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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #90 on: April 26, 2013, 09:39:30 AM »

I'm up, I'm up, and shall jog in a little while.
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« Reply #91 on: April 26, 2013, 09:40:08 AM »

Perhaps if dear reader Jennifer reads the notes she'll know that i, too, wished her a happy birthday. :)
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« Reply #92 on: April 26, 2013, 09:40:23 AM »

Jrand's interview was indeed nice.
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« Reply #93 on: April 26, 2013, 09:47:08 AM »

Hmmm.....I was quoting from a webpage about Patrick Hamilton and ROPE....but it looks as though he may have been contracted and did some writing, but that Laurents is credited with the screenplay.  I haven't read AL's book in a long time, and I forget if he wrote about it.

In his biography of Patrick Hamilton “Through a Glass Darkly”, Nigel Jones goes into considerable detail about the screenplay of ROPE. In summary, he says that after agreeing to give Hitchcock the go-ahead to film it, Hamilton was himself asked to do the screenplay and he worked on a preliminary script treatment of ROPE for producer Sidney Bernstein at Elstree Studios in England in 1947. Hamilton wrote to his brother to say “Under my contract I can be called upon to do another six weeks – either here or in Hollywood – I hope to heaven here.” 

Nigel Jones goes on to say that when Sidney Bernstein returned to Hollywood, Hamilton’s treatment was delivered into the hands of Hume Cronyn, who rewrote the plot, giving the Rupert Cadell character an anguished guilt over having led the murderers astray with his teachings of Nietzsche. Behind Cronyn’s back, Hitchcock brought in a third writer, Arthur Laurents, to write the film’s dialogue. Laurents handed his first draft to Hitchcock and when he came back to do the rewrite he found that Hitchcock had inserted some of the original play into the text and made other adjustments such as making the homosexual bond between the killers more explicit.

Hamilton disliked the finished film and felt that he had been bribed into getting involved by a mixture of assurances that his text would be adhered to and threats that if he did not take part, his script would be mangled by lesser writers.   


Great story, especially to think that anyone could take an Arthur Laurents script and make it more gay.

Perhaps the story behind Rope is more interesting than the film itself. I like a lot of it, but, by the end, it always feels like it's more of an exercise, a demonstration of Hitchcock showing how good he is, than it is about entertaining the audience.
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« Reply #94 on: April 26, 2013, 09:54:13 AM »

Hmmm.....I was quoting from a webpage about Patrick Hamilton and ROPE....but it looks as though he may have been contracted and did some writing, but that Laurents is credited with the screenplay.  I haven't read AL's book in a long time, and I forget if he wrote about it.

In his biography of Patrick Hamilton “Through a Glass Darkly”, Nigel Jones goes into considerable detail about the screenplay of ROPE. In summary, he says that after agreeing to give Hitchcock the go-ahead to film it, Hamilton was himself asked to do the screenplay and he worked on a preliminary script treatment of ROPE for producer Sidney Bernstein at Elstree Studios in England in 1947. Hamilton wrote to his brother to say “Under my contract I can be called upon to do another six weeks – either here or in Hollywood – I hope to heaven here.” 

Nigel Jones goes on to say that when Sidney Bernstein returned to Hollywood, Hamilton’s treatment was delivered into the hands of Hume Cronyn, who rewrote the plot, giving the Rupert Cadell character an anguished guilt over having led the murderers astray with his teachings of Nietzsche. Behind Cronyn’s back, Hitchcock brought in a third writer, Arthur Laurents, to write the film’s dialogue. Laurents handed his first draft to Hitchcock and when he came back to do the rewrite he found that Hitchcock had inserted some of the original play into the text and made other adjustments such as making the homosexual bond between the killers more explicit.

Hamilton disliked the finished film and felt that he had been bribed into getting involved by a mixture of assurances that his text would be adhered to and threats that if he did not take part, his script would be mangled by lesser writers.   


Great story, especially to think that anyone could take an Arthur Laurents script and make it more gay.

Perhaps the story behind Rope is more interesting than the film itself. I like a lot of it, but, by the end, it always feels like it's more of an exercise, a demonstration of Hitchcock showing how good he is, than it is about entertaining the audience.

I am not a fan of the film. I find it too overwrought.
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« Reply #95 on: April 26, 2013, 10:19:55 AM »

And the day continues bad: I'm finding melodic errors in the vocal lines and this means another proof, since the last one clearly wasn't successful, before we can print and this puts us back several days. Color me disgruntled.

The vocal lines?  What show?
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #96 on: April 26, 2013, 10:20:43 AM »

Happy birthday to DR Jennifer!
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #97 on: April 26, 2013, 10:22:01 AM »

Just sent a letter to my parents.  They sent me a birthday present which I think I'll use to go see them.
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #98 on: April 26, 2013, 10:23:02 AM »

Just sent a letter to my parents.  They sent me a birthday present which I think I'll use to go see them.
When's your birthday?
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #99 on: April 26, 2013, 10:28:41 AM »

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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #100 on: April 26, 2013, 10:45:06 AM »

Just sent a letter to my parents.  They sent me a birthday present which I think I'll use to go see them.

A scooter?
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2013, 11:18:12 AM »

Back from a three-mile jog and waiting for me was the galley!  I've approved it and now it's just the covers.
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2013, 11:19:54 AM »

And now I shall get ready for lunch with friends.
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #103 on: April 26, 2013, 11:28:41 AM »

Lunch here was a chicken salad on rye with Thousand Island.  Very, very yummy.
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #104 on: April 26, 2013, 11:45:18 AM »

Thank you DR MBarnum. Nice card!
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #105 on: April 26, 2013, 11:45:45 AM »

Of course I read the notes. Thanks BK!
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #106 on: April 26, 2013, 11:46:06 AM »

Thanks DR FJL!
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #107 on: April 26, 2013, 11:46:38 AM »

Just sent a letter to my parents.  They sent me a birthday present which I think I'll use to go see them.

A scooter?

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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #108 on: April 26, 2013, 11:53:37 AM »

Jrand's interview was indeed nice.

Thank you....of course I am no Bruce Kimmel - but I do what I can.
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #109 on: April 26, 2013, 11:54:44 AM »

Very interesting DR DOUG R....
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #110 on: April 26, 2013, 11:55:34 AM »

Is tonight an opening night for DR CHAS SMITH and DR MATTHEW?  Or have I mis-remembered....again.
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #111 on: April 26, 2013, 12:19:29 PM »

Just saw on another label's website That they are releasing a new version of marry me a little. But what also caught my eye is the off-Broadway cast recording of John and Jen. They do not have a physical version of it, but you have to download it digitally. I also looked at the credits but guess what there is no credit for the producer! What are they afraid of?
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #112 on: April 26, 2013, 12:30:09 PM »

Is tonight an opening night for DR CHAS SMITH and DR MATTHEW?  Or have I mis-remembered....again.

Another opening, another show, DR Jrand62.
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« Reply #113 on: April 26, 2013, 12:31:03 PM »

In a couple of hours it will be exactly one year since I first logged into this JERNT.

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In a way, it seems more like a couple of years!  Can it really only be last June - ten months ago - that BK, DR Elmore, DR Ben, DR FJL, E&T DR Producer Julie, and some singin' gal named Sandy Bainum had our first get-together??

Happy Anniversary, ChasSmith!!
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #114 on: April 26, 2013, 12:38:32 PM »

And the day continues bad: I'm finding melodic errors in the vocal lines and this means another proof, since the last one clearly wasn't successful, before we can print and this puts us back several days. Color me disgruntled.

~~~Melodic Vibes for Elmore!!~~~
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #115 on: April 26, 2013, 12:39:01 PM »

Picked up Chester from the groomer.

He looks very handsome.
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #116 on: April 26, 2013, 01:04:11 PM »

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JENNIFER!!!!
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Re: THE POUNDING OF THE BEEFSTEAK
« Reply #117 on: April 26, 2013, 01:11:51 PM »

Happy Birthday, Jennifer!
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« Reply #118 on: April 26, 2013, 01:12:25 PM »

We went to the desert and it was incredible.  Just as wonderful was returning the the lush green of spring and exciting new plants in bloom.
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« Reply #119 on: April 26, 2013, 01:13:31 PM »

My son and I sat outside and watched the mockingbird feed the fledglings.

http://www.andthisiswhatisaw.net/2013/04/hungry-baby-mockingbird.html

The babies are very loud. And the second after the parent drops the bug in that big open mouth, the baby starts crying again for more.
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