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Title: THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 03, 2005, 11:58:13 PM
Well, you've read the notes, you've agonized over the notes, you've ecstasized over the notes, and now it is time for you to post until the cows come home to experience the agony and the ecstasy, not necessarily in that order.
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Post by: bk on February 03, 2005, 11:59:54 PM
And the word of the day: POPPYCOCK.

A fine and noble word?  Poppycock.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 12:10:48 AM
And I'm sure the new notes are lovely but I can't access them yet.  I think it must have something to do with the fact that my  computer clock is two minutes faster than yours, BK.

I just heard a song on my wonderful internet radio station wmkv that would be great for Guy Haines, (O woe is me) Mr. Jinx Stay Away From Me.  It was performed by Larry Clinton and his orchestra, sung by the redoubtable Bea Wain, who also sings The Lovely Wife's and my song, MY REVERIE (yes, based on the DeBussy ditty).  Larry Clinton also does a version of SHADRACH that is even better the Brook Benton's...In fact, I was once going to convert my father to pop music by playing him Brook Benton's SHADRACH  (I thought it had some aspects of Louis Jordan who my dad liked...so do I). He said it was pretty good, then pulled out Clinton's version and subsequently converted me to Big Bands.  I constantly raided his 78s from then on.

Anyway, Mr. Jinx is a zippy little number that might appeal to Mr. Haines and is certainly obscure.

BK, I think that pie is clogging my arteries.

Now I'm going to read the notes...or at least try to...
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 12:18:47 AM
Well, I have now read the notes and I must say the notes were not poppycock, no, the notes were not.  I must now go to bed and hope my arteries unclog themselves of pie...or is it the onion rings?

CD: I shall endeavour to watch the wonderful TUNES OF GLORY sometime this weekend and all its wonderful extras.
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 12:21:07 AM
POPPYCOCK!

I'm here, waiting for the WUSSBURGERS to realize the error of their various and sundried ways.
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 12:21:41 AM
Has Ann caught up yet?  Has she given in to another brownie?
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 12:22:12 AM
"Given in to another brownie".  

Well, that could be taken two ways, couldn't it?
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 12:22:21 AM
POPPYCOCK!
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 12:42:16 AM
Well, I guess I shall toddle off to the bedroom environment.
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Post by: Ann on February 04, 2005, 12:46:00 AM
hehehe yes, it could, BK.  Thankfully this is a family site ;D

I did have another little bite of brownie...I promised myself I'd hit the gym tomorrow to make up for it.  
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Post by: Ann on February 04, 2005, 12:46:57 AM
you're going to leave me all alone in the world...so sad
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 12:49:53 AM
No, I'm still here - oh, a Stephen Sondheim reference.
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Post by: Ann on February 04, 2005, 12:54:54 AM
you're a bit young for that song, bk.  As Stritch would say "I'm still here? Where have you been?"
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 01:05:28 AM
Ann, we are the only two non-WUSSBURGERS.  It is dangerous for me to be up so late with time on my hands.  I've been bidding on all manner of eBay items.  
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Post by: Ann on February 04, 2005, 01:07:49 AM
That is dangerous

It's dangerous for me to be up so late with a plate of brownies nearby
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 01:07:49 AM
Well, I suppose I shall now toddle off, but not before leaving you with one simple thought: POPPYCOCK.
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Post by: Ann on February 04, 2005, 01:08:31 AM
Poppycock...that can be a dangerous word too :)
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 01:08:33 AM
But it's so pleasant sitting at the computer with the iPod on - I forget how late it is.
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Post by: Jed on February 04, 2005, 01:49:57 AM
"Given in to another brownie".  

Well, that could be taken two ways, couldn't it?

My favorite recipe...

BOY SCOUT SURPRISE
1) Get 12 Brownies really hot...
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Post by: Tomovoz on February 04, 2005, 02:10:55 AM
DVD: The wonderful Swedish version of "Chess". At last the show really works. I know DRs George and OzDerek enjoy this too.
DVD: "Home on the Range".  Quite delightful.

CD: Santo & Johnny.
Vinyl: The Best Of the Irish Rovers;
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Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 04:08:38 AM
I cannot believe that DRMBarnum has a computer and not a phonograph!  I would think it were the opposite.   My late friend Bill Tynes, who first hired me in New York, only listened to his wind-up Victrola; I don't believe he considered anything written after 1950 to be music.   Whenever anyone visited Bill, there was always an RCA Victor Light Opera medley playing in the background.  Ethan Mordden used to say that Bill only liked THE KING AND I because it starred Gertrude Lawrence and Bill thought it was a 30s musical.

THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY:  poor Mr Irvng Stone, still insisting Michelangelo was not a friend of Dorothy's; those sonnets to Tomasso and the others were just "literary conceits."  I think Mr Heston also jumped on that bandwagon, probably with loaded rifles in each hand.  

DRMichael Shayne, Ben Bagley was one of the funniest men I ever met, and he was one of the cheapest.  By the early 1980s, when I worked with him, he was recording on the lowest possible budget and he had absolutely no artistic standards because the time and money spent were far more important than the artistry; his attitude toward wrong notes was "we'll take them out in the mix" and a session was like a casting call:  "lovely, thank you, next!"  The irony was that he claimed poverty and lived rather well in a lovely apartment in Queens, which I was lucky to see when Ben invited me one night to dinner.  The walls were covered in the original Harvey Schmidt artwork for the "Revisited" album covers.

Joanne Woodward was a total delight. She liked singing, and she seemed quite thrilled to be doing a recording!   She was fighting a cold so she was drinking lots of tea and taking lots of vitamin C, which we both agreed was the best remedy.  She did a duet with her singing teacher, Andy Anselmo.  It was for the same (?) Jerome Kern Revisited album that I did a chart for Rod McKuen, who was an old friend of Ben's.  He was also a charming, friendly guy, and I liked him and Miss Woodward both very much.

The song that Miss Woodward sang was "The Bull Frog Patrol," and Ben liked the "Scott Joplin" arrangement so much that he stuck a bit of it before the song itself.  Unfortunately, the tempo of the song had picked up in the session, so when the piece of music Ben decided to use as an intro meets the actual song's beginning, there's a bit of a traffic jam.

TOD:  CD:  Village Light Opera Group DEAREST ENEMY
         VCR:  Nothing
         DVD:  A film BK recommended, ON GUARD




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Post by: Ben on February 04, 2005, 05:04:22 AM
Last night Jose said:

"The Drama Bookshop - if the reading does happen there - is walking distance from The Muse - just two blocks down.  Maybe three.  But it's definitely walking distance"

Not to be pedantic, but it's actually 6 blocks and if you count the half block (since Danise is on 46th Street, closer to 6th Avenue than 7th Avenue) walk to the main avenue and then the half block walk across 40th Street (DBS is in the middle of the block on 40th Street between 7th and 8th Avenues), it's seven blocks. That's still absolutely walking distance as any New Yorker will tell you, although there are those types who will jump in a cab to travel 7 blocks. I won't go into the issue that at 42nd Street Broadway and 7th Avenue split and veer off and what was 7th Avenue is now Broadway and what was Broadway is now 7th Avenue, which if you're walking down 7th Avenue adds another block to your walk because of the just noted change in street names/numbers. That information is too confusing for the morning and it's easier to show a person in person as they are walking across the street and down the town (I'm feeling Gertrude Steinish again). Anyway, suffice it to say, it's very easy to get to Drama Book Shop if the reading happens. The actual address of the book emporium is 250 West 40th St, New York, 10018 - (212) 944-0595. And that, Dear Readers, ends your lesson on New York City geography  ;D

I must move on to the Karfunkel Family Foundation. I think Karfunkel is a funnier word than Poppycock.

Karfunkel. But I shouldn't do that because I don't want to make fun of some family name. What if they should do a "google" and come across this here site only to see that I said their name sounds funny! They might hunt me down and throw me off the top of the Empire State Building.

DR Larry, I think that Kern album you mention (the Kern Revisited Volume 4) is the one on which my friend David Gebel appears. I think you arranged his number as well, Nice to Be Near. I could be wrong, though.

I'm listening to Composer of the Week on BBC Radio 3 right now and I don't know what I will listen to as the day goes along.

Next week will be a busy week for me. Starting on Tuesday, February 8th I will be going to the Theatre 5 times within the week. I'm seeing Picon Pie on Tuesday. It's a musical about the life of Molly Picon. I'm seeing a new off-Broadway play called McReele on Wednesday. It's part of my Roundabout subscription series. I'm seeing Dame Edna on Thursday. It's a birthday present from my two theatre buddies. I'm seeing The Musical of Musicals - The Musical on Saturday afternoon. It's just re-opened Off-Broadway at the new Dodger Stages facility. On Saturday evening I'm seeing the new Christopher Shinn play about a woman obsessed by the death of Kurt Cobain. Then on February 17th I'm seeing Shockheaded Peter, the British musical based on a 19th Century children's story and finally on February 22nd, I'm seeing the revival of La Cage aux Folles. Wow, I'm exhausted just typing it all out.

Now, on to the Karfunkel Family.
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Post by: Ben on February 04, 2005, 05:04:54 AM
It's just me, all alone in the world. I know how the denizens feel. Ah, me.
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Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 05:17:33 AM
It's just me, all alone in the world. I know how the denizens feel. Ah, me.

DRBen, I might have done the Kern chart for your friend, but I can't remember.  His name souonds familiar but I cannot put a face to it.  The curse of an aging mind!

Off to B & N so you're all alone for a bit.  Bear up, be brave!
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Post by: Ben on February 04, 2005, 05:23:56 AM
I'm shirking my working. I was just finishing up one of the December days I hadn't read during my errant volunteer phase and I came across this little tidbit.

"Christopher Plummer CYRANO is coming out on CD in March, 2005

I am so happy to hear that. I saw the original production when it debuted at the Guthrie during it's difficult pre-Broadway tryout. From the time it left the Guthrie to th time got to New York it became a different prodution. People were let go left and right and willy nilly. I still remember loving the Guthrie production but I also have a great fondness for the Broadway cast album. This will be one less LP I need to transfer to CD!
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Post by: td on February 04, 2005, 05:45:14 AM
I found a relief from grief this week once I put the Jerry Lewis films into the dvd player.  I have now watched:
CIDERFELLA (alright, but, not a laugh fest)
THE BELLBOY (a laugh fest and delightful)
THE NUTTY PROFESSOR (saw this in the drive-in as a child, it's actually very, very funny).
Up next is THE DISORDERLY ORDERLY.
Paramount (and Lewis) should be commended for the excellent transfers of these films.
From Netfilx:
BURNT MONEY - an Argentine (NOT Argento) flick about a couple of gay crooks.  Heavy duty.  Violent and thought-provoking.
THE KING OF KINGS - silent film from Cecil B. DeMille, leagues ahead of Mel Gibson's study in sadomasochism.
In the cd player:
Nancy LaMott Live at Tavern on the Green.
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Post by: Michael on February 04, 2005, 05:47:07 AM
At home: The almost complete Ben Bagley collection (minus the two cds that were pulled by the time I started collecting them)

Car: Nancy LaMott Live at The Tavern On the Green (recorded 6 weeks before she passed away)
Listen To My Heart (the Off-Broadway show of David Friedman's songs)
Susan Egan: So Far
Susan Egan: Coffee House
Tami Tappan Damiano: Hot Notes
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Post by: Ginny on February 04, 2005, 06:05:59 AM
Friday media report:

CD (car) - Long audiobook, David McCullough's bio of John Adams.  Makes me want to listen to OBC of 1776!

DVD - Broadway: The Golden Age - watched the feature earlier in the week and this weekend will watch all the added features.  One standout part for me was seeing Mimi Hines, both in the film and during the credits singing, "Who Are You Now?"  The second show I ever saw on Broadway was Funny Girl in 1967, by which time she had taken over the role of Fanny.
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Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2005, 06:57:14 AM
Media check:

DVD: The Home Town Story (1951), Ski Troop Attack (1960).

CD: Turkish Pop Volume 2

VHS: Nothing

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Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2005, 07:00:37 AM
This weekends Bollywood movie is from 1948. Shri Ram Bhakt Hanuman. It is another version of Shri Ram and his wife Sita's journey into the forest for 14 years where they meet a bunch of half monkey/half men people.

(http://216.247.121.93/dvdImages/b6491.jpg)
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Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2005, 07:02:40 AM
JRand, I do still have many LPs and a few 45s. Most I have had transferred to CD...still it would be nice to havea phonograph and I have come across some nifty that would look cool in my house...if only I had the room!
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Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2005, 07:05:25 AM
hey, i just accidently cut my pinkie finger ( a small piece). Does anyone know the best thing to do.  thanks.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2005, 07:50:59 AM
I saw THE AGONY AND THE ECSTACY at age 15, and it rather bored me so I have never watched it again. But bk's description makes me eager to give it another try. It may resonate more with me now than it did then.
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2005, 07:54:15 AM
Friday Media report:

CD - A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC (OCR)

DVD - LAW & ORDER: CRIMINAL INTENT Season 3 - disc 2
          STAR TREK - Season 3, disc 36
          CSI - Season 4 - disc 5

DVR - last night's WILL & GRACE
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2005, 07:55:42 AM
I have finally found the perfect time to dive into LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING, Extended Edition:

Super Bowl Sunday!

Since I don't give two figs for the game, this will be the perfect opportunity to settle in and be able to watch it all. Can't wait!
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Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2005, 07:57:52 AM
After our dreadful weather yesterday, it's proving to be a glorious day here today (highs in the 50s) and even a brighter, warmer day tomorrow with highs in the 60s. I will be able to go to my favorite Chinese buffet for the first time in weeks tomorrow!

This is shaping up to be one swell weekend!
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Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 07:59:02 AM
Charles Pogue I do enjoy my AARP, even ordering before I turned 50 (only since I saw a special through Publisher’s Clearing House).  It just wasn’t worth a special trip to pick it up.   ;D

This morning we had a magnificent sunrise-sorry no photos.  I kept thinking it will be gone before I get the camera.  I watched it for over half an hour.

Jennifer I hope by now you have taken care of your finger.  Is it okay?
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Post by: Ginny on February 04, 2005, 08:06:33 AM
DR MBarnum - Have you seen the Bollywood article in this month's National Geographic?
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 08:26:58 AM
MattH, we usually go to my business manager's house for the Super Bowl, but he is actually going to the game this year...so that won't be happening.  Like you, I could care less about the game...but there is always great food and lots of entertaining folk there, so I can spend three splendid hours and never watch a minute of the game.  One year, Jane Krakowski showed up as someone's date.
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Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2005, 08:28:06 AM
Jennifer I hope by now you have taken care of your finger.  Is it okay?

No, it's not, but thanks for asking.  I am typing with one hand.

I was online looking for remedies.  They suggested putting water on it and pressure.

I've never done anything like this before.  It's not bad enough to go to the hospital (i don't think).    but it is still bleeding & it still hurts.
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Post by: Rodzinski on February 04, 2005, 08:30:07 AM
Jennifer- I hope it was a minor finger thing and okay now. I have visions of you passed out at your keyboard after you typed your last message. :-[
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Post by: Ben on February 04, 2005, 08:31:34 AM
Sad to report that great actor and activist Ossie Davis has died.

Here's a short article/obit.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=7&u=/ap/20050204/ap_on_en_mo/obit_davis (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=7&u=/ap/20050204/ap_on_en_mo/obit_davis)
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Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2005, 08:31:38 AM
DR MBarnum - Have you seen the Bollywood article in this month's National Geographic?

Oh, wow, no I have not seen that. I will check it out next time I go to the barbershop as they always have the new issue.
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Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 08:32:57 AM
Jane, I'm trying to wrap my brain around some logistics:  How far is your mailbox from your house?
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Post by: George on February 04, 2005, 08:34:09 AM
In my CD player at work:  The Woman in White.  I'm waiting until I have listened to it all the way through (twice) before forming an opinion.  

In anything else:  nothing.  I have a 4-line part in a local show that tomorrow, has two performances only.  It's the annual Sweet Adelines/Puget Sounders Barbershop Chorus show called "Evening of Harmony."  We had a rehearsal last night and final dress today.  Otherwise, I only had three other rehearsals.  Tomorrow will be the only performances.  

As for the superbowl, I have no interest in it.  My housemate is inviting some friends of his (including his "ladyfriend") and they will watch the game.  Me?  I'll probably go to the movies...or go somewhere...or just watch TV in my bedroom.  We'll see. :)
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Post by: Rodzinski on February 04, 2005, 08:35:10 AM
My unprofessional advice: wet clean washcloth, hold it around the finger somewhat tightly with your other hand. Make sure the bleeding hand is elevated. If bleeding continues, get thee to the ER.

(If there is a piece of finger off, put it in a plastic bag, no ice, and get to ER now. They can maybe sew it on).
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Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2005, 08:35:55 AM
Jennifer- I hope it was a minor finger thing and okay now. I have visions of you passed out at your keyboard after you typed your last message. :-[

No, not passed out.  Just not sure what to do.  I stayed online trying to look up some tips.

Sorry if this grosses anyone out.  It's a very small chunk. but it still hurts.  And i feel very stupid for being so careless.
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Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2005, 08:38:31 AM
(If there is a piece of finger off, put it in a plastic bag, no ice, and get to ER now. They can maybe sew it on).

Ewwww :)

Thankfully it's not a piece that would be needed to be sewn on. If it was that big I would definitely have gone to the hospital.

Thanks for your tips.  Hand is elevated and wrapped tightly.
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Post by: Rodzinski on February 04, 2005, 08:40:32 AM
Piece, chunk, it was hard to know :)
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 08:52:38 AM
I'm up, I'm up.  I have been having difficulty falling asleep at night because my brain is alive with the sound of music and it's hard for me to shut it down.

Jennifer, if it's that deep a cut you need to have a doctor look at it immediately.

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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 08:53:36 AM
And may I just say - POPPYCOCK.

The severe absence of POPPYCOCK on this here discussion board is poppycock.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 09:02:01 AM
Another, more in-depth, obit of Ossie Davis:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/04/obit.davis.ap/index.html
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Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2005, 09:08:48 AM
Jennifer, if it's that deep a cut you need to have a doctor look at it immediately.

This might sound dumb, but how does one know if it's deep enough to see doctor?  I don't think it is & it has stopped bleeding.
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 09:19:53 AM
If a piece of your finger is hanging away from the rest of your finger, see a doctor.  If it's just a cut and it's stopped bleeding, bandage it up.
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 09:21:23 AM
Welcome six GUESTS.  We're talkin' about media selections and we're talkin' about POPPYCOCK.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2005, 09:25:48 AM
Yesterday, JRand wrote:

Quote
For some reason a "room full of Playmates" is just wrong....wrong on so many levels.

How would Yvette Vickers know where to sit?  

I totally agree.

It should be a "shower room full of Playmates" if the phrase is to make any sense at all.

 ;)
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 09:28:58 AM
We're still trying to puzzle out whether a Friday reading/signing is worthwhile.  So far I think only four people said they could be there.  The next issue is - IF we do it, what would the best time be?  We can have anytime between 1 and 7, and I'm thinking from 5 to 7 would be good - plenty of time for people to get to the theater afterwards, and late enough in the day for working people to be finished.  What say all of you?  I'm going to need to commit to this by Monday.
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 09:33:34 AM
Is it siesta time already?
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 09:33:47 AM
POPPYCOCK!
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Post by: George on February 04, 2005, 09:37:18 AM
And...
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Post by: George on February 04, 2005, 09:38:00 AM
...one for Mahler!!
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Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 09:39:38 AM
Holy moley on rye - page three!  POPPYCOCK.

Surely someone must be listening to something.
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Post by: George on February 04, 2005, 09:55:14 AM
Well, after The Woman in White, I still have Audra McDonald's concert of "The Seven Deadly Sins" on my MP3 watch.  I'll listen to that afterwards. :)
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Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2005, 10:05:04 AM
Well, right now I am listening to this album on-line.

(http://www.el-bakkar.com/images/Covers/MagicCarpet.jpg)
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2005, 10:13:03 AM
I'm shirking my working. I was just finishing up one of the December days I hadn't read during my errant volunteer phase and I came across this little tidbit.

"Christopher Plummer CYRANO is coming out on CD in March, 2005

I am so happy to hear that. I saw the original production when it debuted at the Guthrie during it's difficult pre-Broadway tryout. From the time it left the Guthrie to th time got to New York it became a different prodution. People were let go left and right and willy nilly. I still remember loving the Guthrie production but I also have a great fondness for the Broadway cast album. This will be one less LP I need to transfer to CD!
Great cast album, one that I believe a roommate of der B's swiped when he moved out (as I was moving in.)  

He also swiped my copy of Pirates of Penzance, with Ronstadt.  I'm rather glad we never heard of him again.

It's so much fun, replacing bad roommates.
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Post by: Ginny on February 04, 2005, 10:20:07 AM
Surely someone must be listening to something.

iPod - Renee (Fleming) and Bryn (Terfel) Under the Stars
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Post by: Ben on February 04, 2005, 10:22:04 AM
Regarding time for the reading, 5-7 is best for me. I work until 4pm. I know most people work 9-5 but I'm outta here at 4pm every day so I can mosey uptown to a reading. Anything earlier would be difficult.

I'm about to listen to Heartbeats, a BK produced CD from the Pasadena Playhouse State Theatre of California (or so it says on the back of the CD). I found it at Academy for $12. Never heard it before, though I know of the show. As I said earlier this week, my BK collection is growing at an alarming pace. Now some might say that's "POPPYCOCK"[/U][/B] but not I. I say it's "KARFUNKEL"[/U][/B]
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 10:24:09 AM
Have we had a posting yet about how much the cut pinkie bled?

If medical attention has not been given, DR Jennifer, are you (I hope) watching to make sure that red streaks don't start traveling up your arm from the site of the wound?

That's a sign of infection...so if it happens, do please seek "medical attention."
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2005, 10:24:43 AM
Poppycock comes from the Dutch, and literally means soft dung.

Merde.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 10:27:34 AM
What are other signs of infection?

Pus?

Gangrene?

Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Kerry on February 04, 2005, 10:30:02 AM
I'm pretty much listening to composite CD's in the car right now.  A little bit of thisa anda thata.  You know.
Everything from "She Loves Me" to "Star is Born"--  from Rosemary Clooney to "Avenue Q."  From "Gypsy" to "The Full Monty."

I'm still cracking up over Pogue's having Marjorie Main and Joi Lansing together for dinner.  That's almost as good as the episodes of "Beverly Hillbillies" when Nancy Kulp was supposed to be Joi Lansing's stand-in.

Our very own Michael Barnum has a wonderful interview with William Reynolds in this month's issue of "Classical Images."  I highly recommend it.
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Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2005, 10:33:10 AM
It took a while to catch up with yesterday's and today's notes.  We are a prolific bunch, wordwise.

Yesterday, der B decided that I must be getting cabin-crazy, and therefor that we should take a cab into town, our own car still being in the shop.  We ended up having dinner at the Purple Parrot, in their new digs.  Said new digs, closer to the beach, are nice, but while the PP has a larger dining room now, it has lost the upstairs "Birdcage," where they would hold kareoke and other entertainments.  Downstairs now has a series of garage doors which can be raised during the summer to let the sea breazes in.  Problem is, the plans are to hold the kareoke etc. in the front of the new restaurant, where there is bound to be noise pollution complaints.  Boo hiss.

We took another cab home.  About twelve minutes after settling in, the power went out.  This was a little after eight in the evening.  I decided to make an early night of it, while der B fiddled with a battery-powered CD player.  

The power is back now.  We also had some snow.  Hopefully we'll also have a car very soon!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2005, 10:38:07 AM
I am up!  I am sick, but I am at my computer.  Whew!

I ordered INTIMATE STRANGERS on DVD recommended on this here site by MR BK.  I also ordered BEACH GIRLS AND THE MONSTER that MBARNUM told me had been released!  At last!  

DVD:  I LOVE LUCY The Third Season - "You know that hat I saw yesterday?  Well put it on my account and send it over by your fastest, speediest delivery." ACTION: Hang up telephone. SOUND (Door buzzer). REACTION: As only Lucy can.

CD:  FOREVER PLAID

VCR:  THE CARDINAL

Poppycock!  Hmmmmmmmmm......

Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2005, 10:39:43 AM
DR RODZINSKI I have that Paul Peterson 45 as well....I remember when he did "She Can't Find Her Keys" on the Donna Reed Show, and at the time, for some reason, I thought it was great!

I forgot that you can transfer albums to CD - MBARNUM.....technology.  Someday, I will catch up with it....sort of.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Sandra on February 04, 2005, 10:48:48 AM
You want poppycock? Here's some poppycock for you. Rhetoric homework! I also have to post my response to the reading for my IAAAAWWOTD class, and I can't even remember what all that stands for.

By the way, does anyone happen to know if Aristotle would accept poetry, sculpture, music, and other arts as being rhetoric, given his argument in the "Rhetoric?" Just wondering.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2005, 10:51:35 AM
MEDIA CHECK!

I haven't been doing much, but der B has.

Last night, the CD he decided to play was a compilation of 70s hits.  It's pitch dark, I'm settling in for a nice sleep, and suddenly he starts playing...DISCO!!!

 :P

"Le Freak."  "Don't Leave Me This Way."  "I Will Survive."

His survival rating was going way down, I'll tell you.  I was about to strangle him when the familiar four notes came forth...

Da Da Da Dum!

"See, this isn't disco!" he proclaimed.

"Oh yes it is," I growled.

Sure enough, it was "A Fifth of Beethovan," that abomination whipping classical music into something that had a beat and you could dance to it.

He conceeded and found a disc of real classical music.  I went back to bed and didn't get up until very late this morning, feeling much better.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ben on February 04, 2005, 10:54:57 AM
Save me from TDF! I have just added another night of theatre to my schedule. On Monday February 7th I will be seeing Dirty Rotten Scoundrels w/John Lithgow and Norbert Leo Butz. Oh, my the benefits of TDF and a flexible schedule!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: S. Woody White on February 04, 2005, 10:59:10 AM
Meanwhile, der B has been loafing recouperating from his bruises of last week, staying in bed and watching some DVDs.  His judgement is as follows:

King Arthur: Jerry Bruckheimer has produced a boring film!  A first!

Dressed to Kill, the de Palma film: They sure edited the hell out of this film when the released it on television!  (But talk about lame dialogue!)

The Stepford Wives, the remake: The real problem is that the story is a horror story, and in trying to make it into a comedy Oz and Rudnick turned it into a film that was neither/nor.

Today, in the mail, the first season of Murder She Wrote has arrived.  By the time he's finished with those discs, I expect not only will his bruises to have healed, but he should be ready to join the local track club.  

Wishful thinking.   :-\   ::)
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2005, 11:02:50 AM
http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/FrameSet.aspx?s=EventImagesSearchState|1|0|30|0|0|1|0|0|0|52062663|0|0|0|0|0||0|0|0|0&p=7 (http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/FrameSet.aspx?s=EventImagesSearchState|1|0|30|0|0|1|0|0|0|52062663|0|0|0|0|0||0|0|0|0&p=7)


DR RON and anyone else interested.  The photos from New York's Fashion Week featuring the winners of Project Runway are at the link.

Don't look if you don't want to know.  I am horrified!  :P
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2005, 11:15:33 AM
MBARNUM - A Study in High Fidelity?  It sounds like a Sherlock Holmes story.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2005, 11:24:58 AM
I forgot that you can transfer albums to CD - MBARNUM.....technology.  Someday, I will catch up with it....sort of.

Well, I have the technology, I think, just not the know-how! I have been paying a guy $5 a per CD to transfer them!

And thanks DR Kerry, for the mention of my William Reynold's interview! I think it turned out swell! And he is a neat guy, too!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 11:25:00 AM
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Poppycock Original For more than 40 years, POPPYCOCK® has been the Nuttiest Gourmet Popcorn. Always crunchy and splendidly scrumptious, POPPYCOCK clusters are a savory sensation. Loaded with premium nuts and fluffy popcorn topped with deliciously rich glazes, POPPYCOCK is a potpourri of tantalizing tastes

Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 11:26:49 AM
Oh, I do love the Poppycock
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 11:27:41 AM
I am having a very busy day at work today so (as DR Jose would say) Laters!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 11:32:40 AM
but before I go...
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 11:33:27 AM
and one for Mahler....
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 11:35:12 AM
POPPYCOCK!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Sandra on February 04, 2005, 11:35:58 AM
Now I'm hungry.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 11:39:13 AM
Jane, I'm trying to wrap my brain around some logistics:  How far is your mailbox from your house?

I don't know, almost half a mile on our country road-way to dark to walk it in the evening.

I'm still waiting for our mutual friend to build her house on this quiet road.  Tired of waiting we decided to begin walking together once a week.  It has been fun.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2005, 11:42:28 AM
Have we had a posting yet about how much the cut pinkie bled?

If medical attention has not been given, DR Jennifer, are you (I hope) watching to make sure that red streaks don't start traveling up your arm from the site of the wound?

That's a sign of infection...so if it happens, do please seek "medical attention."

Was the first question serious or sarcastic?

If it was serious, it was actually bleeding for a long while (like 2+ hours).

It has since stopped bleeding. And i had it bandaged.  But it's starting to throb.I called the clinic to speak to a nurse to ask if i should have it looked at. She was not clear.  She basically said that if i was worried i could go in. But i really wanted her to say more.

Btw, it's not  a big cut.  It's a circle on my pinkie where the fingerprint is. It is about 5mm in diameter and maybe 1.5mm thick.

I've been holding it up, which relieves the pressure. But it feels like the blood has been drained from it. :(
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
If you are at all worried, go to the clinic.  It won't hurt to go, and you'll feel better knowing nothing is wrong or, if something needs to be attended to, they can do it.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 11:48:34 AM
Holy moley on rye - page four!  POPPYCOCK!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 11:57:35 AM
Have we had a posting yet about how much the cut pinkie bled?

If medical attention has not been given, DR Jennifer, are you (I hope) watching to make sure that red streaks don't start traveling up your arm from the site of the wound?

That's a sign of infection...so if it happens, do please seek "medical attention."

Very good and important advice!

Jennifer, don’t just bandage it.  You need a butterfly band aid, if possible, but make sure it is pulled together as tight as possible so it will hold.

If you think the cut isn't too deep and didn't cause any damage to a nerve or something and you can keep the wound shut and clean you probably don't need stitches.  Sometimes that is a hard call to make.  The pain sounds normal to me.

Did you clean the cut well, first with peroxide and then with rubbing alcohol or any disinfectant?  I would keep it clean and keep using a triple antibiotic ointment on it.  It could take several days before it stops opening back up.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 11:58:24 AM
Ben & Ron thank you for the links-such sad, sad news.  I just love his face.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Sandra on February 04, 2005, 12:04:17 PM
OK, I need 61 more words on rhetoric. Anybody?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2005, 12:08:59 PM
DR JENNIFER go to the clinic!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2005, 12:09:32 PM
DR SANDRA my favorite thing about Rhetoric was at the end of the movie when he left Scarlett.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 12:09:56 PM
OK, I need 61 more words on rhetoric. Anybody?



Perhaps this will help, no cheating now..... :D


http://www.public.iastate.edu/%7Ehoneyl/Rhetoric/oneindex.html

Rhetoric is the counterpart of Dialectic. It is a subject that can be treated systematically. The argumentative modes of persuasion are the essence of the art of rhetoric: appeals to the emotions warp the judgement. The writers of current text- books on rhetoric give too much attention to the forensic branch (in which chicanery is easier) and too little to the political (where the issues are larger). Argumentative persuasion is a sort of demonstration, and the rhetorical form of demonstration is the enthymeme. Four uses of rhetoric. Its possible abuse is no argument against its proper use on the side of truth and justice. The honest rhetorician has no separate name to distinguish him from the dishonest.

Definition of rhetoric as "the faculty of observing in any given case the available means of persuasion." Of the modes of persuasion some belong strictly to the art of rhetoric and some do not. The rhetorician finds the latter kind (viz. witnesses, contracts, and the like) ready to his hand. The former kind he must provide himself; and it has three divisions -- (1) the speaker's power of evincing a personal character which will make his speech credible (ethos ); (2) his power of stirring the emotions of his hearers (pathos ); (3) his power of proving a truth, or an apparent truth, by means of persuasive arguments (logos ). Hence rhetoric may be regarded as an offshoot of dialectic, and also of ethical (or political) studies. The persuasive arguments are (a) the example, corresponding to induction in dialectic; (b) the enthymeme, corresponding to the syllogism; (c) the apparent enthymeme, corresponding to the apparent syllogism. The enthymeme is a rhetorical syllogism, and the example a rhetorical induction. Rhetoric has regard to classes of men, not to individual men; its subjects, and the premisses from which it argues, are in the main such as present alternative possibilities in the sphere of human action; and it must adapt itself to an audience of untrained thinkers who cannot follow a long train of reasoning. The premisses from which enthymemes are formed are "probabilities" and "signs"; and signs are either fallible or infallible.... The lines of argument, or topics, which enthymemes follow may be distinguished as common (or, general) and special (i.e. special to a single study, such as natural science or ethics). The special lines should be used discreetly, if the rhetorician is not to find himself deserting his own field for another.

 :P ??? ::)






Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 12:15:24 PM
Has Jennifer gone to the clinic?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2005, 12:16:09 PM
Good Afternoon!

Sorry to have been errant and truant until now, but...

I did get up before Noon around 8:30, but then I fell asleep again, and the next thing I knew it was 11:45.  Ah, well...  After getting out of bed, I took care of my usual daily internet stuff, then headed downstairs for my workout.  Then upstairs for breakfast/brunch/lunch and the Friday newspaper.  Then, taking the "hint" from the note my Mom left on the counter, I vacuumed the carpets.  -I have to say it still amazes me just how "messy" my parents can be at times.  ;)

And, now, I'm here...
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2005, 12:17:27 PM
DR Jennifer - Go to the clinic.  It may be a minor thing, but since it continued to bleed for two hours...

Of course, now we all want to know exactly how it happened.  ;)
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Sandra on February 04, 2005, 12:19:16 PM
Thank you, Vixmom. I would probably get in trouble if I lifted from Aristotle.

OK, I came up with my last 61 words, and I'm ready to go home. I'll have to see if I can post my assignment for my IAAAAWWOTD class (how's that for an abbreviation?) from home on the neighbor's wireless connection. If not, my teacher will bite my head off and we'll all have something to talk about.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 12:20:20 PM
I'm taking a break.  I got through the little section of the book I was working on, a major little plot moment.  I just looked at the current page number and was shocked to see how far along I am just short of three weeks in.  I think the stuff won't go quite as fast, but who knows, maybe it will.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2005, 12:24:39 PM
Very good and important advice!

Jennifer, don’t just bandage it.  You need a butterfly band aid, if possible, but make sure it is pulled together as tight as possible so it will hold.

If you think the cut isn't too deep and didn't cause any damage to a nerve or something and you can keep the wound shut and clean you probably don't need stitches.  Sometimes that is a hard call to make.  The pain sounds normal to me.

Did you clean the cut well, first with peroxide and then with rubbing alcohol or any disinfectant?  I would keep it clean and keep using a triple antibiotic ointment on it.  It could take several days before it stops opening back up.


Going to the clinic is not possible right now since my car is not here.

I didn't use peroxide or rubbing alcohol. I cleaned it with soap and water and put an antibiotic cream.

I will show it to some people in a couple of hours and see what they think.

DR Jose, actually I was cutting a piece of cheese and i guess i just didn't notice that my pinkie had lodged itself under the knife.  Not too exciting. :(

Thanks for the advice DR Jane and others.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Rodzinski on February 04, 2005, 12:25:07 PM
I vote clinic, Jennifer. Two hours is too long. And you can't type and nurse a wound at the same time!


Rhetoric is poppycock.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2005, 12:25:54 PM
Friday Media Check:

CD Player:

"Unsung Sondheim" - Thank you, BK.  Thank you, DR elmore.
"Frenesi" - Linda Ronstadt
Lady In The Dark - Original 1963 Studio Cast Recording with Rise Stevens.
"Live at the Cimarron Ballrom" - Patsy Cline
"2" - Rockapella
Follies - OCR
I Can Get It For You Wholesale - OCR
"Billie Holiday" - Compilation from Ken Burns' "Jazz"
"October Road"- James Taylor

And, finally - and unfortunately...
Fame: The Musical - 1999 Original American Cast Recording - I won this from the now defunct MTI contest a few years ago, and I finally put this in the CD player.  I knew it was going to be "not good" before I pushed play, and after it finished... Ugh!  The weird part is that I had actually MD'ed one of the first US productions of this show a couple of years ago, and there were actually some nice things in it.  Of course, when I got to a track whose title I recognized, the whole number had been either restructured and/or rewritten.  Ah, well...
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 12:26:07 PM
If not, my teacher will bite my head off


If that happens you should DEFINITELY go to the clinic

 :D
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 12:28:32 PM
http://www.samepath.com/firstaid/cuts.htm

"Any kind of wound that breaks the skin is prone to infection especially a wound that is deep and does not bleed very much. Very close attention will need to be spent over the next several days when dressing a wound to make sure no signs of infection are present. Signs of infection include swelling, white discharge, a red circle around the wound, or red streaks in the area of the wound. Any kind of infection can be serious and medical attention should be sought. "



http://expage.com/page/cutsandabrasions

"CUTS AND ABRASIONS
THE PROPER TREATMENT

CUTS:
1. Cleanse area thoroughly with soap and warm water, carefully washing away any dirt.
2. Apply direct pressure to wound until bleeding stops.
3. Put sterile bandage on wound.
4. If cut is deep, get to a doctor as quickly as possible."
 


Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Rodzinski on February 04, 2005, 12:29:48 PM
Also, Can I take the time to say that this site is the greatest?

First, such a welcoming bunch of folks; then, I swear, practically every post references some wonderful bit of esoterica that I myself have in my field of interest. Of course, there is the occasional pinkie wound as well, but even though I live in a cultural mecca, it is not easy for me to find people who can readily discuss Larry Clinton, Ben Bagley, Rod McKuen, Paul Petersen, Killer Klowns and so on.

Really, a life-affirming place!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 12:29:55 PM
Vixmom-LOL
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2005, 12:31:16 PM
I vote clinic, Jennifer. Two hours is too long. And you can't type and nurse a wound at the same time!

Well i'm not using my pinkie needless to say. :)
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2005, 12:32:25 PM
Oh...  And...

"Bright Eyed Joy" - The Songs of Ricky Ian Gordon
"The Complete Songs of Samuel Barber" - with Cheryl Studer and Thomas Hampson.  I'm not too fond of Ms. Studer's contribution to this set, but...

-I keep meaning to check if Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau's recording of the Three Songs, Op. 45, have ever made it to CD.  I loved listening to that LP when I was in college.  "A Green Lowland of Pianos" is one of my favorite art songs.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2005, 12:32:52 PM
Thanks DR vixmom.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 12:33:32 PM
Ditto what Rodzinski said.

It is incredibly beautiful today.  I shall now go do an errand or three and then shall return.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ginny on February 04, 2005, 12:34:38 PM
If that happens you should DEFINITELY go to the clinic

 :D
Moms everywhere would concur!  This mom also thinks Jennifer should have her finger examined.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2005, 12:35:01 PM
BK - "The Quintessence" was the first CD that was used in my Jazz Arranging I class in college.  We had to transcribe horn lines.  Great listening.  And great use of french horns too!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Stuart on February 04, 2005, 12:35:35 PM
Well i'm not using my pinkie needless to say. :)

Who does?  You have eight other perfectly serviceable fingers with which to type!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2005, 12:35:53 PM
OK - Time for me to take care of some things before everybody starts shutting down for the weekend...

Laters...
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Stuart on February 04, 2005, 12:38:15 PM
Also, Can I take the time to say that this site is the greatest?

First, such a welcoming bunch of folks; then, I swear, practically every post references some wonderful bit of esoterica that I myself have in my field of interest. Of course, there is the occasional pinkie wound as well, but even though I live in a cultural mecca, it is not easy for me to find people who can readily discuss Larry Clinton, Ben Bagley, Rod McKuen, Paul Petersen, Killer Klowns and so on.

Really, a life-affirming place!


And wait 'til we REALLY get going on food!

I think BK covered it slightly above, but you, and DR Vixmom, are very welcome additions to our little family.  And both of you seem to have fit right in, with barely a ripple in the water.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: George on February 04, 2005, 12:45:14 PM
Also, Can I take the time to say that this site is the greatest?

First, such a welcoming bunch of folks; then, I swear, practically every post references some wonderful bit of esoterica that I myself have in my field of interest. Of course, there is the occasional pinkie wound as well, but even though I live in a cultural mecca, it is not easy for me to find people who can readily discuss Larry Clinton, Ben Bagley, Rod McKuen, Paul Petersen, Killer Klowns and so on.

Really, a life-affirming place!

Welcome to HHW, DR Rodzinski!!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 12:52:55 PM
Going to the clinic is not possible right now since my car is not here.

I didn't use peroxide or rubbing alcohol. I cleaned it with soap and water and put an antibiotic cream.

I will show it to some people in a couple of hours and see what they think.

DR Jose, actually I was cutting a piece of cheese and i guess i just didn't notice that my pinkie had lodged itself under the knife.  Not too exciting. :(

Thanks for the advice DR Jane and others.

Well, geez....take a picture of it and show it to us, too.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 12:54:03 PM
Moms everywhere would concur!  This mom also thinks Jennifer should have her finger examined.

and if she doesn't, she should get her head examined!! :D
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 12:55:39 PM
Who does?  You have eight other perfectly serviceable fingers with which to type!

People use more than two?!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2005, 12:56:14 PM
Who does?  You have eight other perfectly serviceable fingers with which to type!

I have nine! :)
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 12:57:41 PM
I have a fair bunch of DVDs on pre-order w/Amazon.com.

Two of them were released Tuesday, and both had been ordered for 2nd day delivery.  But as of yesterday, I had received no word from Amazon that they'd been shipped, and when I viewed my account, they were still listed as pre-orders.

I sent off a little nastygram asking what was up and the said, "Shucks, Puddin', we plumb forgot!"

Well, not exactly that.  They blamed it on a technical glitch and said they'd do their best to get the DVDs to me asap.

In today's mail I received the fourth season of "Oz", fulfilling one of the pre-orders.  The shipping charge was standard mail pricing, but they expressed it (and, yes, I think that was the LEAST they could have done).

The other DVD is still listed as being "processed" for shipment...it's the fourth season of "Frasier" and the one I'm most anxious to get my hands on as that season had some of the best shows in the entire series.

I have the complete third season of "Soap" to view, as well.  It arrived last week.

I'm getting WAY behind on my  TV series DVD viewings.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 01:01:21 PM
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Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 01:01:28 PM
Ron, I’m thinking of making your corn bread recipe to serve to company tomorrow.  Should I make it tonight, tomorrow morning, or just before serving?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 01:03:21 PM
Make a batch tonight for the practice...and then make a batch that you can take right out of the oven so it's hot and so butter melts upon contact.

(This way, you'll have extra cornbread if you run out tomorrow, and then you can just reheat it and your guests won't really know).
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2005, 01:11:06 PM
This Doris Day boxed set of DVDs that's coming up later this year. OK, we know LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME and BILLY ROSE'S JUMBO are included. They've already been announced as coming this year. What else did she do at MGM that will be in this set?

PLEASE DON'T EAT THE DAISIES
THE GLASS BOTTOMED BOAT
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE LIGHTS WENT OUT?

Any more (I guess they could also do a lot of her Warner films since she was under contract to them during her first 7 years in Hollywood)?

(I just saw IT HAPPENED TO JANE advertised in the Critic's Choice catalog.)
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Michael on February 04, 2005, 01:12:27 PM
Not sure if anyone reported this yet, but I just saw the actor-writer-activist Ossie Davis passed away today at the age of 87 here in South Florida
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2005, 01:13:42 PM
Now that I think about it, I think I did read that YOUNG MAN WITH A HORN was being released this year, and she's third billed in that. I'll bet that's one of them.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2005, 01:14:37 PM
Yes, DR Michael, a couple of people have posted about this sad loss and even given links to some obits for him.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 01:27:14 PM
This Doris Day boxed set of DVDs that's coming up later this year. OK, we know LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME and BILLY ROSE'S JUMBO are included. They've already been announced as coming this year. What else did she do at MGM that will be in this set?

PLEASE DON'T EAT THE DAISIES
THE GLASS BOTTOMED BOAT
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE LIGHTS WENT OUT?

Any more (I guess they could also do a lot of her Warner films since she was under contract to them during her first 7 years in Hollywood)?

(I just saw IT HAPPENED TO JANE advertised in the Critic's Choice catalog.)


Other MGM titles with DoDo:

Julie
Teacher's Pet
Tunnel of Love

All winners, IMO
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 01:27:56 PM
I'm back.  So pretty outside.  Gentle breeze, blue skies.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 01:28:27 PM
I'm heating the pool, but at the rate it's heating I'll be able to swim at about nine tonight.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 01:33:50 PM
I'm heating the pool, but at the rate it's heating I'll be able to swim at about nine tonight.

My pool is frozen solid, if I start heating it now I should be able to swim May 19th
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 01:36:37 PM
 
http://www.donogh.com/cooking/holiday/poppycoc.shtml

"Poppycock is easy and fun to make. Pack in fancy tins to give as a nice gift. You can use whatever nuts you like (or even none if you don't like nuts). You can also make Hawaiian poppycock by adding pineapple chunks (well drained) with the nuts.
 
Ingredients:  
2 cups brown sugar
1 cup butter
1/2 cup corn syrup
1/4 teaspoon cream of tartar
1/2 teaspoon baking soda
16 cups popped popcorn
Nuts as desired

 
   
Directions:
Mix brown sugar, butter and corn syrup together in a saucepan. Heat to boiling and boil for 5 minutes.


Remove from head and add cream of tartar and baking soda. It will foam up.


Put the popcorn and nuts on a cookie sheet. Pour the sugar mixture over.


Bake at 300 degrees F. for about 20 minutes, stirring once.


Remove from the oven, cool, and break apart."

 
 
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 01:38:37 PM
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Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 01:39:23 PM
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DR RON and anyone else interested.  The photos from New York's Fashion Week featuring the winners of Project Runway are at the link.

Don't look if you don't want to know.  I am horrified!  :P

I'm not sure I understand what it is you saw that horrified you.  I saw the four finalists, as were left standing at the end of Wednesday's show...Jay, Austin, Wendy and Kara.

All of them are pictured at Project Runway.  I found nothing about a winner (singular).  Can you clue me????
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 01:43:05 PM
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Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 01:48:58 PM

Ron thanks and it will just be four of us.  I think one batch should be enough.  I just noticed your recipe doesn't mention what size pan.   Also what is your oil of preference?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 01:52:13 PM
I believe I have done justice to the word o f the day

my work here is done...

night all!!! 4:53 PM  EST time to hit the road!!!

Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 01:55:22 PM

Ron thanks and it will just be four of us.  I think one batch should be enough.  I just noticed your recipe doesn't mention what size pan.   Also what is your oil of preference?


I use an iron skillet...12-inch.  I put the skillet with a bit of oil in the oven while pre-heating.

When the oven is F 350, I pick up pan (using oven mitts) and slowly swirl canola oil around to coat bottom and sides of pan.  I then pour batter into pan and close oven door.  I use canola oil for all cooking that involves baking in oven or frying at high temps.  I use olive oil for remainder of things I cook

When it's done, the cornbread will be separated from the side of the pan...and it should slide right out.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2005, 01:58:02 PM

Ron thanks and it will just be four of us.  I think one batch should be enough.  I just noticed your recipe doesn't mention what size pan.   Also what is your oil of preference?


Oil in cornbread?

Melted butter!!!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2005, 01:59:05 PM
Oil in cornbread?

Melted butter!!!

Yet one more reason for me to get out of Richmond.

 :P
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2005, 01:59:51 PM
Just read that the HAPPY DAYS reunion special last night was a big, big ratings hit. So, I suspect we'll be getting LAVERNE & SHIRLEY, WHAT'S HAPPENIN', and other ABC sitcoms being given the tribute treatment in time for May sweeps.

Didn't they do a WELCOME BACK, KOTTER already?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 02:01:16 PM
Yes, Rodzinski, you have found heaven's cultural clearing-house...welcome!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 02:02:43 PM
I'm not sure I understand what it is you saw that horrified you.  I saw the four finalists, as were left standing at the end of Wednesday's show...Jay, Austin, Wendy and Kara.

All of them are pictured at Project Runway.  I found nothing about a winner (singular).  Can you clue me????

I agree.  I don’t really know what Project Runway is, but some of the outfits were lovely.  There is the one see-through top, but take the bow off and add an appropriate undergarment, and I think it’s very pretty.


Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 02:04:40 PM
Matt H, we haven’t finished watching the HAPPY DAYS REUNION, but so far we are enjoying it.  Some of the stories are fun to hear and it sure beats watching a stupid story.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Michael on February 04, 2005, 02:19:57 PM
MattH, we usually go to my business manager's house for the Super Bowl, but he is.......  One year, Jane Krakowski showed up as someone's date.

What was here name? ;D
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Michael on February 04, 2005, 02:26:35 PM
 

DRMichael Shayne, Ben Bagley was one of the funniest men I ever met, and he was one of the cheapest.  By the early 1980s, when I worked with him, he was recording on the lowest possible budget and he had absolutely no artistic standards because the time and money spent were far more important than the artistry; his attitude toward wrong notes was "we'll take them out in the mix" and a session was like a casting call:  "lovely, thank you, next!"  The irony was that he claimed poverty and lived rather well in a lovely apartment in Queens, which I was lucky to see when Ben invited me one night to dinner.  The walls were covered in the original Harvey Schmidt artwork for the "Revisited" album covers.

Joanne Woodward was a total delight. She liked singing, and she seemed quite thrilled to be doing a recording!   She was fighting a cold so she was drinking lots of tea and taking lots of vitamin C, which we both agreed was the best remedy.  She did a duet with her singing teacher, Andy Anselmo.  It was for the same (?) Jerome Kern Revisited album that I did a chart for Rod McKuen, who was an old friend of Ben's.  He was also a charming, friendly guy, and I liked him and Miss Woodward both very much.

The song that Miss Woodward sang was "The Bull Frog Patrol," and Ben liked the "Scott Joplin" arrangement so much that he stuck a bit of it before the song itself.  Unfortunately, the tempo of the song had picked up in the session, so when the piece of music Ben decided to use as an intro meets the actual song's beginning, there's a bit of a traffic jam

Did you do any other Ben Bagley's??
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Michael on February 04, 2005, 02:39:29 PM
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Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 02:43:32 PM
Just had a lovely walk.  
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 02:45:44 PM
Was the first question serious or sarcastic?

If it was serious, it was actually bleeding for a long while (like 2+ hours).

It has since stopped bleeding. And i had it bandaged.  But it's starting to throb.I called the clinic to speak to a nurse to ask if i should have it looked at. She was not clear.  She basically said that if i was worried i could go in. But i really wanted her to say more.

Btw, it's not  a big cut.  It's a circle on my pinkie where the fingerprint is. It is about 5mm in diameter and maybe 1.5mm thick.

I've been holding it up, which relieves the pressure. But it feels like the blood has been drained from it. :(

DRJennifer, you might need a tetanus shot.  And some pain pills.  Tylenol with codeine seems to be my doctor's drug du jour.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 02:46:49 PM
OK, I need 61 more words on rhetoric. Anybody?

It's a bore.  58 to go!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 02:49:32 PM
Oh...  And...

"Bright Eyed Joy" - The Songs of Ricky Ian Gordon


Ricky never met a tone cluster he didn't like.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 02:51:01 PM
Who does?  You have eight other perfectly serviceable fingers with which to type!

Or to play the harp.  DRJennifer, get thee to a clinic!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: td on February 04, 2005, 02:51:05 PM
I'm agog and aghast!  DR Matt must not read the Scarlet Street Forums where I posted the contents (actually the press release) for the contents of the Doris Day boxed set from Warner.  Two of the titles - PAJAMA GAME and CALAMITY JANE - have been previously released:

 The Doris Day Collection

Young Man With a Horn, Lullaby of Broadway, Please Don't Eat the Daisies, The Glass Bottom Boat, Love Me or Leave Me, Billy Rose's "Jumbo" Six New-to-DVD Titles and Two Previously Released Classics Available April 26 from Warner Home Video

Burbank, Calif. January 26, 2005 - Doris Day -- whose on-screen wholesomeness, unfailing optimism and understated strength of character helped make her America's sweetheart in the '50s and '60s -- comes to DVD on April 26 with eight of her films. Warner Home Video's The Doris Day Collection features six new-to-DVD titles -- Young Man With a Horn, Lullaby of Broadway, Love Me or Leave Me, Billy Rose's "Jumbo", Please Don't Eat the Daisies, The Glass Bottom Boat -- along with two of Ms. Day's all-time favorite musicals, Calamity Jane and Pajama Game which have been repackaged for the Collection. All DVDs are packed with bonus features including vintage shorts and featurettes, cartoons, trailers and more. The gift set will be available for $88.92 SRP. Each title is also available separately for $19.97 SRP/$14.95 MAP. Orders are due March 29.

Born Doris Mary Ann Von Kapplehoff in Cincinnati, Ohio, Ms. Day started out as a dancer, but after a near-fatal car crash ended her hopes of becoming a ballerina, at her mother's suggestion she began refining her vocal skills. With a voice of distinct beauty at just 14 years of age, Ms. Day was soon discovered by a vocal coach who arranged an appearance on a local radio station.

Soon after, the young songstress met local bandleader Barney Rapp who convinced her to adopt the moniker that would soon become a household name. Rapp suggested "Day" after the song "Day after Day" which was part of her repertoire. Ms. Day toured briefly with Rapp's band, as well as those of Bob Crosby and Les Brown, and then set out on her own in the late 1940s.

Ms. Day's film career began in 1948 after a screen test at Warner Bros. resulted in her first film role in the smash-hit musical Romance on the High Seas. It was in this film that she introduced the hit song "It's Magic". The song and the film catapulted her to super-stardom. Throughout the 1950s she appeared in dozens of films from musicals to dramas to comedies. By the 1960s she was best known for a string of successful romantic comedies opposite some of Hollywood's greatest leading men including Cary Grant, James Garner, Rod Taylor and Rock Hudson. In 1960, she earned a Best Actress Oscar® nomination for her role in the hugely popular Pillow Talk with Hudson.

In April of 1968, Ms. Day's film career came to an abrupt end with the death of her third husband, manager/producer Marty Melcher. Left penniless and deeply in debt through what turned out to be a series of sordid investments by Melcher, Ms. Day soon bounced back and found success in television with "The Doris Day Show." Now in her 80s, Ms. Day is an active and vocal supporter of animal rights, focusing the majority of her attention on her Animal League and Animal Foundation organizations.

Details of The Doris Day Collection Films

Young Man With a Horn (1950)
With a second-hand trumpet and the loving guidance of a brilliant bluesman, a lonely boy grows into manhood as a superb musician whose talent carries him from honky-tonks to posh supper clubs. But his desperate search for the elusive high note, trapped in his mind but impossible to play, starts him on a boozy downward slide. Charged with dynamic performances by Kirk Douglas (the title role), Doris Day, Lauren Bacall and Hoagy Carmichael and pitch-perfect direction by Michael Curtiz, the film is a feast of hot, cool, moody jazz. Legendary Harry James dubbed Douglas' horn work.

DVD special features include:
* Doris Day trailer gallery
* Languages: English & French
* Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

Lullaby of Broadway (1951)
Day danced divinely and sang in this musical delight about a singer newly arrived in New York and destined for Great White Way fame in the capable company of co-stars Gene Nelson, S.Z. Sakall, Billy DeWolfe, Gladys George and Florence Bates. Highlights are the inclusion of the Oscar®-winning title tune, Cole Porter's "Just One of Those Things", "Somebody Loves Me" and six more songs.

DVD special features include:
* Doris Day trailer gallery
* Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

Love Me or Leave Me (1955)
Laced with Doris Day's vibrant performances of songs from the era, this 1955 Academy Award® winner (Best Motion Picture Story) is the tough-minded true tale of Ruth Etting's life with the man who boosted her career with strong-arm tactics yet smothered her in an obsessive grip she escaped at great peril. As Martin "The Gimp" Snyder, James Cagney earned one of the film's six Oscar® nominations. Ms. Day's Etting was a career-best dramatic performance, bringing acclaim from critics and protest letters from fans unprepared for the departure from her traditionally sunny roles.

DVD special features include:
* Soundtrack remastered in Dolby Digital 5.1
* Three vintage shorts, the first two with Ruth Etting
- A Modern Cinderella
- Roseland
- A Salute to the Theatres
* Theatrical trailer
* Languages: English & French
* Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

Billy Rose's Jumbo (1962)
Radiant Doris Day sings beloved Rodgers and Hart tunes and does her own horseback riding tricks in this razzle-dazzle musical based on Billy Rose's stage spectacular and featuring circus sequences directed by Busby Berkeley. The story revolves around a circus owner (Jimmy Durante, star of the 1935 Broadway original) with only two real attractions: his daughter (Day) and popular pachyderm Jumbo. Three-ring pandemonium breaks out when a handsome rival (Stephen Boyd) infiltrates the circus, and father, daughter and Dad's wisecracking fiancée (Martha Raye) are suddenly at risk of losing the greatest show on earth.

DVD Special Features include:
* Soundtrack remastered in Dolby Digital 5.1
* Musical short Yours Sincerely
* Tom and Jerry cartoon Jerry and Jumbo
* Original overture rejoined to the film for the first time in more than 40 years
* Theatrical trailer
* Languages: English & French
* Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

Please Don't Eat the Daisies (1962)
Ms. Day brings her trademark radiance to this jovial comedy from the bestseller by playwright Jean Kerr. With Janis Paige, Spring Byington and Richard Haydn on hand for snappy comic support, Please Don't Eat the Daisies is breezy family fun with popular songs "Please Don't Eat the Daisies" and "Anyway the Wind Blows."

DVD special features include:
* Theatrical trailer
* Languages: English & French
* Subtitles: English, French, Spanish

The Glass Bottom Boat (1966)
Doris Day entered her eighth consecutive year as a Top-10 Box-Office Star when she boarded The Glass Bottom Boat, a blending of romantic comedy and the era's burgeoning spy-movie genre. Frank Tashlin directs with a cartoonist's sensibility, embracing everything from spy guises to push-button chaos in a futuristic kitchen. The film also stars top comedians Arthur Godfrey, Paul Lynde, Edward Andrews, John McGiver, Dom DeLuise and Dick Martin.

DVD special features include:
* Three vintage featurettes:
o Catalina Island
o Every Girl's Dream
o NASA
* Oscar®-winning cartoon The Dot and the Line
* Theatrical trailer
* Languages: English & French
* Subtitles: English, French, Spanish
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: td on February 04, 2005, 02:52:47 PM
I'm very excited about "The Dot and the Line" making it to dvd.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jed on February 04, 2005, 02:54:53 PM
MattH, we usually go to my business manager's house for the Super Bowl, but he is actually going to the game this year...so that won't be happening.  Like you, I could care less about the game...but there is always great food and lots of entertaining folk there, so I can spend three splendid hours and never watch a minute of the game.  One year, Jane Krakowski showed up as someone's date.

I'd be all too happy to be anywhere Jane Krakowski is!  Just gotta find a way to distract that fershluganah date of hers...
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 02:55:29 PM
Yes, Rodzinski, you have found heaven's cultural clearing-house...welcome!

DRPogue, LOL! ;D
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 03:00:39 PM
I was under the impression Melcher had made a commitment for THE DORIS DAY SHOW, which she didn’t want to do, but the trooper Doris did it-plus she needed the money.  The second season changes, when her character moves to the big city. were her doing.

Off to the market.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 03:03:46 PM
Did you do any other Ben Bagley's??

Dennis Deal used to call me when he got stuck for time, so I know I've got charts on several of the revisiteds; I just can't remember any more!   I copied the WONDERFUL TOWN "Conquering the City" band parts for either Dennis or Albert Evans on "Leonard Bernstein Revisited," but it's been too long ago.  I had been asked by a film producer to write a film score for a small independent film and I lost the job because I had no recording studio experience in the early 1980s, and I found working with Ben was a good intro to the recording process.  The recording I consider my first good album was the Book-of-the-Month Club "Songs of New York," but it was working with Dear Friend BK that turned me into a virtuoso.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 03:05:35 PM
Someday if I eat enough coconut cream pie, perhaps I'll tell you a few of my cherce Krakowski stories.  
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 03:11:01 PM
Okay, I know it's not question day, but I know I will not remember this question for when question day rolls around again.  Outside of a job in the Arts, what would be your dream job?  Mine would be Li'l Abner's job...which was demonstrating the comfort  and sleep-ability of mattresses in a store display window.  What a great job, getting paid to sleep for 8 hours a day and then having 16 hours to kick around and do what you want.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jed on February 04, 2005, 03:28:59 PM
When the oven is F 350, I pick up pan (using oven mitts) and slowly swirl...

I highly recommend following his advice of oven mitts here, NOT a dish towel!  :D
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2005, 03:41:05 PM
DR JANE - I think Doris describes her TV series experience as you remember it.  She had been signed up for it by Mr Melcher before his demise, and she didn't even know it.

DR RON -  when I first saw the Project Runway photos I did NOT see Kara Saun, on a second look I did - so all four of the designers are there - but you are right there is no winner listed.  I was afraid Kara was gone and Wendy was there instead.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2005, 03:41:43 PM
DR Jane there are very few low-cut gowns that can't be helped with a turtle neck sweater - depending upon the wearer, of course.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: George on February 04, 2005, 03:42:52 PM
I highly recommend following his advice of oven mitts here, NOT a dish towel!  :D

Jed, are you making recommendation because of personal experience?? :o
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 03:44:52 PM
My dream job would be someone who got paid lots of money to watch DVDs.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jed on February 04, 2005, 03:48:17 PM
Jed, are you making recommendation because of personal experience?? :o

Well, in my defense, it only took one dish towel bursting into flames in my hand for me to learn this lesson!  ;D
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 04:10:29 PM
POPPYCOCK!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2005, 04:19:43 PM
I did go to the clinic & saw the nurse. She said i didn't need to see the doc.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 04:29:45 PM
I did go to the clinic & saw the nurse. She said i didn't need to see the doc.

And now you don't need to worry about it.  Of course, you must take care of it.  

Don't leave it bandaged for long periods.  When it's feasible, such as during your sleeping hours, remove the bandage.  Air is a wonderful healer and it will minimize the chance of moisture aiding any germs that might linger around the cut.

DO place a fresh bandage on it daily until you're certain the cut is healing.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 04:36:32 PM
Now you can rest easy.  

About five more degrees and I'll go take a swim.  I'm one of these people who need the water really warm.

And then there is dinner.  Whatever shall I have?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 04:43:52 PM
AOL is being completely lame - can't get to any websites.  But, here I am on Safari.  Yes, you heard it here, dear readers, adventurous BK is on Safari.

Now, what in tarnation shall I eat?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 04:47:49 PM
WFO, would you be coming to a reading/signing should we do one?  Yes or no?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jennifer on February 04, 2005, 04:56:38 PM
And now you don't need to worry about it.  Of course, you must take care of it.  

Don't leave it bandaged for long periods.  When it's feasible, such as during your sleeping hours, remove the bandage.  Air is a wonderful healer and it will minimize the chance of moisture aiding any germs that might linger around the cut.

DO place a fresh bandage on it daily until you're certain the cut is healing.

The nurse said that i should bandage it today and then not remove it for a day or two.  She said playing with it, taking off bandages ... would just give it more opportunity to start bleeding again.  Do you think what she advised was wrong?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 04:59:09 PM
I've just been listening to the original cast recording of OKLAHOMA on WMKV.  In this recording they have Alfred Drake sing A LONELY ROOM.  Now I can understand the obvious advantages to having Drake sing this haunting, chilling song over Howard DaSilva...but it is Jud's song.  Now when I played Jud years ago, we cut the song...But I can't think that they'd cut it from the original production...So I'm assuming Da Silva did sing it, why didn't he get to on the cast album?  Anyone know?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2005, 05:08:31 PM
DR Michael Shayne, I am glad that you chose the family friendly photos to create todays word! LOL!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2005, 05:11:01 PM
After work I went to the DMV, then sped up I-5 to Wilsonville where I shopped for DVDs and CDs...came back with a nice bunch of oddities and things...am now listening to a cd by YURI MRAKADI who I think may become my next favorite current singer!

I almost bought this Mexican DVD......
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002DB4VO.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

but changed my mind when I realized it had no English sub-titles...but I can't help thinking it would have  been a fun movie to see!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 05:19:00 PM
I've just been listening to the original cast recording of OKLAHOMA on WMKV.  In this recording they have Alfred Drake sing A LONELY ROOM.  Now I can understand the obvious advantages to having Drake sing this haunting, chilling song over Howard DaSilva...but it is Jud's song.  Now when I played Jud years ago, we cut the song...But I can't think that they'd cut it from the original production...So I'm assuming Da Silva did sing it, why didn't he get to on the cast album?  Anyone know?

DRPogue, it's my guess - and ony a guess - that it was felt Howard Da Silva's singing voice wasn't a voice to commit to disc.   When the original OKLAHOMA! 78s were released on LP, LONELY ROOM wasn't included.  I don't recall ever hearing the song until I heard the Nelson Eddy/Kaye Ballard recording in college.  It's a really good recording of OKLAHOMA!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 05:20:53 PM
DR Jane there are very few low-cut gowns that can't be helped with a turtle neck sweater - depending upon the wearer, of course.

LOL-from undergarment to turtle neck sweater.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 05:27:54 PM

Don't leave it bandaged for long periods.  When it's feasible, such as during your sleeping hours, remove the bandage.  Air is a wonderful healer and it will minimize the chance of moisture aiding any germs that might linger around the cut.

DO place a fresh bandage on it daily until you're certain the cut is healing.

Sorry Ron I disagree with you, at least until it begins to close and stay closed.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 05:29:39 PM
I shall be in the pool for a few moments.  Whatever shall I eat after I'm through?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jed on February 04, 2005, 05:31:45 PM
The nurse said that i should bandage it today and then not remove it for a day or two.  She said playing with it, taking off bandages ... would just give it more opportunity to start bleeding again.  Do you think what she advised was wrong?

Always wise to believe the nurse, I think.  And if not the nurse, then certainly believe DR Jane!!!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 05:32:39 PM
I shall be in the pool for a few moments.  Whatever shall I eat after I'm through?

Pizza goes with anything!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Danise on February 04, 2005, 05:36:30 PM
Evening all.

That's ok about the bird, DR Jane.  I guess that kind of think happens.  I didn't see anything wrong with it when I took it down to bury it.  I guess it was just it's time.

Thank you for explaining about where the book store is from The Muse, DR's Jose and Ben.  I did a copy/paste of the address/phone number to put in my PDA.  

I wouldn't mind walking.  You know I get off the bus at least five blocks away from work so I get some exersize.  Lately, I've been getting off no mater how cold it is so I can get used to the cold weather as well.  NYC training as a just in case!  ;) :D

I'm glad that DR Jennifer's finger is doing ok.  I was really worried when I read the earlier posts.  Of course, by the time I get here, the crisis is over (I’m not saying that is a bad thing) and the problem is solved.

We were in the forties for most of the day today.  Burrr.  I was so glad I was wise enough to take my coat with me.  So many people didn’t and I bet they get really ill from the chill I know they had.

We had the President in town again today.  We watched from our windows as he passed by.  Yawn.  As far as I was/am concerned the only thing he did was hold up traffic.  






 
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Danise on February 04, 2005, 05:38:06 PM
Pizza goes with anything!

But the question is:  What toppings?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 05:42:05 PM
Always wise to believe the nurse, I think.  And if not the nurse, then certainly believe DR Jane!!!

LOL-I speak from far too much personal experience.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Danise on February 04, 2005, 05:44:18 PM
Humm, I would have to say there is a case for both sides.  I have heard that air is very good for a wound to help it heal but if it is a bad wound, it should stay wrapped up for a day or two.  

I guess one would have see how the wound is doing.  If it gets all gooey (nasty, I know) I would think air would be good for it.  Sometimes the bandage keeps it to moist.  

I had to modify this.  It didn't make sense when I reread it.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 05:49:24 PM
Always wise to believe the nurse, I think.  And if not the nurse, then certainly believe DR Jane!!!

Nurse Jane is the best in the biz!!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 05:51:17 PM
Humm, I would have to say there is a case for both sides.  I have heard that air is very good for a wound to help it heal but if it is a bad wound, it should stay wrapped up for a day or two.  

If it stays wrapped, you have to keep it dry!  Isn't that right, Nurse Jane?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Danise on February 04, 2005, 05:53:12 PM
I received an e-mail from Amazon.com com that The Sea Hawk is being released to DVD on April 19, 2005.  Didn't someone say that and few other Errol Flynn movies would be in a boxed set?  

If not, I am going to order it.   :D
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Danise on February 04, 2005, 05:55:20 PM
If it stays wrapped, you have to keep it dry!  Isn't that right, Nurse Jane?

Which is (in my case anyway) very hard to do.  I'm forever washing my hands and I can't stop to change a bandaid every time.   :(  It's easier to let the air heal it.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 06:07:34 PM
Yes, I believe all the Flynn releases of that day will also be in a box.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 06:08:23 PM
Pizza sounds good, but I think too many calories and fat grams.  Maybe tacos.  Maybe September.  Maybe This Time.  
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Danise on February 04, 2005, 06:11:33 PM
Then I shall wait for the boxed set.  
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 06:14:35 PM
I'm sure amazon has it listed now.  Just search Errol Flynn.

I'm now thinking about going to Gelson's and getting a nice steak to broil and some salad to have with it.  Doesn't that sound yummilicious?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 06:14:57 PM
POPPYCOCK!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 06:15:42 PM
I'm listening to a wonderful Herb Alpert album entitled Midnight Sun.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 06:16:06 PM
I shall return with food.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 06:18:31 PM
The nurse said that i should bandage it today and then not remove it for a day or two.  She said playing with it, taking off bandages ... would just give it more opportunity to start bleeding again.  Do you think what she advised was wrong?

No.  But, you said it had stopped bleeding, and that was a while before you went to the nurse.

Still...always follow medical advice as given by professionals.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 06:20:13 PM
Humm, I would have to say there is a case for both sides.  I have heard that air is very good for a wound to help it heal but if it is a bad wound, it should stay wrapped up for a day or two.  

I guess one would have see how the wound is doing.  If it gets all gooey (nasty, I know) I would think air would be good for it.  Sometimes the bandage keeps it to moist.  

I had to modify this.  It didn't make sense when I reread it.

Oh, great....the discussion is all about pizza and cuts...and toppings...and whether a wound is gooey.

Or was that the cheese?????
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Michael on February 04, 2005, 06:22:13 PM
DR. Elmoore:

Saw Ben Bagley's thank you to you, "Larry Moore of the ***** ****** for his expert music copying

and he also thanked Treat Williams. What was his relationship with Ben.

He also thanked Jean Seberg and the late and great Brenda Vacarro. Did he get who died mixed up?

And what is Dennis Deal doing these days? (His headshot makes him look like Chuck Norris)
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 06:22:24 PM
Where the frell is TCB these days?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 06:23:11 PM
DR. Elmoore:

Saw Ben Bagley's thank you to you, "Larry Moore of the ***** ****** for his expert music copying

and he also thanked Treat Williams. What was his relationship with Ben.

He also thanked Jean Seberg and the late and great Brenda Vacarro. Did he get who died mixed up?

And what is Dennis Deal doing these days? (His headshot makes him look like Chuck Norris)

Maybe Brenda arrived late for her session????
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Danise on February 04, 2005, 06:24:05 PM
Where the frell is TCB these days?

THAT is a good question.  

Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Danise on February 04, 2005, 06:25:27 PM
Oh, great....the discussion is all about pizza and cuts...and toppings...and whether a wound is gooey.

Or was that the cheese?????

Boxed sets.  You forgot the boxed sets of pizza and cuts and toppings and gooey wounds and cheese..... ;)
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 06:28:43 PM
I've just been listening to the original cast recording of OKLAHOMA on WMKV.  

I can connect but I don't hear anything lately.  Does the station go off the air for stretches at a time?  Do you just click "ON AIR"?  I then go to Windows Media and it should play.  It use to.

BTW did you pick up on who I walked with yesterday?  Someone I like more each time I see her.  :D
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 06:29:05 PM
Nothing like gooey cheese and Errol Flynn, eh?????

And oozing pizzas....yum.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Michael on February 04, 2005, 06:29:28 PM
I also noticed that Noel is not here either. Did I miss something?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 06:29:39 PM
Ron you are back!  What size pan do you bake the corn bread in & what oil do you suggest using?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 06:30:02 PM
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Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Danise on February 04, 2005, 06:30:53 PM
Sorry, Jane.  I didn't.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 06:32:04 PM
I use an iron skillet...12-inch.  I put the skillet with a bit of oil in the oven while pre-heating.

When the oven is F 350, I pick up pan (using oven mitts) and slowly swirl canola oil around to coat bottom and sides of pan.  I then pour batter into pan and close oven door.  I use canola oil for all cooking that involves baking in oven or frying at high temps.  I use olive oil for remainder of things I cook

When it's done, the cornbread will be separated from the side of the pan...and it should slide right out.

DR Jane...see above!!!!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 06:32:57 PM
If it stays wrapped, you have to keep it dry!  Isn't that right, Nurse Jane?

You try keeping a cut on a finger dry.  ;D  I just went through this with an injury I received recently while shoveling snow.  I rubbed a spot clean of skin and had to change the band aid about ten times a day, for over a week.  ::)

Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Michael on February 04, 2005, 06:34:50 PM
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Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 06:38:08 PM
DR Jane...see above!!!!

Except that I’m a ditz I have no idea how I missed that.  No wonder yours is so good-you use an iron skillet.  Now I’m wondering what to do.  We use to have one but that won’t do me much good.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 06:40:33 PM
Except that I’m a ditz I have no idea how I missed that.  No wonder yours is so good-you use an iron skillet.  Now I’m wondering what to do.  We use to have one but that won’t do me much good.

Do you have any 9 X 9 baking pans?

Something that would work, too, is a large pie dish -- the kind you'd bake a deep dish pie in.

A 9 X 12 pan would work, but you might have to check it early in the baking process as you won't want to burn it.

Another idea:  Cupcake tins...cornbread "muffins"!!!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 06:40:36 PM
The Lovely Wife and I took Tewkes for a long walk tonight so he could surf the doggie internet and check and send his pee-mail.  The sunset was gorgeous and the views were clear all the way to the ocean.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 06:42:39 PM
The Lovely Wife and I took Tewkes for a long walk tonight so he could surf the doggie internet and check and send his pee-mail.  The sunset was gorgeous and the views were clear all the way to the ocean.

LOL...nice visual/verbal imagery!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 06:49:46 PM
Jane, assume you mean the lovely Janet Greek.

Yes, you should just be able to click "ON AIR".  And mine just comes on in windows media.  This station gets even better for us west coast folk at around 8 or 9, the late evening hours back east, where it's just almost pure music.  Every once in a while, I have the station re-buffer...and sometimes, disconnect altogether...But that is rarely...I believe it is twenty-four hours...
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Danise on February 04, 2005, 06:54:22 PM
"pee-mail"  B & B both know all about that.  

Night, everyone!   :)
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 06:55:34 PM
Ron I have the pans and muffin tins.  My large, deep dish pie plate is glass.  You did mean tin?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2005, 06:58:34 PM
Jane, assume you mean the lovely Janet Greek.

Yes, you should just be able to click "ON AIR".  And mine just comes on in windows media.  This station gets even better for us west coast folk at around 8 or 9, the late evening hours back east, where it's just almost pure music.  Every once in a while, I have the station re-buffer...and sometimes, disconnect altogether...But that is rarely...I believe it is twenty-four hours...

Yes I do.

Do you have the radio on now?  I'm not getting anything.  ???
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 07:03:51 PM
Maybe Ann, after she's caught up, can answer the TCB question.  As for Noel, he's gone from all boards and ngs, as far as I know.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: elmore3003 on February 04, 2005, 07:07:57 PM
DR. Elmoore:

Saw Ben Bagley's thank you to you, "Larry Moore of the ***** ****** for his expert music copying

and he also thanked Treat Williams. What was his relationship with Ben.

He also thanked Jean Seberg and the late and great Brenda Vacarro. Did he get who died mixed up?

And what is Dennis Deal doing these days? (His headshot makes him look like Chuck Norris)

I am a fantastic copyist!  I have no idea what Ben's relationship if any was with Treat Williams.  Which recording were those notes on?  If it's the Bernstein, I never got the CD.  Some of those late albums were dreadful.

I suspect some of the Seberg/Vacarro comments might have been slams.  Ben used those covers for a lot of ax grinding, but I was not so close to Ben to know any of this madness.  I have no idea what Dennis is up to.  I haven't seen him for probably close to twenty years.  He was a lovely man, kind, funny, very talented.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 07:16:58 PM
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Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 07:33:07 PM
I cannot remember if it was DR derB or DR SWW that recommended "Racing Stripes" as a good family movie, (the age is in and the mind is out) but thank you to whomever it was  Tonight being DH's gaming night,  The Vixter and her friend Emily & I had a girls' night out  

We went to the "China Buffet" and ate many wonderful things and then enjoyed the movie.  I think the movie would have been a tad improved without the "poop' jokes, (but that's just me) but all in all it was a warm, funny, family movie,

Thanks again for suggesting it.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 07:33:42 PM
Have eaten my fill.  Went to Gelson's - they have a carving board section in the deli, where each day they make fresh turkey and prime rib.  I had three slices of the prime rib and some shrimp cocktail.  Quite yummilicious.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 07:34:20 PM
But vixmom, can you come to the reading on Friday?  Can you drag Orr, who missed the last event?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 07:34:44 PM
Did you enjoy your soak bk?

Have you had your lovely steak and salad?

Did you decide about the reading?

Three questions and its not even ask bk day!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 07:35:30 PM
All questions answered except the soak, which was lovely.  I was in the pool for a half-hour.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 07:37:47 PM
But vixmom, can you come to the reading on Friday?  Can you drag Orr, who missed the last event?

Unfortunately not, even if there wasn't the babysitter issue, I work on LI and don't even get off until 5 or 5:30, I'd never make it into the city in time.

Bill mught be able to make it though, depending on his teaaching schedule...I'll ask him.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 07:39:38 PM
I am nearly done with Kritzerland, which I love as much as much as Benjamin Kritzer..  Which reminds me I still owe you my thoughts on Writer's Block !
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 07:46:14 PM
I did enjoy Writers Block, but was a bit perplexed by the end.  But then something you said on this site about the writing process made me go back and reread the last few chapters again and I got an entirely different perspective and it all made sense.

It was a very clever way of doing the story with the different "voices"  (I am intentionally trying to be a bit vague here lest those who have not read it have things spoiled for them)

 I was thrown at first because I was expecting a certain "formula" and you completely pulled the rug out from under me!
 
I have recommended it as well as the Kritzer books to a few friends
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 07:50:33 PM
POPPYCOCK
Nonsense, rubbish.
It’s a fine-sounding expletive, but hardly heard on anybody’s lips these days, and with a dated feel. It seems eminently English: think of elderly ex-Indian-Army colonels in retirement in Tunbridge Wells exploding in wrath over some supposed mismanagement of the country’s affairs and writing disgusted letters to The Times about it. And most of the citations for it in the big Oxford English Dictionary are from British sources. But, as the OED reminds us, the word is actually American in origin, first turning up there about 1865. The OED is silent on its origin, but most modern dictionaries know well where it comes from: the Dutch word pappekak for soft faeces. The word was presumably taken to the USA by Dutch settlers; the scatological associations were lost when the word moved into the English-language community. The first half of the word is closely related to our pap for infants’ soft food; the second half is essentially the same as the old English cack for excrement; the verb form of this word is older than the noun, and has been recorded as far back as the fifteenth century. So there’s no link with the vulgar meaning of cock. Nor is it linked to the sense of cock for rubbish (as in phrases like that’s a load of old cock), as that’s a shortened form of cock and bull story, which comes from a fable concerning a bull and a cockerel.
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Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 07:51:58 PM
Jane, I had the station on when I composed the email...It usually stays on most of the day unless I'm playing CDs, like now.  I had to switch over to soundtracks, because I'm doing writing work which requires wordless music...Prince of Foxes, The King's Thief, Moonfleet, Helen of Troy...
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Ron Pulliam on February 04, 2005, 07:58:04 PM
Ron I have the pans and muffin tins.  My large, deep dish pie plate is glass.  You did mean tin?

No...I meant glass pie plate.  It can withstand temps like F 350 for the cooking time.  It would work beautifully.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 08:03:10 PM
Well its 11:00  in thePM here on the far eastern end of the country and I've been up since 5:30  in the AM, so time to toddle off to dreamland.  Have a lovley evening of chat dear readers!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 08:07:09 PM
vixmom, glad you got "with" Writer's Block, and glad you're enjoying Kritzerland.  I'm most anxious for you to read Kritzer Time.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 08:09:56 PM
vixmom, glad you got "with" Writer's Block, and glad you're enjoying Kritzerland.  I'm most anxious for you to read Kritzer Time.

I've actually been reading a bit slower because I want to extend my time in that world!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: vixmom on February 04, 2005, 08:10:47 PM
Oh I am sleepy...night all!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: MBarnum on February 04, 2005, 08:14:20 PM
Finished watching SKI TROOP ATTACK (1960), a nifty little war film from Roger Corman...he isn't really known for his war films...oddly enough it has much of the music from his film THE WASP WOMAN! Hmmm.

Anyway, it wasn't too bad.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2005, 08:19:50 PM
Three OKLAHOMA! songs didn't make the original 78 package: "It's a Scandal, It's a Outrage," "The Farmer and the Cowman," and "Lonely Room." I'm not sure they were even recorded at the original session.

After the OKLAHOMA set was released and proved to be a huge smash, Decca released a second OKLAHOMA set with those other three songs on it. I suspect they wanted Alfred Drake to record it so they could advertise him as the star on the second set.

We have to recall that early cast recordings often just used stars but not the chorus or ensembles of the shows. FINIAN'S RAINBOW used a studio chorus and just the stars singing the other numbers.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2005, 08:23:33 PM
I am SO looking forward to having Chinese food tomorrow. Hopefully, nothing will happen to keep that from happening.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Matt H. on February 04, 2005, 08:23:56 PM
For those who subscribe to ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY, I have a letter in next week's issue.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2005, 08:45:34 PM
Good Evening!

Well, I popped back into the computer store before heading into the show...  I tried out the other camera I was looking at the other day - the one that was "mis-priced".  Well, it certainly is feature-packed, but the zoom-mechanism/button felt kind of flimsy to me, very easy to nudge accidentally.  So... That solved that problem, so to speak.

Then I moved onto the Canon model I was leaning towards.  Alas, they didn't have any in stock...

I guess someone is trying to tell me something.  Ah, well...

But I did finally buy a "pocket drive" to help me transfer files over from my old laptop, and a set of rechargeable batteries for my present digital camera.  -It actually works fine, but only for long distance shots right now - anything further than 20 feet.  But, over the past few months, it just won't focus properly, if at all, for anything close up - and it used to take wonderful close up shots.  So that's why I've been looking for a new one.

Exciting, huh?

;)
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Jrand73 on February 04, 2005, 08:50:37 PM
The nice thing about watching BLOOD OF THE MUMMY'S TOMB on AMC is that I can check the messages during the commercials.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2005, 08:50:53 PM
DR Ben - Thanks for the clarification of the distance from The Muse to the DBS.  I had a feeling it was a little further than two or three blocks, but...

I do so much walking when I'm in the city, I don't feel like I'm walking "far" until it's something like 15 blocks.  I think I've mentioned before, that I usually walk from the Village up to Times Square - sometimes even further.  A few years ago when I was staying with a friend at 103rd and West End, I would walk down to Times Square from there if I had the time to do so - and enjoy it.

Oh, of course, it's amazing how walking across the island from Avenue to Avenue can seem really long.  Especially if one is running late to play some auditions.

;)
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: td on February 04, 2005, 09:07:24 PM
So, has anybody (other than myself) seen the 1976 flick, TINTORERA:  KILLER SHARK?  I just watched this courtesy of Netflix, and I was bored out of my gourd. . . two hours and SIX MINUTES! ! ??? Why?  Quite a silly picture trying to combine the swingin' seventies with gorgeous Mexican locations, lots of male and female nakedness and sharks. . .The one thing that kept me watching was male lead Andrew Garcia. . .yum.  Oh, and Basil Pouledoris (sp?) contributed the score, John Williams had nothing to be afraid for. . .
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 09:14:29 PM
Just finished The Roaring Twenties.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: td on February 04, 2005, 09:35:56 PM
This man is not looking this way at the female lead in TINTORERA. . .
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 09:51:22 PM
You just finished Roaring Twenties...and what...we're gonna hafta wait till tomorrow's notes to find out what you thought of it?
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 09:54:43 PM
Matth, what was your letter to Entertainment Weekly about?  I just threw their "professional discount" offer of $19 for a year into the trash.  All I need.  Another magazine cluttering up my house I won't read.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Rodzinski on February 04, 2005, 10:01:18 PM
Charles Pogue, I wanted to tell you that I have a Larry Clinton LP broadcast trancription wherein Bea Wain sings "I Dreamt That I Dwelt In Marble Halls" and her vocal is positively transcendant. I found that LP in Ohio and I think I bought it just because of that song title.

Now for my media update:
LP: Soundtrack from forgotten industrial film "Essential Oils of the Far East"
CD: Bobby Goldsboro: Honey
DVD: The Last Unicorn
VHS: Terrorvision, starring the great Gerritt Graham and Mary Woronov
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 10:18:27 PM
Rodzinski, I've got a Clinton LP featuring Bea Wain by Broadcast Records which also has I Dreamt That I Dwelt InMarble Halls, along with the wonderful Shadrach, and the Lovely Wife's and my song, My Reverie..as well as such spiffy numbers as To Devil With The Devil, Night Shades, Foo To You, Please Come Out Of Your Dream...I must play this again and see if all are as spiffy as I remember them.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 10:20:31 PM
Rodzinski, I am also encouraged that a man only 33 can groove on Larry Clinton....Perhaps apres moi, not the deluge...
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: JoseSPiano on February 04, 2005, 10:29:05 PM
OK...

Well, two shows tomorrow, and I definitely cannot wake up around 11:45 like I've been the past few days...

Goodnight.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 10:31:54 PM
Slow night around these here parts.  You'd think it was a Friday night.  We need action, life, ha cha cha.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Rodzinski on February 04, 2005, 10:32:44 PM
I think I've always been behind my own times.

Just dug out the actual LP called "One Night Stand With Larry Clinton", part of a series on Joyce Records probably released in the 70s at some point. This was recorded at "The Streets of Paris Room, International Casino, New York. October, 10, and November 15,  1938" as well as at "Meadowbrook, February 10, 1939".

According to the sleeve, Joyce Records also released One Night Stand LPs with Charlie Barnet, Jan Savitt, Artie Shaw and Elliot Lawrence. "See Your Local Jazz Record Dealer"
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 10:32:47 PM
I like to save the movie comments for the notes, but I will say in advance that this film features one of the greatest moments of screen acting I've ever seen.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Rodzinski on February 04, 2005, 10:34:49 PM
Say, BK, I talked the little lady into coming to the reading as well, should it exist. She works a mere half block from the drama bookstore. So you can count her as another body if that helps. (She is excited to meet John the Trainee).
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 10:38:21 PM
Cooliscious.

Pogue, I got a flyer today for a knockoff of the Ray Courts Show, called Mickey Sinardi's Showstopper Stars Spectacular.  Takes place at... wait for it... The Beverly Garland Hotel.  Such greats as Sybil Danning, Lee Benton, Michael Cole, Rose Marie, Shirley Jones, Stanley Livingston, the ubiquitous June Lockhart, Lee Meriwether, Terry Moore and "nearly 100 more celebrities to be announced soon!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 10:38:48 PM
I think the reading is going to happen - we're just trying to finalize the details.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Rodzinski on February 04, 2005, 10:43:17 PM
Sybil Danning, the soft-core star? What the heck kinda show is it? (Me, not famiiar with the previously mentioned Court show).
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: George on February 04, 2005, 10:58:23 PM
All that talk about the New York reading is pretty darned exciting.  I wish I could go! :-\ Maybe someday.

Tonight, I had the final rehearsal for a local annual show for the Sweet Adelines Women's/Puget Sounders Men's Barbershop Choruses (Chori?).  I have four lines and I didn't quite get them out quickly enough.  I remembered them, but the timing was off.  They'll be perfect tomorrow (they have to be).  We have two performances, so I'll be gone all day.

I forgot (AGAIN...dammit!) to set my VCR to tape tonight's episodes of "Star Trek:  Enterprise" and "Battlestar Galactica" ...  especially after the very traumatizing news of "Enterprise" being cancelled after this season.  Fortunately, both shows are repeated tomorrow.  I have already set my VCR to tape them. ;D

I've had a long day.  I got to work early (7:00) and worked an extra hour and a half to make up time from earlier in the week.  After the rehearsal of either standing or sitting for very long periods of time doing practically nothing, I'm quite tired.  I don't know why. ::) Anyway, I'm claiming Wussburger status with reason, so good night all!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Rodzinski on February 04, 2005, 11:03:17 PM
Good luck with the vocal show, George!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: Charles Pogue on February 04, 2005, 11:15:54 PM
Sybil Danning, the very one...The Ray Court show is a show of movie/TV/Music memorabilia and a room full of usually either aging celebrities from the world of entertainment or young up and coming stars who sell pictures and autographs and other stuff.  Sybil has done this show many times before.   They are generally fun and run the gamut of celebs who are generally happy to be there and enjoying themselves meeting and greeting their fans and others who are grumpy and would rather be someplace else, but making a buck is making a buck.  Bruce and I have become habitues.  

The Courts show also has rooms of dealers selling everything from books to movie posters to magazines to sheet music and misc. memorabilia.  There is usually a contingent of Playboy Bunnies of various vintage there and the occasional porn star.  I believe both Marilyn Chambers and Traci Lords will be putting in an appearance at the one in a couple of weeks.  But you can meet some interesting folk there from the Heydays of Hollywood...like director Vincent Sherman or Bruce Bennett or Johnathan Winters or our own BK, who does it once a year.

BK, I remember the Ray Courts show the last time warning us in their flyer not to be fooled by imitations.  So they must have seen this coming.  Maybe it's why they left the Bev Garland.  No reason not to go to both...This one may cost less to get in the door.  But I hope they would have the memorabilia dealers as well...So Ray has a little competition.  BK did they have a website one could go to...
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 11:46:35 PM
Yes, their website is www.showstopperstars.com.  It's only twelve to get in, and they say there will be dealers galore.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 11:50:16 PM
New notes in nine count them nine mintues.
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 11:51:29 PM
Once more before we go: POPPYCOCK!
Title: Re:THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY
Post by: bk on February 04, 2005, 11:53:21 PM
Holy moley on rye - page 10!