Then Access-a-Ride took me to Cafe 82 where I had a lovely lunch with Jack. He told me all about the theatre he's seen, and I told him all about the things I would love to see. We laughed and dished a lot. It was quite delightful. I remain quite embarrassed about my early and too public dislike for him, and I must say that during the pandemic, while he and I were trying to get that recording project off the ground, I had the most wonderful time working with him.