Topic: THE POINT (Read 45425 times)

Tomovoz · « **Reply #510 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:42:15 PM »

Quote from: FJL on May 24, 2007, 06:39:21 PM

Have we discussed this before: I just watched the first episode of UGLY BETTY - is there some balancing factor which makes it OK for a show to have such a negative stereotype of a gay character as Ms. Williams' assistant? The show is obviously highly regarded, but this "bitchy queen" portrayal, combined with what i saw of the (possibly gay???) little boy turning out in the most recent weeks to pretty much poison someone to get a part in a school play, makes me wonder how this show gets away with it. If a show is well written and is of high quality, does it make such negative portrayals acceptable?

One viewing was more than enough for DP Colin and myself.

FJL · « **Reply #511 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:44:54 PM »

Don't mind me. I'm crabby tonight. Don't know why: The dog poop came very easily, so i should be walking on air.

JoseSPiano · « **Reply #512 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:45:54 PM »

Well, that's better than walking on dog poop.

FJL · « **Reply #513 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:48:33 PM »

hey, it's fun just saying what's on my mind. Can I do that all the time and use the reason that I feel crabby?

Tomovoz · « **Reply #514 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:48:58 PM »

The first copies of the HHW Birthdates Cd have been finished and shall be posted on Monday.

DRs who wish to have a copy and for whom I do not have a mailing address, please PM me here.

So far I have six definite requests!

FJL · « **Reply #515 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:49:00 PM »

Even on days when I'm not really crabby, i mean.

Matt H. · « **Reply #516 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:09:45 PM »

Quote from: FJL on May 24, 2007, 08:41:46 PM

UGLY BETTY is a comedy which pushes buttons on all races, classes, and sexes? A broad satire? If that's true, then based on the season finale, the creative team seems not to know what they are, or else they've lost control of their storyline.

Well, all I can say is that I taught children for 30 years, and some of the more precocious ones might well have tried what Justin did to get his chance in the limelight. Again, it's a satire and supposed to be in fun. Sorry you're not having any.

Matt H. · « **Reply #517 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:12:42 PM »

Oh, and the drama on the show is also exaggerated just like on soaps, e.g. the girlfriend pregnant by another man who tricks the heroine's love into potentially marrying her, Betty's father being seduced by the social worker in the name of getting him a green card.

bk · « **Reply #518 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:13:37 PM »

Might go get a bite to eat, since I had my big meal at eleven-thirty this morning.

Matt H. · « **Reply #519 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:13:48 PM »

But I think DRs Jane and Tomovoz have the best idea. If a show bugs you so much, stop watching. There are lots of other channels out there.

Matt H. · « **Reply #520 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:14:58 PM »

See! I can be crabby too!

Matt H. · « **Reply #521 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:15:12 PM »

Off to bed now.

Good night!

FJL · « **Reply #522 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:21:14 PM »

UGLY BETTY SPOILERS

Continuing my evening of crabbiness:

(a) The boy could have seriously harmed the boy with the peanut allergy and should have been arrested or at least his family sued for what he did. If some kid is tempted to try that in real life, someone has fallen asleep at the wheel in bringing that kid up. The show seems to suggest that what the kid did is OK.

(b) the shooting ending shows a loss of control by the writers, if the show is indeed supposed to be a satire.

(c) You surely see the difference between a gay stereotype on a show with no positive gay characters, and the treatment of Mabius' character. Also, I can't argue with Williams' character; she's a "bitch" who just happens to be played by am African-American actress - they do not define the charcater by any racial stereotypes, nor would they dare do so. The gay character is defined by gay stereotypes. That's a big difference.

FJL · « **Reply #523 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:29:42 PM »

I don't believe in just not watching if something bothers me. I'm trying to get ahead (in a small small way) in the entertainment field, and it's important to me that I know what the trends are. For an extreme example, the Grease reality show, however "low-quality," was required viewing, to know what's going on in the theater world. If comedy is getting more cruel, it's important that I sample that as well. But also as an example, if I see bad influences on kids taking place in the family hour, I need to vent. You can't look the other way just because something bothers you, you must meet it (dare I say it) head on.

DearReaderLaura · « **Reply #524 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:30:59 PM »

I wanna be crabby too!!!!!!

FJL · « **Reply #525 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:31:52 PM »

And BTW, I love hearing your points of view, Matt. Give and take, even friendly disagreement, with people on this site is one of the joys of being here.

DearReaderLaura · « **Reply #526 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:33:16 PM »

But how can I be crabby after watching DR Sandra's preschoolers at graduation tonight. Anyone hearing thirty preschoolers belt out "Jesus Loves the Little Children" in a monotone can't be crabby.

FJL · « **Reply #527 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:36:17 PM »

I wanna be crabby
But I can't be crabby
'Til I make you crabby too

Nothing is worth griping
With no one else sniping
Let my mood rub off on you

Tomovoz · « **Reply #528 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:42:36 PM »

Crabbieness is a thing called Fred.

Who sang that?

Tomovoz · « **Reply #529 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:44:01 PM »

"Crabby" that was the song from "Diana Sings the Blues".

FJL · « **Reply #530 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:45:27 PM »

Didn;t the Heebee-BeeGees sing "Blaming it all on The Lice on Broadway"

Tomovoz · « **Reply #531 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:45:40 PM »

"Crabbiness is a warm gun"
I don't know what that means but Eric Clapton would play the guitar backing well.

Tomovoz · « **Reply #532 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:46:39 PM »

I'm also not sure about the spelling of crabbieness/crabbyness/crabbiness.

Tomovoz · « **Reply #533 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:47:10 PM »

maybe I'm not sure/shore/shaw about it.

Tomovoz · « **Reply #534 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:48:53 PM »

LOL FJL. DR Rodzinski has now discovered the joys of the HeeBeeGeeBees.

meaningless songs in very high voices.

FJL · « **Reply #535 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:48:59 PM »

Crabby days are here again
The clouds above are near again
So let's all go see Cape Fear again
Crabby days are here again

FJL · « **Reply #536 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:51:50 PM »

Life is a Crab-array, old chum

FJL · « **Reply #537 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:53:35 PM »

CRABBIN' IN THIS GUY - kind of a Reefer madness, only about crabs

FJL · « **Reply #538 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:55:07 PM »

As Samantha sang,

Goodnight, goodnight, goodnight, goodnight.

FJL · « **Reply #539 on:** May 24, 2007, 09:55:19 PM »

But let's get to

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