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« Reply #60 on: March 28, 2004, 01:44:38 PM »

My quandary of the day is one I'll have to figure out on my own:

Which five songs should go in my application for the ASCAP workshop?

The left coast branch of the ASCAP workshop has frequently been graced by BK's presence on its panel.

Some of these songs are so completely interspersed with dialogue, they might not seem to impressive on a recording.  Others sound fine in and of themselves but are really rather incidental to the plot (and, therefore, likely cuts later on).  The title song is one that, like many a Jerry Herman number, repeats itself with different lyrics as more people join the chorus.  But I don't have a chorus to record it so it might just sound repetitive (think of Dear World, When Mabel Walks in the Room or Mame, done as a solo in its entirety).  There are two songs for subsidiary characters - one is Joy's favorite, the other I don't think much of.  The song that I really think is the best is very brief, because, in the show, it's followed by dialogue that is the turning point of the entire show.

So, you see why I'm in a quandary.
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« Reply #61 on: March 28, 2004, 01:45:12 PM »

Roz Russell movies for DR Panni:

The Women
His Girl Friday

Obvious choices, I know...but Roz is really at her scenery-chewing best in these!

Roz also has a teeny role in a little-known favorite of mine, Forsaking All Others.  As I say, it's an early one of hers ('36, I believe) and her role is small, but (as usual) she makes the most of it.  The rest of the cast is boffo as well: Joan Crawford, Clark Gable, Robert Montgomery, Kay Francis, Billie Burke...

And later in life:

The Trouble with Angels

Always a favorite of mine, this one features Roz in a lower key, and she does beautifully.
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« Reply #62 on: March 28, 2004, 01:46:06 PM »

"a lower key"????  What I meant to say is that her performance isn't over the top in this film, but more subtle and nuanced.
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« Reply #63 on: March 28, 2004, 01:50:54 PM »

And to tell the Tale of Rover

First my esteemed producer says I must provide a back-story for my characters; so here are  the tricky details.

My Mom gave birth to a boy she named Bobby. After the birth, the doctors told her she could not have any more children. So, she and my Pop, not wanting to raise an only child, decided they would adopt a child to be a playmate. While the adoption process was still in the works, Bobby died of encephalitis at 18 mos. Nonetheless, my folks continued on with the process they had started and brought me home when I was 18mos old (rescued from the Children’s Shelter).

Seven years pass, and my mother begins getting concerned because she is gaining weight! Months of weight gain continue (with regular 28 day events occurring promptly) until in about four months she feels what she knows to be the quickening of a child – but which she also knows can’t be true! Well, it seems that when the Doctors told her she “couldn’t have any more children” they really meant “she shouldn’t get pregnant” because her womb was misformed and she would not be able to bear a child to term. It also turns out that some women do manage to menstruate throughout pregnancy.

So eight year old Bruce was primed for the big event. (My Mom was a great reader of the elite medical journals of the day, AKA “The Reader’s Digest” and had picked up all sorts of tips on preparing older siblings to welcome a newcomer. I got to do a lot of belly feeling and could giggle when Mom’s belly jumped when the Baby kicked. I was told how lucky I was to be getting a new baby Brother/Sister, and how important it was for the new baby to have a Big Brother for protection, etc, etc, and puzzlement forth. Chuck came into the world via Caesarian section and came to stay. When the friends and relatives came by to see the new baby, the only way that happened was if I picked up Chuck and showed him off as my new Brother. This event occurred in February.

Now, to the Tale

One cold March morning as I left to go up the hill to the School Bus stop, I was greeted by an old bedraggled looking black and white mutt. I felt sorry for him, and shared my morning doughnut with him. When I got back from school, the dog was patiently waiting at the bus stop. I told him home and asked if I could keep him. The answer was a definite NO. Mom was concerned that a dog in the house might harm the baby. So poor Rover (how imaginative I was at eight) had to make do with my putting an old blanket by the front steps and sneaking him doughnuts in the morning. (Knowing my Father, there was some other “sneaking” going on,) Each morning Rover dutifully escorted me to the bus stop, and each afternoon he was unfailingly waiting at the bus stop for my return.

Come a nice spring day in April and Mom decides to give Brother Chuck some sunshine. She bundles him in a carriage and goes up the hill to visit with a friend. To give Chuck the benefit of the beautiful spring weather she left him in his carriage on the friend’s front porch. While Mom and the friend were enjoying coffee there came a big ruckus from out front – terrified the women dashed out to find Rover firmly planted in front of the carriage with his hackles raised and making large menacing growls at the Homeowner who had decided to come home early! Nobody was going to get near that carriage while Rover was around!

Rover never slept outside again.

Der Brucer

(A few years later when we planned a move to the city where there would be no place for Rover to romp as he was accustomed, my Father convinced me that Rover would be much happier living out his remaining years on a nice farm, so Rover went to New Jersey and was loving cared for until he died. I fondly remember the many visits to the farm to see Rover and explore to mysteries of farm machinery and houses without electricity or indoor plumbing, and learned the wonders of bacon fresh from the smoke house, vine ripened tomatoes and cantaloupes, and just-picked corn on the cob.)

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« Reply #64 on: March 28, 2004, 02:02:43 PM »

SWW I love the Samantha Chimney story.  
Thank-you.  To give credit where credit is due, der Brucer thanks you as well.
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« Reply #65 on: March 28, 2004, 02:06:48 PM »

Jay you might find these links interesting.

http://www.falsettos.net/royal_family_of_broadway.php

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/ae/theater/2416534
Then there's The Royal Family, Finn's musical version (with book by Richard Greenberg) of the classic George S. Kaufman-Edna Ferber comedy about an acting dynasty (based on the Barrymores). That one, Finn says, is temporarily "in limbo" because of difficulties regarding rights to the source play, which lapsed during the search for producers. "But it's not dead."

Good work, DR Jane!  You've come up with results where I was coming up with blanks!
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« Reply #66 on: March 28, 2004, 02:09:08 PM »

Proposed Topic:  Guilty Pleasures

Some of mine...

Books:

Deceptions by Judith Michael  

Glossy '80s soaper about twin sisters - one rich and glamorous and living in Europe, one mousy and middle-class and the wife of a Chicago college professor - who secretly trade places as a lark...and pay for their hubris.

Playing the Field by Mamie Van Doren, et. al.

Mamie's autobiography.  Need I say more?


Films:


Can't Stop the Music

The Village People.  Steve Guttenberg.  Bruce Jenner.  Valerie Perrine.  Paul Sand.  Tammy Grimes.  All together in a disco movie released after disco was officially dead, and directed by Rhoda Morganstern's mom.  The Titanic of movie musicals.

Flash Gordon

A Dino DeLaurentiis production, with music by Queen and starring Ingmar Bergman's favorite actor, Max Von Sydow, as Ming the Merciless.

Airport '74

Charlton Heston jumps from a helicopter into the ripped-open cockpit of the disabled airplane girlfriend Karen Black is trying to land, despite the fact that she is noticeably cross-eyed.  This is also the one with the little girl in need of a kidney transplant (Linda Blair) and Helen Reddy as a guitar-pickin' nun.

Most of Jackie Chan's movies


TV:

Fantasy Island

Where else can you find Barbi Benton, Carol Lynley, Ken Barry, and Charo with regularity?

Love Boat

Oops. This is the OTHER place you can find the above-named people with regularity.  

Charlie's Angels

OK, I may as well admit it...I STILL want to be one of Charlie's Angels.

You Can't Do That on Television  

A Canadian kid's program that ran on Nickelodeon throughout the '80s and picked up quite a following.  Sort of a junior version of Laugh-In.

Matt Houston

Wow, there is really a preponderance of Aaron Spelling effluvia on my list, isn't there?  This one stars Lee "I kind of remind you of Tom Selleck, don't I?" Horsley as a zillionaire Texan who solves mysteries just for grins and giggles, but who, at heart, is still jest a simple country boy.  Pamela "Princess Ardala" Hensley is his helpmeet and quasi-love interest (who looks like she ran head-on into a Max Factor truck), C.J. Parsons, and their computer is known simply as "Baby."

Anything touched by the brilliant hands of Sid and Marty Krofft
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« Reply #67 on: March 28, 2004, 02:14:46 PM »

That's actually AIRPORT 1975, Lulu.
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« Reply #68 on: March 28, 2004, 02:46:51 PM »

Good work, DR Jane!  You've come up with results where I was coming up with blanks!

Join HHW and you gain an army of supporters!  Thanks to you both Dear Reader Jane and Dear Reader S. Woody White for attempting to answer my William Finn/Royal Family question and Jane especially for coming up with the information!
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« Reply #69 on: March 28, 2004, 02:49:12 PM »

I've been concerned by Dear Reader Jose's absence from this site, so I sent him an e-mail asking if he was OK.  Here's his response:

Thanks for worrying...
 
And it's only been about a week of Sundays, so...
 
We open this Tuesday, and all should be well and back to normal after that.  The techs have been going very well, and the previews are finally finding their groove.  I've just been swamped with keyboard programming - ah, new orchestrations! - about 40 hours + this past week alone in addition to the rehearsals and previews.  *The conductor and I even pulled an all-nighter the night before first preview!
 
But I'm doing well... And please feel free to pass on my best to the folks at HHW... I'm doing well.  And the show is beautiful!
 
*And the eye candy quotient on stage is wonderful!!!! :-)
 
Well, time to get ready for the matinee...
 
**The dial-up connection here is also REALLY slow, so sometimes loading up some sites just isn't worth the wait when I get home at 1:00am... Especially when I've left the apartment at 8:00am the previous morning. ;-)
 
Thanks,
Jose
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« Reply #70 on: March 28, 2004, 02:54:30 PM »

DRJAY - I happened to make the mistake of criticizing Mae West in my review of SEXTETTE at epinions.com   Some guy joined just to let me know my comments were sexist and that I should have applauded Mae for standing up and doing the movie.

Actually she SHOULD have been applauded for standing up - if she had, she leaned against the furniture most of the time.  As I told him in my comment on HIS comment - Mae West at 85 would have been a great movie, but Mae West at 85 playing 35 was NOT!

RR is one of my favorites with AUNTIE MAME, GYPSY, and HIS GIRL FRIDAY probably the ones I watch most often.  I also like THE WOMEN and ROSIE! - but she certainly played a murderous actress with great elan in THE VELVET TOUCH!

Guilty pleasures.....Carroll Baker's movies from the 50's and 60's!
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« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2004, 03:02:00 PM »

BK - I've had a couple of those seven letter scores with a high-point letter in the word a couple of times (never one with 2 high-point letters that I recall).  The trouble with those kinds of scores are: once you have one and catapulted 50 to 100 points ahead of everybody, they all want to stop playing.
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« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2004, 03:04:18 PM »

Lulu, my life is one big guilty pleasure! LOL!

But to narrow it down to just a few: Grade B movies, Bollywood, tawdry 1950s paperbacks, 80s new wave, Mr. Ed, Beverly Hillbillies, Gilligan's Island, Shirley Temple movies.
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« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2004, 03:05:30 PM »


MBarnum I don’t know why but I missed your post to me last night so didn't comment.  I know hunters who love their hunting dogs.  I’m sorry you didn’t get to grow up with one.  We had toy, miniature poodles that are notorious for taking on the personalities of their owners.  Ours were a bit neurotic but I loved them.  




Actually, despite the fact that my family wasn't too keen on pets when I was a kid we did have a couple of dogs. Pepper, a black cocker spaniel, was around from the time I was born until he was run over by the garbage man when I was 5 (my brother whisked me away to town for an ice cream cone so that I would'nt know what had happened).

Salty, a white pussycat, was mine all mine, until he bit the dust a few months later (my sister ran over him with her Volkswagon, accidently).

And then came Heidi, a German-Shephard mix, who lived into old age. She was a beauty and I love her to this day!

The thing with my family is that pets weren't allowed inside. I hated that, and of course on some occasions snuck the animal inside. My brothers actually now have many pets...Allan has a wonderful dog and a couple of cats, and Jeff also has cats. Sister Sue and her family have always owned a hunting dog of some sort, and while my neice and her fiancee are staying at their house they now have two indoor cats (something unheard of in that household until now)!
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« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2004, 03:09:02 PM »

Yes, Pogue, the fellow who I was playing with was quite annoyed and didn't want to finish the game.  I insisted, of course.  I think I'm finished writing for the day - did three count them three pages, but I'm just too congested to do any more.  I was watching some awful movie on FCM, something called Sweet Revenge from 1994 or thereabouts.  Cheesy low-budget affair where they actually manage to get some decent actors like Kelly McGillis and Alec Baldwin as well as a young Helen Hunt.  The score was one of those early nineties wretched synth jobs.  Luckily, it was almost over when I tuned in.
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« Reply #75 on: March 28, 2004, 03:10:38 PM »

A zillion years ago Gord, Pooch (the Afghan hound introduced here yesterday) and I were driving out west in a Rambler American. The car broke down in Maple Creek, Saskatchewan. We were stuck there till the right part arrived from Thunder Bay, Ontario. One of our diversions during this longest five days in our lives was to take the bus to Medicine Hat, Alberta. We spent one entire day watching Mrs. Pollifax, Spy - from first show to last; and another seeing Finian's Rainbow. Pooch, by the way, was billeted at the local horse farm. He took off one day and showed up at the Maple Creek supermarket. The locals had no idea what he was.
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« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2004, 03:12:06 PM »

Sorry, 1984 it was, which makes more sense.  Helen Hunt was but a young teen.  And Alec Baldwin hadn't done much at that point.  It was some kind of TV movie directed by the usually ok David Greene.  They should all be ashamed of themselves.
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« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2004, 03:14:33 PM »

Sorry, 1984 it was, which makes more sense.  Helen Hunt was but a young teen.  And Alec Baldwin hadn't done much at that point.  It was some kind of TV movie directed by the usually ok David Greene.  They should all be ashamed of themselves.

BK, if you were to go and check your mailbox you might find that you have something much more enjoyable to watch on your television set today.
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« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2004, 03:30:57 PM »

DerBrucer - Loved the story of Rover. And your parents sound like they were exceptional people.

Guilty pleasures: PEOPLE Magazine; American Idol; Ross Hunter movies; Charles Paris mysteries... Can't think of anything else right now. I'm sure more will come to mind.
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« Reply #79 on: March 28, 2004, 03:40:40 PM »

Actually, I haven't been to my mail place since Friday - but if the package is too big for the box there I can't get it until tomorrow.  Still, I might mosey over there and check.

Here is something fascinating: TCM is showing On the Waterfront LETTERBOXED at 1:85.  The film is 1954, but has only ever been available in 1:33 on video and DVD.  The line is that's the way it was shown.  Well, guess what?  The framing looks fantastic in 1:85 - gone is some meddlesome headroom and there is quite a bit of picture added to the sides.  So, I guess we'll need a new DVD.
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« Reply #80 on: March 28, 2004, 03:46:50 PM »

BTW - I'm the daughter of the last Czar. That being clarified, we can move on to other topics.

How are YOUR bunions?  (not to be confused with bunnies from yesterday or yesteryear).
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« Reply #81 on: March 28, 2004, 04:00:19 PM »

I'm confused ???- or was. I was thinking that I want to see a couple of Roz Russell movies again, THE WOMEN and MY SISTER EILEEN. Only in my head I had the 1942 and 1955 Eileens as one. I was thinking, Roz Russell and Janet Leigh. Then I looked it up, and, of course it's Betty Garrett with Leigh. BUT, I'm not the only one confused. Here's a listing at several of the sites describing the 1955 movie:  "Two sisters move to Manhattan from a small town in search of fortune and fame. Academy Award Nominations: Best Actress--Rosalind Russell.
A remake of the 1942 film "My Sister Eileen."
(There's even a photo of the '55 version beside the listing.)
So how does Miss Russell, talented as she is, get an Oscar nom for a movie she's not in -- which is a remake of a movie she IS in??
As I said, this is on several sites. One of my pet Internet peeves -- how mistakes get promulgated.
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« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2004, 04:02:27 PM »

How are YOUR bunions?  (not to be confused with bunnies from yesterday or yesteryear).
"Anastasia had had a mole cauterized, she had bunions on her feet, with it worse on her right foot, just like Anastasia."

I keep my shoes on at all times. It would be unseemly for royalty to do otherwise.
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« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2004, 04:22:09 PM »

Jane - Rachel seems to be fully recovered. She just called to say she's heading down to Haight Ashbury for a guitar lesson. Her first ever.
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« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2004, 04:25:35 PM »

I'm confused ???- or was. I was thinking that I want to see a couple of Roz Russell movies again, THE WOMEN and MY SISTER EILEEN. Only in my head I had the 1942 and 1955 Eileens as one. I was thinking, Roz Russell and Janet Leigh. Then I looked it up, and, of course it's Betty Garrett with Leigh. BUT, I'm not the only one confused. Here's a listing at several of the sites describing the 1955 movie:  "Two sisters move to Manhattan from a small town in search of fortune and fame. Academy Award Nominations: Best Actress--Rosalind Russell.
A remake of the 1942 film "My Sister Eileen."
(There's even a photo of the '55 version beside the listing.)
So how does Miss Russell, talented as she is, get an Oscar nom for a movie she's not in -- which is a remake of a movie she IS in??
As I said, this is on several sites. One of my pet Internet peeves -- how mistakes get promulgated.

DR Panni, Roz is in the original film MY SISTER EILEEN from the 1940s with Janet Blair (?) and I loved the film as a child, but I haven't seen it in years.  The Janet Leigh-Betty Garrett version was done after the musical WONDERFUL TOWN opened, but I believe Joseph Fields didn't like the Comden-Green-Bernstein score, which seems to have been forced on him by George Abbott after the Leroy Anderson score was dropped.
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« Reply #85 on: March 28, 2004, 04:34:42 PM »

LOL DRPANNI the same way "High Society" with Leo Gorcey and Huntz Hall got a screenplay nomination instead of "High Society" with Bing Crosby and Grace Kelly.
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« Reply #86 on: March 28, 2004, 04:39:51 PM »

BK- the problem with people wanting to quit the Scrabble game after you've made a big score is you want to finish to go for a personal best high score record.  It's only sporting that they carry on.

I was once directed by David Greene.  I had small part in THE TRIAL OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD.  Actually my scene is in a long shot and I think you may hear my "wild-tracked" lines.  Then they hold up my picture in the courtroom.  I was this witness who had actually heard shots coming from the grassy knoll but was mysteriously murdered (supposedly trolling for rough trade) before the trial.  All this complex, lovely "backstory" of course off camera and only recited by lawyers at the trial (Lorne Greene, I think).  The somewhat  infamous Lawrence Schiller was a producer on this and I remember he took the photo of me that they brandish in the courtroom.

But the audition with Greene in Dallas was very nice.  He looked at my resume that had all these classical shows on it and said:  "I didn't know you had actors like this in Dallas.  Everything I've seen today has had cowboy boots on."  I met him years later in Ametron Electronics off Hollywood Blvd and reminded him who I was.  It was soon after I had done THE FLY and he of course recited,"Help me, help me!"

Lulu, FLASH GORDON is a guilty pleasure for me, if for no other reason than Ornela Muti in a red skin-tight jumpsuit bound and splayed spread-eagle on some slab.
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« Reply #87 on: March 28, 2004, 04:52:09 PM »

Jay thank you for passing along Jose’s email.

It was my pleasure to do a google search for you and I did find it interesting.

HIS GIRL FRIDAY is my favorite Rosalind Russell film.  I would have called Rosie a guilty please so am pleased to see I’m not alone in mentioning it.

MBarnum I was relieved to read when Heidi came along.

DerBrucer-loved the story of Rover & your baby brother.  And DerBrucer, as you know I thought Samantha & the chimney story was great.  Sorry about the confusion.

Panni thanks for letting me know about the good news.  I hope she enjoys her lesson.  Haight Ashbury sure has turned into a nice area.  If you have done so, next time you visit see the Victorian houses in the area a few blocks away.
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« Reply #88 on: March 28, 2004, 05:11:10 PM »

I will be leaving shortly, Dear Readers, to head to Walt Disney Concert Hall and hear the Los Angeles Master Chorale in a performance of Beethoven's Missa Solemnis.  I will check in when I return.
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« Reply #89 on: March 28, 2004, 05:31:48 PM »

Evening all.

What is eating snow like?  I didn't think you could eat snow anymore.  My Mom always tells that they did that when she was a kid but snow is so "dirty" now it's not safe.  

Even so, I've always wanted to try it.

DR Jane, Bear slept with me from the first night I got him.  Since I will never know what horrors were done to poor Brandi before I got her, I can well understand she wouldn't want to be near any human.  It's taken years for her to come out of her shell.  

When she does stay in the house, she sleeps on a piece of carpet  on the floor I have at the foot of the bed.  When the weather is nice, she crys at the door, wanting out about every hour or so.  I used to get up and let her in and out but it got to be to much for me.

I'm glad that Jose is ok.  I was starting to wonder why he wasn't posting.  

DR Jennifer--I'm sorry I didn't see your post about the diet drinks.  I'm not sure if the others have carbs or not.  I only know how ill I get off of the other types of sweetners.  Splenda is the first one that I have been able to use and Diet Rite is the only drink I have seen made with it.

We had a wonderful, warm day here today.  I hope that I am safe in saying that Spring is FINELY here.  Yay!

I like Scrabble as well but I tend to play it against the computer.  

I contacted the MS people and was talking with a tech about my Pocket IE question with my pocket PC.  I explained how I thought it would/should work and he said, "Yeah, that sounds like it would work." Duh.  Maybe I should be a MS tech if I can answer my own questions like that.


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