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Title: CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 12:01:22 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you know what is expected, and now it is time for you to post until the cameltoe cows come home.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Ann on December 30, 2004, 12:05:08 AM
First post??
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Post by: Ann on December 30, 2004, 12:05:30 AM
Yay!  I got the first post!  No Wussburger am I!
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Post by: Ann on December 30, 2004, 12:08:52 AM
I just enjoyed a nice hot bath.  At least, I started to...but images of those who don't even have water to drink kept haunting me.  I watched the ABC special on Tsunamis this evening...such disturbing footage.  How can I take a bath when some people can't take a drink?

Okay, that's all the gloom and doom out of me...I promise
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Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 12:09:48 AM
I can't locate today's notes at the moment.  I may have to log off entirely and start again.

Partner Colin and I watched "The Tenant" last night. Still a movie I fine quite distubing. So many years later for this second viewing. The casting was odd and the dialogue does not "sit well". I think I would prefer to watch again in another language with English subtitles. The voices seem
"at odds" with each other. French would have been good but I shall have to settle for Italian or German with my copy.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 12:10:31 AM
Good Morning!

Cameltoe - ?!?!?!?!?!

Why-O, Why-O, Why-O!?!?!?!?!

Actually, the trumpet player in the pit has a nickname for a very nice looking posterior - usually one in a tight pair of pants.  She calls it an "onion".  Hmmm...

And since I don't want "cameltoe" and "onion" to appear in the same post as today's topic of discussion...
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: George on December 30, 2004, 12:19:25 AM
Last year, when I had digital cable (for a limited time at a special rate), I used to watch "So Graham Norton."  Graham Norton had a version of his show called "The Graham Norton Effect" on Comedy Central this past summer and it's hysterical!  The original version, coming from England, was more liberal with what they talk about and what they can show!  Anyway, (yes, there is a point to my post) he always had a computer next to him and he went on-line with examples of very unusual (and very funny) websites.  One site that he found was all about cameltoes! :o All sorts of photos that people would send to the site-owner (what a fetish to have!).  Even famous people (male AND fe- ... a Dance a Little Closer reference!).  I have no idea what the URL for the cameltoe site is.  And I'm glad I don't!  I work with a couple of people who are living examples of this anomaly. <shudder>
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 12:24:52 AM
I've just discovered that the last two films in box five of Edgar Wallace movies are in German only - what's amusing about it is that I began watching one of them and I'm having no trouble at all following what's going on.  Once you've watched ten other movies in a row in German with English subs, you really do start to pick up on important recurring words.  I wonder what the story with box six, which should be here any day, will be.  I know there's one film in box one that's German only, and three films out of the four in box two are German only.  I think it's because those films were not released here in the US and the others were, hence they had the dubs and translations already done.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 12:27:36 AM
As for discoveries over the past year:

All the various goodies in BK's storage space.  -Hmm, that almost sounds a little... well... Well... ;)

Butter Pecan panna cotta at Six-Burner in Richmond.

Grappa at Becco in New York City.  Be sure to try the pineapple and pear varieties.

The tamales being sold by the señoras at the top of the Vermont/Sunset and MacArthur Park Metro stations in LA.

Avenue Q - Who knew puppets could make me laugh and cry?

HainesHisWay.com - The Notes.  The posts.  The laughs.  The observations.  The recipes.  The news clippings.  The pictures.  The Vibes.  The Family.

The magic of the movies.  I've seen more movies this year than I have in a long time.  And, comparatively, I really didn't see that many.  But it was nice going to the movies again.

The simple joy of taking a walk around the neighborhood.  And the new things you notice from time to time.  Things that were always there, but for some reason or other just never caught your eye.  Or that you never took the time to notice until now.

Catching up with friends I hadn't seen in years.  And the nice feeling that even though we had not been in contact for while we had somehow remained "close".

The "amount" of unconditional love in the hugs from my nephew, John Michael; and my nieces, Alexandra and Alyssa.  They somehow make everything right with and in the world.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 12:30:15 AM
OK... I want to try my best to get up BEFORE Noon tomorrow/today, so...

Goodnight.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 12:38:12 AM
Oh, a major discovery this year was the restaurant Crustacaen - many thanks to Panni's daughter for introducing it.  The food is sinfully yummilicious and I had two of the best meals I've ever eaten.  
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 12:40:30 AM
First "discoveries" that come to mind are a new appreciation of the work of Victor Herbert and a rediscovery of the wonders of Jerome Kern.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: George on December 30, 2004, 12:48:40 AM
In the words of Jane Curtain (the first to use it):  Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow. ;D
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: S. Woody White on December 30, 2004, 01:05:41 AM
During the past year, I have discovered what it is like to live with a Dalmatian.

I have discovered that der B's son-in-law does have a useful purpose: to shoot living critters and send us the meat.

I have discovered how to roast chestnuts.  For that matter, I have discovered chestnuts.

I have rediscovered the truism that non-profit organizations often include members who are certifiably overdue for the straightjacket club, and that such members usually derail said organizations.  And that if said members ever get your telephone number, it's best not to pick up the phone and simply let them vent on the answering machine (even if they do use up all the recording cassette).
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 01:15:04 AM
It is Thursday already!

Whew!  What a wonderful party it sounds like.  I can hardly wait for my first theatre party of the year in 2005!

Favorites discoveries this year were a couple of films Les uns et les autres and The Tenant both discovered via HHW.

Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 01:17:58 AM
Over the past few nights GAME SHOW NETWORK has gotten out of its usual chronological rotation of WHAT'S MY LINE and has shown some episodes featuring Bobby Darin.  I can only assume that this is because BEYOND THE SEA is opening.  Two shows with Darin as guest panelist and tonight's show from early 1962 or 1963 when he was Mystery Guest.  On all of these shows he was introduced as the King of the Heart Fund, and spoke about his fund raising activities for the Heart Fund.

AND Dorothy Kilgallen was inebriated.....it was a bit embarrassing.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 01:20:47 AM
I discovered this marvelous series of Edgar Wallace films, 98% of which I'd never seen.  
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Post by: S. Woody White on December 30, 2004, 01:22:46 AM
And I've also discovered that I need to read more children's literature.  

This discovery comes from the grandlads, in particular the older lad.  He claims to "hate" reading.  Der B and I suspect that the problem isn't his reading skills, which are very good, but that he hasn't yet discovered what he likes to read.  (I'll work on his confusing "hate" and "dislike" later.)  

His mother and father don't have time to do much reading, much as they want to encourage him to read.  They also don't have much time to find out what is available for him to read.  Der B and I, on the other hand, have much more time available to us.  Hence, it falls to us grandfatherly types to do the necessary research.

If I have a personal glitch in this project, it's that I'm more attracted to books appropriate for a lad (or lass) three or five years older than the grandlad I'm supposed to be helping.  There's always something.  On the other hand, the younger grandlad is just three years younger than his brother, so any research I do now shouldn't be terribly out of date by the time younger grandlad's turn comes around.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: S. Woody White on December 30, 2004, 01:27:32 AM
Over the past few nights GAME SHOW NETWORK has gotten out of its usual chronological rotation of WHAT'S MY LINE and has shown some episodes featuring Bobby Darin.  I can only assume that this is because BEYOND THE SEA is opening.
Makes sense to me.  Around the time Catch Me If You Can was opening in theaters, they ran the To Tell the Truth episode (quoted in the film) where the real Frank Abagnale, Jr., appeared as a guest.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: S. Woody White on December 30, 2004, 01:35:02 AM
I've also discovered how pricey it can be to travel on the East Coast.

The East Coast has something California does not: TOLL BOOTHS!

Delaware isn't so bad.  Highway 1 has a couple of stops, a dollar each.  Easy to handle.  New Jersey, however, is the pits.  At each of their stops, the charge is 35 cents.  There are many stops.  Way too many, in my opinion.

(On the other hand, I suppose this keeps a lot of New Jerseyites employed.  It's like how you aren't allowed to pump your own gas in Jersey; they have employees who do that, and that's by law.)

New York has tolls.  There's a toll on the Chesapeke Bay Bridge (if we're heading southward to DC).  Tolls here, tolls there.

Bleh.


(typo cleanup)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: S. Woody White on December 30, 2004, 01:36:07 AM
It's past 4:30 in the morning here.  I am NOT a Wussburger.  So there.

Good night.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 03:51:00 AM
The Attack of the Invisible Bugs - think of the money that could be saved on the special effects?  They are invisible!

Perhaps you need one of those bug zappers outside on the patio.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Michael on December 30, 2004, 04:06:32 AM
I had to go on line to see what a cameltoe was. Glad to see that both men and women.

Now someone has to write a song using the music of Camelot.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Michael on December 30, 2004, 04:07:32 AM
As for the bugs, could it be bed bugs and you were bit "While You Were Sleeping"
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Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 04:52:50 AM
Fleas. G'night.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 05:52:12 AM
Orrrrrrrrrrrr...some rrrrare disease........
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Post by: vixmom on December 30, 2004, 06:21:45 AM
Orrrrrrrrrrrr...some rrrrare disease........

nice West Side Story reference!!

Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: vixmom on December 30, 2004, 06:24:08 AM
And I've also discovered that I need to read more children's literature.  

he hasn't yet discovered what he likes to read.

If I have a personal glitch in this project, it's that I'm more attracted to books appropriate for a lad (or lass) three or five years older than the grandlad I'm supposed to be helping.  

How old is the lad in question?  I have an  eleven year old who loves to read, and I try to read all her books along with her (or preferably before her)  maybe I can suggest a few titles?

Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: vixmom on December 30, 2004, 06:26:46 AM
here is a website for those in need of cameltoe

http://www.camel-toe.net/cameltoecup.htm
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: vixmom on December 30, 2004, 06:27:37 AM
I have made my contribution for the day, I must now go and be diligent about my employment obligations
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 06:58:58 AM
Great new Avatar DRDANISE!!
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Post by: Stuart on December 30, 2004, 07:07:27 AM
Yes, I was also going to comment on Danise's new avatar.....very nice.

And Good Vibes to you, DR Matthew.

Did I really need to know what a cameltoe was????

My discovery of 2004 is that I like to drive.  Especially without 8 million people behind or in front of me.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Kerry on December 30, 2004, 07:33:28 AM
I'd rather think of Camelot than Cameltoes.

And just what IS your favorite Jack Benny episode (I haven't read the posts yet).

I'll go with Jose about AVENUE Q. (Although I learned from Jim Henson that puppets can make me laugh and cry--even at the same time).

My discovery this year is something that Father Dan said in "Jeffrey" (one I may even change to my personal motto):  

"There is only one real blasphemy--- the refusal to experience joy."


I discovered that I'm still alive.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 08:07:18 AM
And I'm still here!
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Post by: Matt H. on December 30, 2004, 08:11:32 AM
Discoveries? I really can't think of any, but if I do I'll post about them later.
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Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 08:13:05 AM
DR vixmom - your avatar pic has to be 100x150 in size - if you don't have a program that will do that....email the pic to me, and I will work on it for you.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Matt H. on December 30, 2004, 08:13:32 AM
I have the last of the Christmas parties tonight. I know - Christmas is over, but my friend Jeff who moved to Virginia in October is back in town, and we postponed our dinner/party/celebration until he could make it back here. So, it's tonight. I have a chance to get some DVD gifts still!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Matt H. on December 30, 2004, 08:16:24 AM
Does anyone else use those daily tear-off-a-page calendars on their desks? Last year, there were so many TV show-based calendars to choose from. (The George Eads pics I've posted this year all came from the CSI calendar.)

This year, apart from I LOVE LUCY and THE SIMPSONS and JEOPARDY, I couldn't find any TV-show based daily calendars. I'll go out looking again tomorrow (since they're now at reduced prices).
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Matt H. on December 30, 2004, 08:19:10 AM
My favorite Jack Benny show is when he takes someone (Don Wilson) down to his vault. It was hilarious from beginning to end.

My favorite sequence is his violin duet with Giselle MacKensie on "Getting to Know You."

Looking forward to seeing what bk's favorite episode is.

Oh, that clip of Jerry Orbach singing "Her Face" would certainly bring back memories!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 30, 2004, 08:19:38 AM
here is a website for those in need of cameltoe

http://www.camel-toe.net/cameltoecup.htm

It says they make good recipe card holders!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 30, 2004, 08:30:43 AM
Does anyone else use those daily tear-off-a-page calendars on their desks? Last year, there were so many TV show-based calendars to choose from. (The George Eads pics I've posted this year all came from the CSI calendar.)

This year, apart from I LOVE LUCY and THE SIMPSONS and JEOPARDY, I couldn't find any TV-show based daily calendars. I'll go out looking again tomorrow (since they're now at reduced prices).

I always get a tear-off-a-page for my desk at work.  Years past I've had some fun ones:  World News Weekly (which periodically featured the adventures of the original Bat Boy), Origami (my office was cluttered with crap I made everyday), and this year's Worst Case Scenario Handbook (which wasn't as much fun as I thought it would be.)  For 2005, I picked up the New Yorker Cartoon-A-Day.  This should be amusing.

For the walls, I got The Simpsons (for the office), Peanuts (for the kitchen), and a large-paged calendar that features vintage travel posters from the 20s and 30s (for the study.)  Lots of far away places with strange sounding names.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 30, 2004, 08:36:07 AM
This year I have learned new meanings for many words:

Quote
1. Coffee (n.), the person upon whom one coughs.

 2. Flabbergasted (adj.), appalled over how much weight you have gained.

 3. Abdicate (v.), to give up all hope of ever having a flat stomach.

 4. Esplanade (v.), to attempt an explanation while drunk.

 5. Willy-nilly (adj.), impotent.

 6. Negligent (adj.), describes a condition in which you absentmindedly answer the door in your nightgown.

 7. Lymph (v.), to walk with a lisp.

 8. Gargoyle (n.), olive-flavored mouthwash.

 9. Flatulence (n.) emergency vehicle that picks you up after you are run over by a steamroller.

10. Balderdash (n.), a rapidly receding hairline.

11. Testicle (n.), a humorous question on an exam.

12. Rectitude (n.), the formal, dignified bearing adopted by proctologists.

13. Pokemon (n), a Rastafarian proctologist.

14. Oyster (n.), a person who sprinkles his conversation with Yiddishisms.

15. Frisbeetarianism (n.), The belief that, when you die, your Soul flies up onto the roof and gets stuck there.

16. Circumvent (n.), an opening in the front of boxer shorts worn by Jewish men.

The above came to me advertized as the winners from a
Washington Post yearly contest in which readers are asked to supply alternate meanings for common words. I can find no Post link and the definition for "Frisbeetarianism" is a hoary Geroge Carlin reference. (Can you use "hoary" on a family friendly site?)

der Brucer
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 08:36:32 AM
Good Morning!

I'm up.  Not necessarily awake, but I'm out of bed...

I need oatmeal...

Laters...
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 30, 2004, 08:37:58 AM
Our local PBS station showed a New Year's Eve themed Jack Benny Program a few days ago.  It's the one where Jack dresses to the nines and turns down requests to spend New Year's Eve with his TV show cast and crew because he has a "hot date", who later stands him up.  The second part of the show where Jack is forlornly walking the streets amidst other revelers and then goes into a diner for a cup of soup is hilarious.  These shows really do hold up, don't they?
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 08:39:51 AM
This year I have learned new meanings for many words:The above came to me advertized as the winners from a
Washington Post yearly contest in which readers are asked to supply alternate meanings for common words. I can find no Post link and the definition for "Frisbeetarianism" is a hoary Geroge Carlin reference. (Can you use "hoary" on a family friendly site?)

der Brucer

These sound like the results of the now-defunct (I think) Washington Post Style Invitational.  It was a weekly feature and contest, and some of the games were quite fun - and some of the answers were quite inventive and funny.  So, this may be an old list... Or maybe they resurrected the contest for the year's end.  In any case, maybe a search under "Style Invitational" on the Post's website will bring up the results if they were archived.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: vixmom on December 30, 2004, 08:40:29 AM
DR vixmom - your avatar pic has to be 100x150 in size - if you don't have a program that will do that....email the pic to me, and I will work on it for you.

Thank you!! I have been trying to find a nice piece of linoleum to afix to the camera lens prior to taking the picture.    :D
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 30, 2004, 08:43:14 AM
Tolls here, tolls there.


Hast thou sent to ask for whom the road tolls?

der Brucer (happy they don't charge $0.36)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Matt H. on December 30, 2004, 09:00:38 AM
Yes, the Jack Benny shows do hold up. I've been getting those cheap Critic's Choice discs of Benny TV shows, and they're always hilarious. But they aren't the ones I remember most fondly.
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Post by: Matthew on December 30, 2004, 09:01:52 AM
DR Jose - Most likely, Samuel French will NOT send extra copies of the p/c for the cast.  They are the worst about their musicals.  The sent me a defective 'cello book for "The Secret Garden" and when we called and asked for a replacement, they sent one but charged us for the shipping.  The flute part for SG was not in the right order and the player had to copy the part and put it in the right order.  You'd think they'd fix that because I'm sure people have complained.   I spent an hour last night erasing the pencil marks in the "Zombie Prom" score so I can make a copy of it today.  I don't understand that - they charge someone for not erasing and then they don't bother to erase the part.  MTI is notorious for that, also.  And yes, "Zombie Prom" is a go.  It's a silly little thing, but should be fun.  I read the script last night and did laugh at the end.  It should be fun.

For Christmas, I gave my true love - a set of kitchen aide baking  pans, 3 DVD's (The All Dog Christmas Carol, Hocus Pocus, and Bedknobs and Broomsticks) The Barefoot Contessa "Parties" cookbook, two stuffed animal schnauzers, and several silly things for the stocking.  It was a great Christmas.

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Post by: Matthew on December 30, 2004, 09:03:03 AM
Oh, and regarding the non-existant vocal book, I'm going to have to make one by cutting and pasting the vocal lines out of the p/c score.  Good times all around, I say!
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Post by: MBarnum on December 30, 2004, 09:08:32 AM
One of my favorite Jack Benny episodes is the one where he is kidnapped by a gang led by pretty Merry Anders....but really, most every one of his shows was a winner!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jennifer on December 30, 2004, 09:11:29 AM
I just received 2 photos via email from my brother-in-law.  They are from Xmas eve.  One is of me and my aunt's tree.  And the other is of my aunt's dog coco sitting in her carriage.

Hopefully I can reconfigure them and I will try to post them here later.
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Post by: MBarnum on December 30, 2004, 09:12:30 AM
My discovery this year is that when you try to sell your old car, be sure you know where the title is! LOL!

I am now filling out massive amounts of DMV forms so that I can get the ownership for my old car over to the guy who bought it last night (after tearing my house apart looking for the title!).  :o
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Post by: Jay on December 30, 2004, 09:14:51 AM
I am ever so pleased to learn that the tenor of the discourse last night chez BK achieved the same high level as that at the Algonquin Round Table in days of yore.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 09:18:35 AM
I had thought of fleas, and there used to be a dog in this house, so I suppose I'll call some exterminator and have him "do" the house.  But, it's normally easy to tell if there are fleas, by putting your hand down on a surface (rug, bed, table) and they will usually jump right onto you.  I did that last night and saw nothing.  And why all of a sudden - I didn't have this problem until three days ago.  

The Jack Benny episode is close to the Giselle McKenzie episode, but it involves a twelve-year-old girl (Toni Marcus) who comes up from the stage to get Jack's autograph.  He's trying to play his violin, but he hands it to her while he signs for her.  She, of course, takes it and plays it better than he.  He sends her back to the audience.  Later in the show (after a hiliarious bit with guest-star Julie London), she comes back because he spelled her name wrong ("Toni is spelled with an 'I'" she says.  He says, "Oh, did I spell it with a "y"?"  "No, with an 'e' - two of them.").  They then do the Giselle version of getting to know you, and it's absolutely fall off your seat funny.
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Post by: JMK on December 30, 2004, 09:30:23 AM
One of my favorite discoveries is the film that Betsy and I watched the other night:  the sumptious Nowhere In Africa.  Note to any/all screenwriters:  watch this film and study/learn.  Betsy and I kept expecting typical American-film tropes that never materialized (thank Heaven).  You know, stuff like the dropped line that quinine will make you blind, so you expect the little girl to go blind (she doesn't).  No discernable "arc" other than the realization of character(s), all against an incredibly evocative background.  What am I, Ebert & Roeper all of a sudden?
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Post by: JMK on December 30, 2004, 09:31:34 AM
Fleas are seasonal, believe it or don't.  There's a major infestation in the NW right now.
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Post by: George on December 30, 2004, 09:35:23 AM
It says they make good recipe card holders!

EEWWW!!!!!!!! :P
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Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 09:36:47 AM
Re fleas and bk - Were you somewhere for dinner or a visit in the last few days where there is a dog or cat?
Also - I don't know from fleas - but is it possible some eggs of fleas or  something else "hatched" in your home environment?
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Ginny on December 30, 2004, 09:40:16 AM
Re fleas and bk - Were you somewhere for dinner or a visit in the last few days where there is a dog or cat?
Also - I don't know from fleas - but is it possible some eggs of fleas or  something else "hatched" in your home environment?

Or, have you had anything in one of those self-storage places that you've recently retrieved?  We has some furniture in one prior to moving into this house and the upholstery was flea-infested.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: George on December 30, 2004, 09:40:26 AM
Does anyone else use those daily tear-off-a-page calendars on their desks? Last year, there were so many TV show-based calendars to choose from. (The George Eads pics I've posted this year all came from the CSI calendar.)

I have one.  I used to get the Far Side calendar, but they don't make those anymore. :(

One thing I've discovered this year is the comic strip Get Fuzzy (http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/)[/b].  I'd never read this (I don't get a daily paper) but a couple of the books came through the library where I work.  I glanced through them and fell in love with it!  I go to the website and read it every day.  I also have gotten the "Get Fuzzy 2005 Scratch-A-Day Calendar."  I haven't opened it yet.  I can't wait!

My wall calendar is for the TV show Futurama.  I miss that show! :(
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jennifer on December 30, 2004, 09:40:41 AM
Okay I have 2 sizes for the photo.

Here is attempt one.

Coco the dog in her special carriage (cause of her leg):
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jennifer on December 30, 2004, 09:43:28 AM
Hmm, that seems like an okay size.  Here is me in front of the Xmas tree:

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Post by: Jennifer on December 30, 2004, 09:45:00 AM
Also, I was playing around:
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Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 09:47:50 AM
The dinner I attended last night was superb. The host and hostess are both great cooks. We had CHEESY POTATOES! And a wonderous ham and divine chicken pot pie for those like DD and her bf who do not eat pork. And all sorts of truly delish side dishes. And for dessert - home-made cheese cake and bread pudding and pie and cookies and ice cream... The food was endless. Interesting company, too. Had a long conversation with a doctor who runs a "Wound Clinic" - lots of gangrene chat. Her husband is a record producer - much cutting off of limbs in his work, too. Another guest is in charge of the palatial digs of the Duchess of Northumberland (I think) in Newcastle. ("Your Grace in public, Jane in private.") And then the couple who owns eleven sailing vessels of one kind or another...
Many of these folks were Canadians and there was much Canada bashing from certain quarters.
I had an excellent time. The traffic, of course, was horrendous. It took me around 45 minutes to drive to Woodland Hills on the Freeway. On the way back, with normal traffic, it took maybe 15 minutes.
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Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 09:50:09 AM
I suppose that the dog at the Jones's might have had fleas, so maybe that's the easy answer.  I hope I don't have to do flea bombs in my home environment.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 09:53:50 AM
I agree about that Jack Benny episode with the little girl playing the violin being totally hilarious. I rarely laugh out loud at even the best of comedy (comes from my days writing the stuff - you sit there and nod and say, "that's funny.") - but I was roaring at that one.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 10:00:09 AM
Back from breakfast/brunch...  And I think I'm awake now...

My brother, Jay, was already down in the kitchen giving some of the new cookware a test drive - bacon, eggs and toast.  I made myself some oatmeal, and then we all sat down for a meal.  A nice way to start the day.

And I'm digging the new tea kettle.  The handle is configured so that when you pick it up, it "opens" the spout/whistle.  No need to possibly burn a finger or two trying to open the spout/whistle manually.  ...And now I'm having some green tea.
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Post by: MBarnum on December 30, 2004, 10:09:09 AM
Maybe it is bed bugs!
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Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 10:10:55 AM
I haven't got my page a day desk calendar yet, but I have two great wall calendars. One is a 50's movie poster calendar. January is ALL ABOUT EVE. Other months are the posters for Vertigo, Rear Window, La Dolce Vita, Attack of the Fifty Foot Woman, Breathless (the French version) etc.

My other wall calendar also features classic movie posters, but all eras, not just the 50's - January is LONE STAR. Other months: The Invisible Boy, Manhattan Melodrama, The Sea Hawk, etc.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 30, 2004, 10:15:05 AM
Gangrene chat?  Lovely dinner conversation!  Bon appetit!  

Now cameltoes!  That's a dinner conversation!  

It was only one of the many raucous laugh-fests we had last night!  I surprised we weren't doing spit-takes, the laughs came so fast and furious.  But The Lovely Wife's grub was too yummicilous, too faboo, too too, to spit out a morsel.

And BK's selected evening of entertainments was equally faboo and too-too.  What a delight to view such treasures!  It is a shame that we can have somewhere between 100-200 stations of cable television and not a one carries this sort of Arts programming.  Not a one to hold the cultural legacy of this country.  A&E and BRAVO long ago abandoned their mandates of Arts programming to bring us the same old tired crap we can get on the other hundred or so channels.  The whole purpose of 100 channels was supposed to be choice.  Niche programming for every taste.  But every channel has forgotten why they originally started and now trawls for the same under-thirty viewer and ratings.  Shame!  Shame!  Shame!  And stupid!  You all can't get the under-thirty viewer.  And every statistics shows that it's the over forty viewer who still has most of the disposable income that advertisers want to get.  Most under-thirties aren't going to buy a jaguar.  There is an older, well-heeled audience for an Arts Channel.

I'm not a fan of Crustacean.  I don't much care for seafood.  And I don't much care for Beverly Hills.  I hate driving into the place and trying to park.  I hate the whole pretension and ambience.  Give me Hollywood or the Valley.

Discoveries: I discovered two plays that I bet most did not even know Henrik Ibsen wrote.  When in the theatre museum of London...I saw a production of Ellen Terry's of THE VIKINGS OF HELGELAND by Ibsen.  Having never heard of the play, I scoured my London book sources and theatre shops for a copy.  No one had one.  When I got back here, I tracked it down on the Internet and bought it.  It comes with another Ibsen play called THE PRETENDERS, which looks equally interesting.  Both are of an historical nature.  I just finished the indtroductory material last night and am now embarking on VIKINGS,  so I'll have to let you know.

Fun re-discovery:  FRACTURED FLICKERS.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 10:15:40 AM
DR Jose - Most likely, Samuel French will NOT send extra copies of the p/c for the cast.  They are the worst about their musicals.  The sent me a defective 'cello book for "The Secret Garden" and when we called and asked for a replacement, they sent one but charged us for the shipping.  The flute part for SG was not in the right order and the player had to copy the part and put it in the right order.  You'd think they'd fix that because I'm sure people have complained.   I spent an hour last night erasing the pencil marks in the "Zombie Prom" score so I can make a copy of it today.  I don't understand that - they charge someone for not erasing and then they don't bother to erase the part.  MTI is notorious for that, also.  And yes, "Zombie Prom" is a go.  It's a silly little thing, but should be fun.  I read the script last night and did laugh at the end.  It should be fun.

For Christmas, I gave my true love - a set of kitchen aide baking  pans, 3 DVD's (The All Dog Christmas Carol, Hocus Pocus, and Bedknobs and Broomsticks) The Barefoot Contessa "Parties" cookbook, two stuffed animal schnauzers, and several silly things for the stocking.  It was a great Christmas.



Thanks for the gift inventory!  ;)

As for erasing books... UGH!

From what I understand, most licensing companies only check the first few pages of the rental materials when they get them back.  And possibly the "centerfold" since the books open up to the staples easy enough.  So...

I've learned to call, e-mail, complain to a licensing company as soon as I get the books - especially if there is still writing in them.  I've even received discounts and/or a reduction in the shipping fees for my efforts.  One set of parts I received were so notoriously bad - writing in the parts, out of order, different versions, etc. - I went ahead and got a hold of the then head of MTI at the time via e-mail.  He e-mailed me back, and managed to give us the rental for free!  -We still had to pay the royalties, but at least the rental was free!  I was even instructed to send the books back to the attention of an actual person in their shipping warehouse so that they could be inspected personally.  Sometimes the squeaky wheel...

But still... When I did Passion at Signature, we were the first theatre to do the show, and the first to get the parts from MTI.  So, it was a bit understandable that they were "not perfect" - they were literally hot off the press.  Our conductor/MD, Jon K. - whom DR elmore knows of - is very thorough - i.e. anal - and wrote up quite an extensive errata sheet when he sent the parts back.  -And, from conversations he had had, MTI was looking forward to having another set of eyes proof the parts.  Fast forward a few months later when we were doing a section of the show for the Helen Hayes Awards at the Kennedy Center.  Jon opened the box, noticed that they had new covers, it was a new set of parts... Then as he started paging through the parts, he noticed that none of the corrections were instated... And, in fact, some new errors had somehow worked their way into the parts.  Ah, well...

As for Sam French...  I used to deal with a clerk there who I would see at all the theatre conventions each spring and fall - he would always help me out if I had a problem.  Unfortunately, he's no longer with the company.  However, for better or for worse, if you're ever able to visit the Sam French offices in New York, then you'll gain a greater understanding of why their scores are in the shape that they are in.

 :-\
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 30, 2004, 10:16:16 AM
..Had a long conversation with a doctor who runs a "Wound Clinic" ..

Where folks who are all wound up go to unwind?

der (really thinks he's funny) Brucer
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 30, 2004, 10:20:50 AM
BK, if you have no host animal, I don't believe you'll get infested.  I don't believe fleas, as a rule, live on humans.  They'll bite you and then jump off you,  but if they have no host animal...dog, cat, barnyard pig...to live on and breed, they shouldn't be a long time problem.

Of course, you might just have mange...

A more likely answer might be spider bites.  The rain will drive all sorts of bugs and tiny critters inside.  I have a ton of ants presently doing a conga line in my bathtub, thanks to the heavy rain.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 10:37:25 AM
More about erasing books....

A conductor I've worked with from time to time places a little gift on each player's music stand sometime during the final week of shows: a gum eraser (usually those really nice white/gray ones) with a small bow taped to it!

A lot of regional houses I've worked in just get some of the interns to spend hours in the copy room making copies of all the parts when they first come in.  The originals go right back into the box ready to be shipped back to the licensing house as soon as the show closes.  Only copies - sssh - get distributed to the cast, crew and orchestra.  And it actually works out better that way since it allows people to mark up their scripts and parts as much as they want.  And the actors appreciate the extra "room" to write down their blocking.

-Oh, but then there are those infamous Tams-Witmark sides... UGH!

I always try to make sure the rental parts are in good shape to be sent back once a show closes.  I arrange an "erasing party".  But then there are those times when the theatre arranges to have the parts erased by either some of the interns or staff, or even by some of the theatre's volunteer.  "Just leave them on the stands, we'll take care of it."  That's always a nice perk, luxury.

*And there have been those times where I've left any corrections penciled in the parts, AND then put a big note on top of the materials in the box saying so.  They better not dare charge me!!!

It was particularly illuminating when I was working on A Chorus Line in Houston earlier this year.  Fran Liebergall was the conductor and MD, and she has literally been with the show since Day Zero - she was the original rehearsal pianist, and the subsequent musical supervisor.  She knows the show.  She lives the show!  Well, A Chorus Line is coming up on it's 30th Anniversary(!), and there are still some major errors in the parts.  There are some "hidden" mistakes - just stuff that is buried in the mix - but some of them are pretty obvious to the ears once you play them.  The big bugaboo for Fran was the solo clarinet line right after the Cassie/Zach scene - there's an accidental in the part that should not be there!  -And it's been in those rental parts since they were first printed up, and the mistake has been noted several times in the past, but has it been corrected yet?  After almost 30 years?...

Oh, but then there was the time when I did The Human Comedy two seasons ago.  It's definitely not a title that gets done a lot.  In fact, I think the production I did was something like only the fifth or sixth one officially licensed by Sam French!  The vocal books we received were spotless!  They had never been used or rented out.  In fact, they had been in storage for so long that the glue used to bind the pages was literally cracking away, and, consequently, pages were falling out left and right.  Thankfully, Sam French knew this was happening, was going to happen, so we had no issues when the parts were returned.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 10:39:15 AM
BK - Is it possible your bites might be a rash?  Using a new clothes detergent?  A new soap?  Eat anything out of the ordinary in the past few days?  Maybe some cheesy potatoes?  ;)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 10:42:20 AM
BK - Of course, if you were in the South or in certain parts of the Midwest, the first thing that most people would diagnose you with would be "chiggers".

-And I have yet to find out exactly what a "chigger" is.  Lots of theories and speculation, but no real concrete answer.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 30, 2004, 10:53:27 AM
Yes, the Jack Benny shows do hold up. I've been getting those cheap Critic's Choice discs of Benny TV shows, and they're always hilarious. But they aren't the ones I remember most fondly.

I was going to say before that it seems that most of the reruns I see of The Jack Benny Show are from the mid 50s or so.  The shows I mostly remember are from his run in the early 60s.  Are any of them included in these sets.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 10:53:56 AM
I'll go with Jose about AVENUE Q. (Although I learned from Jim Henson that puppets can make me laugh and cry--even at the same time).

Well, maybe I should have qualified my statement...

Who knew puppets could make me laugh and cry.. and say four-letter words... and have sex... in many different positions... and be gay... and...

;)
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 30, 2004, 10:56:27 AM
SERENDIPITOUS TID-BITS

I received this cutie via EMail:
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In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth and populated the Earth with broccoli, cauliflower and spinach, green and yellow and red vegetables of all kinds, so Man and Woman would live long and healthy lives.  

Then using God's great gifts, Satan created Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream and Krispy Creme Donuts. And Satan said, "You want chocolate with that?"  And Man said, "Yes!" and Woman said, "and as long as you're at it, add some sprinkles." And they gained 10 pounds. And Satan smiled.  

And God created the healthful yogurt that Woman might keep the figure that Man found so fair. And Satan brought forth white flour from the wheat, and sugar from the cane and combined them. And Woman went from size 6 to size 14.  

So God said, "Try my fresh green salad." And Satan presented Thousand-Island Dressing, buttery croutons and garlic toast on the side. And Man and Woman unfastened their belts following the repast.

God then said, "I have sent you heart healthy vegetables and olive oil in which to cook them."  And Satan brought forth deep fried fish and chicken-fried steak so big it needed its own platter. And Man gained more weight and his cholesterol went through the roof.

God then created a light, fluffy white cake, named it "Angel Food Cake," and said, "It is good."  Satan then created chocolate cake and named it "Devil's Food."  

God then brought forth running shoes so that His children might lose those extra pounds. And Satan gave cable TV with a remote control so Man would not have to toil changing the channels. And Man and Woman laughed and cried before the flickering blue light and gained pounds.

Then God brought forth the potato, naturally low in fat and brimming with nutrition. And Satan peeled off the healthful skin and sliced the starchy center into chips and deep-fried them. And Man gained pounds.  

God then gave lean beef so that Man might consume fewer calories and still satisfy his appetite. And Satan created McDonald's and its 99-cent double cheeseburger. Then said, "You want fries with that?" And Man replied, "Yes! And super size them!"  And Satan said, "It is good." And Man went into cardiac arrest.  

God sighed and created quadruple bypass surgery.  

Then Satan created HMOs.  

Thought for the day ...... There is more money being spent on breast implants and Viagra today than on Alzheimer's research. This means that by 2040, there should be a large elderly population with perky boobs and huge erections and absolutely no recollection of what to do with them.

Being anal-retentive, I set out to find the provenance for the above.

I discovered that it is posted on all sorts of sites:

There is the Canadian Pagan (http://jagged.blogdrive.com/) site where you can link to a  Quizilla (http://quizilla.com/users/icemagick/quizzes/Who%20is%20your%20inner%20Shapeshifter%3F/) site to find out what kind of Shapeshifetr you are.

Then there was  Lipshtick of the Day (http://www.wendywing.com/August3.htm) where I found this Kimlet-like pearl:
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My husband and I ate lunch together today and I was eating my California Rolls.
     "What are in those?" he asked.
     "Crab, avocado and cucumber wrapped in seaweed and rolled in sticky rice," I explained.  "But it's not really not officially sushi since the crab is cooked."
      My husband thought for a second and then smiled, "Then it's pseudo-shi."

It seemed slim pickens (A Dr. Strangelove reference), but then I realized that the post I was sent had misspelled "Krispy Kreme"(as Creme) - furthur searching found What's UP Down South (http://whatsupdownsouth.blogspot.com/2003_06_01_whatsupdownsouth_archive.html) which offered up this advice:
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Just in case you've had a rough day, here is a stress management technique recommended in all the latest psychological texts. The funny part is that it really works.
1. Picture yourself near a stream.

2. Birds are softly chirping in the cool mountain air.

3. No one but you knows your secret place.

4. You are in total seclusion from the hectic world.

5. The soothing sound of a gentle waterfall fills the air with a cascade of serenity.

6. The water is crystal clear.

7. And you can easily make out the face of the person you're holding under the water.

der Brucer





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Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 10:56:44 AM
Who knew puppets could make me laugh and cry.. and say four-letter words... and have sex... in many different positions... and be gay... and...

What? You never knew about Howdy Doody?
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Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 10:57:20 AM
DRPANNI certain dines with the Hoi Polloi, does she not?

Jack Benny and Giselle MacKenzie.....so funny.  Jack Benny taking a piece of cake - free - going around and around and eventually even ending up with the card table and tablecloth and sign...  Jack Benny and Jayne Mansfield and their twin violins....

And Jack's joke:  "I don't want to say that my uncle drank a lot, but ten years after he died, his liver won a Charleston contest."

But even after more than 40 years, I still remember rolling on the floor when on The Steve Allen Show, the identity of John Beresford Tipton was going to be revealed....the chair turned and there sat Jack....doing his face and arm and hand schtick...
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Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 10:57:58 AM
Nice pictures DRJENNIFER!!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 30, 2004, 10:59:15 AM
My wall calendar is for the TV show Futurama.  I miss that show! :(

DR George, check the schedule on Cartoon Network.  I could have sworn that they picked it up, though I don't think they are making new episodes.
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Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 10:59:33 AM
I agree so heartily with DR CP - but then think how pale and imitative AND uncreative these "comedies" of today would appear if they were compared with some (not all) of the shows of the golden age?

Steve Allen's man on the street.....Tom Poston, Don Knotts, Louis Nye....

"Hi-ho, Steverino, Gordon Hathaway here...."
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Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 11:00:18 AM
DtM you are correct....I think FUTURAMA is part of the Sunday night line up on the Cartoon Network.  Might be part of the Adult Swim line up.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 30, 2004, 11:01:47 AM
Maybe it is bed bugs!

Ooooh!  Don't let them bite!
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Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 11:02:08 AM
Guy Haines singing the Schmidt and Jones Roadside sings:

Roadside,
Outside the chiggers bitin"

It's not detergent or soap, as I've been using the same brands for years and years.  I'm sure it's the fleas from Dr. Quinn, Medicine Dog.  

I do agree about Beverly Hills, and I do hate driving there, but I made the exception for Crustacaen - you do have to like seafood and you do have to like garlic, as their specialty is cracked crab (or whole crab) swimming in garlic and spices, and garlic noodles.  And I do believe I spoke out whilst in the restaurant about all the pretentious peckerheads seated around us.
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Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 11:07:44 AM
DRPANNI certain dines with the Hoi Polloi, does she not?

Yeah, I had to back out and curtsey as I left. BTW - One of the guests was recommending "Drawn Together" on the Comedy Channel. it's apparently a cartoon "reality show." Sounded outrageous and funny. Has anybody seen it?
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 30, 2004, 11:08:50 AM
DtM you are correct....I think FUTURAMA is part of the Sunday night line up on the Cartoon Network.  Might be part of the Adult Swim line up.

Speaking of Adult Swim, does any here "get" Aqua Teen Force (or whatever it's called)?  I watched a few episodes with my 13 year-old nephew the other day and while he was literally rolling on the floor, I was completely bewildered (also bothered, though not bewitched.)  It just wasn't the least bit funny to me.  I felt totally un-hip.
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Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 11:14:36 AM
 
 And I do believe I spoke out whilst in the restaurant about all the pretentious peckerheads seated around us.

Yes, you did - but in reality there was nobody seated around us. They knew we were interlopers, spies from the lowly Valley, and seated us next to the hallway to the restrooms, in a corner with potted plants surrounding us - like something out of a Peter Sellers movie.
Our own private little island of garlic.
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Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 11:19:48 AM
No, I meant the first time, when seated upstairs, amidst all the plastic surgery and people answering their cell phones whilst dining.
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Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 11:25:35 AM
I forgot to add that there was a huge portrait of the family who owns the restaurant right behind us, staring at us through the meal.
The location of the table reminded me to the "Special Table" that a certain well-known Canadian actor, now deceased, always demanded at the Windsor Arms, a very upscale hotel-restaurant in Toronto, frequented by the "in" show biz crowd from around the world. He was proud of the fact that a joint this classy had a table just for him. What he didn't seem to notice was that "his" was the table right next to the Restrooms.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on December 30, 2004, 11:25:43 AM
Actually the hoi polloi is the common people, the herd, the great unwashed, the masses.

Did you mean hoity-toity...?
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Post by: Jennifer on December 30, 2004, 11:30:54 AM
Hmmm, DR Panni that reality tv cartoon sounds right up my alley.  But we don't get the comedy network. :(
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Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 11:31:44 AM
No, I meant the first time, when seated upstairs, amidst all the plastic surgery and people answering their cell phones whilst dining.

Oh yes, that was charming.
You made some rather interesting and loud comments. (With which I agreed.) Some colorful words (not cameltoe - but starting with the same letter) were brought into play.  
Now I know why they seated us behind plants on the second visit! ;D
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Post by: Jennifer on December 30, 2004, 11:33:20 AM
I love seafood and garlic!

Btw, speaking of food, has anybody tried grilling frozen french fries?  I was just in the mood for fries (i just typed that 3 times, first i typed friends, then friens) with the ribs I made.  So I took out my George Foreman type grill.  And put some seasonings.  And they were so good!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 11:34:57 AM
Still looking for a gift for that special someone... or even for yourself... Very appropriate for this time of year...

-Courtesy of today's Washington Post:

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Slacker Tracker

By Jeff Turrentine
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, December 30, 2004; Page H03

Are we sure this is a good idea? If the problem is weakness about New Year's resolutions, is the answer really to rely on a logbook in which we must resolve to track -- daily and in great detail -- our progress toward fulfilling all those other resolutions we're in danger of breaking?

On the one hand, it's kind of cruel. On the other, it's kind of cool, this slim, spiral-bound enforcer of follow-through. Divided into three main sections, the resolution tracker allows you to chronicle your progress, calculate a reward strategy, and -- of greatest utility to slackers -- justify your lapses, even going so far as to provide a checklist of handy emotional excuses. (Hey, you were probably just feeling "unloved," "manic" or "overwhelmed" on that particular day. Check, check and check.)

Available at Coffee and the Works (1627 Connecticut Ave. NW), Politics & Prose (5015 Connecticut Ave. NW) and at both Washington locations of Pulp. Also available online at www.knockknock.biz.

(http://www.knockknock.biz/commerce/images/products/product_15106_l1.jpg) (http://www.knockknock.biz/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=231)

-Yes, you can click on the above image. And there are some other fun items available from Knock Knock.
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Post by: Jennifer on December 30, 2004, 11:36:09 AM
Can someone email me and tell me what cameltoe is please (so I don't have to go to the adult sites I get when I do a search). :)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 11:39:26 AM
I love seafood and garlic!

Btw, speaking of food, has anybody tried grilling frozen french fries?  I was just in the mood for fries (i just typed that 3 times, first i typed friends, then friens) with the ribs I made.  So I took out my George Foreman type grill.  And put some seasonings.  And they were so good!

...And just remember that in a pinch, an iron - no steam necessary - is perfect for reheating some leftover pizza!  It's ergonomically shaped for the process too!

;)

-Reminds of that cookbook that was out a few years ago, something along the lines of "The Coffee Maker Cookbook".  The author had come up with a bunch of recipes/meals that could be prepared in a Mr. Coffee.  Quite a fun read.  I never tried any of the recipes/methods on my own.

...Never...

:)
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Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 11:39:59 AM
Re Hoi polloi vs. hoity-toity... I'm an equal opportunity curtsey-er. Be it the unwashed hoi polloi or hoity-toity gents and dames, I back out of the room and curtsey.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on December 30, 2004, 11:40:57 AM
I have seen DRAWN TOGETHER. It follows SOUTH PARK...a truly funny and smart cartoon show.  

I found DRAWN TOGETHER, of which I've seen about three episodes, to be rather smarmy and sleazy, filled mostly cheap, gratitious, and easy sex jokes and smutty humour.  And this is coming from a guy who has no problem with low-brow or off-colour humour at all.  But this show, while there may be a laugh here or there, I found somewhat offensive and I felt like I wanted to take a bath after watching it.
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Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 11:43:29 AM
Okay. One less show to watch.
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Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 11:44:21 AM
I stand corrected DR CP.....that is what happens when you get your vocabulary from Three Stooges shorts.  And I will be looking forward to your precis etc about the Ibsen plays that I, too, had not heard of, but they sound fascinating.

THE AQUA TEEN FORCE consists of French Fries, a Shake, and a Meatball and I don't find them funny....I can't understand a word the Meatball says.  But I do like SeaLab 2021 - so sometimes I get stuck watching AQUA TEEN FORCE.

As for DRAWN TOGETHER.....it's another show I don't think is very funny.  The concept is.....yes....but the execution is something else.  I laugh at SOUTH PARK and its crude humor, but DT just seems to belabor the point that it is being "shocking" and isn't really nearly as clever.  IMHO....
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Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 11:44:37 AM
Fun as this is, I must write and rewrite and then write some more. Laters!
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Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 11:45:43 AM
And one less egg to fry.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 30, 2004, 11:47:15 AM
Of course, most real reality shows (which, of course, aren't really real either...how real can anything be when you know a camera may be on you), I find smarmy, offensive, and sleazy too...and want to take a bath after watching them...which is why I don't (watch them, not bathe...)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 11:47:40 AM
I watched a bit of POINT BLANK last night on TCM.  You know, when Angie Dickinson had a real part and a director, she was okay.  And I have to say, she is one stunner of a gal!

Anybody ever meet her or work with her?  Who wrote that jazzy theme for POLICE WOMAN....Pepper Anderson took no guff from nobody!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 30, 2004, 11:54:25 AM
JRand54, excellent critique of DRAWN TOGETHER. Laboured and forced and tries too hard to be shocking.  Not clever.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 30, 2004, 11:54:45 AM
Actually the hoi polloi is the common people...

I'll let JRand slide, but you're a pro:

"the hoi polloi" is rendundant! "Hoi polloi" is Greek for "the common people".

der Brucer
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 30, 2004, 11:59:31 AM
Can someone email me and tell me what cameltoe is please (so I don't have to go to the adult sites I get when I do a search). :)

Delicately put, it's slang for a women's crotch (see "fuzzy clam').

der font-of-knowledge Brucer
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 30, 2004, 12:01:56 PM
More specifically doesn't it mean the impression made when a lady is wearing a too-tight-pair of slacks?
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jane on December 30, 2004, 12:06:44 PM
Gangrene chat?  Lovely dinner conversation!  Bon appetit!  


LOL.  I'm a doctor's daughter and thought the conversation sounded very interesting.  ;D
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jane on December 30, 2004, 12:11:00 PM
I do agree about Beverly Hills, and I do hate driving there,

You are so sweet to have never told me that! :D
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jane on December 30, 2004, 12:16:23 PM
DRLaura thankfully Bogie is doing very well.  One trauma at a time is enough. ::)

This morning I changed my plans and took Echo on a lovely hike.  We met lots of nice people and dogs. :D

Jose does your food taste better now?

Jennifer, nice pics.

Now I’m going to soak in my new tub.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 30, 2004, 12:22:33 PM
(http://cameltoe.bolt.com/images/manintree.jpg)

Looks familiar - maybe it's the hat!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 30, 2004, 12:27:58 PM
More specifically doesn't it mean the impression made when a lady is wearing a too-tight-part of slacks?

Well, if the web is to be be believed, it can apply to men as well as women.

For an exhaustive treatment go to  The Camel Toe Report (http://cameltoe.bolt.com/)

They even sell hats!

(http://cameltoe.bolt.com/images/products/thumbs/cap.jpg)

I am der Brucer, and I do not approve of this topic
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 12:38:00 PM
Welcome back RLP
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Ann on December 30, 2004, 12:44:21 PM
Well, if the web is to be be believed, it can apply to men as well as women.

For an exhaustive treatment go to  The Camel Toe Report (http://cameltoe.bolt.com/)

They even sell hats!

(http://cameltoe.bolt.com/images/products/thumbs/cap.jpg)

I am der Brucer, and I do not approve of this topic

You guys!  You're all gonna get me fired!  Curiosity got the better of me, so I decided I had to find out what a cameltoe was...little did I know!  I'm at my boss' computer here!  Good thing I know how to delete the web history... ;D
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: DERBRUCER on December 30, 2004, 12:47:33 PM
NOW IT CAN BE TOLD!

 Top Scientists Warn: Sea Gods Angry (http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2004/12/news_briefs.html)  

Quote
Washington, DC - Pointing to the devastating weekend Indian Ocean tsunami that left over 24,000 dead, an international blue ribbon committee of climatologists and ecoscientists today issued a stark warning that man-made pollutants have increasingly "make water spirits angry."

The blunt conclusion prefaced a 2300 page meta-analysis of hundreds of scientific studies and computer models detailing links between human industrial activity and wrathful eco-deities. Entitled "Fire Bad: Fire Very Bad," the report warns that the planet faces additional catastrophies unless drastic regulatory action is taken to appease Earthen-furies.

"Unclean money devils anger sacred water spirit Tai-Waku," explained Martin Knudson of Scripps Oceanic Institute. "He now call angry to son the whale, 'make slap with anger-tails! Bring vengeance-surf to villagers!'"  

While most empirical evidence supports the theory of wrathful whale-tail slappings, some scientists are exploring alternative hypotheses for the weekend tsunami. Ecobiologist Jane Geary of UC Santa Cruz points to mounting evidence that the ocean spirit-world may have been driven to gastrointestinal rage by gas-guzzling SUVs.

"Thunder-wagon make smoke cloud of greenhouse gas," explained Geary. "hungry Tai-Waku eat smoke from thunder-wagon, pass giant wind with mighty fury."
Peter Novak, chief science officer of the Sierra Club, dismissed Geary's "Divine Fart" theory, arguing it was more likely that SUVs had triggered the tsunami via a spirit underword sexual encounter.

"Wheels of thunder-wagons wake up Big Earth Spirit-Mother, make to crazy tingle in hairy child-place. She now go to water lair of Tai-Waku, make big angry love on tectonic plate," said Novak. "Big Earth Spirit-Mother say, 'if ocean rocking, don't come a-knocking.'"

Although they disagree on the precise causes of the wrathful spirit world, scientists were largely unanimous in recommending immediate global regulatory action.

Remedial steps suggested in the report include ratification of the Kyoto treaty, elimination of automobiles, volcanic altars for virgin sacrifices, creation of a sustainable urine-based economy, and improved faculty dental benefits.

"If not act now, it too late," said report editor Paul Erlich of Stanford University.

Erlich, whose 1978 best seller "Ice Time Come Soon" is widely credited with saving millions of lives by warning of the massive age of glaciation that threatened Earth during the 1980s, said inaction might anger the spirit world further.

"Me not know when Tai-Waku make wrath again," said Erlich. "Me need more grant money."

der Brucer
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 12:52:47 PM
And now for something completely different... Or at least Page Five...
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 12:53:42 PM
..."Four" a second there I couldn't count...
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jennifer on December 30, 2004, 12:56:37 PM
Hmm, thanks for the explanations.  DR CharlesPogue's version seems to make sense. :)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 12:57:09 PM
In other news...

Bad: Jolly Times Microwave Popcorn - Caramel Apple Flavor.  Yuck! Yuck! Yuck!  -I just hope the smell in the house abates soon!  Smells bad, tastes worse.  -At least in my recent experience.

Good: Lake Champlain Aztec Style Hot Chocolate.  Very yummy.  Hot chocolate with a hint of cinnamon and a gentle heat from cayenne pepper(!).  -And it got the taste of the Caramel Apple Microwave popcorn taste out of my mouth too!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 30, 2004, 12:58:26 PM
BK must have a camel-toe baseball cap!  Thanks for the page, Der Brucer!  On the first page of celebrity camel-toes is a pic of pal, lucious June Wilkinson, on the cover of fifties men's mag, called RAPTURE, and she's displaying a fine camel-toe.  The haikus are hysterical!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 30, 2004, 01:01:55 PM
Excuse me, June's toe is displayed in Retro Toes!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 30, 2004, 01:10:14 PM
This page is killing me.  In toe-talk, they have other euphemisms for cameltoe...like crotch waffle or yo-yo smuggler.  This is one funny page!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 01:10:43 PM
Cameltoe
Cameltoe
I know it sounds a bit bizarre
But with cameltoe
Cameltoe
Your pants have gone too far

Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: elmore3003 on December 30, 2004, 01:16:01 PM
Great new Avatar DRDANISE!!

I, too, was remiss in commenting on it, and I think it's lovely.  Still, DRDanise, I miss seeing you there!

I've been out all day, first the recording office, then FINDING NEVERLAND with goddaughter Charlotte.  What a beautiful film!  The film's images brought to mind several things:
  1.  Johnny Depp and the dancing bear sequence reminded me of Frederick Ashton's ballet based on Rimbaud "Les Illuminations," interesting since the book that started the whole megillah, J.M. BARRIE AND THE LOST BOYS, promotes a latent pedophilic attachment between Barrie and the Llewelyn Davies boys.
  2.  Julie Christie's growing concern over Barrie brought to mind the great scene in DREAMCHILD when Mrs Liddell (Jane Asher) realizes Charles Dodson's regard for Alice may be more than she, or even he, imagined.  There's a lot of Wonderland in Neverland.
  3.  Kate Winslet's removal to Neverland, with the fairies in attendance, recalled Titania and her court.
  4.  The overall approach to the story reminded me of TOPSY-TURVY, which I thought was a better film.
  5.  I thought Dustin Hoffman as gay producer Charles Frohman, who died on the Lusitania, looked like Stephen Sondheim!
  6.  So, if Mrs Llewelyn Davies, nee du Maurier, is a relative of Gerald Du Maurier, why isn't he acknowledged as the original Capatain Hook/Mr Darling?
  7.  The original Peter Pan, Nina Boucicault, was the daughter (?) of Dion Boucicault, the Irish playwright.
  8.  The string quartet playing in the living room reminded me of the original performance of Wagner's "Siegfried Idyll."

Lots of resonances, a simplified  but moving version of a truly tragic story, and I loved it.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: La Jolie Femme on December 30, 2004, 01:18:21 PM
Hello! My first log-in and the topic is cameltoes? O.K.
I dare anyone to find a picture of Annette Funicello's cameltoe. Also, I have chosen to arise out of the myth of Lovely Wife to become a participant, limit idealism, despoil fantasy, and otherwise to  traipse in and out of B.K.'s world like so much fish.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: elmore3003 on December 30, 2004, 01:21:21 PM
Hmm, that seems like an okay size.  Here is me in front of the Xmas tree:



DRJennifer, great photo!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 01:25:01 PM
Newsflash - According to DD, who was stunned that before today I had not heard of the infamous toe,there is a rap song about cameltoe.

Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 01:31:28 PM

  2.  Julie Christie's growing concern over Barrie brought to mind the great scene in DREAMCHILD when Mrs Liddell (Jane Asher) realizes Charles Dodson's regard for Alice may be more than she, or even he, imagined.  There's a lot of Wonderland in Neverland.

DREAMCHILD is one of my favorite movies. Sadly, it's not widely known, even by film aficionados.

I also really enjoyed FINDING NEVERLAND.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: elmore3003 on December 30, 2004, 01:33:36 PM
Re Hoi polloi vs. hoity-toity... I'm an equal opportunity curtsey-er. Be it the unwashed hoi polloi or hoity-toity gents and dames, I back out of the room and curtsey.
DRPanni, a little help from Gilbert & Sullivan:
Your lordly style
   we'll quickly quench
With base canaille!
  (that word is French!)
Distinction ebbs
  before a herd
of vulgar plebs
  (A Latin word!)
"Twill fill with joy
  and madness stark
the hoi polloi
  (A Greek remark!)
One Latin word, one Greek remark
And one that's French!
 
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: elmore3003 on December 30, 2004, 01:37:44 PM
I watched a bit of POINT BLANK last night on TCM.  You know, when Angie Dickinson had a real part and a director, she was okay.  And I have to say, she is one stunner of a gal!

Anybody ever meet her or work with her?  Who wrote that jazzy theme for POLICE WOMAN....Pepper Anderson took no guff from nobody!

We did a Gershwin symposium at the Library of Congress together with many other Gershwin personnel around 1995.  Angie spoke about playing poker at Ira's house in a wonderful seminar on the Ira-Leonore Beverly Hills house on Roxbury.  I was on a panel about musical theatre orchestration and restoration with Russell Warner, Rob Fisher, John McGlinn, and Jonathan Tunick.

Miss Dickinson was a delight, and her stories were quite amusing.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 01:41:20 PM
PART TWO of News Flash - The rap song "Cameltoe" is by a girl group called Fanny Pack - and I gather there is a music video.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 01:43:38 PM
DRPanni, a little help from Gilbert & Sullivan:

I get by with a little help from my friends...
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 01:48:46 PM
Welcome, Jolie Femme.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 01:52:57 PM
UGH!!!!  The whole house still smells like chemically-produced faux-caramel apple stink!!!

Why-O! Why-O! Why-O!

But I guess it could be worse, it could smell like today's unseemly Topic of conversation.

::)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: elmore3003 on December 30, 2004, 01:56:22 PM
I'm still trying to decide if I learned anything this year.  Hmmmm . . .

What's that adage about new dogs and old tricks?
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Matt H. on December 30, 2004, 01:57:02 PM
DR Jose, thanks for your comments on the musical licensing agencies. We actors often have problems with the scores and scripts, too, full of unerased pencil and, with FOREVER PLAID if I'm remembering, piano scores that indicated notes that were different than what the actors had in their scores, VERY different.

Yep, Tams used to be the black sheep of musical licensers, but the last two or three Tams shows I did didn't have sides for the actors but regular scripts like the other agencies. TITANIC and NUNCRACKERS both had scripts rather than sides - thankfully.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 01:58:03 PM
Hello! My first log-in and the topic is cameltoes? O.K.
I dare anyone to find a picture of Annette Funicello's cameltoe. Also, I have chosen to arise out of the myth of Lovely Wife to become a participant, limit idealism, despoil fantasy, and otherwise to  traipse in and out of B.K.'s world like so much fish.

...Ooohhh... Then I guess his plan is working....

MWAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!
(That's supposed to be a maniacal laugh, preferably accompanied by some claps of thunder and strikes of lightning.)

Welcome!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 02:00:12 PM
I'm still trying to decide if I learned anything this year.  Hmmmm . . .

What's that adage about new dogs and old tricks?

Isn't there also that adage about old dogs and young tricks?

...But that discussion is best left for another day... And another internet site...

 :o
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Matt H. on December 30, 2004, 02:02:50 PM
MWAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!
(That's supposed to be a maniacal laugh, preferably accompanied by some claps of thunder and strikes of lightning.)



I thought it was Boris Badenov.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 02:03:10 PM
DR Jose, thanks for your comments on the musical licensing agencies. We actors often have problems with the scores and scripts, too, full of unerased pencil and, with FOREVER PLAID if I'm remembering, piano scores that indicated notes that were different than what the actors had in their scores, VERY different.

Yep, Tams used to be the black sheep of musical licensers, but the last two or three Tams shows I did didn't have sides for the actors but regular scripts like the other agencies. TITANIC and NUNCRACKERS both had scripts rather than sides - thankfully.

Tams more recent acquisitions are in "standard" format.  It's just too time-consuming and budget-consuming to have a team of people break apart the scripts into prompt books.  And since most shows are, hopefully - well "prepared" for their initial runs, all a licensing company has to do now is just transfer over the computer files - the text and music - into their system, and start up their printers.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 02:04:39 PM
...And to think that tight pants used to be a way to determine a man's religious affiliation...

;)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Matt H. on December 30, 2004, 02:05:52 PM
I just got this off the internet:

"NBC says production on the new L&O installment, Trial by Jury, starring Orbach, will continue. The series is set to debut in early 2005 and costars Bebe Neuwirth. Orbach will appear in three of the first six shows. "
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 02:15:46 PM
Watching Garden State - twenty-five minutes in and I must say its charms are totally eluding me.  I do know lots of people here loved it, so perhaps when Miss Portman enters the film I'll get with it.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 02:39:27 PM
Stick with the movie, BK - I'm hoping it'll be worth your time.

OK - I'm off to the theatre.. With, most likely, another trip to Macy's on the way...

Laters...
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: George on December 30, 2004, 02:40:00 PM
DR George, check the schedule on Cartoon Network.  I could have sworn that they picked it up, though I don't think they are making new episodes.

Yes, I know about that.  And I bought the DVDs.  It's new episodes that I want!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Matt H. on December 30, 2004, 02:43:38 PM
I just saw in the newspaper that there will be no mail delivery tomorrow or Saturday. Well, Saturday I expected, but what's with giving a holiday on New Year's Eve? Is this a first? I sure don't ever remember it happening before.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: elmore3003 on December 30, 2004, 02:44:19 PM
The news just announced that Artie Shaw died!  I didn't know he was still alive.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 02:46:17 PM
No mail tomorrow?  There better be mail tomorrow, or at least UPS, as my computer is due.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: George on December 30, 2004, 02:59:50 PM
Hello! My first log-in and the topic is cameltoes? O.K.
I dare anyone to find a picture of Annette Funicello's cameltoe. Also, I have chosen to arise out of the myth of Lovely Wife to become a participant, limit idealism, despoil fantasy, and otherwise to  traipse in and out of B.K.'s world like so much fish.

Welcome to HHW!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: S. Woody White on December 30, 2004, 03:00:33 PM
How old is the lad in question?  I have an  eleven year old who loves to read, and I try to read all her books along with her (or preferably before her)  maybe I can suggest a few titles?
The lad is seven.  And he's the type who doesn't like to try things, because he knows he won't like them...until he does try them and discovers that he likes them.  But he can't be forced into trying things.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: S. Woody White on December 30, 2004, 03:07:43 PM
Does anyone else use those daily tear-off-a-page calendars on their desks? Last year, there were so many TV show-based calendars to choose from. (The George Eads pics I've posted this year all came from the CSI calendar.)

This year, apart from I LOVE LUCY and THE SIMPSONS and JEOPARDY, I couldn't find any TV-show based daily calendars. I'll go out looking again tomorrow (since they're now at reduced prices).
If you wait another three months, they'll be even cheeper!

 ::)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: George on December 30, 2004, 03:14:36 PM
UGH!!!!  The whole house still smells like chemically-produced faux-caramel apple stink!!!

Why-O! Why-O! Why-O!

But I guess it could be worse, it could smell like today's unseemly Topic of conversation.

::)

All this excessive talk of the Topic of the Day is making me want to vomit on the ground!! (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/wuerg/vomit-smiley-003.gif)

 :-\
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jennifer on December 30, 2004, 03:18:49 PM
I was also totally captivated by DR Danise's new pic.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: S. Woody White on December 30, 2004, 03:19:36 PM
It says they make good recipe card holders!
But not in my kitchen.   :-X
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: S. Woody White on December 30, 2004, 03:33:16 PM
-And I have yet to find out exactly what a "chigger" is.  Lots of theories and speculation, but no real concrete answer.
A chigger is a small insect that loves to drink (usually 1 to 2 ounces at a time).
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: JMK on December 30, 2004, 03:38:32 PM
There is mail tomorrow, no regular mail delivery on Saturday (Express only).

Here's a Question for BK or any other film scholars out there in HHW land:  I just finished watching the new Criterion release of M, a film I had not seen in probably 20 or more years, and I swear when I saw it in college there was a scene of Lorre being chased over a seawall and him hiding there whilst people searched for him.  Is this some other film you can think of that I have somehow interpolated into this film?  Is it in the first Man Who Knew Too Much, perhaps?
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: elmore3003 on December 30, 2004, 03:41:26 PM

Here's a Question for BK or any other film scholars out there in HHW land:  I just finished watching the new Criterion release of M, a film I had not seen in probably 20 or more years, and I swear when I saw it in college there was a scene of Lorre being chased over a seawall and him hiding there whilst people searched for him.  Is this some other film you can think of that I have somehow interpolated into this film?  Is it in the first Man Who Knew Too Much, perhaps?

Could it be David Lean's GREAT EXPECTATIONS?
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 03:42:28 PM
The news just announced that Artie Shaw died!  I didn't know he was still alive.

My late friend, Doris the magnificent, will now be able to call him a &*%#@ to his face.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: elmore3003 on December 30, 2004, 03:48:08 PM
My late friend, Doris the magnificent, will now be able to call him a &*%#@ to his face.

How do you pronounce that?
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Sandra on December 30, 2004, 03:51:10 PM
I don't know if you'd call this a discovery, but I came across this furry brown meowing lump this year. He just walked in the door and made himself at home. He's been living here ever since.

He is currently swishing his tail all over the keyboard, making typing like going through an obstacle course.

The only other thing I've discovered this year is the new vocabulary word I learned today and wish I hadn't.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 03:54:47 PM
There is no scene in M like the one you describe.  I don't know what other movie it might have been from, but Lorre did many German and American pictures back then, including Man Who Knew Too Much, Secret Agent. Mad Love, etc.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 03:55:31 PM
And the topic of the day is not cameltoe - it's discoveries.

Welcome six GUESTS.  We're talkin' about 2004 discoveries.  And cameltoes.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: elmore3003 on December 30, 2004, 03:58:50 PM

Welcome six GUESTS.  We're talkin' about 2004 discoveries.  

I discovered I made no discoveries.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: elmore3003 on December 30, 2004, 03:59:08 PM
Only recoveries.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: S. Woody White on December 30, 2004, 04:01:50 PM
Hello! My first log-in and the topic is cameltoes? O.K.
Bonjour, La Jolie Femme!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Sandra on December 30, 2004, 04:10:47 PM
Welcome, new Dear Reader Jolie. Do you like Cherry Coke?
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 04:16:50 PM
Only recoveries.
Thank goodness for those DR Elmore. (I am sure it was goodness).
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: George on December 30, 2004, 04:31:50 PM
And the topic of the day is not cameltoe - it's discoveries.

Oops (Spoo spelled backwards)!  My bad! ::)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Charles Pogue on December 30, 2004, 04:34:10 PM
Artie Shaw may or may not have been a &*%#@, but he was an extraordinarily bright and talented guy who was one of the great, great musicians of our time.  I'll miss him!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Danise on December 30, 2004, 04:47:30 PM
Evening folks!

Thank you all for the compliments on the new avatar.  To answer DR Jane’s question, I am sorry to say that it is not me.  Just something I found when I was out and about on the net looking at free .gifs.   I think it is called “Dragon Flight”.  As soon as I saw it, I knew I had to have it.  You know how I love dragons/fantasy things.  You wouldn’t believe some of the other ones I found—Unicorns, Winged Horses, Gargoyles, Mermaids, etc.  

I would like to get a program to teach me how to do my own .gifs.  Some of them are so cool!

In case you didn’t notice, I was in an experimental mood last night.  I had to try to be “hidden” to see what it was like--and after I saw VixMom’s “Coming Soon” avatar, I had to see if I could do one as well.  

 I guess I should have done a New Years avatar.  Hum, something to think about.    

“Chiggers”.   We call also call them “Red Bugs”.  They were on the moss that grew on the trees.  They burrow under your skin and make you itch big time.  I can’t remember the cure for them.  

Speaking of discoveries, I just had a very nasty one when I came home tonight—an unpaid bill from my insurance company to the turn of over eight hundred dollars for some tests my doctor had done.  It is very safe to say I shall be calling Humana tomorrow.  Oh, yes.  Call them I will.  Words will fly.  

I guess the other BIG discovery of the year is that New York Hotels may or may not come with a bathtub standard!  LOL!  

Good vibes to DR Mathew!  

DR Jennifer, I like the pictures of pooch in her carriage
—just don’t go giving Bear any ideas!  :)
 
I also liked the double picture of you.  Just think how much a photo studio charges for a special effect like that.

Welcome to our newest poster, La Jolie Femme.  Your gonna love it here!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jennifer on December 30, 2004, 04:58:16 PM
DR Danise I was playing with the program.  And now look at Coco.  I also did one where she was the star on the Xmas tree beside me. :)
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Post by: Danise on December 30, 2004, 05:00:23 PM
Cool!
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Post by: JMK on December 30, 2004, 05:07:07 PM
Re:  Lorre.  I'm thinking it must indeed be one of the older Hitchcocks, which I saw around the same time I first saw M.  I'm quite certain the scene I'm remembering involves Lorre, that he's chased over a seawall and a bunch of vigilante types look for him, and IIRC (which, heaven knows, I may not be), actually find him and kill him.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 05:10:30 PM
Artie Shaw may or may not have been a &*%#@, but he was an extraordinarily bright and talented guy who was one of the great, great musicians of our time.  I'll miss him!

I didn't imply that he wasn't. He was all of those things. A great musician, a brilliant man. He was also a &8#*^@ as far as Doris, his ex-wife (one of many, obviously) and the mother of his only son, towards whom he behaved abominably, was concerned.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 05:11:29 PM
Finished Garden State.  It was fine.  Perfectly amiable.  And, like Lost in Translation, very overrated as these things tend to be.  I do like Natalie Portman very much.  And it's nice that movies like this can still get made, although it reeks of today's "independent" film marketing.  Interestingly, I think if Panni, Pogue or I had written this exact same script we would have been laughed out of every office in town.
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Post by: JMK on December 30, 2004, 05:16:16 PM
I'm telling you, if you want a completely unique and gratifying film experience, rent/buy Nowhere in Africa.
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Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 05:34:02 PM
I'm watching an Edgar Wallace film in German with no subs.  I like it better than dialogue in most American films.  

Has anyone seen something called Open Water?  I got it in the mail - it looks awful, but you never know.
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Post by: Danise on December 30, 2004, 05:37:02 PM
Sorry, but I've never heard of it.
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Post by: Danise on December 30, 2004, 05:42:36 PM
I was going to tell you all about a site I stumbled across the other day, it's called:  Really Useful Sites for Really Busy People


It really does have some nifty links.  Here's the address in case your interested.

http://pcworld.about.com/magazine/2102p080id107846.htm

Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 05:43:30 PM

Has anyone seen something called Open Water?  I got it in the mail - it looks awful, but you never know.

It sounds like my worst nightmare. I don't think you could pay me to watch it.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jane on December 30, 2004, 06:11:20 PM
DREAMCHILD is one of my favorite movies. Sadly, it's not widely known, even by film aficionados.


Sadly NETFIX doesn't have it.
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Post by: Jane on December 30, 2004, 06:15:14 PM
La Jolie Femme, aka The Lovely Wife, welcome! :D
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Post by: Jane on December 30, 2004, 06:26:11 PM
OPEN WATER has 3 ¼ stars out of 5 on NETFLIX.  “It's Jaws meets The Blair Witch Project when a vacationing couple on a scuba diving expedition accidentally gets left behind and must fend for themselves in shark-infested waters. Directed by Chris Kentis, the movie features unknown actors and was filmed on a shoestring budget, sans camera tricks or mechanical man-eaters. The circling sharks you see are … real!”

I thought it was based on a true story but don’t see any mention of that.
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Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 06:26:21 PM
I had not known that Dennis Potter wrote "Dreamchild". Another reason fro me to try and track it down.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jane on December 30, 2004, 06:27:23 PM
Tomovoz what is that on your avatar?

I'm on a roll.
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Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 06:28:13 PM
"Open Water" sounds like the real story of two American tourists exploring the Great Barrier Reef here in Oz a few years ago.
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Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 06:29:17 PM
DR Jane: Thought you would be the only person to ask and or recognise the pic.  Think blurred Prague!!!
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Post by: Jane on December 30, 2004, 06:30:51 PM
GOT IT!!  LOL
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Post by: Jane on December 30, 2004, 06:33:37 PM
"Open Water" sounds like the real story of two American tourists exploring the Great Barrier Reef here in Oz a few years ago.

That is it.  We didn't see it.

Please let me know if you track down DREAMCHILD.

Do you have an unblurred photo you can email me?  
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Post by: Jane on December 30, 2004, 06:39:00 PM
Yahoo has DREAMCHILD for only $549.99 (DVD).  I’m not that anxious to see it.
Amazon has used videos for much less, except I prefer a DVD.  
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jay on December 30, 2004, 06:39:00 PM
I saw The Woodsman today, Dear Readers.  A very well done film with a very fine performance by Mr. Kevin Bacon.  Mr. Bacon plays a man recently paroled from prison after a twelve year incarceration for child molestation.  We witness the internal conflict he suffers between his desire to be "normal" and fit back into society and his inappropriate sexual feelings towards young girls.

The film's point of view is non-judgmental.  Although neither Mr. Bacon's character nor child molestation is romanticized in the film, Mr. Bacon's character is decidedly humanized.  Well worth a look.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 06:42:57 PM
Postcard - hopefully not blurry is on its way DR Jane.

TCB:  Odd mail - not odd male.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: MBarnum on December 30, 2004, 06:43:49 PM
Is it a Golem Tom of Oz?
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 06:47:02 PM
A prize to Mr Barnum of Salem.
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Post by: MBarnum on December 30, 2004, 06:47:17 PM
Of course, most real reality shows (which, of course, aren't really real either...how real can anything be when you know a camera may be on you), I find smarmy, offensive, and sleazy too...

Smarmy and sleazy? Darn, I must be watching the wrong reality shows!

Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: MBarnum on December 30, 2004, 06:49:13 PM
And speaking of smarmy and sleazy, I just finished watching another made-in-Florida motion picture...the 1961 extravaganza BLAZE STARR GOES NUDIST!

I don't know what is becoming of me  ;)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 06:54:39 PM
Welcome Le Femme Jolie!

Where is RLP?  Is he back?

Thanks for the Angie Dickinson story DRELMORE and for the CD that arrived today!
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Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 06:55:31 PM
I am horrified that today's topic and Annette Funicello were mentioned in the same sentence!
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Post by: Sandra on December 30, 2004, 06:55:46 PM
My brother got a new drum. Oh joy. He's playing it now and it is loud.

In other news, I'm hungry.

That's all.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: MBarnum on December 30, 2004, 06:59:06 PM
Actually I must admit that I am now a big Blaze Starr fan! She is a most beautiful woman...and she has her own website where she sells her homemade jewelry....http://www.blazestarrsgems.com/ (http://www.blazestarrsgems.com/)


Former stripper/burlesque queen Blaze Starr


(http://images.andale.com/f2/123/103/6621941/1041878273529_imageblazestarr4x6show.jpg)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: George on December 30, 2004, 07:12:08 PM
OPEN WATER has 3 ¼ stars out of 5 on NETFLIX.  “It's Jaws meets The Blair Witch Project when a vacationing couple on a scuba diving expedition accidentally gets left behind and must fend for themselves in shark-infested waters. Directed by Chris Kentis, the movie features unknown actors and was filmed on a shoestring budget, sans camera tricks or mechanical man-eaters. The circling sharks you see are … real!”

I thought it was based on a true story but don’t see any mention of that.

According to IMBd, Open Water (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374102/) is "Based on the true story of two scuba divers accidentally stranded in shark infested waters after their tour boat has left."  It's rated at 6.1 stars out of 10.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jane on December 30, 2004, 07:19:32 PM
MBarnum did you receive my email?
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jay on December 30, 2004, 07:29:57 PM
Dear Reader MBarnum, did you receive my e-mail?

Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Michael on December 30, 2004, 07:32:47 PM
I also have to give a positive vote for Dreamchild. I even remember seeing it in Toronto at the Carleton Street Cineplex Cinema. It used to be one big theater next to old Toronto Gardens hockey arena. I saw the Poseidon Adventure when it first came out. I couldn't see it in Montreal because it was rated at the time 14 years and over (and I wasn't) but was able to see it in Toronto
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Michael on December 30, 2004, 07:39:36 PM
Artie Shaw was married to some interesting people

Spouses

Evelyn Keyes (1957 - 2004) She of Gone With the Wind

Doris Dowling (1952 - 1956) (divorced) (Panni's friend) Probably best known for the role of the barfly and drinking companion to fellow alcoholic Ray Milland in the sobering classic film The Lost Weekend (1945).

Kathleen Winsor (1946 - 1948) (divorced)
She wrote the novel Forever Amber

Ava Gardner (17 October 1945 - 25 October 1946) (divorced) 1 week

Elizabeth Kern (1942 - ?) (divorced) 1 child (Jerome Kern's daughter)

Lana Turner (13 February 1940 - 12 September 1940) (divorced)
8 months

Jane Carns (? - ?) (annulled)

Margaret Allen (? - ?) (divorced)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 07:45:42 PM
DRPANNI - I watched the TCM year end Memorial....and Doris isn't included!  I don't know who to email, but it is a shocking oversight!  They show her movies all the time.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: MBarnum on December 30, 2004, 07:52:59 PM
To DR Jane and DR Jay: Yes, and Yes! And Jay, you just cracked me up! LOL!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: MBarnum on December 30, 2004, 07:55:28 PM
For those DRs who lived through the late 70s and early 80s, I am surprised that you were not aware of Cameltoe-ism! LOL! It seemed to be a unfortunately common thing back then in women's jeans!! Uhg!

I guess that is one of the good things about today's baggy, loose fitting jeans!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 08:26:35 PM
I think there is an OZ lurker out there!  Welcome. Or are you just a friend of Dot. (Over the Rainbow and not down Under)
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Post by: Matt H. on December 30, 2004, 08:27:32 PM
Another vote for DREAMCHILD, a haunting and beautifully done film.
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Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 08:28:33 PM
Hmmmmmmmm I don't know from DREAMCHILD....another HHW discovery for me!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 08:29:03 PM
I shall have to look around locally for "Dreamchild". Sounds like a must see.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Matt H. on December 30, 2004, 08:30:01 PM
Natalie Portman is in my opinion just dreadful in the first two STAR WARS films, especially the second one where the dialogue she has to say and the goo-goo eyes she has to make to the forgettable Hayden Christiansen are embarrassing to say the least.

However, I understand she's the best thing about CLOSER, so maybe she's a better actress than I've given her credit for being. No one has emerged from those STAR WARS prequels with any glory.
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Post by: Matt H. on December 30, 2004, 08:34:22 PM
Happy to say that at the gift swapping tonight, I finally came home with the Julie Andrews/CINDERELLA. I was thinking I was going to have to order it for myself tonight after I got home. Glad I'll have it to look at tomorrow, and I can erase the recorded-from-PBS copy that's been on my DVR for the past few weeks.

Also got THE BOSTON STRANGLER, COME BACK LITTLE SHEBA, I COULD GO ON SINGING, and one more whose title escapes me at the moment.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 30, 2004, 08:49:32 PM
During an impromptu trip to the Cherry Hill Mall today, I decided to use up a gift certificate I got from my niece for Christmas.  I picked up the LOTR:ROTK extended set and then spotted a Jack Benny set which I couldn't resist.  Five DVDs with 24 episodes (there seems to be an abundance of New Year's themed shows.)  I'm not sure if the show with the little girl playing Jack's violin is included.  After watching To Have And To Have Not on TCM tonight (during which I fell in love with Lauren Bacall again), I watched two of the Benny shows and laughed myself silly.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Dan (the Man) on December 30, 2004, 08:52:00 PM
Welcome to the very lovely new DR La Joilie Femme!

And Tomovoz, great new avatar photo!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 08:54:24 PM
Thanks DtM. Recycled from this time last year!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 08:54:53 PM
Good Evening!

I didn't do too much damage at Macy's tonight.  Not much at all.  There were actually quite a few "temptations" tonight - I seemed to notice more things on sale, and, as it turned it there was some more stuff put on sale today, so...  I ended up buying a nice chef's pan for my brother, Jay, as a sort of combined Christmas and Birthday present.

Then came the show... What a show we had tonight.  When I got there, the tech crew was running around all over the place.  Apparently, the sound board just would not turn on when the soundboard operator got there at 6:30.  So they had to swap it out.  Of course, the big wrinkle was that the soundboard they were using was brought down from George Street, and any spare ones they had at Arena were totally different models.  After much swearing, running around, and reprogramming, they got the new board up and running by 7:30.  However, due to the differences between the boards, the board op was more or less running the show on the fly tonight.  And she did a great job!  The only thing they weren't able to get patched in correctly were the backstage and band monitors, but according to the people in the house, everything sounded fine from where they were.  And it was kind of nice playing "deaf".  We all had to listen to each other carefully, and the conductor also had to turn up his ears a bit more tonight too.  -Just when things start to get comfortable...  *As a reward/consolation, the theatre management opened up the intermission bar after the show for the crew and cast - first round of drinks was on the theatre!

...I didn't stick around for the free cocktails - feeling kind of tired after the show.  I just headed on home, and I've been trying my best not to snack on too many of those Filipino sweets my brother brought back from San Diego.  Must resist... Must resist...
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Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 08:56:17 PM
My New Year's Eve viewing will be LOTR ROTK. I'm looking forward to the extra scenes.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 09:13:16 PM
On the way in to the show, I heard an interesting piece on the news in relation to the horrible tsunami and its aftermath.  Apparently, they have not found any dead animals.  Not even a dead rabbit from the report I heard.  The theory is that the animals sensed the coming danger and headed further inland for protection.  Interesting...

However, having the death toll pass the 100,000 mark today has been very sobering and sad.  And just the fact the death toll is rising by the thousands as opposed to the tens or hundreds... It's just unfathomable.
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Post by: Joey on December 30, 2004, 09:14:41 PM
Hello everyone! I've had a not so eventful past few days but at the same time I haven't found as much time to get online.

My most exciting news tonight is that my marathon pretraining is going well. I ran 3 miles tonight in 30 minutes as opposed to about 2.5 miles in a half hour last time I ran. It's a lot different than I expected it to be, but what is ever like you expect it to be? It's just a lot of fun and so far I am very glad I decided to do this.

I went to see Meet the Fockers with my parents tonight and it was nice to get out and see a movie and just be able to laugh. I will unfortunately be unable to be at the big party tomorrow as I will be about two hours away at a friends house. She is spending the year in the Americorps and she has a short break for Christmas. Several of us are going to go up and just have a really good time. I haven't seen her since the beginning of the summer so it will be nice to catch up.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 09:47:06 PM
When you get ready to watch I COULD GO ON SINGING drMATTH, let me know, there is one line of dialog I can NEVER hear or understand.
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Post by: Jrand73 on December 30, 2004, 09:48:06 PM
Great story, DRJOSE.  Technical people are so under rated by so many people - until something like that happens.

I have run sound and lights and sometimes sound AND lights - and it is a science!
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 30, 2004, 09:50:06 PM
I heard an interesting piece on the news in relation to the horrible tsunami and its aftermath.  Apparently, they have not found any dead animals.  

Here is the AP Story (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,142989,00.html):

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Did Animals Sense Tsunami?

Thursday, December 30, 2004

YALA NATIONAL PARK, Sri Lanka — Wildlife officials in Sri Lanka (search) expressed surprise Wednesday that they found no evidence of large-scale animal deaths from the tsunamis — indicating that animals may have sensed the wave coming and fled to higher ground.

An Associated Press photographer who flew over Sri Lanka's Yala National Park in an air force helicopter saw abundant wildlife, including elephants, buffalo, deer, and not a single animal corpse.

Floodwaters from Sunday's tsunami swept into the park, uprooting trees and toppling cars onto their roofs — one red car even ended up on top of a huge tree — but the animals apparently were not harmed and may have sought out high ground, said Gehan de Silva Wijeyeratne, whose Jetwing Eco Holidays ran a hotel in the park.

"This is very interesting. I am finding bodies of humans, but I have yet to see a dead animal," said Wijeyeratne, whose hotel in the park was destroyed.

"Maybe what we think is true, that animals have a sixth sense," Wijeyeratne said.

Yala, Sri Lanka's largest wildlife reserve, is home to 200 Asian Elephants, crocodile, wild boar, water buffalo and gray langur monkeys. The park also has Asia's highest concentration of leopards. The Yala reserve covers 391 square miles, but only 56 square miles are open to tourists.

The human death toll in Sri Lanka surpassed 21,000. Forty foreigners were among 200 people in Yala who were killed.


My own amateur opinion would be that some of the animals may have a hightened sensitivity to earth motion and may well have detected the underlying earthquake.

der Brucer
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Post by: DERBRUCER on December 30, 2004, 10:04:18 PM
The Washington Post  (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25980-2004Dec25.html) details my livestock dilemma:

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Backyard Battle With Furry Thief Planted a Seed
By David A. Fahrenthold
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 26, 2004; Page C01

In the beginning -- before Bill Adler Jr. became an author, a self-help guru or a guest on the "Rosie O'Donnell Show" -- there was a confrontation between man and squirrel.

On one side of the window was Adler: former lobbyist, fledgling freelance writer and proud new owner of a bird feeder.

On the other side was a gray squirrel. Lounging inside Adler's feeder. Eating the birdseed.

"The feeder was not for the squirrel. It was for the birds," Adler remembers thinking that day in 1987. "So I got mad."
...
That squirrel launched my writing career," he said. "I guess I shouldn't have been so mad at it."

To understand Adler's story, it is important for those who don't feed the birds to understand how those who do feel about squirrels.

They aren't cute. This crowd knows that squirrels are capable of impossible leaps, upside-down dangles and other ninja moves in order to raid bird feeders.

They also know that squirrels do not share with birds: They are furry thieves, driven beyond decency in their all-consuming quest for the next nut.

"They're in the same family as rats and mice," said Steve R. Runnels, president and chief executive of the 20,000-member American Birding Association. "They just look good."

Over the years, some birders have just given up and accepted them. Some have waged their own campaigns aimed at confusing, frightening or frustrating them into eating the neighbor's birdseed instead.

"Feed 'em or defeat 'em," said John Schaust, chief naturalist for Wild Birds Unlimited, a chain of birding supply stores.

Adler, who would come to champion the "defeat 'em" camp, grew up in Manhattan, barely aware that squirrels existed. Then he moved to the District, quit his job in politics and set up a home office in his apartment in Cleveland Park.

He bought a feeder to entertain himself. And then the squirrel showed up.

Trying to get rid of it, Adler banged on the window. He sprayed the wall with slippery Teflon. He built a fortress of old Perrier bottles around the bird feeder. He waited in ambush with a child's dart gun.

None of it kept the hungry animal away for long.

After a while, it struck Adler that there was a larger principle at stake here.

"If we can't outwit squirrels, who have brains the size of walnuts, how can we ever get a man or woman to Mars?" he said. "It's a matter of pride."

Adler interviewed experts and spent a few mornings crawling around his yard on all fours. He wanted to see the feeder from a squirrel's perspective, he said.

He used this insight to write a book. Among other tactics, the book recommends putting plastic shields, called baffles, around feeders and smearing the area around the feeder with a squirrel-repellent mixture of Vaseline and red pepper.

To this serious advice, Adler added a leavening of humor. Dig a moat around your feeder, he advised. Fill it with piranhas.

"Build a special cannon," the book counsels in another section. "It'll be about 10 feet long and six inches wide and will fire cats. Aim this catgun directly at squirrels."
...

der Brucer (who has noticed that while the squirrels are raiding the bird feeder, the birds swoop down and pluck corn kernals off of the squirrels' cobs while other feathered friends are flying off with the squirels' peanuts.)
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Post by: JoseSPiano on December 30, 2004, 10:08:25 PM
And then there was this bit of news too:

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Scientists: Quake may have made Earth wobble
Wednesday, December 29, 2004 Posted: 2:44 PM EST (1944 GMT)

Scientists believe that a shift of mass toward the Earth's center during the quake caused the planet to spin 3 microseconds faster and to tilt about an inch on its axis.
     
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- The deadly Asian earthquake may have permanently accelerated the Earth's rotation, shortening days by a fraction of a second and caused the planet to wobble on its axis, U.S. scientists said Tuesday.

Richard Gross, a geophysicist with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California, theorized that a shift of mass toward the Earth's center during the quake Sunday caused the planet to spin 3 microseconds, or millionths of a second, faster and to tilt about an inch on its axis.

When one huge tectonic plate beneath the Indian Ocean was forced below the edge of another "it had the effect of making the Earth more compact and spinning faster," Gross said.

Gross said changes predicted by his model probably are too minuscule to be detected by a global positioning satellite network that routinely measures changes in Earth's spin, but said the data may reveal a slight wobble.

The Earth's poles travel a circular path that normally varies by about 33 feet , so an added wobble of an inch is unlikely to cause long-term effects, he said.

"That continual motion is just used to changing," Gross said. "The rotation is not actually that precise. The Earth does slow down and change its rate of rotation."

When those tiny variations accumulate, planetary scientists must add a "leap second" to the end of a year, something that has not been done in many years, Gross said.

Scientists have long theorized that changes on the Earth's surface such as tide and groundwater shifts and weather could affect its spin but they have not had precise measurements to prove it, Caltech seismologist Hiroo Kanamori said.

"Even for a very large event, the effect is very small," Kanamori said. "It's very difficult to change the rotation rate substantially."
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 11:00:30 PM
DRPANNI - I watched the TCM year end Memorial....and Doris isn't included!  I don't know who to email, but it is a shocking oversight!  They show her movies all the time.

It's a fickle business (show, that is). I'll ask around about who to e-mail.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 11:02:27 PM
Good to know that so many DRs think highly of DREAMCHILD. I'm going to try and hunt down a decent copy. I have a not so great cassette dub.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Panni on December 30, 2004, 11:20:50 PM
Saw SIDEWAYS tonight. Interesting that a number of younger people (20's) I've talked with are not blown away by it. I really do think it's a movie for people who've lived life a little. Aged like a good wine.
Great performances. Excellent script. And funny. Bittersweet, but really funny.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: Tomovoz on December 30, 2004, 11:40:56 PM
I've been searching for Dreamchild. Found a store in Melbourne that lists the video on its rentals so shall investigate next week.
Have a friend who works around the corner from the Video shop - that's what friends are for.....(A "Night Shift" reference - for those who remember whence the song really came!!)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: bk on December 30, 2004, 11:49:22 PM
Ten minutes and then the fnal notes of 2004 will be up.
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: S. Woody White on December 30, 2004, 11:51:09 PM
Der Brucer wanted me to tell everyone that I discovered roasting beets this year.

Silly boy, he forgets how I was roasting them in the toaster oven back in Long Beach, well before we moved.

(But I did discover saucing them with a combo of orange juice and Dijon mustard tonight.  Yummers!)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: S. Woody White on December 30, 2004, 11:52:09 PM
Even I'm not sure what a "fnal" is.   ::)
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: George on December 30, 2004, 11:58:10 PM
Okay, I hate to admit that it's taken me this long to get to it, but I've finished the "first act" of BK's very own "Writer's Block."  So far, I love what's been written and the writing style.  I'm about to find out what's going to happen next!
Title: Re:CAMELTOE
Post by: George on December 30, 2004, 11:58:39 PM
I read the first half in one sitting...no breaks!