Haines His Way
Haines His Way => Daily Discussions => Topic started by: bk on November 26, 2012, 12:04:56 AM
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Well, you've read the notes, the notes were up and running, and now it is time for you to post until the up and running cows come home.
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And the word of the day is: POTVALIANCY!
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Good morning, all.
Monday vibes for all. And feel-better vibes for those in need.
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Good morning, all.
Reply #3? You'd think it was the first day back to work after a holiday weekend or something.
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TOD:
Will He Like Me?
Vanilla Ice Cream
Days Gone By
Artificial Flowers
Little Old New York
Far From the Home I Love
Politics and Poker
He Tossed a Coin
Oh, To Be a Movie Star
What Makes Me Love Him?
Harnick with other composers:
Away From You
Garbage
The Sea Around Us
Medea in Disneyland
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good morning to all
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just watched out of the box
i think this is my favorite of all the episodes so far.
euan morton is a charmer.
his reaction shots when he is driving the taxi are priceless. this is the first time i've seen him do something. very talented.
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tod
maybe you can get hal linden to be your special guest star and he can sing "In My Own Lifetime" (Nothing to do withe the cable network that brought us Liz and Dick)
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Good morning.
;D
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The weekend seemed very long, that was good.
Must go to work. :)
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Mega vibes everyone.
:) ;) ;D 8)
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Good morning, all! The cough remains the problem and it's keeping me from sleeping well, although the head full of gunk isn'r much fun either. Speaking of not much fun, I had a ton ofemails this morning, 99% of them concerning shopping deals. I was not amused.
Today, i'm back to the rat race: Toyland first, then City Cente. Joshie needs help proofing the new full scores for the Strouse-Adams Superman score, and I want to see how grisly the work is before I commit. My biggest chore remains ROBERTA, and after all of the DEAREST ENEMY angst, ROBERTA has to be fantastic.
I'm feeling the urge to cook a huge pot of soup or something so I'll stop at the market on the way home to determine what it will be. If it's soup, either chicken or vegetable beef, or chili or spaghetti sauce. Hmmm ...
I also need to stop at a banlk.
Hopefully, when I get home, there will be a package from Amazon and God knows what other goodies.
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I read "I had a ton ofemails this morning" as "I had a ton of toenails this morning".
More coffee!!
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Proofing a full score sounds like one of the most daunting tasks ever. Just sayin'.
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Unless it's relatively easy music, I suppose. I don't know Superman.
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Monday morning greetings! I am easing back into normalcy after the hectic holiday weekend. Today is my semi-annual dental check-up and probably a trip to the grocery.
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Greetings from Toyland!
I swear, I am considering Linkedin one of the most useless sites ever, yet I continue to get emails stating "Soandso has endorsed you" or "Join my network." Signing up on that site was one of my stupidest - and there have been really stupid ones! - mistakes. Ever.
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Greetings from Toyland!
I swear, I am considering Linkedin one of the most useless sites ever, yet I continue to get emails stating "Soandso has endorsed you" or "Join my network." Signing up on that site was one of my stupidest - and there have been really stupid ones! - mistakes. Ever.
I'm beginning to agree with you. I don't know who uses it. But I'm on it. Just in case.
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TOD: ILONA
Didn't need more than five minutes to know the LIZ & DICK was going to be a disaster and turned it off (actually I pretty much know before I ever turned it on...how do you cast anyone to play iconic figures like that?). Having just read THE BURTON DIARIES, I'm too fond of him to watch his memory being sullied.
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TOD:
Artificial Flowers
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Well it sure is Monday.
TOD: Most of TENDERLOIN, most of SHE LOVES ME
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Off to the dentist - bye for now!
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And the word of the day is: POTVALIANCY!
And The Song Of The Day Is: DRINKING AGAIN
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Good Morning
That's all she wrote
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Lindsay Lohan was very good in "The Parent Trap" remake...when she was, what? -- 11 or 12?
I've heard about her promise for more than a decade now, yet I've seen no glimmers of it in anything she's done. She had a very short stint on "Ugly Betty"...one that might have generated more work for her. The upshot was that she became difficult, insulted the show's star and was unceremoniously let go.
I, for one, am tired of such personalities...wastes of time and energy.
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T.O.D.
Dear Friend
She Loves Me
Ice Cream
The score of that little-known Jewish show
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I have a feeling I'm dreaming.
First, a congressman from Georgia (Saxby) spoke out against the GOP pledge not to raise taxes. And now a congressman from South Carolina (Graham) has done the same thing. I realize others have done this, including a congressman from Virgnia, but from the deeper south? It's VERY encouraging that we may avoid the "fiscal cliff" dive.
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VIOLINIST ON THE VERANDA
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Lindsay Lohan was very good in "The Parent Trap" remake...when she was, what? -- 11 or 12?
Didn't see that, but I thought she was kind of sweet and charming in the Prairie Home Companion movie, and that's my only moment of liking her that I can recall.
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Greetings from Toyland!
I swear, I am considering Linkedin one of the most useless sites ever, yet I continue to get emails stating "Soandso has endorsed you" or "Join my network." Signing up on that site was one of my stupidest - and there have been really stupid ones! - mistakes. Ever.
I'm beginning to agree with you. I don't know who uses it. But I'm on it. Just in case.
I've gotten notices of endorsement and recommendation from folks I've never heard of. It's sort of flattering, looked at in a certain way. But since it doesn't increase my pay or make me any younger, who the hell needs it!
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Ladies and Gentleman,...
Page 2.
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Page 2 pancake dance
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It is kind of amusing when some of these companies that sell "seconds" and junk deicde to have a Black Friday Sale. It is kind of like having a Cyber Monday Sale at the Goodwill.
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TOD:
Days Gone By
Perspective
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And of course those songs already mentioned.
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I watched the latest episode of Outside the Box and enjoyed it. Although I have never seen Taxi Driver. Although I am familiar with the "You Talkin to Me" scene.
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I don't think that it's necessary for you to ask people to say if they didn't like the episode. Just ask people to comment when they've seen it. If they comment great. But if they don't comment then I wouldn't worry about it.
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I do like when there are 3 musical numbers vs 1.
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I'm up and waiting to hear from the East Coast Singer about our cross-country rehearsal.
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OK. I have been seeing "Outside the Box" but it's not my sort of humour. I think one needs to have an affinity with musical theatre to really appreciate it, which is something I don't have. Sorry!
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Lindsay Lohan was very good in "The Parent Trap" remake...when she was, what? -- 11 or 12?
Didn't see that, but I thought she was kind of sweet and charming in the Prairie Home Companion movie, and that's my only moment of liking her that I can recall.
Mine, too.
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Good morning! Off to get my wonky glasses fixed & spread some pumpkin cheesecake cheer.
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Ok, got some music written and now I'm off to the shower and to the Home Depot. There's a donut shop nearby the Home Depot, I may have to go there, as well as the Dollar Store...
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Did your Face Time test, which was a success, so now I have some time to do errands and eat before two o'clock, which is when rehearsal will begin.
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Are you talkin' to Me-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e...?
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OK. I have been seeing "Outside the Box" but it's not my sort of humour. I think one needs to have an affinity with musical theatre to really appreciate it, which is something I don't have. Sorry!
There's no need to be sorry - humor is subjective.
I think it would be good to recount a little story Jason Robert Brown has been telling for a decade now. He and a friend, both aspiring composers, contacted Sondheim, their idol. He chatted with them and then arranged house seats for them to see his latest (presumably Passion). They were to meet their idol after the show, to dine. Apparently they really didn't like the show. They went to dinner and talked about everything BUT the show. As the evening went along, Mr. Sondheim was getting clearly irritated, more and more so as the minutes went by. He finally forced the issue and they told him they hadn't cared for it. And he lit into them, saying that the only thing an artist needs to hear after someone sees their work is "Good job" or "I liked it." That's it. Steve felt and feels this is when an artist is at his or her most vulnerable and it doesn't really matter if it's a white lie or not. Just a "Good job" and move on. That was my point yesterday - there's an elephant in the room here. Graciousness is a wonderful trait and I've also had to learn the hard way that it's the better road to take. It was not my intention to make anyone uncomfortable, but there are human beings here with feelings. Doug's response here is fine - he doesn't respond to musical theater stuff - that's easy.
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Wow, we're already up over 5,000 views.
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5000 views.
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OK. I have been seeing "Outside the Box" but it's not my sort of humour. I think one needs to have an affinity with musical theatre to really appreciate it, which is something I don't have. Sorry!
There's no need to be sorry - humor is subjective.
I think it would be good to recount a little story Jason Robert Brown has been telling for a decade now. He and a friend, both aspiring composers, contacted Sondheim, their idol. He chatted with them and then arranged house seats for them to see his latest (presumably Passion). They were to meet their idol after the show, to dine. Apparently they really didn't like the show. They went to dinner and talked about everything BUT the show. As the evening went along, Mr. Sondheim was getting clearly irritated, more and more so as the minutes went by. He finally forced the issue and they told him they hadn't cared for it. And he lit into them, saying that the only thing an artist needs to hear after someone sees their work is "Good job" or "I liked it." That's it. Steve felt and feels this is when an artist is at his or her most vulnerable and it doesn't really matter if it's a white lie or not. Just a "Good job" and move on. That was my point yesterday - there's an elephant in the room here. Graciousness is a wonderful trait and I've also had to learn the hard way that it's the better road to take. It was not my intention to make anyone uncomfortable, but there are human beings here with feelings. Doug's response here is fine - he doesn't respond to musical theater stuff - that's easy.
I don't know what it is, but somewhere down the road, being gracious and polite about people's work has gone by the way side. Part of me thinks it comes with the sense of entitlement that people can say whatever they want to whomever they want whatever the consequences may be - almost like they are too "good" for these consequences to matter. IMHO, no one is exempt from this, and it was correct for Mr Sondheim to give it to them. Whatever happened to class?
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And of course those songs already mentioned.
Umm...ditto. ::)
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Slow Monday. Antsy Monday. Tired Monday.
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I am home, forgot to go to the bank, need to hit the market, and my package from Amazon has arrived. Hooray.
It took me from 11:15 to almost 2:00pm to proof the Overture to It's A Bird, It's A Plane, It's Superman; Eddie Sauter's handwriting is a bitch to read. I told Joshie I'd be back on Wednesday to continue.
I think I'll head to market now.
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OK. I have been seeing "Outside the Box" but it's not my sort of humour. I think one needs to have an affinity with musical theatre to really appreciate it, which is something I don't have. Sorry!
There's no need to be sorry - humor is subjective.
I think it would be good to recount a little story Jason Robert Brown has been telling for a decade now. He and a friend, both aspiring composers, contacted Sondheim, their idol. He chatted with them and then arranged house seats for them to see his latest (presumably Passion). They were to meet their idol after the show, to dine. Apparently they really didn't like the show. They went to dinner and talked about everything BUT the show. As the evening went along, Mr. Sondheim was getting clearly irritated, more and more so as the minutes went by. He finally forced the issue and they told him they hadn't cared for it. And he lit into them, saying that the only thing an artist needs to hear after someone sees their work is "Good job" or "I liked it." That's it. Steve felt and feels this is when an artist is at his or her most vulnerable and it doesn't really matter if it's a white lie or not. Just a "Good job" and move on. That was my point yesterday - there's an elephant in the room here. Graciousness is a wonderful trait and I've also had to learn the hard way that it's the better road to take. It was not my intention to make anyone uncomfortable, but there are human beings here with feelings. Doug's response here is fine - he doesn't respond to musical theater stuff - that's easy.
I don't know what it is, but somewhere down the road, being gracious and polite about people's work has gone by the way side. Part of me thinks it comes with the sense of entitlement that people can say whatever they want to whomever they want whatever the consequences may be - almost like they are too "good" for these consequences to matter. IMHO, no one is exempt from this, and it was correct for Mr Sondheim to give it to them. Whatever happened to class?
I don't agree. Yes people should be gracious. They were going to be gracious and not say that they didn't like it. I don't think you should push people and then expect them to lie.
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Mary Poppins was enjoyable. My niece loved it. She said it was better than the Lion King and Shrek.
After the show they did a speech for BC/EFA and they had some things they were giving away for donations. Everybody seemed to want the plastic bracelets ($5). They were really cute.
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Saturday night I watched the last hour or so of GYPSY on TCM. In the dressing room at the burlesque house - I could swear there is a poster with a caricature of Ethel Merman on the wall.....has anyone else noticed it?
I can't find a still or capture of it online.....
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I've ordered both "Gypsy" and "DeathTrap" on Blu Ray disc from Warner Archives. They were ordered at the time they were announced. They were supposed to street a week ago tomorrow.
My copies were shipped Friday.
Amazon.com spoils me.
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Let's get this forum to page 3, shall we!
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Just a few more steps until we're there.
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A funny thing happened on the way to the forum.
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When I got there, however, I had forgotten the funny thing.
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Some fun, eh!
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Page 3.
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DR John G the photo of the mushroom pie looks yummy.
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I've never wanted to see TAXI DRIVER.
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Jennifer, we can agree to disagree. As I said, my post was not directed at one person specifically, although the person who then responded would certainly have been in the group. And sorry, this is a living room hosted by someone who has been very gracious to everyone here even though believe me there are times when it could have been otherwise. Lots of people post about their stuff here - and I'm always complimentary about it because they are people who deserve graciousness. Silence doesn't cut it, I'm afraid, not when dealing with creative types.
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Taxi Driver is still powerful today (and its ending is still hard to watch), but it's worth watching just as a time capsule to see what the real New York and Times Square was like.
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Lindsay Lohan was very good in "The Parent Trap" remake...when she was, what? -- 11 or 12?
I've heard about her promise for more than a decade now, yet I've seen no glimmers of it in anything she's done. She had a very short stint on "Ugly Betty"...one that might have generated more work for her. The upshot was that she became difficult, insulted the show's star and was unceremoniously let go.
I, for one, am tired of such personalities...wastes of time and energy.
I know. It is sad and I wonder why the news continues to follow her.
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OK. I have been seeing "Outside the Box" but it's not my sort of humour. I think one needs to have an affinity with musical theatre to really appreciate it, which is something I don't have. Sorry!
There's no need to be sorry - humor is subjective.
I think it would be good to recount a little story Jason Robert Brown has been telling for a decade now. He and a friend, both aspiring composers, contacted Sondheim, their idol. He chatted with them and then arranged house seats for them to see his latest (presumably Passion). They were to meet their idol after the show, to dine. Apparently they really didn't like the show. They went to dinner and talked about everything BUT the show. As the evening went along, Mr. Sondheim was getting clearly irritated, more and more so as the minutes went by. He finally forced the issue and they told him they hadn't cared for it. And he lit into them, saying that the only thing an artist needs to hear after someone sees their work is "Good job" or "I liked it." That's it. Steve felt and feels this is when an artist is at his or her most vulnerable and it doesn't really matter if it's a white lie or not. Just a "Good job" and move on. That was my point yesterday - there's an elephant in the room here. Graciousness is a wonderful trait and I've also had to learn the hard way that it's the better road to take. It was not my intention to make anyone uncomfortable, but there are human beings here with feelings. Doug's response here is fine - he doesn't respond to musical theater stuff - that's easy.
I don't know what it is, but somewhere down the road, being gracious and polite about people's work has gone by the way side. Part of me thinks it comes with the sense of entitlement that people can say whatever they want to whomever they want whatever the consequences may be - almost like they are too "good" for these consequences to matter. IMHO, no one is exempt from this, and it was correct for Mr Sondheim to give it to them. Whatever happened to class?
I don't agree. Yes people should be gracious. They were going to be gracious and not say that they didn't like it. I don't think you should push people and then expect them to lie.
I agree, gracious is not saying anything if you don't like it.
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Mary Poppins was enjoyable. My niece loved it. She said it was better than the Lion King and Shrek.
After the show they did a speech for BC/EFA and they had some things they were giving away for donations. Everybody seemed to want the plastic bracelets ($5). They were really cute.
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Bruce you have been congratulated on your successes or your hard work. I think those comments acknowledged what you have done. Personally I think, unless you ask which you just did, it nicer not to say anything negative. I realize your intention isn't to make anyone uncomfortable but it does, which is why they didn't say anything in the first place.
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I just took my anti-nausea prescription. With luck that will prevent me from up chucking the drink I need to take at two.
I'm not sure I'll be back again until tomorrow, depends how sick this makes me.
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How annoying - one of the lenses in my glasses, which I've only had a few months, has fallen out. The tiny screw holding the lens to the frame has disappeared somewhere. So it means a trip to the opticians tomorrow, providing I can drive there without crashing into something.
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I just took my anti-nausea prescription. With luck that will prevent me from up chucking the drink I need to take at two.
I'm not sure I'll be back again until tomorrow, depends how sick this makes me.
Mega vibes for DR Jane!
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Bruce you have been congratulated on your successes or your hard work. I think those comments acknowledged what you have done. Personally I think, unless you ask which you just did, it nicer not to say anything negative. I realize your intention isn't to make anyone uncomfortable but it does, which is why they didn't say anything in the first place.
Sorry, I side with Mr. Sondheim about this. Everyone's mileage may vary and that's fine.
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Actually, let me make it easier for you: You go see PennyO in her show. You don't think she's very good. You go backstage or you talk later. Do you say nothing? Especially if she asks? I think you know the answer. Or you see Ben's ever-lovin' Ant in a show and he and Ben are together after - do you say nothing? Is that what you do? And if they ask "Did you like it?" you say nothing? Or you say, "Gee, I really didn't - I didn't think Ant was good and the show was kind of awful." Is that it? Because there's no difference here, except it's a chat board. Feelings are feelings, I'm afraid. If the above scenarios were me, I'd say "Good job" and be done with it, because that's the friendly and nice thing to do and it's kind of painless to do it. To be silent would speak louder than if I said "Hated it", which was Mr. Sondheim's point.
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My Christmas allbum from Kritzerland arrived today. I will take it to Toyland tomorrow and listen to it there.
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I lost one of my best friends this year who asked me what i thought of a show he was in. I told him he gave a fine performance in what I considered a good summer stock revival. Several months later, he called nd trashed me for being a lousy friend. I am sorry the friendship is over, but:
1. at intermission, he and his wife walked out of THE BRAIN FROM PLANET X at NYMF, a show I loveand am very proud of my connection to it
2. they weren't crazy about FINIAN'S RAINBOW
3. they walked out of something else I worked on
4. I couldn't get them to drive to Goodspeed to see any of my work there, no matter how hard I begged them
Clearly, it rankles or I would have forgotten these instances, but my disliking a Broadway revival that I thought was secondrate lost me a very good friend. Go figure.
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Actually, let me make it easier for you: You go see PennyO in her show. You don't think she's very good. You go backstage or you talk later. Do you say nothing? Especially if she asks? I think you know the answer. Or you see Ben's ever-lovin' Ant in a show and he and Ben are together after - do you say nothing? Is that what you do? And if they ask "Did you like it?" you say nothing? Or you say, "Gee, I really didn't - I didn't think Ant was good and the show was kind of awful." Is that it? Because there's no difference here, except it's a chat board. Feelings are feelings, I'm afraid. If the above scenarios were me, I'd say "Good job" and be done with it, because that's the friendly and nice thing to do and it's kind of painless to do it. To be silent would speak louder than if I said "Hated it", which was Mr. Sondheim's point.
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Perhaps my lack of interest for musical theatre stems from the one and only musical I did, "The Belle of New York", in which I played Karl Von Pumpernick. Afterwards I asked a friend who was in the audience what she thought of it. She bluntly said “I thought it was crap”. She added “You were good” but I wonder whether she said that so as not to hurt my feelings. :)
(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/vanmunchen/img678-1.jpg)
I'm on the right :)
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Clearly, it rankles or I would have forgotten these instances, but my disliking a Broadway revival that I thought was secondrate lost me a very good friend. Go figure.
Or, rather, it corrected the misperception you had that this person was a very good friend.
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Perhaps my lack of interest for musical theatre stems from the one and only musical I did, "The Belle of New York", in which I played Karl Von Pumpernick. Afterwards I asked a friend who was in the audience what she thought of it. She bluntly said “I thought it was crap”. She added “You were good” but I wonder whether she said that so as not to hurt my feelings. :)
(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/vanmunchen/img678-1.jpg)
I'm on the right :)
What a wonderful photograph!
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Guess who just Linkended me? Alexandra Morgan - who I have not heard from since the day we wrapped The First Nudie Musical - she plays Mary LaRue. I wrote her a little note.
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Guess who just Linkended me? Alexandra Morgan - who I have not heard from since the day we wrapped The First Nudie Musical - she plays Mary LaRue. I wrote her a little note.
She is so fantastic in her damned didos tantrum. I love her!
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Guess who just Linkended me? Alexandra Morgan - who I have not heard from since the day we wrapped The First Nudie Musical - she plays Mary LaRue. I wrote her a little note.
Cool!
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We had our little Face Time session and I placed the ensemble in three numbers. I'll work with the East Coast Singer privately on all her entrances and exits and stuff. They'll call back when the three numbers that have choreography are ready to show me - in about an hour.
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Clearly, it rankles or I would have forgotten these instances, but my disliking a Broadway revival that I thought was secondrate lost me a very good friend. Go figure.
Or, rather, it corrected the misperception you had that this person was a very good friend.
A friendship of nearly 30 years is not a misconception. However, there's no underestimating the shallowness of people.
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Alexandra and I will probably be having dinner.
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Page three? Three pages?
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Saturday night I watched the last hour or so of GYPSY on TCM. In the dressing room at the burlesque house - I could swear there is a poster with a caricature of Ethel Merman on the wall.....has anyone else noticed it?
I can't find a still or capture of it online.....
Is that movie hard to find on DVD? From some posts, that's what I gathered. Yet at Costco, the Natalie Wood collection, for $12.99, had "Gypsy" among the half-dozen or so movies in the box.
I picked up another box, of women's movies, I guess is what they called it, or leading ladies, just because it had 'Shoot the Moon" in it, a movie I love. Anyway, the odd collection also featured "Up the Down Staircase," "I'll Cry Tomorrow" and the remake of "Rich and Famous."
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Guess who just Linkended me? Alexandra Morgan - who I have not heard from since the day we wrapped The First Nudie Musical - she plays Mary LaRue. I wrote her a little note.
Ah, proof that LinkedIn is worthwhile.
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I lost one of my best friends this year who asked me what i thought of a show he was in. I told him he gave a fine performance in what I considered a good summer stock revival. Several months later, he called nd trashed me for being a lousy friend. I am sorry the friendship is over, but:
1. at intermission, he and his wife walked out of THE BRAIN FROM PLANET X at NYMF, a show I loveand am very proud of my connection to it
2. they weren't crazy about FINIAN'S RAINBOW
3. they walked out of something else I worked on
4. I couldn't get them to drive to Goodspeed to see any of my work there, no matter how hard I begged them
Clearly, it rankles or I would have forgotten these instances, but my disliking a Broadway revival that I thought was secondrate lost me a very good friend. Go figure.
Very sorry to hear that.
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I've ordered both "Gypsy" and "DeathTrap" on Blu Ray disc from Warner Archives. They were ordered at the time they were announced. They were supposed to street a week ago tomorrow.
My copies were shipped Friday.
Amazon.com spoils me.
Blu-Ray. That answers my question.
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Oh, and Donald's new radio show here at haineshisway.com this week is an interview with Euan Morton, so please check it out.
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Euan Morton is very good in the new Outside the Box episode. I'm surprised someone hasn't tried a musical version of "Taxi Driver" already. The episodes on the new site are slower and jerky compared to Youtube, but I'm glad it gets you the requisite views. I watched a few of last season's episodes on both sites and Youtube was far better for whatever reason. Not being technical, I have no idea why there is a difference (but it's kind of like dial-up compared to cable).
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That is a strange box set DR JOHN G.
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My internet has been touch and go all afternoon....right now it is touch.
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Great photo DR DOUG R....thanks for sharing.
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Euan Morton is very good in the new Outside the Box episode. I'm surprised someone hasn't tried a musical version of "Taxi Driver" already. The episodes on the new site are slower and jerky compared to Youtube, but I'm glad it gets you the requisite views. I watched a few of last season's episodes on both sites and Youtube was far better for whatever reason. Not being technical, I have no idea why there is a difference (but it's kind of like dial-up compared to cable).
Most don't have issues with Broadway World's videos, but older computers occasionally do.
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This entire thread (or whatever) about being nice, etc is really starting to bug me. I believe we are all here on this discussion board because of our affinity for bk and the work he is doing and has done in the entertainment industry. He has touched us all in some way. We keep coming back day after day because we like the posts and the conversation. We can agree/disagree on flavors of ice cream, casseroles, movies, etc... but to be critical about someone's work in public, whether it be a forum or whatever, is just not cool. bk was right when he said a simple "nice work" or "good job" will get the job done.
Us creative types like to hear criticism, oh yes, we do. But maybe in a private message, or an email, or whatever. And in that respect, coming from another creative person, it's totally open for discussion as to WHY you liked or disliked something. As for "Outside the Box" - have you not read ANY of bk's books? Do you not "get" his humor? Perhaps it takes someone who understand humor to understand and enjoy any of bk's projects. It's an art form that seems to be lost.
Seriously, folks, if you are here and are not supporting bk by buying the CD's, books, posting here on HHW whenever possible or watching "Outside the Box" and supporting bk's work, why are you here?
Thank you and have a nice day.
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I also want to be very clear that these interesting posts from all viewpoints today are not directed at any one person - they just aren't and I hope that's obvious.
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How annoying - one of the lenses in my glasses, which I've only had a few months, has fallen out. The tiny screw holding the lens to the frame has disappeared somewhere. So it means a trip to the opticians tomorrow, providing I can drive there without crashing into something.
If you have one closer to you they should replace it at no charge. At least that has been my experience.
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I just took my anti-nausea prescription. With luck that will prevent me from up chucking the drink I need to take at two.
I'm not sure I'll be back again until tomorrow, depends how sick this makes me.
Mega vibes for DR Jane!
Thanks.
I don't do this well, not that anyone does.
I barely got the first drink down, at least almost all of it. Some I gagged up. My reaction to it is I have been shaking/shivering for the last 40 minutes.
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Don't vomit on the ground, whatever you do. Don't shake and shiver, whatever you do. Feel better, that's the ticket. I hate nausea almost worse than anything - in fact, nausea makes me nauseous.
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I lost one of my best friends this year who asked me what i thought of a show he was in. I told him he gave a fine performance in what I considered a good summer stock revival. Several months later, he called nd trashed me for being a lousy friend. I am sorry the friendship is over, but:
1. at intermission, he and his wife walked out of THE BRAIN FROM PLANET X at NYMF, a show I loveand am very proud of my connection to it
2. they weren't crazy about FINIAN'S RAINBOW
3. they walked out of something else I worked on
4. I couldn't get them to drive to Goodspeed to see any of my work there, no matter how hard I begged them
Clearly, it rankles or I would have forgotten these instances, but my disliking a Broadway revival that I thought was secondrate lost me a very good friend. Go figure.
:( And why people don't want to comment. Maybe it is a no win situation.
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Clearly, it rankles or I would have forgotten these instances, but my disliking a Broadway revival that I thought was secondrate lost me a very good friend. Go figure.
Or, rather, it corrected the misperception you had that this person was a very good friend.
:)
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Clearly, it rankles or I would have forgotten these instances, but my disliking a Broadway revival that I thought was secondrate lost me a very good friend. Go figure.
Or, rather, it corrected the misperception you had that this person was a very good friend.
:)
I think it is a win situation - did you see my post about PennyO or anyone you might know well? Would you really just stay silent if you saw her backstage, hadn't liked her or her show, because if you did I can assure you it would hurt her. And if you said you didn't like it, that would bother her, too. If you said, "Good job" or "I had a good time" or anything even remotely positive, there would be no problem at all. And that's my point - it's simple and easy and why should it be a problem if you like the person and respect them? Again, it's a lesson I had to learn the hard way, but I'm truly glad I learned it and I know my friends in the business appreciate it.
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I also want to be very clear that these interesting posts from all viewpoints today are not directed at any one person - they just aren't and I hope that's obvious.
I get that. This could be about any situation where you are confronted with commenting or not on your opinion of the work. If "good job" isn't really how you feel than you say, say it anyway. I think that is what you are saying.
If I get a horrible haircut. What are the option for the person talking to me?
1. I see you got a haircut
2. Your hair looks horrible.
3. Good job on your haircut
4. Say nothing at all
I would opt for not saying anything.
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Don't vomit on the ground, whatever you do. Don't shake and shiver, whatever you do. Feel better, that's the ticket. I hate nausea almost worse than anything - in fact, nausea makes me nauseous.
That's why I took the pill. A pill won't stop my gag reaction from this disgusting drink that still lingers on. Drinking apple juice helps but I'm soooo stuffed from drinking 32 oz of water after the 16 mix.
I can't wait to do this again at 5:00.
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I also want to be very clear that these interesting posts from all viewpoints today are not directed at any one person - they just aren't and I hope that's obvious.
I get that. This could be about any situation where you are confronted with commenting or not on your opinion of the work. If "good job" isn't really how you feel than you say, say it anyway. I think that is what you are saying.
If I get a horrible haircut. What are the option for the person talking to me?
1. I see you got a haircut
2. Your hair looks horrible.
3. Good job on your haircut
4. Say nothing at all
I would opt for not saying anything.
You carefully keep avoiding the PennyO scenario. Respond to it honestly. If you had a horrible haircut I would still say you looked nice if you asked me about it. Why wouldn't I?
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Clearly, it rankles or I would have forgotten these instances, but my disliking a Broadway revival that I thought was secondrate lost me a very good friend. Go figure.
Or, rather, it corrected the misperception you had that this person was a very good friend.
:)
I think it is a win situation - did you see my post about PennyO or anyone you might know well? Would you really just stay silent if you saw her backstage, hadn't liked her or her show, because if you did I can assure you it would hurt her. And if you said you didn't like it, that would bother her, too. If you said, "Good job" or "I had a good time" or anything even remotely positive, there would be no problem at all. And that's my point - it's simple and easy and why should it be a problem if you like the person and respect them? Again, it's a lesson I had to learn the hard way, but I'm truly glad I learned it and I know my friends in the business appreciate it.
I would try & comment on the most positive thing I could find. I might say I was glad to have been part of the experience. I don't think I would say I liked it if I didn't, at least I wouldn't feel good about saying that. Good job, not sure I could do that one. I could have a good time.
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I also want to be very clear that these interesting posts from all viewpoints today are not directed at any one person - they just aren't and I hope that's obvious.
I get that. This could be about any situation where you are confronted with commenting or not on your opinion of the work. If "good job" isn't really how you feel than you say, say it anyway. I think that is what you are saying.
If I get a horrible haircut. What are the option for the person talking to me?
1. I see you got a haircut
2. Your hair looks horrible.
3. Good job on your haircut
4. Say nothing at all
I would opt for not saying anything.
You carefully keep avoiding the PennyO scenario. Respond to it honestly. If you had a horrible haircut I would still say you looked nice if you asked me about it. Why wouldn't I?
I wasn't avoiding, just hadn't said anything yet.
If I asked, I would hope you would tell the truth. If I didn't ask I wouldn't expect a comment unless you wanted to offer one.
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Clearly, it rankles or I would have forgotten these instances, but my disliking a Broadway revival that I thought was secondrate lost me a very good friend. Go figure.
Or, rather, it corrected the misperception you had that this person was a very good friend.
:)
I think it is a win situation - did you see my post about PennyO or anyone you might know well? Would you really just stay silent if you saw her backstage, hadn't liked her or her show, because if you did I can assure you it would hurt her. And if you said you didn't like it, that would bother her, too. If you said, "Good job" or "I had a good time" or anything even remotely positive, there would be no problem at all. And that's my point - it's simple and easy and why should it be a problem if you like the person and respect them? Again, it's a lesson I had to learn the hard way, but I'm truly glad I learned it and I know my friends in the business appreciate it.
I would try & comment on the most positive thing I could find. I might say I was glad to have been part of the experience. I don't think I would say I liked it if I didn't, at least I wouldn't feel good about saying that. Good job, not sure I could do that one. I could have a good time.
My point is you WOULD find something okay to say because you know her and are face-to-face with her (or talking on the phone or whatever). It's no different here on this board, IMO. There is, of course, on the Internet, distance, but that shouldn't make a difference. A simple "Fun" or "Good" or "I saw it, nice" or anything like that. I think silence is fine for strangers, but I have to say that recently I even do it for strangers just because it's easy and why not? I'm not a lesser person for it, I'm not betraying myself in doing it - I'm being gracious and courteous, but I would ALWAYS be so to people I know and especially have some feeling for. I think we've all probably stated our views, and I always enjoy the discourse whatever the viewpoint. I think it's an interesting discussion. Nothing that happened yesterday has changed the way I feel about anyone.
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I didn't think it would.
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I also want to be very clear that these interesting posts from all viewpoints today are not directed at any one person - they just aren't and I hope that's obvious.
I get that. This could be about any situation where you are confronted with commenting or not on your opinion of the work. If "good job" isn't really how you feel than you say, say it anyway. I think that is what you are saying.
If I get a horrible haircut. What are the option for the person talking to me?
1. I see you got a haircut
2. Your hair looks horrible.
3. Good job on your haircut
4. Say nothing at all
I would opt for not saying anything.
You carefully keep avoiding the PennyO scenario. Respond to it honestly. If you had a horrible haircut I would still say you looked nice if you asked me about it. Why wouldn't I?
I wasn't avoiding, just hadn't said anything yet.
If I asked, I would hope you would tell the truth. If I didn't ask I wouldn't expect a comment unless you wanted to offer one.
Hair is not really an applicable correlation to what's being discussed, though :) Creative artists have other needs than people with haircuts, bad or good. Again, I think Sondheim said it best.
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I'm going to go curl up on the heating pad with my Nook for awhile.
'night
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TOD:
Days Gone By
Perspective
Jrand, have you ever played Mr. Maraczek? It would be a great role for you. It was a great role for me.
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Euan Morton is very good in the new Outside the Box episode. I'm surprised someone hasn't tried a musical version of "Taxi Driver" already. The episodes on the new site are slower and jerky compared to Youtube, but I'm glad it gets you the requisite views. I watched a few of last season's episodes on both sites and Youtube was far better for whatever reason. Not being technical, I have no idea why there is a difference (but it's kind of like dial-up compared to cable).
Most don't have issues with Broadway World's videos, but older computers occasionally do.
Ah yes, that must be it.
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dr Kerry, I had the same issue. But on the newer computer it was fine.
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Euan Morton is very good in the new Outside the Box episode. I'm surprised someone hasn't tried a musical version of "Taxi Driver" already. The episodes on the new site are slower and jerky compared to Youtube, but I'm glad it gets you the requisite views. I watched a few of last season's episodes on both sites and Youtube was far better for whatever reason. Not being technical, I have no idea why there is a difference (but it's kind of like dial-up compared to cable).
Most don't have issues with Broadway World's videos, but older computers occasionally do.
I Have Trouble With Broadway World's Videos On My i-phone 4S
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Don't vomit on the ground, whatever you do. Don't shake and shiver, whatever you do. Feel better, that's the ticket. I hate nausea almost worse than anything - in fact, nausea makes me nauseous.
That's why I took the pill. A pill won't stop my gag reaction from this disgusting drink that still lingers on. Drinking apple juice helps but I'm soooo stuffed from drinking 32 oz of water after the 16 mix.
I can't wait to do this again at 5:00.
Jane, are you just drinking it from a cup or bottle or are you using a straw? I've found that if I use a straw, I can have the receiving end of the straw at the back of my mouth and get much less of the taste of whatever it is that I need to choke down.
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Hair is not really an applicable correlation to what's being discussed, though :)
Unless it's the haircutter who's asked your opinion. ;)
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How annoying - one of the lenses in my glasses, which I've only had a few months, has fallen out. The tiny screw holding the lens to the frame has disappeared somewhere. So it means a trip to the opticians tomorrow, providing I can drive there without crashing into something.
Doug, is there another optical office nearer to your home than the one you frequent? Most opticians will gladly repair your glasses whether or not you are a customer.
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How annoying - one of the lenses in my glasses, which I've only had a few months, has fallen out. The tiny screw holding the lens to the frame has disappeared somewhere. So it means a trip to the opticians tomorrow, providing I can drive there without crashing into something.
Doug, is there another optical office nearer to your home than the one you frequent? Most opticians will gladly repair your glasses whether or not you are a customer.
Yup...even Costco fixed a nose pad on my glasses.
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Perhaps my lack of interest for musical theatre stems from the one and only musical I did, "The Belle of New York", in which I played Karl Von Pumpernick. Afterwards I asked a friend who was in the audience what she thought of it. She bluntly said “I thought it was crap”. She added “You were good” but I wonder whether she said that so as not to hurt my feelings. :)
(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/vanmunchen/img678-1.jpg)
I'm on the right :)
What a wonderful photograph!
(That means he hated it!) ;)
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Euan Morton is very good in the new Outside the Box episode. I'm surprised someone hasn't tried a musical version of "Taxi Driver" already. The episodes on the new site are slower and jerky compared to Youtube, but I'm glad it gets you the requisite views. I watched a few of last season's episodes on both sites and Youtube was far better for whatever reason. Not being technical, I have no idea why there is a difference (but it's kind of like dial-up compared to cable).
Most don't have issues with Broadway World's videos, but older computers occasionally do.
I Have Trouble With Broadway World's Videos On My i-phone 4S
Talk to your son! :) Plays fine on my iPhone 4S - it may depend on signal strength, though.
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I enjoyed the new Outside Box. I haven't seen Taxi Driver either, but am familiar with it, of course.
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Back from Buffalo--no snow in the DC area, but rain is expected.
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Euan Morton is a good singer. I remember he appeared at the Signature Theatre and I thought about going, but didn't. I wish I had!
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The first time I saw Taxi Driver was in a private screening room three or four months before its release. My friend who worked for Mann Theaters always had me to see these screenings, and he knew I loved Bernard Herrmann. I was absolutely mesmerized by the film, but I cannot tell you how shocking the final fifteen minutes were back then, especially as no one had seen it and nothing had been written about it to prepare me for it. Once one has read about it, at least one is forewarned, but seeing it without warning was an amazing experience and as powerful as anything that's been on the screen.
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Euan, of course, does a duet with the East Coast Singer on the Christmas album.
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I received my THIS CHRISTMAS
album CD. I look forward to listening to it tomorrow.
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Euan, of course, does a duet with the East Coast Singer on the Christmas album.
The CD was waiting for me when I got home today. I'll listen tomorrow too.
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Euan Morton is very good in the new Outside the Box episode. I'm surprised someone hasn't tried a musical version of "Taxi Driver" already. The episodes on the new site are slower and jerky compared to Youtube, but I'm glad it gets you the requisite views. I watched a few of last season's episodes on both sites and Youtube was far better for whatever reason. Not being technical, I have no idea why there is a difference (but it's kind of like dial-up compared to cable).
Most don't have issues with Broadway World's videos, but older computers occasionally do.
I Have Trouble With Broadway World's Videos On My i-phone 4S
Talk to your son! :) Plays fine on my iPhone 4S - it may depend on signal strength, though.
It's Great That You've Had So Many "Hits" on BroadwayWorld.Com. Success Breeds Success.
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Saying "good job" or "I liked it" when you didn't, may be the easiest thing to do, but I don't think that it is the most constructive thing to do or, depending on how close you are to a person, the most loyal thing to do. An empty compliment is usually seen through. Friends know when you're being honest, glib, or polite. I never press anyone to say anything about my work. First of all, if I am confident in it, I don't care whether someone likes it or not. Secondly, if the work has been compromised by other hands (often the case with movies I've written), I'll be first in line to throw bricks. But I figure if someone genuinely likes the work, it doesn't have to be coaxed out of them. If they didn't, I'm confident enough and thick-skinned enough to hear what they have to say, but I want opinions backed up with examples for why they hold that opinion and an in-depth discussion. They might actually say something that will resonate or help me grow as an artist or I might just simply disagree with them, but my feelings won't be hurt. I throw off easy, empty compliments when I don't like something, want to escape as quickly as I can, and don't know the person well enough to give them an honest thoughtful assessment.
The role of the artist is throw something out there and say: "This has importance for me, it resonates with me, it has meaning for me. Maybe it has for you too." Those who agree with you are your audience; those who don't,aren't.
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There is a theater company that I have worked for on many occasions. When I did GUYS AND DOLLS in Seattle, the head of that theater company (and someone I considered a friend), who we shall call Mr. X; came to see the dress preview. Since many of the cast of G and D had worked at the other theater, the word got around the dressing room, even before the house lights had dimmed, that the head of that theater was in the house.
After the show ended, the word got around, even before we had changed clothes, that Mr. X had left the theater without saying anything to anyone. I was told later than he did not enjoy our production and didn't want to wait around and get trapped into saying something he didn't mean. I can assure you that Mr. X leaving without comment was talked about far more often during the run of the show, than any words of praise we received from others.
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Back, from wherever I've been all day. What a compelling thread this has been.
DR Elmore, that's an incredible tale about the dissolution of that friendship. I've known a couple of other long time friendships that I witnessed breaking up over (seemingly) sudden differences of opinion or behavior or whatever. It's always shocking, inexplicable, and senseless. (Those had nothing to do with the kind of thing being discussed here, just other wacky misunderstandings and miscommunications.)
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Sorry, who lost the screw in the glasses? Around here, all drugstores or mass merchandise types of place -- probably even supermarkets -- have glasses repair kits for $1 or $2 that will have a screw that fits, a little screwdriver, and a couple of other odds and ends. I had to get one of those about a month ago when I suddenly discovered a screw had apparently loosened and had finally popped out.
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That picture is priceless, DR Doug R! :)
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There is a theater company that I have worked for on many occasions. When I did GUYS AND DOLLS in Seattle, the head of that theater company (and someone I considered a friend), who we shall call Mr. X; came to see the dress preview. Since many of the cast of G and D had worked at the other theater, the word got around the dressing room, even before the house lights had dimmed, that the head of that theater was in the house.
After the show ended, the word got around, even before we had changed clothes, that Mr. X had left the theater without saying anything to anyone. I was told later than he did not enjoy our production and didn't want to wait around and get trapped into saying something he didn't mean. I can assure you that Mr. X leaving without comment was talked about far more often during the run of the show, than any words of praise we received from others.
By the way, Mr. X has never to this day, ever mentioned that he saw the show or what he thought of my performance. I guess then I shouldn't be surprised that Mr. X has never written, e-mailed, or called to say that he is sorry about me ending up in a wheelchair.
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Saying "good job" or "I liked it" when you didn't, may be the easiest thing to do, but I don't think that it is the most constructive thing to do or, depending on how close you are to a person, the most loyal thing to do. An empty compliment is usually seen through. Friends know when you're being honest, glib, or polite. I never press anyone to say anything about my work. First of all, if I am confident in it, I don't care whether someone likes it or not. Secondly, if the work has been compromised by other hands (often the case with movies I've written), I'll be first in line to throw bricks. But I figure if someone genuinely likes the work, it doesn't have to be coaxed out of them. If they didn't, I'm confident enough and thick-skinned enough to hear what they have to say, but I want opinions backed up with examples for why they hold that opinion and an in-depth discussion. They might actually say something that will resonate or help me grow as an artist or I might just simply disagree with them, but my feelings won't be hurt. I throw off easy, empty compliments when I don't like something, want to escape as quickly as I can, and don't know the person well enough to give them an honest thoughtful assessment.
The role of the artist is throw something out there and say: "This has importance for me, it resonates with me, it has meaning for me. Maybe it has for you too." Those who agree with you are your audience; those who don't,aren't.
In theory I agree - especially with close friends. But with people I just know, and especially where there are others around, I find the simple compliment is what's needed. Once you're alone with a close friend you can tell them what's on your mind in a positive and constructive way and they can take it to heart or not.
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Back, from wherever I've been all day. What a compelling thread this has been.
DR Elmore, that's an incredible tale about the dissolution of that friendship. I've known a couple of other long time friendships that I witnessed breaking up over (seemingly) sudden differences of opinion or behavior or whatever. It's always shocking, inexplicable, and senseless. (Those had nothing to do with the kind of thing being discussed here, just other wacky misunderstandings and miscommunications.)
I too think it's compelling and even though some people will take it as me being whatever, it's not - I enjoy the discourse whether I agree with all points of view or not.
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Rehearsal begins in twenty minutes. Never had the second Face Time call so if they're intending to call after six my time, I won't be available.
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My rehearsal begins in about 15 minutes, so I must leave.
Be back later.
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I can see Les Miz on my birthday if I want - it's at two and I'll be done in plenty of time for a little do that's being thrown for me.
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Back, from wherever I've been all day. What a compelling thread this has been.
DR Elmore, that's an incredible tale about the dissolution of that friendship. I've known a couple of other long time friendships that I witnessed breaking up over (seemingly) sudden differences of opinion or behavior or whatever. It's always shocking, inexplicable, and senseless. (Those had nothing to do with the kind of thing being discussed here, just other wacky misunderstandings and miscommunications.)
I never discussed with him or his wife my disappointment over many of their actions, he owes many of his recording jobs with BK and John Yap to my recommendation, and I considred him a brother. Well, i disowned one of my real brothers and it didn't hurt at all; this one is killing me.
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There are so many famous films that I haven't seen, some for which it's downright embarrassing to admit it. One of my great pleasures these days is ketchuping on things like that. That said, I nevertheless find it shocking -- shocking -- when I discover other people who never saw the films that were so iconic to moi, such as TAXI DRIVER.
Saw it at the Regent -- or was it the Plaza on Glendon (that was OBSESSION, I'm pretty sure) -- and that's a block now so utterly wiped out and redesigned it might as well be moved to another state. But I digress. I still owe HHW, and myself, a long rambling post about Westwood, and more, after revisiting it last month.
And that's another soundtrack LP that got played to death (not literally, since by that time I knew how to care for records). Probably bought it right there in Vogue Records or some other store whose name has escaped me. Well, we'll be coming back to that.)
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Taxi Driver is still powerful today (and its ending is still hard to watch), but it's worth watching just as a time capsule to see what the real New York and Times Square was like.
Do you plan to do more modern parodies? Just curious.
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I think because DR Jane and I are not creative types we see things differently. Also we are both nice people who do not like to hurt other people's feelings. But we are both pretty honest people who dislike lying.
I see things pretty much the same way she described it.
But because we have not written musicals/performed.... we do not see things the same way some of you who do these things do.
If I saw DR PennyO perform and thought the show was terrible I would probably not say I thought it was great. But I would try to find something complimentary to say.
The thing in question here though is when you specifically ask for an opinion. I don't think you should ask unless you want to hear the truth. But that is just my opinion.
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Hello, everyone.
Yes, that's a great photo, DR Doug. Thanks for posting it.
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I'll do the honors.
Six.
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Sorry about the loss of your friend, Larry. I can understand your pain. I hope that in time it's resolved.
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The Lovely Wife and I, upon returning to Kentucky and getting involved with a burgeoning professional theatre company here, saw a lot of the area's theatre. A lot of it was nonprofessional community theatre...something I hadn't seen any of since leaving Kentucky 30-odd years befor... we also saw the university and college theatre. But since I was a board member of my theatre and the unofficial right hand man of the Artistic Director, I felt it an obligatory, ambassadorial mission for me to familiatrize myself with the local talent and theatre scene. And, over the years, several of these people became colleagues and friends. We saw a lot of theatre...much of it lousy...but we knew our appearance at any theatre was looked on as a big deal, whether people liked us, hated us, or, as was often the case, simply jealously feared us. We were always gracious and always tried to find something encouraging to say afterwards. We always stayed through till the end of a show, but we always didn't wait around afterward. But the fact was we saw more theatre in that town than anyone else did. We saw the shows of people who never saw either mine or The Lovely Wife's shows or the shows of our theatre. We supported the community's theatre with our presence and our ticket purchases. I didn't feel I had to always hang around and say something nice. Since the theatre's demise during the financial crunch, I don't feel obligated to see as much local theatre as we once did. Most of my theatre going is now done in Cincinnati at professional venues where I feel I get more value for my money. But I still feel the obligation to see friends' shows here and support educational theatre. When trapped after a show I didn't really like, I find something polite and encouraging about the show.But I try not to outright lie, as I am a bad liar. I'm also sure it is evident when I didn't like something. A few of these people I know well enough that I can be honest with them. And even though we've cut back, we still see more theatre in the area than anyone else and that should count for something. I shouldn't have to delude people with false praise. They get enough of that from grandma and a claque of undiscrimmating friends.
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A post was made here today that I could not disagree with more. It was not directed at me, but I'll answer personally, as I am not trying to speak for anyone else.
I truly enjoyed THE BRAIN FROM PLANET X, even though I'm sure that many of the sci-fi references were lost on me. I love Bruce's songwriting, but I like some of his work better than others. That's perfectly natural. I would NOT say that that is not being supportive of Bruce. With ANY composer, any artist, some works will resonate more than others. I've yet to meet any artist who didn't feel that way.
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I think because DR Jane and I are not creative types we see things differently. Also we are both nice people who do not like to hurt other people's feelings. But we are both pretty honest people who dislike lying.
I see things pretty much the same way she described it.
But because we have not written musicals/performed.... we do not see things the same way some of you who do these things do.
If I saw DR PennyO perform and thought the show was terrible I would probably not say I thought it was great. But I would try to find something complimentary to say.
The thing in question here though is when you specifically ask for an opinion. I don't think you should ask unless you want to hear the truth. But that is just my opinion.
I agree with this completely. If you've solicited an opinion, you're going to get an honest one from me. If someone asks me to read and critique their writing (something I usually don't do, except in very special cases), my only caveat is that I will be brutually honest and mince no words. I don't have patience with people who solicit an opinion who don't really want one but are merely looking for a pat on the back. And, as professional, whether it be writing or the theatre, it takes time and considerable thought to come up with a serious critique about how and why something either works or doesn't. I don't take the task lightly and so for someone to be offended after they've asked for it is, to me, the height of hypocrisy or dilletantism.
You and Jane don't see things differently from me. If you don't want honesty, don't ask me.
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Here's a link to an article by my pal, screenwriter Josh Olson about why professionals in the drama game are reluctant to give critiques. It was something of an internet sensation when he ffirst wrote it, loved by professionals; hated by amateurs....It's called I WILL NOT READ YOUR FUCKING SCRIPT.
http://www.deadline.com/2009/09/why-he-will-not-read-your-fucking-script/
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Euan Morton is very good in the new Outside the Box episode. I'm surprised someone hasn't tried a musical version of "Taxi Driver" already. The episodes on the new site are slower and jerky compared to Youtube, but I'm glad it gets you the requisite views. I watched a few of last season's episodes on both sites and Youtube was far better for whatever reason. Not being technical, I have no idea why there is a difference (but it's kind of like dial-up compared to cable).
Most don't have issues with Broadway World's videos, but older computers occasionally do.
I have a new computer, and I had trouble, but with it being Cyber Monday weekend, I just chalked it up to really heavy Internet usage.
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Hello, everyone.
Yes, that's a great photo, DR Doug. Thanks for posting it.
It is a great photo.
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Feel-better vibes for DR Jane.
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Taxi Driver is still powerful today (and its ending is still hard to watch), but it's worth watching just as a time capsule to see what the real New York and Times Square was like.
Do you plan to do more modern parodies? Just curious.
I'd like to but the fact is there aren't many modern things that appeal to me, but the real problem is they're actually turning these dreadful movies into musicals - things that are just totally wrong as musicals. At one point in season two we were thinking about The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo and I even wrote a really fun opening number for it - we'll see if that one makes season three.
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A post was made here today that I could not disagree with more. It was not directed at me, but I'll answer personally, as I am not trying to speak for anyone else.
I truly enjoyed THE BRAIN FROM PLANET X, even though I'm sure that many of the sci-fi references were lost on me. I love Bruce's songwriting, but I like some of his work better than others. That's perfectly natural. I would NOT say that that is not being supportive of Bruce. With ANY composer, any artist, some works will resonate more than others. I've yet to meet any artist who didn't feel that way.
Of course but I don't think that's what this is about.
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I think because DR Jane and I are not creative types we see things differently. Also we are both nice people who do not like to hurt other people's feelings. But we are both pretty honest people who dislike lying.
I see things pretty much the same way she described it.
But because we have not written musicals/performed.... we do not see things the same way some of you who do these things do.
If I saw DR PennyO perform and thought the show was terrible I would probably not say I thought it was great. But I would try to find something complimentary to say.
The thing in question here though is when you specifically ask for an opinion. I don't think you should ask unless you want to hear the truth. But that is just my opinion.
I agree with this completely. If you've solicited an opinion, you're going to get an honest one from me. If someone asks me to read and critique their writing (something I usually don't do, except in very special cases), my only caveat is that I will be brutually honest and mince no words. I don't have patience with people who solicit an opinion who don't really want one but are merely looking for a pat on the back. And, as professional, whether it be writing or the theatre, it takes time and considerable thought to come up with a serious critique about how and why something either works or doesn't. I don't take the task lightly and so for someone to be offended after they've asked for it is, to me, the height of hypocrisy or dilletantism.
You and Jane don't see things differently from me. If you don't want honesty, don't ask me.
I agree with all of you. If I see a show, watch a trial or see friends works of art at a show and I see the friend I will find something nice to say, but I won't say I love it if I don't. On the other hand when someone specifically asks what I think about a certain painting they created, a show they were in or an argument they made in the courtroom, I'll tell them the truth. My feeling is if you ask me you are interested in my opinion. That's how I am. If I want an opinion, I know it won't always be positive, but if I ask for it I want the truth.
I'm really finding this whole conversatin quite off putting.
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I think because DR Jane and I are not creative types we see things differently. Also we are both nice people who do not like to hurt other people's feelings. But we are both pretty honest people who dislike lying.
I see things pretty much the same way she described it.
But because we have not written musicals/performed.... we do not see things the same way some of you who do these things do.
If I saw DR PennyO perform and thought the show was terrible I would probably not say I thought it was great. But I would try to find something complimentary to say.
The thing in question here though is when you specifically ask for an opinion. I don't think you should ask unless you want to hear the truth. But that is just my opinion.
But what if PennyO said, "did you like the show?" as most performers would. You would find something courteous to say, I'm sure. I keep saying, a simple "Good job" or "fun" is fine - whatever. That's just being nice and I see no reason to be otherwise, especially when other people are around. If I read something of Pogue's and hated it, I would never say that - ever. That's just not good, if you ask me. I'd say "This didn't work for me - good writing, but here's why it didn't work for me." I just find to approach things from a positive point of view is best. But mainly I'm speaking about what you say to someone in a public situation (and this board is public) - silence, to me, is not the way, it's not gracious, and not just about my stuff but about any stuff people are posting about. If someone hates Druxy's latest audio book my guess is that most here would still say "Nice." How hard is that? Druxy is not looking for critiques - that can be done privately if anyone felt the need. Anyway, good posts from all sides of the coin.
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And what exactly is off-putting, Cilla? People expressing different opinions? I like it. I like hearing from all sides, and who knows, I may even change my opinion based on logical well presented information. No one is saying you have to say something is the best thing since white bread and you know that. You said it yourself in your post - "I will find something nice to say..." You don't have to say you love it, but something nice is nice. No? If someone privately asks you what you really thought, let loose by all means. I certainly have with any number of people. The way in which I let loose is from a positive point of view rather than a negative because negative doesn't do anyone any good. My two centimes anyway.
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Now back to other matters. We had a wonderful rehearsal and Bill Hayes came and ran his song (he lives two minutes away) - what a sweetheart he is and his voice is still great. I'll go into specifics in the notes, but it's going to be a wonderful show.
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I will also say we've probably exhausted this topic, but again I say I've found all responses, whatever side one is on, interesting.
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Can one apply for Medicare through AARP if one is a member? I think I have to apply but have no idea how any of that works.
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Back, from wherever I've been all day. What a compelling thread this has been.
DR Elmore, that's an incredible tale about the dissolution of that friendship. I've known a couple of other long time friendships that I witnessed breaking up over (seemingly) sudden differences of opinion or behavior or whatever. It's always shocking, inexplicable, and senseless. (Those had nothing to do with the kind of thing being discussed here, just other wacky misunderstandings and miscommunications.)
I never discussed with him or his wife my disappointment over many of their actions, he owes many of his recording jobs with BK and John Yap to my recommendation, and I considred him a brother. Well, i disowned one of my real brothers and it didn't hurt at all; this one is killing me.
If it is who I think it might be...
Would it also mean that their child who you all have a relationship with also will be ended? It's a shame that the offspring is caught in the middle.
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Watching "The Palm Beach Story" tonight. What a fun piece of nonsense. Pacing perfect. Great script. Lovely performances.
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I've been to a number of restaurant openings where the chef has wanted an instant review of his or her restaurant. Most are friends, and opening nights of restaurants are often works in progress and not worthy of a review. My colleague will dive right in with every last thing, from too much sugar in a salad dressing to a steak ordered medium that came out medium rare. And she wonders why people won't call her whenever some news is happening. If things are bad, I usually say something nice and then offer to talk in private later about things in specific details. I've come to believe that opening nights of restaurants are not about me and my opinion. I'm there as a friend of the chef and as part of the greater support system of friends who are there to calm the chef's nerves because of the months of work and the millions of dollars that they've sunk into a project. I will go back after at least a few weeks -- two months is preferable -- and be completely honest about the state of the restaurant at that point. My allegiance is to my readers. If they feel I'm hedging because someone is a friend, then they won't trust me and they won't read me. And most of the chefs in town have come to respect that.
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Night, all.
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I don't know if I've ever told anybody looking for a critique, that I "hated" something, but I have been pretty scathing at times and not pulled any punches. If someone really wants to know something and I think I can pinpoint the trouble, I don't believe in sugarcoating the criticism to salve somebody's fragile ego. If if my opinion is it's shit, I'm going to say it's shit.
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Again, there are ways and there are ways. And I don't know that you'd be so happy if a close friend of yours said to your face that something you'd worked on long and hard and were proud of said it was absolute shit and should be burned until it is no more. What good would that do? But we are far afield from the original point now. I just had some toast and it was good, not shit.
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I toasted the toast before I ate it - I said, "To the toast - we knew ye well."
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Page six? Six pages? I am glad we had the discussion today for it has brought Pogue back in force and we always like that. His posts are shit, of course, worst things I've ever read, but I'm glad to have read them :)
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Speaking of shit, then there was Liz and Dick. And now that I think about it, if Lindsay Lohan called me and asked what I thought, I'd have to tell her, I guess. So, maybe I've been wrong.
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I gotta tell you.
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I would have been a better Elizabeth Taylor.
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Actually, given this town's propensity for remaking everything quickly, maybe we should remake Liz and Dick right now - I'll be Elizabeth Taylor, Pogue can be Richard Burton, Cilla can be Sybil Burton, ChasSmith can be Eddie Fisher - I love this idea.
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TCB can be Joe Mankiewicz.
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And after it airs we can all come on here and say it's SHIT. I love this.
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Well, that got us to page seven.
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Can one apply for Medicare through AARP if one is a member? I think I have to apply but have no idea how any of that works.
You can do it online at the Social Security Administration. That is all I know. I have 13 more months before I can qualify for Medicare. I have yet to find anyone that can explain why someone is approved for Disability, but has to wait 24 months to get medical coverage through Medicare.
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TCB can be Joe Mankiewicz.
Thanks! It must be my Jewish side that stands out.
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See, Pogue ran away when I called his post SHIT. :)
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I gotta tell you. Too late to watch a movie, too early to sleep - what the HELL.
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I've always felt that TCB and elmore were are most Jewish members. Well, that could be taken wrong - our most Jewish dear readers.
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Can one apply for Medicare through AARP if one is a member? I think I have to apply but have no idea how any of that works.
You can do it online at the Social Security Administration. That is all I know. I have 13 more months before I can qualify for Medicare. I have yet to find anyone that can explain why someone is approved for Disability, but has to wait 24 months to get medical coverage through Medicare.
I can answer that, Tom. It's because our benefits program is SHIT.
Seriously, it makes no sense, does it?
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I've always felt that TCB and elmore were are most Jewish members. Well, that could be taken wrong - our most Jewish dear readers.
Really?
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Can one apply for Medicare through AARP if one is a member? I think I have to apply but have no idea how any of that works.
You can do it online at the Social Security Administration. That is all I know. I have 13 more months before I can qualify for Medicare. I have yet to find anyone that can explain why someone is approved for Disability, but has to wait 24 months to get medical coverage through Medicare.
I can answer that, Tom. It's because our benefits program is SHIT.
Seriously, it makes no sense, does it?
I think everything is SHIT right now. I just read all my books again and they are SHIT. And I will that to my own face, should I ask, which I won't.
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I see that BK modified his post.
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And I feel Jeanne is our most Jewish female member - um, dear reader.
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Now these kinds of posts are SHIT - but I like them very much.
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See, Pogue ran away when I called his post SHIT. :)
Either that or he doesn't want to play Burton. Or maybe it is something about doing the love scenes with you.
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And I feel Jeanne is our most Jewish female member - um, dear reader.
I was wondering if you were going to include me.
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See, Pogue ran away when I called his post SHIT. :)
Either that or he doesn't want to play Burton. Or maybe it is something about doing the love scenes with you.
;D
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I've always felt that TCB and elmore were are most Jewish members. Well, that could be taken wrong - our most Jewish dear readers.
Yes, nothing says Jewish like a good Norwegian, unless it is a bad Norwegian.
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Can one apply for Medicare through AARP if one is a member? I think I have to apply but have no idea how any of that works.
You can do it online at the Social Security Administration. That is all I know. I have 13 more months before I can qualify for Medicare. I have yet to find anyone that can explain why someone is approved for Disability, but has to wait 24 months to get medical coverage through Medicare.
I can answer that, Tom. It's because our benefits program is SHIT.
Seriously, it makes no sense, does it?
None, but you are right. It is SHIT.
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Does that mean you're watching some of the Norwegian TV shows now, Tom? Maybe while eating a Danish.
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Where'd Tom go?
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Does that mean you're watching some of the Norwegian TV shows now, Tom? Maybe while eating a Danish.
No, but I did eat a Norwegian... Oh never mind.
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Where'd Tom go?
I'm still here.
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On a totally different note, has anyone watched GARROW'S LAW? It's a historical legal drama. Most interesting, IMHO.
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On a totally different note, has anyone watched GARROW'S LAW? It's a historical legal drama. Most interesting, IMHO.
I've never heard of it.
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It's British. Not well known here, I suspect.
Even I heard about Lindsay Lohan. Now I want to see LIZ & DICK just to see how bad it is.
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Time for me to scoot.
TTFN.
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Garrow's Law is SHIT. I haven't seen it, but it just is.
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I think Pogue would rather enjoy playing love scenes with me, especially with my huge boobs.
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Well, my work here is done.
G'night!
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So now the work is up to me? Alone? Without even Pogue to play love scenes with?
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Well, ChasSmith is still up - HE'S no WUSSBURGER.
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I saw ChasSmith, I swear. Perhaps he thought the posts were SHIT.
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I do love that dear reader Jeanne was part of an actual posting frenzy.
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A Christmas Carol - The Musical is what it is. Tried some new vocal things but the old vocal muscle memory kicks in on stage and all our hard work is gone. I can try and fix it, but I've been down that road before. It's not bad, just not what I wanted. We open next week, so maybe things can change. But as I said, I have been down this road before. The show itself is SO FAST and if you don't know where to look sometimes, you miss the story. It's all in the direction and since we're using tracks, I'm able to look at the stage and then add my 2 cents, which surprisingly is being received well and changes are being made. Seriously, if you blink, you'll miss something, and if your eyes don't know where to go, forget it. The show moves really fast, nothing you can do about that, but you can make sure the audience is following the story. If not, it can be worse than someone with ADD.
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And now, the moment I've been waiting for since Forbidden Broadway opened in NY again. The new CD is ready and available for download. I've only been waiting MONTHS for this!!!