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Re:THE MAN WHO INVENTED TAFFY
« Reply #60 on: September 18, 2008, 08:35:17 AM »

re: me asking about a restaurant having a $$ charge for bringing your own cake. I agree i should have asked.

But this is not a fancy restaurant. Not at all. And we've brought cakes to plenty of restaurants in the area that are actually fancier.
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« Reply #61 on: September 18, 2008, 08:37:10 AM »

Ron P - I couldn't agree more with your assessment of the economic situation.   I have been amazed at the loans that banks etc have given out to people who clearly can't afford them.  When I bought my house, I got something in my price range and couldn't imagine doing anything but a fixed rate traditional mortgage and when some of the other forms of mortgages were proposed and I questioned why anyone would want them with the problems they could cause down the road,  the loan officer just smiled and said, "Some people don't think about that" or something like that.  

I don't have any sympathy for the banks that made these stupid loans to satisfy their own greed or, and I don't mean to be cold or offend anyone, but I don't have a lot of sympathy for someone making $45,000 who thinks they can buy a $300,000 house.  Hello. Those numbers don't add up and they never did.

Musings/Ramblings on this issue:

I do think it goes beyond the average joe, or jane, who needs a place to live.  In the marketplace where I live, the "average" price of a single family home (1 child) one year ago was $550,000.  The average median income was $42,000, or thereabouts.  I've often wondered why no one ever asks where those average people were/are expected to live.  The fact is, if they didn't already own homes before the prices went up, they probably won't be moving to the Bay area.  But considerable numbers were here and stay here.

I know that the housing markets nationwide accelerated wildly in 1990 or thereabouts.  It was called a "correction" and is still referred to in those terms.   I still find it odd that houses that were built for, say, $75,000 in early 1990 were corrected to a value, of say, $250,000 by the end of the year.  That means a whole lot of correcting was going on in terms of cost of materials, labor, land cost, etc.

Unfortunate, then, that only the owner of the house profited.   Certainly, then as now, the men who built the house have not appreciated nearly as high a correction on their take-home pay.  They can build the houses but then can't afford to live in them.

Now I know it's a whole different story for those who bought before the "correction."  Suddenly, in various parts of the country (not everywhere, I know), folks found themselves sitting in homes assessed at a value 5-7 times what they paid.  That's a financial security blanket that many folks have enjoyed.  Some sold and moved on, almost always to a less-expensive area where their cashed-in equity has vastly improved their quality of living.

But (and there's always a "but" as I am sure you are aware), the truth is that there are a lot of folks out there robbing Peter to pay Paul.  And Peter has gotten pissed and put a hit on Paul.

What is truly troublesome about all of this is who allowed it all to happen and who was standing at the doors of those homes approving the loans.  

Local news story today on a housing blight said there are tens of thousands of homes out there owned by the institutions that recently failed and that there is now concern that the properties will sit untended, unoccupied and potentially vandalized.

Ramblings exeunt....
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« Reply #62 on: September 18, 2008, 08:41:35 AM »

Candy--can't remember the brand name, I think it was Royal something (I remember it had a crown on the packaging), but we used to get these yummy Sour Cherry hard candies in Seattle and up in Vancouver B.C. when I was a kid.  Pucker-mouthed good!
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« Reply #63 on: September 18, 2008, 08:43:24 AM »

Ron P - I couldn't agree more with your assessment of the economic situation.   I have been amazed at the loans that banks etc have given out to people who clearly can't afford them.  When I bought my house, I got something in my price range and couldn't imagine doing anything but a fixed rate traditional mortgage and when some of the other forms of mortgages were proposed and I questioned why anyone would want them with the problems they could cause down the road,  the loan officer just smiled and said, "Some people don't think about that" or something like that.  

I don't have any sympathy for the banks that made these stupid loans to satisfy their own greed or, and I don't mean to be cold or offend anyone, but I don't have a lot of sympathy for someone making $45,000 who thinks they can buy a $300,000 house.  Hello. Those numbers don't add up and they never did.

Except we are all suffering now because of their mistakes, some terribly.

I remember during one of our moves we applied for a pre-approval for a home loan.  It came through for far more than we could afford based on "future" income.  We never understood that-heck a job is never totally secure, let alone raises.  We had no idea how they came up with that figure.  Fortunately we knew better than to get in over our heads.
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« Reply #64 on: September 18, 2008, 08:47:59 AM »

BTW, I read that Obama did an interview in the past few days and said he won't propose to change Don't Ask Don't Tell alone, that the military would have to want to do that. And that he won't propose legislation to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act.  That's up to Congress.   Interesting

Hmmm, I thought I read that a long while back.  Maybe old news is new news again  ;D
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« Reply #65 on: September 18, 2008, 08:50:23 AM »

Good Morning, once again...

...As I just posted on my Facebook profile...  I almost wept openly in front of the Van Gogh's this morning at MoMA. A truly wonderful exhibit, and I shall definitely be heading back there on Saturday, the last day of Member Previews. It was already a bit crowded this morning, and I can't imagine what it will be like once the exhibit officially opens on Sunday.
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« Reply #66 on: September 18, 2008, 08:50:40 AM »

And the word of the day is: LIMPET!


Incredible, Mr!
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« Reply #67 on: September 18, 2008, 08:51:35 AM »

This might be of interest to someone, somewhere  ;D

Jersey Men

It would be of interest to me if my name were in the press release.  Time for an e-mail :)
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« Reply #68 on: September 18, 2008, 08:52:20 AM »

One news agency this morning is reporting that Brad Pitt has donated $100,000 toward the defeat of the gay marriage ban initiative in California.

Money well-spent.
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« Reply #69 on: September 18, 2008, 08:56:28 AM »

re: me asking about a restaurant having a $$ charge for bringing your own cake. I agree i should have asked.

But this is not a fancy restaurant. Not at all. And we've brought cakes to plenty of restaurants in the area that are actually fancier.

From what you said, in this case, you didn't know anyway there would be a cake.  

I remember my surprise the first time I was informed there was a charge to cut the cake.  I always asked before taking one as many restaurants had their own cakes, or special birthday desserts, on the menu.  Often it was the less fancy places that did special birthday cakes & desserts.
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« Reply #70 on: September 18, 2008, 08:57:39 AM »

One news agency this morning is reporting that Brad Pitt has donated $100,000 toward the defeat of the gay marriage ban initiative in California.

Money well-spent.

Didn't DR Nursie post that last night?
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« Reply #71 on: September 18, 2008, 09:04:47 AM »

One news agency this morning is reporting that Brad Pitt has donated $100,000 toward the defeat of the gay marriage ban initiative in California.

Money well-spent.

You missed my post yesterday at 06:12:58pm ;)
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« Reply #72 on: September 18, 2008, 09:05:15 AM »

Didn't DR Nursie post that last night?

 ;D ;D Yes I did.
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« Reply #73 on: September 18, 2008, 09:14:38 AM »

I don't know from last night's posts.  I have not caught up.  I am in the now right now and not caught up.

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« Reply #74 on: September 18, 2008, 09:14:58 AM »

der Brucer & Matt H,  thanks for the BONES info.  Maybe I’ll save it & watch without Keith or we will watch together & speed through the dog pictures.
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« Reply #75 on: September 18, 2008, 09:15:34 AM »

 ;D DR Ron.
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« Reply #76 on: September 18, 2008, 09:15:58 AM »

DR FJL, is Skip feeling better today?
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« Reply #77 on: September 18, 2008, 09:30:19 AM »

Oh, golly, and I didn't even get started on what your money buys when you pay $550,000 for a home in the Bay Area.

Some of you may watch House Hunters on HGTV.  Occasionally, someone is looking for something in  San Francisco (or environs).  You can get 800 square feet of condo space for about $450,000 in the City of San Francisco...if you can find a unit available.

The same amount of money in Johnston SC will buy you 4,000 square feet of house on about 10 acres of land.
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« Reply #78 on: September 18, 2008, 09:31:28 AM »

;D DR Ron.

I have now caught up.  I am not only in the now but in the before now.

Not one person commented upon your post, either.  

That's very unusual among "this" group of people, I'd say.
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« Reply #79 on: September 18, 2008, 09:37:19 AM »

I gotta tell you.  I'm still groggy.
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« Reply #80 on: September 18, 2008, 09:37:53 AM »

But soon I must joggy because lunch is at noon, which is not so far away.
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« Reply #81 on: September 18, 2008, 09:43:16 AM »

DR Ron, I guess everyone agreed with me, it was nice of him to make the donation.  :)
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« Reply #82 on: September 18, 2008, 09:55:17 AM »

Favorite candies growing up?

M&Ms
Three Musketeers
Tootsie Rolls

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« Reply #83 on: September 18, 2008, 09:58:10 AM »

I have now caught up.  I am not only in the now but in the before now.

Not one person commented upon your post, either.  

That's very unusual among "this" group of people, I'd say.

Maybe it's because when I read it it was this morning?
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« Reply #84 on: September 18, 2008, 10:00:23 AM »

Oh, golly, and I didn't even get started on what your money buys when you pay $550,000 for a home in the Bay Area.

Some of you may watch House Hunters on HGTV.  Occasionally, someone is looking for something in  San Francisco (or environs).  You can get 800 square feet of condo space for about $450,000 in the City of San Francisco...if you can find a unit available.

The same amount of money in Johnston SC will buy you 4,000 square feet of house on about 10 acres of land.

$550,000 in Sioux City.....wow! We have been named one of the most affordable places to live. Let's just say I could buy my house 3 times and still have money to totally remodel the whole thing.
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« Reply #85 on: September 18, 2008, 10:01:54 AM »

I just did 3+ miles on a recumbent bicycle at the gym, motivated to peddle through the television where Sarah Palin was speaking.  :)
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« Reply #86 on: September 18, 2008, 10:05:08 AM »

Skip is indeed getting better.

But it still seems like another day of doing all the dog-walking in the midst of tax work.  And since I can't walk two dogs at a time, it sometimes means first walking Toby and then walking Dylan.  Skip seems to enjoy doing the dog-walking when he's able to do it (which is 99% of the time); I see it as a necessary chore for all they bring us.
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« Reply #87 on: September 18, 2008, 10:05:45 AM »

I need a new attitude
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« Reply #88 on: September 18, 2008, 10:06:16 AM »

Counting the minutes until singdaw posts a foto of Patti Labelle
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« Reply #89 on: September 18, 2008, 10:07:13 AM »

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The study compared the average value of 2,200-square-foot houses with four bedrooms, two and a half baths, a family room and a two-car garage across 315 U.S. markets.


Ok, here's what the Coldwell Banker study looked at.  In Sioux City the average cost of this home is  $134,000. It was the most affordable place to live.  
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