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Title: SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 12:12:41 AM
If you've read the notes you'll know all about what to post.  If you haven't, you'll be in the dark, oh, yes, you'll be in the dark.  

So, let's get our postin' fingers ready and let's go to town with loads of lovely posts.

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Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2003, 12:21:59 AM
I"ll Be Here Tomorrow", "Look Over There" and "I Don't Want To Know" are my favourites from Mr Herman.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2003, 12:24:53 AM
And of course I shall indeed be here tomorrow. (In about 12 hours time). I love the score for "The Grand Tour" and of course the wonderful score for "Mack & Mabel". I rarely play "Dolly" or "Mame. That must mean something.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: George on November 04, 2003, 12:36:38 AM
I'll post about Jerry Herman's songs later after I’ve had time to think (well, after I sleep).

I was going to post a picture ;) at the end of yesterday's posts, but I took too long and the day closed before I was able to.  (I checked back at the regular page before I clicked "post" just to make sure and BK had closed the day.)  So, what I was going to post was this...and I hope that no one minds that it's another attractive picture of a very attractive man (and I don't plan on doing this on a regular basis):
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2003, 04:44:23 AM
Even though the book is weak I do enjoy the score from Dear World and one of my favorite Jerry Herman songs is from DW, Kiss Her Now. I also like Look Over There mentioned by DR Tom. Time Heals Everything, from Mack and Mabel, is a beautiful song. For a nice up-tempo I smile at With You on My Arm.

The story just kind of petered out yesterday. Oh, well. Hope you enjoyed what we wrote Birthday Girl.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2003, 04:45:22 AM
BTW, George, nice picture. I only hope I look that good when I sleep.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Michael on November 04, 2003, 04:51:03 AM
Max Von Essen as Dorian a musical of The Portrait of Dorian Grey

Have a good day all

I was having such "sures" getting to the discussion board and then posting this pic
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Michael on November 04, 2003, 05:12:17 AM
As for Mr. Jerry Herman:

Marianne & I'll Be Here Tomorrow from The Grand Tour
Kiss Her Now & I Was Beautiful & I Don't Want to Know from Dear World
Time Heals Everything & I Won't Send Roses from Mack & Mabel

Just realized that the songs are all ballads and from his flops. As much as I enjoy his uptempo songs the above songs have more resonance for me.

I would have added Motherhood and Elegance from Hello, Dolly! but they were written by Bob Merrill.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jason on November 04, 2003, 05:42:24 AM
'Morning, all... I'm sorry I didn't post any more last night. I took my nap, like I planned to, but what I hadn't planned on was sleeping all the way through the night! I fell asleep around 4:30pm and I woke up this morning at 8:00! Wow! I feel rested, which is good, though I'm not sure that any amount of stretching will be sufficient. :)

Tom from Oz: I would hope that if Mssrs. Sondheim and Prince read yesterday's post that they would realize that my criticisms of BOUNCE were meant in the most earnest and honest way. I love 95% of their work individually, but BOUNCE was a mess and if I were to never be cast in one of their shows simply for saying so, well then...so be it, I guess. I wasn't a huge fan of PASSION the way it was originally done (even though I know Mr. Prince didn't direct it), but when I saw it with Judy Kuhn and Michael Cerveris, under a different director's hand, my mind was changed. Perhaps that would be the case with BOUNCE...I dunno.

Jerry Herman songs: "We Need A Little Christmas," "Put On Your Sunday Best," "Hello, Dolly," "Mame," "I Am What I Am," and "If He Walked Into My Life."
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Noel on November 04, 2003, 05:46:02 AM
Mark Steyn pointed out something about songs from musicals that I'm sure occurred to Jay and BK last night at Dear World.  The quality of the individual song is not nearly so important as how it works in the show.  So, Jerry Herman has done fine work on some flops, and, when you listen to the album, you think "How could this be a flop?"  When you see the show, you know.

Jerry Herman wrote the very first show I saw on Broadway, so, naturally, my favorite Herman songs all come from it.

My Best Girl
The Letter (in which Patrick grows up)
Gooch's Song

Also, I did The Madwoman of Chaillot in high school.  I was the garbageman, which isn't as small a part as it sounds.  I think some kids from Hami saw it, but did BK attend?  No, I don't think so.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Andrea on November 04, 2003, 05:57:20 AM
well good morning all (as I obsessively check hhw before my ten o'clock class).

Unfortunately, I have no idea who this Jerry herman gentleman is! However, you can be sure that Emily will have sent me the entire works by the end of the day.

Life has been fairly busy as I try to remember which paper is due next and glare enviously at DR Emily who just sits there calmly with her coffee and non-academic novel. Unfortunately CYGOPP and I had a little tiff about (of all things!) Scottish Country Dancing: I insisted he give it a try and he is been extremely stubborn. Final decision about the dancing comes in today.

Have any of you DR tried scottish country dancing? It's wonderful fun. You get to prance around a room doing set dances that leave you panting for air and laughing at the same time and you don't need any rhythm at all! What's not to love! All the men get dolled up in their kilts which is already a lovely sight to see!

And DR Jason: You are oh so very fortunate to have gotten that sleep!

Have a lovely day everyone!
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: td on November 04, 2003, 06:14:20 AM
Favorite Jerry Herman songs to start my day:

You, I Like
I'll Be Here Tomorrow
Shalom
Kiss Her Now
I Don't Want to Know
Look What Happened to Mabel
Just Leave Everything to Me
Love, Look in my Window
Love is Only Love
If He Walked into My Life
Song on the Sand
Where in the World is My Prince?
Loving You
Time Heals Everything
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: William E. Lurie on November 04, 2003, 06:16:35 AM
I like just about all Jerry Herman songs, even if the shows they come from are not always as good as the scores deserve.  I think the whole score to MILK AND HONEY is highly under-rated and I also feel Herman's contributions to A DAY IN HOLLYWOOD are far superior to the rest of the score.  That said, I still don't understand how a composer can take a song already used and recorded (PARADE's "Showtune") and pass it off as new for a Broadway musical (MAME's "It's Today").  The man is so talented couldn't he have written a new song?
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: William F. Orr on November 04, 2003, 06:20:18 AM
Update on the Unpleasant Business:

Over a week of notes and posts to catch up on.  Ay!

First, I want to thank all of y'all for the vibes, through e-mail, posts and via the ether.  They seem to be helping.

The trial is still not finished.  The investigating detective told me he's been at murder trials that didn't last this long.  Oh yes, I've been out in the hall, since witnesses are not supposed to see the trial, and I've been chatting with the arresting officer, the detectives--we've become great old friends, and they have nothing but sympathy for Joe.

Fortunately, Lord and Lady Macbeth have done exactly what we expected them to.  They've over-emoted, made up wild lies, and contradicted themselves and each other all over the place.  Plus admitting--voluntarilly--to child neglect.  I don't think the jury bought their story for a minute.

Both Prosecution and Defense have finished presenting their cases.  We have election day off--I'm at work doing some much-needed catch-up (I really mustard do it, but I don't relish it.)--and tomorrow will be the closing summations and the verdict.

So once again, I have some specific vibes to request, if you would be so good:

1.  Since one of the charges turns on a fine point of the law and should have been dropped in the first place--but the judge is closed-minded and adamant--I would request vibes to soften his mind and those of the jury on that point.

2.  And, of course, I request vibes leading toward the exoneration of the innocent, resulting in joy and jubilation all around (except at the MacB. estate), followed by "it cost over $ 20,000, but it was worth it."

3.  And a rousing chorus of "Move On".

Thank you all, and I hope to be back in the swim of things soon.

Love ya!
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Matthew on November 04, 2003, 07:11:39 AM
If you've all been following, I'm in the middle of production of "Jerry's Girs" (more on that later this week) and I enjoy EVERY song in that show and all the others that are not represented in "Jerry's Girls" - although, I'm not saying the "Jerry's Girls" is a good show, because in truth, the licensed version pretty much sucks, but we've made it work.  It's basically turned out to be a JH revue, which works wonderfully.  More on all that later (didn't I already say that?)  But if I had to pick a favorite JH song, I'd have to say that "I Never Said I Loved You" from "Dear World" is definately my favorite (and it's NOT in Jerry's Girls)  :(   I can be more passionate about all this, but I'm getting late for work.  More later.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Emily on November 04, 2003, 07:21:53 AM
Good morning everyone!!!

I woke up today to snow, sleet and rain.  All at the same time.  Ugh.  Pretty from indoors but Ugh.

Let's see how long it takes me using the bus to get to and from school today. ;)

Thank you everyone for the wonderful birthday wishes!  An espeically big MERCI to the BK-est of BKs for fufilling my wish of a HHW constructed epic.  It had it's funny moments despite its short length... :)

Yesterday I ate chicken and cake for dinner - as is the tradition in my family on my birthday.  St-Hubert-like (but better more localized version) chicken and German Chocolate Cake.  I LOVE coconut!  Have I ever mentioned that here?  I'm also continuing my kinda-but-not-quite-there Subway diet.  I will be eating my 4.9 grams of fat and 234 calories grilled chicken sandwich three times a week for lunch.

If it works for some loser like Jared - it can work for me!!!!

Jason: how goes the certain situation that I'm not allowed to mention by name?  Let's just say it starts with "M" and ends with "ice"

Andrea: CYGOPP should be HAPPY to go Scottish Country Anything with you.  Break out the guilt trip!

I don't really like Jerry Herman (or his songs tee hee) so I'm going to sit this one out.
 
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Emily on November 04, 2003, 07:22:43 AM
~~~~~~~~~~Vibes to WFo and Joe~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: William E. Lurie on November 04, 2003, 07:43:01 AM
Sorry about your bad weather Emily.  It's beautiful in NYC.  Yesterday set a record for 11/3 - 80!  Today is still nice, but it won't get that high.  It doesn't seem like Autumn.

After my post above, I realized that Jerry Herman is not the only composer to re-use a melody.  Jule Styne did it at least three times.  He took the song "I'm In Persuit of Happiness" that he and Leo Robbins wrote for the TV special RUGGLES OF RED GAP and gave it to Sondheim who wrote new lyrics to it - "You'll Never Get Away From Me" from GYPSY.  Sondheim claimed he did not know he was re-writting an already used melody or he would not have done it.  A few years later the Styne, Comden and Green "Call Me Savage" which Carol Burnett sang in FADE IN, FADE OUT was rewritten for Leslie Uggams, Marilyn Cooper and Barbara Sharma to sing as "Bubble, Bubble" in HALLALUJAH BABY by the same three writters.  Finally, when GENTLEMEN PREFER BLONDS was re-written as LORELI to accomodate an aging Miss Channing, the song "Sunshine" from the original was re-written as "Paris, Paris" for the rewrite, although it was cut on the road.

Rodgers & Hart's big hit "Blue Moon" went through three prior sets of lyrics before finding the ones that made it one of their biggest hits.  Two of them were never used, but Shirley Ross (in blackface) sang the original lyrics "The Bad In Every Man" in the film MANHATTAN MELODY.  One of the unused versions ("The Prayer") was supposed to be sung by Jean Harlow in the film HOLLYWOOD PARTY but it was never filmed.

And Frank Loesser re-wrote his "Three-Cornered Tune" as "Fugue For Tinhorns", both for GUYS AND DOLLS, although the unused version was not recorded until many years after the show's original production.

Does any DR know any other re-use of the same music with different lyrics?
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2003, 07:52:58 AM
I see by reading the Stats board that our latest member is Mr. Pogue!

One can never be too rich or too thin or have too many members, especially of the eriudite type represented by Mr. Charles Pogue.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2003, 07:58:55 AM
The weather has changed here in NY from beautiful, balmy 78 to grey, cloudy and possible rain. Oh, well, it is November after all.

Donald's radio show is good listenin' folks. If you haven't yet, then get in there and listen. Lots of new and interesting releases and for those of you in the Anthony Warlow fan club, you get to hear some of his new CD.

There is also an interesting show on BBC Radio 3 Stage and Screen this week. If you're interested in Mark Blitzstein at all (The Cradle Will Rock is probably his most well-known piece) you can listen to his story and his work at Stage and Screen. It will be up until next Monday at 11am EST.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2003, 07:59:04 AM
Yep, Irving Berlin rewrote "Smile and Show Your Dimple" and it became "Easter Parade."

Favorite Jerry Herman: On top without question: "I Don't Want to Know" from DEAR WORLD

Others I really like: "It Only Takes a Moment," "If He Walked into My Life," "I Won't Send Roses," "Lovin' You," and "Look Over There."
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2003, 08:00:01 AM
Oh, yes, besides the Karma, good vibes to WFO & Joe.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2003, 08:04:28 AM
Oh my!  This is just the BEST site ever!

Thanks DR Donna for the info and link about the new musical movie!

And thanks to a special DR for the links to the Lil Abner info and pictures!  

Oh my, I guess I am just a Jerry Herman fan for most everything he has written, but I will give some mention to a couple of songs:

If He Walked Into My Life and Before the Parade Passes By are a couple of crowd pleasers that are also very intensely personal songs for the character singing them - they work so well in their respective shows, and can also be enjoyed concert-wise!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2003, 08:04:49 AM
Hehehehe - I made my smilies "glow"!
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2003, 08:18:09 AM
Elyse Gardner is yesterday's USA TODAY thought there was much to like in Bounce - and that they had time to fix it before it comes in to New York.  ;D

So many HHW DRs needing good vibes:

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Here they come!

And here is your Allison Hayes picture of the day - from the cover of the October, 1954, issue of Tempo magazine.

Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2003, 08:18:29 AM
I've never seen DEAR WORLD staged, and come to think of it, I've never seen the film version of THE MADWOMAN OF CHAILLOT with Katharine Hepburn either, but I understand it's kind of dull. Not surprising that the musical version wouldn't be especially interesting either apart from that wonderful music.

Topic for a future day, bk: What classic films that you've heard others talk about for years have you not seen.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2003, 08:40:36 AM
Help...why would my Region One Criterion DVD of A Night to Remember suddenly start giving the "unable to read" or "no disk" message on my RCA DVD player?
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Donna on November 04, 2003, 08:47:47 AM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Good Morning Everybody![/move]

I posted this yesterday rather late, so I'm posting it again in case you didn't see it.  

A new movie has just been released called ANYTHING BUT LOVE[/b]. It's a musical and was filmed similar to the Technicolor films of the 1950's. It stars Isabel Rose, Andrew McCarthy and Alix Korey--with a special appearance by Eartha Kitt. The score is full of standards plus some new material by Steven Lutvak.

They don't have major distribution so they are relying on word-of-mouth and screenings at film festivals. There are several movie houses in the L.A. area  that will be showing it on November 14. There are screenings in other parts of the country too.

Here's a link to their website for all the info http://www.anythingbutlovemovie.com (http://www.anythingbutlovemovie.com).
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 08:54:34 AM
I love Jerry Herman, and I've often wondered how come books couldn't be written around his music!  "Mack and Mabel," for instance, plays so beautifully as an album...why couldn't the story be strengthened to support it?  

As for "Dear World," I've seen the Hepburn movie and it's a wild fantasy.  My problems with the score are that there are too many ballads (yes! too many) for story lines that weren't significant in the oriignal play.  In other words, they've created romances and made a big to-do over them that weren't part of the original work...and that's probably why they seem, to me, to be out of place and disjointed.  Still, I can think of few better songs than "The Tea Party" in Broadway musical history -- such fun, such creativity and wonderful musicality!

In "Mack and Mabel," it's "Time Heals Everything" that gets me emotionally....and "Tap Your Troubles Away" that lifts my spirits!

"La Cage..." is a unique musical.  "I Am What I Am" is one of the great numbers...usually Herman writes them for women and this was almost not an exception.  "Song on the Sand" is wistful and nearly like a "Swan song."  

And who'd have thought it pretty much WAS a swan song as we've gotten nothing remotely memorable out of Herman since this show was done (no, not even "Mrs. Santa Claus").  In fact, it seems the past 20 years have been used to celebrate the handful of scores Herman did write...and it seems he's content to rest and rest and rest again on his laurels.   ;D

Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 08:56:40 AM
JRand:  Something on the playing surface of the disk might cause such a reaction in a DVD player.

Also, dust on the lens of the DVD laser itself might cause it.

Then...there's the dreaded "rot" which plagued laserdiscs...and the bronzing which plagues CDs.  How does the disc look?

Can you try the DVD in a different player?

Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ann on November 04, 2003, 09:06:03 AM
Good morning all.
If I know any Herman songs, which I'm sure I do, I don't know he wrote them.  I'm terrible with info like that...ask DR Jed.  It is sunny and beautiful and COLD here in the Northwest.  I don't think we've gotten above 55 for the last three days, and doesn't look like today will be any different.  But at least it's pretty to look at...
Off to get my coffee before class.  They finally brought back Gingerbread lattes at Starbucks for the holiday season!  yay!  Yes, I am a dyed in the wool Seattle girl...can't start my day without my Starbucks stop.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Charles Pogue on November 04, 2003, 09:20:28 AM
Well...Finally made it in, after a lot of confusion.  I still can't get to the edit profile page to change this convoluted password to something I'll actually remember.  And it seems we've added a lot of new steps between reading and posting.  But Bruce tells me it's all working better, so I'll believe him.  Maybe I just have to get used to the new methods, but I am an old dog and I'm not much for learning new tricks, so my comfort zone has been somewhat disrupted.

I agree with Bruce about how people keep trying to bring back shows that they somehow thought the public wasn't ready for, when the case usually was they just had a stinking book or a score with only one or two good songs in it.  As my favourite Jerry Herman song is I WON'T SEND ROSES (and I am not, on the whole, a particularly big Jerry Herman fan) and I was always curious regards the film history of MACK & MABEL, I was  interested in finding out how a show that also starred Robert Preston and Bernadette Peters could fail.   About five/six years ago, I saw a revival of it in London's West End.  The book stank.  It was a very disappointing show.

Pogue, back from his various jaunts.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Donna on November 04, 2003, 09:28:20 AM
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I don't really know why they put on these "concert" presentations - this particular group carries scripts, wears semblances of costumes, has a few set pieces but it's neither fish nor fowl.

BK---Although concert versions are not complete and leave you (and me) unsatisfied, I do believe they serve a purpose...maybe more than one.

Many of these shows and their scores would be "lost" forever if they weren't resurrected now and then.

They serve to educate and expose younger (and older) audiences to shows they've never or wouldn't have an opportunity to see.

It gives performers a chance to "play" some of these roles that they'd otherwise never get to play in today's theater.

P.S. Your experience reminds me of mine when I've listened to Rod Stewart's current recordings of the Great American Songbook. Ugh...pablum for the masses. Like you said, "Neither fish nor fowl." His fans are going to listen to his versions and think what's so great about these songs or, worse yet, think these are the "definitive" versions. Oy!

For others who might be interested:
The particular group BK spoke of is The Musical Theatre Guild and is made up of a company of actors that have experience on Broadway. Reprise! is another similar group but over the years they have gone from carrying scripts to nearly full-fledged productions.

Both of these groups are West Coast based. Here are their websites:
http://www.musicaltheatreguild.com (http://www.musicaltheatreguild.com)
http://www.reprise.org (http://www.reprise.org)
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 09:33:30 AM
Pogue - since you were out of town for the changeover, the steps are simple:

Go to www.haineshisway.com as you always did - read the notes.  At the end of them click on the icon (Go to the Unseemly Discussion Board), once there click on Daily Discussions, then click on the top entry which will have the title of the current day's notes.  Voila.

Since your password got you into the site, all you have to do is click on the "Edit Profile" button at the bottom of the page.  That will bring up a new page where you can put in new info, including a new password.  Remember, and this is an annoying step but it must be done - once you enter your new password (and reenter it) then you must enter the password you were sent via e-mail ONE LAST TIME in the box provided.  Once you've done that and clicked "save" your new password will work and you will never again have to use your old one.  You can also check the box that says "stay logged in" or whatever it says, and then you will never have to log in again - it will "remember" you every time you come to the site.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2003, 09:36:45 AM
Weird....
thanks DR Ron - I cleaned the disk...and all other disks work fine....but this one gives me an "incompatible disk" error.  That is so strange.

I will try it on my sister's player later.  STRANGE
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Maya on November 04, 2003, 09:37:32 AM
Hello everyone!  I'm out of class and ready to start my REAL day.  

Sorry I was E&T yesterday evening.  What happened is Macbeth came over and we engaged in quite heated game of Trivial Pursuit.  However, we didn't finish the game--we're planning to today with very raised stakes. If I win, he has to wear a dress to rehearsal.  If he wins, I have to address his as "Your Majesty" for one whole rehearsal.  I'm in the lead as of now...I have 5 pies....please send me winning vibes because I have to win!!!

Favorite Herman songs (and there are a lot so I'll just list my very very favorites):

It's Today
Bosom Buddies
If He Walked Into My Life
Hello Dolly
Before the Parade Passes By
Wherever He Ain't
Look What Happened to Mabel
Time Heals Everything
I Won't Send Roses
I Am What I Am
Song on the Sand
I Don't Want to Know

BK--thanks for the Dear World report!  I'm sorry to hear that the book is so irredeemably awful.  I wonder if a really talented libretto writer got his hands on it though (someone like Terrence McNally maybe), it may be tolerable??

Ben--count me a member of the Anthony Warlow club now!  I hadn't heard him before but I recently heard him singing This is the Moment from the J&H concept album and it just floored me.  And I don't even like that song much!

Jason--I think we all appreciate your honestly regarding Bounce.  As much as I love and revere Sondheim as the genius he is, I sometimes think that this love blurs my objectivity.  So sometimes I'm able to overlook faults in his work that I would not in a lesser composer, you know what I mean?

Jrand--Is there anyway you could post the Elyse Gardner link?  Pweese!!!  ;D

Donna--thanks for the info on Anything But Love...I will definitely try to catch it.  I love Alix Corey...she's such an underrated performer.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Maya on November 04, 2003, 09:40:52 AM
Donna--there was recently a feature in Entertainment Weekly in which Michael Feinstein evaluated standards albums put out by pop/rock singers.  I don't have it on me, so I can't quote it, but he said that Rod Stewart sounded like he was singing karaoke on his album!
I've heard excerpts from it, and I can't say I entirely disagree....
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Donna on November 04, 2003, 09:50:48 AM
Jerry Herman
It's interesting about Jerry Herman's songs. After listening for awhile to some of the big, blockbuster songs (like Hello Dolly!), you get tired of them and tend to write them off. On the other hand, some of his "quieter" songs can stay with you. I've never seen a production of Dear World but, for the most part, I love the score--especially the ballads, they're so heartfelt.  

Some favorite Jerry Hermans ...
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Shalom...Before the Parade Passes By...So Long Dearie...Gooch's Song...If He Walked Into My Life...Dear World...I Don't Want to Know...And I Was Beautiful...Kiss Her Now...Garbage[/move]

Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Donna on November 04, 2003, 09:56:35 AM
Maya -- I agree with Michael Feinstein! The songs  all seem to be the same tempo and it sounds like he's being accompanied by a snythesizer (spell?).

Thanks for the reference. I'll have to find the article.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2003, 09:59:31 AM
DR Maya - it was in yesterday's USA TODAY, so today it is in the "pay" archives.  Check your newspaper recycle bins for Monday's Life Section.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jay on November 04, 2003, 10:06:34 AM
So many excellent songs by Mr. Herman have already been named, I'm not sure I can add to the list.

I must concur with Dear Reader Donna on the value of the work of groups like Musical Theatre Guild (and, I gather, Mufti, in New York.)  I think they perform an excellent service in doing live performances of works that have some interest for one reason or another but for which a full revival is highly unlikely.  True, some of the pieces Musical Theatre Guild has done are problematic, some are second drawer works from top drawer creative teams, some are excellent works that just never found an audience.  Without MTG, though, I would not have had the opportunity to see and hear works I'd never seen or heard before, like Dear World last night, or Floyd Collins or Parade, and so forth.  So I am very happy they exist, and even happier that they perform in my own backyard.  Remaining shows in the MTG season this year are Little Mary Sunshine, Lady in the Dark and I Can Get It For You Wholesale.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 10:08:03 AM
Jrand:  I'm assuming here that this disk has played well in the past???  Or is it new?

I'm sure Criterion stand behind their product...but if this disk played before and suddenly doesn't, it seems it was somehow damaged (bummer).
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Charles Pogue on November 04, 2003, 10:12:50 AM
Well, Bruce, you say it's easy, but everytime I click on edit profile (and it's been doing this since last night) two warning screed's come up saying something like WARNING: Cannot modify header information. with a bunch more stuff and code-like scrawls.  Then there is a blue box at the bottom of the page that announces ERROR: cannot modify header information and a whole bunch more jargon.  So the question is:  What am I doing wrong now?
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2003, 10:45:26 AM
BK, just to verify what Charles is saying, the profile doesn't seem to be working. It's most likely related to last night's crash. When you click on Profile, you get this.

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /domain/.local/haines/www/community/Sources/Profile.php:1) in /domain/.local/haines/www/community/Sources/Subs.php on line 224

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /domain/.local/haines/www/community/Sources/Profile.php:1) in /domain/.local/haines/www/community/Sources/Subs.php on line 225


I'll post this at the Tech board too, so Mark can see it.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 10:46:32 AM
It's not just you, Charles.  I read your post and tried to edit my own profile.  I get the same error message.

This may be a leftover from the hacker/interloper that took place yesterday afternoon.  Or it may be something completely different!
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2003, 10:48:56 AM
I posted a note on the tech board in the Welcome thread including the error message.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: MBarnum on November 04, 2003, 10:51:29 AM
JRand53, I had that problem with my BRAIN THAT WOULDN'T DIE dvd. It took several tries but eventually it worked. You may need to keep putting it in the player until if finally takes it.

Am home sick today. Had a sore throat all weekend, but thought it might be allergies. But today I am miserable...slept from 10pm last night to 10am tonight.
Am gonna curl up on the couch with my cat and finish watching TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD and then watch MEET ME IN ST LOUIS...two movies that, believe it or not, I have never seen before.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: MBarnum on November 04, 2003, 11:00:51 AM
Last night Ron P. posted "MBarnum:  Thanks for the info re: Gordon Mitchell.  Can you share more info on him?  Was he a bodybuilder?  Did he do other movies?  I know nothing about him, but I'm glad you got to know him."

Ron, he did indeed make more films. Gordon was a bodybuilder in Venice during the heyday of bodybuilding (1940s and 1950s). He can be seen as a guard in THE TEN COMMANDMENTS and in 1960 he went to Italy to star in THE GIANT OF METROPOLIS. He made many sword and sandal films in Europe and then movied onto other genres. In all he made over 200 films! I interviewed him for an article in FILMFAX magazine. He was a super nice guy and we stayed in touch up until his death in September.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2003, 11:07:27 AM
Yes it played fine before on my previous DVD player.  I will keep trying it.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2003, 11:08:14 AM
The lovely and lyrical LuLu has just joined our ranks as the latest member! Hoo and Ray. Welcome back to Miss LuLu.

See all the information you can glean by reading the Stats board. I know, I know, I'm a gerd or a neek. That's a cross between a geek and a nerd. I think it was S. Woody a few days ago who talked about the differences between the two. Since he and de Brucer are hotfooting it to the East Coast, I thought I would combine the two and get a whole new breed of character.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: William E. Lurie on November 04, 2003, 11:14:50 AM
Another error I just encountered...

After writing and editing my post I clicked the "Post" button and got an error message.  Since there were three new messages poste while I was trying to  writing my message is it possible that I clicked the button at the exact same time as someone else --- or maybe a second later --- and mine got lost.  Can something be done to prevent this?
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 11:18:48 AM
I don't get an "error" message when I click edit profile.  Try clearing your cache and doing it again.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: William E. Lurie on November 04, 2003, 11:22:35 AM
I'll try again.  From now on I'll do a Control C so if the Post doesn't work (like before) I won't have to type it all again.

According to Jerry Herman's autobiography SHOWTUNE which was published a few years ago, the reason he has not written a new show since LA CAGE is that he had not found a property that he would be willing to spend at least two years with from start to Broadway opening.  Meanwhile the just published book of his lyrics said that after LA CAGE he decided he had nothing more to prove.  Which ever is correct, his shows will be missed by those of us who love a good old fashioned musical comedy.  At least there seems to be a new revue of his songs every few years to remind us of what we are missing.

On a different topic, URINETOWN is closing in January rather than look for another theatre since the one they are in is being torn down.  Still the show will have had a Broadway run of almost 1,000 performance which is quite a feat for a show of this type.  I'll probably see it again before it closes to check out the mostly new cast.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2003, 11:24:30 AM
Regarding the Profile error, I cleared my cache, even to the point of deleting the HHW cookie and closed my browser completely. I opened up, logged back into HHW and I still get the error message when I click on Edit Profile or when I try to read someone elses profile.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jay on November 04, 2003, 11:31:14 AM
Periodically I read that Miss Spectacular is being readied for a Las Vegas production.  This would qualify as a new Jerry Herman musical.  A concept recording of the score is available, and it includes a song that is making its way around the cabaret and concert circuit:  Where In the World Is My Prince?
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ben on November 04, 2003, 11:34:32 AM
Jay, you're a full member! Hoo and Ray.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jay on November 04, 2003, 11:36:59 AM
Aww, shucks.  Thanks for noticing.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2003, 11:48:18 AM
MBarnum, sorry about your friend.    Hope you feel better tomorrow.

 

George, what was the time frame between your before photo and your after photo?  I’m guessing the after photo is the clear one.

 

WFO, definitely good vibes on all three counts.  Unfortunately I know too well how it feels to be the object of dreadful lies and the need to “move on”.  I’ll be thinking of you.

 

Charles Pogue, my comfort zone has also been disrupted.  It’s taking me forever to read the postings.  I’m lucky I have Keith to handle the technical difficulties for me.  Thanks to him I finally have a picture, even if it needs to be improved on.


Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2003, 11:57:18 AM
Instead of post, I clicked on reset form and everything disappeared.  What is reset form for?
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jennifer on November 04, 2003, 12:03:19 PM
Hey good afternoon all!

What lovely weather we have here today (do you like it DRs Andrea and Emily?)

:)
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Maya on November 04, 2003, 12:04:28 PM
Jrand--thanks, I'm sure I'll be able to find a copy somewhere!  So far, the Bounce review I agree with most is Linda Winer's---mixed, but not as much of a pan as some of the others.

WB to DRs Charles Pogue and Lulu![move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%][/move]


Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jay on November 04, 2003, 12:04:37 PM
Umm, "RESET FORM" is used to clear the box in which one types the message.  As you learned, Dear Reader Jane, the hard way.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 12:19:24 PM
Reset form means you nuke what you have and start over, so don't press that Unseemly thing.  Mr. Mark Bakalor is checking on the Edit Profile function.  Jane and Pogue, once you spend a few days, it will get easy and you'll enjoy it.  There are all sorts of fun things we could never do the other way - photos, attachments, easy links, etc.  No one is more resistant than I, but I'm really enjoying it.  
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Joy on November 04, 2003, 12:32:36 PM
(http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/verkleidung/costumed-smiley-063.gif)
Hello, hello!

Jerry Herman:
It Only Takes a Moment
I Won't Send Roses (which my husband sang to me in the early stages of our relationship, after buying me roses)
Before the Parade Passes By
Put on Your Sunday Clothes

I'm not generally a huge Jerry H. fan, but those are particular favorites.  I loved singing "Sunday Clothes" when I was in Hello Dolly in summer stock, long ago.  I played Ernestina Money.  I was a young student then and we thought it was fun to play games on stage when we were bored, so every night a cast member would challenge me to sing "Sweet Rosie O'Grady" in a particular style (e.g., Ethel Merman, Cher, etc.).  Eventually the Stage Manager decided she'd had enough and ordered us to cease and desist.

Anyone else care to confess unruly games played onstage?  A friend of mine reports that he once caught a Les Miz cast playing Stage Tag.  
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jed on November 04, 2003, 12:33:45 PM
My goodness, it really does take some time to catch up when you go E&T around here these days!  I spent a wonderful Friday through Sunday in Seattle seeing some friends I hadn't seen in quite awhile, spent yesterday's online time before rehearsal catching up on those days notes and posts, and only now finally have a chance to be up to date and posting!

Jerry Herman:  I'm not a big fan, truth be told.  His stuff usually just fails to grab me.  However, I do love Time Heals Everything.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2003, 12:34:26 PM
Jane = reset  form clears everything so you can start all over....
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2003, 12:35:09 PM
LULU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2003, 12:54:17 PM
Jay, LOL.  Fortunately I didn’t loose much.  I was just checking to see what the button did.

I was about to ask “where is everyone” when I came up with the brilliant idea to look for page three.  Now I know we don’t automatically continue on the next page.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2003, 12:57:56 PM
I should have said continue to, or on to the next page.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jane on November 04, 2003, 12:58:53 PM
I need to continue these little posts so I won’t be a newbie anymore.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2003, 01:06:10 PM
Priorities: Amazingly supportive vibes and all vibes appropriate are being sent to Bill & Joe.
WEL: Thanks for the informative posts today. Indeed that is the sort of information I really relish at HHW.
TCB: Where are you?
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Andrea on November 04, 2003, 01:07:04 PM
Update on the Unpleasant Business:

So once again, I have some specific vibes to request, if you would be so good:

1.  Since one of the charges turns on a fine point of the law and should have been dropped in the first place--but the judge is closed-minded and adamant--I would request vibes to soften his mind and those of the jury on that point.

2.  And, of course, I request vibes leading toward the exoneration of the innocent, resulting in joy and jubilation all around (except at the MacB. estate), followed by "it cost over $ 20,000, but it was worth it."

3.  And a rousing chorus of "Move On".



~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ VIBES ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

However, if you could give me a name and address, I'd be happy to send over a friend to have a little chat ;)

Kisses!
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Andrea on November 04, 2003, 01:20:11 PM
Hey good afternoon all!

What lovely weather we have here today (do you like it DRs Andrea and Emily?)

:)
Bah.... if swishy sarah comes on complaining about her heat wave........
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 01:21:45 PM
Jane, if you haven't discovered the "new" button you must try it.  It will take you directly to the last post you read.  It's marvy.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Andrea on November 04, 2003, 01:22:28 PM
Let's see... I really want to be a jr. member so I can be a karma fairy to everyone! so... I may be doing little, tiny posts.

Today I just found out that I got my 100$ rebate for my cell phone. That means I don't have to pay for the next three months. Yeah!
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 01:35:32 PM
Oh, good.  The cinemascope effect is gone.

Wow!  It was really WIDE!
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: MrMarkBakalor on November 04, 2003, 01:37:50 PM
Andrea had typed a considerable amount of ~'s without any spaces so that pushed everything to the right on the page. I edited her post and now all should be well.

In addition, the edit profile bug has been fixed and all should be working smoothly.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: td on November 04, 2003, 01:37:52 PM





[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]~ ~ ~ ~ GOOD VIBES  ~ ~ ~ GOOD VIBES  ~ ~ ~ GOOD VIBES  ~ ~ ~[/move]
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 01:41:14 PM

Am gonna curl up on the couch with my cat and finish watching TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD and then watch MEET ME IN ST LOUIS...two movies that, believe it or not, I have never seen before.

Even though there's no proof, I'm going to take credit for "the power of suggestion" of these two films as I recommended both of them for Halloween viewing and even posted photos!

 ;D

Feel better soon.  I recommend coffee and Harvey's Bristol Creme for a nice pick-me-up/slap-me-down-so-I-can-sleep "placebo."
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Andrea on November 04, 2003, 01:41:27 PM
Andrea had typed a considerable amount of ~'s without any spaces so that pushed everything to the right on the page. I edited her post and now all should be well.

In addition, the edit profile bug has been fixed and all should be working smoothly.

oops :(

sorry about that. Now I know.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 01:45:11 PM
Andrea had typed a considerable amount of ~'s without any spaces so that pushed everything to the right on the page. I edited her post and now all should be well.

In addition, the edit profile bug has been fixed and all should be working smoothly.


[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%][size=8]Gosh!  You're GOOD![/size][/move]
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: SwishySarah on November 04, 2003, 01:45:50 PM
I have just returned from a busy morning. I went to my new place of employment to chat with my new boss, but he was in a mad rush hurry, and merely said "Drop by on Thursday to check it out, it was really nice to meet you." and dashed away. Later, my brother dropped me off at school, and I rehearsed for about an hour with my choir teacher for my All-District Chorus audition. When everyone else arrived, we drove over to another local HS and waited. And waited. And waited. And then, 2 hours later, I auditioned. And then I waited some more while everyone ELSE auditioned.

The audition itself went really well, the accompaniment was a little fast, but I evened out with her after a few measures. (Laura II, Mrs. Cratch was my accompianist! She gave me a big thumbs up, so I think she recognized me.) I got all of the dynamics and notes, even the "sfz" high A! And the sightreading was an exercize that we had done in class before, so that went really well too. I'll get my score tomorrow morning, so wish me luck!

I don't know from this Herman guy, but I'm learning as the posts go on. You people are so informative!

~~~~~~~Super-vibeage to WFO and his Joe during their ordeal!~~~~~~~
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 01:48:54 PM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]That's our SarahSongbird!           That's our SarahSongbird           That's our SarahSongbird![/move]
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2003, 01:54:09 PM
Just caught up with the Comments by Maya and Donna re Michael Feinstein. No-one is alone. I really thought that I was missing out on something that i could not "Get". Now to wait for Thurday night and point François to those comments. Thanks ladies - you have made my day.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2003, 01:58:14 PM
DR JRand, I would buy one of those commercial lens cleaners for CD/DVD players. They don't cost much, but they do prevent the laser lens from getting built up with dust and dirt thus preventing it from reading the discs adequately.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jrand73 on November 04, 2003, 02:08:58 PM
Will try that....this DVD player is only about 4 months old.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2003, 02:11:40 PM
Sorry you have felt under the weather today, DR MBarnum. Hope you feel better soon.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Joy on November 04, 2003, 02:23:17 PM
WEL
Stop worrying where you're going,
Move on
If you can know where you're going
You've gone
Just
Keep moving on

I chose and my world was shaken,
So what?
The choice may have been mistaken,
The choosing was not
You have to move on.

*My favorite verse*
Stop worrying if your vision is new
Let others make that decision;
They usually do
You
Keep moving on.

Anything you do, let it come from you
Then it will be new
Give us more to see.



So there you go, in no particular order.  Good vibes to everyone who needs them.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 02:37:59 PM
As Mr. Mark Bakalor said, the Edit Profile feature is fixed (although, funnily, I had no problem with it) so hopefully dear reader Pogue can go in and change his password now.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2003, 02:39:40 PM
So, was it election day where you folks live? We had a mayoral election as well as county commissioners and school board. I set out about 2 p.m. to do my civic duty. I was the only one voting when I got there. I have a feeling we had a small turnout.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 02:49:17 PM
"Wicked" cast recording, song list, pre-order at discount:

http://www.musicalschwartz.com/wicked-music.htm

A very good place to visit!!
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: SwishySarah on November 04, 2003, 02:55:55 PM
It was indeed election day, because after being dropped off at my school, I had to walk down a path to get to the door. The voters were being directed towards the band room, which is next to the choir room. There weren't many people there to vote when I arrived, and half of the officials running for office asked me to vote for them on my way into the school. They immediately grimaced when I went in the other door.

MBarnum: I hope you feel better!

Emily: How was your birthday?

I just recieved TWO emails from Den Mother Susan! I missed her.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 03:09:11 PM
Memories....

(http://www.rationalmagic.com/Bursting/MackMabel.jpg)
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Michael on November 04, 2003, 03:21:56 PM
Good vibes

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Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Noel on November 04, 2003, 03:22:47 PM
Wednesday night, Dear Wife Joy and I are performing in a benefit for Artistic New Directions at the Laurie Beechman Theatre on 42nd Street.

Let's see if I can figure out how to post a link:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sweet-gang/message/1183 (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sweet-gang/message/1183)

We'll do How Could They Have Missed from Our Wedding - The Musical and a duet I wrote about smilies and other web stuff.  Joy will do I Can Do This from Finding Joy and that alone is worth the $25
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 03:22:54 PM
So, was it election day where you folks live? We had a mayoral election as well as county commissioners and school board. I set out about 2 p.m. to do my civic duty. I was the only one voting when I got there. I have a feeling we had a small turnout.

Oh, well.  Size isn't everything!

 ;D
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 03:42:07 PM
I guess our glory days iz behind us.  However, we'll still make 100 count them 100 posts and that is a good thing, oh, yes, that is a good thing.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Emily on November 04, 2003, 03:49:08 PM
Swishy - My birthday was ab fab!  Full of chicken and cake and new blue sweaters!  :)

Andrea - you're one post away from being able to give karma.  Get cracking my dear!

BK - re: "small" number of posts, just wait until essay writing season is over... then I (and many other Hainsies and Kimlets) will be posting up a storm!  Watch out 500 post mark! :)
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 03:58:00 PM
But you can write your essays right here!  I didn't know this was essay season.  

Jeans, plaid shirt, sneakers.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 04:02:47 PM
In fact, let's all write essays.  I'll start:

This is an essay about phlegm.  Where does phlegm come from and why must it be part of our daily lives?  The phlegm factor is very annoying - people from all over the world do not like phlegm and yet they must deal with phlegm because it is part of our daily lives.  Let those without phlegm step forward.  Be proud, phlegmless people.  Stand tall and breathe easy.  What good uses are there for phlegm.  Can one grow plants with phlegm?  Can one season their dumplings with phlegm?  Can one use phlegm to propagate?  Can phlegm cure a broken toenail?  These are the eternel questions regarding phlegm.  
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Laura II on November 04, 2003, 04:03:03 PM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]GOOD VIBES GALORE TO EVERYONE!!![/move]

Swishy--You had Mrs. Cratch? heeheehee I'll always remember her first rendition of "Father William." Congrats on a rockin audition! Oh, btw, I saw your boss fire someone last week. (I think it's the same guy.) I felt bad for her, but I'm glad you have the job! :)

Jerry Herman songs:
It Only Takes a Moment
Ribbons Down My Back
My Best Girl

I voted for the first time today! It was a delegate election. Oh and boy was it warm here. I really wish it would cool off and feel like fall.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 04:05:28 PM
I am waiting for some essays.  
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 04:07:23 PM
I don't know why, but it smells like cigarette smoke around these parts, even though we are in a non-smoking office.  It smells like cigarettes and that causes me to have allergies.  It is curious.  Perhaps I'll write an essay about it.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Michael on November 04, 2003, 04:10:46 PM
Mr. Jerry Herman
(http://www.hhtco.org/images/cast_jerry_herman.jpg)

Mr. Jerry Herman recorded music and lyrics

(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J902.jpg)
(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J749.jpg)
(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J1505.jpg)
(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J78.jpg)
(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J711.jpg)
(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J273.jpg)
(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J696.jpg)
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000000PEX.01._PE_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J331.jpg)
(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J271.jpg)
(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J155.jpg)
(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J570.jpg)
(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J2614.jpg)
(http://www.castalbumdb.com/jpg/J3749.jpg)
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000000T5Q.01._PE_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004NRT7.01._PE_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00007KFQP.01._PE10_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

and two solo albums dedicated to his songs
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000005J22.01._PE_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000014W6.01._PE_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
(This was produced by Bruce Kimmel)

and his memoirs
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1556115024.01._PE_PI_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

and the book of his lyrics
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0415967686.01._PE30_PI_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Jason on November 04, 2003, 04:11:28 PM
Back from work... I'm enjoying a perfectly wonderful meal of McDonald's chicken strips and catching up on everyone's loverly posts.

~~~~~Good Vibes to WFO and Joe~~~~~ I hope all of this unpleasantness ends soon and to your benefit.

Anyone have any thoughts on NetFlix? I'm considering signing up for it. Discuss....
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Maya on November 04, 2003, 04:16:17 PM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Good late afternoon/evening DRs!![/move]

I am here at work...thankfully no essays to write right now.  Although next week I have to write a paper about Thoreau.  So let me try warming up with a mock essay.

I thoroughly do not like writing about Thoreau.  I would rather sort through socks in my bureau.  I'm sure Walden is all well and good, but I would prefer not to.  See, that's from Bartelby the Scrivener.  He always preferred not to.  This American Lit class is getting to my head--I would like to be through with Thoreau.

That's my essay, BK, do you like it???  ;)

Swishy--congrats on the kick-arse audition!  I will be auditioning for JMU's musical theatre program in a few weeks, so I'm getting into that audition mentality myself.  Very nerve-wracking.

Ron--did you actually see Mack and Mabel???  If you did, I am already jealous!!  I love that score sooo much...I don't care if the book stinks.

I'm wearing jeans and my Producers t-shirt.
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: Maya on November 04, 2003, 04:20:26 PM
Jason--I don't have any personal experience with Netflix although I do have friends who are quite happy with it.  At 20 bucks or so a month, how can you go wrong??
Title: Re:SO THAT WAS GOOD
Post by: SwishySarah on November 04, 2003, 04:25:04 PM
Swishy's Essay on Cigarettes

    A poll taken by a mass of high school students resulted in the following: 6 out of 7 students believe that smoking cigarettes is stupid. If the majority of kids today can understand this simple fact, why does this problem still plague our world? Cigarettes contain some of the most dangerous and vile things you could think of, yet thousands of packs are sold every day. Here is an in depth look at this unfortunate disease.
    Cigarettes contain some of the same ingredients used in rat poisons. Ingredients that are used to kill something. Would you drink/eat rat poison voluntarily? On average, (I hope) people don't tend to do this. But smokers might as well, for every day they consume a number of dangerous things that will one day lead to their death. Another part of a cigarette is tar. Tar is more popular for its main purpose of making roads. Would you take a bite out of the street next time you walk on it? Knowing the amount of chemicals you would be consuming, a normal answer would be no.
    A more serious issue with smoking cigarettes is the smoke factor. Cigarette smoke contains harsh chemicals that can kill a person. I, for one, am allergic to said smoke, and cannot be around it for a long period of time without breaking into fits of coughs. Secondhand smoke kills just as many people as actually smoking the cigarette does. The inhalation of these chemicals can lead to heart, lung, tongue, throat, gum, and liver diseases and cancers. Is it really worth risking your LIFE to get that dosage of nicotine?
    The FDA requires that all advertisments for nicotine products come with a label that indicates the dangers of inhaling the toxic fumes. One can only hope that someday, someone will take those small labels seriously, and will save their own life, plus the numerous others that they will encounter over the years.

For more information on the dangers of smoking cigarettes, please visit www.thetruth.com
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Post by: SwishySarah on November 04, 2003, 04:29:16 PM
BOOYA! That took 5 minutes flat, with corrections. Mr. Richards Honors WH I class whipped me into shape. 5 essays a week? I can do that.

Jeans, maroon teeshirt with palm trees and stripes across the top, chucks.
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Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 04:30:57 PM
Lovely essays, Maya and Swishy.  Maya, I saw Mack and Mabel here in LA, where it premiered at the Music Center, with Bernadette and Robert Preston.   One wanted to love it but sadly the book stank to high hell (this has always been the problem with the show) and you just didn't care about anyone in the show.  The staging by Mr. Gower Champion was inventive, as always, and the score was pleasing.  And the actors worked very hard, but if it isn't on the page it isn't on the stage, as they say.
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Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 04:32:20 PM
MDS: I think that's a few too many images for one post - it seems to be slowing people's access time down.  If anyone is really having probs, please post and I'll remove the post and ask MDS to do a few posts with one or two images.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 04:36:23 PM
I like the essay, Sarah.

But I want to see an essay on why boys wear their pants so low that their belts -- when they wear them -- are wrapped around their butt cheeks and the seat of their pants just flop around like some sack of potatoes.  And I want to know how the boys who don't wear belts keep those pants from just falling down to their knees. And I not only want to know why they wear them that way -- as they have been doing -- copycatting each other, all -- for the past 15 years, but I want to know what girls think of this.
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Post by: SwishySarah on November 04, 2003, 04:44:20 PM
Ron: That trend started in prison, when the inmates would wear their pants baggy to cover the various illegal objects they were hiding. Someone must have thought it was cool, because it's caught on. But, it has definetly died down in popularity in the past few years, although not completely. Most guys don't wear them like that, at least the cool ones. It's generally reserved for rappers and white-guy-wannabes.

Most girls think it's stupid, unoriginal, and overused. Give me cleancut anyday.

And sue JNCO for their neverending line of HUMONGOUS and ugly guys jeans.

BK: Glad you liked it.

Laura/Maya/Ron: Thanks for your kudos re- the audition! I'm actually more nervous about the results than I was about the audition!

Laura: You gave me my laugh of the day remembering Mr.s Cratch's "Father William"! She's such a nice old potato, though ;).
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Post by: Matthew on November 04, 2003, 05:02:35 PM
I've never liked essays, therefore, I won't write one.  I guess it's scary just how much I am a Jerry Herman fan because out of all the images of MDS's post, I own all but one (Ben Franklin in Paris).  To be really honest, when I'm down, all it takes is just one Jerry Herman overture to lift my spirits, or one Jerry Herman ballad to actually find a reason for tears, or a Jerry Herman march to just realize how short life really is and to live it to the fullest.  I once said that I would actually weap when the world lose's Jerry.  I know that's weird, but some people just have that affect.  Just like when I listen to Karen Carpenter sing, I always wonder what she would be doing if she was still living.  Would she have done Broadway?  A National Tour of a Barry and Fran Weisler production?  Or perhaps she would be sitting down and headlining in Vegas like Celine Dion.  Perhaps the Vegas people would build her her own colessum like they did for Celine.  Or maybe she would be a big part of Jerry Herman's new "Miss Spectacular".  The fact is that Jerry is still with us and Karen is not.  Damn, time for more Jerry Herman to get out of this slump I've put myself in,   Do you know there a signature waltz and march in each Jerry Herman show?  I wonder if Karen ever recorded any Jerry Herman?  Oh my, was that sort of an essay?  
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Post by: Jed on November 04, 2003, 05:05:34 PM
So, was it election day where you folks live? We had a mayoral election as well as county commissioners and school board. I set out about 2 p.m. to do my civic duty. I was the only one voting when I got there. I have a feeling we had a small turnout.

Indeed it is, Matt H., and I was pleasantly surprised to see a decent number of people at my polling location when I went at about 3pm.
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Post by: Jane on November 04, 2003, 05:13:54 PM
Ron, I feel fine but think I shall treat myself to some Harvey’s Bristol Creme anyway.  Actually I was thinking of it on my way home, prior to reading your post.

MDS, nice tribute to Jerry Herman
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Post by: Maya on November 04, 2003, 05:15:13 PM
BK--thanks, glad you liked the really impromptu mini-essay!  Seeing Mack and Mabel with Preston and Peters still must have been quite something!  There needs to be some kind of law that shows with great scores can NOT have lousy books.  It's too tragic when that happens.

Swishy--you're welcome, dahling!  Did you really write that essay in 5 minutes?  That is pretty incredible!  Now what is this bull you've been telling us about you not being a good writer??  ;)

I do not know if boys in low pants down to their knees with their boxers hanging out, or girls with low rider jeans with their thongs sticking out, is more unattractive.

Whatever happened to class???  ::)
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Post by: Danise on November 04, 2003, 05:32:37 PM
Evening all!  I gave a karma to MDS because even though I read the Notes, I STILL would have been in the dark regarding Mr. Herman.  

Seeing the pictures made me realize I do know some of his work.  Sorry but I'm really bad with names/faces etc.  You have to REALLY make an impression for me to remember you or you name has to be Michael.  That makes my life so much more easier.  Then all I have add is the Mr. A, Mr. B or Mr C.  I don’t know the vampire guy from Port Charles last name.  I just know he’s a Michael too.  Hey, that works for me.

Voices--especially male voices are what draw me.  I may not remember the name but you can dress him up as anything you please, have him speak ONE word and I’ll know EXACTLY who he is. Won’t be able to tell you his name but I’ll know him as (for example) G’kar the lizard man (as my Mom calls him) from B-5 or Spock’s father or what ever.

I don’t get the hanging pants either.  Saw a young man on the bus a few weeks back that had to hold them up with a hand or they would have been around his ankles.  I wanted to say there a cure for that–it’s called a BELT.  But I didn’t want to start anything.

I do, however, now  know what a bling bling is.  

Oh and I do want to share one small thing I forgot to say the other night.   I know I’ve said before how bad my sight is and how I like natural cures–herbs and such.  Well a friend of mine told me about flax seed oil and how good it is for your eyes–especially people who wear contacts.  I’m already taking bilberry (which has helped some) but thought I’d give it a go.

To make a long story short, remember when I said I was going to go get pizza but got Chinese instead?  Well, I didn’t take my reading glasses with me because I thought I wouldn’t need them.  I’ve done that before and had to have the order person read the menu to me because I can NOT see it–it’s all a blur.  Not so this time.  I’m not saying it was crystal clear but I was able to read the menu without glasses!  I can only guess the flax seed oil is working!

Does that count as an essay?  

D
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Post by: Emily on November 04, 2003, 05:39:57 PM
BK and DRs:

I'd let you read my Madly Mahdi paper - but quite frankly it bores me... and I wrote it!

I don't want all you to want to have to stab yourselves in your eyeballs out of Mahdi-induced boredom.  Believe me.  I've thought about it while procrastinating.

Have I mentioned how awful Canadian winters are?  They are almost as awful as Americans who gloat about their heat waves in November (this means YOU Laura II!!! :) )
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Post by: George on November 04, 2003, 05:44:08 PM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Strongest and Most Potent Vibes to WFO and Joe!![/move]

Just a few of my most favorite Jerry Herman songs:

I Am What I Am

Kiss Her Now

Look What Happened to Mabel

More and More/Less and Less
-- from The Grand Tour (I got the CD through my library's Interlibrary Loan department and made myself a copy).  I've had this song going through my head for the last two days!  I like it so I don't really mind too much.

Song on the Sand

The Tea Party

Time Heals Everything

Wherever He Ain't
-- I love the trio arrangement by Donald Pippin from the DVD Jerry Herman's Broadway at the Hollywood Bowl sung by Florence Lacey, Lorna Luft and Karen Morrow.  I made a double CD of the audio portion of this DVD and the sound is really good.  I think that it's good enough to be released as a CD on its own!  Click on this link to see the picture of the DVD -
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6304558139.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

World Take Me Back
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Post by: Jed on November 04, 2003, 05:48:28 PM
If I know any Herman songs, which I'm sure I do, I don't know he wrote them.  I'm terrible with info like that...ask DR Jed.  

Yes, yes she really is. :D
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Post by: William E. Lurie on November 04, 2003, 06:21:24 PM
Joy---
Thank you for quoting Sondheim to me, but what are you trying to tell me?  That I should move on from this here site?  I've been here from the beginning and nothing is going to keep me away.
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Post by: Laura II on November 04, 2003, 06:47:18 PM
Emily: I wondered what you would think of my weather comment! I'm sorry!  :)

RE essays:
I could bore you all to tears with my ten page essay on Hamlet, but I'll spare you. (Although I must say that as much as almost everyone in my AP English class last year would hate to admit it, studying Hamlet for three months was worth it!) I therefore choose to leave you with an essay an acquaintance showed me last night. I find it quite funny. It also could serve to deter students from getting drunk, except I suppose some would be determined to outdo this person's work. I'm sorry if anyone finds anything in this essay offensive. As I said before, I'm only linking it here for everyone's amusement.

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/rturpyn/essay.htm (http://filebox.vt.edu/users/rturpyn/essay.htm)
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Post by: Laura II on November 04, 2003, 06:49:09 PM
Sarah: Glad I could make you laugh today! :)
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Post by: Laura II on November 04, 2003, 07:00:53 PM
:(

I just received an email from Sarah. In it, she said that her dad is no longer going to look the other way, so she will not be able to sneak into HHW anymore. She'll try to get on during lunches and other breaks, but she can't guarantee that.  She's praying that she'll get a B in algebra, and she will be very upset if that doesn't happen. She really wants to be able to come back.

You can email her at Sarah@DavisHome.us
Now let's send her some happy, good luck vibes!

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]~~~~~~~~~Good vibes to my little Sawah sis! Hope we have her back soon!~~~~~~~~~[/move]
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Post by: Emily on November 04, 2003, 07:48:32 PM
49 minutes without a post?  how unseemly :(
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Post by: Noel on November 04, 2003, 08:26:06 PM
I think the wife got her Williams confused.

As Rodgers and Hart wrote of my alma mater,
Williamstown belongs to Williams
Princeton keeps its tigers at bay
But old New York won't let the world forget
That there's a college on Broadway

(and it's celebrating its 250th birthday this year)
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Post by: Jay on November 04, 2003, 08:33:40 PM
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Go Lions![/move]
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Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2003, 08:34:59 PM
I loved DR MDS's visual essay on the professional career of Jerry Herman. Of course, he didn't write the entire scores to some of those shows, but we know about the ones where he had contributors or where he himself was a contributor to someone else's score.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 04, 2003, 08:40:44 PM
There was much I loved about teaching all the years I taught, but I have to admit that the thing I despised the most during my final years especially was reading and correcting essays. Funny, I didn't mind reading and correcting answers to discussion questions on my tests, but compositions and essays were for some reason another kettle of fish. I am VERY glad those days are over.
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Post by: Ann on November 04, 2003, 08:44:29 PM
Good evening all.  I just got back from a gig with my acappella jazz group.  The president of the college invited us to sing for a fancy shindig he was having at the college, so we did.  It was a typical Jukebox Gig...but kind of a pain, 'cause the guests were getting a bit sloshed on the complimentary drinks and were so loud that it was really hard to hear each other, and if you've ever sang acappella group stuff, you know how hard it is to tune when you can't hear the other parts.  But the blue-hairs thought we were wonderful, and hopefully they'll be happy to shell out the bucks to support us.  Plus we got to partake of the yummy catered food.  Coconut breaded shrimp...mmm...so good
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Post by: Ann on November 04, 2003, 08:46:19 PM
Hey, I'm really close to becoming a Jr. Member :)
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2003, 08:57:58 PM
We're in Roanoke VA tonight, and will get home to Rehoboth Beach tomorrow.  That's the good news.

The bad news is that there's no phone connection at the house yet.  Der Brucer's daughter thinks all anyone needs is a cell phone to do everything, and that no one needs an internet connection.  She doesn't use one, after all.  She just spends her entire life on her cell phone, talking.  Not listening, too complicated.  That der Brucer is going to be flying back to Long Beach for a couple of weeks, and that we do all our long distance communication via e-mail doesn't make sense to her.

It also won't make sense to her that der Brucer bought a quilt wall hanging titled "Spiders in the Outhouse," simply because it's so imaginative and pretty.  

In any case, I'll be back with everyone as soon as we can get the phone connection into the new house.  It just might take a little time.  *sigh*

Best to all - S. Woody White

PS - How does the title "Driving Towards Orion" sound?
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 04, 2003, 09:06:44 PM
Oh, before I forget, there's really really really bad news.

Dolly Parton is evil.

 :P

(How's that for a teaser?)
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Post by: Jed on November 04, 2003, 09:27:16 PM
Oh, before I forget, there's really really really bad news.

Dolly Parton is evil.
 :P
(How's that for a teaser?)

A DDDevil, eh?
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2003, 10:20:39 PM
Well hello Tommy (TCB) promise you'll never go away again.
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2003, 10:35:59 PM
Well he was with us briefly. About time for a new computer TCB. Fagin would find a way to make some cash.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 04, 2003, 10:37:08 PM
Joy---
Thank you for quoting Sondheim to me, but what are you trying to tell me?  That I should move on from this here site?  I've been here from the beginning and nothing is going to keep me away.

I think Joy's error was in mistaking you for someone who had asked for good vibes.  That would have been William Orr.

I'm sure she'll be shocked that you found it to hold a negative message!

Still, I'm sure no one thought much about the faux pas, since many of us understood her intent from having read the posts of the past few days concerning Mr. Orr's current ordeal.

 
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Post by: bk on November 04, 2003, 10:43:50 PM
Back from seeing the Elaine May one-acts.  A bit barren around these here parts, isn't it?

Well, I suppose we could have a late-night rally.
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2003, 10:58:39 PM
Barren? Given my preferences I've never considered the issue. I am not sure that I am likely to have a late night rally to check out my fertility.
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 04, 2003, 11:03:12 PM
Change of subject. We are listening to the new Babs album. I quite like it. At least the overblown productions of David Foster are missing. Some interesting choices of material. "Calling You" is a long time favourite of mine.
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Post by: George on November 04, 2003, 11:30:59 PM
George, what was the time frame between your before photo and your after photo?  I’m guessing the after photo is the clear one.

Jane, the top (older) picture was taken in May 1998 and the newer one was taken in 2002.