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« Reply #60 on: July 10, 2008, 08:01:33 AM »

Jrand, I will be most curious to hear how opening night goes! Break a leg!!!! Or several....but not literally, unless you have to.
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« Reply #61 on: July 10, 2008, 08:09:23 AM »

DOCTOR DOLITTLE

Eddie Murphy ;D

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« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2008, 08:14:46 AM »

TOD:

"The Egyptian" (1954-20th-Fox)

"Meet Joe Black" (1998-Universal)

"Hello, Dolly!" (1969-20th-Fox)










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« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2008, 08:16:07 AM »

For din-din last night, I had a hamburger on a kaiser roll with lettuce, tomator and mayonnaise, and a side of Bush's Grillin' Beans (Southern Barbecue Pit).
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« Reply #64 on: July 10, 2008, 08:16:30 AM »

This morning, I broke my fast with a cheese omelet and bacon.  Yum.
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« Reply #65 on: July 10, 2008, 08:19:18 AM »

The hot spell is about to break, mercifully.  We should have temps about 10 degrees cooler in Oakland today.

I still slept with A/C "on" in my bedroom.

I watched "The Ritz" on DVD last night.  I enjoyed it despite the heat in the condo living room.  

I don't even want to think what my next electric bill will look like.
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« Reply #66 on: July 10, 2008, 08:20:09 AM »

Eddie Murphy ;D

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Wrong one.  Rex Harrison, Samantha Eggar and Anthony Newley!
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« Reply #67 on: July 10, 2008, 08:22:36 AM »

My thanks to DR MBarnum for posting the link to www.oldies.com yesterday and to DR George for pointing out that incredible BUY of DVD iterary classics!
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« Reply #68 on: July 10, 2008, 08:23:26 AM »

Can it really be one week since I met up with DR singdaw and his DP Jayson?

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« Reply #69 on: July 10, 2008, 08:28:21 AM »

Eddie Murphy ;D

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Uh, . . . no!

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P.S. Murphy's version wasn't a bomb at the box-office.
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« Reply #70 on: July 10, 2008, 08:29:24 AM »

Heading down now to clean up before heading out to lunch with friends.

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« Reply #71 on: July 10, 2008, 08:34:37 AM »

DR singdaw!

I have been over the past week's posts by you, and I'm experiencing a "gap", I tell you, a "gap".

After all the wonderful accounts of one-week-ago-today, there's nothing about your full day as a married person in the City of San Francisco (i.e., July 4th) other than a hint that you "might" take in a spa and that the fireworks were a non-event due to fog.

What happened on that wonderful day after?  Be honest, now!  If you and Jayson simply lolled en suite and ordered room service, I know we would all understand and be envious.

But we want to know!

Respectfully,

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« Reply #72 on: July 10, 2008, 08:39:09 AM »

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« Reply #73 on: July 10, 2008, 08:45:01 AM »

Sorry, B.K., but I not only hate the ending of A.I., I HATE the entire movie.  Another of Spielberg's self-indulgent, treacly, undisciplined, inflated paeans to boyhood.  Worse than HOOK.  A load of bollocks!  

Personally, I don't think the story would have been any better in Kubrick's hands, whose latter films can't touch his early work like PATHS OF GLORY & SPARTACUS (probably because he had Kirk Douglas to rein in his indulgences).
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« Reply #74 on: July 10, 2008, 08:50:01 AM »

I was recently asked to name my favourite eighties movies.  There were several neglected classics among them:

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http://copiousnotes.typepad.com/weblog/2008/06/elaborating-on-80's-movies.html
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« Reply #75 on: July 10, 2008, 08:53:15 AM »

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« Reply #76 on: July 10, 2008, 09:16:38 AM »

We who like A.I. are in the minority, there is no doubt about it.  Like all films, they speak to who they speak to.  But at least Pogue doesn't like any of it - whereas my bafflement comes from people who don't like just the last twenty minutes but like what's preceded it - although, as I said, in the last couple of years some of those folks have come around to it.  And I think when the film comes out on Blu-Ray some will watch it again and like it better.
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« Reply #77 on: July 10, 2008, 09:16:56 AM »

LA TIMES BOOK REVIEW

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'THE DUMBEST GENERATION' BY MARK BAUERLEIN

How dumb are we? Thanks to the Internet, dumb and dumber, this author writes.
By Lee Drutman
Special to The Times

July 5, 2008

In the four minutes it probably takes to read this review, you will have logged exactly half the time the average 15- to 24-year-old now spends reading each day. That is, if you even bother to finish. If you are perusing this on the Internet, the big block of text below probably seems daunting, maybe even boring. Who has the time? Besides, one of your Facebook friends might have just posted a status update!

Such is the kind of recklessly distracted impatience that makes Mark Bauerlein fear for his country. "As of 2008," the 49-year-old professor of English at Emory University writes in "The Dumbest Generation," "the intellectual future of the United States looks dim."

The way Bauerlein sees it, something new and disastrous has happened to America's youth with the arrival of the instant gratification go-go-go digital age. The result is, essentially, a collective loss of context and history, a neglect of "enduring ideas and conflicts."

Survey after painstakingly recounted survey reveals what most of us already suspect: that America's youth know virtually nothing about history and politics. And no wonder. They have developed a "brazen disregard of books and reading."

The problem is that instead of using the Web to learn about the wide world, young people instead mostly use it to gossip about each other and follow pop culture, relentlessly keeping up with the ever-shifting lingua franca of being cool in school. The two most popular websites by far among students are Facebook and MySpace. "Social life is a powerful temptation," Bauerlein explains, "and most teenagers feel the pain of missing out."

Bauerlein also frets about the nature of the Internet itself, where people "seek out what they already hope to find, and they want it fast and free, with a minimum of effort." In entering a world where nobody ever has to stick with anything that bores or challenges them, "going online habituates them to juvenile mental habits."

And all this feeds on itself. Increasingly disconnected from the "adult" world of tradition, culture, history, context and the ability to sit down for more than five minutes with a book, today's digital generation is becoming insulated in its own stultifying cocoon of bad spelling, civic illiteracy and endless postings that hopelessly confuse triviality with transcendence.


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« Reply #78 on: July 10, 2008, 09:17:00 AM »

Looks like a nice day out.
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« Reply #79 on: July 10, 2008, 09:18:41 AM »

Of course, there are several films on Pogue's best of 80s list that I don't like at all, so that's what makes horse racing.
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« Reply #80 on: July 10, 2008, 09:27:19 AM »

I guess I'll try to jog this morning - too groggy right now and I don't want to do it too close to my eleven o'clock phoner, so I'd have to do it right at ten or just before - or directly after, depending on how long it takes.
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« Reply #81 on: July 10, 2008, 09:31:32 AM »

I didn't like A.I. but I especially hated the ending. Blu-ray or not, I will never, ever watch that film again. My blood curcles just thinking about the time I squandered on it the first go round. It was one of those times I left the theatre actually angry and furious at a film's rank sentimentality and for the blatant, cheap attempt to manipulate me. I'd say it is one of my most despised films of the last ten years. Did I mention I also found it flatulent?  

Okay, BK, turn-abouts fair play.  Which ones on my 80's list don't you like?  I pretty much knew there would be controversy about it.  You'll notice I also don't include the revered Spielberg film E.T. on my favourite 80's.  I don't despise E.T. like I do A.I. (what is it with Spielberg and all this initial crap?), but I pretty much find it a sort of "ho-hum, who cares"?  Except for occasional snatches playing remote roulette, I've never watched it again since the first go-round.  I just don't see childhood with the same rosy mystique and yearning that he does.
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« Reply #82 on: July 10, 2008, 09:32:42 AM »

Interesting demograhics, DR dB!  Thanks.   :)
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« Reply #83 on: July 10, 2008, 09:39:46 AM »

That's kind of sad, DR Pogue.  No one's childhood is ever rosy, and I don't expect Elliott thought his lot in life was rosy, either, what with his folks being divorced and all.  I reckon it's more Spielberg's take on "fantasy" that you don't cotton to.

Personally, I found "E.T." a refreshing break from spacy odyssey adventures but with a positive, yes-there-is-life-out-there attitude and a touching story arc about a boy being a boy, at first, taking in a critter, and then learning that his critter is, in fact, sentient, although Elliott would not have known the word.

We all have our limits, though, as to what we'll swallow and what we won't.  I've more than made up for your dislike of the film -- and practically anyone else on this forum, even if it's everyone -- in the number of viewings of it I've logged!

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« Reply #84 on: July 10, 2008, 09:40:07 AM »

I hated Flesh + Blood so much, I finally shut it off - but then again, outside of his first couple of Dutch films, I hate Paul Verhoeven's films with a passion - as much loathing as you have for Spielberg and A.I.

Blood Simple - I thought it was okay, but nowhere near as good as Raising Arizona, which I think is the Coen's best film.

Crimes of Passion - Quirky, absolutely.  And good performances.  But, not a film I ever need to see again.

The two we agree on completely are Body Heat and The Fly.
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« Reply #85 on: July 10, 2008, 09:43:48 AM »

It's not that I dislike E.T., Ron, I just never found it the second coming of Christ like so many others and have never found any compelling reason to re-watch it.  I think I even have a copy of the film on tape (my wife's doing, I suspect); but there are so many other things I rather see or rather see again.

Actually, my favourite Spielberg film is CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, but I don't re-watch that either.  The ones I usually watch over and over are the thirties and forties ones.
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« Reply #86 on: July 10, 2008, 09:49:18 AM »

But we want to know!

Well, I am having another hellish day at the office. and the forecast for tomorrow is likewise.  So what the heck...

I never posted this because I didn't think it was that interesting.  

On July 4th, we did indeed splurge on a morning at the spa: manicures, pedicures, and massages all around!  :)   In the afternoon we ambled in Golden Gate Park and took in the locals and the lovely scenery.  In the early evening, we partook of two services in two different synagogues in two different parts of the city, both in architecturally magnificent buildings.  We then had dinner in our hotel room and collapsed on the early side, as we had an EARLY departure the following morning.

And that's the whole story!  Aren't you sorry you asked?    :)
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« Reply #87 on: July 10, 2008, 09:50:53 AM »

Interesting demograhics, DR dB!  Thanks.   :)


I wonder, though, how much of this falls into the "Chicken Little" syndrome.

Before Facebook and youtube there was the telephone.  Not the cell variety, either.

And the telephones were in teen bedrooms and the teens were on them constantly.

I went to school in the 1960s with teens who had their own telephone book listings.  You'd look up, oh, say, the name "Adams".  I had a cousin named Adams -- Cecil.  His wife's name was Jean.  Their kids were Johnny and Jerry.  You looked up "Adams, Cecil" and there, under his name and indented, were his kid's "Adams, Johnny" and "Adams, Jerry".

These entries were similar to others in the city, including many classmates.

Even "Bye, Bye Birdie" provided us with a more-than-accurate parody of post-school telephoning in the late 1950s in "The Telephone Hour" number.

I know the computer age has taken more kids off the streets (and out of their cars) than was true in previous generations.  I now that the MTV mentality has given younger folks shorter attention spans and a great deal of impatience with sentence structure, spelling and writing syle.

On the other hand, they've developed rather sophisticated ways of shorthanding their thoughts and feelings.  We don't have to approve, I know.  But the future is theirs, not ours.

I would love to see more kids involved in reading programs at younger -- pre-computer-using and cell-phone-using -- ages.  I know things look bleak, but I'm hopeful there are compensations that are not being taken into account.
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« Reply #88 on: July 10, 2008, 09:51:21 AM »

I have been over the past week's posts by you

My sincerest condolences.     8)
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« Reply #89 on: July 10, 2008, 09:51:49 AM »

Dast I admit that I have never seen the movie E.T.?
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