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« Reply #150 on: January 18, 2005, 12:38:49 PM »

Thank you, DR TCB!
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« Reply #151 on: January 18, 2005, 12:39:12 PM »

And one for Mahler.
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« Reply #152 on: January 18, 2005, 12:40:48 PM »

good morning all ....

... does anybody know if there is still a film option out there for "THE LONELINESS OF THE LONG DISTANCE RUNNER" ???????

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« Reply #153 on: January 18, 2005, 01:13:23 PM »

I could not disagree with you more, Charles Pogue, about DeNiro's weight gain for RAGING BULL. There is no way you can act middle age paunch. You either have the weight or you don't. Are you saying you would have preferred a fat suit? I wouldn't have. It gave that portion of the film a reality that would have been SO fake if he hadn't looked paunchy and out of shape.

Olivier's catty comment to Dustin Hoffman about staying up all night to portray exhaustion had a ring of truth in it for certain, but gaining weight to play the middle aged Jake LaMotta is another kettle of fish entirely.
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« Reply #154 on: January 18, 2005, 01:15:37 PM »

I put HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN back in the DVD player today. I had a middling reaction to the film when I saw it in theaters last summer, but I'm gaining a greater respect for it the more I see it.
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« Reply #155 on: January 18, 2005, 01:18:34 PM »

After HARRY POTTER concluded, I put in the Vanessa Williams/Jason Alexander BYE BYE BIRDIE in the DVD player. I think the TV-movie has some serious miscasting, but I have to say I rather enjoyed the first three numbers when the movie plays straight through, and there are no commercials.
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« Reply #156 on: January 18, 2005, 01:20:50 PM »

I ... ran across THE SWIMMER ... as I was ...l surfing.

This has to be Panni's sub-conscious thesaurus-izing away!

I LOVE it!

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« Reply #157 on: January 18, 2005, 01:22:09 PM »

Of course there is the great Australian Dance Sport movie "Strictly Ballroom".

I'm glad to know someone ELSE here appreciates this film!

Umm...you do LIKE it, don't you, Tom????????
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« Reply #158 on: January 18, 2005, 01:23:16 PM »

I've gained weight to play the middle-aged BK.  I'm losing the weight to also play the middle-aged BK.

Ron, you'll be happy to know The Swimmer is on DVD in a gorgeous enhanced transfer.
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« Reply #159 on: January 18, 2005, 01:24:13 PM »

Not that I know of. And I would be the one to know.

Okey-doke!  Ummm....may I ask the meaning, then, of that comment that appears underneath your avatar?

"Will fence for Cherry Coke (underpants)"

I'm sure you've made it clear before...but I must have been "out of range" that day.
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« Reply #160 on: January 18, 2005, 01:25:30 PM »

I've gained weight to play the middle-aged BK.  I'm losing the weight to also play the middle-aged BK.

Ron, you'll be happy to know The Swimmer is on DVD in a gorgeous enhanced transfer.

Actually, I'm thrilled to know this.   Was there fanfare?  Did I miss the drums and horns and bells and flutes?

Or did it slide into the marketplace without a lot of hoo-haw?
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« Reply #161 on: January 18, 2005, 01:34:18 PM »

I really enjoyed last night's MEDIUM.

Although I will say this (DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE SHOW AND PLAN TO):




The photo thing was extremely predictable.  I thought it was quite obvious that the wedding photos were taken by the same photographer.  The style was very distinct.

I felt like the writers thought they were surprising us.

But very good episode.
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« Reply #162 on: January 18, 2005, 01:37:40 PM »

No hoo-haw - just another catalog title.

I got several interesting packages today.  Perhaps I'll open them right this very minute.
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« Reply #163 on: January 18, 2005, 01:51:08 PM »

MATTH, I don't think actors should have to jeopardize their health or physical well-being for any role.

I don't think Olivier's remark is catty at all, I think it merely punctures the pretentiousness of Hoffman's actions.  If you sleep-deprive yourself to play sleep-deprivation, you cannot come to your work with the concentration and focus it requires.  You also may be sleep-deprived in a totally different way than the character you're playing.

I had a director who once tired to direct "the method", it was absurd.  I had a drunk scene.  When he found out I had never been drunk in my life (I was a teetotaler in my college days), he insisted I get drunk.  We had a party.  I did.  It was totally useless research.  I was a rather funny, light-hearted drunk.  The character I was playing was maudlin and wistful...I still had to depend on my powers of unpersonal research and my imagination to do what was required of the character.

I firmly embrace Stella Adler's eulogy of Lee Strasberg:  "He had more influence on acting than anyone in the last hundred years.  And it will take another hundred years to undo the damage he's done."  Or words to that effect.

Bottomline, regardless of De Niro physical transformation...I not a fan of the film.
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« Reply #164 on: January 18, 2005, 01:58:33 PM »

Stella Adler was correct.....is it not true that The Method was being taught from a translated Volume One and then when Volume Two was translated, it was found to contradict many things in the first volume?  The audience in AT THE ACTORS STUDIO drives me crazy (sometimes more so than the host) with its questions and assumptions.  I don't think acting can be taught.  And as I director, I have worked with college students who have been "crippled" by technique they are being taught.
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« Reply #165 on: January 18, 2005, 01:59:43 PM »

Bazooms is correct DR RON PULLIAM.....Miss Allison certainly had certain qualifications that helped her get into the movies....and being taught acting Lee Strasberg wasn't one of them.
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« Reply #166 on: January 18, 2005, 02:08:45 PM »

Correction:  I was a teetotaller except for my one drink I'd had at the Playboy Club, which at the time told me I didn't much like hard liquor (and this was Vodka, which is tasteless).  I still don't much drink hard liquor (no scotch or bourbon at all) and  pretty much stick with wines.

But the other point about the futility of my director's whimsey was that being drunk, I was in no state to pragmatically gauge and remember any sensations to use in my drunk impersonation on stage...had my drunk even been remotely the same as the one I was playing.  

I also knew what malarkay "the method" was through this experience...for everytime I was truly feeling it, my director thought I was faking it.  Everytime I knew I was faking it, he thought it was real.  I got very good reviews in the part, by the way,McCann in Pinter's THE BIRTHDAY PARTY.

I do not believe in the cult of just one approach to acting.  I think you pick and choose from the array of methods out there and use the stuff from each discipline that works for you.  

I also know there are those moments on the stage when you're really in the groove and you can do no wrong, everything is genuine and real and, even as much in the moment as you are, there is Another Self floating behind and above you watching you, going:  "I am hot tonight."  Those moments, alas, happen all too frequently.

I also know that there are times you go onstage thinking of Chinese food and no matter how hard you try , you can't give into the heat and the emotion of the play. And at those times, you had better "try acting, dear boy" and fall back on discipline, focus, and technique, because there is an audience who've paid their money and you owe and you'd better convince them, whether you "feel" it or not.
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« Reply #167 on: January 18, 2005, 02:16:59 PM »

I'm glad to know someone ELSE here appreciates this film!

Umm...you do LIKE it, don't you, Tom????????

STRICTLY BALLROOM is wonderful!  DRRonPulliam, try some Zicam on your cold.
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« Reply #168 on: January 18, 2005, 02:19:30 PM »

JRand54, I too have seen too many young actors crippled by "The Method" or some perversion of The Method.  While I think much of acting discipline and technique can, indeed, be taught...I do not believe you can teach talent.  And if you don't have the talent, the technique as likely as not won't help.

At its heart, acting is very simple. It's just pretend. Or as one wag once put it:  "Acting is Honesty.  Once you learn to fake that, you can got it made."
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« Reply #169 on: January 18, 2005, 02:27:52 PM »

MBARNUM I just emailed you the whole article fromHollywood Screen Stars of 1955.
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« Reply #170 on: January 18, 2005, 02:28:40 PM »

I, too, think the Method a load of bunk.  But actors need this sort of "thing" to hang onto.  As for me, I learn my lines real well, show up on time, and give a good performance.  Directors were always happy with me because I showed up prepared and with an idea of what I wanted to do.  They rarely had to give me further direction, but if they did, I took it and did it to the best of my ability.  

It IS all about being truthful - whether it's a realistic drama or comedy, or whether it's a Feydeau farce, or whether it's a satire - it must be truthful.  That's all I ever said to any of my singers - I just want to believe in what you're singing - the simple or complex truth of the lyric (simple usually being best).  
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« Reply #171 on: January 18, 2005, 02:30:41 PM »

LOL....I learned my acting technique from a couple of things written by Mr Jack Lemmon and Mr Hume Cronyn....both of which were so simple as to be common sense.
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« Reply #172 on: January 18, 2005, 02:35:09 PM »

Common sense is the key to acting.  

But I think some actors need to justify their profession by trying to make it more difficult that it seems or to raise it to the level of the mystical.  I think there is a mystic quality to great acting, but I don't think it is anything that can be taught, articulated, or learned.  It lies in the genes of talent.
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« Reply #173 on: January 18, 2005, 02:36:25 PM »

The Genes of Talent - the title of my next book.
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« Reply #174 on: January 18, 2005, 02:53:39 PM »

And here's to some talented Genes....Tierney, Tunney and Kelly!
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« Reply #175 on: January 18, 2005, 03:12:53 PM »

DR Ron, I suggest you try AlkaSeltzer cold medicine,  I also suggest you try the orange flavored one as the original will make you gag


Orange Alka Seltzer sounds yummy.  Or at least it reminds me of Orange Fizzies, which were yummy in my youth.
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« Reply #176 on: January 18, 2005, 03:13:57 PM »

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« Reply #177 on: January 18, 2005, 03:25:10 PM »

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« Reply #178 on: January 18, 2005, 03:25:41 PM »

What magazine - what article DRMB?

I just sent you scans from the full Allison Hayes Hollywood Stars Magazine.
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« Reply #179 on: January 18, 2005, 03:26:05 PM »

I gained weight to play the middleaged JR.
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