It's a nice thing to say, but at the time (1980, or thereabouts) not too many people were actually doing it.  And that was when I realized that I couldn't expect anyone to come out for me.  It was something I would have to do on my own.

And that's exactly what I did.  I went to the office I was assigned to at the time, and stopped pretending to be straight.  Some people were upset by my decision, more because they weren't comfortable with my honesty than my being gay.  And there were, over the years I spent with that company (a grand total of twenty-three), a handful who were openly hostile, but only a handful.  For the most part, my co-workers were glad to have someone around who they could ask questions on subjects they couldn't ask their priest.  And I never regretted my decision.

Well, almost never.  The catch was that, in all those years, no one else ever came out as well.  Anyone else that I worked with who was gay was quite content to have me be the one who stood up, representing them while they stayed silent.  It was understandable early on, but by the time we hit the year 2000 I would have expected someone else to raise their hand and say hello.

Then again, I've never quite understood why I was also the only one who would refer to my other half by name in conversation, while everyone else referred to "my husband" or "my wife" or "my girlfriend" or "boyfriend," never by name.  They could ask "How's der Brucer doing?" while I was stuck with replying "Fine, and how's...uh...whoozit?"  But that's a whole different issue.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jrand73 on May 17, 2004, 01:17:17 AM
Heading toward my 3000!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: S. Woody White on May 17, 2004, 01:19:08 AM
Benjamin Kritzer was highly impacted by The Moldau, too.
Now that's just plain silly!  The Benjamin Kritzer books are NOT moldy!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Michael on May 17, 2004, 03:32:42 AM
Really good questions today and I wish that I had answer for them.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Ben on May 17, 2004, 05:31:05 AM
Quote from Jane yesterday evening/early morning

I don’t know about scarier, but Ben was definitely cuter.

Aw, Jane, thanks. How sweet. And we haven't even met
 ;)

George, I think it was you over the weekend who asked about the release of A Star is Born (which will happen tomorrow along with the release of West Side Story).

According to my source, ASIB will use the original cover art and have 24 tracks including dialogue bits as well as the Trinidad Coconut Oil Shampoo commerical (which we hear in the restored version. There are stills added to show some of the visuals). There is a also a track for When My Sugar Walks Down the Street which was cut from the Born in a Trunk sequence. It sounds like the most definitive recording we will get. I'm disappointed that they won't be doing a bigger push, since it is the 50th anniversary of the film. Oh, well. I'll take what I can get.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Matt H. on May 17, 2004, 05:42:56 AM
Last night DR Panni wrote: "Box office report: In spite of the terrible reviews TROY did well this weekend. 45.6 million. (Of course that's a drop in the bucket compared to what it cost.)"


Your second comment is the salient one. The producers have to be very, very disappointed with this figure. Quite obviously, the movie will not make its money back (or anywhere near it) from the US/Canada box-office. Hopefully, like THE LAST SAMURAI, it will do much better in Europe and Asia than it is doing here. But for a movie that cost $200 million (or more), and will thus need $350 million (or more) to break even, these numbers are not encouraging.

Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Noel on May 17, 2004, 05:46:43 AM
My young life was spent tilting at windmills.  I was always railing at some perceived injustice, often trying to get some teacher removed or reprimanded.  So, when I discovered Man of a La Mancha, I found plenty to identify with.  It convinced me that there's a certain nobility to unrequited love, and unrequited love is just what I got.  12-13-14 and up I wanted so badly to experience romance.  Or a kiss.  A kiss would be nice.  But Don Quixote refused to pity himself when he didn't have Dulcinea's affection.  And that taught me something or other.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Ben on May 17, 2004, 06:05:41 AM
Noel, how was the performance last night? Sorry I couldn't make it but both yesterday evening and tonight are booked. Hope it goes well today.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: William E. Lurie on May 17, 2004, 06:23:43 AM
Instead of a new "Troy" why can't they reissue the one with Rosanna Posada (I might be spelling it wrong).  I can't see Brad Pitt as Helen of Troy at all.

And wasn't there a musical called "Helen of Troy,  New York".
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: elmore3003 on May 17, 2004, 07:03:11 AM
Good morning, all!  I slept late because I stayed up late reading DR Penny O's book, JEWISH THIGHS ON BROADWAY; I glossed through it to get to the Kritzer books, as I promised my good friend BK, and now I'm just enjoying her account of her protagonist's desperate climb to the middle.  It's very funny and I recommend it highly.  I don't know if the G&S group really is the late LOOM, warts and all, but I'm having a good tme.

TOD:  oh, God, so many to acknowledge!  I feel like an Oscar winner just as the exit music starts.  
Movies:
Disney animation from the early 1950s:  ALICE IN WONDERLAND, PETER PAN, LADY AND THE TRAMP:  for years I wanted to be a Disney animator
HANSEL AND GRETEL (1954), which I still hold dear, was probably my introduction to opera and Anna Russell's witch is my first brush at age 8 with high camp; incidentally the producer of this film, Michael Myerberg, was the producer on Broadway of THE SKIN OF OUR TEETH with Tallulah Bankhead, Frederic March, and Montgomery Clift.
Film versions of stage musicals:  got me thinking, why did they cut this song or why did they replace this number?
Theatre:
Middletown, Ohio, in the 1950s for a lower middleclass boy, was a wasteland.
Music:
Little Golden Records were an obsession, and one source of my reading education at age 3-4 was the record label.  My favorite Little Golden Record was two excerpts from SWAN LAKE:  the dance of the little swans and the main theme (I believe).  My first recording passion was Khatchaturian's "Sabre Dance."  Popular songs I liked the best in the 50s were the novelty numbers like "Witch Doctor" and "The Purple People Eater," but since my Mother sang a lot of novelty songs from the 30s and 40s like "Mairzy Doats" and "Three Little Fishes," it's probably genetic.   I remember listening to "Kisses Sweeter than Wine" and thinking, what the fat hell does this mean?
Television:
I LOVE LUCY, a show I recall fondly but never watch today, even though I still laugh hysterically whenever I happen to catch an episode.
THE MICKEY MOUSE CLUB:  I was crazy about Darlene while everyone else to my puzzlement raved about Annette.  Every day was a race home from school to catch it; I loved the Hardy Boys and Spin and Marty, who had adventures and exciting lives I didn't think I'd ever have.  This show had kids in my age group doing things I would have loved to do but I was this poor whitetrash kid stuck in Ohio!  In 1956, I didn't know there was a way out. Yet.
LEAVE IT TO BEAVER:  my first memory of anger over fraudulent tv; this family was nothing like the dysfunctional one I was in and I was pissed.  Still am.
Max Liebman specials, Hallmark Hall of Fame, etc.   Where else could I see The Lunts, Maurice Evans, Barbara Cook, Alfred Drake, and a host of other stars I'd never see on Broadway?  
1958 televised broadcast of THE NUTCRACKER with Balanchine playing Drosselmeier.

Dear Friend BK covered this territory so well in his books, and it's amazing how many things he enjoyed that I did as well over a thousand miles away.  One place he doesn't mention much in the books is the Library and the Public Library was my haven from the bullies, the family madness, and most of my adolescent angst; I had the Dewey decimal system down pat, I could race through the Reader's Guide for a magazine review of a show I'd never see, I knew where in the stacks to find the pictorial travel books to leave Ohio mentally, where to find the art books of painters I wanted to be as good as, where to find the music I wanted to play at the piano, and where to find tons of novels, from Dodie Smith's 101 DALMATIANS to Samuel Hopkins Adams' TENDERLOIN to Dorothy Macardle's THE UNINVITED.  I read a lot between 1954 and 1964 when I went off to college, and some things stick with me like Meredith Willson's book BUT HE DOESN'T KNOW THE TERRITORY, about creating THE MUSIC MAN, and PRIDE AND PREJUDICE while a lot of ghost stories, inferior to THE UNINVITED, are now vague plot synopses.

Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: elmore3003 on May 17, 2004, 07:06:30 AM
Instead of a new "Troy" why can't they reissue the one with Rosanna Posada (I might be spelling it wrong).  I can't see Brad Pitt as Helen of Troy at all.

And wasn't there a musical called "Helen of Troy,  New York".

Dear WEL, the Rosanna Podesta film just came out on DVD, clearly to time with the new movie.  "Helen of Troy, New York" made a star of Miss Helen Ford, who went on to star in "Dearest Enemy," "Peggy-Ann," and "Chee-Chee" for Rodgers & Hart.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Stuart on May 17, 2004, 07:22:34 AM
For all intents and purposes, I am going to consider childhood to be my life up until the age 18:

Book:  Most definitely CATCHER IN THE RYE, but also FRANNY AND ZOOEY to a great extent.  (I can't recall when I read the first one, but I might have snuck in the first portion of Ethan Morrdden's BUDDIES trilogy in there before I turned 18, and if so, I would cetainly include it here.)  These books defined who I was as a young man growing up in NYC (ok, so it was Brooklyn, but I spent most of my free time in Manhattan, and we weren't quite as well-to-do as the Caulfields), and BUDDIES defintely helped me define who I was as a young gay man.

Film(s):  FUNNY GIRL:  If a meeskite from Brooklyn could grow up and do this, so could I.  Or try.  (See also: FAME)

Stage:  I've said it before, and I will say it again.  Merman in DOLLY.  MY first Broadway show, and it defined that I wanted to spend my life in the theatre.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Matt H. on May 17, 2004, 07:40:32 AM
When I was six, my mother took me to a dancing school recital to see a cousin of mine who was performing. I was so enchanted by the costumes and the music and the dance that (she told me later), all I could talk about that summer was starting to take dancing lessons, and I did which I continued all the way until I graduated from high school. Many years, I was the only guy in the highest level class as some would come and go, but I loved the tap and jazz classes (always sat out ballet; had zero interest in it; just like Ann Miller.)
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 07:56:31 AM
The mind is a weird and wonderful thing (well mine is -- weird, anyway) I was in the middle of my walk this morning when suddenly "Brahm's" flashed into my consciousness. I spelled it wrong (make that stupidly wrong) at 1 AM last night! Perhaps the hour is an excuse, but I hate things like that. Being obsessive about spelling, I cut my walk short and came back to change it. Thought it would only take a moment, but I got caught up reading the terrific morning posts.  So many good posts - so early!

SWW - Very moving post.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 08:03:56 AM
Before I go to finish my walk... Seminal books: As a kid, don't laugh.... the FREDDY THE PIG series by Walter R, Brooks. These books gave me a world into which I coudl escape and I loved them.

As a young teen, I discovered James Baldwin. GIOVANNI'S ROOM almost blew the top off my head. Followed by ANOTHER COUNTRY - which did. Those books just changed me. Can't really explain why or how -- all I know is that I was a different person after I read them from the person I had been before.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Noel on May 17, 2004, 08:24:54 AM
Diary of a Scoundrel went well enough so that the applause drowned out most of my scene change music.  Oh, well.  Such is the life of an incidental music composer.  I look forward to returning to my real life soon.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Matt H. on May 17, 2004, 08:30:52 AM
Speaking of "Spin & Marty" on the MICKEY MOUSE CLUB, yep, I had my first erotic (very G-rated) dream about Spin (Tim Considine) when I was 8 or 9. I remember it distinctly, and immediately I started buying the Disney comic books and other media to get pictures of him. Naturally, I wrote a fan letter to him, too, and got back an autographed photo.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 09:27:03 AM
Lovely postings.  No flies yet this morning.  But there weren't any yesterday morning either.  We shall see.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: S. Woody White on May 17, 2004, 09:35:45 AM
(always sat out ballet; had zero interest in it; just like Ann Miller.)
You had zero interest in Ann Miller?

 ??? ::) 8)
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: S. Woody White on May 17, 2004, 09:39:12 AM
Lovely postings.  No flies yet this morning.  But there weren't any yesterday morning either.  We shall see.
AHA!  This validates my suspicion, that your flies are up at all hours of the night and sleep late every morning.

What's causing you such pain and grief, my dear BK, is an invasion of BARFLIES!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 09:42:55 AM
What's causing you such pain and grief, my dear BK, is an invasion of BARFLIES!


;D;D;D
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 17, 2004, 09:43:56 AM
Good Morning!

TOD

Musicals (sort of in general) - My mom would take us to shows starting at a very young age.  Everything from community theatre productions to Broadway tours.  The King & I and Fiddler of the Roof stick out in my head.  All that magic on stage.

And the movie version of Flower Drum Song... The whole "I Enjoy Being A Girl" sequence still plays vividly in my head from time to time.

Books - Madeleine L'Engle's "A Wrinkle In Time" series - for the science and fantasy.  Paul Zindel's "Pigman" series for the humanity of the characters.  And almost any Judly Blume book - I was a "fourth grade nothing".  Oh, and I remember my first "good cry" after reading "Bridge to Terabithia".

Music - Anything from my grade school music book series... Covered popular music, folk music, show tunes, opera... And a great music teacher too.  -I think it was Silver-Burdett's "Making Music On Your Own" series... and I still have some of those books in my library.

-Moving into my teens.... Most definitely Sunday in the Park with George - the piece explained the struggle I was going through handling "art and life" - and in a related tangent between "coming out or staying in the closet".  And, as I've mentioned before, Barber's "Knoxville: Summer of 1915" for the sheer beauty of it.

Well, I have a few more things, but I need to get some brunch into my stomach and make a run to the bank...

Laters...
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Noel on May 17, 2004, 09:54:10 AM
BARFLIES!

BARF LIES?  We're talking BARF LIES now?  Who cares how the barf lies?  I say, clean it up with a mop and pail immediately before someone adds to it.

I'd do a Page Two dance but am worried I'd step in it.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: elmore3003 on May 17, 2004, 10:31:37 AM
Dear Friend BK, if you bring in the bomb, you'll have the home flies burning.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 10:35:14 AM
Isn't if funny - today we have a really good topic and we have thirty-two posts by ten-thirty.  Does not compute.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: elmore3003 on May 17, 2004, 10:40:33 AM

And, as I've mentioned before, Barber's "Knoxville: Summer of 1915" for the sheer beauty of it.


DR Jose, "Knoxville: Sumer of 1915" is a piece that makes me cry, to get back to one of last week's TOD.  What an amazing composition!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 10:56:30 AM
Speaking of "Spin & Marty" on the MICKEY MOUSE CLUB, yep, I had my first erotic (very G-rated) dream about Spin (Tim Considine) when I was 8 or 9. I remember it distinctly, and immediately I started buying the Disney comic books and other media to get pictures of him. Naturally, I wrote a fan letter to him, too, and got back an autographed photo.

MattH -- Do you still have the Tim Considine photo?  It was The Hardy Boys that really drew me to the young Mr. Considine.  I used to imagine that he was my older brother, which, I guess, makes me Tommy Kirk.

BK -- Don't fret about the number of posts.  This is one of those TOD that requires a little time and reflection before answering -- and, at the moment, I don't have a watch or a mirror.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jennifer on May 17, 2004, 11:01:29 AM
DR Jane: glad you got home safely.  We were all starting to worry.  Glad doggie is doing better too.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Ben on May 17, 2004, 11:02:51 AM
I remember being in 3rd grade and doing a Christmas paegant. Even at that young age doing something seemingly so simple and uncomplicated but it was magical to me. Then when I was in 5th grade and did my first real performance at 11 years. I actually don't remember the play I was in, but I do remember the feelings I had and the amazing release of going on stage and being someone else. I don't necessarily cite a specific play that had an influence on me, it's just the magic of theatre in general. I may have used that magic for the wrong reasons, but it got me out of a difficult household for hours at at time and it made me appreciate my school. We had a very good drama department and I was involved in both Junior and Senior High School as well as doing community theatre. I survived what could have been turbulent years because I found other people within myself and I was allowed to let those other people out through performing. Knowing that I would be an actor, no matter the stares and laughs that I got when at 13 and 14 people said "What do you want to do when you grow up?" and my response always was "I'm going to New York to be an actor." It took a while longer than I planned but it happened. Even though I no longer perform, I can't imagine having grown up without theatre in my life.

I have always adored Aaron Copeland. There is something in his music that touches me. Hearing his music as a child was wonderful. Hearing those notes and closing my eyes taking me to another place was grand.

One of the books I remember having a profound influence on me was James Michner's The Fires of Spring. Oh, my G*d, what a book. I was in my late teens and going through difficult times when an adult recommended I read it. It was one of moments of recoginition realizing I wasn't alone. What I was feeling  was real and not something to be buried in "the dark place". I loved that book. I've never re-read only because I don't want to diminish the memory of what happened the first time I read it. I was so young and vulnerable and I don't want to be disappointed if it's not the same. I remember reading another book The Front Runner, in college, and crying and being transported. I'm sure there are other DRs who remember that book as well. I re-read the book some time ago and actually couldn't finish it. I don't know what changed in me but I didn't like the book at all. I'm glad I read it when I did and got something out of it, but I could not read it again.

As DR Elmore said, the library was also a refuge to me. I knew the stacks of the Minneapolis Public Library inside out. Another haven for me. I would take the bus from Coon Rapids (an 1:15 ride) to downtown Minneapolis and spend the day in the library, sometimes reading an entire book during my time there. It's also where I discovered Original Cast Recordings. I would bring them home on the bus and know I had a prize for 3 weeks. I sat in my basement bedroom and played them over and over again. They hold such wonderful memories. I think that's why, even though some of the shows are not very good (like How Now Dow Jones which was one of the first OCRs I took out of the library), I have a special place for some of the songs and the music.

Well, this is turning into a novella so I will stop and go back to work. Mr. Rockefella (a Bette Midler reference) calls me.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jrand73 on May 17, 2004, 11:04:14 AM
THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE and Mr Jerry Lewis and THE NUTTY PROFESSOR - this is indeed a week of weeks!

And...I just noticed that TCM is broadcasting in stereo.   Has this been going on all along....and my cable system just started doing it....or is this a recent development?
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 11:07:20 AM
DR Jose, "Knoxville: Sumer of 1915" is a piece that makes me cry, to get back to one of last week's TOD.  What an amazing composition!

Absolutely!!! Perfect marriage of text and music.

"On the rough wet grass of the back yard my father and mother have spread quilts. We all lie there, my mother, my father, my uncle, my aunt, and I too am lying there... They are not talking much, and the talk is quiet, of nothing in particular, of nothing at all in particular, of nothing at all. The stars are wide and alive, they seem each like a smile of great sweetness, and they are very near. All my people are larger bodies than mine,... with voices gentle and meaningless like the voices of sleeping birds. One is an artist, he is living at home. One is a musician, she is living at home. One is my mother who is good to me. One is my father who is good to me. By some chance, here they are, all on this earth; and who shall ever tell the sorrow of being on this earth, lying, on quilts, on the grass, in the summer evening, among the sounds of the night. May God bless my people, my uncle, my aunt, my mother, my good father, oh, remember them kindly in their time of trouble; and in the hour of their taking away.
After a little I am taken in and put to be. Sleep, soft smiling, draws me unto her: and those receive me, who quietly treat me, as one familiar and well-beloved in that home: but will not, no ,will not, not now, noter; but will not ever tell me who I am."
...James Agee
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: George on May 17, 2004, 11:51:24 AM
George, I think it was you over the weekend who asked about the release of A Star is Born (which will happen tomorrow along with the release of West Side Story).

According to my source, ASIB will use the original cover art and have 24 tracks including dialogue bits as well as the Trinidad Coconut Oil Shampoo commerical (which we hear in the restored version. There are stills added to show some of the visuals). There is a also a track for When My Sugar Walks Down the Street which was cut from the Born in a Trunk sequence. It sounds like the most definitive recording we will get. I'm disappointed that they won't be doing a bigger push, since it is the 50th anniversary of the film. Oh, well. I'll take what I can get.

Thanks for the info!!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Joy on May 17, 2004, 11:53:16 AM
First, as I have not made an appearance here in many, many weeks (I've had a job as a paralegal and have had lots to do), I just need to say right away that I really, really enjoyed Kritzer Time.  I had a lot of trouble putting it down, and, in fact, let DH Noel fall asleep next to me in bed and stayed up all night finishing it.

As for the TOD, I must have read The Chronicles of Narnia at least twenty times by now.  I don't know how much of an effect it had on me, but there it is.  Having never seen the show on stage, I was addicted to the movie of A Chorus Line.  As I became an aficionado of the real show, I began to see the bastardization evident in the movie.  But it doesn't really matter -- I still love the movie.

I didn't get much of an opportunity to see much theatre when I was a kid, but what I did see made quite an impression.  I remember seeing a children's theatre production of the play "The Secret Garden" somewhere in VA, and wanting to be in it.

On another topic, my dear friend Laura just got the tour of Millie and will be replacing our own Juliana!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 12:07:30 PM
Gee, you'd think it was Monday or something...
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 12:08:32 PM
Great TOD, BK.  I think the first live production I saw was Song of Norway which I have only vague memories; followed by Irene which I don’t remember at all.  The first show I saw that had an effect on me was probably The Desert Song that I saw when I was probably seven or eight.  In the production I saw, The Riffs made their entrance down the aisles of the theater, which I thought was the greatest thing I had ever seen.  And, of course, it wasn’t lost on me, even at that tender age, that the story was really the same story as Superman, only in Arab costumes and with no flying.  But it was probably the touring production of Once Upon a Mattress that I saw at about the same time that really opened my eyes to the magic of theater with its huge sets and beautiful costumes.  And going backstage after the show opened my eyes to the way celebrities should not behave towards their fans (Imogene Coca) and how they should behave (Edward Everett Horton and King Donovan).

As far as books, Freddy the Pig was a favorite series of books of mine.  And, for me personally, when I was about eleven I discovered Walter Lord’s A Night to Remember and that book changed my life forever.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Ben on May 17, 2004, 12:08:48 PM
Jennifer, you're about to become a two thousandaire (whatever that means). Go, Go, Go, Go, Go, Go!!!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 12:10:46 PM


On another topic, my dear friend Laura just got the tour of Millie and will be replacing our own Juliana!


Does that mean we will start having Laura's Journal?
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 12:18:55 PM
Really interesting piece in the Sunday LA Times that I just got around to reading. Various contemporary playwrights (Kushner, McNally, Durang, etc.) talk about Tennessee Williams. Let me quote part of what A. R. Gurney had to say: "I think what I'd emphasize is his emphasis on the precariousness of our culture, this notion that the sensitive are vicitmized and destroyed by the cruel and the mendacious, the artistic destroyed by the materialistic, which, of course, is still very true today."
...Amen, brother!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 12:21:43 PM
As far as books, Freddy the Pig was a favorite series of books of mine.  

Kindred spirits, TCB! Check my post from earlier today.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 17, 2004, 12:35:38 PM
Well.. I'm flipping channels, and "A Chorus Line: The Movie" is on Bravo... guess what I'll be cringing doing for the next hour or so..  ;)
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 17, 2004, 12:39:58 PM
LOL!!!!  I had forgotten just how bad the lip-syncing and dubbing was in this movie!!?!?!?!

"Hello Twe-eee-lll-lveee.... Hellll-lllloo-ooo Thii-iir-tee-eeennn"....
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jennifer on May 17, 2004, 01:05:24 PM
Jennifer, you're about to become a two thousandaire (whatever that means). Go, Go, Go, Go, Go, Go!!!

I didn't realize. Thanks for pointing it out.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 01:12:01 PM
Kindred spirits, TCB! Check my post from earlier today.

You know, Panni, I think we really are.  In fact, when I was a kid I was always hungry, and when you were a kid you were in Hungary.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jane on May 17, 2004, 01:13:50 PM
Panni the dog in Echo’s honor is cute.  Thanks.

Now that we are home from the busy city, I couldn’t help notice how incredibly quiet my walk was today.  We didn’t meet a sole, just heard the sounds of wildlife and a few cars in the distance.

Ben, LOL
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 01:15:42 PM
Jane, I am very to see you back safe and sound.  I have missed you.  Glad to hear that Echo is better, too.  I just read a nice little article at CNN.com about Kim Novak at age 71.  I didn't realize that she was practically your neighbor, Jane, since she lives in Windsong.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 01:17:53 PM
Ben, what a lovely post about theater.  How very true.  I am glad you were able to live your dream.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Matt H. on May 17, 2004, 01:24:19 PM
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Quote from: Matt H. on Today at 07:40:32am
(always sat out ballet; had zero interest in it; just like Ann Miller.)
 
 
DR S. Woody responded: "You had zero interest in Ann Miller?"


If you really thought that's what I meant, so be it.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jane on May 17, 2004, 01:30:44 PM
Woody, great story and I admire your courage to be honest.  I wish I had one to match that.  I know many books affected me deeply and inspired me to be a more caring thoughtful person.  One that comes to mind is VANITY FAIR.  Dickens, my favorite author had the same affect on me.  LES MIRSERABLE which I read when I was fourteen had a great impact on me.  I think I really lost my innocence with that book and truly realized how unfair life could be.  Obviously I was a slow learner.

The DAYS OF WINE AND ROSES was the first time I saw or read anything dealing with the issues of alcoholism in a kind compassionate manner.  The movie gave me more understanding to how my mother became an alcoholic and why she couldn’t stop.  It also showed me there were other’s out there with the same problem.

Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Matt H. on May 17, 2004, 01:31:13 PM
DR JRand asked: "MattH -- Do you still have the Tim Considine photo?  It was The Hardy Boys that really drew me to the young Mr. Considine.  I used to imagine that he was my older brother, which, I guess, makes me Tommy Kirk."


No, darn it! My mother threw out all my old stuff after I'd had my house for a few years. When I finally went to get some of my old games (like CAREERS which we talked about a lot some months ago), books (NANCY DREW collection in particular), and other memorabilia, I found out she had given anything of use to the Boys' Home and the Girls' Home in my hometown and had junked everything else. So, I lost lots of autographed photos of folks like Patty Duke, Bill Bixby, Roger Smith, and Tim Considine.

Her explanation/argument was that if I had wanted those things, I should have gotten them once I bought my own house and had room for them.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jane on May 17, 2004, 01:34:25 PM

TCB thanks for the welcome.  I read the Kim Novak article in the paper and can’t figure out where Windsong is.  It sounds beautiful and I would love to visit there.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 01:40:10 PM

TCB thanks for the welcome.  I read the Kim Novak article in the paper and can’t figure out where Windsong is.  It sounds beautiful and I would love to visit there.


Well, just call up Kim, and invite yourself over.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jennifer on May 17, 2004, 01:47:44 PM
Have you guys heard of this show that is premieres tonight (and is on again tomorrow).

It's on the WB, and it's called Superstar USA.  It's a singing competition where the good get sent home and the truly awful (who think they are good) move forward.

http://www.thewb.com/Shows/GenericShow/0%2c11116%2c169159%2c00.html
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 01:48:59 PM
DR JRand asked: "MattH -- Do you still have the Tim Considine photo?  It was The Hardy Boys that really drew me to the young Mr. Considine.  I used to imagine that he was my older brother, which, I guess, makes me Tommy Kirk."


No, darn it! My mother threw out all my old stuff after I'd had my house for a few years. When I finally went to get some of my old games (like CAREERS which we talked about a lot some months ago), books (NANCY DREW collection in particular), and other memorabilia, I found out she had given anything of use to the Boys' Home and the Girls' Home in my hometown and had junked everything else. So, I lost lots of autographed photos of folks like Patty Duke, Bill Bixby, Roger Smith, and Tim Considine.

Her explanation/argument was that if I had wanted those things, I should have gotten them once I bought my own house and had room for them.

MattH, what a shame to lose all of those mementoes.  I know what you mean.  I should have saved a great many things from my old room when my Mom decided to sell her house.  For me, it was more a matter of not realizing what I was letting go.  And then there are all of the autographs that I did hang on to, but that I have lost or misplaced through the years.  I am surprised that I managed to hang on to my autographed Once Upon a Mattress program.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Joy on May 17, 2004, 01:50:44 PM
Does that mean we will start having Laura's Journal?
I'm pretty sure that we won't.   :-\ :) :-\ ;)
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Joy on May 17, 2004, 01:53:22 PM
LOL!!!!  I had forgotten just how bad the lip-syncing and dubbing was in this movie!!?!?!?!

"Hello Twe-eee-lll-lveee.... Hellll-lllloo-ooo Thii-iir-tee-eeennn"....
For real...and "Surprise", what the heck was that???  What a poor substitute.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: William E. Lurie on May 17, 2004, 01:55:39 PM
Jennifer---
I posted about that show last week when I read about it.  In order to keep the audience from laughing they told them that these performers were clients of "Make a Wish" whose wish was to perform in a televised talent contest.  That has to be one of the most sick things I ever heard.  (The "Make A Wish" comments have been edited out since "Make A Wish" found out about them).

Jose - After seeing how brilliantly the A CHORUS LINE segments came off on the Tony Awards as part of the retrospective I hate the movie even more.  Too bad they didn't just tape the show and forget about filming it.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 02:00:05 PM
Are old postcards (stamped) worth anything? if so, where does one offer them for sale?
I just received a package of photos, cards, etc. that belonged to my elderly, recently deceased cousin. She seems to have kept anything that was ever sent to her. It's quite bizarre to find letters from my mother telling her (cousin) that Panni used to be such a sad little child in Hungary and now that she's in Canada, she does nothing but clown around and be happy all day tra-la. HUH? Pardon me? Who? And there are photos of a number of places where we lived - even of foods my mother prepared. But the running commentary of our wonderful lives is from some movie, certainly not from anything resembling reality. Quite surreal.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 02:01:55 PM
td - My metaphorical mailbox had a REAL CD in it today! Thank you!!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: MBarnum on May 17, 2004, 02:01:59 PM
Today's TOD is a tough one and I have thought a lot about it.

So many movies and TV shows and songs influenced me as I grew up. Movies like ATTACK OF THE PUPPET PEOPLE, EARTH VS. THE SPIDER, VIKING WOMEN AND THE SEA SERPENT, REVENGE OF THE CREATURE, etc. impressed me so as a child, appealing to my imagination and giving me a love of movies.

 TV shows like LEAVE IT TO BEAVER, etc. taught me my values (being nice to others, being polite, etc).

The eclectic music I listened to gave me a love of music and an appreciation of diverse types of music.

And I am still influenced by movies, music, and television...hopefully in a positive way. I try to avoid things that leave a negative taste, and I steer towards the positive both in entertainment and in life.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: MBarnum on May 17, 2004, 02:05:36 PM
Jane, I am so glad that you are back safe and sound. And I do hope that Echo is doing better! Poor thing.

I had thought that Kim Novak lived outside of Eagle Point, so maybe that is where Windsong is. Jane also lived close to Jack Elam (Ashland) and Beth Marion (1930s actress) who lived in Jacksonville (she passed away last year). Also the lead actor from BRIDE OF THE MONSTER lived in nearby Jane in White City. It is just celebrity central down there! LOL!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: MBarnum on May 17, 2004, 02:07:18 PM
I am listening to a couple of wonderful compilation CDs that I picked up today..ARABIC GROOVE and SAHARA GROOVE. Groovy modern pop and dance music from North Africa and Arabian countries. Very nice!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 02:07:24 PM
Today's TOD is a tough one and I have thought a lot about it.

So many movies and TV shows and songs influenced me as I grew up. Movies like ATTACK OF THE PUPPET PEOPLE, EARTH VS. THE SPIDER, VIKING WOMEN AND THE SEA SERPENT, REVENGE OF THE CREATURE, etc. impressed me so as a child, appealing to my imagination and giving me a love of movies.

 TV shows like LEAVE IT TO BEAVER, etc. taught me my values (being nice to others, being polite, etc).

The eclectic music I listened to gave me a love of music and an appreciation of diverse types of music.

And I am still influenced by movies, music, and television...hopefully in a positive way. I try to avoid things that leave a negative taste, and I steer towards the positive both in entertainment and in life.



...... not to mention, a love of galdiators! ;)
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: MBarnum on May 17, 2004, 02:07:41 PM
I think I just had a frenzy of posting!!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jane on May 17, 2004, 02:08:39 PM
Panni are you sure you don’t want to keep the postcards?  You could write your own comments next to your mother’s and save them for Rachel.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: MBarnum on May 17, 2004, 02:08:49 PM
OH, yes TCB! Ha! Those Hercules and gladiator films certainly gave me a love of .....ehem...physical fitness!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Matt H. on May 17, 2004, 02:12:52 PM
Jennifer wrote:  "Have you guys heard of this show that is premieres tonight (and is on again tomorrow).

It's on the WB, and it's called Superstar USA.  It's a singing competition where the good get sent home and the truly awful (who think they are good) move forward."


When I first read about this program, I was repulsed and continue to be. I will be nowhere NEAR that network when the show broadcasts tonight.

I'll probably be watching the DVD of Sidney Lumet's wonderful THE VERDICT. I LOVE that movie. I generally love courtroom dramas anyway, but this one is terrific. I just upgraded from my laserdisc of the film and will watching the DVD tonight.

Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jane on May 17, 2004, 02:16:23 PM
MBarnum thanks.  Echo is feeling fine and we had a great hike today.    

When Bogie was young he had health issues and the vet said we he would likely be the first of our four cats to go.  Well today he is fourteen years old and doing very well.  I shall have to go to the market and get him some fish for a special treat.  

Keith just walked in and said his birthday card, which only took a month, finally arrived from Romania.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jane on May 17, 2004, 02:19:12 PM

I had thought that Kim Novak lived outside of Eagle Point, so maybe that is where Windsong is.

It is just celebrity central down there! LOL!

Keith reminded me 'THAT IS WHAT I SAID"

Also Ann Curry is from Ashland.  Her parents are still here.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 02:19:58 PM
Oy, what a day this has been, what a rare mood I'm in, why it's almost like being driven INSANE.  Haven't heard back from the Pest Control people so I guess bombing won't happen today.

Dealing with all sorts of annoyances.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 02:20:12 PM
But enjoying all the excellent posts.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Robin on May 17, 2004, 02:22:21 PM
As to the topic of the day:

The musical that influenced me the most was The Music Man, because I was in it at the tender age of six.  I had a solo in the "Wells Fargo Wagon" number...it was the line "or a double broiler!".  I didn't know what the heck a double broiler was, nor did I care.  I just loved being part of the show.

The book was Tarzan of the Apes.  Edgar Rice Burroughs and Tarzan taught me to love books and reading.

The most influential movie was Fantastic Voyage, which may have been the first movie I've seen in a theater.  (It was on a double bill with another sixties fantasy, The 7 Faces of Dr. Lao...even then, Tony Randall couldn't convince me he was Chinese.   He fared better as Medusa.)  I thought the whole idea of the mini-sub tooling through someone's bloodstream was just about the coolest idea anyone ever had.  

The most inflential piece of music was Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue, which is still my favorite piece of music ever.  
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jed on May 17, 2004, 02:32:00 PM
I was addicted to the movie of A Chorus Line.  As I became an aficionado of the real show, I began to see the bastardization evident in the movie.  But it doesn't really matter -- I still love the movie.

So you're the one! :D
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 02:37:31 PM
So you're the one! :D

Jed, have you come over to this side of the mountains to look for a job, or are you doing it all by cyber and snail mail?  
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jed on May 17, 2004, 02:38:45 PM
Jane also lived close to Jack Elam (Ashland) and Beth Marion (1930s actress) who lived in Jacksonville (she passed away last year). Also the lead actor from BRIDE OF THE MONSTER lived in nearby Jane in White City. It is just celebrity central down there! LOL!

I didn't think anybody lived in Jacksonville, Oregon except my great-grandparents (when they were alive, that is).  Is it as small a town as I seem to remember from our annual visits?

Frequent conversation when I was 7 or 8 years old...
"So, Jed, what are you doing over spring break?"
"We're going down to Jacksonville to visit my great-grandparents."
"Florida?  Cool!"
"No, Jacksonville, Oregon."
"Oh... ummm... oh."
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jed on May 17, 2004, 02:39:48 PM
Jed, have you come over to this side of the mountains to look for a job, or are you doing it all by cyber and snail mail?  

I've been doing my searching from this side of the world.  No luck yet, but something's gotta happen sooner or later.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 02:40:09 PM
Panni are you sure you don’t want to keep the postcards?  You could write your own comments next to your mother’s and save them for Rachel.

I wasn't clear in the way I described the box of goodies, Jane. The postcards aren't from my mother. There are letters and photos with writing on the back from her. The postcards are written by people I don't know.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Tomovoz on May 17, 2004, 02:52:00 PM
Why not shuffle the postcards and then with the help of the pictures and the writing - develop a story (screenplay). I guess there are names mentioned to give you the characters.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Matt H. on May 17, 2004, 03:08:25 PM
No, I can't abide the movie version of A CHORUS LINE. It's such a gross misrepresentation of the show, and having done the show in two different productions, the movie is just unconscionable for me. But I guess it's good that someone likes it.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Charles Pogue on May 17, 2004, 03:33:56 PM
I have to go with Robin on this one.  TARZAN led me to literature and books.  And Tarzan...in the form of Johnny Weissmuller...also led me to movies.  So Edgar Rice Burroughs, though he has long been eclipsed by far superior writers, is responsible for both my cinematic and literary ambitions.

Musically, it was old movies and discovering my father's stash of 78's.

Theatre was a production of Beauty and the Beast that we saw on a school outing when I was in the fourth grade...I remember little about it, except that it was very haunting and magical...if dim memory serves they borrowed touches from the Couteau film.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jennifer on May 17, 2004, 04:02:45 PM
DR Panni: I collect postcards and I know that there are definitely postcard shows out there (I'm sure LA has quite a few a year).  Some old cards are worth a lot and some aren't.  You'd probably have to ask a dealer to know how rare yours are.

Do you know what years they (postmark), what kind they are (linens ...) and what is pictured on them?

Sounds like a fun find.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jane on May 17, 2004, 04:15:44 PM
I wasn't clear in the way I described the box of goodies, Jane. The postcards aren't from my mother. There are letters and photos with writing on the back from her. The postcards are written by people I don't know.

I think it was my error, not your description.  I read you post to Keith and thought "oops, oh well" then rushed out to pick up Bogie's birthday dinner.  Echo insisted on going with me.  My timing was perfect, just as we left a little storm hit. ;D
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 04:16:06 PM
My goodness, we are havin' a siesta here at haineshisway.com
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 04:33:48 PM
Welcome eight GUESTS.  Come play wiz us.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 17, 2004, 04:52:40 PM
I was in junior high school when I read Sherwood Anderson's Winesburg Ohio. That book has had a lasting effect on me, though I remember the experience of reading it more clearly than I recall the actual stories.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: PennyO on May 17, 2004, 04:54:30 PM
Good morning, all!  I slept late because I stayed up late reading DR Penny O's book, JEWISH THIGHS ON BROADWAY; I glossed through it to get to the Kritzer books, as I promised my good friend BK, and now I'm just enjoying her account of her protagonist's desperate climb to the middle.  It's very funny and I recommend it highly.  I don't know if the G&S group really is the late LOOM, warts and all, but I'm having a good tme.


Thanks for the praise, Larry. I'm so glad you like it. I'm so glad you're laughing! And, Yes! The three G&S chapters are (mostly) based on my time at LOOM. Apparently, Brian Molloy, the great pianist who served as the orchestra in those productions, is still playing. I remember he would memorize a score at first playing - one of the most astounding musical talents I ever met. Though LOOM was a backstage horror show much of the time, it was the only Equity rep house, playing 52 weeks a year, for years. And William Mount-Burke DID lose his eyesight and one of his feet to diabetes, and STILL came to work every day, and STILL directed the shows. And supervised the lighting, fa' chrissakes. And much of the time at rehearsals was spent in giving him the correct time and leading him to center stage. Wouldn't 'a' missed it!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 05:01:47 PM
I've just received an invitation to a wedding in Toronto from my ex-husband's first wife and her present husband. My ex-husband will attend with his present wife, as will his two children by his first wife (one of whom is the bride) as will my daughter who is the half-sister of the bride and of the bride's brother and is the daughter of my ex-husband. I shall decline the invitation. Noel Coward, where are you when we need you?
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: PennyO on May 17, 2004, 05:03:11 PM
Ah, yes - question of the day... hmmmm...

The Velveteen Rabbit meant a great deal to me; I read it many times.

Too many 30's Busby Berkeley movies meant way too much to me.

Mickey Mouse club (I wanted to be Annette Funicello), Sheriff John - what a happy family those shows were for a rather unhappy child.

Later, Willa Cather's SONG OF THE LARK meant a great deal to me. And most of Hermann Hesse - I read Glassperlenspiel several times. It feels like time to read it again.

Mom loved the ballet and the opera - so we girls were taken several times. La Traviata, Swan Lake were very memorable, unfortunately, and shaped the next 40 years of my life. I still want to be a ballerina, and still want to wear the first act costume for playing Violetta.

I loved Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis. I still want to be Jerry Lewis, as he was when I was 9. Born to be a clown, but too uppity to do standup. Oy.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 05:04:01 PM
Welcome back, PennyO.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Robin on May 17, 2004, 05:04:22 PM
I shall decline the invitation.

A wise strategy, methinks.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 05:05:10 PM
And welcome to our newest registered member, Paladin.  Have gun, will travel, baby.

Now, where in tarnation IS everyone?  A rather slow day here at haineshisway.com, but once again, fantastic posts.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on May 17, 2004, 05:10:06 PM
I've just received an invitation to a wedding in Toronto from my ex-husband's first wife and her present husband. My ex-husband will attend with his present wife, as will his two children by his first wife (one of whom is the bride) as will my daughter who is the half-sister of the bride and of the bride's brother and is the daughter of my ex-husband. I shall decline the invitation. Noel Coward, where are you when we need you?

I had to diagram that one.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 05:13:59 PM
Interesting to note in today's posts how many DR's were unhappy children who found refuge/safety/an escape/happiness... whatever you want to call it... in films, books, theater.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: PennyO on May 17, 2004, 05:19:16 PM
Yes - the unhappy children - we deliberately chose alternate families. Still do. We are the intentional ones. We make an artwork of our lives.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: PennyO on May 17, 2004, 05:20:23 PM
Thanks for the welcome, bk. It has been a long time...
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 05:36:16 PM
Jennifer - Re the postcards - My favorite - which has no postmark, was not written on -  is an illustration of midtown NY, featuring the Empire State buidling with a Hindenburg-type airship floating by.
There are a couple of cards featuring a photo of Dr. Hugo Eceker and the Graf Zeppelin.
There are some lovely painted ones with European scenes from either 1924 or 1928.
There's a spiffy one of the Catskills from 1927.
Oh - I just found a gorgeous hand colored card of "The Music Tower at Night -Playland, Rye, NY."
Another hand painted beauty - Heidelberg at night with the castle lit up in reds,  rising out of the darkness over the river.
...Lots of good stuff.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: George on May 17, 2004, 05:41:17 PM
My favorite postcard (I bought it for myself) had a picture of a beautiful lake with the caption:
The scenery is here!  Wish you were beautiful!  ;D
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: George on May 17, 2004, 05:43:56 PM
Actually, that's only one of my favorite postcards.  If I can find it, I'll try and scan my other favorite!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Robin on May 17, 2004, 06:00:21 PM
What is it, fish?

Here's one of my favorites:
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 06:08:36 PM
Have gun, will travel, baby.

I am glad that the day portion of this day is over.  Now, let's have some FUN.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: S. Woody White on May 17, 2004, 06:18:25 PM
...My mother threw out all my old stuff after I'd had my house for a few years....Her explanation/argument was that if I had wanted those things, I should have gotten them once I bought my own house and had room for them.
But that's what every mother says when she forgets to ask about what can be tossed!

It's a lot more embarrasing when she says that, and you're still living at home!

 :-\
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: S. Woody White on May 17, 2004, 06:27:54 PM
Jennifer---
I posted about that show last week when I read about it.  In order to keep the audience from laughing they told them that these performers were clients of "Make a Wish" whose wish was to perform in a televised talent contest.  That has to be one of the most sick things I ever heard.  (The "Make A Wish" comments have been edited out since "Make A Wish" found out about them).
...
I've come to the conclusion that many (or most) television producers are former lawyers who have decided to find another form of lucrative work.

If you can't do the slime, baby, you can't get prime time.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Robin on May 17, 2004, 06:35:43 PM
Here's another great one...check out the angle of that approach!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 06:36:36 PM
I'm watching the much-maligned Mia Farrow/Danny Kaye version of Peter Pan.  
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Robin on May 17, 2004, 06:37:01 PM
I swear, this is the last one.  And I've saved the best for last...
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: MBarnum on May 17, 2004, 06:39:42 PM


Rhapsody in Blue, which is still my favorite piece of music ever.  

One of my all time favorites too Robin!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: S. Woody White on May 17, 2004, 06:40:38 PM
I've just received an invitation to a wedding in Toronto from my ex-husband's first wife and her present husband. My ex-husband will attend with his present wife, as will his two children by his first wife (one of whom is the bride) as will my daughter who is the half-sister of the bride and of the bride's brother and is the daughter of my ex-husband. I shall decline the invitation. Noel Coward, where are you when we need you?
Noel Coward?  This sounds more like something cut from Aspects of Love!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: S. Woody White on May 17, 2004, 06:46:53 PM
Had another job interview today, a second interview with a new manager.  Things look pretty good, all she needs to do is check with her boss about what they can offer me as pay.

At this point, a great salary isn't what I need.  I need to work, to get something going outside the home again!  

Der Brucer and I celebrated with burgers at the Purple Parrot.  It felt so great not to cook for one night.  (Insert "satisfied sigh" smiley.)
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: S. Woody White on May 17, 2004, 06:49:49 PM
Does anyone know if cicadas are really good eats?  I keep reading this, I've even found some recipes, but can't get past the buggy part.

I do know they aren't considered kosher.  This is from the University of Maryland:

You Can Eat Cicadas, But Are They Kosher?
Not according to the Orthodox Union (OU), an international kosher certification agency - "The Mishnah lists the requirements needed for an insect to be considered kosher. It must have four legs plus two which are the length of the insect which are used for jumping. It must be known as a 'chagov,' translated as grasshopper, and have a tradition handed down from generation to generation that it is a kosher insect. The cicada is not a kosher insect."
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jane on May 17, 2004, 07:05:47 PM
George, funny postcards.

Panni your postcards sound beautiful.  I think it’s wonderful you all get along well enough to be invited to the wedding.  

I loved to read and loose myself in a story long before I needed to escape there.  I think books and movies took on different meanings later.  Cinderella is a perfect example.  At first it was just a sweet story I loved.  By the time I was twelve I began identifying with her.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jane on May 17, 2004, 07:10:32 PM
SWW-hope this is the job for you.  GOOD VIBES!

I just emailed your Cicada question to a friend in DC. ;D
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jennifer on May 17, 2004, 07:18:58 PM
Re: postcards

I still love them, and go to one postcard show a year.  But a few years back I was collecting and trading a lot.  My favorite categories were: musicals/theatre, stadiums, maps, and free cards/rack cards.

Sometimes at postcard shows I will find interesting, unusual cards.  You just have to be careful, because some cards are very expensive!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jane on May 17, 2004, 07:39:12 PM
I didn't think anybody lived in Jacksonville, Oregon except my great-grandparents (when they were alive, that is).  Is it as small a town as I seem to remember from our annual visits?

LOL.  Jacksonville is small, yet it is a national historic landmark.  It's a charming little town and home to the Britt Music Festival and wonderful hiking trails.  Movies that have been filmed there are:

The Great Northfield Minnesota Raid (1972) Universal Studios renovated the town for the filming of this movie.

Mystery Mansion (1986)

A Girl of the Limberlost (1990, TV)

Inherit the Wind (1988, TV)
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jane on May 17, 2004, 07:43:23 PM
Someone please do the page 5 dance for me-I’m off to watch something.

Jennifer I just learned something new and interesting about you.  The shows sound like fun.
 
Bruce, hope your tomorrow is better than today was, without any hassles. :)

Goodnight.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Noel on May 17, 2004, 07:43:38 PM
Does anyone know if cicadas are really good eats?  I keep reading this, I've even found some recipes, but can't get past the buggy part.

I do know they aren't considered kosher.

Well, without really too much of our culinary tastes, there's an expression around our house: "If it ain't kosher, it must be good."

Noel
(who enjoyed scallops wrapped in bacon at the Yacht Club last week)
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 07:50:36 PM

I think it’s wonderful you all get along well enough to be invited to the wedding.  

I don't think it's a matter of getting along. I haven't spoken more than three sentences in my life to my ex-h's ex-wife. We have a rather dramatic history, she and I. Her husband left her because he fell in love with someone else (that would be me). She was not pleased. In a big way. And I don't blame her. Goes to show that almost everything eventually becomes water under the bridge. "This too shall pass" in action.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 07:54:44 PM
For Jane, better late than never...

                   THE PAGE FIVE SONG!

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Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 07:56:38 PM
No more wire hassles, EVER!

Have gun, will travel, baby.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 07:57:42 PM
Welcome seven GUESTS.  You like my hair, yes?  My lips, yes?  The sway of my how you say of my hips, yes?
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Matt H. on May 17, 2004, 08:15:12 PM
I couldn't summon up interest to watch the AMERICAN IDOL special tonight. I know each of the final three went back home and were filmed for this program (and for subsequent editions of the show). Since she's from North Carolina, there was a lengthy article about Fantasia and the day she spent with the IDOL camera crew following her around.

Tomorrow night if I remember correctly from last year is the three song sing-off. The contestants choose a song, the judges select a song for each, and then each singer chooses a song at random from a fishbowl. Should make for an interesting contest tomorrow evening.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: S. Woody White on May 17, 2004, 08:31:02 PM
I now have proof that I should be more careful about what I say.

Earlier, as we were driving back from dinner, der Brucer was complaining about how there was going to be "nothing to watch" on the television tonight.  I suggested, rather flippantly, that he could always watch The 700 Club, just to find out what their reaction to the marriages in Massachusets has been.

Sure enough, at the appropriate hour, I could hear the voice of Pat Robertson whining about abominations, and how G*d would turn his back on the reprobates, which in Robertson's eyes means the entire nation.

Der Brucer just turned to me and smiled.  "He's a little too tame this time," he commented, and changed the channel.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 17, 2004, 08:36:53 PM
Jose - After seeing how brilliantly the A CHORUS LINE segments came off on the Tony Awards as part of the retrospective I hate the movie even more.  Too bad they didn't just tape the show and forget about filming it.

A few months ago, I saw a video of the show with Wanda Richert as Cassie.  The tape was probably third generation, the picture and the sound wobbled a lot.  The cast was only so-so and Richert slacked her way through "Music and the Mirror".  And yet watching this tape gave me hundreds of times more pleasure then the movie ever did or ever will.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 17, 2004, 08:39:04 PM
I don't think it's a matter of getting along. I haven't spoken more than three sentences in my life to my ex-h's ex-wife. We have a rather dramatic history, she and I. Her husband left her because he fell in love with someone else (that would be me). She was not pleased. In a big way. And I don't blame her. Goes to show that almost everything eventually becomes water under the bridge. "This too shall pass" in action.

I don't know...  This sounds like the set-up for a murder mystery.  Do you happen to know whether or not Angela Lansbury is also invited?
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Tomovoz on May 17, 2004, 08:49:07 PM
I don't know...  This sounds like the set-up for a murder mystery.  Do you happen to know whether or not Angela Lansbury is also invited?
:)
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 09:08:19 PM
I don't know...  This sounds like the set-up for a murder mystery.  Do you happen to know whether or not Angela Lansbury is also invited?



I don't think so, Dan, but I will be happy to go to the wedding as Nero Wolfe, if you want to go as Archie.

Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 17, 2004, 09:22:00 PM
I don't think so, Dan, but I will be happy to go to the wedding as Nero Wolfe, if you want to go as Archie.

Yikes--at my current weight I might be the apt between the two of to be Nero Wolfe (except orchids are one of my least favorite flowers.)  Maybe going as the Snoop Sisters would be more fun?
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 09:34:47 PM
I hope you all don't want a percentage if I do convert this into a mystery.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 09:50:53 PM
Yikes--at my current weight I might be the apt between the two of to be Nero Wolfe (except orchids are one of my least favorite flowers.)  Maybe going as the Snoop Sisters would be more fun?

Only if I get to be Mildred Natwick.  I refuse to be Helen Hayes again!



Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: td on May 17, 2004, 09:52:16 PM
td - My metaphorical mailbox had a REAL CD in it today! Thank you!!

Well, listen to it in reality, then post about it metaphoricaly on Friday. ;)

You're welcome!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Dan (the Man) on May 17, 2004, 09:53:26 PM
I hope you all don't want a percentage if I do convert this into a mystery.

As far as I'm concerned, you're off the hook as long as you don't use my elderly lesbian vampire "sisters" who go about solving murders as your sleuths.  I'm saving them for my first my mystery novel,  Murder Must Be Awful!.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 10:03:51 PM
Just read an interesting statement. Anyone want to offer your thoughts on the following: "Audiences today are a little embarrassed by their emotions." (The speaker is commenting on audiences not willing to be emotional with the likes of Tennessee Williams.)
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 10:04:52 PM
Geez, I can't use the elderly lesbian vampire sisters! There goes my pitch.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 10:06:00 PM
Well, listen to it in reality, then post about it metaphoricaly on Friday. ;)

Will do.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 10:14:59 PM
As far as I'm concerned, you're off the hook as long as you don't use my elderly lesbian vampire "sisters" who go about solving murders as your sleuths.  I'm saving them for my first my mystery novel,  Murder Must Be Awful!.

Shouldn't that title be: Murder Must Be Tacky!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: S. Woody White on May 17, 2004, 10:31:02 PM
Just read an interesting statement. Anyone want to offer your thoughts on the following: "Audiences today are a little embarrassed by their emotions." (The speaker is commenting on audiences not willing to be emotional with the likes of Tennessee Williams.)
I think the speaker almost has it right.  I would say instead that "Audiences today are a little embarrassed to show or otherwise admit to their emotions."  That's not quite the same thing.

Say, for instance, that a well-written play or screenplay actually gets produced, and that a couple goes to see the play or movie.  They get caught up in the drama, and one of them sheds a tear.  After the show, the one who didn't shed a tear will, of course, chide the tearful one, hiding his (or her) own emotional reaction, while Tearful will of course deny getting so caught up in the drama.

The emotions were there, but talking about them is the taboo.

The solution that is currently in play, of course, is to produce shows that have no genuine emotional content, replacing it with visceral impact, explosions and CGI monsters, or faux emotion, when the Bachelor hands out his roses.  If the emotions aren't real to begin with, it's much easier to laugh them off.

(modified for spelling)
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jrand73 on May 17, 2004, 10:33:52 PM
What?
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: George on May 17, 2004, 10:48:28 PM
Well, I couldn't find the postcard that I wanted to post, so I'll have to keep looking.  It's pretty darned funny.

I don't know when I'll actually be able to look for it because right now I'm house-sitting for my friend Claudia.  She gets back tomorrow (yea!) but tomorrow night I'm going with a co-worker to see "The Girl of the Golden West" at the Seattle Opera.  Wednesday night I'm going to see a local production of Cabaret.  Thursday and Friday I'm working backstage for a touring company of RENT and Saturday, I have to take my niece (she paid for tickets) to a Seattle Storm women's basketball game.  Too damned busy!  BUT I HAVE NOTHING TO DO ON SUNDAY!!!  I can't wait! ;D
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 17, 2004, 10:53:16 PM
Good Evening!

Well, I made it back from Richmond, but it did take me a few tries to do so...

After getting back from dinner, I decided to take a small nap before driving back up to DC... Then the "American Idol" special came on, so I had to watch some of that...

I got my stuff packed up and my car loaded and headed to the gas station.  $1.89 for regular - went up 8 cents since last Monday!  Ah, well...

As I was pulling out of the gas station, I had to think where my cell phone was... OH, it's just in my bag in the back... Whew!...  OH, but where is my cell phone charger?  -It's still plugged into the wall in my bedroom in my apartment.. So...

After picking up the phone charger, I got back on 95 northbound... OH!  Did I remember to put my medicine back in my bag?  Hmmm... So, I pulled off the next exit, and... WHEW!  it was in the bag... So...

Well, I'm about 20 miles from my destination, and I notice that a car is following me... Then I notice that the blue lights on top of his car turn on...  AAGGHH!!!  Was I speeding?  -I know I wasn't... Was something falling off my car?  As it turned out my tailights were out.  I told him that tends to happen, and that I keep spare bulbs in my trunk.  Well, he went back to run my plates... And when he came back he just said I should either pull off at the rest stop two miles up and fix them, or keep my flashers on the rest of the way.  Then he went back to his car...  Then I kept looking back at his patrol car.... Was I free to leave now?  Was he back there writing me a ticket?  Well, after I peered my head out a few times, he came back up to my car and asked what the problem was... I asked if I was free to leave, and he told me I was.  NO TICKET!!! Whew!!!  -I have never cherished my near spotless driving record - my one an only moving violation happened 15 years ago!  So...

I pull into the rest area... Find my spare bulbs... But I don't find my Phillips head screwdriver...  So...

I get back on 95 with my flashers on - thankfully, those were not burned out... Make it back to the apartment... Put my stuff away in my apartment..., and then replace the burned out bulbs...

WHEW!!

-Maybe those were all signs that I should have just stayed up here this "weekend".  ???

So, I'm back safe and sound...  And now a little confused from the recent thread concerning Nero Wolfe, Mildred Natwick and company.  ???

Well, time to tend to some things that to be tended to before I go to sleep, so...  But I'll check back in later...
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jed on May 17, 2004, 10:59:34 PM
tomorrow night I'm going with a co-worker to see "The Girl of the Golden West" at the Seattle Opera.  Wednesday night I'm going to see a local production of Cabaret.  Thursday and Friday I'm working backstage for a touring company of RENT and Saturday, I have to take my niece (she paid for tickets) to a Seattle Storm women's basketball game.  Too damned busy!  BUT I HAVE NOTHING TO DO ON SUNDAY!!!  I can't wait! ;D

Wow, nice and busy, George!  While I'm not much of a fan of the show, I particularly hope that it's a good production of Rent, as my mother and sister are headed over to Olympia for Thursday night's performance!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Jed on May 17, 2004, 11:01:59 PM
I got my stuff packed up and my car loaded and headed to the gas station.  $1.89 for regular - went up 8 cents since last Monday!  Ah, well...

I'd love to see such a price.  We're currently around $2.17 here.  :-\
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 11:03:42 PM
$1.89 for regular!!!  I am moving to Richmond tomorrow -- if I can afford the gas to get there.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: TCB on May 17, 2004, 11:04:16 PM
Thank you, son!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: George on May 17, 2004, 11:11:21 PM
I got my stuff packed up and my car loaded and headed to the gas station.  $1.89 for regular - went up 8 cents since last Monday!  Ah, well...

The Tumwater (which is right next to Olympia) Costco has "regular" (remember when that meant leaded?) unleaded gas for $2.15!  I've never seen it that high EVER!  Almost as much as your area, Jed!  The prices will probably get much higher before they get lower (if they get lower).
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 11:14:10 PM
The solution that is currently in play, of course, is to produce shows that have no genuine emotional content, replacing it with visceral impact, explosions and CGI monsters, or faux emotion, when the Bachelor hands out his roses.  If the emotions aren't real to begin with, it's much easier to laugh them off.
So many screenwriters/playwrights today wouldn't know a real emotion if they tripped over it. They're writing about other movies and plays, not about life.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Tomovoz on May 17, 2004, 11:15:53 PM
We are now paying over $1A per litre of petrol here.  That equates to about $2.70 US at current exchange rates. Of course we pay a considerable tax on petrol.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 11:20:29 PM
     

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Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: George on May 17, 2004, 11:27:01 PM
Wow, nice and busy, George!  While I'm not much of a fan of the show, I particularly hope that it's a good production of Rent, as my mother and sister are headed over to Olympia for Thursday night's performance!

Cool!  Tell them that I'll be backstage.  I don't know exactly what I'll be doing (it's different for each show that I work on), but I'll be there (a Dreamgirls reference).  Usually, I don't actually get to see any of the show.  I work with the costume people so I'll be picking up and hauling clothes up and down the stairs from the stage to the green room (which is under the stage).  I'll be able to hear it, just not see it.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: George on May 17, 2004, 11:29:26 PM
Well, I must don my highest Wussburger drag and be off.  I have to clean the house I'm staying in before my friend comes home tomorrow.  And I would like to sleep one night this week.  Night, regular HHW DRs and guests!
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: JoseSPiano on May 17, 2004, 11:30:58 PM
Well, I do know that the gas prices in Richmond are on the low side of the national average... But I do remember working in Chicago two years ago (?) during the last big price spike.  And I had to do a ton of driving out there!  At least I only fill my tank whenever I drive back to Richmond - prices around DC are about 10 to 15 cents higher.  And it's still nice to know that my almost 11-year old car still gets good gas mileage.  When I fill up, I usually only put in about 6 or 7 gallons - and I've only driven about 200-230 miles (back and forth from Richmond to DC).  But it was weird seeing the proportion of the numbers on the pump - price vs. gallons - be so wide tonight.  I remember getting a kick out seeing the numbers near equal when gas was around $1.00/gallon.

-And I do remember the "sticker shock" when I was filling the rental car in Melbourne, AUS.  Especially when I realized it was "per liter" and not "per gallon"!

OK... well, now I must get ready for bed... I have rehearsal in 10 hours... YIKES!

Goodnight.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Tomovoz on May 17, 2004, 11:33:09 PM
I'd be especially thankful to not see or hear Rent.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 11:36:04 PM
Had a lovely and long conversation with our very own Harvey Schmidt tonight, who sends his love to one and all and also all and one.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: bk on May 17, 2004, 11:36:45 PM
Have gun, will travel, baby.
Title: Re:TO BOMB OR NOT TO BOMB
Post by: Panni on May 17, 2004, 11:55:39 PM
Waiting for midnight when my coach turns into a pumpkin...