Haines His Way
Archives => Archive 2 => Topic started by: bk on June 05, 2004, 12:00:15 AM
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Well, you've read the notes and now you are ready to walk the walk and talk the talk, so ready boots - start walkin'. Start talkin'. Start postin'.
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Good TOD - Hard to decide though. I'm a big William Holden fan. SUNSET BOULEVARD has already been mentioned, as has BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI, NETWORK... I think LOVE IS A MANY SPLENDORED THING is SO romantic... I also like THE KEY and STALAG 17, of course. PICNIC (he's too old, but so gorgeous). And SABRINA.... Okay, I like almost all his films, so this is useless.
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Favourite William Holden films: "The Bridges at Toko-Ri", "The World Of Suzi Wong", "The Counterfeit Traiter" and "Picnic". I don't think I have seen any of them since they first were shown but my memory tells me I enjoyed them.
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Thanks Panni - I forgot "Stalag 17".
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Greetings all...Don't recall many of William Holden's movies but I'm sure to have seen many of them played as sunday midday matinees in New Zealand where I originally hail from.
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Of course, "Sunset Boulevard" and "Stalag 17," although I haven't it seen all the way through. I also really like "Forever Female." I hate the title, though...and I've only seen it once, a few years ago, but I liked it when I watched it. I also like "S.O.B." and "Born Yesterday." There are a lot more Holden movies out there, but I haven't seen 'em.
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They had movies in NZ when you were a child Beekay? That implies electricity. I must get a pin and write thet down.
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Sorry Beekay - don't think anyone else will understand. I'lll make it up you and read another Janet Frame book.
I wonder if any DRs have seen "An Angel At My Table".
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Love The Counterfeit Traitor, which is happily coming to DVD from Paramount very soon. Also love him in SOB.
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I do believe that Network is the only William Holden film I've seen, that will have to be my choice by default.
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Why the hell am I still awake? It's 4:11 in the a.m. and I have to go to Connecticut tomorrow to see a high school production of MOBY DICK: THE MUSICAL! It should prove to be an interesting production...they're doing it in the local elementary school's cafetorium. ::) I'm watching "Disney's BEAUTY AND THE BEAST" with "Human Again" added in and I'm realizing that the movie is so much better than the show, but I'd do the stage version in a heartbeat if someone would hire me. Still and all, I'm not a huge fan of the mixing of the computer animation and the hand-drawn/painted stuff.
Oh, did I mention that today I met the Asst. Director for such Broadway shows as Disney's BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, Elton John & Tim Rice's AIDA and HAIRSPRAY? Well, I did. He's friends with my friend Michele, and apparently he's directing BEAUTY somewhere in North Carolina. Michele said she'd talk to him about seeing me for an audition. Isn't that exciting? Isn't that just too too?
And did I mention that I saw some portly woman's reproductive parts whilst walking down 9th Avenue? Well, much to my chagrin, I did...
William Holden: I only know from SUNSET BLVD.
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We're back from our sojurn to NYC (that's pronounced "Nyuc," as any Three Stooges fan will tell you). The daylight is already creeping through the trees, the birds are trilling and chirping and if the damn woodpecker starts doing HIS thing I'm going to have a fit.
So I will have to catch up on everything later. However, a quick step into yesterday's TOD: Tape player in car: Mason Williams' Of Time and Rivers Flowing, a wonderful compilation of American songs through the decades, all about rivers. From "Oh Shenandoah" through "Mississippi Mud" to "Moon River," a delightful treat.
I've got work in ten hours, I must to sleep. Bye.
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Good Morning!
And I mean Morning!!!
The closing night of Children of Eden went off without a hitch. We had a very good show, and a wonderful audience. And it was a very pleasant surprise to see our director, David Bell, backstage before the show. He hadn't been back since our opening night, and originally he wasn't going to be able to make it back for closing night. Hugs a-plenty all around!
I was kind of subdued throughout most of the show. I just don't like closing nights especially after a run this long (12 weeks). There were a few moments when I got a little teary-eyed, but I didn't break down into sobs - which has happened before - and which makes it very hard to read the music in front of me! ;) The cast also gave it their all - like they did every night before this. And it wasn't until the finale where I could sense some "emotion" starting to come through in their voices.
Afterwards, the theatre had a very nice party for us over at a nearby restaurant, Ella's. Great woodfired pizzas. They had three big tables set up for us, and we were just served family style. -My favorite of the evening had to be the seafood pizza - lots of roasted garlic and lots of shrimp!
I took a bunch of pictures - finally - and made the rounds. A bunch of the cast were going dancing at some club where they had to be in line by midnight, so the party didn't last too long - which was OK. Other people have/had early flights this morning, and the early finish eased some "party-pooper" feeling people were having.
As for myself...
Well, I headed back to the apartment. Got the rest of my stuff packed up. Got it all loaded in my car. Checked out of the complex. And headed back to Richmond!! *Of course, it ended up taking me a lot longer to get all my stuff together, so I didn't end up leaving Arlington until around 2:45am, and I got back to Richmond around 4:30am. And, boy, was my car full! I didn't think I had brought that much stuff down with me, but I guess all the other stuff that I brought down each time I went back and forth just accumulated. I was at the point where I just putting bags where they would stay put.
So... I got the car unpacked, and put the kitchen stuff away. As for my bedroom right now... I have some major reshuffling and excavation work to do later today.
In the meantime, I've decided to just stay up... In a few hours, I'm gonna go for breakfast at Sidewalk Cafe and spend some time with my favorite waitress, Edwina - I haven't done that since early March! Then try to make some headway with getting the rest of my stuff put away. Then over to the Greek Festival for various and sundried goodies. -The local news just did a story on the festival... LOTS OF FOOD!
I'm also glad that the weather down here in Richmond is supposed to be clear all weekend. When I left Arlington, the weather report for the DC area was calling for rain all weekend. Timing is everything. ;)
OK - I'm rambling...
And as for William Holden movies... Ditto. ;)
Beets - Love 'em - especially pickled beets. I've had fresh beets in salads, but they're usually very thinly sliced, julienned, etc. And I do like roasted beets too - a nice mix of different varieties and colors with just some olive oil and coarse salt and freshly ground black pepper.
Hmmm.... Sidewalk Cafe doesn't open up for another two hours... I could put a DVD in... Hmmm....
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Okay - so I really have to pack. My favorite Wm Holden is probably Born Yesterday, with Network coming up huge on the inside...
Yesterday morning i got to see a rehearsal of FROGS at Lincoln Center. Yowie! That's gonna be great! Then i walked uptown to Verizon to get my cellfone charged, and while I waited I went to the furniture store next door, and sat in the massage chair for half an hour. They started making strange faces at me, so I finally left, and walked across the street to the Barnes and Noble to browse... well, I'll be go ta hell if i don't run smack into my pal Elmore! I had wanted to say goodbye before I left, so we had one or two more hugs and away I went to get my fone. Then the illustrious FAIRWAY MARKET - oh, do yerselves a favor, if yu don't already know this food emporium - go food shopping here at least once in your life! I bought fabulous cheeses yesterday. Couldn't help it.
Okay, so in two hours the shuttle comes to pick me up and take me to Newark airport. Better pack and shower and check outa here. More from LA tonight or tomorrow. Bye, New York. Ci vediamo, bella citta! (Jeez, i do so hate to leave...)
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Just about 30 minutes until breakfast....
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As far as William Holden goes, I'm big on Sunset Blvd. and S. O. B., but I've never been big on him personally. He's a good actor but, IMHO (that's "in my humble opinion" for you internet newbies out there), but not a great actor.
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Okay I am confused. Why was DR MBarnum's brother at DR Jane's house?
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Gotta run. First, postcard show, then helping my sister paint her new house. I've never painted before!
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As far as William Holden goes, I'm big on Sunset Blvd. and S. O. B., but I've never been big on him personally. He's a good actor but, IMHO (that's "in my humble opinion" for you internet newbies out there), but not a great actor.
IMHO, DR Robin, he's a great FILM actor. That's a category quite apart from "great actor."
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Interesting Tony predicitions at...
http://www.usatoday.com/life/theater/awards/tonys/2004-06-03-tony-predictions_x.htm
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TOD:
For your convenience, the Willima Holden List:
1. S.O.B. (1981) .... Tim Culley
2. Earthling, The (1980) .... Patrick Foley
3. When Time Ran Out... (1980) .... Shelby Gilmore
4. Ashanti (1979) .... Jim Sandell
5. Escape to Athena (1979) (uncredited) .... Prisoner smoking a cigar in prison camp
6. Fedora (1978) .... Barry 'Dutch' Detweiler
7. Damien: Omen II (1978) .... Richard Thorn
8. Network (1976) .... Max Schumacher
9. 21 Hours at Munich (1976) (TV) .... Chief of Police Manfred Schreiber
10. Towering Inferno, The (1974) .... James Duncan
11. Cazadores, Los (1974) .... Wolkowski
12. Breezy (1973) .... Frank Harmon
13. Blue Knight, The (1973) (TV) .... Bumper Morgan
14. Revengers, The (1972) .... John Benedict
15. Wild Rovers (1971) .... Ross Bodine
16. Arbre de Noël, L' (1969) .... Laurent Ségur
17. Wild Bunch, The (1969) .... Pike Bishop
18. Devil's Brigade, The (1968) .... Lt. Col. Robert T. Frederick
19. Casino Royale (1967) .... Ransome
20. Alvarez Kelly (1966) .... Alvarez Kelly
21. 7th Dawn, The (1964) .... Ferris
22. Paris - When It Sizzles (1964) .... Richard Benson
23. Lion, The (1962) .... Robert Hayward
24. Counterfeit Traitor, The (1962) .... Eric Erickson, Code Name 'Red'/Narrator
25. Satan Never Sleeps (1962) .... Father O'Banion
26. World of Suzie Wong, The (1960) .... Robert Lomax
27. Horse Soldiers, The (1959) .... Maj. Henry 'Hank' Kendall (regimental surgeon)
28. Key, The (1958) .... David Ross
29. Bridge on the River Kwai, The (1957) .... Cmdr./Maj. Shears
30. Toward the Unknown (1956) .... Maj. Lincoln Bond
31. Proud and Profane, The (1956) .... Lieutenant Colonel Colin Black
32. Picnic (1955) .... Hal Carter
33. Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing (1955) .... Mark Elliott
34. Bridges at Toko-Ri, The (1955) .... Lt. Harry Brubaker
35. Country Girl, The (1954) .... Bernie Dodd
36. Miyamoto Musashi (1954/I) (uncredited) .... Narrator in original US version
37. Sabrina (1954) .... David Larrabee
38. Executive Suite (1954) .... McDonald Walling
39. Escape from Fort Bravo (1954) .... Capt. Roper
40. Forever Female (1953) .... Stanley Krown
41. Moon Is Blue, The (1953) .... Donald Gresham (US version)
42. Stalag 17 (1953) .... Sgt. J.J. Sefton
43. Turning Point, The (1952) .... Jerry McKibbon
44. Submarine Command (1952) .... Cmdr. White
45. Boots Malone (1952) .... Boots Malone
46. Force of Arms (1951) .... Sgt. Joe 'Pete' Peterson
47. Born Yesterday (1950) .... Paul Verrall
48. Union Station (1950) .... Detective Lt. William Calhoun
49. Sunset Blvd. (1950) .... Joe Gillis
50. Father Is a Bachelor (1950) .... Johnny Rutledge
51. Dear Wife (1949) .... Bill Seacroft
52. Miss Grant Takes Richmond (1949) .... Dick Richmond
53. Streets of Laredo (1949) .... Jim Dawkins
54. Dark Past, The (1948) .... Al Walker
55. Apartment for Peggy (1948) .... Jason
56. Rachel and the Stranger (1948) .... David Harvey
57. Man from Colorado, The (1948) .... Capt. Del Stewart
58. Dear Ruth (1947) .... Lt. William Seacroft
59. Blaze of Noon (1947) .... Colin McDonald
60. Young and Willing (1943) .... Norman Reese
61. Meet the Stewarts (1942) .... Michael Stewart
62. Remarkable Andrew, The (1942) .... Andrew Long
63. Fleet's In, The (1942) .... Casey Kirby
64. Texas (1941) .... Dan Thomas
65. I Wanted Wings (1941) .... Al Ludlow
66. Arizona (1940) .... Peter Muncie
67. Those Were the Days (1940) .... P. J. 'Petey' Simmons
68. Our Town (1940) .... George Gibbs
69. Invisible Stripes (1939) .... Tim Taylor
70. Golden Boy (1939) .... Joe Bonaparte
71. Million Dollar Legs (1939) (uncredited) .... Graduate
72. Prison Farm (1938) .... Prisoner
Since I always liked really dirty, filthy, condemed, banned-in-Boston movies, I'll go for "The Moon is Blue".
der filth-loving Brucer
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Are any DRs as surprised as I am by the posters for some new movie which feature the Black Wayan brothers as WHITE women? The women part is fine, but let's face it: if this poster showed Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt as BLACK there would be quite an uproar. Why the double standard?
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WEL - Just don't think about it, you will be accused of being humorless. It doesn't make sense, but that is the way it is. :-\
JOSE glad you are home. Yes closing nights are very emotional. I don't think I have ever been in a show that closed on a Friday night. Unusual. ;)
Hmmmmmm TOD. Well most of my favorites have been mentioned. Mr William Holden (who I first knew from his classic appearance being covered in desserts on I LOVE LUCY) is an interesting actor that I usually like. I think he looked so different as he aged though, and in movies like THE TOWERING INFERNO seemed to be so sad. SUNSET BOULEVARD and PICNIC to be sure, though as DRPANNI wrote he is TOO old for the latter, but then everyone is except Verna Felton.
BUT if I have to choose FAVORITES....the William Holden movies I like to watch and do watch again and again are:
LOVE IS A MANY SPLENDORED THING -
Han: There is an old Chinese saying, 'Do not awaken a sleeping tiger.'
Mark: Especially not in a small boat.
Han: He is dead, and yet his letters will come, one by one....
Cue Music and Tears.
THE COUNTRY GIRL (mentioned on I LOVE LUCY) and EXECUTIVE SUITE as a furniture company executive trying to save an old company....and married to June Allyson!
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Life is never what you expect:
I went to "Children of Eden" (the production famed for it's talented and sexy keyboard player) expecting to be moderately entertained by a nice local production. I had enjoyed the CD and hoped seeing a live production would add to my appreciation - and I was thrilled by the Ford's production and will surely enjoy the CD much more in the future.
I went to see "Assassins" last night, expecting to be captured by the magic I had head on the CD. My whispered words to Woody, as the curtain, fell were "This book really stinks!" The sets were ho-hum, the sound so-so, the performances mixed, and the direction god-awful! It was hard to assign guilt for the various train wrecks, car crashes, and other sundried man-made disasters on the stage - poorly conceived writing, unworthy direction or second rate acting.
This show had no idea where it was trying to go - it was "Sugar Babies" meets "Les Miz" (with a detour to Jekyll and Hyde)!
I had heard comments that some thought Neil Patrick Harris was too weak to do the Balladeer - surprise - he was the one, together with Booth (Michael Cerveris), that stood out on a stage of otherwise mediocrities. Denis O'Hare's Guiteau looked like he had just minced off the set of La Cage and Mario Cantone's Byck played like out-takes from SNL.
My take on the new controversial elements - put it back, the way it was (oh, a Li'l Abner reference). The added bits by the Proprietor add nothing, the Balladeer morphing into Oswald is given no meaning (except to save casting costs), and "Something Just Broke" is simply unneeded, misplaced, and distracting - the closing view of Oswald shooting out the Depository window blends naturally (both visually and thematically) into the opening view of "Everybody's Got the Right" - the new song (as lovely as it may be) just gets in the way.
The show opens with a sympathetic portrayal of Booth as a misguided patriot who invokes the memory of the Brutus (The Noblest Roman of Them All), both misguided Giants of men - but then we get the remaining assassins - a motley crew of self-absorbed and/or mentally deranged miss-fits - an ensemble of sickly midgets - for whom no empathy can be found . (I'll exempt Czolgosz from this list). Booth rounds up the other assassins to spur on Oswald hoping his action will give more meaning to their lives - Booth should have rounded up the other assassins and berated them for sullying the name of Noble Assassin.
Before the Tony nominations were announced, I gnu that I would have seen three contenders: Assassins, Wonderful Town, and I Am My Own Wife - and assumed I would rank them in merit in that order. Well, as I said to begin with "Life is never what you expect". My post viewing ranking:
I Am My Own Wife - deserving of best play/actor/director.
Wonderful Town - deserving of best Revival of a Musical
Assassins - at best, an Honorable mention for Cerveris.
In the past year I have had three very memorable theatrical experiences - Jewish Thighs on Broadway, I Am My Own Wife, and Children of Eden - and without the prompting of PennyO, Jenny, and Jose - Hainesies all, I would have missed out on them all.
Thank you folks.
der long-winded Brucer
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DR Robin, Bill Warren and I were friends for a number of years, and he's a wonderful writer and an excellent critic. He has one of those encyclopedic memories for film facts, and he's just an amazing person. We've drifted out of touch over the last decade, but I was always impressed by his knowledge of all film genres. Curiously, I've never read KEEP WATCHING THE SKIES though one of these days I will get to it. I owe it to Bill.
William Holden, one of the most glorious films actors of his day, and one of the handsomest men in film history. Favorite film would have to be SUNSET BLVD. but I also think he's memorable in GOLDEN BOY, SABRINA, THE COUNTRY GIRL, PICNIC, NETWORK, and so many more.
On a personal note, when the studios would allow him to have it, his hirsute chest was one of the marvels of the age. Sadly, for PICNIC, it was deemed that he shave his chest robbing us of all that glorious fur. At least in his Oscar winning STALAG 17, we see the REAL William Holden.
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And once again it's time for...
BET YOU DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE HUNGARIAN!
In honor of Tony Weekend, it's TWO for price of one...
#1...[DRUM ROLL]
ALBRECHT DURER (b. 5/21/1471, Nürnberg, d. 4/6/1528)
Perhaps the Greatest "German" artist of the Renaissance era. Also the most important of the Renaissance Mathematicians - Father of Descriptive Geometry
The third son of Albrecht Ajtos and Barbara Holfer. One of their eighteen children. The Ajtos family came from Hungary. The name Ajtos means " like a door" in Hungarian. When Albrecht Ajtos senior and his brothers came to Germany they chose the name Türer which sounds like the German "Tür" meaning door. The name changed to Dürer but Albrecht Dürer senior always signed himself Türer rather than Dürer.
#2...[DRUM ROLL]
PAUL SIMON (b. October 13, 1941 in Newark, New Jersey)
Parents were Hungarian Jews, Louis and Belle Simon. His father was a bass player bandleader who appeared on CBS's Arthur Godfrey, Jackie Gleason and Gary Moore shows, sometimes under the name Lee Sims. He later went back to school to earn his master's degree in teaching, and taught at New York Community College. His mother was a high school English teacher before her children were born.
AND A BONUS FOR WOLFMAN FANS!
ILONA MASSEY - nee Hajmássy
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Just about to hop in the shower and then dash away to my friend's apartment so we can begin our sojourn to Westport, CT. I have no idea what time we'll be getting home (probably 1-ish), so you'll not be hearing much out of me today. Hope it's a good one for you all and Sandra--keep your hands off of those cookies! ;)
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I'm a bit surprised by the "I only know one William Holden movie" comments. Not that you need to know so many William Holden movies other than that he has appeared in several film classics that you should absolutely put on your must-see lists. To only know Sunset Blvd. is not to have seen David Lean's Bridge on the River Kwai. Or Josh Logan's Picnic. Or Billy Wilder's Stalag 17. Hie yourselves to the video store and get some of these.
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And might I just say where in tarnation IS everyone?
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...And dare I admit I like THE WILD BUNCH? Doesn't fit with my image at all. But yes, I am Panni S and I like THE WILD BUNCH.
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TOD:
(in order of most watched Holden performances)
S.O.B.
BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI
SUNSET BLVD.
SABRINA
PICNIC
STALAG 17
THE TOWERING INFERNO
and though it's a horrible film, i still find enjoyment in PARIS WHEN IT SIZZLES.
Someone was speaking of Scarlet Street magazine earlier, and i will say that the mag's editor is NOT a Holden fan; but, i firmly believe that he was a great FILM actor (thank you, Panni), equally at home in comedy, drama and films with O. J. Simpson.
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I have to admit that I have never seen THE WILD BUNCH. At the time of its release, it was for its day super-violent. I realize, of course, that with the violence soaked film world of the 70s, 80s, 90s, and the new century, it probably looks tame now, but those old announcements of its violence still make me wary. (I really have a hard time with bullets going into flesh.)
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I just want to express appreciation for Dear Reader Der Brucer's
comeback return to this site. It wasn't the same without you, DRDB.
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Yes, I re-watched PARIS WHEN IT SIZZLES a week or so ago. Some real potential there for something very unusual, but inspiration in writing just dried up, sad to say. Holden and Hepburn are always a treat together.
I watched it again because Noel Coward mentioned in his diaries the film, how much he adored Audrey and Bill, and how much they paid him (and how beautiful and huge the suite was they put him in during the shooting) for basically two or three days' work.
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Well, Dear Readers, either I was terribly naive or I put a jinx on myself with my last post yesterday. It took me forever--and I mean forever-- to get to Ojai. Stop and go on the 101 the whole way.
The trip was worth it. I had never been to the Ojai music festival before, and the setting is quite lovely. Far more laid back and much much much (that is three muches) smaller than the Hollywood Bowl, attending a concert at this festival is a real pleasure.
I don't know why Carl Orff's Die Kluge ("The Wise Woman") is not peformed regularly. It is a perfectly charming opera--suitable for young people as well as adults--with a book based on a story by the Brothers Grimm. The music is filled with melody and, in particular, interesting orchestrations that produce appropriately evocative sounds to accompany the events of the story.
The piece was sung in English by an attractive cast (members of the Los Angeles Opera's young singer development effort) and partially staged in front of the orchestra, which was led by Kent Nagano.
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I have to get busy, but must say more about William Holden. Haven't thought about him in a long time, but I used to have a major crush on him. What I find interesting about WH as an actor, particularly in the later years, is that there's something unspoken (and mealncholy at times) underneath the performance - as if we're not seeing it all, as if there were a very private layer which is impenetrable. And isn't that the way it is with most people you meet? Sometimes even people close to you. I always find performances where it's ALL there on the surface pretty boring. It can work for a short period - and then my mind goes elsewhere. Nice scenery.
IMHO, most great film actors have this quality. The "I know you, but I'd like to get to know you even better" quality. So you keep coming back, wanting more. (Of course, it doesn't hurt either that he was one helluva good looking man.)
If that makes any sense, congratulations. Let me know what I just said.
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And might I just say where in tarnation IS everyone?
Could be they hied to the Video Store.
On our yesterday sojourn to NYC we "hied" it to the Virgin Megastore at Times Square - the Big Aplles latest innovation in ensuring that all visitors to Times Square leave with empty bill folds.
I added:
"Adventures of Robin Hood" - 65th Anniversary 2 Disk Special Edition.
The finally remastered wide-screen special edition of "Around the Word in 80 Days".
Remastered "North by Northwest" - with extras
"Gaslight" (both 1940 and 1944 versions plus extras including "Reflections on Gaslight with Angela Lansbury)
(A film I've never seen!) - "preserves the aspect ratio of the original theatrical presentation"
"Marvin's Room" (starring my favorite lost puppy)
The Digitally Remasterd CD of the OBC "Li'l Abner" with lots of previously unreleased material.
Woody picked up the Special Editon "Nashville" DVD and "Triplets of Belleville" and added "Bounce" and "Elegies" to the CD collection.
On our return we discovered that the dogs had developed a fondness for things HHW theatrical by devouring the entire Jewel Case of "Beyond Therapy" (fortunately leaving the CD untouched).
der broker Brucer
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I just want to express appreciation for Dear Reader Der Brucer's comeback return to this site. It wasn't the same without you, DRDB.
Aw, shucks, gee, um, thanx.
der Brucer (doing his best Forrest Gump impression)
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Good Afternoon!
My breakfast was wonderful - Eggs Sarducci - sort of their take on Eggs Florentine - (from the plate up: toasted English muffin, sauteed spinach, tomato slice, egg over easy, swiss cheese) - with hash browns on the side - well, this morning, they were more like "breakfast potatoes". And it was nice catching up with Edwina again. And since it was a slow morning, I was able to have a nice, roomy booth all to myself. Plenty of room to read the morning papers.
And now I'm back in my apartment... Just watching some TV, and trying to keep from napping. I've had such a strange sleep schedule this week, I just need to stay up and reset my internal clock.
However, I do need to rearrange the kitchen so that when they fix the ceiling next week - I hope - the workmen won't be getting "stuff" all over my pots and pans. And then I will need to make some headway in my bedroom eventually... I at least need to clear a path to my closet so I can put some clothes away... and then "unclear" the path again afterwards probably.
DR DERBRUCER - Thank you for the Eden compliment. As for Assassins - it truly is one of those shows that you either love or hate. And the book seems to be the deal breaker. When I first did the show, the book drove me up the wall. But it did grow on me.
Another thing I noticed about the show - and it could apply to other shows too - is that if someone in the cast is not "on" that night, the whole mood and tone of the piece can be affected. And as much as some of the portrayals of the assassins and would-be assassins could be played totally for laughs and schtick, if there's not something "human" about them, then there's no real reason for the show, imho. What can make a production of Assassins truly frightening is when an audience member catches a spark of themselves in one - or more - of the characters on stage. The frustrations, the disappointment, the anger, etc. The only difference between "them" and "us" is that they picked up a gun and pointed it a president. -Instead of yelling to the air on the way home from work. -Writing a letter you never send. -Doing a few extra laps in the pool. -Punching a hole in a wall.
Well... I need to walk around for a bit - I can feel the "nappies" coming on....
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I don't know why Carl Orff's Die Kluge ("The Wise Woman") is not peformed regularly. It is a perfectly charming opera--suitable for young people as well as adults--with a book based on a story by the Brothers Grimm. The music is filled with melody and, in particular, interesting orchestrations that produce appropriately evocative sounds to accompany the events of the story.
Do you recommend the pricey CD import?
der Brucer (always on the lookout for youngster friendly material)
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And as much as some of the portrayals of the assassins and would-be assassins could be played totally for laughs and schtick, if there's not something "human" about them, then there's no real reason for the show, imho.
Ay, there's the rub. This production had, in the main, cartoons for Assassins.
der Brucer (the egg dish sounds good)
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The only William Holden movie from which I know a little is The Moon is Blue, but only because of the episode of M*A*S*H called The Moon is Not Blue.
Unseemly Haines His Way T-shirt, too-small boys' plaid pajama bottoms, new socks, saddle shoes.
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Whilst a-brousing at Virgin I saw:
True Romance - Unrated Director's Cut (Two-Disc Special Edition) (1993)
2003 Nominated: DVD Premiere Award - Best Audio Commentary, Library Release
Quentin Tarantino
For the Unrated Director's Cut.
Have heard nothing about the flick, but it has a cast of death and good reviews.
Any comments?
der Brucer (with an ever inquiring mind)
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DRJAY do you recommend a particular recording of DIE KLUGE. I would like to hear it.
Yes, I am glad to see DB back as well.
And I have some shows that grow on me as well, DRJOSE. The sad part is that most shows are only seen once by any particular audience member. I always go back to see a show I liked...or look for other productions....but usually if (and I am sure it's the show NOT the production), I don't go again to see something. Even in a bad or uneven production, the GOOD shines through.
And I am hoping the only difference between me and an assassin is NOT that he/she picked up a gun.
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Okay I am confused. Why was DR MBarnum's brother at DR Jane's house?
He deliver's our Fed-X packages. I must add he is the nicest, most efficient Fed-X person we have ever had, and we thought so before we knew he was Michael's brother. :)
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Does any DR know actress/singer Ilona Dulaski?
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Sorry Beekay - don't think anyone else will understand. I'lll make it up you and read another Janet Frame book.
I wonder if any DRs have seen "An Angel At My Table".
I did. It has been awhile and I had to look up the movie to jog my memory. At least this time I have a better excuse for not remembering. :D
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Does any DR know actress/singer Ilona Dulaski?
YES!!! Why do you ask? She actually works a lot in the DC area. In fact, she was in the Sweeney Todd at the KenCen two summers ago.
-Now there may be more than one Ilona Dulaski, but....
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Are any DRs as surprised as I am by the posters for some new movie which feature the Black Wayan brothers as WHITE women? The women part is fine, but let's face it: if this poster showed Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt as BLACK there would be quite an uproar. Why the double standard?
LOL-those guys look way to creepy for me to watch the movie. To me, the poster fits the story plot and I didn’t think anymore about it, except it just looks stupid and creepy.
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François next time I’m in France I shall try the beets, if the opportunity presents itself.
Jason, I think you were traumatized by that woman yesterday. ;D
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DerBrucer, thanks for the list. I was in the process of looking for one and you saved me the effort. There are so many wonderful movies on the list. I had forgotten about RACHEL AND THE STRANGER which is a favorite of mine.
Panni, yes you may dare to mention you like THE WILD BUNCH. It is also one of my favorites.
My top three favorites are:
SABRINA
BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI
BORN YESTERDAY
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My favorite William Holden movie is Sunset Boulevard, with Network a very close second.
I watched Picnic last night on TCM and I thought it was awful. Strange, because I remembered liking it a lot. But I found it to be an incredibly overacted and overdramatized film. (It was also rather funny to see another parade of half naked males in a Josh Logan movie. That guy sure liked his beefcake.)
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Charles Pogue, I hope you and the lovely wife are doing better each day. I know when the time comes and we loose our Echo we will be devastated.
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LOL DRJOSE - Her brother is in STATE FAIR with me in a barn in the middle of a field in Putnam County, Indiana! It is a small world!
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Jane, we are doing fine, Thanks. RACHEL & THE STRANGER is also one of my favourite Bill Holden films (and one of my favourite Robert Mitchums as well). The others would be SUNSET BLVD. & NETWORK. And, though I haven't seen it in years, I remember being right fond of DEAR RUTH.
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And I have some shows that grow on me as well, DRJOSE. The sad part is that most shows are only seen once by any particular audience member....
That's why I like to usher for shows, especially local productions, so that I can see them more than once, and I usually get to.
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I watched Picnic last night on TCM .... (It was also rather funny to see another parade of half naked males in a Josh Logan movie. That guy sure liked his beefcake.)
And this is a problem...why?? ;)
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That's why I like to usher for shows, especially local productions, so that I can see them more than once, and I usually get to.
I do, too DR GEORGE. I love to watch a show many many times. That's why if I am not working on a show, I volunteer to do the lights or work in the booth...it's amazing to watch a show from opening to closing....see the different audience reactions....and see how the actors grow (or not)...it's almost as much fun as DOING a show! ;D
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There are two interesting articles in this week's New York Magazine. The first is on the Tony Awards Race (http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/arts/features/9225/) and the second is a not-too-flattering portrait on Michael Riedel (http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/arts/features/9224/) (as if any portrait could be flattering.)
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And this is a problem...why?? ;)
I don't have a problem with it. It's just funny to now see Logan's movies ever since I first realized that he was very much into the male physique.
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Page Three Dance--Everybody Conga!
(http://img42.photobucket.com/albums/v130/WandaDuck/Conga.jpg)
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Charles Pogue, I'm pleased to know you are both fine.
Now that you mention it, I would enjoy watching DEAR RUTH again.
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My new high Bookworm score: 611,640 - not up there in the Sandra heights, but pretty darn good for an elderly Jew.
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LOL DRJOSE - Her brother is in STATE FAIR with me in a barn in the middle of a field in Putnam County, Indiana! It is a small world!
It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
...Oh, we did that whole thing a few days ago... sorry. :P
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LOL DR JOSE.
Interesting articles DTM. I don't mind Reidel - he is what he is. And some of the things he writes are funny....truth usually is.
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The statement,
I didn't like the show the first time I saw it, but after subsequent viewings, it grew on me
always bothers me.
It's very expensive to go to the theatre. And the successful show (or theatre artist) must entertain the first time out. Normally, writers don't get a second chance to convince an audience their work is worthwhile.
That's not to say I'm not pleased to find that some of you have found enjoyment in a show that you didn't like the first time around. I applaud you for your faith and perseverance.
Seems to me that human beings run a wide gamut of mental health. Some of us need to see shrinks regularly, and that's fine. Some of us are crazy enough to fire guns at presidents, and that's just not acceptable behavior. When I first saw Assassins, years ago, I was interested in what Weidman and Sondheim had to say about the collection of crazies they portrayed. The women who shot at Ford have a dialogue that's kind of a collegiate comedy sketch. Oswald, they suggest, was inspired by the assassins of the past (and future). I learned nothing new about Hinckly. Nothing I didn't already know about Czolgosz. Learned some stuff about the ones I haven't mentioned. I don't think there's any connection between me and any assassin. Sure, I have passionate political beliefs, but many of these people didn't. I would never fire a gun, own a gun, or touch a gun. So, nothing in Assassins indicts me, or makes me feel I've anything in common with the criminally insane.
To tell the truth, I'm at a loss to figure out what Sondheim and Weidman are saying about the American assassins, but I haven't seen this Broadway version yet.
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JR - The CD has arrived! What a wonderfully eclectic mix! Where else but on this, the best sit on the Internet, could I meet a person who would put together a CD for me which features (among MANY glorious selections) Annette Sings! and the Hawaiian War Chant? (Not to mention the 50 Foot Woman Medley and I Love Lucy). I'm going out to do a few errands and will be listening in the car. THANK YOU, JR!
(http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/party/party-smiley-017.gif)(http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/party/party-smiley-018.gif)
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So happy you are enjoying it DRPANNI! LOL....it was made by human hands for human hearts and ears!
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Speaking of which WEL - thanks for the MAY theatre care package. Whew! It is wonderful to see the programs!!!!
You don't know....water in the desert! Haven't had a chance to read them all, but I will do it when I get home from STATE FAIR...the show, not the event!
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Hey, nice going BK.
I am hungry.
My brother is being annoying.
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Hello, all! I was E&T yesterday, still trying to meet my Monday morning deadline for this concert with the New York and Seattle Men's Choruses, "Out On Broadway."
I have to be finished by 7am, get everything copied and into Fed Ex, clean house, pack, and meet the bus to Camp Goodspeed by 2pm! If I'm lucky I'll have time to edit a Eubie Blake tune or a BABES IN TOYLAND score before noon! So, this may be my last post for a couple of weeks until I get back into the City to gather some mail, maybe do a bit of editorial work and see the new Harry Potter film.
Dear Friend BK, Glenn Young of Applause Books is not returning my inquiries about your doing a reading, I'm sorry to say. I've called around three times now, after I stopped in the store and left my card, and I'm feeling a bit discouraged. Would some NYC DR like to take up the slack while I'm away?
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The statement,
I didn't like the show the first time I saw it, but after subsequent viewings, it grew on me
always bothers me.
It's very expensive to go to the theatre. And the successful show (or theatre artist) must entertain the first time out. Normally, writers don't get a second chance to convince an audience their work is worthwhile.
That's not to say I'm not pleased to find that some of you have found enjoyment in a show that you didn't like the first time around. I applaud you for your faith and perseverance.
Seems to me that human beings run a wide gamut of mental health. Some of us need to see shrinks regularly, and that's fine. Some of us are crazy enough to fire guns at presidents, and that's just not acceptable behavior. When I first saw Assassins, years ago, I was interested in what Weidman and Sondheim had to say about the collection of crazies they portrayed. The women who shot at Ford have a dialogue that's kind of a collegiate comedy sketch. Oswald, they suggest, was inspired by the assassins of the past (and future). I learned nothing new about Hinckly. Nothing I didn't already know about Czolgosz. Learned some stuff about the ones I haven't mentioned. I don't think there's any connection between me and any assassin. Sure, I have passionate political beliefs, but many of these people didn't. I would never fire a gun, own a gun, or touch a gun. So, nothing in Assassins indicts me, or makes me feel I've anything in common with the criminally insane.
To tell the truth, I'm at a loss to figure out what Sondheim and Weidman are saying about the American assassins, but I haven't seen this Broadway version yet.
I guess - well, not guess - what I am trying to say about Assassins is that the "success" of the evening depends upon how the director wishes to portray the people, the assassins, in the show. -Regardless of whatever Mssrs. Sondheim and Weidman had in mind; regardless of whatever point they were trying to make when they were writing it.
I've seen Assassins a few times, and I've MDed the show too. For myself, the show only really worked when the director and actors found a way to make the assassins sympathetic. Or at least get the audience to ask, "What exactly was the one straw that broke the camel's back? What pushed them over the edge?" -And then to backtrack to the fact that these assassins, these people were "normal" at one time. Just like we are "normal".
-And at times, this approach may seem to work against Weidman's text.
And I would also say that if a piece of theatre, movie, book, teleplay was not "totally entertaining" the first time I saw it, but it made me want to try to figure it out, to want to see it again if possible, then I would think some sort of "mission" has been accomplished. And I would also venture that some of the most acclaimed pieces of Art throughout history were not fully understood nor fully entertaining upon first experience.
-Sorry for starting all those sentences with "and"...
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And that's okay.
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I am at work right now and I've been here since noon. Anyway, I logged into my computer and went to the Comcast.net homepage and they had an article saying that former President Reagan's family had been called home because he's taken a turn for the worse and could die within the next weeks or months...they didn't know. I just went back to Comcast.net and it's just been announced that he's died. "In Paris, White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said President Bush was notified of Reagan's death in Paris at about 4:10 p.m., EDT, by White House chief of staff Andy Card." That would make the announcement at 1:10 PDT. Here's (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/R/REAGAN_OBIT?SITE=PAWAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT) a link to the Associated press story (which is where Comcast got its story).
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And I would also say that if a piece of theatre, movie, book, teleplay was not "totally entertaining" the first time I saw it, but it made me want to try to figure it out, to want to see it again if possible, then I would think some sort of "mission" has been accomplished. And I would also venture that some of the most acclaimed pieces of Art throughout history were not fully understood nor fully entertaining upon first experience.
I think we're in agreement then, DR Jose. If the audience for Assassins feels its gotten its $100 worth, then my hat's off to Sondheim, Weidman and Mantello.
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Still listening, JR. Listened in the car, now have it on at home. Wonderful! I'm going to pause now. Have to do more writing - and this is definitely not background music.
I guess when they ask me in years to come "What were you doing when you heard Ronald Reagan had died?" I can answer, "'Listening to 'Salt Peanuts.'..."
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I am very happy that my DVR picked up last night a movie I've been trying to get for a long time - PORTRAIT OF JENNIE. I've always found this movie strange, lovely, compelling. Seems like there was an actual DVD of it released, but I think it's out of print. At any rate, I have my own now. Looking forward to watching it tonight or tomorrow. I started THE LAST OF SHEILA this afternoon and will finish it tonight. Didn't mind stopping after I'd started since I've seen it many times and know what's going to happen.
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Okay, which of our East Coasters can take up the slack re the book signing. Elmore has tried with Applause, to no avail, so why doesn't someone try The Drama Book Shop.
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BK, your Derby-winning horse, Smarty Jones, will be running momentarily on NBC in The Belmont Stakes, trying to become the first undefeated horse to win the Triple Crown since Seattle Slew. Tune in!
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Noel posted:
The statement,
I didn't like the show the first time I saw it, but after subsequent viewings, it grew on me
always bothers me.
It's very expensive to go to the theatre. And the successful show (or theatre artist) must entertain the first time out. Normally, writers don't get a second chance to convince an audience their work is worthwhile.
Jose replied:
And I would also say that if a piece of theatre, movie, book, teleplay was not "totally entertaining" the first time I saw it, but it made me want to try to figure it out, to want to see it again if possible, then I would think some sort of "mission" has been accomplished. And I would also venture that some of the most acclaimed pieces of Art throughout history were not fully understood nor fully entertaining upon first experience.
Which dialogue highlights a unique artistic dilemma for theatrical works – they usually get only one bite of the apple.
We think nothing of “warming up” to an orchestral piece, a painting, a sculpture, or a collection of poems. Indeed, most of us relate fondly how the work “grew on us”, how we delighted in discovering new nuances not at first apparent. Some might suggest that a hallmark of great art is that it presents itself in many layers of craftsmanship – the first piques our curiosity, the next engages us, and, like Eliot’s (or, if you insist, Dante’s) multifoliate rose, following layers unfold revealing new delights. How many given a second chance to see Seurat’s “Sunday Afternoon”, or to hear again Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony, or visit anew with the Pieta, would reply, “No Thanks. Been, there, done that.”
Because theatre at it’s heart demands our “presence” (and as Noel so rightfully observes, charges us dearly for the pleasure) it suffers from a “sink or swim” exposure syndrome not afflicted on the other arts.
der Brucer (waiting 47 years to use "multifoliate" in a sentence)
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Smarty didn't make it, lost in the final seconds of the race.
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Not a happy news day for Philadelphia Republicans.
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Do you recommend the pricey CD import?
der Brucer (always on the lookout for youngster friendly material)
I am not familiar with any of the recordings of the opera, which I assume are in the original German, so I really can't say.
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DRJAY do you recommend a particular recording of DIE KLUGE. I would like to hear it.
See post above. Last night was the first time I ever heard a note of the piece.
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DR Jane: How on earth did you figure out that DR MBarnum's brother was your Fed Ex guy?
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LOL DR JOSE.
Interesting articles DTM. I don't mind Reidel - he is what he is. And some of the things he writes are funny....truth usually is.
Yeah, Reidel can be funny. But there's always a mean ugly streak behind it. The little boy who got beat up regularly still has some issues that he needs to deal with.
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Just saw the news about President Reagan when I brought up my yahoo homepage.
I watched the Belmont Stakes. WOW!
I was hoping Smarty Jones would win. But I could see the winning horse (Birdstone) coming up the side.
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Evening all! Sorry I didn’t make it back to post last night. I got tied up on the phone when I called a friend about the waterspout. I had to tell about my trips and by the time I got off the phone it was past ten!
Beets! I’m not 100% crazy on them but have ate them since I was a kid. My Mother always makes them with the juice in the can, a little water, vinegar, salt, pepper and sugar. She also cuts an onion and puts that in with it. Sometimes she puts hard boiled eggs in with it as well. It turns them pinkish/red.
She does the same with green beans.
I’ve made both of them and taken them to work for different dinners we’ve had and people seem to have liked them. I’ve been asked for the recipe many times.
I have to say that I like the green beans more than I like the beets.
Oy, Jason! I don’t know what to say about what you saw! Gross. I’m glad you didn’t have your camera either! LOL!
Tomovoz, I have the DVD of the Mr. Crawford version of “Barnum”. I hope you enjoy your copy as much as I have mine. I love the “bloopers” that were left in.
Elmore, I hope you finish what your working on and have a good time where your going. We’ll miss you on the board!
Is JAG on DVD? I’ll have to get those if it is. I love that show. It’s one of the few that I take the time to sit and watch.
While I was out and about today I bought the book, “Wicked”. I’m looking forward to reading it but I have to read “Dune-The Machine Crusade” first.
Someday, when I get the bigger house, I will have a room like yours Bruce and I will have all hardback copies of the entire Dune series. I know I missed the “Ask BK a question day” but I’m going to ask anyway. Have you ever read “Dune”? Has anyone else here read it? What did you think?
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I ducked into my local second-run art house movie theatre this afternoon and caught up with Connie and Carla, a thoroughly enjoyable piece of musical cinematic fluff.
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Forgive me, those of you who will. My heart does go out to Mrs. Reagan and the Reagan family, but the little bit I saw on the TV this afternoon looked more like beatification than news coverage.
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Sorry to hear about President Reagan but he did live a long, full life. To think some of the others (like Errol Flynn) who could have still been with us. If only... They passed away much to soon.
I'm also sorry about "Smarty". Aww, what a shame. I would be tempted to pull my horse in and let him win since he came so close. I know, I know, you can't do that but it doesn't seem fair for him to lose in the last moments of the race.
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Smarty didn't make it, lost in the final seconds of the race.
...and not by much:
(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/more/06/05/belmont.gamer.ap/p1_belmont_ap.jpg)
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I could easily see liking a show that you previously didn't care for. A new cast or a new production could certainly make a difference.
I am so tired. I painted (for the first time!) and cleaned my sister's new house. And I must say painting is totally exhausting. We were priming the bedroom. And my brother-in-law did the top, my sis did the floor and I used a roller and did the middles. I really liked it (except for when I had to look up and stretch my neck). But by the end I was burning up. Oy.
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Yes, ninety-three. Nice long life. If I should live so long I certainly wouldn't want anyone MOURNING me, just celebrating whatever they happened to like about me.
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Good Dusk!
I'm back from the Greek Festival. Today's menu: calamari (very good), souvlaki sandwich (ok - but pretty decent for a sandwich from a warming cabinet), loukamades (YUMMY!!!- And just oozing with warm honey!), pastry assortment (yet to be sampled). I would have stood in the line for the "hot entree tent", but the line(s) were ridiculously long - probably 25-30 minutes. Most people had a bottle or two of wine while standing in line with their friends. I went by myself, and I'm not in a wine mode either right now, so... They have a drive up kiosk, and I may just do that tomorrow for lunch so I can have some of the dee-lish spanakopita and tiropita.
*I had never been to the festival around dinner time, and I thought it was busy during the lunch period... WOW! It was nice seeing everyone getting out in the very unseasonably cool weather - most people had jackets on - and carrying a very Richmond tradition. And I also ran into a few actors and techies from past productions.
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Forgive me, those of you who will. My heart does go out to Mrs. Reagan and the Reagan family, but the little bit I saw on the TV this afternoon looked more like beatification than news coverage.
And they started the process before he even drew his final breath...
However, I suspect "protocol" requires that all negative comment be reserved until after the internment.
Remember how much "rehabilitation" Nixon got between
his last breath and burial.
It could be worse - some "fair and balanced" producer could call in Michael Moore for commentary.
der Brucer (rarely surpised by the expected)
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Matt H, having read, and loved the book, I was disappointed in PORTRAIT OF JENNIE. After reading the following link, maybe I should check it out again.
http://home.hiwaay.net/~oliver/portrait.html
Jennifer, one snowy day I posted a pic from our front door. MBarnum, who is from this neck of the woods, said his brother delivers in the country and did we know him.
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Thanks DR Danise. I have had the video of Barnum for ages (from TV) and am looking forward to the arrival of the DVD - and NOW the extras.
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I would be tempted to pull my horse in and let him win since he came so close. I know, I know, you can't do that but it doesn't seem fair for him to lose in the last moments of the race.
I wouldn't put this on my Job application for Jockey!
I assume you don't play Ice Hockey ::)
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And one for Mahler.
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Welcome eight GUESTS. We're talkin' about William Holden.
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Quote from Danise:
"I got tied up on the phone when I called a friend about the waterspout....."
My, quite an interesting sexual adventure!! :o
-- Sorry, Danise! I'd write anything for a laugh..... and I do! "
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Yes, ninety-three. Nice long life. If I should live so long I certainly wouldn't want anyone MOURNING me, just celebrating whatever they happened to like about me.
Should you live 'til 93, I would be delighted to say a few nice words.
der Brucer (looking forward to the day - no, not BK's untimely death - my passing into the second hundred years!)
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Unless it becomes an all-Reagan show (which I doubt)
CBS SUNDAY MORNING early tomorrow is supposed to have a piece on the new Broadway or Broadway trends or something of that sort. Their items are usually interesting and well presented. (Last week's Broadway understudy piece was excellent.) So, for those who are up and about early-ish on Sunday, you might take a look. IMHO, CBS SUNDAY MORNING, no matter what the line-up, is one of the few network programs worth watching every week. It hardly ever disappoints. A bastion of thoughtful, civilized programming in the vast wasteland.
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I liked KING'S ROW and DARK VICTORY.
I remember DEATH VALLEY DAYS.
Even BEDTIME FOR BONZO has its moments.
93 years is a long time to live, with his body fraught with an incurable disease, it would be easy to say that Ronnie is finally at peace.
Still and all, should he be remembered by me, unfortunately it will be because of his policy of non-action in a nation's time of need and ANGELS IN AMERICA is the perfect movie for a dreary Saturday evening.
but, back to William Holden:
DR MattH - I'm in complete and total agreement with you on PARIS WHEN IT SIZZLES - it could've boiled, instead it merely simmered.
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Quote from Danise:
"I got tied up on the phone when I called a friend about the waterspout....."
My, quite an interesting sexual adventure!! :o
-- Sorry, Danise! I'd write anything for a laugh..... and I do! "
If only it were so! ;D :o
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but, back to William Holden:
DR MattH - I'm in complete and total agreement with you on PARIS WHEN IT SIZZLES - it could've boiled, instead it merely simmered.
Am I correct in remembering that, no matter what the movie was doing, Miss Hepburn and Mr. Holden were boiling?
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Am I correct in remembering that, no matter what the movie was doing, Miss Hepburn and Mr. Holden were boiling?
Their sparks did ignite a palpable flame.
(and where's an emoticom for *fire* when you need one?)
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I wouldn't put this on my Job application for Jockey!
I assume you don't play Ice Hockey ::)
No, I don't play hockey but I am "aware" (how could I not be with all the media coverage, not to mention the men at work talking about it) that the Tampa Bay Lightning are in the playoffs.
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but, back to William Holden:
DR MattH - I'm in complete and total agreement with you on PARIS WHEN IT SIZZLES - it could've boiled, instead it merely simmered.
Well, I guess they were right when they did not cast Hepburn(t) and Holden in IS PARIS BURNING? then.
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Noel posted:
The statement,
I didn't like the show the first time I saw it, but after subsequent viewings, it grew on me
always bothers me.
It's very expensive to go to the theatre. And the successful show (or theatre artist) must entertain the first time out. Normally, writers don't get a second chance to convince an audience their work is worthwhile.
Jose replied:
And I would also say that if a piece of theatre, movie, book, teleplay was not "totally entertaining" the first time I saw it, but it made me want to try to figure it out, to want to see it again if possible, then I would think some sort of "mission" has been accomplished. And I would also venture that some of the most acclaimed pieces of Art throughout history were not fully understood nor fully entertaining upon first experience.
Which dialogue highlights a unique artistic dilemma for theatrical works – they usually get only one bite of the apple.
We think nothing of “warming up” to an orchestral piece, a painting, a sculpture, or a collection of poems. Indeed, most of us relate fondly how the work “grew on us”, how we delighted in discovering new nuances not at first apparent. Some might suggest that a hallmark of great art is that it presents itself in many layers of craftsmanship – the first piques our curiosity, the next engages us, and, like Eliot’s (or, if you insist, Dante’s) multifoliate rose, following layers unfold revealing new delights. How many given a second chance to see Seurat’s “Sunday Afternoon”, or to hear again Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony, or visit anew with the Pieta, would reply, “No Thanks. Been, there, done that.”
Because theatre at it’s heart demands our “presence” (and as Noel so rightfully observes, charges us dearly for the pleasure) it suffers from a “sink or swim” exposure syndrome not afflicted on the other arts.
der Brucer (waiting 47 years to use "multifoliate" in a sentence)
I remember reading that Sondheim has said that he knows that most audiences only get one chance to see a show and that he writes so that the audiences (and I'll add, "if they're paying attention") get everything the first time. ("Get" as in "receive"...he gives them everything they need to know.)
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Danise I could not find if JAG is on DVD yet but I did find two sites to petition for it. On the petition sites I did not see any dates to know if they are still valid.
http://www.maconjag.tvheaven.com/id363.htm
http://www.petitiononline.com/jagfans/petition.html
I read all the DUNE books. I thought the first one was great, second okay and then wondered why I continued to read them.
Speaking of reading, I have a book I must finish by Monday night. Normally I would just read most of the night, but lately a wonderful thing has been happening-I read a few pages, then fall asleep.
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I thought the problem with PARIS WHEN IT SIZZLES was the script. Audrey did have beautiful clothes to wear and was beautiful to look at.
Bye, have a nice rest of the evening.
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My favorite William Holden film is L. A. AT LAST where he meets Lucy Ricardo at the Brown Derby.
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Off to see The Day Before After Tomorrow or whatever the HELL it is. Keep the home fries burning until my return.
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Jane,
Have you read the new "Dune" books by Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson? They are in a word, "Wonderful."
Thanks for the "JAG" websites.
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Not a happy news day for Philadelphia Republicans.
With no disrespect intended to the memory of President Reagan, I can well imagine there has been a dearth of happy news days for Republicans for some time now.
I can assure all of them that some of the rest of us remain unhappy, too, but for different reasons.
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By the way....Richard Nixon was a hero of mine.
Ronald Reagan was NO Richard Nixon.
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Still working on catching up. Got through yesterday's posts, and may I say that
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]I LOVE BEETS![/move]
Well, I'm not fond of the canned stuff. They taste like cans. But I love to roast them in the oven, slip the skins off of them while they're still warm, dice them and add a pat of butter and who needs anything else? Yummers!
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I LOVE BEETS!
Well, I'm not fond of the canned stuff.
still and all, how do you feel about HOME CANNED BEETS? ? ? And you know I'm not talking about putting beets into tin cans at home!
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We watched - it takes a few years to catch up with the world - "Blue Velvet" last night. Uncomfortable movie with MacLachlan and Dern characters hard to accept as believabe at all. Atmosphere created by lighting and music was great.
I think I need to watch the extras on the DVD. I enjoyed Mulholand Drive (sp?) a lot more but did not ever see Twin Peaks.
Any comments?
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To be fair to the film PORTRAIT OF JENNIE, I understand that it was severely cut to its present short length. Selznick was so single-minded when it came to Jennifer Jones that he was the worst possible producer for the project. I don't think the film is anything like what it might have been without his interference. That said, I still find it beautiful and haunting. I have never read the book, however.
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What a bizarre day this has been. Started three times to watch and continue THE LAST OF SHEILA, and haven't gotten to the end yet.
Raquel Welch is NO actress, at least not in this.
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Can't comment, DR Tomovoz...
I have NEVER ever seen any David Lynch movie, and I hardly dare to say so here for fear of getting... lynched!
I know he has turned his talents to music too now....
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Raquel Welch?
You mean the lady who sells wigs?
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Thanks for the no comment any way François. Roy Orbison, Bobby Vinton and Ketty Lester are not on my playlist for a while until the movie fades a bit!
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Raquel Welch?
You mean the lady who sells wigs?
No, no!
The lady whose presence onstage is insurance that the show is closing.
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Raquel Welch?
You mean the lady who sells wigs?
She sells wigs?
No wonder so many have wanted to see her with her top off.
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I'd like to explode one myth about Ronald Reagan. He is not responsible for ending Communisn in Russia or the "Evil Empire" as his touts love to call it. Communism in Russia was simply a failing, flailing system that merely happen to implode in on itself while Reagan was in office. He had nothing to do with it. It would have collapsed no matter who was president at the time.
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still and all, how do you feel about HOME CANNED BEETS? ? ? And you know I'm not talking about putting beets into tin cans at home!
Haven't had 'em. I'm so used to having fresh veggies that the whole home canning process is a mystery to me.
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TOD:
For your convenience, the Willima Holden List:
Willima was his drag name. Obviously.
8)
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Haven't had 'em. I'm so used to having fresh veggies that the whole home canning process is a mystery to me.
Well, at the start of fall next year, you're cordially invited to come on over and boil, peel, pare and pickle bushel after bushel after bushel of beets. . .not to mention all those Mason Jars.
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SUNSET BLVD. by a landslide! But if I ever get to see all of RACHEL AND THE STRANGER that could change.
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My buddy Mark has been wanting me to watch the movie SYBIL forever, as it is one of his favorites...today he got me up to his apartment on some pretense and trapped me into watching it...and...it really was a very good movie! Quite an interesting and tragic story...I wonder if the real Sybil is still alive?
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Scrambled eggs with mushrooms and mustard greens.
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On our yesterday sojourn to NYC we "hied" it to the Virgin Megastore at Times Square - the Big Apples latest innovation in ensuring that all visitors to Times Square leave with empty bill folds.
I added:
"Adventures of Robin Hood" - 65th Anniversary 2 Disk Special Edition....
No, Adventures of Robin Hood is MINE! MINE! MINE! Bwa-ha-ha-ha!
I could write an entire essay on Maid Marian's costume changes!
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Well, at the start of fall next year, you're cordially invited to come on over and boil, peel, pare and pickle bushel after bushel after bushel of beets. . .not to mention all those Mason Jars.
You do know about those silicone gloves that let you stick your hand (in mitt) into boiling water without getting scalded, right?
We've got them in the store. Devil red or ice blue, pick your color.
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Scrambled eggs with mushrooms and mustard greens.
NO!
William Holden never made a movie with such a title!!
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Back from Connecticut where I saw a very fun high school production of MOBY DICK: THE MUSICAL. There are some EXTREMELY talented kids at that school and I hope they continue to pursue their theatrical inklings. I had to laugh because when they found out I was on the cast recording, I all of a sudden became a mini-celeb--signing autographs and talking about the show. I told one of the girls (who was truly amazing) that she should stick with it because she was really good and she said, "Oh, thank you! That means so much coming from you...!" Ha! I'm a nobody, but it was incredibly sweet, and wonderful to see something that I was part of fully realized on a stage.
Now I'm watching "Clue," featuring the sublime Ms. Madeline Kahn and I'm eating Better Cheddar crackers. Not good for the diet, but I don't care.
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My buddy Mark has been wanting me to watch the movie SYBIL forever, as it is one of his favorites...today he got me up to his apartment on some pretense and trapped me into ...
Boy! The beginning of your post was quite.... intriguing! ;)
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The statement,
I didn't like the show the first time I saw it, but after subsequent viewings, it grew on me
always bothers me.
It's very expensive to go to the theatre. And the successful show (or theatre artist) must entertain the first time out. Normally, writers don't get a second chance to convince an audience their work is worthwhile.
That's not to say I'm not pleased to find that some of you have found enjoyment in a show that you didn't like the first time around. I applaud you for your faith and perseverance.
Seems to me that human beings run a wide gamut of mental health. Some of us need to see shrinks regularly, and that's fine. Some of us are crazy enough to fire guns at presidents, and that's just not acceptable behavior. When I first saw Assassins, years ago, I was interested in what Weidman and Sondheim had to say about the collection of crazies they portrayed. The women who shot at Ford have a dialogue that's kind of a collegiate comedy sketch. Oswald, they suggest, was inspired by the assassins of the past (and future). I learned nothing new about Hinckly. Nothing I didn't already know about Czolgosz. Learned some stuff about the ones I haven't mentioned. I don't think there's any connection between me and any assassin. Sure, I have passionate political beliefs, but many of these people didn't. I would never fire a gun, own a gun, or touch a gun. So, nothing in Assassins indicts me, or makes me feel I've anything in common with the criminally insane.
To tell the truth, I'm at a loss to figure out what Sondheim and Weidman are saying about the American assassins, but I haven't seen this Broadway version yet.
So, you're suggesting that theater should stick to the lowest common denominator as the level of aspiration?
Slippery slope, ain't it!?
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Yes, ninety-three. Nice long life. If I should live so long I certainly wouldn't want anyone MOURNING me, just celebrating whatever they happened to like about me.
Hear Hear!
Of course, he won't be hearing any more of the demonizing from now on, either.
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The statement,
I don't think there's any connection between me and any assassin.
Hmm. You've never done something stupid to garner attention? I know I have...and I'd venture to say that most of the other DRs on this board have, too. I'm not saying any of us has gone out and killed someone, but the need for attention is something that we all have in common. Some people choose to sing...some people choose to compose...some people choose to write books...some people choose to take their clothes off...and some people, extreme as it may be, choose to go out and shoot people. Even presidents. "Attention must be paid." Doesn't justify the act, but it certainly makes it a little easier to understand, which is what is most frightening to me.
To me, it's like with SWEENEY TODD. I would never go out and slit people's throats and grind them into meat pies, but you know what? I find myself empathizing with Sweeney throughout the course of the show. That doesn't make me a psychopath...or does it?
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What a bizarre day this has been. Started three times to watch and continue THE LAST OF SHEILA, and haven't gotten to the end yet.
Raquel Welch is NO actress, at least not in this.
If you haven't finished the film already, stop the film as Richard Benjamin walks the docks at the last port of call. Then see if you can't figure out the whole mystery. It's SO nice to see a mystery film that really plays fair, because you CAN solve this on your own!
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Whew!
Everybody was SO busy today. I feel like such a slacker! DRPANNI - glad you are enjoying the CD - but I am a bit non plussed that RR checked out to Salt Peanuts....although I guess that is better than.....hmmm....no I guess not! LOL. (And each song a sing-a-long, but you are right it is NOT background music.)
Thanks DRJAY - I just LOVE Carmina Burana so perhaps I will go looking for a DIE KLUGE CD. Surely there's one somewhere.
Did I understand the article linked earlier that BOMBAY DREAMS would NOT be presenting a number tonight at the Tony Awards? I thought they were listed at one time?
Raquel Welch is no actress....period. I do remember when she was on the Dick Cavett show and he asked her...."How does it feel to turn 40?" and she looked at him and said, "Bastard." Hehehehehehe.
Okay....late...late....late
I do remember PARIS WHEN IT SIZZLES but mostly because of a very strange credit....I swear it said: Perfume by Givenchy. But I couldn't smell it!
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DRJED is who needs the oven mitt! Or did he get one?
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JRand: No, BOMBAY DREAMS will not be performing tomorrow night...though I wish they could do "Shakalaka Baby" just for fun. :-)
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DRJED is who needs the oven mitt! Or did he get one?
Haha! I have one now! ;D
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My buddy Mark has been wanting me to watch the movie SYBIL forever, as it is one of his favorites...today he got me up to his apartment on some pretense and trapped me into watching it...and...it really was a very good movie! Quite an interesting and tragic story...I wonder if the real Sybil is still alive?
I can assure you, Mr Barnum, that if I ever got you up to my apartment on some pretense and then trapped you; watching the movie Sybil would be the last thing on my mind!
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Tonight, Dear Readers, I attended a theatrical event at the West Coast Ensemble. The West Coast Ensemble is one of my favorite theatrical troupes here in L.A. Working with shoestring budgets, a tiny theatre with 99 seats out front and a matchbox-sized stage, they consistently produce excellent work.
The play tonight was Moliere's The Bungler, in what was billed as the Los Angeles premiere of Richard Wilbur's translation. It was great fun! Clever, witty, well acted and well directed (other than a bit of over-reliance on slapstick, especially in the earlier scenes.) Creative use of sound effects and a simple but effective set that consisted of three rotating towers that contained various doors and arches to accomodate the numerous entrances, exits and lurkings by various characters in the story.
Subversive, no doubt, when first produced for presenting a servant as cleverer and more intelligent than his master and depicting others of the upper crust as silly caricatures, The Bungler plays now as a hearty farce.
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I'm back. Thanks to all for keeping the home fries burning with such excellent postings. New notes will be up in ten count them ten minutes.