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[singdaw]

   it rings!     

That's good!   But is it a little lumpy?

[ChasSmith]

Cool is before the rumble onstage and in the 2021 version it is after the rumble in the 1961 version...Officer Krupke is before the rumble in the 1961 movie but it is after the rumble onstage and in the 2021 version.

Yes, they flip-flopped them for the 1961 film. But what Spielberg did was place them both before the rumble.

[singdaw]

FOUR!!!!

[Laura]

My daughter isn't feeling well today, so Wae-Ling is going to see My Fair Lady with me.

[Ginny]

   it rings!     

That's good!   But is it a little lumpy?

 

[John G.]

   it rings!     

That's good!   But is it a little lumpy?

Oh, Dolly, you know you can only say that when you're dressed for dinner with feathers in your hair.

[John G.]

I did a week's worth of dishes, which was made worse by trying to get the Springerle molds clean.

[John G.]

I see that more than 70 have died in Kentucky after the tornadoes. That's horrible.

[singdaw]

DR Laura - have fun today, and best wishes of recovery for your daughter!

[singdaw]

 

[Jrand73]

DR CHAS SMITH is right.......Officer Krupke is before the Rumble in the 2021 film.....

[Jrand73]

Have fun DR LAURA......I hope this version has the Ball scene in it....and doesn't go from Eliza's conversion and exit to the "You Did It" at the start of Act Two.

[Jrand73]

DR CHAS SMITH quoted my incorrect post about OFFICER KRUPKE, but I have corrected it in the original post.

[elmore3003]

Have fun DR LAURA......I hope this version has the Ball scene in it....and doesn't go from Eliza's conversion and exit to the "You Did It" at the start of Act Two.

"The Embassy Waltz," heavily truncated, is still in the show.

[ChasSmith]

“West Side Story” Music Producer David Newman on Arranging Steven Spielberg’s Musical Masterpiece

[Jane]

Happy Birthday DR Ginny
🎂🎁🥂💐

Thank you, DR Jane!

You are welcome.

[Jane]

My daughter isn't feeling well today, so Wae-Ling is going to see My Fair Lady with me.

Lucky Wae-Ling.  I hope Sandra feels better tomorrow.

[bk]

Back from breakfast and stuff.

[bk]

In the fun on Facebook department - a few days ago this guy posted that there were 120 musicians on the original 1961 West Side Story film and much less than that on the new one, hence the new one was closer to Bernstein's original vision. I immediately went in and said that was not correct at all - that there was no way the original had 120 musicians, and there was equally no way the new one had many less than that. I pointed out that the new one was played by two different symphony orchestras, the NY and LA Philharmonic. Of course, he never admits he was wrong, he just stops posting. Then today, he links to a Variety article that says there were 120 musicians 1961 and mentioned how he was "dressed down" for saying so. He did admit he was wrong about the new one because he had to as the article also stated what I mentioned above.

The article was written by my good friend Jon Burlingame, so I e-mailed him and told him there was no way that number was right. He admitted that he'd already had a firestorm going about it - someone on the creative team said it was 120, aping a very incorrect statement someone else made. Well, after thirty minutes it was verified that I was, in fact, correct - the original had seventy-two musicians, which, by the way, was VERY large for that era. Neither Ben-Hur or any of those Rozsa scores had quite that many players. So, Jon fixed the article and I went back to the guy's post and said he might want to amend his post and then finally admit he was wrong. We shall see.

[Jrand73]

I want to live again in the world without Covid and without repercussions from DJT and that the important things we have to disagree about is the order of the songs in WSS and how many musicians played in the scoring of the films......that is the world I want back.....

[Jrand73]

Thanks DR ELMORE - as a former Zoltan Karpathy, that is good to know.

[Jrand73]

The night I played him with an Elmer Fudd lisp was the night I got the biggest and most enthusiastic response....

"Decowations for wanguage fwom the Qween of Womania....."

[Jrand73]

The cast was also most engaged and Eliza enjoyed is mostly because I was a much better dancer than the other Zoltan Karpathy who had to miss a Saturday night performance.

There was a petition that I continue in the role, but I declined.

[ChasSmith]

Good story from BK. I look forward to any follow-up.

I think two things that make the 1961 score sound so uniquely "huge" are the quintupled (or whatever it was) pianos and xylophones, and the incredible recording of it. (You have to choose the 4.0 track on the Blu-ray to get the closest to it.)

Other such theater-to-film adaptations sound similarly huge to me -- I think Oklahoma! and The Music Man are a couple of examples. It's in the scoring and the recording. Hollywood had a "sound" unlike Broadway theater sound.

[ChasSmith]

Not that you all didn't know that.

[singdaw]

Thanks for your West Side Story comments, bk, and for the linked article, DR ChasSmith.

[ChasSmith]

That reminds me!

I "found" the full score to the West Side Story "Live to Projection" edition for used by symphony orchestras when playing one of those events where the film and dialogue are played to live music. Whatever they're called. You know what I mean. I've never been to one of those, and I find the concept gimmicky as all hell. But I digress.

So I'm browsing through it, and at the point where the current digital copies of the 1961 film have the faulty color change near the end of the Overture, the syncing cue for the conductor reads "Screen color change to GREEN" - followed a few bars later by "Screen color change to BLUE". Talk about perpetuation of a cinematic crime...

[singdaw]

  If anything, today feels like it's going to be a lull. 

[Ginny]

I want to live again in the world without Covid and without repercussions from DJT and that the important things we have to disagree about is the order of the songs in WSS and how many musicians played in the scoring of the films......that is the world I want back.....

A-men!

[ChasSmith]

I have another story somewhat similar to BK's.  (We are awash in stories today!)

I posted on a score-sharing site that I was looking for a good PDF of [REDACTED], unlike the couple of copies that had already been posted there. Reason being, those other copies were either (1) incomplete and jumbled, with some songs repeated and others missing entirely, or (2) flawed or corrupted because of a huge file size that was either not displaying well or was all-out crashing PDF readers. So did anyone happen to have one that they've checked over and know to be complete and working?

(In the meantime:  with the help of a couple of techy types who were able to advise, I was able to fix the problem using both of those copies, resulting in a perfect PDF score. But I let my question stand in order to see what anyone else might come up with. Because who knows, someone might even have something nicer than my own now-perfect copy.)

A couple of days later, one person responds, "Here it is!" and gives me a link to it. I download it, open it up, and it's the jumbled/incomplete copy. (Now, what had I said about someone having one that they'd - ahem - checked over first?) So I sent him a polite note back, thanking for the effort, but pointing out that his copy was exactly what I was talking about...and I included a quickly compiled list of errata.

Four days later:  crickets.         Which is precisely what I had rather expected would be the response.