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Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
« Reply #120 on: February 07, 2005, 01:31:18 PM »

Our recent TV viewing has deviated a little from our standard fare of Science Channel, SciFi monster-movie-of-the-week, slashers, sf, LotR, and Bond.  (The choised are usually Joe's.)

I'm in the middle of reading The Berlin Stories, so I prevailed upon J to watch Cabaret when it was on the other night.  I love all the variations on Isherwood's book, even though they vary immensely.  Actually, there are only two novellas in the book, "The Last of Mr. Norris", about a British con-man he met in Berlin, and "Goodbye Berlin", about Sally.  Even the name of Isherwood's character goes from William in the first to Christopher in the second.  (And Cliff and Brian in Cabaret!)  The one connecting tissue is Frau Schneider, the landlady, a remarkable character.  He says in his intro that he went back and visited her after the War, but he doesn't say anything about what happened to "Sally".  Except to mention that Julie Harris was more like Sally than the girl he based her on.

What struck me on rewatching the film is that, even though Cabaret is a musical, there is hardly any underscoring of the dialogue.  Only when there is a radio or record on in the background, like "Heiratet", which is "Married" sung in German.  This is in keeping with Fosse's concept of keeping all the music diegesic (sp?).  Couldn't get away with that today!

This is one windy post.  More later.
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Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
« Reply #121 on: February 07, 2005, 01:33:44 PM »

Or like Elvis Presley and Burgess Meredith were Indians in STAY AWAY JOE.
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« Reply #122 on: February 07, 2005, 01:33:55 PM »

Oh I see Ron thought about it-thanks. :P ;D
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« Reply #123 on: February 07, 2005, 01:34:02 PM »

 [size=8]I won't dance.

Don't ask me!
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« Reply #124 on: February 07, 2005, 01:35:08 PM »

Because smoke gets in my eyes.
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« Reply #125 on: February 07, 2005, 01:36:51 PM »

I enjoy all of Christopher Isherwood's books and stories and diaries.  I particularly like DOWN THERE ON A VISIT - that had a great story I used as a monolog (condensed naturally) several times.  Hmmmmmm......trying to remember it.....
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« Reply #126 on: February 07, 2005, 01:37:03 PM »

I caught some of that as well!  I thought it was quite charming.  Unfortunately, DC (Dear Canine, in HHW lingo) Morgan was not enthused about it, and thusly changed the channel.

chuckle, chuckle.  :D
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« Reply #127 on: February 07, 2005, 01:37:19 PM »

Oh I see Ron thought about it-thanks. :P ;D

I think George's response was good....

Blech!
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« Reply #128 on: February 07, 2005, 01:37:31 PM »

I have never seen a Gunga Din movie.

Hoo and Ray! The phone line is fixed!! And it only took about 2.5 hours.
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« Reply #129 on: February 07, 2005, 01:37:33 PM »

DR JOSES is learning all about Apple in a CLASS....imagine!  Wonder if the teacher is Miss Frances or Miss Crabtree?
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« Reply #130 on: February 07, 2005, 01:38:09 PM »

Congratulations on getting your Don Ameche repaired DRLAURA.
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Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
« Reply #131 on: February 07, 2005, 01:39:43 PM »


Bruce have you been to the Norman Rockwell museum in the charming town of Stockbridge Massachusetts?  One incredibly beautiful autumn we visited the town.  We were fortunate to get reservations at the Red Lion Inn, which just happens to have great clam chowder.  We traveled for the leaves and out of curiosity went to the museum.  It was the first time we had seen his original works and were amazed how wonderful they were.


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« Reply #132 on: February 07, 2005, 01:44:18 PM »

And then we saw Holes.

I was surprised that Joe suggested it after reading the brief description in TV Guide.  He usually shies away from anything involving jails or prisons, especially after his horrible experience last year.

And, he admitted to me later, he was tempted to switch the channel several times during the beginning of the movie--it brought back painful memories.  

But we stuck it out, and we were both delighted.  I think what I liked about the weird style of the movie was that it didn't try to be anything but itself, and the author/screenwriter had a very clear vision of what he wanted to do and how.  So many movies we see are a copy of a copy of a copy.  Where is originality?  Must everything be a "reference" (read "ripoff") to another movie?

There were a few hole in Holes that have me wanting to read the book to shore up the relationships between the flashbacks and the present.  But I highly recommend it.  Sigourney Weaver and John Voigt steal it as the villains.

And btw, vixmom, it is supposed to be a children's movie, and it has a minimum of poop jokes, I do believe, and quite a feel-good ending.
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« Reply #133 on: February 07, 2005, 01:45:47 PM »

For my memoribilia, after much thought, I have decided on the first "PEP" or "Archie" Comic where my spiritual twin and hero, Jughead, makes his first appearance.
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« Reply #134 on: February 07, 2005, 01:46:46 PM »

I have now finished the entire LAW & ORDER: CRIMINAL INTENT third season boxed set. It took many days to get through all the episodes and the bonus features.

As for the Warners boxed sets of films, I don't really care what they call the collection as long as we get them. I had no idea ADVISE AND CONSENT was on the horizon.
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« Reply #135 on: February 07, 2005, 01:46:47 PM »

And with that, I must leave the office.

TTFN, all of y'all.
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« Reply #136 on: February 07, 2005, 01:48:08 PM »

Joey Bishop was an Indian like J. Carroll Naish was an Indian in GUESTWARD HO!

My classmate Flip was in the series.  Now i believe he doesn't live far from DR Laura and Sandra.
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« Reply #137 on: February 07, 2005, 01:49:21 PM »

I'm thinking about food.

I had two count them two packages.  Some CDs and a DVD, all from France, and a copy of the Scent of Mystery soundtrack LP which I recently won on eBay.
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« Reply #138 on: February 07, 2005, 01:50:15 PM »

A mere fifteen posts until my new LARGE plateau.
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« Reply #139 on: February 07, 2005, 01:50:36 PM »

One nice thing about November, February, and May sweeps months is that we get new episodes of our favorites series. A new '24' and a new MEDIUM tonight.
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« Reply #140 on: February 07, 2005, 01:50:40 PM »

I haven't visited the Rockwell museum, but will someday.
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« Reply #141 on: February 07, 2005, 01:52:05 PM »

So far, I'm thinkin' tacos or pizza.  

The sun really wants to come out, but the gray sky has seen fit not to let it.  But now the sun has its boxing gloves on and it's trying its hardest.
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« Reply #142 on: February 07, 2005, 01:54:22 PM »

My classmate Flip was in the series.  Now i believe he doesn't live far from DR Laura and Sandra.

I might have posted this next to his photo.  ;D
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« Reply #143 on: February 07, 2005, 01:58:15 PM »

Kerry a Pisaro would be nice to own, however, my item of choice would be an original manuscript of GREAT EXPECTATIONS or DAVID COPPERFIELD.  I would settle for a first printing of either book signed by the author.

WFO please send feel better vibes to Joe.

Bruce you should visit the museum and try to go in the fall, if you can get reservations for a hotel at that time of year.


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« Reply #144 on: February 07, 2005, 02:01:10 PM »

Ron our dinner Saturday night, including the corn bread, was a hit.  Our friends took some of the corn bread home with them.  I ate the remainder for breakfast yesterday, first just cold and plain, and then heated with some butter and sugar.  Our friends said they were going to put honey on top.  I liked it best cold and plain first thing in the morning.
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« Reply #145 on: February 07, 2005, 02:02:03 PM »

What is the link to the Patty Duke story?
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Re:YOU'RE A BETTER MAN THAN I AM, GUNGA DIN
« Reply #146 on: February 07, 2005, 02:02:20 PM »

Maybe Jose got the Beav's teachers, the Misses Canfield and Landers.
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« Reply #147 on: February 07, 2005, 02:02:45 PM »

Corn bread - now there's an idea.  I could just mosey on over to Trader Joe's and get me some corn bread mix.  Hmmm.  Of course, I also have quite a few Entenmann's chocolate donuts left, and I also have some Vanilla Swiss Almond Ice Cream left.  Hmmmm.
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« Reply #148 on: February 07, 2005, 02:10:24 PM »

Flip Mark - wow!  He was also one of the sons with Doris Day in PLEASE DON'T EAT THE DAISIES!
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« Reply #149 on: February 07, 2005, 02:12:29 PM »

Ice Cream, cornbread, and donuts.  The Dinner of Champions.


DRJANE here is the Patty Duke link.  ;D

http://www.playbill.com/news/article/91048.html
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