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Title: THE DAYS OF FUTZING AND FINESSING
Post by: bk on January 03, 2021, 12:22:52 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes were futzing and finessing, and now it is time for you to post until the futzing and finessing cows come home.
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Post by: bk on January 03, 2021, 12:24:28 AM
And the word of the day is: AUDACIOUS!
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Post by: singdaw on January 03, 2021, 04:00:20 AM
~~~RECOVERY VIBES~~~ for DR Jennifer!
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 04:06:04 AM
Good morning, all!
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 04:06:44 AM
~~~RECOVERY VIBES~~~ for DR Jennifer!

Ditto!
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Post by: singdaw on January 03, 2021, 04:08:07 AM
And the word of the day is: AUDACIOUS!


bk is currently in a period of AUDACIOUS creativity, it seems!
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 04:09:31 AM
Another nightmare last night, taking place simultaneously in the haunted house where I grew up at 3003 Goldman Avenue and the apartment where I now live, and about spirits of the dead.  I woke quite frightened, told the dream to a noncommittal Stella, and went back to sleep.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 04:12:03 AM
I will take the trash to the basement and pick up yesterday's mail, work a bit on Oh, Boy!, and loll about with the kitties.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 04:12:24 AM
Tomorrow I must do the laundry.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 04:23:13 AM
Massenet wrote a ton of operas, but my two favorites are Manon and Cendrillon, a version of Cinderella I prefer over Rossini's Cenerentola.  I very much like Beverly Sill's recording of Manon, and I've got the recordings featuring Victoria de los Angeles, a soprano I love, and Ileana Cotrubas, but Manon was one of Sills' best roles.

I am also very fond of this this recording of Cendrillon, with Fredrica von Stade (who's quite wonderful), because Ruth Welting's Fairy Godmother is spectacular.  The role of the Prince was written for a soprano, and this recording uses tenor Nicolai Gedda, just as many cast Prince Orlofsky in Die Fledermaus with a male singer instead of a mezzo-soprano.  I have the same problem with casting a tenor in drag as the Witch in Hansel and Gretel.

And this leads to another French opera I like very much, Mignon by Ambroise Thomas, based like Massenet's Werther on a novel by Goethe. I love this recording and once again the spectacular Ruth Welting - whatever became of her? - is dazzling as the actress-drama queen Philine; Marilyn Horne and the rest of the cast are wonderful. I'm also a big fan of conductor Antonio de Almeida, who was working on a huge book of Offenbach when he died.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 04:51:29 AM
And speaking of Antonio de Almeida leads to one of my very favorite composers, Jacques Offenbach, whose unfinished Tales of Hoffmann has become the playground of scholars, editors, and productions.  Pffenbach died before its first performance, so he never had the opportunity to finalize the score.  The standard performance edition for the past 100 years was finalized on 1906 or so in Monte Carlo. but since the 1940s there has been an attempt by many to determine "what Offenbach really wanted."  De Almeida discovered a trove of performance materials from a reading before Offenbach's death, and he was working on an edition.  A misguided German musicologist, Fritz Oeser, who had already misinterpreted Carmen, published "his" edition, and Michael Kaye has been working on his edition now, which was in collaboration with de Almeida, I believe.

So, at this point, Hoffmann's recorded in a number of treatments and the same goes for DVDs.

My two favorite recordings of the "Standard" version are Beverly Sills from the 1970s and the Opéra Comique recording from the 1940s. I saw Sills, Triegle, and a young Placido Domingo do Hoffmann at the Cincinnati Summer Opera around 1971.  It was wonderful.

There is a good DVD from the Royal Opera, directed by John Schlessinger, and the wonderfully strange Michael Powell film.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 05:03:46 AM
First attempt to shake up the standardized edition was Bonynge's recording with Sutherland.  He returned to the original play the opera was based on and rerplaced much recitative with spoken dialogue.

Oeser's edition for Schott was assembled around the same time, and it got a good recording with Neil Shicoff.

Michael Kaye's edition has been recorded twice. Jeffrey Tate's from the mid-1980s used Kaye's edition, but as more manuscripts turned up from archives and the Offenbach family holdings, a second recording incorporated more discovered music.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 05:30:24 AM
The greatest French opera? Bizet's Carmen

The opera was written for the Opéra Comique, with spoken dialogue, and it begins like a witty musical and ends a tragedy of obsession as a mama's boy with violent tendencies goes from honest soldier to smuggler and murderer, led astray by an amoral gypsy girl.  It was a flop and Bizet died shortly after its premiere.  Ychaikovsky saw a performance and said it was a work of genius, but what did he know?

When it was revived several years later, the Paris Grand Opera performed it with all of the spoken dialogue condensed and turned into recitatives.  A lot of musical underscoring and the second number in the score were dropped.  It was a huge success, and this became the "standard" edition.

In the 1960s Fritz Oeser, working with German director Walter Felsenstein, produced an edition that restored spoken dialogue as an alternative and the melodramas.  He also got lost in determining what music Bizet altered either by his own judgment or by outside forces in the original rehearsal period.  Since then, there have been recordings and performances based on the whims of director or conductor.

In 1950 Andre Cluytens recorded the opera with the Opéra Comique and a great French cast.

In the mid- to late-1950s Sir Thomas Beecham conducted the standard grand opera version with the great Victoria de los Angeles, and this was the recording I grew ip with.

In the 1960s, Maria Callas chewed up Carmen.  I think she's maybe too rough and nasty, but I also think she might have had a huge success in the role if she had decided to rethink her voice, and she's always fascinating.

In the 1980, Georg Solti recorded the opera with a good international cast and a very intelligent examination of Oeser's edition in comparison to the standard edition, and chose what he liked from each.  He's very thorough in the booklet to explain each of hius decisions, and I love this recording.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 05:32:10 AM
That's enough of me on this page!
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Post by: bk on January 03, 2021, 05:55:34 AM
I think I may have slept thirty minutes so far. My tummy is having serious issues and I put the blame on the too many cupcakes I ate - the frosting was way too rich and it's not digesting well at all.  I hope tummy calms down soon so I can get a few hours of sleep.
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Post by: ChasSmith on January 03, 2021, 06:14:09 AM
Oy!  Tummy vibes for BK!
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Post by: ChasSmith on January 03, 2021, 06:14:20 AM
Good morning, all.
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Post by: ChasSmith on January 03, 2021, 06:15:08 AM
There’s a whole lotta (but no Lotte) opera on this page.
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Post by: ChasSmith on January 03, 2021, 06:16:42 AM
And lots of lovely classic recordings of same.
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Post by: ChasSmith on January 03, 2021, 06:20:49 AM
DR Elmore, is that Solti Carmen similar to how the Met was doing it in the 1980s, or did they also roll their own? I just remember the production with Maria Ewing being my first exposure to the new edition.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 06:28:41 AM
Good morning, all.
Title: Re: THE DAYS OF FUTZING AND FINESSING
Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 06:38:58 AM
DR Elmore, is that Solti Carmen similar to how the Met was doing it in the 1980s, or did they also roll their own? I just remember the production with Maria Ewing being my first exposure to the new edition.

I think Ewing has three different DVDs available.  I prefer the Glyndebourne, directed by Peter Hall and conducted by Haitink.  As to your question, the Oeser materials started showing up at the Met in that Horne production conducted and recorded by Bernstein, a recording I dislike immensely. I couldn't quote chapter and verse on what each new production/DVD anywhere has done to the score.

That cut number, a scene-pantomime for Morales, the soldiers, a young wife, lover, and husband, is interesting to hear, but not really necessary.
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Post by: ChasSmith on January 03, 2021, 06:42:01 AM
DR Elmore, is that Solti Carmen similar to how the Met was doing it in the 1980s, or did they also roll their own? I just remember the production with Maria Ewing being my first exposure to the new edition.

I think Ewing has three different DVDs available.  I prefer the Glyndebourne, directed by Peter Hall and conducted by Haitink.  As to your question, the Oeser materials started showing up at the Met in that Horne production conducted and recorded by Bernstein, a recording I dislike immensely. I couldn't quote chapter and verse on what each new production/DVD anywhere has done to the score.

That cut number, a scene-pantomime for Morales, the soldiers, a young wife, lover, and husband, is interesting to hear, but not really necessary.

I always forget about that Bernstein recording. I’m not sure if I ever got all the way through it.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 06:52:05 AM
DR ChasSmith, Didion's new edition of the score for Eulenberg surpasses all the others.  It's a complete Opéra Comique edition of the original score, replacing the Guiraud recits with the original spoken dialogue and including the missing Scene-Pantomime.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/3795763118/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: THE DAYS OF FUTZING AND FINESSING
Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 06:56:10 AM
Sleep and tummy vibes for BK.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 06:56:38 AM
I wish I had the Powell-Pressberger Tales of Hoffman. Not currently offered by Criterion.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 06:56:59 AM
I'd like their Peeping Tom, too. Creepy little film.
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Post by: vixmom on January 03, 2021, 06:57:07 AM
sorry I have been E&T
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Post by: vixmom on January 03, 2021, 06:57:22 AM
Furious at what’s going on in DC
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 06:57:47 AM
I'm up and I'm ready for a nap.
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Post by: vixmom on January 03, 2021, 06:57:50 AM
And dealing with stuff I can’t post about
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 06:58:05 AM
Furious at what’s going on in DC

Amen.
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Post by: vixmom on January 03, 2021, 06:58:06 AM
But I love chocolate pudding
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Post by: vixmom on January 03, 2021, 06:58:17 AM
And rice pudding
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Post by: vixmom on January 03, 2021, 06:58:44 AM
Vibes and prayers for Tom
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 07:00:07 AM
Sleep and tummy vibes for BK.

Ditto!
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 03, 2021, 07:01:36 AM
Vibes for DR VIXMOM.
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Post by: bk on January 03, 2021, 07:01:37 AM
I'd like their Peeping Tom, too. Creepy little film.

Peeping Tom is a great movie, but it's all Michael Powell - Pressberger had nothing to do with it.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 03, 2021, 07:01:57 AM
Congrats to MR BK on receiving two Important Envelopes.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 03, 2021, 07:03:07 AM
My bank does indeed post deposits and activity on the weekend.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 03, 2021, 07:03:41 AM
For some reason for the last round, I was sent a paper check....so I'm guessing it will be the same for this one.
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 03, 2021, 07:04:46 AM
At least one survivor reported that some of the music played by the orchestra after dinner on the Titanic on that Sunday evening was selections from "Tales of Hoffman."
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Post by: bk on January 03, 2021, 07:05:23 AM
Still having tummy issues.  I fear I've slept as much as I'm gonna sleep unless this calms down. It just feels like everything's on the verge of coming up - it doesn't, but it hurts my throat and I'm bored of it.  It's like having to burp but you can't.  I keep popping Pepcids and hoping for the best.  I'm listening to the last act of Konigskinder by Humperdinck, a wonderful recording with Helen Donath - just a great-sounding CD.  The opera has gorgeous things in it but goes on and on for two hours and forty-five minutes, as opposed to the ninety minutes of Hansel Und Gretel.  You could cut forty-five minutes out of it and it would be better in every way.  But boy is there some beautiful music along the way.
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Post by: Jennifer on January 03, 2021, 07:09:35 AM
~~~RECOVERY VIBES~~~ for DR Jennifer!

Thanks.
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Post by: Jennifer on January 03, 2021, 07:11:08 AM
DR Jeanne I did try a heating pad yesterday. And it felt good while I was doing it. Also hot showers feel good. And I found some pills that I have used that don't make me super drowsy.

I woke up and it felt good so I thought that it was better. But now it is aching a bit. Hopefully another day or two and it will be back to normal.

DR Jane yes I was able to get the trunk open. The only reason I kept trying was because the trunk light showed as being open on the dash. And I didn't want to take a chance that it would open while I was driving.
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Post by: Jennifer on January 03, 2021, 07:11:46 AM
~~~RECOVERY VIBES~~~ for DR Jennifer!

Ditto!

Thank you. I can't believe that I could pull a muscle from simply trying to open my trunk. It's sort of ridiculous.
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Post by: Jennifer on January 03, 2021, 07:12:33 AM
And dealing with stuff I can’t post about

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Post by: Jennifer on January 03, 2021, 07:13:31 AM
Thanks for the vibes DR George!
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 08:15:44 AM
Has anyone watched Ratatouille?
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 08:17:12 AM
I'd like their Peeping Tom, too. Creepy little film.

Peeping Tom is a great movie, but it's all Michael Powell - Pressberger had nothing to do with it.

That's right. It's been 20 or so years since I've seen it. Another one Criterion needs to reissue.
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Post by: singdaw on January 03, 2021, 08:17:56 AM
I'm up and I'm ready for a nap.

DITTO!
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Post by: singdaw on January 03, 2021, 08:22:49 AM
The DH is reading a book about Kay Thompson, and due to a mention there, requested that we view Vincente Minnelli's last film, A Matter of Time from 1975. It stars Liza Minnelli and Ingrid Bergman. There is some dizzying Rome sightseeing and a bit of Liza singing. Otherwise, it is pretty awful.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 08:29:12 AM
The DH is reading a book about Kay Thompson, and due to a mention there, requested that we view Vincente Minnelli's last film, A Matter of Time from 1975. It stars Liza Minnelli and Ingrid Bergman. There is some dizzying Rome sightseeing and a bit of Liza singing. Otherwise, it is pretty awful.

I've read it.  It's by my friend Sam Irvin, who sorta dances around the question of her sexuality.  I was mostly interested in her interest in Eloise and Hillary Knight.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 08:43:08 AM
The DH is reading a book about Kay Thompson, and due to a mention there, requested that we view Vincente Minnelli's last film, A Matter of Time from 1975. It stars Liza Minnelli and Ingrid Bergman. There is some dizzying Rome sightseeing and a bit of Liza singing. Otherwise, it is pretty awful.

I've read it.  It's by my friend Sam Irvin, who sorta dances around the question of her sexuality.  I was mostly interested in her interest in Eloise and Hillary Knight.

I own it. Haven't read it yet.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 08:43:45 AM
I've done two crosswords today. Feels like it's going to be a long one.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 08:45:27 AM
CNN is airing a new documentary tonight that has gotten some good reviews called Jimmy Carter Rock n Roll President. May have to check that one out.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 08:50:51 AM
Joan Micklin Silver has died. I loved her movies Hester Street and Crossing Delancey.

She was at a loss with Rags, but then so were a lot of people associated with the show.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 09:01:07 AM
Really enjoying Legacy. Stephen Flaherty's music is always worth a listen. I'm looking forward to a few more listens.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 09:02:01 AM
We didn't snow, which had been a possibility, but we got rain and temperatures in the upper 30s. Not going outside today.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 09:02:15 AM
Onward ...
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 09:02:23 AM
Three!
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 03, 2021, 09:05:21 AM
Hmmmm a PayPal payment to EBAY will not go through......and I can't log onto my Capital One credit card info.....welcome to 2021.
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Post by: Ginny on January 03, 2021, 09:43:36 AM
Sunday afternoon greetings!  Richard went to virtual church in Dayton and I went to virtual church in Springboro and now we’re about to prepare our traditional Sunday brunch of egg and cheese sandwiches with bacon on the side.
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Post by: Ginny on January 03, 2021, 09:44:11 AM
And dealing with stuff I can’t post about

{{{{{Hugs}}}}} for DR Vixmom.
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Post by: Ginny on January 03, 2021, 09:44:36 AM
Feel better vibes for BK!
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Post by: singdaw on January 03, 2021, 10:07:21 AM
  {{{{{Hugs}}}}} for DR Vixmom.

DITTO!
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Post by: singdaw on January 03, 2021, 10:09:03 AM
Feel better vibes for BK!


Indeed.
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Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 10:40:37 AM
I think I may have slept thirty minutes so far. My tummy is having serious issues and I put the blame on the too many cupcakes I ate - the frosting was way too rich and it's not digesting well at all.  I hope tummy calms down soon so I can get a few hours of sleep.

The story of my life, stomach ache, nausea, etc. 

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Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 10:40:57 AM
My New Years resolution is to eat only enough to function.  So far I haven't succeeded.   I will though.  I will just slowly reduce my food intake.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 10:43:52 AM
My New Years resolution is to eat only enough to function.  So far I haven't succeeded.   I will though.  I will just do it slowly.

since I function as an eater, that wouldn't help me much.
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Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 10:45:32 AM
Furious at what’s going on in DC

Of course 😔💔
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Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 10:46:21 AM
And dealing with stuff I can’t post about

I am sorry.  Coping vibes.
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Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 10:48:47 AM
DR Jeanne I did try a heating pad yesterday. And it felt good while I was doing it. Also hot showers feel good. And I found some pills that I have used that don't make me super drowsy.

I woke up and it felt good so I thought that it was better. But now it is aching a bit. Hopefully another day or two and it will be back to normal.

DR Jane yes I was able to get the trunk open. The only reason I kept trying was because the trunk light showed as being open on the dash. And I didn't want to take a chance that it would open while I was driving.

I wondered why you tried so hard.  I am glad you are on the mend and hope you don't have anymore problems with your trunk.
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Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 10:49:32 AM
~~~RECOVERY VIBES~~~ for DR Jennifer!

Ditto!

Thank you. I can't believe that I could pull a muscle from simply trying to open my trunk. It's sort of ridiculous.

I just choked laughing at that.
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Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 10:52:17 AM
Keith even came in to check if I was ok ;D
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Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 10:54:27 AM
My New Years resolution is to eat only enough to function.  So far I haven't succeeded.   I will though.  I will just do it slowly.

since I function as an eater, that wouldn't help me much.

It sounds like Bruce will be joining me if he doesn't start to feel better. 
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Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 10:56:43 AM
DR TCB I was thinking about you and wondering if you felt the need for oxygen.  It sounds as if you don't.  Vibes you never need it. 
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 11:04:16 AM
And dealing with stuff I can’t post about

I am sorry.  Coping vibes.

And more.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 11:24:32 AM
A one-hour tape of Donald Trump trying to force the Georgia Secretary of State yesterday to overturn the Georgia win and find 11,780 votes on his behalf has been released by the Washington Post.  I hope this tape is the nail in the coffin of Donald Trump.  It should be prime evidence in a trial to fry his ass.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 11:26:17 AM
DR vixmom, you need a lot of hugs and vibes!
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Post by: KevinH on January 03, 2021, 11:26:37 AM
Good afternoon!
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Post by: Donald on January 03, 2021, 01:02:29 PM
New Broadway Radio Show just posted here...

http://www.haineshisway.com/the-broadway-radio-show-2/

Best of 2020 - Top Ten Cast Recordings of the year.  4 Off-Broadway, 3 London, and 3 Studio cast recordings.  What made the list??? You'll have to listen to the show to find out!  Enjoy...

DONALD
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 01:38:02 PM
Honored Phyllis McGuire by playing The McGuire Sisters Sing Subways Are for Sleeping. Love that album almost as much as the OBC recording.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 01:38:22 PM
New Broadway Radio Show just posted here...

http://www.haineshisway.com/the-broadway-radio-show-2/

Best of 2020 - Top Ten Cast Recordings of the year.  4 Off-Broadway, 3 London, and 3 Studio cast recordings.  What made the list??? You'll have to listen to the show to find out!  Enjoy...

DONALD

glad to get these reminders.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 01:39:00 PM
Made a pot of cabbage roll soup and it's simmering.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 01:40:15 PM
Well, it isn't exactly cabbage roll soup. It's start with a recipe, use up veggies and meat on hand, and then fill it out with something compatible on hand.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 01:40:26 PM
I'm sure it will be fine.
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 02:01:09 PM
Honored Phyllis McGuire by playing The McGuire Sisters Sing Subways Are for Sleeping. Love that album almost as much as the OBC recording.

One of my uncles dated one of the McGuire sisters in high school. In the mid-1950s the McGuires were constantly tossed at us Wilson Elementary School students by our principal, George Crout, as examples of what perfect young Middletonians should aspire to.  Then Phyllis got mixed up with the mafia, and that was the end of that.
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Post by: Michael on January 03, 2021, 02:23:12 PM
Hope everyone had a great New Years. Took it easy at a hotel and just relaxed. Continued health and happiness and stay safe.
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Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 02:40:56 PM
Hi DR Michael.  I am sorry I missed you.  Happy New Year.
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Post by: Matthew on January 03, 2021, 02:49:29 PM
Good Afternoon.  Home from church. Beginnings of Tortellini soup in the slow cooker now getting ready to get back to school this week.  We have a choice of being at school or being at home, I haven't decided yet.  I think I will be at school, we'll see.   
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Post by: Matthew on January 03, 2021, 02:49:49 PM
Page 4 dance!! 
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Post by: Matthew on January 03, 2021, 02:52:06 PM
There as a request of the pastor to sing "The Little Drummer Boy" today as it went along with his homily.  So, we complied, and it was fine.  I even played the cajon, and someone actually said "I didn't know you played the drums" and I'm like.... I don't...  LOL

However, I laughed every time we got to "the ox and lamb kept time" remembering what DR Singdaw posted a few weeks ago about "Thyme". It's the little things....
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Post by: singdaw on January 03, 2021, 02:59:54 PM
Glad to be of service, DR Matthew.        :D
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 03, 2021, 03:06:06 PM
My friend saw the McGuire Sisters in a concert at a local dinner theatre.....probably in the 1980's........

He said they put on a great show.....that Phyllis was conducting the band with her hand behind her back so the guys could keep up with them.....  They took questions from the audience.

Phyllis looked at one of them and was quite surprised.....she said that she had just gotten a note from the guy who was their dentist when they lived in Ohio.  She asked him to stand up and they had a nice conversation.

She closed it by saying: "And ladies and gentlemen, that is the man that put the first hole in my head."
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Post by: Jrand73 on January 03, 2021, 03:07:20 PM
My card seems to be fine on the Capital One site....there seems to be nothing wrong with my PayPal account.....I guess maybe it's at the dealer....or something.....who knows.....
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Post by: elmore3003 on January 03, 2021, 03:20:24 PM
My friend saw the McGuire Sisters in a concert at a local dinner theatre.....probably in the 1980's........

He said they put on a great show.....that Phyllis was conducting the band with her hand behind her back so the guys could keep up with them.....  They took questions from the audience.

Phyllis looked at one of them and was quite surprised.....she said that she had just gotten a note from the guy who was their dentist when they lived in Ohio.  She asked him to stand up and they had a nice conversation.

She closed it by saying: "And ladies and gentlemen, that is the man that put the first hole in my head."

I haven't seen the movie since its first release, but I think Phyllis has a nice role in the film Come Blow Your Horn.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 03:37:16 PM
Love the McGuire stories.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 03:38:13 PM
You mean the ox and lamb weren’t spice merchants? Heresy.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 03:38:33 PM
Gratuitous post No. 99!
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 03:39:12 PM
Tortellini soup sounds good, very comforting.
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Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 03:40:02 PM
My friend saw the McGuire Sisters in a concert at a local dinner theatre.....probably in the 1980's........

He said they put on a great show.....that Phyllis was conducting the band with her hand behind her back so the guys could keep up with them.....  They took questions from the audience.

Phyllis looked at one of them and was quite surprised.....she said that she had just gotten a note from the guy who was their dentist when they lived in Ohio.  She asked him to stand up and they had a nice conversation.

She closed it by saying: "And ladies and gentlemen, that is the man that put the first hole in my head."

;D
Title: Re: THE DAYS OF FUTZING AND FINESSING
Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 03:42:03 PM
Bruce I have a few suggestions that might help you. 
First, stop drinking soda for awhile.  Drink water instead.
Try putting something under the head of your mattress to elevate it. 
After you eat, at least 3 hours before going to bed, try walking awhile to digest your food.  It can be a slow walk around your house.
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Post by: bk on January 03, 2021, 04:25:06 PM
I'm up, I'm up - went back to bed around eight or thereabouts and slept until two-twenty.  Probably six hours of sleep all told.
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Post by: bk on January 03, 2021, 04:28:48 PM
Playing ketchup ever since.  Listened and finessed a track and locked another one, so just one left, but now my actor is asking if we can push the shoot a week - this is typical and my fear is if we do something will come up for him - he's staying with relatives in Florida is the issue, so he's asking if we can wait until he's back in Boston.  Not sure what to do - if we keep it this week we don't shoot until 8 at night our time, which is eleven his time and I'm not sure how his daughter, who's ten, does her few scenes at that hour.  And I have not done a damn thing with the book today, which is infuriating, so I'll start on that now - happily, I did a couple of extra pages last night.  If I do ten new ones today that's fine.  But I don't know if I can or not yet.  Meanwhile, I picked up one package and have ordered food.
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Post by: bk on January 03, 2021, 07:08:10 PM
Had a pastrami sandwich from Togo's for food, and spent two hours futzing and finessing - tons of little additions and deletions and adding more detail and new stuff.  But I had twenty pages to do. I've written two new pages and am taking a break.
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Post by: bk on January 03, 2021, 07:12:50 PM
Listening to some music. I'm still pretty tired and slightly out of it.  I will definitely write five or six more pages for sure, and ten if I'm feeling up to it, but I think I'll start that at eight o'clock.
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 07:46:00 PM
Tomorrow I must do the laundry.

I'm doing my second load of laundry now.  This will be the last for today. :)
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 08:05:25 PM
Really enjoying Legacy. Stephen Flaherty's music is always worth a listen. I'm looking forward to a few more listens.

I just got that, too.  I'll hopefully listen to it tomorrow at work.  I love Flaherty's music!
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 08:05:40 PM
Has anyone watched Ratatouille?

I haven't.  Should I?  Is it good??
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 08:05:56 PM
Massenet wrote a ton of operas, but my two favorites are Manon and Cendrillon, a version of Cinderella I prefer over Rossini's Cenerentola.  I very much like Beverly Sill's recording of Manon, and I've got the recordings featuring Victoria de los Angeles, a soprano I love, and Ileana Cotrubas, but Manon was one of Sills' best roles.

I am also very fond of this this recording of Cendrillon, with Fredrica von Stade (who's quite wonderful), because Ruth Welting's Fairy Godmother is spectacular.  The role of the Prince was written for a soprano, and this recording uses tenor Nicolai Gedda, just as many cast Prince Orlofsky in Die Fledermaus with a male singer instead of a mezzo-soprano.  I have the same problem with casting a tenor in drag as the Witch in Hansel and Gretel.

And this leads to another French opera I like very much, Mignon by Ambroise Thomas, based like Massenet's Werther on a novel by Goethe. I love this recording and once again the spectacular Ruth Welting - whatever became of her? - is dazzling as the actress-drama queen Philine; Marilyn Horne and the rest of the cast are wonderful. I'm also a big fan of conductor Antonio de Almeida, who was working on a huge book of Offenbach when he died.

OperaVision is streaming Komische Oper Berlin's production of Massenet's Cendrillon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4z2eOsKn7M) through January 20.  This has an updated story, though:

When a budding ballerina falls badly, her dreams are shattered along with her leg. Is there a life for her beyond her fantasy? And will Prince Charming take notice of her even though she may never dance again?

With the Berlin premiere of Cendrillon, the Komische Oper Berlin is lifting Massenet's rarely seen opera out of the cinders. In his surprisingly tragic interpretation, the renowned Italian director Damiano Michieletto plays with the clichés of the ruthless ballet world and crosses the line between fairytale magic and reality.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 08:07:28 PM
Really enjoyed Jimmy Carter, Rock & Roll President. The documentary dealt with Carter's love of music, which included jazz, country and classical in addition to rock. But it did showcase the Allman Brothers, Jimmy Buffett and others who raised money for Carter's first campaign. Carter was the one who started concerts on the White House lawn with people like Dizzy Gillespie, Dexter Gordon, Herbie Hancock and more playing. Willie Nelson, Bob Dylan, Garth Brooks and Trisha Yearwood, Bono, Buffett, Allman and more were among the talking heads. A few read some of Carter's poetry.

Reagan appears for less than 2 minutes, and in that time, you can see the seeds of Trumpism and division being sown. I had forgotten what an ugly, soulless horror that man really was, not to mention senile.
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 08:07:33 PM
We didn't snow, which had been a possibility, but we got rain and temperatures in the upper 30s. Not going outside today.

It's been raining a bit today, but not so cold as your area!  I went to my sister's and moved the hook to hold a ceiling lamp so that the lamp itself is right over where she moved her table to. 
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 08:08:25 PM
Then, I went to the mall and met my friend David.  He was down from Seattle for the day and we caught up and walked around the mall and got pretzels at Wetzel's Pretzels (https://www.wetzels.com/). :)
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 08:12:59 PM
And dealing with stuff I can’t post about

{{{{{Hugs}}}}} for DR Vixmom.

{{{VIBES AND DITTO HUGS!!}}}
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 08:13:39 PM
Feel better vibes for BK!


Indeed.

~~~DITTO, TOO!!~~~
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Post by: singdaw on January 03, 2021, 08:14:59 PM
  Wetzel's Pretzels (https://www.wetzels.com/).


I was going to make a joke but there is apparently no other word that rhymes with Wetzel's.      :D
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Post by: singdaw on January 03, 2021, 08:16:56 PM
This year's New Year's Day concert from the Vienna Philharmonic (on PBS) was brightened immeasurably by the presence of Italian primo ballerino Davide Dato:


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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 08:21:51 PM
DR TCB I was thinking about you and wondering if you felt the need for oxygen.  It sounds as if you don't.  Vibes you never need it.

~~~SUPER DITTO!!~~~
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 08:23:58 PM
This year's New Year's Day concert from the Vienna Philharmonic (on PBS) was brightened immeasurably by the presence of Italian primo ballerino Davide Dato:

(http://www.haineshisway.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6367.0;attach=11097)

He's a cutie! ;D
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 08:33:56 PM
  Wetzel's Pretzels (https://www.wetzels.com/).


I was going to make a joke but there is apparently no other word that rhymes with Wetzel's.      :D

I'm guessing you forgot the word "schmetzels." It's used just before the "Hasenpfeffer, Inc." line in the Laverne and Shirley theme song.
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 08:34:06 PM
Five!
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 08:34:48 PM
PAGE FIVE DAVIDE DATO DANCE!!

(https://www.danzaeffebi.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Davide-Dato-La-Fille-mal-gard%C3%A9e-di-Ashton-ph.-Ashley-Taylor-2.jpg)
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Post by: John G. on January 03, 2021, 08:54:58 PM
Good night, all.
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 08:55:27 PM
Good night, John.
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 09:52:27 PM
I'm listening to Donald Feltham's latest radio show. :)
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Post by: George on January 03, 2021, 09:52:49 PM
Lots of good music.
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Post by: bk on January 03, 2021, 10:02:41 PM
I've written six new pages - and after the notes I'll try to write another four to six but I have to be in bed by two at the latest.
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Post by: bk on January 03, 2021, 10:05:50 PM
Listening to the delightful children's opera, Brundibar - this is in English, a version by Tony Kushner. I'd like to hear it in its original language. It's only about a half-hour in length, but Hans Krasa's music is very sweet and catchy. The conductor is Gerard Schwarz, but the cast, who has to deliver a lot of rhymed couplets as well as singing - they're okay in the singing stuff, but the talking part is pretty amateur. I'll see what else is available.  Then at some point I'll move onto Saint-Saens' Samson and Delila.
Title: Re: THE DAYS OF FUTZING AND FINESSING
Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 10:40:38 PM
Really enjoyed Jimmy Carter, Rock & Roll President. The documentary dealt with Carter's love of music, which included jazz, country and classical in addition to rock. But it did showcase the Allman Brothers, Jimmy Buffett and others who raised money for Carter's first campaign. Carter was the one who started concerts on the White House lawn with people like Dizzy Gillespie, Dexter Gordon, Herbie Hancock and more playing. Willie Nelson, Bob Dylan, Garth Brooks and Trisha Yearwood, Bono, Buffett, Allman and more were among the talking heads. A few read some of Carter's poetry.

Reagan appears for less than 2 minutes, and in that time, you can see the seeds of Trumpism and division being sown. I had forgotten what an ugly, soulless horror that man really was, not to mention senile.

Thanks for the details.   I didn't know what it was about. 
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Post by: Jane on January 03, 2021, 10:44:50 PM
'night
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Post by: TCB on January 03, 2021, 11:20:25 PM
The DH is reading a book about Kay Thompson, and due to a mention there, requested that we view Vincente Minnelli's last film, A Matter of Time from 1975. It stars Liza Minnelli and Ingrid Bergman. There is some dizzying Rome sightseeing and a bit of Liza singing. Otherwise, it is pretty awful.

I've read it.  It's by my friend Sam Irvin, who sorta dances around the question of her sexuality.  I was mostly interested in her interest in Eloise and Hillary Knight.


Kay’s sexuality or Liza’s?  I would hope that Liza would have better taste in women than she does with men.
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Post by: TCB on January 03, 2021, 11:22:50 PM
DR TCB I was thinking about you and wondering if you felt the need for oxygen.  It sounds as if you don't.  Vibes you never need it. 


Unfortunately, I am very much in need of oxygen.  That is why I have almost called the fire department on several nights.
Title: Re: THE DAYS OF FUTZING AND FINESSING
Post by: TCB on January 03, 2021, 11:24:25 PM
Recovery vibes for DR Jennifer.
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Post by: TCB on January 03, 2021, 11:25:35 PM
Comfort vibes to our beloved vixmom.


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Post by: TCB on January 03, 2021, 11:37:55 PM
PAGE FIVE DAVIDE DATO DANCE!!

(https://www.danzaeffebi.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Davide-Dato-La-Fille-mal-gard%C3%A9e-di-Ashton-ph.-Ashley-Taylor-2.jpg)


Don’t tell me, Peter Pan.
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Post by: TCB on January 03, 2021, 11:41:52 PM
It looks like his dance belt had a blowout.
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Post by: TCB on January 03, 2021, 11:42:30 PM
John, are you still with us?
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Post by: TCB on January 03, 2021, 11:43:05 PM
And George, are you not?
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Post by: TCB on January 03, 2021, 11:53:00 PM
I guess it is “no” to both questions.
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Post by: TCB on January 03, 2021, 11:53:11 PM
Good night.
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Post by: bk on January 04, 2021, 12:04:38 AM
People have disappeared.
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Post by: bk on January 04, 2021, 12:04:48 AM
Gone into hiding.
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Post by: bk on January 04, 2021, 12:05:26 AM
Are in absentia.
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Post by: bk on January 04, 2021, 12:05:35 AM
Or Arkansas.
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Post by: bk on January 04, 2021, 12:05:44 AM
I gotta tell you.
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Post by: bk on January 04, 2021, 12:05:51 AM
Why I oughta...
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Post by: bk on January 04, 2021, 12:05:58 AM
And then I wrote...
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Post by: bk on January 04, 2021, 12:06:18 AM
I'm up to eight pages - will try to do at least two more by two in the morning.
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Post by: bk on January 04, 2021, 12:06:25 AM
That is the goal.
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Post by: bk on January 04, 2021, 12:06:33 AM
And I don't care who knows it.
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Post by: bk on January 04, 2021, 12:06:55 AM
I may have to watch that Cendrillon, although it sounds like it might be dreary.