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Title: ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: bk on November 15, 2003, 12:46:03 AM
I love today's topic and I'm really looking forward to your posts - after you've read the notes, of course.  And, they're off and running...

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Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 12:52:45 AM
Not really a collector but in my record collection (is that a contradiction) I collect (1) Answer songs (2)any song that was in competition in the European Song Cong contest (1956 - the present) - and (3) songs that were nominated for Oscars. (only back to 1950 or so). I also delight in truly bad sentimental pop songs. I do have a small collection of Bears but that probably won't surprise anyone.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 03:44:03 AM
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Oh my - which collection to start with?

When I was a small Indiana boy, I loved watching television and I loved getting mail, so I combined the two by writing to people I saw on the small screen.  In return, I would get postcard sized photos of stars with printed on autographs, and now and then a real picture with a real signature!  I have a few of those still, and with the advent of EBAY, my collection has grown.

I also collect, of course, memoribilia of Frances Farmer, Allison Hayes, and Carroll Baker...and have a lot of photos and ephemera of those three dames.

I collect record albums - cast albums, soundtracks, vocalists.  I have a complete Annette Funicello LP collection, and lots of Lawrence Welk (on Coral), Billy Vaughn (on Dot), and others.

And movies.....and cd's.....and DVD's.....posters, lobby cards, biographies....scripts.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 03:48:58 AM
DR Ron - I am so glad you are enjoying the tape.  And yes Gale was a tiny thing - and I sent that Oh! Susanna episode to you particularly because she sings and Sings AND SINGS!  That rock n roll number was cute, and I had never heard it before, don't have it on a record either, nor do I have "A Farewell to Arms" - what a song!

AND yes I sent you that "Millionaire" episode so you could see Miss Allison Hayes in action!  She was so lovely in that show (thanks to DR MBarnum for sending it to me) - and all those clothes, except the furs, belonged to her!  She is also wearing in one scene (where she is seated) her "lucky" ring, a heart shaped stone surrounded by diamonds.

So go out today and get your lipstick and matching nail polish.....snow peach....Snow Peach.....Snoooooooooowwwwwwww  Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeech!

And as soon as Mr BK said it, I remembered, he is correct.  "Queen for a Day" was indeed broadcast from the Moulin Rouge!  I forget what adjective they used but it was either....the "world famous", or "Fabulous", or maybe merely "beautiful!"
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 03:56:32 AM
Here is your Allison Hayes picture of the Day!  A publicity still from the television series Conflict!  She is wearing her "lucky ring."

After today, we will an Allison Hayes Picture of the WEEK!  No, no...I know you will miss her....but believe me, the picture each week will be a stunner!  

Enjoy if you will......Miss Allison Hayes nee Mary Jane Hayes, Miss District of Columbia 1949, Sweetheart Girl of the VFW, Official Hostess of the Washington DC Cherry Blossom Festival 1948, Miss Forget Me Not, concert pianist, and Fifty Foot Woman!  ;D

Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Ben on November 15, 2003, 05:11:35 AM
About to go out and do laundry. I will return later to post. Don't do much collecting but I will find something to talk about.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Jennifer on November 15, 2003, 05:11:36 AM
DR Ben, I see you lurking!  Please go back to sleep. It is very hard to keep up with your posts if you are always posting :)
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Ben on November 15, 2003, 05:12:12 AM
Jennifer, you funny lady. Me go now. Do laundry. Bye.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Jennifer on November 15, 2003, 05:14:12 AM
DR Emily wrote:
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Jennifer: I think Andrea and I will be going to see Hillel's EVITA despite my earlier rant.  It shows at the end of February.  If you wanna meet up with us to form our own HHW-Get Together that would be fun.  In the meantime don't forget to check out the McGill Savoy Society's Pirates of Penzance.  They are ten times better than the Gilbert and Sullivan's performed by the Montreal West and Lakshore Operatic Societies... mainly because they use the resources of actual voice students from the music department .

Yes, if you go when I am able to go I would love to see the show with you guys.

Btw, is it assigned seats or first come first served?

I actually saw the McGill Savoy Society do a production of Pirates when my sis went to McGill (maybe 8 years ago?).  It's not one of my favorite shows. But that production was still very good.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Jennifer on November 15, 2003, 05:16:15 AM
DR MattH wrote (last night):
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DR Tom, that International Idol Show is a contest to choose the #1 World Idol. Winners from many different countries will compete to be chosen #1.

Oh yeah!  It's too bad that Clay Aiken won't be eligible as he is my favorite.

But Canada's own winner Ryan Malcolm is gonna be there.

Anyone know when this is going to be on? And will it be on Fox?
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Jennifer on November 15, 2003, 05:20:48 AM
DR Ben wrote:
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Jennifer, you funny lady. Me go now. Do laundry. Bye

Some how "lady" sounds very old :(
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Jennifer on November 15, 2003, 05:33:34 AM
What do I collect?

Postcards. I used to do this feverishly collecting map cards, stadiums, broadway, freecards ... and a few other categories. I still love them, but have stopped actively exchanging cards.

Just the Right Shoe:
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I have probably 50 of these little shoes.

I also collect playbills.

I can't think of anything else right now.

I'm off. Have a good day everyone!
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: LC on November 15, 2003, 05:42:33 AM
What a fun topic of the day.  The only things I officially collect are Coke cans from different countries.. it is a universal product and it can be fun to see them in various sizes and languages.

Unofficially, I collect playbills and ticket stubs of shows and films I see, postcards and shot glasses of places I visit.. but I'm not very much of a completist.  I also probably have over a thousand CDs.

Jennifer, I am glad you brought up shoes.  I have a shoe problem in that I have more than any sane person needs.  ;D

(Thanks to Matt for answering my question yesterday)
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on November 15, 2003, 05:45:57 AM
Question for all you DR's??

Are you experiencing long delays between tracks of Donald Feltham's Broadway Radio Show- LIFE UPON THE WICKED STAGE? I am and I wondered if anyone else is.???
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: DearReaderLaura on November 15, 2003, 06:18:58 AM
My sister found a box labled "Things of sentimental value" that was apparently mine while going through my mom's house.  I was afraid to open it, as I had no memory of it and had no idea what might be in it. In it were stones, dried autumn leaves, pincones, etc, that I picked up while in the hiking club in high school.

I still pick up rocks and things off the ground. Last time we drove to LA via Twenty-nine Palms, we were caught in a summer downpour and were delayed about an hour because the road was flooded. I made Sandra get out of the truck and pick up a rock that had been washed into the road by the water. It weighs 11 pounds.

My best on-the-ground find, though, was the drag queen shoes we found in a parking lot in Hollywood on our first visit there.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on November 15, 2003, 06:26:59 AM
I have over 5000 CD's- Very eclectic. I love Classical-Opera-Oratorios,Masses.I Love Jazz,The Popular Song book-Frank,Ella,Tony,Diana Krall et al-I love Country Western-Folk- Rock(which Jonathan Schwartz noted DJ for years who describes Rock as Jazz under pressure)and of Course- THE MUSICAL THEATRE. I believe that  there is good music and bad music in every classification.

I have collected almost 500 DVD's.

I have a Playbill Collection.

I have all The Kimball(among others) Collection of Lyrics of Cole Porter,Larry Hart,Frank Loesser,Irving Berlin,Ira Gershwin.Jerry Herman.Still waiting for a book to be published containing all the Lyrics of Stephen Sondheim.I am amazed that this compilation has not been done.

Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Ben on November 15, 2003, 06:45:31 AM
BK and other DR fans should be interested in the following item:

Today in Theatre History (according to Playbill On-Line):

1956: Dogpatch comes to life as Li'l Abner is staged at the Saint James Theatre. Melvin Frank and Norman Panama adapted the Al Capp comic-strip, with songs by Johnny Mercer and Gene dePaul. The cast includes Tina Louise and Stubby Kaye dancing to Michael Kidd choreography.

Also according to POL, Camelot began performances last night at Arena Stage in DC. Our own DR Jose has been deeply involved in said production. Now that it's begun performances maybe he'll get his butt cheeks (a BK reference) back here and post ;-) The show opens November 21 so we may not see him till then.

Len Cariou will be playing Ben (not me) in a concert version of Follies in Boston. I feel like a reporter.

I'll be back later.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Ben on November 15, 2003, 06:51:29 AM
Ron: 51 to the magic number
Tom: 64 to the magic number
JRand: 96 to the magic number

Jennifer, you and I remain neck and neck.

I, personally, don't care much for shoe shopping. Mainly because I have small feet, for a man, and it is extremely difficult to find a man's shoe in size 6.

Need to get back to the Laundromat and fold and fluff again.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Ben on November 15, 2003, 06:53:33 AM
Twenty Nine Palms makes me think of that song from the 40s (I think) The Lady from Twenty Nine Palms. Elena Bennet does a great version on her CD A Wrinkle in Swingtime w/orchestra conducted by the faboo Fred Barton
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Michael on November 15, 2003, 07:00:58 AM
I collect Michael Shayne Mysteries (Big Surprise)

I used to collect playbills and souvenir programs and cds until I sold them off at ricidiculously high prices to people on Ebay and they in turn sponsered my various trips to LaLaLand.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Danise on November 15, 2003, 07:01:00 AM
Good Morning all!  How lovely to wake up and find something I wrote included in a song!  THANK YOU, Noel!  I'm honored.

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Wish me a warm hand on my opening
Or crown me Queen for a Day
But don't give me no crisp crap
I'm not a celery stalk

And if I need some cheesecake flavoring
There's a bodega right downstairs
But don't give me no crisp crap
I'd rather take a walk

Let us
Appreciate lettuce
Arugula
A true Gullah recipe hint.
A brand new twenty...
Let's have plenty
Straight from the mint
But please don't make me squint

If we're to sit and sing of solid waste
I have one standing rule
As I take my seat, don't give me crisp crap
I prefer a softer stool.

As far a collections go, I like unusual pieces of jewelry.  For example, I have both the Ranger and Psi Corp. Pins from Babylon 5.  I love wearing them and the mundanes have no idea what they are.

 There's nothing like giving a presentation and knowing I'm having a little bit of secret fun especially when someone complements me on the pin afterwards with no idea what it represents.  I’m not into diamonds or anything like that, just special looking stuff.

I guess the biggest thing I’m into (and I know this is hard to believe) is technology.  If you want to impress me, talk about what your computer can do.  What programs you have.  What gadgets you’ve got.  I LOVE that stuff.  

In fact, when I get done here, I’m going to a computer show.  I want that Adobe Photoshop Elements program and hope I’ll be able to get it there at a good price.  No telling WHAT I might find!

So until I get back home and can regale you with the tale of  my adventures, I bid you all a safe, happy, lazy day!

D


Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Matt H. on November 15, 2003, 07:17:52 AM
I don't think of it as collecting as much as I do accumulating stuff! It just kind of PILES up.

Movies: I have a couple of thousand if you add the videotapes, laserdiscs, and DVDs. I had a couple of friends over to see that 1979 SHE LOVES ME, and one of them commented, "When do you have time to WATCH all of this?" Good question with no answer. I guess it's just soothing knowing it's there if I WANT to watch it.

Broadway cast albums: hundreds of them on LP and CD, but I'm really not interested in getting casts of the same musicals from around the world, so most of mine are Broadway, London, or studio work to fill in gaps of shows I like or am curious about. I was proud with the professional theater group in town called me a year or so ago because they were staging something that needed songs from ALLEGRO in the background, and someone had told the director that if anyone in town would have that cast recording, it would be me. I asked the director, "Do you want it on LP or CD?" Burned them a copy of the CD, of course.

Books: Most of my thousands of books have to do with films, television, or stage, but as an Agatha Christie freak, I also have all of her novels and plays (nearly 100 of those) along with books about her output. Also have all of Sue Grafton's alphabet series and most of Patricia Cornwell's too.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Andrea on November 15, 2003, 07:26:49 AM
DR Matt ( I believe) mentioned Splendor in the Grass  yesterday. In my effor to contribute a random bit of trivia... does any one know where the title comes from? (Not you emily!)


Ahh.. collections... I used to collect stickers, still collect Americans (tee hee) and am still continuing with my collection of antique hats. Oh and fabric-- I have tons and tons of fabric! As my dear old hist 101 teacher used to say, "She who dies with the most fabric wins!"

I will post later after my luncheon about my weirdest purchases.. like the time I walked into an um... adult store at 17 and bought a corset. lol.

Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Matt H. on November 15, 2003, 07:48:54 AM
Yep, a poem by Wordsworth. But I emphasized American literature in college for my English major, so I have no clue which poem. The British Romantic poets are a dim, vague memory.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Matt H. on November 15, 2003, 07:58:23 AM
Someone yesterday (DR Jason perhaps?) mentioned about the Midler GYPSY not being available. He's right. It's out of print, and so is the CD soundtrack to that special if I'm not mistaken. I had it on videotape and gave it to a friend when the DVD came my way.

It makes me angry, but stuff on DVD and CD that we love does go out of print unless it's something with huge demand like THE MATRIX or something the studios are planning on re-releasing at a later date (SIXTEEN CANDLES). I've determined if it's something I really like, I get it when it's available. I've made the mistake of waiting too many times and then scrambling to find it at premium prices later.

Despite the fact that the Midler GYPSY is more faithful to the stage script than the film, I MUCH prefer the Rosalind Russell version. There's just something about Midler's voice that for me doesn't quite match the music of GYPSY.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Maya on November 15, 2003, 08:07:56 AM
I love collecting things, although if you get a good look at my room, it looks more as if things are just collecting themselves...it drives my mom crazy!

I have a number of collections, although nothing like BK's and other DR's.  

I've held on to my ticket stubs for the last few years, for both movies and theatre.  The sad thing is the number is about equal...about 50 of each.  

I collect Playbills...I have about 100 I guess...half are mine, half my grandmother gave to me from her years of theatregoing.  The oldest playbills I have that she gave me are from the original Bway production of A Funny Thing.....Forum and the original off-Bway production of The Threepenny Opera.

I collect cast recordings too of course, although I have a long way to go in making my collection there truly impressive.  I have about 150 cast recordings and theatre-related recordings on cassette, about 50 on CD, and maybe another 20 or 30 on LP.  

I liked Midler's Gypsy.  To me it was decent, if not particularly memorable.  The same could be said of Bette's Mama Rose.

Matt H.--you focused on American Lit for your English lit major?  Wanna write my Walt Whitman paper that's due next week??  ;)
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 08:08:36 AM
DR Andrea here is a link to the Wordsworth poem.  It is called 'Intimations of Immortality from Recollections of Early Childhood.'  The quotation is in the next to last stanza.

http://jollyroger.com/zz/ypoetry3d/Longfellow,HenryWadsworthhall/cas/4.html (http://jollyroger.com/zz/ypoetry3d/Longfellow,HenryWadsworthhall/cas/4.html)

Watch out for popups....if you do a search for the title, you might find a more user friendly page to read it on.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Maya on November 15, 2003, 08:12:33 AM
A pic of someone who really likes to collect things...
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: JMK on November 15, 2003, 08:23:06 AM
What a bunch of pathetic losers you collectors are--wait a minute, I need to go bid on an eBay auction.  Be right back.   ::)

Of course, the above is a joke!  One of the funniest moments my wife and I have experienced in the last few years was at one of our sons' birthdays when one of the other fathers turned to me and said "Have you heard about this new thing called eBay?"  I played dumb.

Most of you longtimers at HHW know of my Frances Farmer fixation.  I have what is probably the world's largest FF memorabilia collection (sorry, JR) which was used extensively in the A&E Biography about her.  It is my dream to open a Frances Farmer Museum someday, which will use FF as the fulcrum around which many ideas will be explored:  the studio system, leftist politics, the Abraham Lincoln Brigade, the Group Theatre, and maybe even Indiana television (oy, oy, oy).

I also collect Saturday Evening Posts (I have issues back into the 19th century, but my faves are the over the top issues from 1961 when they went "mod" for about two months in order to attract advertising).  I also have a large collection of Mads, but once they put out that CDROM set a few years ago of every issue up through 1999 or so, I didn't feel the need to have the hard copies any more.  Anyone interested in them?  :)

I also have a huge collection of CDs and LPs, probably close to 10,000, stacked in every conceivable shelf of our home.  I have just about every show ever recorded, including a bunch of composer demos, etc.  I also have rare sheet music and folios from flops (who knew Here's Where I Belong had such nice tunes in it, for example).

My favorite music genre of collecting is Brasilian material.  The Brasilians, DRs, simply put us to shame in the pop music department--their popular music from the late 50s on is so harmonically sophisticated, so rhythmically propulsive, that it can make a grown man weep.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: JMK on November 15, 2003, 08:26:39 AM
Matt H., your comment above reminds me of the Erma Bombeck routine about her family videotaping everything to watch later--they never had a chance to actually watch anything as they were always busy taping something else.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Matt H. on November 15, 2003, 08:33:06 AM
DR Maya - Writing papers? Ugh! I didn't enjoy it when I had to do all those on a manual typewriter all those eons ago. You young whippersnappers (just joking) have it SO easy with computers.

Of course, the research and writing time is the same whether then or today, but I SURE wish I had had a computer and Microsoft Word all those years ago when we had to footnote on the page, have NO mistakes on the paper, and not allowed to use white-out or erasable bond paper. Nightmare city.

Retirement seems like heaven when I think of all those hours spent writing and typing.

Good luck on your paper. I did love Walt Whitman.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Noel on November 15, 2003, 08:36:54 AM
In my entire life, not a week goes by when there's not some grating female voice urging me to throw out something truly dear to me that I've accumulated.  I like to hold onto everything I write, whether it's a carbon copy of an old letter, or an early draft of a song.  This seems reasonable to me, not so much to others.

And yes, playbills of everything I've attended.

But the reason I do this is because my mother did it before, saving the playbills of everything she attended from 1945 to 1957, just about all of them on Broadway.  (Ergo, they're of uniform size, and bound.)  As a child, I'd read these over and over, wondering what it must have been like to see the original runs of plays by Williams, Inge and Miller.  All the Rodgers and Hammerstein musicals, Carol Channing in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, Rosalind Russell in both Auntie Mame and Wonderful Town, Shirley Booth in both A Tree Grows In Brooklyn and Come Back Little Sheba, Robert Preston in The Music Man.

So, I save all my playbills, thinking of the enjoyment a child of mine could derive from them someday.
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 08:45:46 AM
But DR JMK - didn't I tell you, I recently opened an Indiana branch of the Frances Farmer Television Museum.

We are open weekends 11-7 and on Sundays we combine it with a big Flea Market and Craft Show!
Title: Re:ORDER IN THE NOTES
Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 09:39:10 AM
All right, you guys!  Play nicely.

Collecting.  Hmmmm.....

I don't know if I truly qualify as a "collector" because my habits are erratic and, to true collectors, confounding and maddening.

I don't have to have every single issue of something, be it a magazine, or CD/LP in a specific genre, etc.  I collect the ones I "like."

I've been collecting soundtracks since 1962.  On LP, I have about 1,500 film soundtracks, scores and musicals, that I truly love.  I know folks with more than 6,000 LP soundtracks alone.  They collect "to collect" -- have to have every single LP ever issued, including reissues, foreign issues, 45 r.p.m., DJ promo copies, the works.  I know they love the music, too, but they are completists and I'm not.

Can't be bothered with that because it's the music I love to accumulate, not every occasion the music was put on a different LP.  I have more than 2,000 CD soundtracks, including re-recordings, special issues by composers, etc.

In the past few years, I've acquired an interest in collecting various things from favorite films -- posters, still sets (usually, I have to buy a set one still at a time), lobby cards (ditto what I said about still sets), inserts (those 14 X 36 posters).

And I'm nuts about window cards (usually 14 X 22 posters on heavy card stock) for Broadway musicals, having among my most treasured possessions original window cards for "A Little Night Music" and "On the Twentieth Century."  I have also no compunction about acquiring reproductions of posters if I like something well enough and the repro is as exact a copy as can be.  I have repros from most Sondheim shows (except I cannot find one of an original -- i.e. the first --"Into the Woods," but I'm patient).  A couple of months ago, I lost a bid for an original "Mack & Mabel" window card.  I was beat out in the final seconds by someone who wanted it REALLY badly.  Actually, I entertained ideas that the seller would contact me and tell me the highest bidder got carried away and bid higher than he meant to.  I was willing to pay a lot, but I wasn't fast enough to beat the clock.  To make up for the disappointment, I treated myself to an original "Dream Girls" window card at half the price I had bid for "Mack & Mabel."  I've also got an original, but post-Tony, "Cabaret" card.

Every now and then, I stumble across programs from Broadway musicals, and I have a nice assortment, including "She Loves Me" and "Hello, Dolly!"  I lost one for "Cabaret", which included one of those sample 45 r.p.m. simulated records with a few songs from the show on it.

And one of my TRUE passions is souvenir programs from movies.  I have been merciless and brutal in my acquisition of titles that rarely turn up.  Of course, there is a limit.  I once entered bidding for "Raintree County" and the bid hit $150 (yes, for that little insignificant little booklet that sold for 25 cents in the theater).  After the auction ended, another person contacted me and said she had a "Raintree County" program she'd sell me for $150.  I thanked her and declined.  Two months later, I got one for $12.50.  And once I was bidding on a "Gigi" and someone outbid me, then someone outbid them.  This was in the final moments.  That copy went for about $35.  A few lines below was another copy of the program, which I bid on and won for $8.  Go figure.  And I never could understand why the second, losing, bidder never bid on the copy I won.  

Oh...other things I've collected -- autographed photos of favorite stars.  I have an assortment of favorite TV cowboys, too.  And I have an assortment of Gary Lockwood photos.  He was in my favorite childhood TV series, "The Lieutenant" which didn't have a long run.

And I have two cast photos from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (different seasons...one with Angel and Cordelia in the photo,  and the other with Riley, Spike and Tara in the photo) signed by the entire cast (original, not a print)!  

I have a nice assortment of autographs, plus caricatures and photos of Broadway musical composers and lyricists, bought in unbelievable lots.  Sondheim is among the autographs.  Some months ago, I won an auction for an unbelievable item...it was a mock-up album cover for one of the Sondheim recording issues (selections from shows I had the cast recordings of).  It was called "Sondheim" and the cover was fabric.  Sondheim had autographed it and several more (I don't know how many were done).  I paid and waited and waited and waited.  I had won this item from a PBS radio station in New Jersey.  Finally, the station said they figured it must have been lost in the mail (in more than 600 transactions on eBay through the U.S. mail, NOTHING had ever been lost).  I figured someone either "took it", or they didn't think the bid was high enough (it was given to them to raise money).  My bid had been $156.  I was reimbursed, but I'm still bitter about it.

But my prizes are my photos and signatures of film composers.  I have a nice variety, plus some interesting items like the contract for Jerome Moross' score to "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn," a contract with Edward B. Powell to arrange the main title for "The Best Years of Our Lives" and Hugo Friedhofers legal document signing over to Sam Goldwyn all rights to the music he composed for "The Best Years of Our Lives."  All these documents are signed by the named people!  I have a hotel receipt from the Beverly Hills Hotel signed by Alfred Newman in the wee small hours of a morning in 1938.

Oh, yes.  And there's an autograph from Mr. Gregory Peck on a card dealing with an anniversary of "To Kill A Mockingbird" -- something that came "with" the DVD the seller was hawking on eBay.  The card was mentioned in the description, but not as part of the subject.

Gee!  I guess I am a collector!
Title: Rave Reviews
Post by: Richard Valley on November 15, 2003, 09:39:23 AM
Thought Bruce and his Merry Minions might want to see a couple of messages posted on Scarlet Street about JEEPERS CREEPERS: GREAT SONGS FROM HORROR FILMS:

This disc has been riding in my car for awhile now and my admiration for Bruce Kimmel's production grows with each hearing. There's some great stuff going on here. The clarinet solo on "Goody Goody," that terrific bass and delicate mysterious opening to MOTHRA, the great pseudo-Andrews sisters mix on "Aurora." So many treats. And I've found myself singing counterpoint harmony everytime "The Faithful Heart" (my favourite) plays. This album presents these wonderful songs in fresh, beautifully rendered stylish settings. The singers couldn't be better chosen: the comedic stylings of Judy Kaye and Alison Fraser, the sheer lovlieness of Rebecca Luker, even Susan (bless her and her dad) Gordon sounds great (she's not a pro like some of the others but she's supported and presented extremely well). Is there a better tenor than Brent Barrett? I haven't heard one. If you passed on this at Hallowe'en, it would make a GREAT stocking stuffer for the Holidays.
--Farnham Scott

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Yesterday, my CD of JEEPERS CREEPERS arrived . . .

Now, on the surface this would not be news, but for the Borgo Kid, whose techno-ass is firmly ensconced in the Stone Age, this has been his very first musical CD purchase.

My God, this is an impressive piece of work! I have it playing on my computer here and now, on a gray, wet, dreary late-autumn morning while I'm doing some even drearier research and writing. Seriously, it's the kind of day and work where if it were night, I would be expecting the arrival of a raven shortly. The CD is the perfect antidote or ameliorator or facilitator -- call it what you will -- to these depressing conditions. To call it a lifesaver is hyperbole; to call it a mind-saver, however, is rather close to the truth.

Thank you to all involved in its production. I don't want to slight anyone by singling out someone else, but the female vocalists, as soloists or in harmony, are particularly inducing gooseflesh. Lilting, haunting, light-hearted, ethereal -- these people are stirring the far reaches of emotions long ossified. Why haven't these Sirens become household names as vocal stars, instead of the banal and redundant covey of one-note San Quentin quail who have become cultural icons? And, by the way, the cover design is particularly riveting -- simultaneously whimsically humorous and, if you look at it long enough and let your imagination run with it, quite disturbing.

Finally, I'd like to let all potential buyers know that I purchased this through Paypal and received the CD in less than a week. It couldn't have been quicker or easier. This from a reader of the magazine who lives remotely enough to be one of the last mail subscribers (if not indeed the last) to receive each current issue. Once again, thanks to all -- every facet of the CD's production has been pushing all the right buttons.
--The Borgo Kid
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Post by: bk on November 15, 2003, 09:40:51 AM
Now, even you people who say you aren't collectors really are, you know.  Just think about it - what do you save, what builds up - magazines you don't want to throw out, etc.

We need more detail on these collections.  For example, are Michael Shayne's Michael Shayne mysteries first editions, classic paperbacks or what?  Are MattH's Agatha Christie's first editions, American or UK, paperbacks or what?  I'm the proud owner of quite a few of the post 40s and 50s AC first editions from the UK (those are the true firsts with rare exceptions) and I own a couple of really rare 30s titles in their US first editions (in dust jacket - you'd be surprised how rare those are).  The rarest first edition I have owned was a first edition in jacket of Raymond Chandler's The High Window, which was signed by Mr. Chandler to Billy Wilder at the time they were writing the film of Double Indemnity.  I paid a huge price for it (the most expensive thing I'd ever bought at that time) - although I was allowed to pay it off over a two-year period.  I eventually sold it and forty-nine other books in order to pay for my first pricey painting, a J.C. Leyendecker 1921 Saturday Evening Post cover - I sold that, eventually, for almost 20K more than I paid for it.  Books and art are really amazing investments if you can sense where the trend is.  They just keep going up and up.  I'll give you an example: In the late 70s, I found a first edition of To Kill a Mockingbird, a very nice copy in a pretty terrific dust jacket - it was really expensive - $70 or so.  When I got deevorced, I had to sell all my books and it went.  Today, that same copy would fetch $15 to 20,000.  
Title: Joe Franklin
Post by: Richard Valley on November 15, 2003, 09:43:59 AM
Forgot to mention that JEEPERS CREEPERS associate producer Tom Amorosi and I will be appearing on New York radio's JOE FRANKLIN SHOW tonight on WOR AM. If you're a nightowl, tune in; we'll be on some time after 1:30AM and we'll be playing a song or two from the album.

Also, we've updated the Scarlet Store on our website and you can now order JEEPERS CREEPERS (plus magazines, DVDs, posters, pictures, etc.) using Credit Card, PayPal, or by printing out the order form and sending check or money order. You'll find everything at http://www.scarletstreet.com . . .

Richard Valley
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Post by: Matt H. on November 15, 2003, 09:50:57 AM
My gosh, what memories. I saw the original CABARET, have the Playbill and did have that 45 rpm flimsy insert to sell the cast album (but I suspect I could look forever and never find it). I also got the souvenir program, and since I saw CABARET on a matinee, there was a slick clay paper insert with photos for Despo and John Cunningham and Anita Gillette since they played matinees instead of Lotte Lenya, Bert Convey, and Jill Haworth.
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Post by: Maya on November 15, 2003, 09:51:11 AM
Matt--LOL, I suppose we relative youngsters do have it rather easy with computers these days, so I really shouldn't complain too much.  I can't even remember very well the days when I turned in hand-written papers.  I would just much rather spend my Saturday being lazy then writing Whitman papers.  Even though he is a great poet.  

Noel--that Playbill collection sounds pretty incredible!  Those would definitely be something to delight your children one day...especially if you raise them on cast recordings!  
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Post by: Matt H. on November 15, 2003, 09:55:30 AM
bk, I have first editions in hardback of some of the later titles: SLEEPING MURDER, CURTAIN, etc. but certainly not anything like what you have. It's enough for me to have the words. As I said, an accumulator rather than a true collector. I have always been fascinated with the cover art for the paperback versions down through the years.
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 10:33:05 AM
First editions:

Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
Will There Really Be a Morning? by Frances Farmer (2 copies)
A Rage to Live by John O'Hara

a couple of others probably.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 10:48:57 AM
JRand:  There is a poem in "A Rage to Live" that starts out "Poor wretch..." and ends with "...nothing but a rage to live."

Can you do the whole poem for me?  It's not very long.
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Post by: SwishySarah on November 15, 2003, 10:51:56 AM
I will be going to see Cabaret at the Arena Theater on December 11th, I think, as a school thing. The Drama teacher at my school gets group rate tickets that we can purchase, and o we get to attent a lot of shows. I haven't been able to do any ujntil this year, so I'm excited! After that, I think it's A Man of Men, or something of the sort. Perhaps I'll finally meet another H/K, if DR Jose is playing that night!

I don't really collect anything for the purpose of collecting it, so much as things accumulate. I have about 50 teddy bears from various parts of the United States, and some from the Caribbean. And not that this is a real collection, but I have every note ever written to me since 6th grade. It fills up about 6 shoeboxes. I also have every People Magazine I've recieved from whenever Titanic came out until now, which is almost every week. I think I have the entire Bobbsey Twins book set back from forever ago when they were popular (from my mom). Nothing of real sentimental value, except some of those notes. Mostly just a fun waste of space.

I made $39 in tips last night. I'm really liking this job. Maya, I work at the Ashburn Cafe in the Giant Shopping Food Center of Ashburn Village :).

I finally get to go and see my new cousin from Kazakhstan tomorrow! My aunt and uncle started the adoption process back in February, and it took until last weekend to get her here. Her name is Anastasia and she's absolutely beautiful and adorable and I could go on for days. She speaks almost no english, but what she CAN (and does) say is "I American girl! I American girl!"...SO cute...I'll post a picture of her.

My aunt and uncle are only responsible for the dress and the bear, not the haircut, bow, socks, or shoes :).
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Post by: Charles Pogue on November 15, 2003, 11:03:21 AM
Bruce...Have I got the item for your Kimmel collection. There is a house around the corner from me, a Llyod Wright, I believe...the son, not the father...undergoing reconstruction.  During this spate of bad weather, it has been covered by Kimmel Tarps.

My main source of collecting has been books, but I dabble in lots of sidelines as well.  I have about six thousand books, mostly late nineteenth century to mid-twentieth century fantasy, adventure, mystery, historical...I have an enviable Edgar Rice Burroughs collection, one of the best Rider Haggard collections around, as well as Sabatini and P.C.Wren collections.  I also collect Sax Rohmer, Talbot Mundy, Fredric Brown, Henry Treece, Conan Doyle, Robert Howard, others.  A huge part of the collection is also theatre/film.  I've slowed down because I've never bought a book I don't intend on reading and I've got to read more and buy less.  I'm not a completist in the sense that I have to have pristine 1st editions (though I have many and upgrade editions from time to time), though with authors I like I do try to get handsome, dust-jacketed copies of most, if not all, of their books.  Many are autographed like my first of Tarzan of the Apes.

I probably have 2 or 3 thousand comics, most from the sixties and seventies...lots of Marvel, Tarzan, Conan, etc.  I have a large and eclectic  record/cd collection that covers early rock (pre-British invasion), show, big band, standard vocalists, soundtracks.  Some three or four hundred movies and CD's, many with films I've taped off the tube.  I collect memorabilia and magazines having to do with me and my career.  I have most of my old school notebooks from high school and college.  Movie posters (most still folded because I don't have the wall space)  Oddities like an great early studio photo of John Barrymore from Svenagili,  autographed photos of stars I've worked with, an ashtray from my friend, the late Henry Wilcoxon (for his pipe, I use it for coins), a drawing Chuck Heston did of me during a rehearsal notes session.  I think the playbills and programs of almost every play I ever saw in my life.  Old playboys, Plays and Players, a run of Theatre Arts Magazine from the late forties to 1963 (for some reason I did not save my Theatre Weeks).  A small collection of pulps like Weird Tales that have stories by authors I collect,  two of a rare King King jigsaw puzzle that came out with the release of the original movie.  My wife and I have more mugs than we need, usually picking them up as souvenirs of unusual or memorable places we've visited...and I have various junk boxes with oddities like buttons, campaign stickers, and just other unusual finds that I pick up here and there but don't feverishly collect.  

The books are the biggest collecting bug I have and I would say it is far from a mania.  It's all very methodical.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 11:03:40 AM
[size=8]JB-NYC[/size]


How's it going?
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 11:14:01 AM
To Toast our wants and wishes is her way;
Nor asks of God, but of her Stars to give
The mighty blessing, "while we live, to live."
Then all for Death, that Opiate of the soul!
Lucretia's dagger, Rosamonda's bowl.
Say, what can cause such impotence of mind?
A Spark too fickle, or a Sponse too kind.
Wise wretch! with Pleasures to refin'd to please;
With too  much Spirit to be e'er at ease;
With too much Quickness ever to be taught;
With too much thinking to have common Thought;
You purchase Pain with all that Joy can give,
And die of nothing but a Rage to live.

Epistle to a Lady by Alexander Pope
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Post by: Ann on November 15, 2003, 11:41:42 AM
Sarah...she's so cute!!  How old is she?  What an adorable pic...
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 12:11:23 PM
Two posts in an hour. Good Grief. And speaking of an hour - I caught up with "The Hours" on DVD last night. I thought the film very good indeed. I am not a Kidman fan but did like her performace - I still don't see the reason for the nose! I also thought the film belonged to Julianne Moore. Good to see Toni Collette choosing to take small roles in good film - much as Cate Blanchette. OZ is indeed providing some fine acting talent.
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Post by: William E. Lurie on November 15, 2003, 12:13:11 PM
Arnold --- 2 comments on your earlier note.  I too had that problem with Donald's latest show so I just manually went from track to track.  Also The Complete Lyrics of Frank Loesser will be out later this month and The Complete Lyrics of P G Wodehouse will be out in January.  Note that all subjects of these complete lyric books are deceased so they can be complete lyrics.  Since Sondheim is still alive and active if they did a book of his lyrics they would not be complete.  The Jerry Herman doesn't have "complete" in the title, so I suppose they could do the same with Sondheim.

I enjoyed TURANDOT at NYCO last night but for some reason there was a plain scrim all the way downstage that was never raised and it was like watching a Doris Day movie.  I don't know if the scrim was broken and couldn't go up or if it was a design choice.

Latest Pet Peeve: Why can't stores like The Gap sell sweatshirts that don't have the store name plastered all over the front.  They should pay me to wear their advertisement instead of trying to sell it to me.  I'll have to go to Sears or someplace like that in order to get a new plain sweatshirt and not be a walking advertisement.
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Post by: Jane on November 15, 2003, 12:18:42 PM
Sarah...she's so cute!!  How old is she?  What an adorable pic...

Ann, you beat me to it.
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Post by: TCB on November 15, 2003, 12:26:32 PM

I also collect, of course, memoribilia of Frances Farmer, Allison Hayes, and Carroll Baker...and have a lot of photos and ephemera of those three dames.

Oh, Jrand, are you familiar with Allison Hayes?
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Post by: SwishySarah on November 15, 2003, 12:26:52 PM
Ann: She's 6 years old. Isn't she adorable? *sigh* I'm so excited!

WEL: I completely agree about Gap. Unless you're spending big money on their normal clothes, everything has GAP written across the top. It's the same reason that a shirt from Abercrombie & Fitch costs $40, when you can get the SAME shirt elsewhere for $15, or why brand-name cars are thought of to be so much BETTER than others. The name. It's sad that most people are so easily sucked into that type of advertising.

I'm working from 4-10-ish tonight, so expect no posts from me until after then. My legs are going to HURT!
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Post by: MBarnum on November 15, 2003, 12:51:13 PM
I used to collect lots of things...Gumby items, 50s ceramics, salt and pepper shakers, movie memorablia...but since I moved into a very tiny house I have had to downsize considerably...now about the only things I collect are memorabilia pertaining to my favorite actors/actresses June Kenney, Allison Hayes, Joi Lansing, Ken Clark, Matt Battaglia, Cal Bolder and occasionally a few others. I also collect old paperback books from the 40s and 50s. I have a large amount of DVDs and CDs but I wouldn't say I was a collector of them, I just happen to buy a lot!!!

Speaking of buying things my cat Freddie was most generous this week and he bought a nifty reproduction 1950s telephone and reproduction 1950s alarm clock for me for my birthday and Christmas presents...wasn't that sweet of him! I always have the best pets!!!
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 12:56:54 PM
MBarnum: Could you get your cat to email my dogs and give them some advice etc on the art of shopping - birthday and Christmas imminent and I have seen no evidence of saving or spending!
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Post by: TCB on November 15, 2003, 01:07:27 PM
TOPIC 'd JOUR

Good afternoon one and all.

I am very proud to say that I own the world's largest collection of antique, retro, modern, and probably some post-modern dust bunnies.  I usually keep the collection in my bedroom where it won't be disturbed by the opening of doors or windows.  There was talk of representatives of Guinness coming to authenticate my collection, but sadly all of their staff suffers from acute hay fever.  Ironically, few people have ever seen the actual collection, although I have certainly offered to take a great many of my dinner guests into the bedroom to show them everything.

I will post about more of my collections later, but I have to prepare myself for choreography rehearsal this afternoon.
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 01:12:11 PM
Thank you for my biggest smile of the day TCB. How to you go about preparing yourself for such a rehearsal? Is it necessary to paint R & L on the appropriate feet?
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Post by: JMK on November 15, 2003, 01:12:34 PM
Here's one of my favorite slogans from an early 20th century toilet tissue ad in The Saturday Evening Post:

GUARANTEED, NO SPLINTERS!!
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Post by: Dennis on November 15, 2003, 01:20:06 PM
I have about 400 cast albums and some that are on LP.
Living in a 500 sq ft one bedroom apt with all of this isn't easy.  I moved here over 5 years ago and it is still in boxes.
I started collecting theatre programs in 1959.  I have just about every road company and every Playbill from every show I saw in New York in my collection.  I envy BK keeping his ticket to "Follies".  I didn't do that but I do have the program.
I have collected Theatre World over the years and finally have the complete collection of close to 60 years. When times get hard I toy with the idea of putting them on Ebay but I just can't part with them.
I also have 8X10's of various celebrities all of them autographed.  I have a picture and letter from Vivien Leigh.  I suspect she only signed the letter but hey...
I also have a letter from an actor by the name of Edmund Gaynes.  I had sent him a fan letter and he responded with a two or 3 page  letter. I believe in the 80's he was directing a few TV shows.
I also have a plethora of plays and theatre books.
One of these days I will have to clean house but until then.....
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Post by: bk on November 15, 2003, 01:22:21 PM
No, no, no (that is three nos) this will NOT do.  This will NOT do at all.  We simply cannot go from the highest heights to the lowest lowghts.  We must find a weekend middle ground, and actually we are even behind last Saturday's low numbers (or was it Sundays low numbers?) - in any case, time for some postin', say I.
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Post by: TCB on November 15, 2003, 01:22:50 PM
Thank you for my biggest smile of the day TCB. How to you go about preparing yourself for such a rehearsal? Is it necessary to paint R & L on the appropriate feet?

Nope, it is just a matter of rounding-up a pair of tights previously worn by Mama Cass, and one of Orson Welles' old dance belts.
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 01:25:12 PM
Will post more later -- I know, it's a bummer!! :(
but I just read Mr Valley's post and .... whoever thinks BB, as in Brent Barrett, and NOT Brigitte Bardot, is a tenor is wrong; we all know BB is a baritone...

That person should also listen to Mr Warlow to widen his appreciation.....

Like Cinderella, I'm having a ball reading all about your collecting "manias"!

I LOVE collecting and collectors because it's all about PASSION!
Can't remember in which recent film ( Down With Love?  Bridget Jones?) a female character says something like : "I stay away from men who collect!"

How WRONG can she be!
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 01:31:56 PM
Now I am visually challenged. I don't even want to imagine a combination of Wells & Cass. That sound like a confectionery company in England. "Wells & Cass" purveyors of fine confection.  I hope they you receive at least a Dance 10 on your score card. With all that talent (Wells & Cass) supporting your everything, you will indeed dazzle.
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Post by: Ann on November 15, 2003, 01:35:27 PM
TCB, you absolutely crack me up.  
I know you've already told me this in another post, but could you tell me again which theatre you're doing Oliver at?  I know it's close by...Gig Harbor maybe?
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 01:38:47 PM
I do hope that DRs Ann and Jed do go and see "Oliver". I want to know ALL. And a playbill (autographed by Fagin).
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Post by: Jane on November 15, 2003, 01:39:18 PM
I will post my collectibles later.  Off to the nursing home with Echo.
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Post by: MBarnum on November 15, 2003, 01:40:59 PM
 I almost forgot, I used to be pretty big into collecting autographs of vintage, and some current, movie and tv actors. Usually they were of actors and actresses from B-films of the 50s and I managed to get some pretty good ones. I probably have about 200 in my collection. Most were through the mail and some were in person when I would attend the Ray Court's shows in North Hollywood....Lillian Gish, Russell Johnson, Tina Louise, Donna Douglas, John Agar, Rex Reason, Gregg Palmer, Brian Keith, Penny Singleton, Art Clokey, James Shigeta, Peter Lupus, and Shirley Temple are some of those I can think of off the top of my head that might be familiar to you DRs. And of course I have autographs of all those that I have interviewed and even of our own Bruce Kimmel! I still get autographs now and then but not like I did throughout the 1990s when I would send out tons of requests each month (with return envelope and postage of course!). It was fun. Many of the celebs would send the nicest letters as well! I recall that Penny Singleton sent me a nice hand written 4 page letter! And I got Brian Keith's just 2 months before he died!
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 01:49:17 PM
Ozzie Tom!

Oilver?

Is that a new version of Wildcat? ;)
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Post by: Jane on November 15, 2003, 01:51:21 PM
The problem with collectibles is where to keep them.  I prefer not to store them in boxes, yet that is where our newspaper collection is.  A few of our favorites, the sinking of the Titanic, Prince Edwards abdication and November 11, 1918 PEACE, have been framed and hang on the walls along with the four papers from our birthdays.

During many of our multiple moves some things have been discarded (movie and play programs) lost or stolen (post card collection, comics, baseball cards and my large collection of cookie cutters).  I still have my rock collection but it is my memory that is now lost and I can’t recall where the rocks were collected.

I have a small collection of antique cups and saucers.  I still have my favorite dolls from my childhood, including my favorite Ginny Alexander doll that needs to be restored.  For my 50th birthday Keith gave me a beautiful doll I had been coveting, bringing the grand total to 17 dolls.  After which he wisely stated “that is your last doll”.  We have a number of original movie posters including The Magnificent Seven and an X Men poster signed by the cast.

A number of years ago we went to the collectable store to Holiday shop for our boys.  They didn’t get anything, however, we returned home with a beautifully framed set of trading cards signed by the stars of Star Trek.

I have my mother’s autograph book from 1939 when she traveled to America by ship, and then stayed at the Beverly Hills Hotel.  Included among the autographs she collected are Charlie Chaplin, Clark Gable, Carol Lombard, Andy Devine, and Douglas “Wrong Way” Corrigan.

Keith also has a rare book collection.
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 01:52:28 PM
BK,

Not too many posts yet but they are quite "meatty"  (one T, two ? Can recall! sorry!) don't you think?
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Post by: Jason on November 15, 2003, 01:53:17 PM
I'm afraid I have bad news...our very own Ms. Dorothy Loudon has passed away. Here's a link to the AP story...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031115/ap_on_en_ot/obit_loudon_1 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031115/ap_on_en_ot/obit_loudon_1)
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 01:57:10 PM
Thanks François. I guess I was confused with that line form MFL "he oiled his way across the floor". Don't you love the modify option?
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 01:58:54 PM
Sad news indeed Jason. I only ever saw Ms Louden  on TV etc but she could so easily make me smile and laugh.
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 01:59:27 PM
That line shows off Alan J. Lerner's genius, imho!

Like all the lyrics in "What Did I Have That I Don't Have!"...
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 02:02:28 PM
Art Carney, Dorothy Louden, Penny Singleton.  :'(

DR TCB - Allison who?  ;D  And you didn't let me know if you wanted Incendiary Blonde on your tape after Betty's interview.

DR RON - what did you think of you know who in you know what?  And did you remember any of the cars?
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 02:08:27 PM
Hey, Dorothy!

Who Gave You Permission?
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 02:13:58 PM
Great line François. Great performer and great OBC.
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 02:15:03 PM
To remember that wonderful lady:

http://www.brucekimmel.com/loudonbio.html.htm
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 02:19:06 PM
RE: Adoptions
My parents adopted this little guy.  I guess this would have to around 1950. He was brought to the family home on Christmas Day 1945. His life has been a good one.(http://)
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 02:21:38 PM
For a moment there I thought it was all my fault! I am not usually guilt prone. I don't even like gilt.
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 02:22:31 PM
No I tried to make the picture smaller but it wouldn't work.  Grrrrrrr
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 02:23:39 PM
Is this smaller?  There we go - no more cinemascope.  Anyway...as I was saying....here are two of the things I also collect.

A 1959 Marx split level dollhouse and 1:18 model of a 1956 Chrysler 300!  ;D
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 02:23:46 PM
Thanks for that post. Without it my post would have made even less sense than usual! At least some of us got to see the photo - briefly.
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 02:24:56 PM
Baby Face!
You've Got The Cuttiest Little Baby Face!

You Haven't Changed At All!

What a smile!
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Post by: Andrea on November 15, 2003, 02:29:54 PM
DR Andrea here is a link to the Wordsworth poem.  It is called 'Intimations of Immortality from Recollections of Early Childhood.'  The quotation is in the next to last stanza.



Oh... you're good:D
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 02:30:50 PM
Great photo, TomfromOz.  And your fashion sense is great as well!  Fifteen years later all of the little boys in Japanese Godzilla films copied your look!

Here is a photo that will be familiar to DR Jason, the Bucks County Playhouse.
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 02:33:18 PM
Now that's too small!


No DR Andrea, not me....the internet!

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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 02:34:25 PM
Thanks Jack. Now to try and find that picture. Was it a production of "The invisible Man" or perhaps a photo of Elvira in "Blythe Spirit".
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 02:36:55 PM
I should wait for a few minutes before I respond to posts. As punishment I shall remove myself from the board for about 5 hours. As is appropriate on this day, I am going to a Collector's Fair - to socialise and not collect. (or so I am telling myself).
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Post by: Andrea on November 15, 2003, 02:38:35 PM
Emily dear: post:)
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 02:46:51 PM
Oh!

The Bucks County Playhouse, hey?!

That's where one can send mail that will never be forwarded to the addresse! I see!

Thank Heaven it was not money!
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Post by: Michael on November 15, 2003, 02:54:01 PM
To remember that wonderful lady:

http://www.brucekimmel.com/loudonbio.html.htm

So sad to hear about Miss Loudon.

In case people did not know she was slated to sing on Jeepers Creepers doing I have Written A Letter To Daddy and Whatever Happened to Baby Jane but ill health unfortunatly did not allow her to do so.

She was a wonderful performer and she will be missed. To see her perform  musical numbers from her last two musicals Annie and Ballroom take a look at Broadway's Lost Treasures (The Tony Award Shows) she is featured in the bonus material singing Easy Street and on My Favorite Broadway: The Leading Ladies although she is listed as singing her showstopper Fifty Percent she is actually singing two songs! She starts with If Anyone Had Told Me which was cut from the show and then goes right into Fifty Percent

Thank you Francois for putting up the link. It is part of the website for Bruce Kimmel. I was shocked to see that there was so little about Dorothy on the WWW. David Levy who worked with Bruce conducted the interview.

She appeared on Bruce's Night of the Hunter, Sondheim: The Stephen Sondheim Album and The Stephen Schwartz Album where she does a rollicking In Just No Time At All


I am also posting a beautiful publicity shot of Dorothy.

(http://www.brucekimmel.com/images/loudondorothy2.jpg)
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 02:59:12 PM
If you look closely DR Francois, you might see your letter floating in the water!
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 03:00:08 PM
Lovely photo MDS.
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 03:02:51 PM
Jrand53,

You're right!

Darn! >:( I should have put my mail in a bottle!
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 03:07:38 PM
DR Michael S.

Thanks for your thanks!

Could you please DELETE that idiot's message in your site's guestbook!
Some people really need to get a life!

I'm still "confused" that so few people have signed the guestbook... but then... I'm naïve!
DON'T call me Sugar, please!
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 03:09:29 PM
I guess everybody's joined Ben for their laundry tonight!
Comedy tonight?
NO!
Laundry tonight!
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Post by: Ben on November 15, 2003, 03:29:06 PM
Here I am François, all fluffed and folded as I was last week. The bed is made, the pillows are plumped and I'm listening to Prairie Home Companion since my companion is on Long Island dressed in whiteface, entertaining children with balloon tricks and songs and jokes.

Four pages seems OK for Saturday, especially after the boom of the past few days.

I used to have a very large collection (over 300) of stuffed animals, mostly bears but other "guys" too, dogs, foxes, rabbits, a rhino, a red panda and others. I have a couple of very special pieces from France and Hamley came direct from the toy store in London. So did Corgi. It started many years ago, but due to life changes (and space considerations) it seemed best to pass on a large part of the collection. I still have a set of Gund Collector Bears. They are a once-a-year limited edition issue. The collection started in 1983 and I just last month got the 21st bear in the group. Although I know you're not supposed to open the box, I don't collect to keep something pristine in a box, "guys" are there to be held and cuddled and played with (I'm still a child at heart, I guess) so none of them have their boxes. They get vacuumed regularly and all look good considering some of them are 20 years old but I wouldn't part with them for nuttin'

I also have lots of CDs though not nearly as many as most of you. Most of the music is either show/theatre-related or vocals. I still have many vinyls (you younger readers, those are called "records"), most of my folk music is still on record. I have yet to transfer it to CD.

Ant is a fan of the great Judy Garland. He doesn't collect anymore but he still has quite a collection of JG material. We are slowly going through things and pruning. New York apartments are not meant for two people to have lots of things. Lucky for us we have Ant's parents on Long Island. Almost all of the JG stuff is out there along with his dollhouse. Since we can post pictures here now, maybe I'll try to post one of his dollhouse pictures. It's not a collectible, but he has worked on this dollhouse for 10 years. Some of you have seen pictures but I'll try to re-size something and post it so you can all see.
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Post by: Maya on November 15, 2003, 03:31:06 PM
I'm SO sad to hear about Dorothy Loudoun.  What a great performer she was.  She was too young to go.  :(

Swishy--I will probably be going to see Camelot at Arena too, although I'm not sure when yet.  I've heard they have rush tickets, so I'm going to try and look into that.

Keep on raking in those tips, Swishy Girl!  I'm sure you're a faboo waitress.
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Post by: Ben on November 15, 2003, 03:33:48 PM
Here's a picture that needs a little explaining. Because it's small it's hard to tell that it's a miniature but this is inside one of the rooms in his dollhouse. He had a picture of himself as Baxter the Clown reading the local newspaper. He then made sure it was to scale (he uses 1 inch equals 1 foot) then cut the picture out and placed it on the chair in such a way that it looks like he's sitting in the living room next to the bar relaxing. The room is back lit so it looks like sunlight streaming in and all the furniture and accessories are miniature including the liquor bottles.
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Post by: Ben on November 15, 2003, 03:36:27 PM
Here's another w/Anthony standing next to the dollhouse so you can see the relative size.
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Post by: Ben on November 15, 2003, 03:37:49 PM
Hadn't heard about Dorothy Loudon till I saw it here. Sad news.
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 03:40:59 PM
Ben and Ant - what great photos!  I thought he was sitting there!
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Post by: Andrea on November 15, 2003, 03:44:44 PM
Ah yes.... Black Comedy was wonderful and Emily and I hope to eventually see the Abridged word of God next week or the week after (most likely). McGill has a strangely thriving theatre progam. Another event in the works is the celtic society's Braveheart and Beer.

Maya, Miss Furnival seemed like someone who you would have enjoyed. The whole time throughout the play, I just kept imagining you on stage.

Sarah: 99% on your algerbra test? um... I think you parents should get you something really nice to make up for the grounding!

Silly purchase of the day: beautiful, beautiful, Nine West leather shoes with tiny bows....drool....
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Post by: George on November 15, 2003, 03:45:14 PM
Well, it turns out that my trip to Seattle has been cancelled, so I'm home.  Yea!  I'm actually glad that I'm not going anywhere today.  So, to comment:

I don't think of it as collecting as much as I do accumulating stuff! It just kind of PILES up.

Broadway cast albums: hundreds of them on LP and CD, but I'm really not interested in getting casts of the same musicals from around the world, so most of mine are Broadway, London, or studio work to fill in gaps of shows I like or am curious about. I was proud with the professional theater group in town called me a year or so ago because they were staging something that needed songs from ALLEGRO in the background, and someone had told the director that if anyone in town would have that cast recording, it would be me. I asked the director, "Do you want it on LP or CD?" Burned them a copy of the CD, of course.

I love musical cast recordings and I do collect different versions of musicals (details upon request), although I don't have to have everything.  And friends of mine do say to others that I have the largest collection of musicals that they've heard of.  I probably only have around 1000 or so...only!  I have a list in an Excel spreadsheet (finally finished!) and I'm up to 1169 lines...however that includes cross references and CDs that have more than one title such as 3hree (which includes "Flight of the Lawnchair Man," "Lavender Girl" and "Mice"), Far From the Madding Crowd/The Awakening and things like that.  Each of those those individual titles has its own line in addition to the main title...can you tell that I work for a library?   ;)

About eight years ago, I was involved in a local (really good) production of Angry Housewives[/b] and I was asked to put together pre-show and intermission music.  I didn't use only show music, but I chose to use all women's music (women singers) and I programmed them chronologically (for the most part).  Everyone loved the idea of all women singers and thought that it was put together very well.
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 03:47:07 PM
I am at a loss at the passing of Dorothy Loudon, one of entertainment's true treasures. :(  I was lucky enough to have seen her Miss Hannigan (one week prior to the Tony Award win) on my first trip to NYC.
I've always found it ironic that  two of Ms. Loudon's stage vehicles were transferred to the screen with Carol Burnett in her role(s).
Miss Loudon also provided some of the only lightness in Clint Eastwood's MIDNIGHT IN THE GARDEN OF GOOD AND EVIL.

Collections:
Well, PLATES.  four living room walls full, not to mention those insinuating their way down the hallway. . . this collection began with my air force uncle brought home a plate from Japan for his mother (my grandmother) in the early 1940's. . .so, there are sixty years of plates from people's travels covering the walls.  I will try to dig up a picture or two. . .and miracle of miracles: no two plates are the same, and there are upwards of THREE HUNDRED.
From this uncle, I also inherited TWO unpublished photographs of Marilyn Monroe, whom he escorted on her USO tour of Korea. (I will not post these photos on the web).  The expression on my uncle's face though, at the dinner table with MM, is priceless.

Cds, eclectically collected.
dvds, aussi.

Playbills from nearly every show to have played on Broadway since ANNIE. . honestly!  Kept in alphabetical order in a cupboard.

Autographs, dating from 1973 - - film, recording and stage autographs, a collection which began with Mr. Vincent Price's.  Stored willy-nilly, though, all cd liners which have been signed are prominently displayed on my office wall.  And, honestly, BK's autographs mean a great deal to me, since, he is one of the few whose autograph I have that I haven't met. . .YET. . .

Books, not really into the first edition thing - - books are meant to be read, not displayed, IMHO.  But, I snatch up all things Neil Gaiman, Terry Pratchett and JFK conspiracy.
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Post by: Michael on November 15, 2003, 03:55:12 PM
DR Michael S.

Thanks for your thanks!

Could you please DELETE that idiot's message in your site's guestbook!
Some people really need to get a life!

And Thank you for your thanks of my thank you.

As for the posting you are refering to; you are right some people need to get a life. However everyone is allowed their opinion and it just shows the kind of person he is.
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Post by: Michael on November 15, 2003, 03:57:40 PM
Here's a picture that needs a little explaining. Because it's small it's hard to tell that it's a miniature but this is inside one of the rooms in his dollhouse. He had a picture of himself as Baxter the Clown reading the local newspaper. He then made sure it was to scale (he uses 1 inch equals 1 foot) then cut the picture out and placed it on the chair in such a way that it looks like he's sitting in the living room next to the bar relaxing. The room is back lit so it looks like sunlight streaming in and all the furniture and accessories are miniature including the liquor bottles.

This sort of reminds me of one of the Twilight Zone episodes with Robert Duvall
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Post by: George on November 15, 2003, 03:58:59 PM
Someone yesterday (DR Jason perhaps?) mentioned about the Midler GYPSY not being available. He's right. It's out of print, and so is the CD soundtrack to that special if I'm not mistaken. I had it on videotape and gave it to a friend when the DVD came my way.

It makes me angry, but stuff on DVD and CD that we love does go out of print unless it's something with huge demand like THE MATRIX or something the studios are planning on re-releasing at a later date (SIXTEEN CANDLES). I've determined if it's something I really like, I get it when it's available. I've made the mistake of waiting too many times and then scrambling to find it at premium prices later.

I feel the same way, exactly.  There are some major released that I don't have yet...the revival cast recordings of 42nd Street, Gypsy (even though it's Sondheim and Bernadette) and Flower Drum Song because I know that they will be available for quite a while.  I did, fortunately, get the limited edtion, numbered (# 573 of 2,500) London cast recording of The Rink and several others for which I'm very happy.
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 03:59:10 PM
Okay, here are a few of the plates, two corner walls. . .and a recent picture of my recuperating mother, holding my newest nephew:  Anthony Andrew.
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Post by: Michael on November 15, 2003, 04:03:15 PM
Dorothy with Chita and Leslie and the opening night party of Jerry's Girls

(http://www.leslieuggams.com/Gallery/dorothychita.gif)

With Vincent Gardenia in Ballroom

(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:HGcqXsGFUsIC:www.musicals101.com/News/Ballroom.JPG)
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 04:11:25 PM
TD, I think the picture might have been made a bit too small. I can kind of see the dog, but not the plates.

Well, I changed the picture. . .
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Post by: Michael on November 15, 2003, 04:13:31 PM
TD, I think the picture might have been made a bit too small. I can kind of see the dog, but not the plates.

Well, I changed the picture. . .

First it was too small. Now it is too big. Don't you fell like one of the bares? Now you need it to get it just right. ;D
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Post by: Jrand73 on November 15, 2003, 04:14:08 PM
Great pic td!
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 04:17:37 PM
this is the dog, Minx Anastasia. . .and she's just right. . .the photo may not be. . .
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Post by: Michael on November 15, 2003, 04:20:39 PM
This was posted on ebay a few days ago

(http://i6.ebayimg.com/03/i/00/c7/ae/77_1.JPG)

If you are interested there are two days left!!  Would love to have this one on cd!
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Post by: Jane on November 15, 2003, 04:31:40 PM
TD, I think the picture might have been made a bit too small. I can kind of see the dog, but not the plates.

LOL-my picture is nice and large and I see a baby, not a dog.
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Post by: Jane on November 15, 2003, 04:32:34 PM
TD, I think the picture might have been made a bit too small. I can kind of see the dog, but not the plates.

Well, I changed the picture. . .

explains what I see 8)
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 04:33:18 PM
TD, I think the picture might have been made a bit too small. I can kind of see the dog, but not the plates.

LOL-my picture is nice and large and I see a baby, not a dog.

Well, I c-o-u-l-d make a comment, but, I'll bite my tongue. . .

(You just got struck by the Karma Fairy for that comment, btw).
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 04:33:50 PM
Jane, do you see the dog, now?
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Post by: Jane on November 15, 2003, 04:34:18 PM
Minx Anastasia is beautiful.  We once had a Siberian Husky named Anastasia.
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 04:36:13 PM
Minx Anastasia is beautiful.  We once had a Siberian Husky named Anastasia.

I knew there was a reason that the karma fairy looked fairly on Jane.
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Post by: Michael on November 15, 2003, 04:42:58 PM
Minx Anastasia is beautiful.  We once had a Siberian Husky named Anastasia.

I knew there was a reason that the karma fairy looked fairly on Jane.

Tried to Karma you but I have to wait. The dog is gorgeous. Looking forward to seeing it inperson in the near future
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 04:54:16 PM
Minx Anastasia is beautiful.  We once had a Siberian Husky named Anastasia.

I knew there was a reason that the karma fairy looked fairly on Jane.

Tried to Karma you but I have to wait. The dog is gorgeous. Looking forward to seeing it inperson in the near future

I tried to karma you, too. . . for knowing that, yes, a dog is a person, too. :)
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 04:56:20 PM
I want to move into Ant & Ben's doll houses. . . .
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 05:03:03 PM
Hey, didn't someone the other day mention the new deluxe release of HAIR on cd? Well, whoever, whenever, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! ! ! This is a great collection, which I wouldn't have upgraded to if not for you. . .(Oh, a Bob Dylan reference!)
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Post by: Michael on November 15, 2003, 05:05:05 PM
Hey, didn't someone the other day mention the new deluxe release of HAIR on cd? Well, whoever, whenever, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! ! ! This is a great collection, which I wouldn't have upgraded to if not for you. . .(Oh, a Bob Dylan reference!)

C'est Moi (A robert Goulet reference)
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 05:07:29 PM
Well, MDS, my karma wand is down now, as is yours, or, I'd karma the hell out of you!
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Post by: bk on November 15, 2003, 05:14:02 PM
Needless to say, I am very sad hearing the news of Dorothy's passing.  I'll write about her in tomorrow's notes - as most of you know I'd originally asked her to be on the Jeeper's Creepers album (doing Baby Jane) and she'd agreed - two weeks before the sessions she said she couldn't do it - wasn't feeling well enough.  I'm blessed to have known her a little and to have worked with her on some of the last projects she did - we really adored each other, and we dined whenever we could (along with the late Claibe Richardson, who wrote Night of the Hunter - the first time I'd worked with her).  She was a wonderful, wonderful woman.
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Post by: Michael on November 15, 2003, 05:14:32 PM
Regarding the new CD release of HAIR

My only two complaints is that they could have done without the interview. And the bonus tracks could have been put in their proper place instead of telling us how to program them! And really have three. They could have used material from DisHAIRited to fill out the times on the two discs. A wealth of material there.

Also the remastered version of the Broadway cast does it sound better than the first issue?
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Post by: Michael on November 15, 2003, 05:29:59 PM
David Fear is a film critic for the San Francisco Bay Guardian and a lover of all things hi-tech. He still refuses, however, to give up his Betamax tapes.

Wrote the following article I saw on MSN. Do you agree? Disagree with choices? What's missing?  I would like to add Lion King with the special sound mix for home viewing and Finding Nemo is not bad either.

10. Fight Club (1999)—David Fincher's dark tale of modern-day malaise, mayhem and masculinity not only looks great on a big TV, it has plenty of deep blacks and moldy greens that will highlight your screen's ability to produce theater-quality color. The sound of all those blows connecting and bones cracking may sound a tad too realistic, but skipping ahead to the plane crash sequence will amply showcase your sound system capabilities.


9. Heat (1995)—With its stunning widescreen palette of cool blues and steely grays, this Michael Mann heist epic is a picture perfect case study if you want to justify buying a top-notch 16:9 ratio plasma screen. As for the sound, well... when a salesman was demonstrating my speaker's horsepower to me in the showroom, he threw on the DVD and jumped straight to the scene where the cops and criminals break out the heavy artillery on the streets of L.A. and had a sale on the spot. Just be sure to turn it down once Pacino starts yelling or you risk blowing your tweeters out!


8. Saving Private Ryan (1999)—Yes, Steven Spielberg's WWII epic does get a little heavy-handed in places, but those first 20 minutes—when platoons storm the beaches on D-Day in what may be the most realistic depiction of warfare in an American film—are the reason you spend five figures on a home theater. The Special Limited Edition DVD also boasts a "C-Reality" digital transfer process, insuring that viewers will get the highest quality home viewing experience around.


7. Jurassic Park (1993)—Have any loose molars you need to shake out of your skull? The now-classic scene where the T-Rex attacks the car our heroes are stranded in should do the trick. Simply put, few things sound scarier or more awe-inspiring on a quality surround system. Best of all is the gradual buildup of its arrival, signaled by far-off thumping and reverberating water glasses, which seems custom-made for testing your audio setup's depth and range.


6. Gladiator (2000)—Ridley Scott not only brought back the big budget sword-and-sandal genre and netted an Oscar for it, he made sure that the DVD would also capture every recreated Roman façade and every clink of steel weaponry exactly as it was meant to be seen and heard. The result is a jaw-droppingly precise transfer that is nothing short of epic, in every sense of the word, from its opening "unleashing" of hell to the final showdown. Are you not entertained? Yes, frankly, we're downright amazed!


5. Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)—It wasn't enough that this blockbuster dazzled the world by introducing computer generated imagery (CGI) via its liquidized villain. No, the exception to the rule that sequels are never as good as their predecessors also had to set the standard for what most DVDs should look like thanks to the high-definition digital telecine transfer it gets in its latest incarnation (entitled "T2—Extreme DVD"). Watching Robert Patrick morph from robot to "human" and back again on your big screen is reminiscent of the first time you tasted ice cream. James Cameron, we salute you.


4. Apocalypse Now (1979)—Whether you prefer the extra-crispy "Redux" version or the original recipe, Francis Ford Coppola's vision of Vietnam as a Bosch painting is a flat-out masterpiece. He was helped greatly, of course, by the legendary sound editor Walter Murch, who virtually broke down the boundaries of using sound creatively in a feature film. Mix Master Murch's work is a must-hear for home sound systems, especially the opening (dig that copter sound on the ceiling fan) to the crème de la crème of chopper attacks, the Wagnerian (literally!) helicopter sequence where voice transmissions seem to be coming out every corner of your living room. Note: Redux's visual quality is a bit better than the original's DVD released several years back.


3. The Matrix (1999)—Anyone who's marveled at the film's bullet-time effects on a big screen won't feel cheated by seeing them on a big-screen TV at home—the utmost care went into the transfer here and though it doesn't improve Keanu Reeves' acting ability any, the revolutionary special effects will make your visual display system look like a million bucks regardless of the original price tag. For testing sound quality, flip forward to that helicopter crash in the third act and watch your guests begin to drool with envy. It doesn't matter whether you take the red pill and get the standard DVD, or opt for the blue pill in the form of deluxe two-disc set. Quality is great on both.


2. Toy Story 2 (1999)—A home theater enthusiast friend of mine swore by this movie as one of the best screen/surround system movies to watch, and I have to admit I was skeptical until he threw the disk on one night for me. The opening scene, where Buzz Lightyear fights his evil nemesis in "outer space" (actually a video game of his exploits) had my jaw on the floor: Pixar's digital animation transfer (enhanced for 16:9 TVs) produces some of the cleanest lines and most vibrant colors you'll ever see, and the sound of Buzz whooshing by in THX-certified sound will take you to infinity and beyond. The fan favorite "Ultimate Toy Box" three-disc set is currently out of print, but try to hunt down a copy if you can.


1. Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Rings (2001)—One of the best films of the last few years is, hands-down, the DVD that writes the book on home theater bell-ringing and whistle-blowing. The opening ten minutes will have you convinced that an orc battle is happening in your house. The battle with the cave troll has such incredible audio fidelity that it will have you ducking imaginary debris. And the climactic battle... visually and sound-wise, there is one to rule them all and in your screening room darkness bind them, and it is this one. If you can't wait for the inevitable box set that will include all three films sometime next year, invest in the Platinum Series edition. It's worth its weight in elven gold.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 05:44:49 PM
All things are relative, I suppose.  I have a nice surround system (not five figures, though) with DTS receiver and DVD player.  

Of the films he rates, I'd roger up and say a huge AYE for his #1 and #7, both of which I have in DTS.  
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 05:49:13 PM
I'll add my sorrow to the group's for the passing of Dorothy Loudon.

I treasure her performance on the Evening with Sondheim DVD (Losing My Mind/You Could Drive A Person Crazy).
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Post by: Danise on November 15, 2003, 05:53:10 PM
Good Evening all!  

I am tired, tired, tired.  The computer show was fun but had old software for the most part.  I couldn't get  Photopaint Elements like I wanted to.  

Still it wasn't a total loss.  I bought this and that.  Not to be confused with that and this.  My best buy of the day was a new kind of handheld mouse.  It's really cool and feels good to my hand.  

I can now sit back in my chair and surf the net without having to hunch over the trackball.

I was tempted to buy that  Dragon Speak software.  I watched the display for a long time.  It would be cool to be able to sit here and talk instead of type but I wasn't 100% sure it would work for me the way it did for the guy who was showing it.

The same with most of the hardware.  They had the new flat screen monitors--17" for about $350.00 which isn't a bad price.  Still if you have a problem with it.... where do you take it to return it if they are from the other side of the state and only come to town every 3 months or so?  You could mail it but I can't see shelling out the postage.

I don't think I would make any major purchase, like a computer system, printer, etc, etc at one of those shows but I guess I could be wrong.  Other people certainly didn't seem have a problem with it.

Thank you, Karma fairy.  I just noticed my number has grown again.

Gotta run--I have some new(to me)/old software to try.  Isn't it amazing how the hot new game of today is on the sale table tomorrow?  The're still just as fun to someone who's never played them before.  It's kinda sad in a way.

Have a nice night all.  

D

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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 05:57:28 PM
I just read Mr Valley's post and .... whoever thinks BB, as in Brent Barrett, and NOT Brigitte Bardot, is a tenor is wrong; we all know BB is a baritone...

That person should also listen to Mr Warlow to widen his appreciation.....

I have no idea whether you are being tongue-in-cheek or what,  François!   ;D

Brent Barrett IS a tenor, or he's under some misperception that he is since he's a member of Broadway Tenors.  But he does have a lovely baritone.

Of course, Anthony Warlow is an incredible tenor with an enormous range.  Just to hear him sing "Some Enchanted Evening", one would think him a baritone.

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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 05:58:39 PM
I'm missing #s 9, 5 ad 4, for various reasons:  Don't like Michael Mann as a director, haven't found the upgrade of T2 yet at my used dvd connections and Paramount initially overpriced both REDUX and the original to keep me from grabbing them up.
If this was a recent article, one does have to wonder about the lack of NEMO and LION KING, though.  The latter for its souped up home theater mix alone should land it on must-have dvd lists everywhere.
I just double-dipped on a WB title, JFK, which I still find to be as absorbing as it was the first night I saw it on a big, enormous, (bigger than twelve inch) screen.

What dvd titles have other Dear Readers double dipped on, on why?

I double-dipped on JFK for the new materials on the bonus disc, notable a ninety minute feature on the repercussions, and the conspiracies of JFK.
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Post by: Jennifer on November 15, 2003, 06:10:33 PM
Okay I have not been able to catch up on all the posts. Maybe tomorrow.

DR Maya mentioned saving movie ticket stubs. I'm curious. What do movie ticket stubs look like? Here we just have pieces of paper (like a receipt).

DR Ben wrote about shoes.  I hope all DRs know that I do not collect actual shoes, but rather little 2 inch replicas.

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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 06:11:31 PM
td -- I've done this only once -- and it was to acquire the DTS version of "Jurassic Park II" which I didn't know was available when I bought the non-DTS (and that's the ONLY difference between them) DVD.

I considered doing it on "Saving Private Ryan" only because it infuriated me to learn there was a DTS version that only differed from the collector's edition by virture of being in DTS.  That was when I realized the video companies were all money-grubbing hoes out to soak me, so I've been -- or tried to be -- pretty cautious about what I buy and when.

For instance, I'm still waiting for the ultimate edition of "Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" -- I love this movie and cannot wait to see it, but I want it in DTS sound!

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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 06:17:36 PM
I guess I'm a "collector" of DTS titles, too.  I have to like the movie, though.

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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 06:34:45 PM
Gee, for once I don't "agree" with DR Ron!

If we want to be "technical" I'd say that BB is baritone-Martin: even though he can sing tenor, his color is baritone-Martin.

Same for Anthony Warlow.

Anyway; their voices are gorgeous...
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 06:39:36 PM
No, no, no!

BB does not sing in TDS tenor!

No! ;D
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Post by: S. Woody White on November 15, 2003, 06:50:44 PM
Re collections: Cookbooks.  Der Brucer is constantly telling me that I don't need any more, and I just as constantly find another to add to my shelves.

I used to collect mugs, but der Brucer discovered they're breakable.
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Post by: Jane on November 15, 2003, 07:02:47 PM
Danise, I believe our mouse can be hand held.  I’m just not coordinated enough to do so.

Thank you for the Karma TD.  I too would like to meet your Anastasia.

Now I’m off to cuddle with my beautiful girl, Echo.  
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Post by: Matt H. on November 15, 2003, 07:24:19 PM
I just read on the internet that DOrothy Loudon died this morning. Very sad to see this. I'm only on page two of the forum today, so sorry if I'm repeating something someone else has already posted.

Saw her in the 1974 revival of THE WOMEN and in SWEENEY TODD. Great, great performer. She could do more takes with a single line than just about any other performer I've ever seen. Amazing woman.
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 07:27:53 PM
Ok! This is NOT my prose, -- so it has to be better! -- and I wanted to share this i've just found in someone's journal on aol.com with DR Ron and... the rest of you bien sûr:

Friday, October 17, 2003
Lollipop!

"ANTHONY WARLOW: Face The Music"

Ok.  This might look like your average everyday CD, but it is, in fact, a lollipop.  I ordered it a few weeks ago and it arrived in the mail yesterday.  In a phenomenal display of self-control, I decided not to listen to it immediately, but instead uploaded the little bugger into my ipod so I'd have a treat for myself as soon as I got my shots today.

And, even though 2 shots ended up turning themselves into a blood test and one shot with an option for more, I figure I more than earned it. I'm pleased to report that both the tetanus shot and the blood test actually hurt substantially less than a good solid kitten scratch. However, it's about twelve hours later and while the tetanus shot arm seems to be pretty much back to normal, the inside of my elbow where the blood was taken is still pretty tender. So, y'know, I figure I'm allowed to sit here sullenly and listen to Anthony Warlow's latest CD.

Here's what you have to know about Anthony Warlow: he has what has got to be one of the top five voices in musical theatre on the planet. For my money, he's number one, but I'm willing to at least consider the possibility there are a handful of others.

Now, I'll be the first to admit that I would have preferred this disc to be more musical theatrey. (I still shudder that I bought something people file away under "Easy Listening.") But the fact of the matter is, he's got one of those voices where he can sing anything, and sing it really, really well. In fact, some tiny twisted part of my brain is kinda glad he's recorded these standards, because I'll never listen to them any other way, and it is sort of rounding out my musical education.

Vocally, he's got a huge range. I've seen plenty of debates over whether he's a baritone or a tenor. He describes himself modestly as a "baritone with a bright top." The "bright top" is light enough to just skim the surface on these swing numbers -- he sings like Torvill & Dean ice dance: crisp, delicate, and impeccably smooth. And, when he lets it out, he's got a rich, warm baritone you could curl up and fall asleep in.

Mmm, better than any candy.

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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 07:35:17 PM
Well, wlajb!

Why don't you "come out and play" instead of lurling most of the time!

As you can see, we're pretty nice people here, aren't we?
Mais oui!
Absolument!
De vrais gentlemans az wee say in France....
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 07:36:55 PM
Oh, no, wlajb! You don't lurl 'cause it's hard to do...

But LURK you sure do!

Turkey Lurkey?
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Post by: Matt H. on November 15, 2003, 07:37:55 PM
I might go ahead and get the FLOWER DRUM SONG revival, DR George. It has closed fairly long ago and was not a success. I suspect it'll go out of print fairly quickly now. Just a theory. I have no idea how those things work. BK, can you shed any light on how companies decide which cast recordings stay in print and which ones don't?

I have a numbered London THE RINK, too. Mine is #588.
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Post by: SwishySarah on November 15, 2003, 07:48:44 PM
I'm back from work. The kid who works there who I know from school, he's being a reaaaal jerk. I think it's because there are a lot of older guys who work there too, and he's trying to be impressive towards me, but he's REALLY bad at it. He's coming off as super (and I mean SUPER)-perverted and moronic, and he's neglecting his work. After he left, two of the older guys came up to me and apologized for his behavior, and said that if he keeps it up, they're saying something to the manager. Now, I have no problems dealing with him, but it's nice to know that they're "on my side", if that makes sense. He's being an idiot. Other than that, however, I really enjoy working there.

I talked to the gorgeous new cook for about an hour, too, since no one came in after 9. It turns out, he's from San Diego, and lived there his whole life until a month ago. He's trying to become a fireman, but he doesn't want to be one here, he wants to go back to CA. He's here for a break from the distractions he had back there, and he said it's changing him in a good way. SUPER nice guy, I'm glad he's working there. Plus, he's beautiful, he plays the guitar, he skates, and he bought me a caramel frap. Perfect! :)

RE DR td's Anastasia: It must be the name, they're all so cute :)!
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Post by: Ben on November 15, 2003, 07:48:51 PM
Jennifer, I knew you don't collect shoes but mini replicas of those shoes. I just saw the word shoes and thought about how difficult it is for me to find shoes.

I guess most of the board is out and about tonight although I see Miss Swishy hanging out and Matt H. I just read some of the Sunday times on-line instead of going to the corner deli to get it. It's chilly and I'm tired so I'll probably wait until tomorrow to get it.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 15, 2003, 07:50:42 PM
I love DTS sound, DR Ron. The difference between the Dolby Digital sound and the DTS sound in GLADIATOR is the difference between night and day. DTS is clearly superior.

I'd agree that the best home theater sound I've ever heard on my system was on LORD OF THE RINGS I.

I was at an early Thanksgiving dinner most of today (which is why I've been E&T since this morning), and after dinner we watched TERMINATOR 3 which I had not seen in the theater. I was disappointed there was no DTS option.

I have doubled dipped on quite a few movies. In fact, I just ordered a used copy of the special edition of THE TERMINATOR this morning since the transfer is anamorphic on this release, and the sound has been tweaked for 5.1.
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Post by: Ben on November 15, 2003, 07:51:43 PM
TD, I think we can find room for you in the house. It's nine rooms with an art studio, a great bathroom and a wonderful kitchen. There is a sunning area on the roof and a swing on the front porch and a big yard for Anastasia.
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Post by: Ben on November 15, 2003, 07:52:41 PM
Oops, that pushed us over to page 6. Unless the left coaster start adding their posts, I don't think we're going to hit 200 today, let alone 300 but we did good this week.
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 08:16:13 PM
TD, I think we can find room for you in the house. It's nine rooms with an art studio, a great bathroom and a wonderful kitchen. There is a sunning area on the roof and a swing on the front porch and a big yard for Anastasia.

Wonderful offer from wonderful, dear readers, but, being six-foot-two, I wouldn't even fit a toe into A DOLL'S HOUSE  (Oh! A Henrik Ibsen reference)!
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Post by: Matt H. on November 15, 2003, 08:17:23 PM
Reminded me of Monica's fancy dollhouse in that famous FRIENDES episode where Phoebe brings ghosts and stuff to put in Monica's dollhouse. Hilarious.

Yours looks even more elaborate and impressive! What a great hobby!
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 08:24:47 PM
Oh, Matt, you certainly won't be disappointed in the transfer to dvd of the first TERMINATOR film. . .I actually watched it late last night.

Oh, well, back to Stone's JFK - - nothing against the film, but, I feel that the entire scene with Mr. X (Donald Sutherland) is unecessarily padded; sure it presents some good points not taken elsewhere in the film, and uses the term "plausible denial," still, adding yet another conspiracy theory detracts from the tale of the man willing to test all his beliefs in a futile courtroom battle. . .
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Post by: TCB on November 15, 2003, 08:26:37 PM

DR TCB - Allison who?  ;D  And you didn't let me know if you wanted Incendiary Blonde on your tape after Betty's interview.


Oh yes, Jrand, yes!  Please!
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Post by: Matt H. on November 15, 2003, 08:38:59 PM
Looking forward to the new TERMINATOR DVD. I really prefer it to either of the sequels, and this new edition should be JUST what the DVD doctor ordered.

I remember going to see JFK on Christmas Eve afternoon the year it came out, and then driving 35 miles to my parents' house for Christmas Eve dinner and present swapping. I was so blown away by the movie that it's all I could talk about that evening. I had the original laserdisc issue of the movie, and I bought the original flipper DVD of JFK and have not re-dipped with it. I was VERY pleased when I redipped on AMADEUS from flipper to new Special Edition. I suspect JFK will look worlds better on the new one, too.
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 08:43:06 PM
I know you will all be excited to know I am back. another Record fair without me purchasing anything. What sort of collector am I? I did come home with a gift from a fellow collector of 60's pop - a John D Loudermilk album.
In answer to a question (!) posed by a Dear Reader" I was NOT singing "Oh Fatherland" or any such patriotic  or jingoistic song as I rode my tricycle.  I thought the photo would be a nice contrast to the rather black of my last childhood photo from the Sunburnt country.
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Post by: Matt H. on November 15, 2003, 08:51:39 PM
Well, I think I'm going to head off for bed. It's almost midnight, not a sound on the pavement (an, ugh!, CATS reference). Hope everyone has a good rest of the evening. Take care, all.
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 08:57:42 PM
I prefer to think of it as amost a T S Eliott quote - then you can remove the "ugh".
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 09:03:27 PM
Greetings, all.  I HAVE posted a few times before.

Been here forever...since the site that dare not speak its name first came online...and followed BK over here on the first day.  

Needless to say, I know more about you than you know about me.  But that may changing.  

And, I don't think I'm over 900 years old...yet.  But didn't know my profile had a boo boo until Francoise mentioned it in the room once.  (but the profile changing was frozen....maybe I should FIX it)  <G>

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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 09:06:37 PM
Mark my words that all sounds familiar. Perhaps we will hear from JB-NY and Robbie as well. As you may have gathered, this a friendly place and the posts don't really have to be in line for a literary prize.
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 09:10:03 PM
Gee...this will take me up to post #2 on the new board.  WHERE ARE MY STARS!!!   Well...my typing goes downhill as the evening extends...but the spirit is willing....may even make "five" posts tonight.  (who knows)  
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Post by: TCB on November 15, 2003, 09:19:48 PM
I just read Mr Valley's post and .... whoever thinks BB, as in Brent Barrett, and NOT Brigitte Bardot, is a tenor is wrong; we all know BB is a baritone...

That person should also listen to Mr Warlow to widen his appreciation.....

I have no idea whether you are being tongue-in-cheek or what,  François!   ;D

Brent Barrett IS a tenor, or he's under some misperception that he is since he's a member of Broadway Tenors.  But he does have a lovely baritone.

Of course, Anthony Warlow is an incredible tenor with an enormous range.  Just to hear him sing "Some Enchanted Evening", one would think him a baritone.


You mean that Brent Barrett can sing, too?
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 09:20:20 PM
I think 50 posts give you a fence wlajb!- particularly if they're strung out.
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 09:22:44 PM
Prepare yourself for the disappointment of no great change at 300 posts TCB.
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 09:23:07 PM
Well, WELCOME (back) WLAJB!

Nice of you to post and join our family!

Now.... us French guys are ... touchy about the spelling of our names!

I'm a he si it's François with NO e at the end!

NBD, no big deal!

Now, I hope divarobbie who's also lurking will join us too!

Ain't that just too too for a saturday night, BK?

BK? Where are you?
Sigh! He's gone!
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on November 15, 2003, 09:27:25 PM
Good evening, folks. It's been a busy day of theater-going for us. Our tickets for a tour and a community theater were both for today. I have nothing else to add to today's topic.
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 09:32:21 PM
sorry....Francois...no slight meant...Hope no insult rendered....Just bad typing.  

Doesn't BK disappear for hours and comes back to berate us for NOT typing?   Hey.....what's with that....<g>  
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 09:34:28 PM
DR Laura. Since when has a day's topic been relevant to the post? What theatre. Did you enjoy the show? The culture starved of Oz and other places are anxious to know. And speaking of bats. A fruit bat (flying fox) incinerated itself on a Power device of some kind on Friday and as a result 200 homes were without power - there were fires in some  and one home was half destroyed. Needless to sat - the bat is far from well. They are beautiful creatures but causing great problems to the trees in Melbourne's botanical gardens.
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 09:37:01 PM
And I was waiting for BK's take on Bette's "Gypsy" take....he promised for today....<sigh>  Which I never found here.  (Though the reading is taking longer.)  After all, this IS the BEST site on the internet for theater, food, friends, theater, food, and the usual trying to type well.
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Post by: SwishySarah on November 15, 2003, 09:38:52 PM
wlajb, I like you already! Welcome to the POSTING side of the cookie jar. What flavor are you?

DR Laura: Every time I see your icon picture, I smile. It's just so out of the ordinary, I love it. :)

TCB: Have I mentioned that you crack me up? Just thought I'd share that. And I LOVED the pictures from the other day (Hello, Dolly!), they were great shots, and the quality was excellent too! You have a very happy-looking face. DR Jose has one too, someone posted a picture of him a few weeks ago (I believe it was Tom), and every time I saw it, I couldn't help but smile. It was infectious. That's what your pictures did to me. Thank you!

And with this, I'm off to sleep. Another 5 hours of running around at work tomorrow! Luckily it's with the gorgeous cook, and not the perverted busboy!
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 09:41:34 PM
Fruit bats?   OMG.   We just had arsonists in los angeles....that burned for weeks.   But at least the rain and snow in the mountains killed all that.  (BAD BATS....BAD BATS)
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 09:43:17 PM
DR Swishy: Jose is so infectious it appears he has been quarantined. Most unseemly but the world of Camelot is not for us mere mortals to understand.
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 09:43:27 PM
tipping Swishy...already.....is $20 too much on a $10 tab?
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 09:45:46 PM
I don't think there was a connection to "Bat Boy" which has finished its season here in Melbourne (a fun show too).
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 09:47:12 PM
Is the book of camelot playable?....Lost track of what edition is out there for performing......
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 09:51:13 PM
thanks for karma....btw
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 09:52:56 PM
Anyone have any opionions on "fields of ambrosia"?  Haven't seen this topic on here.  But "interesting" show"
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 09:54:28 PM
Will the book of Camelot ever be playable - so much there that is wonderful but it always seems so LONG. It never ceases to move me at the end but that may be  the relief that indeed it has finished. At least the cast album is not a chore to listen to - and I still prefer the OBC.
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 09:56:32 PM
The first half hour is wonderous......as is the last.....it's the whole stuff in between.......<G>
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 09:56:56 PM
A timely reminder to relisten to the Cd. I remember thinking that it was interesting when I first listened to it but it has since been buried. Possible it was a victim of having too many Cds arrive in a short period of time.
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 09:58:58 PM
I wish I could get over the nasel aspect of the Josh Logan film....try watching it....and not noticing the nose hairs of the actors.....<G>  (someone told me this years ago....and I've become obbsessed)
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:02:54 PM
BK is gonna bitch slap up for not breaking at least 200.......<sigh>
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 10:03:21 PM
I wish you had not told me that. I hope I forget it by the time next view the show. Were the nasal hairs designed by John Truscott too?
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:05:50 PM
well....he also did the sailors in South Pacific....(with or without the color/thang)....just cut him slack.
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 10:06:34 PM
Well, we are a lively crew, but, where in tarnation is BK? ? ?

Nice to administer some karma point, now that my karma wand is working once again. . .
I must say, it's nice to see (and read) wlajb posting with a couple of adoptees. . .
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:07:49 PM
the film that made me gay.....<blush>....was gentlemen prefer blondes......with the olympic pool guys.......(and I cry for the the poor guy who blew the take)   <G>
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:09:00 PM
ooops....didn't MAKE me gay.....made me wanna be GAY.......<----- covering ass
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 10:10:55 PM
Anything is too much when one tips in the States and one is Canadian.

I got three US pennies once from Canadian gents! -- was a waiter in Florida then, and as such I have never been so humiliated! And they were looking at me from afar as they were leaving to see my reaction...

And to know that we usually are called "maudits Français" in French Quebec was prooven true; i really fely "cursed" at that moment!

Oh I sure did get over it!
One other time i got a $20 tip on a $40 bill; i made sure the gentleman was not make a mistake...

The answer was "No! And you're worth every penny!"

You see; then I sure enjoyed collecting tips!
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Post by: TCB on November 15, 2003, 10:11:01 PM
This will probably mark the end of my posting for the evening.  I am totally exhausted after the choreography rehearsal today, and we only did two of my numbers.  The problem was that The Dead End Kids, sorry Fagin's Gang had completely forgotten all of the choreography they had previously learned for Be Back Soon.  After several painful minutes that resembled an accident on the Santa Monica Freeway, the Gang was banished to the upstairs dance studio to relearn the steps.  As their leader, I was banished, as well.  To make matters worse, the three main children’s parts (Oliver, Dodger, and Charley Bates) are all double-cast. The reasoning for this is that, particularly during the winter months, children tend to be plagued with an assortment of ailments ranging from measles to influenza.  Double casting those leading roles cuts down the need to cancel performances.  In addition, this eliminates another common child actor disease -- temperamental attitude.  Kids think twice about throwing a tantrum when there is another child with equal talent and rehearsal time observing from the front row.  Of course, that means that every section of the dance has to be run twice, once with each set of principals.

After an hour of work, we were called back to work the number on stage, where the kids managed to fall apart all over again.  After approximately another ten to fifteen times through that damn number, we were finally released for the day.  I didn't notice much improvement between the first time and the last, but, at least, I am much more sure of my lyrics for that song.

The Bottom Line:  I will be the first to admit that I am too old and too fat and too out of shape to do one dance number over and over for two hours straight, even with Orson Welles’ dance belt.  

Having said that, I will sign off for the night without having discussed any more of my collections.  I will say only that in addition to the dust bunnies, my only other collection would be any and all things regarding the Titanic.  Wow, Jane, I envy you that original newspaper regarding the sinking of that great ship.  Although, I have a great many newspaper dating back as far as 1900, that is the one paper that I have never been able to find or afford, except in reproductions.  Maybe some day!
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:11:21 PM
hey td...asked earlier about "fields of ambosia"......you have it?
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on November 15, 2003, 10:14:52 PM
We saw Forty-Second Street (lots of really swell dancing!) and a community theater production of "Play It Again, Sam."

Welcome to wlajb. We're glad you are finally posting. Tell us about yourself, please. If you've been reading us long, you already know a lot about each of us.

Oh -- and in the Forty-Second Street playbill, there's a bio of Todd Ellison, who is the music director. He lists among his credits that he has worked with Guy Haines. I got all excited seeing the name of someone I know in a playbill. Well, I don't exactly know Guy Haines. I mean, I've never actually met him. Come to think of it, every time I go to LA, he's always out of town.
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Post by: TCB on November 15, 2003, 10:16:43 PM
the film that made me gay.....<blush>....was gentlemen prefer blondes......with the olympic pool guys.......(and I cry for the the poor guy who blew the take)   <G>

Which guy was take?
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 10:17:53 PM
Sorry for typos!
Was dealing with a phone call at same time at 7:15 am here!
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:18:08 PM
I'm 53.....majored in theater....but gave it up.....in my mid 20's....and in "advertising" in los angeles.....working for the biggest indepentaly owned agency in los angeles......live in west lost ageles.....work in santa monica.....9 blocks from beach.....single....kind "gay"....and oh yes, have a large theater cd/lp collection to get back on today's topic
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Post by: DearReaderLaura on November 15, 2003, 10:18:41 PM
Oh -- and thanks for the nice comment about my picture. And the poor fruit bat that got electricuted! :-(
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:19:23 PM
TCB....his ASS is UP....while everyone ELSES is DOWN.....(the slut)
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Post by: bk on November 15, 2003, 10:20:05 PM
I'm back, I'm back, from my dinner that I had to go to.  I'm commenting on the Midler Gypsy in tomorrow's notes.  

Here's the weirdest thing about Dorothy - An hour before I read here that she'd passed away I'd been chatting away with Todd Ellison, who musical directed the three albums I did with her.  About ten minutes after I read of her passing he called back and was in shock.  To lose her and Claibe in one year - so sad.
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Post by: George on November 15, 2003, 10:20:06 PM
I'm back from having to return a DVD that was due tonight ("Unconditional Love" with Kathy Bates and Rupert Everett.  I haven't watched it...yet.)  ;)

After I dropped off the DVD, I went to the dollar store that's a few doors down from the DVD/video rental place and I bought 3 CDs for $1 each!  (Everything in the store really is one dollar each!)  One of the CDs is not very good at all, so I won't mention it (and it's not theater related).

The second one is the Spanish soundtrack to Disney's "Pocahontas" by Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz.  It's quite good except that in "Just Around the River Bend" the singer (very nice, strong voice) sounds like she's the tiniest bit of a beat behind the orchestra.  She has certain points where the rhythms do meet up, so I think that she's just taking liberties, but it's a little too loose for me.  Otherwise, very good.  I figure, for a buck, why the heck not?

The last CD is "Carmen Sandiego:  Out of This World."  It's co-produced and some of the songs are written by David Yasbek (of The Full Monty) and one of the songs is sung by the late, the great Lynne Thigpen.  For a "children's" CD, it's pretty good.  Most of the songs are cute but in a good, appealing way and the song that Lynne sings, "Back to Chicago," actually sounds like a real song (not one that's supposed to be part of a children's TV program).  And what's best about it is that it also only cost me one dollar!  Score!   ;D
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 10:20:29 PM
hey td...asked earlier about "fields of ambosia"......you have it?

I don't have it, but, I've seen the source film several times.  I like it, and find it hard to hear it as a *musical."
FIELDS OF AMBROSIA does have Christine Andreas and Joel Higgins, so that at least is a bright pairing.
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Post by: TCB on November 15, 2003, 10:20:37 PM
Anything is too much when one tips in the States and one is Canadian.

I got three US pennies once from Canadian gents! -- was a waiter in Florida then, and as such I have never been so humiliated! And they were looking at me from afar as they were leaving to see my reaction...

Oh I sure did get over it!
One other time i got a $20 tip on a $40 bill; i made sure the gentleman was not make a mistake...

The answer was "No! And you're worth every penny!"

What profession were you in then, François?
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 10:22:25 PM
Oh, c'mon, it's easy as a waiter to get a 50% tip. . .if one knows how to keep the customers satisfied - - and coming back for more.
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Post by: bk on November 15, 2003, 10:22:55 PM
Oh, and I'm quite certain we'll pass 200, and that is pretty extraordinary for a Saturday.  What we must try to do is keep the Sunday numbers up, that's where we've really been falling down.  But tomorrow's notes will have lots of things in them - my Dorothy remembrance, my Midler Gypsy thoughts, etc.  I may not post them until the morning as I don't know if I have enough energy to write them tonight.  We'll see.
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 10:22:58 PM
Thank you Laura. I feel so much more informed (and a little jealous) now that I know of your theatrical day.
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:24:03 PM
thanks bk.....will look for the midler notes.....<G>....you get once upon a time in the west yet?
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:25:47 PM
don't think I've ever seen it without full screen.....I'm very HOT to see it......panting....even
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 10:25:50 PM
Hey, if we really P-U-S-H, wlajb can be a full member; while I might attain the next level. . .only 23 more posts for me to go. . .
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 10:27:07 PM
"Tipping" is not part of the Australian way of life - wages are good enough here anyway. We do tip when we have had exceptional help or service - some waiters do give that too I believe td!
TCB Did you consider auditioning for "Wicked"?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 10:27:22 PM
DR JRand53: I've just finished the tape.  Sorry, but other things intervened.  What can I say?  First, Ms. Hayes was a durned sight better in that "Millionaire" than was Tom Drake.  But, the story was very slight...just like the Gale Storm shows.  Boy!  The writing was pretty lame back then.

The car commercials were/are something else entirely.  I'd totally forgotten the lengths they went to -- cars were sold like they were world premier movies, weren't they!

But the piece de resistance -- the tape's raison d'etre -- HAS to be the Dinah Shore version of "See the USA", sung in its entirety.  PRICELESS!!!  Thank you!
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:27:31 PM
thanx td.....but everything in it's time.....and I don't know nothin' about birthin' babies......HONEST
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 10:29:00 PM
Watched "Trading Spaces: British Invasion" -- I HATE TOILE!

Is there any good reason for it in this day and age?

Must designers CONTINUE doing stupid things with it?
(and that British designer was wearing Carnaby Street "mod" in 2003 and looking every bit the cliche I'm guessing he hoped he'd be).

NO MORE TOILE!
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Post by: George on November 15, 2003, 10:29:31 PM
well....he also did the sailors in South Pacific

That quite the personal revelation!  :o  I liked the movie, but I don't need to know the sexual antics of the cast and crew!   ;)
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 10:29:40 PM
well, i suppose i should also state, in view of today's TOD, that I also collect  anything Kristen Bjorn-related. . .
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 10:30:56 PM
well....he also did the sailors in South Pacific

That quite the personal revelation!  :o  I liked the movie, but I don't need to know the sexual antics of the cast and crew!   ;)

That's what some people call gossip, while others call it "entertainment."
I wonder if he also did all the miners in PAINT YOUR WAGON.
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 10:35:00 PM
TCD,

mind in the gutter, as DR Ron dude would say!!!
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:38:25 PM
td....Kristen Bjorn is an autuer......oh yeah....
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Post by: François on November 15, 2003, 10:38:33 PM
TCB, TCB, TCB!

You get me all confused with all your double-entendres, TCB!

Granted, I get confused easily!

Mind in the gutter, as DR Ron would say! ;)
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 10:40:07 PM
DR François:  Exactement!   ;D
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:40:31 PM
love Kristen Bjorn's take on death of saleman.....On a a boat in rio.........and his take take on The Crucible.......in Hungary......<G>
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 10:42:06 PM
By the by, I've been watching "The Stunt Man" in glorious DTS tonight and the film is stunning.

The video is extremely good, but the sound totally blows me away...I've never heard the underscore like this...it has such vitality and adds so much to what's going on.  

DTS FOREVER!!!
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:43:30 PM
love the stunt man
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 10:43:48 PM
Peter O'Toole:

Lawrence of Arabia
Becket
Lord Jim
Lion in Winter
Goodbye, Mr. Chips
The Ruling Class
The Stunt Man


[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Seven reasons why this actor is my favorite of ALL TIME![/move]
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:44:25 PM
has o'toole ever been better?......excpet Lawrence?
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:45:59 PM
Yes....but the stunt man....is the only "ORGINAL" performance
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 10:47:16 PM
Anyone else ever have strange things running through their minds?

Just today, reading some of TCB's comments, I had an image of someone inviting him to a "do" of some kind (a soiree, perhaps) and ending the invite with:

RSVP TCB
Get your answer back to me....

(apologies to Aretha Franklin...)
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 10:49:29 PM
I saw THE STUNT MAN pre-release preceded and followed by a chat with Richard Rush and Steven Railsback.  King's Court Theater in Oakland, PA as part of my *payment* for being one of the ROCKY HORROR live cast members,
Quite a memorable film, with great performances all around.

I'm glad that other dear readers know an auteur when they see one.
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:53:48 PM
it's one of my fav films....td.....and love the del, too
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Post by: George on November 15, 2003, 10:53:49 PM
Good night all.  (http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/schlafen/sleeping-smiley-015.gif)  I'm off to beddy-bye-land...and since I don't have to get up in the morning, except when my bladder needs me to (http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/aktion/action-smiley-082.gif), I'm planning on a lot of sleep.  (http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung0903/schlafen/sleeping-smiley-006.gif)
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 10:54:49 PM
what ever happened to Steven Railsback
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 10:57:05 PM
love Kristen Bjorn's take on death of saleman.....On a a boat in rio.........and his take take on The Crucible.......in Hungary......<G>

We'll just assume that the further north dear readers have seen Bjorn's CAROUSEL set in Montreal. . .and his SOUTH PACIFI re-assigned to the north Atlantic. . .his GRAND HOTEL set in Miami. . .
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 10:57:17 PM
Good news for DR Ron. I shall be absent for a few hours tomorrow - from about 5pm your time until 8pm. Just "ease on down the road" to your 500. An opportunity to say "The Wiz" must be one of the worst musicals I have had the misfortune to pay to endure.
How can you not love Mr O'Toole - in
My Favourite Year" too. I can even forgive "Man Of La Mancha" - it wasn't his fault.
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 10:57:49 PM
what ever happened to Steven Railsback
The last film I saw him in was ED GEIN, he played the title role. . .
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 11:00:58 PM
Bjorn's Grand Hotel....set in Manhatten Beach....is that a colletctor's item?
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Post by: Tomovoz on November 15, 2003, 11:01:22 PM
Good night all. (well evening here). Back tomorrow or for you today or whatever.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 11:01:40 PM
"Ain't There Anyone Here For Love"?

(http://www.moviediva.com/MD_root/MDimages/Copy_of_GPB3.jpg)
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 11:02:49 PM
Maybe we should ask DR Tom about Bjorn's adventures down under. . .I know that Mr. Bjorn knew a BOY FROM OZ. . . .
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 11:02:55 PM
People.come.......people go......at the Grand Hotle.......
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 11:03:49 PM
Somehow, DR Ron, the skin-colored gym shorts aren't quite as provocative in black and white. . .
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Post by: td on November 15, 2003, 11:06:26 PM
. . .and with all those thoughts about the above posts running around in my head, I'll follow the other dear readers who have toddled off to bed. . .
Goodnight, all. . .
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 11:08:32 PM
Ron....you made me GAY again<G>
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 11:12:08 PM
Again?  You mean it comes and goes????

Impossible, I think.

Perhaps you suddenly went gay on the Champs Elysees?

Or perhaps you found you were gay on the Rue de la Pays?

But surely I wasn't there.
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 11:13:05 PM
I was never in Paris.

I was in Turkey, though.

Perhaps I was being preposterous on the Bosporus at the time.
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Post by: wlajb on November 15, 2003, 11:13:20 PM
Is BK watching....DVDs....or out on on town tonight?
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 11:13:49 PM
Oh...perhaps you're wondering why I think it was Paris?

Because Dorothy and Lorelie were on their way to France, Europe!
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Post by: Craig on November 15, 2003, 11:15:11 PM
A new Double Entry Of Juliana's Journal was just uploaded.....  it's time for me to crash into bed now...
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 11:18:05 PM
Ouch.  Do try to steer yourself safely under the covers!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on November 15, 2003, 11:19:49 PM
Actually, I'd like to call it a night, too.

It's been a long day (Oh! A you-know-what reference.)

The sandman has come a knockin' and I'm ready to start rockin'!

Nitol!