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Title: THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:00:36 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you've gotten comfortable with the notes, you've Frenched the notes, and now it is time for you to post until the cows with the plunging necklines come home.
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:07:39 AM
Just as I went to post the notes, AOL "quit" for about the eighth time today.  I had to reinsert the notes into the form after I logged on - which is why they went up late.  A POX on AOL.  
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 12:09:10 AM
Happy birthday to DR Pogue!
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Post by: Tomovoz on January 18, 2005, 12:11:05 AM
Happy Birthday Mr Pogue.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Tomovoz on January 18, 2005, 12:14:58 AM
I don't really enjoy "Sports" films much at all - particularly anything to do with Boxing. "Cool Running" was quite fun but way ahead of every thing else IMHO is "Breaking Away".
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:15:51 AM
Sports movies: I like Ice Castles for skating, Pride of the Yankees for baseball, I hate football so I don't know from football movies, Strangers on a Train for tennis, the Harlem Globetrotters movie from the fifties for basketball, and Slap Shot for hockey.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:18:40 AM
I'm doing the meringue right now - it is fun, especially in a chiffon gown with plunging neckline.

Welcome five GUESTS.
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:19:27 AM
I still think a wonderful film could be made about wrestling - there have been a few, but they're all lousy.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 12:19:29 AM
BK, glad to each Mr. Eastwood is on his usual form.  As you say, no pretention, nothing to prove, no look at how clever I am.  Just finding the best way to tell the story.  He also respects writers by not taking a possessive credit.  A class act.  Looking forward to seeing this movie.  My birthday wish this year is for Clint Eastwood dust off one of those great scripts of mine lying around and take it out and shoot it.

My favourite sport is baseball.  I watch and root for the Cincinnati Reds and have since I was a boy in the fifties watching them play in Crosley Field and were called the Cincinnati Redlegs ( so no commie baiters would confuse them for reds of a Russkie sort).  I follow the Reds these days until they break my heart somewhere before the All-star break, then I don't open the sports page again until Spring Training starts in February.   My only other sport is Scrabble.

I'll have to think about sports movies.  But as I'm now another year older, I must wuss out for tonight.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:21:44 AM
I was thinking what it would have been like if Scorsese had made Million Dollar Baby and Eastwood had made The Aviator.  Scorsese would have hyped up MDB like crazy - it would have been all about him, all about Oscar bait, just as his The Aviator is.  Whereas, if Clint had done The Aviator, that film might have actually told a story and been good.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:22:56 AM
Has Ann caught up?

Less than seven hundred posts till our new plateau.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:23:19 AM
Meringue!
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 12:23:49 AM
Yes, Breaking Away was a lovely film. I also liked Bull Durham; Stay Hungry; The Hustler; Pride of the Yankees; Rocky; the documentaries When They Were Kings and Pumping Iron.
I'm sure there are more. It's actually surprising that for someone who is not really into sports, there are so many sports movies I like. I suppose it's because they're good movies which happen to take place in that world.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Tomovoz on January 18, 2005, 12:26:39 AM
I enjoyed "Bend It Like Beckham" - I guess that counts too!
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:29:04 AM
Not only has Ann not caught up, she's not even looking at the board.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 12:30:55 AM
I still think a wonderful film could be made about wrestling - there have been a few, but they're all lousy.

It's not really "about wrestling" -- but wrestling at a school level is an important element in THE WORLD ACCORDING TO GARP.

And then there's always that artiste, Hulk Hogan.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 12:33:07 AM
I seem to be a copying you, Tomovoz, but I also enjoyed Bend it Like Beckham.

I think my Japanese food was spiked with caffeine. I am SO awake.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:36:35 AM
Meringue!
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 12:36:37 AM
Dear BK: What color chiffon?

 ::)
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:37:13 AM
Why pink, of course.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 12:37:14 AM
Bang the Drum Slowly - was that TV? A good football movie. And I wrote a football TV-movie  - hard as that may be to believe.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 12:38:18 AM
let me get this straight -- we're discussing cross-dressing and sports. Am I correct?
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:38:29 AM
 Bang the Drum Slowly was a film, not TV.  Brian's Song was TV and I liked that one even though it was football.  Oh, and Fear Strikes Out is good if you like baseball mixed with mental illness.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:38:57 AM
Oh, and how could I leave out my favorite baseball movie, The Bad News Bears.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 12:38:58 AM
Which reminds me -- Joe Namath used to do a pantyhose ad.
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:47:27 AM
Did you know that when I was in my early twenties I played on a softball team for about six months.  Other players included Richard Dreyfuss, Angela Cartwright, Charlie Martin Smith, and more.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 12:57:31 AM
Sad to be all alone in the world.  I guess I'll toddle off to bed, since I don't feel like doing a monologue.  
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 12:59:34 AM
Why pink, of course.
I'd have thought apricot, much better for your skin tone.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 01:00:28 AM
I ATE an apricot whilst wearing it, does that count?

And before I go, may I just say one word:

Meringue!
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 01:02:50 AM
Am I spelling "meringue" correctly.  Or am I talking about lemon meringue pie?
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 01:03:48 AM
While not a fave of our BK's, I enjoyed Chariots of Fire for it's photography and score.

For years, I was a scorekeeper for a number of gay softball teams, first with the Los Angeles league and later with the league in Long Beach.  Der Brucer and I met because the team I was keeping score for that year was sponsored by a bar where he was a regular.  (The details, while tres risque, needn't be detailed just now.)  I understand that The Lonely Hearts Club includes gay softball as part of it's story, but I haven't seen it yet.  And I don't think anyone has done a film about scorekeepers.  Ever.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 01:03:51 AM
Is anybody there?  Does anybody care?  Does anybody see what I see?
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 01:05:21 AM
I think it's mAringue.  But I'm not sure.  But you can lead while we figure it out during our page two dance!
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 01:06:44 AM
...Oh, and Fear Strikes Out is good if you like baseball mixed with mental illness.
Hey, a film about umpires!  (Several I've met, at least.   :-\ ;D)
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 01:07:35 AM
I'd like to see a film about vampire umpires.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 01:08:07 AM
I keep meaning to go to bed but I look so damnably attractive in this chiffon gown with the plunging neckline.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 01:09:23 AM
It occurs to me that I could achieve my new plateau of 9000 posts at the same time as the board achieves its new plateau of 90,000 posts.  Then I'll sing Ten Percent.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 01:10:12 AM
Doesn't chiffon wrinkle?
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 01:11:53 AM
I've decided The Scorekeeper's Manifesto would make a great title...for something.   It has a great rhythm, and sounds important.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 01:12:43 AM
My chiffon is permanent press.  Marvelous stuff really.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 01:14:08 AM
Welcome five GUESTS.  What in tarnation are you doing up this late?  

Meringue!
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 01:18:48 AM
One thing I like about this family of mine is that the grandlads are already learning to play ball, as in the baseball variants.  Their mom and dad are both involved, he with the actual coaching, she with keeping the dugout organized (which gives her lots of opportunities to scream at people).  Der B and I went to the games once last year.  The younger grandlad (4) played first, the older lad (7) played the second game.

During that second game, I walked the younger one over to a nearby playground.  It's all a part of ladsitting and being a grandperson.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 01:21:06 AM
I've also seen it spelled "Merengue"... but your spelling seems to be the most popular.
Unless you want to LIMBO.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 01:22:01 AM
bk seems to have gone to bed. Perhaps the chiffon was wilting.
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Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 01:23:58 AM
I guess, I'll make my way to the bedroom. The Japanese food is still making me very perky. Perhaps I'll do the merengue/meringue in bed.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 01:28:28 AM
Now THAT sounds even more risque than the story I wasn't going to tell tonight!   :o   ;)
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Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 01:29:30 AM
The hours are very wee here, and I should toddle.   :-*
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on January 18, 2005, 03:31:27 AM
 Happy birthday to DR Pogue!
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Post by: Hisaka on January 18, 2005, 03:43:10 AM
My iBook was sick, very sick, and had been in hospital for three and half days. So I couldnít read the notes or the posts either during its absenceÖ. I missed you. In fact, I donít post much as other DRs do, because of my English, but I would like everyone to know that I enjoy to be at HHW every time I visit. Yes, I really enjoy to read your DRs discussion/chat and, of course, dear BKís daily notes.  Itís good for me to learn practical English as well.
Well, I go back to read the posts on past dates, maybe have to read from the day of I, POD. :) :) :)
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Post by: Hisaka on January 18, 2005, 03:46:31 AM

Happy Birthday to you, DR POGUE!!!
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 18, 2005, 04:26:17 AM
I guess, I'll make my way to the bedroom. The Japanese food is still making me very perky. Perhaps I'll do the merengue/meringue in bed.

Isn't it easier to stock a can of Reddi-Whip in the fridge?

Good morning, all!  Dear Friend BK, it's my short-term memory that we saw two movies at the Directors Guild; one was JURASSIC PARK, but I forgot the other.  Am I remembering correctly?[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]

 :o :o ;D :-* ::) :) ;D DR CHARLES POGUE, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!! :o ;D :o ;D :-* ::) :) ;D[/move]

Sports movies?  Here goes:
BREAKING AWAY
SLAP SHOT
BULL DURHAM
KANSAS CITY BOMBER
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on January 18, 2005, 05:25:49 AM
[move=right,scroll,6,transparent,100%]! ! ! ! !  HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO DR CHARLES POGUE  ! ! ! ! ![/move]
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 18, 2005, 05:31:47 AM
Does BEST IN SHOW qualify as a sports movie?
Another favorite: DAMN YANKEES.

BAD NEWS BEARS is at the top of my list as well. I also enjoyed CASEY'S SHADOW, another sports-related (race-horsing) movie with Walter Matthau.
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 18, 2005, 05:32:51 AM
And a happy birthday to DR Charles Pogue!
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Post by: Kerry on January 18, 2005, 05:42:38 AM
Happy Birthday to Charles Pogue.   I think Bruce SHOULD wear the pink chiffon with the plunging neckline to dinner with the Pogues tonight.  It may not be quite the same as Bunny Peggy, but I'm sure Bruce will look marvelous.  Bruce, will you wear a lavalier?

I love "Bull Durham," but then I also like baseball.  But even if I didn't like baseball,  I'd still like "Bull Durham."

There aren't any really good swimming or diving or gymnast movies.   I liked Sonja Henie and Esther Williams movies. Do those count?  Yumpin' Yimney!!!!

I liked "Rocky" (the first one) and "The Longest Yard" when I saw them, but i'm not a huge sports fan.  Hence, I'm not a huge sports movie fan.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on January 18, 2005, 05:47:57 AM
My favorite sport is baseball.  Baseball been very, very good to me!  It's the one sport I play(ed) half decently and I love attending major and minor league games.  Here in Philly, we have our perennial heartbreakers, the Philadelphia Phillies and across the river, in a very beautiful park beneath the Bejamin Franklin Bridge in Camden, NJ, we have the Riversharks.

I like watching football, too, but mostly only up through the playoffs.  Once the regular games are over, NFL Football begins taking itself too seriously.  This season has been an exception for me, though, with the Philadelphia Eagles playing better than ever and almost in sight of the Super Bowl.  But this city has been down this path for four years now, each time ending in bitter disappointment.  But once again, our hearts are hoping...

Favorite Sports Movies:
Field of Dreams
The Natural
Nine Men Out
Pride of the Yankees
Bull Durham
61
The Bad News Bears
Major League

And some non-baseball sports movies:
North Forty Dallas
Friday Night Lights
Slap Shot
Hoosiers
The Longest Yard
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Jennifer on January 18, 2005, 05:49:18 AM
DR Jane, I don't think I"ve ever tried an egg bagel.  What exactly is it?  And why do you prefer it to regular bagels?  Bagels are pretty popular here (and you can get them everywhere).  So I'd like to know what to look for.
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Post by: Ben on January 18, 2005, 05:52:38 AM
I have much catching up to do since I was E&T for the weekend. First best birthday wishes to DRs Noel and Charles Pogue.

Breaking Away is the film that comes to mind for me.

Need to catch up now and also perform work for which I am paid a salary every 12th and 28th of each month.

TTFN
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Post by: Jennifer on January 18, 2005, 06:06:09 AM
DR Jenny, it is nice to see you again!'

Sorry about RAGTIME.  But why would the principal wait till the week before to cancel the show?  That is crazy!
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Post by: td on January 18, 2005, 06:16:23 AM
Seeings as so many of my choices have been mentiong - notably FEAR STRIKES OUT, I'll add:
ANGELS IN THE OUTFIELD - the original
THAT TOUCH OF MINK - it's a stretch, but perhaps a seventh inning stretch. . .
BRIAN'S SONG also has a lovely Michel Legrand score.
THE LONGEST YARD
ANY GIVEN SUNDAY (Oliver Stone in straightforward mode)
ANNIE GET YOUR GUN - well, there are several sharp shooting sequences
. . . and then there's that season two episode of BUFFY, "Go Fish" about the swim team, creatures from the Black Lagoon and guest star Conchita Farrell. . .
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Jennifer on January 18, 2005, 06:18:48 AM
Happy Birthday DR Charles Pogue!
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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 06:42:03 AM
Which reminds me -- Joe Namath used to do a pantyhose ad.
And he's Hungarian!
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 06:42:53 AM
Happy Non-Playboy Club Birthday to DR CHARLES POGUE!
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 06:45:41 AM
A lot of my favorite sports movies have been mentioned, so I will mention them again:

SLAPSHOT - so funny with good performances by everyone

EIGHT MEN OUT - kinda long and boring, but I was in it for a second

Two Robby Benson movies:  ICE CASTLES and ONE ON ONE

I think BANG THE DRUM SLOWLY was a television drama first and then a movie.

HOOSIERS for obvious reasons.

THREE WISHES which has a Little League subplot.  One of my favorite movies of ANY kind.
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 06:46:16 AM
Welcome back DRJENNY!

MBARNUM - I didn't know you had an Apple computer.  Don't you have to have an Apple to use the I, Pod?
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on January 18, 2005, 06:51:12 AM
EIGHT MEN OUT - kinda long and boring, but I was in it for a second


Oops! (!spoo)  I named this as Nine Men Out in my list of favorites.

Quote
I think BANG THE DRUM SLOWLY was a television drama first and then a movie.

And it's about baseball, not football.
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 06:55:12 AM
Yes I saw that DtM - You must have been counting me and adding me to the title....thanks!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on January 18, 2005, 06:56:34 AM
iDan is playing with iCoworker's iPod.  uGuess iWho is getting one of these babies next!  Idaho?  Ida iPod Ho! Hodie, hodie ho! Mares eat oats and iDoes oats and little lambs eat iVy.

More coffee, anyone?
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 06:57:24 AM
Here is your Allison Hayes Picture of the Week!  It is 1955 and she is backing her car out of the garage of the house that DRJAY photographed for me last summer.  As he will confirm, that is no small feat!   ;D

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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 06:59:25 AM
Happy birthday DR Charles Pogue

I sincerly hope that your birthday wish comes true and all the cast, orchestrations and crew spots are filled by HHW members (myself excepted unless they have the sudden need of a real estate paralegal!!)
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Ginny on January 18, 2005, 07:02:03 AM
A Graeter's ice cream, Skyline chili, all-things-Cincinnati Happy Birthday to DR Charles Pogue!
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 07:07:00 AM
DR Jane, I can get you as many delicous egg bagels as you may wish, there is a lovely bagel bakery one block from my home.

When my best friend was in the in the Airforce and stationed in Nebraska she yearned for a good Jewisg Rye, so I would buy them, freeze them , wrapped them in Foil and then plastic backs and send them to her by express mail when they arrived they had defrosted during the trip and were as fresh as when I bought them from the bakery .

I would be happy to do the same for you.  They also sometimes have egg and bacon bagels, and I can also get rye, pumpernickel, etc...tell me your pleasure and I will see if I can accomadate you!!
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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 07:08:33 AM
iDan is playing with iCoworker's iPod.  uGuess iWho is getting one of these babies next!  Idaho?  Ida iPod Ho! Hodie, hodie ho! Mares eat oats and iDoes oats and little lambs eat iVy.

More coffee, anyone?

a kid'll eat ivy too wouldn't you?
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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 07:10:54 AM
TOD

A League of Their Own
Men with Brooms
Hoosiers
Bend It Like Beckham
Slapshot
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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 07:15:25 AM
and one I cannot think of the name of now...Allied POWS playing soccer against the Nazis.. a little help anybody?
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 18, 2005, 07:15:51 AM
From today's NY Times obituary of Thelma White, who "played a hard-boiled blonde named Mae who peddles "demon weed" to unsuspecting young people in REEFER MADNESS."

A musical and comedy actress who made more than 40 movies, Ms. White was horrified when RKO Studios picked her for the antidrug film. But because of her contract, she had little choice but to accept the role.

"I'm ashamed to say that it's the only one of my films that's become a classic," she told The Los Angeles Times in an interview in 1987. "I hide my head when I think about it."

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Post by: MBarnum on January 18, 2005, 07:17:38 AM

MBARNUM - I didn't know you had an Apple computer.  Don't you have to have an Apple to use the I, Pod?

Uh, oh...I don't have an Apple...do I need an Apple? Shows how much I know about computer and the new technology! LOL!
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: MBarnum on January 18, 2005, 07:24:19 AM
Happy Birthday to DR Charles Pogue

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Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: MBarnum on January 18, 2005, 07:25:14 AM
DR Hisaka, we always enjoy your posts! And I am glad that your computer is back to normal!
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Post by: MBarnum on January 18, 2005, 07:27:00 AM
DR Jose,

The movie you are looking for is titled DEVDAS. I have not seen it but I understand it is quite good. I don't care too much for the lead actor in it so I have not searched it out...but eventually I will probably watch it.

You can order it from www.indiaweekly.com (http://www.indiaweekly.com) or perhaps even Netflix.
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Post by: Ginny on January 18, 2005, 07:28:33 AM
Uh, oh...I don't have an Apple...do I need an Apple? Shows how much I know about computer and the new technology! LOL!

From the box my iPod mini (blue, of course) came in:

"Windows Requirements - PC with FireWire or USB 2.0 card; Windows 2000 with Service Pack 4 or later, or Windows XP Home or Professional"

I'm not sure what all that means, DR MBarnum, but I think it means that you don't have to have an Apple computer in order to use an iPod.
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Post by: MBarnum on January 18, 2005, 07:29:02 AM
JRand54, I LOVED that Allison pic! Where is that one from?

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Post by: George on January 18, 2005, 07:41:35 AM
Very Happy Birthday to DR Charles Edward Pogue!!

I've never been a sports fan.  Last year, my niece had me take her to some Seattle Storm women's basketball games (she's a fanatic!) and I've thoroughly enjoyed going to those.  But I have no interest in watching any other sports.  As for sports movies, I'm not specifically a fan of the genre, but these are the ones that I like very much...and can think of, although all have already been mentioned ::) (in alphabetical order, of course):

The Bad News Bears
The Bad News Bears in Breaking Training
Bend It Like Beckham
Breaking Away
Chariots of Fire
Hoosiers
Ice Castles
A League of Their Own

There was also a made-for-TV movie that I only saw part (and can't remember the title) of that was about the first modern Olympics.  My sister loves this movie.  The only part that I can remember was about the discus throwers.  They had practiced in America but didn't really know what they were doing.  When they got to Greece, some Greek women had to show them how to throw it correctly.  Anyway, when they're at the actual competition, they are handed the official Olympic-sized discus and it turns out that it's so much smaller and lighter than what they'd been using!  They had made their discus with the weight in pounds but didn't realize that the specifications that they were sent had been in kilograms!  They won very easily.  That's the only part that I can remember.
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Post by: George on January 18, 2005, 07:44:22 AM
Today at work, I will not be at work!  Our library system (where I work) is getting an entirely new computer system!  They took the old computers off-line Sunday night at 8:00 p.m. and they won't be back up until noon tomorrow.  Today, one of the selectors has to go to Seattle and asked if I wanted to go too.  I said, "yes!"  So I'm going to Seattle...I'm getting paid to go on a field trip!  So, have a good day, all!
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Post by: MBarnum on January 18, 2005, 07:58:00 AM
TOD: There was a film made in the 50s about golfer Ben Hogan that I liked when I was a kid, but I can't think of the title...also enjoyed IT HAPPENED IN ATHENS which revolves around the Olympics in Greece.

As for my favorite sports...diving, bodybuilding, bowling, hmmmm...I guess that is about it...I do enjoy looking at the football players, but don't really enjoy the sport.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 18, 2005, 07:59:04 AM
Happy Birthday, Charles Pogue.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 18, 2005, 08:08:33 AM
When I was in undergraduate school, I had to take Personal and Community Health to gain my teacher's license. During that course, we had to pick a sport and write a term paper on some phase of it. Because I was such a movie buff, I chose boxing because there had been SO many movies in which boxing was featured, and I had seen many of them either at the movies or on TV.

May seem strange coming from the likes of a Broadway baby like me, but as I thought about the films (and read about them to do additional research, Manny Farber's excellent essay "Fight Films" was a major source of information), I gained a tremendous amount of respect for men who chose to earn their living doing this. It's not an easy life.

Anyway, I thought then and I still think now that the finest boxing movie ever made is THE HARDER THEY FALL, Bogart's last movie. I honestly like it better than ROCKY or RAGING BULL (neither of which had been made when I wrote that term paper). It contains the fewest cliches, tells a very interesting and involving number of stories about fascinating people, and contains some riveting performances from Bogart, Rod Steiger, Jan Sterling, and Mike Lane as the tragic boxer who's too naive to know what's happening to him. I also like THE SET-UP, a Tony Curtis programmer THE SQUARE JUNGLE, and CHAMPION (Kirk Douglas' first Oscar nominated performance).
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Post by: Matt H. on January 18, 2005, 08:11:15 AM
As for other sports, my favorite films about them:

baseball - *61 (love PRIDE OF THE YANKEES, too)

football - BRIAN'S SONG (the original; liked NORTH DALLAS FORTY, too, and ANY GIVEN SUNDAY)

basketball - THE ABSENT MINDED PROFESSOR

hockey - SLAP SHOT

I guess my favorite sport is figure skating, but I haven't liked any of the movies in which it was featured.
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Post by: TCB on January 18, 2005, 08:11:15 AM
Hmmmm, sports-themed movies
.

My favorite would have to be HEAVEN CAN WAIT (The Warren Beatty version).  I realize that sports are really only a secondary theme in the film; but, hey, football is football.  Other sports films would be:

THE NATURAL
FIELD OF DREAMS
ICE CASTLES
DAMN YANKEES
TAKE DOWN (1979) Lorenzo Lamas and Edward Herrmann
BRIAN'S SONG (TV)
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Post by: Elan on January 18, 2005, 08:12:02 AM
In no particular order:

Oh, and the combination of Clint Eastwood and Bruce in chiffon made me think of this:
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Post by: Matt H. on January 18, 2005, 08:15:56 AM
Thanks for mentioning FIELD OF DREAMS, DR TCB. I love that movie, too.
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 08:16:03 AM
DRMBARNUM that photo was from the 1955 Hollywood Stars magazine article about Allison titled you ought to be in pictures.  I think I sent you copies of it.....she is also pictured with her poodle and running up and down the stairs carrying several pairs of shoes.

If you don't have it, let me know.
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Post by: TCB on January 18, 2005, 08:16:26 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY,

DR CHARLES POGUE!


(http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/sehrgrosse/large-smiley-007.gif)
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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 08:28:47 AM
I'm doing the meringue right now - it is fun, especially in a chiffon gown with plunging neckline.

.
bk is this the gown?

http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/frenchatheart/pkchifr01.JPG?allow_mailing_list=1&owner_id=798532&allow_track_link=1&track=022c3a466a-c2f44&pt=bidpay&sp=1
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Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 08:36:41 AM
I forgot about *61 and many have already mentioned Slap Shot, but I'll add it to my list. Ditto Champion and The Harder They Fall.
Then there was the Canadian hockey flick, FACE-OFF, the tender love story of a rough tuff hockey player and a hippie-chick type singer, which should be remembered because (1) I worked on it for a day (in a party scene, I think) and (2) it has one of the great taglines:
"A story of two people... two worlds... one love."
SCTV did a takeoff.
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Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 08:37:09 AM
Oh - And how about The Cincinatti Kid? And Searching for Bobby Fischer? Okay, it's a stretch sports-wise - but Poker and Chess are sports of the mind, no?
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Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 08:42:41 AM
and one I cannot think of the name of now...Allied POWS playing soccer against the Nazis.. a little help anybody?

That would be VICTORY, with Michael Caine, directed by John Huston, I think.
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Post by: Jennifer on January 18, 2005, 08:46:27 AM
I love going to sporting events: football, baseball, hockey.  I love the Olympics.

I find I can really get into most sports if I have a team to cheer for. That makes a big difference for me.

About 10 years ago I was a huge baseball fan.  Listened and watched every game for my team.  Now I'm not so much.  Although I am enjoying the NFL playoff games this year (although that's football and i was talking baseball).
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Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 08:46:51 AM
Welcome back, DR Hisaka!

Okay, enough of this idle chit-chat and chiffon frivolity. I must take a brisk,  mind-clearing walk and then write my little buns off.

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Post by: JMK on January 18, 2005, 08:51:29 AM
Happy Birthday, Charles Pogue.  You are a week ahead of my sister, whose birthday is on the 25th.

Re:  Virgins.  I had a semi-popular band here in the 80s that did an original tune of mine called "In 20th Century Pompeii" (this was shortly after Mt. St. Helens erupted), which had the opening line:  A cthonic rumbling/And we'd sacrifice a virgin/But there ain't one to be found

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Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 08:52:43 AM
I love the Olympics.

Which reminds me -- One thing I forgot to mention the other day -- in searching for something among my old papers on the weekend, I ran across a post card my cousin had sent from the Munich Olympics (he was an official with the Hungarian team -- housed not far from the Israeli athletes). Everything was going beautifully when he sent the card. Frightening how things can change in an instant.
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 09:14:42 AM
Good morning!  

Dear reader Hisaka is back and all is well with the world.  The flowers are abloom again here at haineshisway.com.  And we're glad that the computer is feeling well, too.

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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 09:17:58 AM
Here is your Allison Hayes Picture of the Week!  It is 1955 and she is backing her car out of the garage of the house that DRJAY photographed for me last summer.  As he will confirm, that is no small feat!   ;D

Ummm...JRand54....them ain't feat.  Them is bazooms!
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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 09:19:08 AM
Happy Birthday, Charles Pogue.  You are a week ahead of my sister, whose birthday is on the 25th.


That seems to be a popular day for birthdays. my Dad and my sister-in-law and my good friend, her husband and her father were all born on 1/25 !

I guess it's true about what they say a young man's  (and woman's ) thoughts turn to in Spring!!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 09:21:42 AM
I like "Adam's Rib" as a sports movie.

And...."Players", anyone?  Anybody at all??????

And I'm fond of "It Happens Every Spring", too.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 09:24:50 AM
Great Googolly-Moogollies!

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Happy Birthday, Charles Pogue![/move]

Many Happy Returns of the Day!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on January 18, 2005, 09:39:24 AM
I like "Adam's Rib" as a sports movie.


U mean Pat & Mike?

Quote

And...."Players", anyone?  Anybody at all??????

Tennis movie with Ali McGraw?  I remember the title, I think...
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 09:40:56 AM
Yikes:

"Pat and Mike" is right.  Thanks, Dan!
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 09:41:05 AM
Looks like it will be another swellegant day here in Los Angeles, California, USA.  And another day in which I won't be able to use the swimming facilities.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 09:46:17 AM
Yes, "Players" starred Ali McGraw and Dean Paul Martin.

Other "sports" movies:

"The Cutting Edge"

"Ice Castles"
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 09:46:55 AM
Did anyone mention "Gymkata" starring Kurt Thomas?

It was a consolation prize for having been prevented from competing in the Moscow Olympics when President Carter "boycotted" them on behalf of the American people.

Quite the snoozer.

Or its twin, "American Anthem" starring Mitch Gaylord?

Woof!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on January 18, 2005, 09:50:28 AM
Ice Skating...  I seem to have seen quite a few ice skating scenes on TCM lately:  Joseph Cotton and Jennifer Jones in Portrait of Jeannie, Joseph Cotton (again) and Loretta Young in The Farmer's Daughter, Bette Davis and Richard Travis in The Man Who Came To Dinner, Loretta Young (again) and Cary Grant in The Bishop's Wife.
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 09:52:57 AM
I also remember liking Angels in the Outfield with Paul Douglas.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on January 18, 2005, 09:54:12 AM
The Olympic movie of all Olympic movies:  Personal Best!
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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 09:54:23 AM
Ice Skating...  I seem to have seen quite a few ice skating scenes on TCM lately:  Joseph Cotton and Jennifer Jones in Portrait of Jeannie, Joseph Cotton (again) and Loretta Young in The Farmer's Daughter, Bette Davis and Richard Travis in The Man Who Came To Dinner, Loretta Young (again) and Cary Grant in The Bishop's Wife.

Not to mention Robin Williams and Ed Norton in  "Death To Smoochy" on COM yesterday!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 10:20:29 AM
What was that movie with Robin Williams and Kurt Russell, et al, about former high school football players trying to relive the game that got away????
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 10:22:07 AM
Has anyone else been afflicted with a cold that just won't go away?

I've been dealing with this for more than a week, and it seems to manifest itself differently day by day.

Today, I am feeling tired and a tad bit dizzy.  Disoriented a little.

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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 18, 2005, 10:23:00 AM
Good Afternoon!

I've read the Notes, but I have yet to read the Posts, so...  Forgive me if there's some redundancy in my current post...

DR Pogue - HAPPY BIRTHDAY!  Have a wonderful day!  And tomorrow!  And the day after that!  And so on and so on...!!!  *And be sure to that BK doesn't have too much whipped cream tonight!

;)

Sports movies - "Bend It Like Beckham", "Chariots of Fire", "Rudy" (always good for a happy cry), "A League Of Our Own", "Field of Dreams" (another good cry), "Ice Castles"...

Sports - Baseball - I was born in Boston, so I'm a Red Sox fan by birth.  -Even if I'm admittedly a fair-weather fan at best.  I also like soccer - I played when I was younger.

And I think that covers everything for now...

I did manage to get up early today - well, early for me - and I proceeded to head out and run some errands.  Now, I must putter around the kitchen for a few hours..  I'll be back...

-Oh, and each time that I've come back home over the past couple of weeks, my roommate just seems to give me another reason - or two... or three - to move out of here...  Good grief!  -Although, at this point, I can say that I'm truly over it - almost.  So... No need to stress at this point.  Yes, a little bit of "upset" initially, but... What can you do?

OK...

Laters...
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Post by: Jane on January 18, 2005, 10:23:03 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHARLES POGUE!!

Jose I donít care for Einsteinís bagels-too chewy for my taste..  We had them in Michigan.  I think Bryan referred to them as Goya bagels (maybe that was a different store in Ann Arbor).

Panni-cute group pic.  You look like you had a fun time.  As always DD looks beautiful.

Now Iím off to do errands.  Within the next week I have to decide on new tile, counter tops,  etc. for out soon to be remodeled kitchen.  I will read todayís posts when I return.




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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 10:23:18 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6822858/?GT1=6065

Hey DR Elmore, doesn't this make you feel all warm and fuzzy?  

(Actually it's nice to meet someone so thoroughly of the same mindset as me. On coronation Election Day DH had to physically remove me from the room where the TV is as I was shouting unkind things about the intelligence levels of the American people as a whole and threatening to move to Canada...except its so $%*^ cold!!!)
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Post by: JMK on January 18, 2005, 10:23:24 AM
Can someone (BK, didn't you mention this a while back?) tell me if the first season Night Gallery DVDs include the original two hour movie with Joan Crawford and Fritz Weaver?  It says "original pilot" but I'm not sure that's what it means.  TIA.  :)
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Post by: Jane on January 18, 2005, 10:24:42 AM
Ron FEEL BETTER VIBES!

When I get a cold it tends to linger.  If you can find watermellon at this time of year try some.  Also sleep elevated.
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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 10:25:27 AM
That would be VICTORY, with Michael Caine, directed by John Huston, I think.

Thank you Panni!
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Post by: JoseSPiano on January 18, 2005, 10:27:50 AM
Has anyone else been afflicted with a cold that just won't go away?

I've been dealing with this for more than a week, and it seems to manifest itself differently day by day.

Today, I am feeling tired and a tad bit dizzy.  Disoriented a little.



<Raising my hand>

I guess I had one lingering for about three weeks.  First it was my throat.  Then some nasal stuff.  Then my throat again.  Then that pesky left tonsil thingy.

Thankfully, I do feel pretty much back to normal now.  I just need to make sure to keep hydrated so my throat doesn't get all scratchy.  I guess whatever I had just had to run it's course.  -Although, I think the extra doses of Vitamin C that I would take throughout the day also helped.

Feel Better Soon, Ron.

-Would some cookies help?

;)
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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 10:29:38 AM
Has anyone else been afflicted with a cold that just won't go away?

I've been dealing with this for more than a week, and it seems to manifest itself differently day by day.

Today, I am feeling tired and a tad bit dizzy.  Disoriented a little.



DR Ron, I suggest you try AlkaSeltzer cold medicine,  I also suggest you try the orange flavored one as the original will make you gag

sincerly Vixmom (I'm not  a Dr,  I just play one on HHW)

and Good Health Vibes to you!!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Post by: Dan-in-Toronto on January 18, 2005, 10:29:39 AM
Almost forgot - A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN.
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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 10:30:26 AM
Speakingof Good Health Vibes how are DR Ann and DR Elmore faring?

Good Health vibes to you two too!
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 10:41:32 AM
Thanks all for your birthday felicitations.  It will alas, be a whirlwind of insurance people, doctors, and car salesmen this week.  Ginny, your Skyline chili wish made my mouth water (though I'm actually a Dixie chili guy...though Skyline, Gold Star, any will do).

Most of my favourite sports movies have been named:  BULL DURHAM, EIGHT MEN OUT, 61.

A few others high on my list:  REQUIEM FOR A HEAVYWEIGHT...Anthony Quinn, Jackie Gleason, and Mickey Rooney all at the top of their game.  GENTLEMAN JIM...one of Errol Flynn's best movies and one of his best performances.  Does THE SWIMMER with Burt Lancaster count?  I'm fascinated by this movie.  It doesn't wholly work, but I love it.

A recent sports movie I quite enjoyed was FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS about high school football and football mania in Odessa, Texas.  I worked in Odessa a couple of years (at the Globe of the Great Southwest...a Shakespeare Theatre, believe it or not) and can attest to the mania of football there.  I also went to a high school in Northern Kentucky, Highlands, where there was a milder form of the same mania and pressure on the players to perform...we were division champs year after year and went to state many times.  Losing was not considered.

One sport movie I've never seen but I hear is great is THIS SPORTING LIFE with Richard Harris.

One sport movie that's rep has always mystified me...RAGING BULL.  People consider it Sorcese's best, but it just sort of leaves me cold.  There are a lot of Scorcese film I like better.

I also thought the whole DeNiro gaining weight thing was the height of pretentious performing.  I prefer Olivier's admonishment to Dustin Hoffman when he had stayed up all night, because his character was supposed to be sleep-deprived in the scene the were shooting for Marathon Man:  "Try acting, dear boy."  
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Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 10:48:05 AM
I first ran across THE SWIMMER on TV late one night in Canada as I was channel surfing. I was totally mesmerized. I've seen it a number of times since then (not recently, alas) and like it more each time. Great score by the very young Marvin Hamlisch.
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Post by: Cillaliz on January 18, 2005, 10:55:49 AM
Thanks for mentioning FIELD OF DREAMS, DR TCB. I love that movie, too.

I love it too, of course I do live in Iowa.  Last I knew they still have the baseball field set up near Dyersville and people still stop to hit a ball, have a catch and run  the bases.  Ok, I admit it, I've been there.....
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Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 10:55:52 AM
***FEEL BETTER VIBES TO ALL YOU LOVELY PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE DARK WHO NEED THEM!***
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Post by: Cillaliz on January 18, 2005, 10:56:07 AM
Oh and Happy Birthday DR Charles Pogue
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 10:59:19 AM
As long-time readers of these here notes know, I am obsessed with The Swimmer, which I've been touting for over twenty years.  It's one of the strangest movies ever made, but one that, despite its problems, is what movie-making is all about.  It had a lot of studio problems, and Janice Rule was a replacement for the original actress in that scene (Barbara Loden, I think) - in fact, the Rule version of the scene wasn't shot by director Frank Perry, it was shot by, if I recall correctly, Sidney Pollack.  It's directorially different than anything else in the film, but that only adds to the film's overall strange quality, which is what I love about it.  One of Burt Lancaster's greatest performance.  And, oh, that girl - Janet Landgaard.  Whatever happened to HER?

I, too, love Requiem for a Heavyweight (the film), and love its brilliant score by Laurence Rosenthal.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 11:06:08 AM
Yes, THE SWIMMER is strange, mesmerizing, and wholly watchable.  I remember being intrigued with it when I first saw a preview of it in a theatre when it was initially released.  It wasn't until years later that I caught it channel-flicking and was hooked in about ten seconds.  I've seen it several times since, though I'm still not sure whether I ever caught the first five minutes of the thing.  It is indeed what movie-making is all about.
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Post by: Jay on January 18, 2005, 11:08:21 AM
Do chariot races count?  If so, add Ben-Hur to the list.  (Either version.)
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 11:12:18 AM
Just got an hysterical birthday greeting from Miss Tammy Minoff, which alas, I can't share with you.  Ain't I a tease?  But, my, it was FUNNY!  I laughed and laughed...and then laughed some more.
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Post by: Tomovoz on January 18, 2005, 11:20:59 AM
Of course there is the great Australian Dance Sport movie "Strictly Ballroom".
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Post by: vixmom on January 18, 2005, 11:29:25 AM
Thanks all for your birthday felicitations.  It will alas, be a whirlwind of insurance people, doctors, and car salesmen this week.  .

Here you are Charles, perhaps this will solve one of your dliemmas! (I understand they're built like a tank!)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4520848120&category=6304

I hope you're all feeling unbruised and un-achey by your birthday dinner tonight
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 11:54:30 AM
I'm having a deelightful day so far.  Just sitting here doing interesting things, hopefully interestingly.  In a little while I shall venture out into the world to do a few errands that need doing.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 18, 2005, 11:58:01 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6822858/?GT1=6065

Hey DR Elmore, doesn't this make you feel all warm and fuzzy?  


So warm and fuzzy I could plotz!

Movies I forgot earlier:
DAMN YANKEES (How could I?)
MASH (the only football game I ever enjoyed)
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Post by: Sandra on January 18, 2005, 12:06:03 PM
MASH (the only football game I ever enjoyed)

I was about to say that!
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Post by: TCB on January 18, 2005, 12:07:06 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHARLES POGUE!!

Jose I donít care for Einsteinís bagels-too chewy for my taste..  We had them in Michigan.  I think Bryan referred to them as Goya bagels (maybe that was a different store in Ann Arbor).

Panni-cute group pic.  You look like you had a fun time.  As always DD looks beautiful.




....... As always, DD AND Panni look beautiful.  And boyfriend is kind of cute, as well.
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Post by: Sandra on January 18, 2005, 12:10:50 PM
Happy birthday, Pogue!

Well, the first day of school is going swimmingly (to keep with the sports theme), although so far I've only had two classes. When my Rhetoric class starts up, things probably won't be especially pleasant.

My favorite sport is fencing (there's a surprise) and so my favorite sports movie is The Princess Bride (that counts!). I don't really know from any other sport, although I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed the Olympic trampoline event, which, I noticed, got more air time than fencing for some reason.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 12:16:28 PM
"The Best of Times" is the name of that movie I was trying to remember with Robin Williams and Kurt Russell and the high school football game.

DR Jane:  By "sleep elevated", I'm not quite sure what you mean....I live on the top floor of a 4-story condo...is that high enough?  : )

DR Vixmom:  Thanks for the Alka Seltzer recommendation.

Dr. JoseSPiano:  Cookies would be wonderful, but I don't need them at all!!!!  If you get my drift.....
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 12:19:09 PM
"The Swimmer" is absolutely the finest work Burt Lancaster ever did, and it's one of the best performances any actor ever gave.

I had this on videotape at one time....but can't for the life of me remember whether I placed it in storage or, gasp!, taped over it.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 12:20:51 PM
DR Sandra:  Is there such a thing as "cherry Coke underpants"???????
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Post by: Sandra on January 18, 2005, 12:22:06 PM
And since we're talking about sports and this story probably wouldn't be appropriate for any other topic, I will now tell you the story of my favorite fencing move, the Hungarian Ommedes Thrust.

My first fencing instructor, Skip, was in the Olympics. He came in fourth place, which has to be the biggest disappointment ever. The day before he was scheduled to fence the bout that was for all the proverbial marbles, he went into the sauna and just so happened to walk in on the Hungarian fencer and some lady doing something I would rather not say. Said Hungarian fencer was not very happy with Skip.

The next day, it turned out that the fencer Skip was up against was his old Hungarian friend from the sauna. The Hungarian fellow had the grand-daddy of all grudges against poor Skip and got him in the eight line (you-know-where) using what I now call the Hungarian Ommedes Thrust, in honor of that crazy Hungarian. (No offense to our own crazy Hungarian.) It cost poor Skip the bronze medal.

Wasn't that a great story?
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Post by: Sandra on January 18, 2005, 12:23:02 PM
DR Sandra:  Is there such a thing as "cherry Coke underpants"???????

Not that I know of. And I would be the one to know.
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Post by: MBarnum on January 18, 2005, 12:28:02 PM
DRMBARNUM that photo was from the 1955 Hollywood Stars magazine article about Allison titled you ought to be in pictures.  I think I sent you copies of it.....she is also pictured with her poodle and running up and down the stairs carrying several pairs of shoes.

If you don't have it, let me know.

I don't believe I have those JRand54! I do, however, have a magazine on it's way via Ebay that is supposed to have an Allison article or photos in it.
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Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 12:37:48 PM
Great story, DR Sandra! If you like Hungarian fencing (what's not to like? ... And the lady in the sauna would, I'm certain, agree) you should watch SUNSHINE. A long and tragic tale, but lots of neat fencing.
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Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 12:38:49 PM
Thank you, DR TCB!
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Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 12:39:12 PM
And one for Mahler.
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Post by: ozderek on January 18, 2005, 12:40:48 PM
good morning all ....

... does anybody know if there is still a film option out there for "THE LONELINESS OF THE LONG DISTANCE RUNNER" ???????

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Post by: Matt H. on January 18, 2005, 01:13:23 PM
I could not disagree with you more, Charles Pogue, about DeNiro's weight gain for RAGING BULL. There is no way you can act middle age paunch. You either have the weight or you don't. Are you saying you would have preferred a fat suit? I wouldn't have. It gave that portion of the film a reality that would have been SO fake if he hadn't looked paunchy and out of shape.

Olivier's catty comment to Dustin Hoffman about staying up all night to portray exhaustion had a ring of truth in it for certain, but gaining weight to play the middle aged Jake LaMotta is another kettle of fish entirely.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 18, 2005, 01:15:37 PM
I put HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN back in the DVD player today. I had a middling reaction to the film when I saw it in theaters last summer, but I'm gaining a greater respect for it the more I see it.
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Post by: Matt H. on January 18, 2005, 01:18:34 PM
After HARRY POTTER concluded, I put in the Vanessa Williams/Jason Alexander BYE BYE BIRDIE in the DVD player. I think the TV-movie has some serious miscasting, but I have to say I rather enjoyed the first three numbers when the movie plays straight through, and there are no commercials.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 01:20:50 PM
I ... ran across THE SWIMMER ... as I was ...l surfing.

This has to be Panni's sub-conscious thesaurus-izing away!

I LOVE it!

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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 01:22:09 PM
Of course there is the great Australian Dance Sport movie "Strictly Ballroom".

I'm glad to know someone ELSE here appreciates this film!

Umm...you do LIKE it, don't you, Tom????????
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 01:23:16 PM
I've gained weight to play the middle-aged BK.  I'm losing the weight to also play the middle-aged BK.

Ron, you'll be happy to know The Swimmer is on DVD in a gorgeous enhanced transfer.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 01:24:13 PM
Not that I know of. And I would be the one to know.

Okey-doke!  Ummm....may I ask the meaning, then, of that comment that appears underneath your avatar?

"Will fence for Cherry Coke (underpants)"

I'm sure you've made it clear before...but I must have been "out of range" that day.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 01:25:30 PM
I've gained weight to play the middle-aged BK.  I'm losing the weight to also play the middle-aged BK.

Ron, you'll be happy to know The Swimmer is on DVD in a gorgeous enhanced transfer.

Actually, I'm thrilled to know this.   Was there fanfare?  Did I miss the drums and horns and bells and flutes?

Or did it slide into the marketplace without a lot of hoo-haw?
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Post by: Jennifer on January 18, 2005, 01:34:18 PM
I really enjoyed last night's MEDIUM.

Although I will say this (DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE SHOW AND PLAN TO):




The photo thing was extremely predictable.  I thought it was quite obvious that the wedding photos were taken by the same photographer.  The style was very distinct.

I felt like the writers thought they were surprising us.

But very good episode.
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 01:37:40 PM
No hoo-haw - just another catalog title.

I got several interesting packages today.  Perhaps I'll open them right this very minute.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 01:51:08 PM
MATTH, I don't think actors should have to jeopardize their health or physical well-being for any role.

I don't think Olivier's remark is catty at all, I think it merely punctures the pretentiousness of Hoffman's actions.  If you sleep-deprive yourself to play sleep-deprivation, you cannot come to your work with the concentration and focus it requires.  You also may be sleep-deprived in a totally different way than the character you're playing.

I had a director who once tired to direct "the method", it was absurd.  I had a drunk scene.  When he found out I had never been drunk in my life (I was a teetotaler in my college days), he insisted I get drunk.  We had a party.  I did.  It was totally useless research.  I was a rather funny, light-hearted drunk.  The character I was playing was maudlin and wistful...I still had to depend on my powers of unpersonal research and my imagination to do what was required of the character.

I firmly embrace Stella Adler's eulogy of Lee Strasberg:  "He had more influence on acting than anyone in the last hundred years.  And it will take another hundred years to undo the damage he's done."  Or words to that effect.

Bottomline, regardless of De Niro physical transformation...I not a fan of the film.
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 01:58:33 PM
Stella Adler was correct.....is it not true that The Method was being taught from a translated Volume One and then when Volume Two was translated, it was found to contradict many things in the first volume?  The audience in AT THE ACTORS STUDIO drives me crazy (sometimes more so than the host) with its questions and assumptions.  I don't think acting can be taught.  And as I director, I have worked with college students who have been "crippled" by technique they are being taught.
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 01:59:43 PM
Bazooms is correct DR RON PULLIAM.....Miss Allison certainly had certain qualifications that helped her get into the movies....and being taught acting Lee Strasberg wasn't one of them.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 02:08:45 PM
Correction:  I was a teetotaller except for my one drink I'd had at the Playboy Club, which at the time told me I didn't much like hard liquor (and this was Vodka, which is tasteless).  I still don't much drink hard liquor (no scotch or bourbon at all) and  pretty much stick with wines.

But the other point about the futility of my director's whimsey was that being drunk, I was in no state to pragmatically gauge and remember any sensations to use in my drunk impersonation on stage...had my drunk even been remotely the same as the one I was playing.  

I also knew what malarkay "the method" was through this experience...for everytime I was truly feeling it, my director thought I was faking it.  Everytime I knew I was faking it, he thought it was real.  I got very good reviews in the part, by the way,McCann in Pinter's THE BIRTHDAY PARTY.

I do not believe in the cult of just one approach to acting.  I think you pick and choose from the array of methods out there and use the stuff from each discipline that works for you.  

I also know there are those moments on the stage when you're really in the groove and you can do no wrong, everything is genuine and real and, even as much in the moment as you are, there is Another Self floating behind and above you watching you, going:  "I am hot tonight."  Those moments, alas, happen all too frequently.

I also know that there are times you go onstage thinking of Chinese food and no matter how hard you try , you can't give into the heat and the emotion of the play. And at those times, you had better "try acting, dear boy" and fall back on discipline, focus, and technique, because there is an audience who've paid their money and you owe and you'd better convince them, whether you "feel" it or not.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 18, 2005, 02:16:59 PM
I'm glad to know someone ELSE here appreciates this film!

Umm...you do LIKE it, don't you, Tom????????

STRICTLY BALLROOM is wonderful!  DRRonPulliam, try some Zicam on your cold.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 02:19:30 PM
JRand54, I too have seen too many young actors crippled by "The Method" or some perversion of The Method.  While I think much of acting discipline and technique can, indeed, be taught...I do not believe you can teach talent.  And if you don't have the talent, the technique as likely as not won't help.

At its heart, acting is very simple. It's just pretend. Or as one wag once put it:  "Acting is Honesty.  Once you learn to fake that, you can got it made."
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 02:27:52 PM
MBARNUM I just emailed you the whole article fromHollywood Screen Stars of 1955.
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 02:28:40 PM
I, too, think the Method a load of bunk.  But actors need this sort of "thing" to hang onto.  As for me, I learn my lines real well, show up on time, and give a good performance.  Directors were always happy with me because I showed up prepared and with an idea of what I wanted to do.  They rarely had to give me further direction, but if they did, I took it and did it to the best of my ability.  

It IS all about being truthful - whether it's a realistic drama or comedy, or whether it's a Feydeau farce, or whether it's a satire - it must be truthful.  That's all I ever said to any of my singers - I just want to believe in what you're singing - the simple or complex truth of the lyric (simple usually being best).  
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 02:30:41 PM
LOL....I learned my acting technique from a couple of things written by Mr Jack Lemmon and Mr Hume Cronyn....both of which were so simple as to be common sense.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 02:35:09 PM
Common sense is the key to acting.  

But I think some actors need to justify their profession by trying to make it more difficult that it seems or to raise it to the level of the mystical.  I think there is a mystic quality to great acting, but I don't think it is anything that can be taught, articulated, or learned.  It lies in the genes of talent.
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 02:36:25 PM
The Genes of Talent - the title of my next book.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 02:53:39 PM
And here's to some talented Genes....Tierney, Tunney and Kelly!
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on January 18, 2005, 03:12:53 PM
DR Ron, I suggest you try AlkaSeltzer cold medicine,  I also suggest you try the orange flavored one as the original will make you gag


Orange Alka Seltzer sounds yummy.  Or at least it reminds me of Orange Fizzies, which were yummy in my youth.
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 03:13:57 PM
Is it siesta time?
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 03:25:10 PM
NEWS FLASH for all contestants in the Pan Pacific Competition:  There are NO new Federation Steps!!
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 03:25:41 PM
What magazine - what article DRMB?

I just sent you scans from the full Allison Hayes Hollywood Stars Magazine.
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 03:26:05 PM
I gained weight to play the middleaged JR.
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Post by: Michael on January 18, 2005, 03:34:27 PM
How about

(http://www.brucekimmel.com/images/racquet.jpg)

with

(http://www.brucekimmel.com/images/kimmelbruceracquet.JPG)
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Post by: Michael on January 18, 2005, 03:36:28 PM
I am so glad that people have mentioned Breaking Away. I really didn't think anyone would mention it.

Slap Shot is one of the best hockey films and a look at era when there was "goon hockey" which doesn't exist anymore. Actually the NHL doesn't exist right now.
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Post by: Michael on January 18, 2005, 03:37:17 PM
Are gladiators considered a sport?

Then how about Spartacus or Gladiator?
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Post by: Michael on January 18, 2005, 03:38:25 PM
Or a fictious sport?
(http://www.blaskan.nu/Bilder/rollerball.jpg)
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Post by: Michael on January 18, 2005, 03:45:10 PM
Here is a sport movie who's sport I hope I never participate in.

(http://usuarios.lycos.es/moviestars/original/The_most_dangerous_game.jpg)
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 03:45:51 PM
Frances Farmer wrote (or didn't) in her autobiography:

To many of my generation, as in succeeding ones, the theories of Konstantin Stanislavski, known as the Method, stood for total, meaningful theatre.  The real core of the Method was reality and absolute involvement.   It ripped aside the frills and brought to  the footlights the torn sweat shirt and the worn strumpet.  It had to be real, and according to the standards, you had to feel and experience it before you could act it.

We were young, and we took the Method to heart, and if our characters were sleeping together, we slept together.  If homosexuality was involved in a characterization, we were likewise involved, for how could you act what you had not experienced?

The Method became a moving force in the theater, but we were the first in its throes on a university level. [University of Washington in Seattle in the early 1930's under the tutelage of Sophie Rosenstein]  We were the newborn.  We were not afraid.  We acted and reacted. We had nothing to live up to , for we were the embryos.  Within a walled city, we were alive, bringing everything else to life.  But we went too far.  We were too enraptured.  Too concerned.  And we lost control.  It was a raw and dangerously uninhibited world, and to some it became a deadly game of self-destruction.
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Post by: Michael on January 18, 2005, 03:50:58 PM
The Paul Haber photo of the week
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 18, 2005, 04:02:17 PM
The Paul Haber photo of the week

The next sound you'll hear is DRMBarnum having a stroke (I hope that's a stroke I'm listening to)!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 04:10:35 PM
N
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Nestles makes the very best....

CHOCK-LIT!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 04:11:20 PM
The next sound you'll hear is DRMBarnum having a stroke (I hope that's a stroke I'm listening to)!

..having a stroke...???

Is that a euphemism??
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 04:12:47 PM
Did anyone mention "Kansas City Bomber" as a sports movie?????

While I was visiting my mom (and she gets the Fox Movie Channel), I saw "It Happenedin Athens"...and it was about the Olympics.  It starred Jayne Mansfield and Trax Colton.

I couldn't help but think of MBarnum when I saw that name pop up on the screen....sounds like someone right up his alley!
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 04:17:12 PM
Both of those "fillums" have been mentioned, DR RON.
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 04:17:54 PM
I also liked DownHill Racer with Robert Redford and Gene Hackman.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 18, 2005, 04:21:12 PM
..having a stroke...???

Is that a euphemism??

Whatever do you mean?
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 18, 2005, 04:21:47 PM
Did anyone mention "Kansas City Bomber" as a sports movie?????


I did!
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 04:32:29 PM
Whew!  Governor Mitch Daniels of Indiana - in outlining his plan to get  us out of this fiscal crisis - just asked that all citizens making over $100,000 be subject to a one-time 1% special income tax this year.  Oh my!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on January 18, 2005, 04:41:45 PM
Whatever do you mean?

I'll bet TCB knows what I mean.

:D
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Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 04:54:22 PM
Well, a friend made my day.  Said I was the youngest looking fifty-five year old he knew.
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 04:57:29 PM
Shortly I will be on my way to do a few things that need doing, then meeting up with the Birthday Boy for his Birthday Dinner.  

The good news is that the Pool People will be here Friday afternoon to put a new pump and motor in.  Therefore, if the weather holds and is gloriously glorious, I shall be in the Jacuzzi Friday evening and the pool on the weekend.  
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Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 04:58:29 PM
Don't forget to keep the home fries burning until my returning.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on January 18, 2005, 05:05:47 PM
..having a stroke...???

Is that a euphemism??

Not exactly a subtle one.
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 05:06:17 PM
TAR is on tonight!!!
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 05:20:19 PM
Let's name some obscure BAD movies that other DR's might not have seen, so that we can increase our libraries.

I will start with an easy one JUBILEE TRAIL with Miss Vera Ralston!
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 05:22:58 PM
Well I just won programs from THIS IS CINERAMA and CINERAMA SEVEN WONDERS OF THE WORLD....whew!
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 18, 2005, 05:24:00 PM
I'll bet TCB knows what I mean.

:D

Well, if DRTCB doesn't, DRDTM certainly does.  I meant a stroke, like a heart attack?  My grandmother had a stroke.  It killed her.  Well, actually I think my uncle killed her, but she had a stroke.  It struck us bloody murder.  Oh, God, now I sound like Alice Toklas.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on January 18, 2005, 05:29:24 PM
How about Roger Corman's Fantastic Four movie?  It was so bad that Marvel bought back the rights and it was never officially released.  But video copies have managed to be widely circulated.  You could probably pick up a copy at your local comic book store.
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 05:29:42 PM
DR ELMORE thanks for the CD!  
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 05:30:29 PM
DtM didn't even know that movie existed.  Is it as bad as Corman's ATLAS?
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 18, 2005, 05:34:51 PM
DR ELMORE thanks for the CD!  

DRJRand54, you are most certainly welcome.  I hope you are enjoying it.  Ann Southern sings better than I remembered she did.  I saw Carlton Carpenter play Cornelius to Mary Martin's Dolly in the first national tour of HELLO, DOLLY! and he was quite wonderful.  I certainly couldn't tell you the rest of the cast.

Has anyone else got this new Theatermania Guide to musical theater recordings?  Some of their gaps surprise me, like missing British recordings of some shows such as the London cast of THE SOUND OF MUSIC from 1962 or so and the London CD of HALF A SIXPENCE.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on January 18, 2005, 05:42:04 PM
DtM didn't even know that movie existed.  Is it as bad as Corman's ATLAS?

I'm not sure I ever had the pleasure of seeing Atlas.  I just read it's entry on IMDB.  Sounds intriguing, particularly the epic battle scenes.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 18, 2005, 05:43:40 PM
Well, that last sentence was convoluted.  The Theatermania guide takes a show and goes through all its various and sundry recordings rating them.  OKLAHOMA!, for example, has the OBC, the OLC, the Nelson Eddy studio cast, the soundtrack, etc.  THE SOUND OF MUSIC makes no mention of the London original cast, although it does review the later Petula Clark recording.  HALF A SIXPENCE only reviews the OBC, neither the OLC nor the film soundtrack.

I'll stop now.
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Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 05:46:53 PM
Maybe it's Theatermania Lite!

Don't spend time searching for it, DtM, but if it falls into your lap, give it a look!  
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on January 18, 2005, 05:53:32 PM
Maybe it's Theatermania Lite!

Don't spend time searching for it, DtM, but if it falls into your lap, give it a look!  

Hmmm...  That last sentence has all kinds of implications when taken out of context.

Almost time for TAR.  
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 06:39:32 PM
bk is this the gown?

http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/frenchatheart/pkchifr01.JPG?allow_mailing_list=1&owner_id=798532&allow_track_link=1&track=022c3a466a-c2f44&pt=bidpay&sp=1
Somehow, I was imagining a scalloped hem.   :-\
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 06:42:19 PM
Okay, enough of this idle chit-chat and chiffon frivolity. I must take a brisk,  mind-clearing walk and then write my little buns off.
You're using them for tax purposes?




 ;)
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 06:52:52 PM
Can someone (BK, didn't you mention this a while back?) tell me if the first season Night Gallery DVDs include the original two hour movie with Joan Crawford and Fritz Weaver?  It says "original pilot" but I'm not sure that's what it means.  TIA.  :)
Yes, the pilot is included.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Jane on January 18, 2005, 06:56:27 PM
DR Jane, I don't think I"ve ever tried an egg bagel.  What exactly is it?  And why do you prefer it to regular bagels?  Bagels are pretty popular here (and you can get them everywhere).  So I'd like to know what to look for.

I remember when Keith and I first started dating he told me to try the egg bagel instead of a plain one.  I don't believe I have eaten a plain one since.  I do loves eggs and egg bread.  A good egg bagel just has more flavor to me.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 06:56:45 PM
Fans of The Amazing Race....do not miss tonight's episode!
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 07:00:22 PM
As long-time readers of these here notes know, I am obsessed with The Swimmer, which I've been touting for over twenty years.  It's one of the strangest movies ever made, but one that, despite its problems, is what movie-making is all about....
In that case, you'll be absolutely thrilled thrilled thrilled to learn that it's being remade, scheduled for this year, starring Alec Baldwin.

 :P
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Jane on January 18, 2005, 07:01:53 PM
DR Jane, I can get you as many delicous egg bagels as you may wish, there is a lovely bagel bakery one block from my home.

When my best friend was in the in the Airforce and stationed in Nebraska she yearned for a good Jewisg Rye, so I would buy them, freeze them , wrapped them in Foil and then plastic backs and send them to her by express mail when they arrived they had defrosted during the trip and were as fresh as when I bought them from the bakery .

I would be happy to do the same for you.  They also sometimes have egg and bacon bagels, and I can also get rye, pumpernickel, etc...tell me your pleasure and I will see if I can accomadate you!!

Bacon bagels are not Kosher!!  ;D ;D  I'm also a vegetarian.  

Rye bagels too! :D

Currently I have rye bread in the freezer I had shipped from Zingerman's in Ann Arbor, Michigan.  Last night I had a piece with cream cheese and plum jam. :D
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Jane on January 18, 2005, 07:12:54 PM


DR Jane:  By "sleep elevated", I'm not quite sure what you mean....I live on the top floor of a 4-story condo...is that high enough?  : )


 ;D ;D-sleeping propped up on pillows which keeps all that cold crap from settling where you don't want it.

I didnít think anyone was going to mention IT HAPPENS EVERY SPRING with Ray Milland.-glad you did..
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 07:21:23 PM
And the TV film about the first Olympics was titled...

...wait for it...

The First Olympics: Athens 1896 (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0086713/maindetails)

I remember the film.  Somehow, what I remember most is a scene where the American Olympic team is making it's debut public appearance, and one of them has found a book where, in the original games of Ancient Greece, the atheletes competed in the nude.  Hilarity ensues.

 :o
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Jane on January 18, 2005, 07:22:05 PM
Hisaka you were missed.

It appears all of my favorite sports movies have been mentioned except for WIMBLEDON.  I'm not sure it is a favorite but we enjoyed it very much.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Jrand69 on January 18, 2005, 07:38:10 PM
And didn't Guy Haines himself play tennis in STRANGERS ON A TRAIN?
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: S. Woody White on January 18, 2005, 07:47:12 PM
This hyperlinked  article (http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2004/12/on_the_inaugura.html) regarding tomorrow's Inaugural Dinner has been brought to my attention.

For the first time, someone has managed to out-"product placement" Hollywood.

And here's the menu! (http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2004/12/on_the_inaugura.html)

So, here I am, a fiscally conservative (but socially moderate) Republican, and I have to wonder...with all the money being spent on this Inauguration, they can't afford electricity?  Or is the candlelight dinner to hide the food?
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: MBarnum on January 18, 2005, 07:58:51 PM
While I was visiting my mom (and she gets the Fox Movie Channel), I saw "It Happenedin Athens"...and it was about the Olympics.  It starred Jayne Mansfield and Trax Colton.

I couldn't help but think of MBarnum when I saw that name pop up on the screen....sounds like someone right up his alley!

:You are right! And I love that movie!
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Sandra on January 18, 2005, 07:59:55 PM
Okey-doke!  Ummm....may I ask the meaning, then, of that comment that appears underneath your avatar?

"Will fence for Cherry Coke (underpants)"

I'm sure you've made it clear before...but I must have been "out of range" that day.

It briefly said, "Will work for Cherry Coke," but I'm not that desperate, so I changed it to something I would actually like to do.  :P

The "underpants" got added after an episode in my poetry class. I posted it at the end of last semester. Here it is:

(Flashback)

Today was my last final. WOO HOO!! It was nineteenth century British poetry. Woo hoo...

Before the test, we all gathered for the cram session that always seems to happen before every test. While we were cramming, I happened to notice that in my Tennyson book in the middle of "In Memorium," I had the word "underpants" written in the margin. It's in my handwriting, but I don't have the slightest idea why I wrote it.

So I showed it to the others and they all thought it was really funny, especially the pothead who sits in the corner, but he thinks everything is funny. Anyway, so while we were cramming, people would just say, "Underpants" at random times and we would all giggle.

So after the test started and we were all frantically trying to remember everything, I hid my face with my test and said, "Underpants" and everybody dissolved into giggles, except the one girl who had gotten there just as the test was starting and didn't know what we were all laughing at. She was very confused.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: MBarnum on January 18, 2005, 08:02:46 PM
DRJrand54, the magazine I won is PEOPLE TODAY 2/23/1955
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: MBarnum on January 18, 2005, 08:04:57 PM
Obscure bad film on DVD: WILD WOMEN OF WONGO($5.99!)
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Matt H. on January 18, 2005, 08:16:42 PM
I'm certainly not going to defend the Method, but the point is that what worked for Dustin Hoffman as an actor should be the issue. Obviously, Lord Olivier had his own techniques, but it WAS catty and inappropriate to suggest to another actor the process he should use to arrive at his performance. We're all built differently, and all of you who have acted know this.

Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Matt H. on January 18, 2005, 08:56:21 PM
AMERICAN IDOL tonight produced no amazing performacnes. There were a few good singers (we weren't made privy to the voices of every contestant passed through to the Hollywood round) and one real hottie Italian guy from Hackensack, NJ, whose father was the mayor there. Maybe tomorrow in New Orleans will feature some more startling talent than we saw and heard tonight.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Matt H. on January 18, 2005, 08:58:51 PM
Robert De Niro's weight gain was fully supervised by a doctor both during the gain and in the process aftreward as he lost it.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 09:12:59 PM
I'm back from the birthday dinner, which was splendiferous.  I was, however, a bad, bad boy.  I had a Caesar Salad, meat loaf and mashed potatoes and some bread.  As if that wasn't bad enough, we all decided to go to House of Pies for pies.  I am now so gross it's not even funny.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 09:25:18 PM
The fact that De Niro's  extreme weight gain/ loss had to be supervised by a doctor shows the potential risk to health and physical well-being.

I won't debate whether Olivier's remark was catty or not, but refer you to Bill Goldman's book ADVENTURES IN THE SCREEN TRADE and his story about Hoffman making Olivier improvise, not only improvise but walk around to do so when the man was obviously ill.  I think Hoffman's a fine actor...but I think some of this stuff is just star ego bullshit.  While you're at it, read the story about Hoffman and the flashlight in Goldman's book.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 09:29:46 PM
Yes, we are waddling around full o'pie and meatloaf and taters.  He didn't mention the onion rings.  Oink!  But when you laugh while you eat, there are no calories.  So our meal must have comprised negative calories.

As if springing for dinner wasn't enough, BK came bearing splendid gifts...DVDs of THE SWIMMER & REQUIEM FOR A HEAVYWEIGHT.
Thanks again, BK, for a swell birthday celebration.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 10:26:34 PM
Busy day. Writing in the morning. Long meeting in the afternoon. Then out to the taping of a "live" talk show in Hollywood. I was invited by someone who works on the show when he found out that Rachel was a fan. We got the star treatment. Ushered in ahead of the hundreds in line, hung out in the Green Room before and after the show, had great seats - and - biggest thing of all - were told we could go to the bathroom during the show - which the hoi polloi couldn't. One of the guests was Tony Shalhoub, with whom we had a great chat after the show (about lions mating, among other things - they do it 40 times in one day, or something like that). He's a very nice man. And he was particularly pleased when I mentioned how very much I liked BIG NIGHT. He considers it a highlight of his career.
Then, after walking by all the crazies in front of Grauman's, we drove home and stopped off for hot chocolate on the way.
A good day.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 10:29:58 PM
Pogue - I'm NEVER wrong, am I?
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 10:30:57 PM
Just finished a marvelous motion picture, about which more later.  I shall now write the notes, then return.  
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 10:52:15 PM
Nope!
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: JoseSPiano on January 18, 2005, 10:55:51 PM
Good Evening!

Sorrry to have been errant and truant for most of the day, but I kind of wanted to have a day off where I wasn't attached to my laptop all day whilst watching TV.  That's just way too easy to do, so...  Instead...

Baking:  A German Chocolate Cake - yet one more special order, this time from Ms. Anne Duquesnay.  Her dresser gave her a slice of the one I made last week, and she loved it.  In fact, I was sort of summoned to her dressing room the other night.  I had no idea why she wanted to see me since she normally doesn't seen anyone before the show (as part of her pre-show routine).  Well...  She asked if I was the one who made the cake, and I told her I was.  She then proceeded to tell me how delicious it was, and that it was just sweet enough and not too sweet like German Chocolate Cakes tend to be.  She even said it made her cry!  And that she was tearing up just thinking about it!  High praise indeed!  Very sweet of her too.  And it made my evening!  She asked if I would make her a German Chocolate Cake, so I made her a German Chocolate Cake today.  -And she'll be paying me for it too!

*The funny thing is is that I tried a new recipe last week for the cake from this month's Cook's Illustrated.  I just trusted that it would come out well.  I've never tried it myself, so...  Let's hope it came out well again today.

-Green Tea Poundcake, and an Amazon Cake - basically a chocolate cake.  I came across the recipe in the New York Times a few years ago.  Very easy to mix up, and no eggs either.  Incredibly moist.  And it get it's name from the fact that it's a very dark cake, almost black as a result of using cocoa in the batter.  I made two "layers", and I'll probably stop by Safeway and pick up a can of Redi-Whip to go with it tomorrow.

And speaking of tomorrow...

I have a Noon matinee tomorrow/today, and, let's see... It's almost 2:00AM now, so...

I skimmed the posts, and I'll be sure to give them a closer read once I'm back up in Fairfax tomorrow.  I just wanted to make sure to check in before heading to bed.  *I'm hoping to be on the road by 8:30 - with the road closings and some possible snow tomorrow...  -Just goes to show my obsession addiction devotion to the internet HHW.

;)

Oh, I also drove around for a bit taking care of errands, and I ended up over at Steve's place where we watched "American Idol".  It was a nice "break" for me from all the baking.  And, as always, it was nice spending time with Steve.  *He found the limited edition Chex Mix at Target the other day - Cocoa!  And it even has mini-marshmallows in it!

-Oh, and I got stopped by a cop for running a yellow (I said), red (he said) light on the way over to Steve's.  Thankfully, he did not write me a ticket.  "You're my first one of the evening, and I always let my first one go."  "Thank you, officer."  -Again, I guess it pays to have a near spotless driving record.  In fact, I started thinking back to my last moving violation, and I think it's been a eight or nine years.  And that was for.. well, running a stop light.  So...

OK... 1:56AM...  I have to be out of bed in 5 hours and 4 minutes.  DO NOT HIT THE SNOOZE BUTTON!!!  *Well, since I have to get out of bed to hit the snooze button...

... And I get to go to bed in an apartment smelling of chocolate and vanilla!

:)

OH!!

DR ozderek - Were you referring to "The Front Runner"?  -Patricia Nell Warren's book?

OK...

That's all for tonight.  I must get to bed and get some sleep.

Goodnight.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 10:57:25 PM
Good night, John boy.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Panni on January 18, 2005, 10:57:45 PM
And one for Mahler.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 11:00:21 PM
I am so full of food right now, aren't I Pogue?  You MADE me do it.  Luckily, I only ate two of the onion rings.  But if you'd seen the sheer length of the piece of meat loaf Pogue and I had your eyes would have bugged out.  Certainly our eyes bugged out.  The ever-lovin' Julieanne had a salad with delicious flank steak.  And they really do have one of the best Caesars in town.  And I am never wrong about such things, am I?
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 11:09:03 PM
Two onion rings, my ass!  But, man, the pie was totally unnecessary!  I was too full to even enjoy it.  And House of Pies' coconut cream pie should be savoured and luxuriated in.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 11:10:44 PM
I was so full I couldn't even finish the filling of the pie.  I did eat all the whipped cream, though.  All right, damn your eyes, three onion rings.  You're always right, aren't you?
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: George on January 18, 2005, 11:15:31 PM
As for another movie for the Topic of the Day, has anyone mentioned "The Golden Boy" with William Holden?  Is the movie any good?  I've never seen it, but I have the original Broadway cast recording to the musical version. ::)
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 11:18:53 PM
I've seen Golden Boy once - don't remember it enough to talk about it.  I do love the Strouse/Adams score to the musical.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 11:44:20 PM
I loved Golden Boy the first time I saw.  Haven't seen it for years.  But I've seen bits and pieces here and there and it still seems affecting.

And, yeah, Kimmel, I'm right often enough.  Certainly about SOME things.  Don't forget who told you what about you know what, what?
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: Charles Pogue on January 18, 2005, 11:45:35 PM
And , of course, you were right about whatachamacallit, you know you were. Yes, you were.
Title: Re:THE CHIFFON GOWN WITH THE PLUNGING NECKLINE
Post by: bk on January 18, 2005, 11:48:37 PM
I wonder if tomorrow's notes will cause a late-night frenzy?