Haines His Way
Archives => Archive 2 => Topic started by: bk on September 30, 2004, 12:00:41 AM
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Well, you've read the notes, you've remembered September and are looking forward to October and now it is time to post until the Oktoberfest Cows Come Home.
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I would have liked to see the Ziegfeld Follies back when Will Rogers was part of the line-up. His using the headlines of the newspaper as the basis for his comedy sounds a lot like what the late-nite hosts do these days on television...but he did it first!
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First Reply!
(The esteemed BK gets first post, always!)
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DR CP mentioned Randall Duk Kim yesterday. He started
the American Players Theatre in Spring Green, Wisconsin in 1979. They do Shakeseare (mostly) and other "classic" works using a rotating rep company. He worked at the Guthrie for a few years in the mid-late 70s and then moved on to Wisconsin. I don't know if he's still involved in APT. Here's a Web site for the theatre.
http://www.americanplayers.org/
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And here is a picture for you cat lovers. We were visiting my sister and her cat knew an easy touch, jumping onto Anthony's lap for a long sit.
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I'd like to go back and see JUMBO, a 1935 Billy Rose extravaganza featuring circus acts, Jimmy Durante, and songs by Rodgers and Hart, including my favorite, My Romance. The movie isn't remotely similar, which is a disappointment to me. You had to have been there.
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Good morning, all! I just finished reading last night's posts, and now I hope channels 13 and 21 for their pledge drives, which seem to come once a month, will program Danzaque Live from the Parthenon, Poet Laureate of the Zamfir, with special guests Charlotte Church, Sarah Brightman, and John Tesch.
DR JRand, I have a wonderful memory of ON BORROWED TIME, as a Hallmark or some other special in the late 50s or early 60s, with Ed Wynn and Beulah bondi, I recall. Yes, it's a wonderful play, and I saw the last revival with Nathan Lane as Mr Brink. I'd read the book many years ago, and I'm happy to own it now.
Born to Late, Born Too Late, and I thought you meant Born to Latte, a Starbucks tragedy!
Time Machine day:
I, too, would have loved to see Jack Benny in Vaudeville, along with Burns and Allen.
Not a concert, but Marian Anderson's debut as the first black singer at the Metropolitan Opera in UN BALLO IN MASCHERA.
Jacques Brel at Carnegie Hall.
Judy Collins at Carnegie Hall.
Tchaikovsky conducting at Carnegie Hall.
Florence Foster Jenkins at Carnegie Hall.
This morning the big toe on my left (lousy) foot won't stop throbbing. I woke up around 7 am with constant, sharp jabs in it, and I don't know what will stop it. I think it's arthritis, but it hurts like hell.
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Good lord that is one fat cat :)
I don't know much about historical nightclub acts. Judy Garland at the Palace would definitely not be turned down though!
Today I have a conference which forces me to walk up to the McGill Education building. The building is basically located on the edge of a cliff and is gruelling to get to from anywhere on lower campus. It requires mountain climbing gear in the winter. If I don't make it - the hainsies and kimlets can divide my belongings amongst themselves.
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There are so many performers I'd like to go back and see in their heyday. But honestly, the first performer who popped into my head when I read the TOD was Janis Joplin. I get goosebumps when I just see film clips of her concerts. I would have loved to have seen her in her early days with Big Brother and the Holding Company, before she hit it big time and went hogwild with the drug use which led to the deterioration of her ability to perform in front of an audience.
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Good morning, all! I just finished reading last night's posts, and now I hope channels 13 and 21 for their pledge drives, which seem to come once a month, will program Danzaque Live from the Parthenon, Poet Laureate of the Zamfir, with special guests Charlotte Church, Sarah Brightman, and John Tesch.
John Tesch, Feh! Danzaque does not share the stage with such American rabble. Danzaque will perform with true artists. Artists such as Yanni, Helmut Lotti and The Cheeky Girls.
Florence Foster Jenkins at Carnegie Hall.
Yes! Yes! Yes! And hopefully, to be invited to the reception afterwards.
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I would take the wayback machine (but without Sherman and Peabody) to see Al Jolson at the Wintergarden. I keep hearing what a wonderful performer he was but his recordings and films don't seem to capture that and I would love to see him in person to see what all the fuss was.
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Seeing Judy at Carnegie Hall and/or the Palace would have been great but I also would also LOVE to have seen the historic Pete Seeger concert at Carnegie Hall in June of 1963 (I was a mere 10 years old). I have the two CD set and it's amazing (IMHO).
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Judy at Carnegie
Noel at the Sands, or wherever in Vegas he was. (Not that I am a great fan of Mr. Coward, but I would love to have seen the reaction of his audiences to what must have seemed -- to them -- an alien life form.
Barbra at the Bon Soir.
Totie Fields at the Concord.
Steve and Eydie...ANYWHERE. (I never have gotten to see them live.)
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ClayStuart is pleased that he no longer has to refer to himself in the thrid person. Or as ClayStuart.
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Ditto for RBT
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A different Judy, this one Holliday, performing as part of The Revuers with Comden & Green.
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A different Judy, this one Holliday, performing as part of The Revuers with Comden & Green.
Pick up a ticket for me also, Ben.
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I've been reading DAZZLER, Steven Bach's superb biography of Moss Hart. There's a fascinating anecdote about MY FAIR LADY and a very astute Judy Holliday:
"After Mary Martin's dismissal of the project ["Those dear boys have lost their talent"], they ... approached Judy Holliday.
"Alan J. Lerner had a song for Eliza where she confesses she's falling in love with Higgins ... and Judy said, 'She can't sing that; she doesn't know she's falling in love with him."
(Judy Holliday committed instead to Bells Are Ringing. And Julie Andrews lost the Tony to her.)
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TOD: I would use the time machine to go back to the early 70s and see the Osmond Brothers in concert here in Phoenix. My mother wouldn't let me go at the time because she heard there were drugs at rock concerts.
DR Stuart: DR Kerry took me to see Steve and Eydie last year. He bought the tickets to take his aunt, but she didn't feel well that night so I got to go. They were swell! We sat third row center.
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Today I have receipts, papers, statements, etc. all over the table as I sit and muddle through probabe paperwork. Ugh. I don't want to do this.
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I feel quite punk this morning, so my only contribution for now will be the following factoid. Someone mentioned Steve and Eydie... Steve Lawrence's real name is Sidney Leibowitz; Eydie Gorme's real name is Edith Gormezano.
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Judy Garland appeared twice in Charlotte - in 1961 and in 1965. Unfortunately, I saw the latter show. After the debacle of her television series, her voice went into serious decline (easily documented in recordings and guest appearances on TV), and she was not in good voice the night I saw her here. Didn't matter; I loved her anyway, but to have seen her at the Palace or Carnegie Hall would have been nirvana.
Yep, Jack Benny for me too as far as comedians are concerned. Just adored him.
I think Noel Coward played the Desert Inn.
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I enjoyed DAZZLER quite a bit, but I feel there is still much to Moss Hart's life we'll never know, at least not until his diaries are released once his widow departs from this life.
I haven't begun the William Inge biography but once the shows are behind me and I have free time again, it jumps to the top of the list.
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I feel quite punk this morning, so my only contribution for now will be the following factoid. Someone mentioned Steve and Eydie... Steve Lawrence's real name is Sidney Leibowitz; Eydie Gorme's real name is Edith Gormezano.
Since the TONIGHT SHOW is in the news, what with its 50th Anniversary and the announcement of Jay Leno's successor, I suppose it would be fitting to mention that they met on Steve Allen's TONIGHT SHOW (and that he penned their big hit "This Could Be the Start of Something Big"), but my question is: Did they get married on the Tonight Show, or was that honor only reserved for Tiny Tim and Miss Vicki?
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I enjoyed DAZZLER quite a bit, but I feel there is still much to Moss Hart's life we'll never know, at least not until his diaries are released once his widow departs from this life.
I'm sure you're right. Happily, I don't think that'll be for awhile. Kitty Carlisle is a going concern. She's also portrayed in the book as a remarkable person - gifted and kind.
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DAZZLER is subtitled: The Life and Times of Moss Hart. The author presents an excellent picture of the times, and I think the book is must reading for anyone interested in the theatre.
(Bach also gives full credit to his sources, yet doesn't clutter the text with footnotes.)
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Who is Jay Leno's successor?
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Kitty Carlisle Hart and Brooke Astor are amazing. KCH just turned 94 (!) and Brooke Astor is over 100 and they both look and sound like youngsters. I don't know how KCH's singing voice has held up but they are both wonderful examples of living a full life in old age.
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Leno's successor is Conan O'Brien. Someone I have not "gotten" But I don't watch late night television anyway so it's of little concern to me.
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Here I am, still shlogging through yesterday's notes, but I had to answer this QUOTE FROM GEORGE:
I'd read that Isaac Asimov (I think) came up with orange...door hinge. Works for me!
Yes, I did indeed also come up with that one in Chapter 13: Rhyming Orange of my novel Any Other Season, soon to be available in its entirity on line, if'n I get off my butt cheeks and do it.
Now, back to yesterday...
Rip F. Orr
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Good Morning!
Boy has it been slow going for me this morning. I tried to get up early to take my car in, but it just simply wasn't going to happen. After not sleeping that much yesterday - and probably along with my supposed "jet lag" - I just really needed the sleep. And probably will take a nap this afternoon. My throat is feeling a little funny, but I think it's just a sign that I need to rest and relax while I can right now. -And I'm sure my "East Coast" allergies are also playing their part. In any case... As for the car, there's always tomorrow.
As for the Topic of the Day:
Speaking of The Tonight Show - I had always hoped to make it to a taping of "The Tonight Show" when Johnny Carson was the host. He was late night TV for me while I was growing up. Of course, since I was under the age of 18, I probably would not have been allowed into the studio for the live tapings, but I really would have liked to see one of those shows in person.
Going a little further back in time...
Leonard Bernstein's "last-minute" conducting debut with the New York Philharmonic.
Vladimir Horowitz at Carnegie Hall - His debut, his "return"... any concert.
...And a few others I can't really bring to the forefront of my brain my right now...
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My time machine would take me back to see Olivier, Gielgud, and Richardson in their prime live on stage.
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Kitty Carlisle Hart and Brooke Astor are amazing. KCH just turned 94 (!) and Brooke Astor is over 100 and they both look and sound like youngsters. I don't know how KCH's singing voice has held up but they are both wonderful examples of living a full life in old age.
Didn't KCH just do a cabaret act up there? I remember hearing something about it in the past week or so.
Leno's successor is Conan O'Brien. Someone I have not "gotten" But I don't watch late night television anyway so it's of little concern to me.
I thought O'Brien was awful in his first year or so on Late Nite, but now I think he's incredibly funny. Very edgy and off the wall. And his guests don't seem to mind and mostly join in on the fun. I'm not sure how he will work out doing the Tonight Show, though, since that show has pretty much morphed into just another celebrity publicity stop under Leno's tenure.
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I feel quite punk this morning, so my only contribution for now will be the following factoid. Someone mentioned Steve and Eydie... Steve Lawrence's real name is Sidney Leibowitz; Eydie Gorme's real name is Edith Gormezano.
And lemme guess. Both of Hungarian ancestry.
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I think Conan is one thousand times funnier than Jay Leno, and 2009 can't get here soon enough for me.
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DR Ben,
As a kid I was a big Jerry Lewis fan (times have changed). My dad took me to see Jerry Lewis at the Palace. Opening the show was a young female singer named Eydie Gorme. I was so eager to see Jerry, that I remember wishing she'd just hurry up.
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I also meant to mention last night that the second half of the LOST pilot was amazing - full of surprises, unexpected revelations, and suspense. Highly recommended! There is so much to explore on the island, and the people that we've met all seem to have fascinating back stories, only some of which we were shown last night. There is easily enough grist for a season-long mill based on what we've been shown thus far.
For those who haven't indulged but are curious, the entire two hour pilot is being shown this Saturday night on ABC.
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And lemme guess. Both of Hungarian ancestry.
Brooklyn ancestry (Sidney)
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I think it would be interesting to take the time machine to Paris of the '30s and see and hear firsthand what the Josephine Baker phenomenon was all about.
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CharlesPogue, I kept meaning to post last night I really wasn’t expecting an answer to my question-it was a joke. I really could not picture you responding to those posts. ;D
Ann is back!! Job well done Bruce. :)
I still haven’t finished reading last nights posts-but Echo awaits her walk.
I finally booked, well Keith finally booked me into a hotel in NY-the Wellington at 871 7th Street on the corner of 55th Street. :D
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Can anyone here convert an image on a pdf file to a jpeg I can post here?
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...the Wellington at 871 7th Street on the corner of 55th Street. :D
I do believe you mean Seventh Avenue, not 7th Street.
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Breathes there a man with soul so dead that he would not fly back in time to see Judy at the Palace?
I'd also like to see Piaf in some smoke-filled café, and Brel, most certainly.
I didn't see Babs at Bon Soir, but I did see her first LA concert in the Shrine Auditorium, right after her first LP was released. When she was still more of a cult thing than a Big Star. From the third row yet.
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I finally booked, well Keith finally booked me into a hotel in NY-the Wellington at 871 7th Street on the corner of 55th Street. :D
The Wellington is fun, and not too far a walk from Times Square. Nice rooms, and you can usually upgrade at check-in. It's also just a block from Carnegie Hall, and just a few blocks down from Central Park.
A lot of foreign tour operators use that hotel. The couple of times I've stayed there, I've been amazed at the virtual UN waiting in the lobby, and even more amazed at the desk staff's "language base".
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And speaking of Piaf...
She didn't show up when I invited her to my party in Paris. Didn't even send her regrets...
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Oh... The New York Times review of the 10Cs came out in today's edition - I think I mentioned this last night - ???
In any case, I don't think I've seen such universal pans of a show. And everyone seems to panning the same things. I guess that just goes to show how "obvious" the bad elements are.
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Can anyone here convert an image on a pdf file to a jpeg I can post here?
BK--you might be able to do this yourself.
Open the pdf and scroll to the image you want to convert.
Hit the "Ctrl" and "Print Scrn" buttons.
Open whatever you normally use to view jpegs and see if there is a paste function (should be under Edit on the menu.)
Then do a Save As and change the file type to jpg.
Finally, you will probably need to crop the image from the surrounding screen print.
If this doesn't work, e-mail me (blueskyfox@comcast.net) the pdf and I'll gladly convert it for you.
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Lenny Bruce would have been interesting to see. And Nichols & May and Woody Allen during their stand up years.
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I saw Judy twice in person and it was like two different people. The first time I saw her was shortly after her series proved not to be the bonnanza CBS hoped for. This concert was at Chicago's original McCormack Place and since Judy liked to sing late it didn't start until something like 10:00. Her opening act (Peter Allen and his "brother") turned me off to Allen so much that I never even bothered seeing BOY FROM OZ. Judy finally came out, sang a couple of songs and then it was intermission. The second half she was better, but still not good and she even flubbed the lyrics to "Over the Rainbow". A few years later, I saw her at the Palace and that time it was everything I had hoped or imagined. I was in the crush of people who was drawn to the stage by her magnetic power at the end of the show and I even got to shake her hand and speak to her. What a difference from the first time I saw her.
Regarding Jay Leno's successor, I haven't watched the "Tonight" show since guests were booked to plug their latest projects, not for their talent like the guests when Steve Allen or Jack Paar hosted. It has now become one long infomercial.
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Landlord Update: My landlord's new assistant - who, as it turns out, just relocated from L.A. - just came over with the contractor to look at the various things that have been in need of repair - some for over two years at this point. It looks like things will be getting fixed! YEAH!!! The big project will be redoing the floor in the bathroom - hmm, that seems to be going around. Hopefully, they'll get that done while I'm in Houston. ;)
And we'll finally be getting a new screen door for the back door! -Well, not "new" since there was never one there to begin with... Well, the hinges are still there, but not the screen door.
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I finally booked, well Keith finally booked me into a hotel in NY-the Wellington at 871 7th Street on the corner of 55th Street. :D
The Wellington is actually around the corner, basically, from my old stomping grounds, Columbia Artists Management. Somewhere in its bowels there used to be an audition room/hall. I remember the first time I was booking someone's audition for something or other, and was told that it was at the Wellington, I actually did one of those double takes, where you pull the receiver from your ear (this was long before the "headset" years), looked at it, and asked, somewhat incredulously, "The Wellington??!??"
It is also around the corner from the former Russian Tea Room, which of course was slightly to the left of Carnegie Hall.
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Good screen door vibes to DR Jose.
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Landlord/Apartment Update #2: We're getting a new refrigerator on Tuesday!!! No more condensation falling down on my food and eventually out onto the kitchen floor! Will wonders never cease?!?!?!? -Let's hope not.
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The Wellington is actually around the corner, basically, from my old stomping grounds, Columbia Artists Management. Somewhere in its bowels there used to be an audition room/hall. I remember the first time I was booking someone's audition for something or other, and was told that it was at the Wellington, I actually did one of those double takes, where you pull the receiver from your ear (this was long before the "headset" years), looked at it, and asked, somewhat incredulously, "The Wellington??!??"
It is also around the corner from the former Russian Tea Room, which of course was slightly to the left of Carnegie Hall.
It's actually a nice ballroom.
And barber shop and barber at The Wellington were featured on Letterman a few years ago as part of a running gag. You can see the pictures taped to the barber shop door.
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There are actually two nightclub acts I would LOVE to have seen...the #1 being Mae West's nightclub act that she had in the 1950s with her treasure trove of muscle beach beefcake...many of my interviewees were a part of her show...Gordon Mitchell, Reg Lewis, Mark Forest, and Mickey Hargitay! It would have been a blast to see that show and I understand it was quite funny.
Ms. Joi Lansing also had a successful nightclub act in the late 60s which I would have enjoyed seeing as I just adore her!
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And lemme guess. Both of Hungarian ancestry.
Funny you should ask... Somebody in the family once told me that Steve aka Syd is somehow related to us. He actually resembles my cousin, Janos - so it's not totally impossible. But I have serious doubts. I've never bothered to track it down.
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Good screen door vibes to DR Jose.
Thank you!
And the new handy-man will also be planing down our current door since right now we literally have to slam it shut to get it to close (all the humidity lately)... and to get it to open... ugh.. I know one of these days we're gonna end up pulling the door knob off. -Of course, coming home late at night, and then having to slam the door shut is so considerate of the neighbors. :-\
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The Wellington is actually around the corner, basically, from my old stomping grounds, Columbia Artists Management. Somewhere in its bowels there used to be an audition room/hall. I remember the first time I was booking someone's audition for something or other, and was told that it was at the Wellington, I actually did one of those double takes, where you pull the receiver from your ear (this was long before the "headset" years), looked at it, and asked, somewhat incredulously, "The Wellington??!??"
DR Stuart, the Houston Grand Opera used to audition in the space in the back of the Wellington's first floor. We auditioned BABES IN TOYLAND there in 1990.
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I have been remiss, oh so remiss. So:
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]GOOD HEALTH VIBES TO DEAR READER JOSE'S FATHER[/move]
[move=RIGHT,scroll,6,transparent,100%]GOOD FOOT AND LEG VIBES TO DEAR READER ELMORE[/move]
[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]GOOD TOE VIBES TO DEAR WRITER BRUCE[/move]
[move=RIGHT,scroll,6,transparent,100%]GOOD MOUSELESS VIBES TO DEAR READER JOSE[/move]
(Maybe your mouse should get together with DR Jason's?)
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To build this rhyme we'll need more engineers
And cool orange balm, or myrrh.
For when you're building rhymes THIS difficult
More injuries may occur.
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DR NOEL:
Don't tempt me. Don't tempt me...
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I would have liked to have seen Judy Garland in person at any point of her career. I'd also would have like to see Ethel Merman in all her big roles. And while it's only been 6 years since her death, I would have liked to have seen Laurie Beechman in "Joseph" or "Cats".
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Oooh! Page 3!
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LOL! WFO...love the hula dancer!!
Hey, JoseP! Have you watched your Bollywood yet? I am most curious as to what you will think of seeing your Bollywood hunk!
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DR Matthew:
I did indeed see Laurie in Joseph, and she turned that song "Strange as it seems..." (what's its title?) from a sort of bland throw-away on one of the concept albums into a rousing anthem. Oh, dat voice!
A colleague of mine in the math department actually invested a bit of money in the show... never did see a return.
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WITHOUT A DOUBT.....................
Judy, preferably at Carnegie Hall.
Barbara Cook in SHE LOVES ME!
Streisand, opening night in FUNNY GIRL.
Anthony Newley, opening night in ROAR / SMELL.
.........and finally, and why not, Mary Martin in SOUTH PACIFIC.
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Oh, if we're doing opening nights, I definitely want to see Mrs. Patrick Cambel in Pygmalion just for the audience reaction when she uses "that word".
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What did Skippy Jay play hooky from yesterday?
Yes, 7th Avenue. I just checked my emails to friends & family and I did send them the correct info. :)
Jose, Keith booked me a nice room. He is so sweet. I am curious when you say you can upgrade, is that for more money or do you mean they will upgrade you if they have the space available?
And congrats on the approval for your home improvements. :D
Now that Ann has returned, what about Jed?
And Jenny, who has a birthday coming up soon, has returned to us. :)
Streisand, in concert
Elvis Presley when he was young, thin and wore all black
Mary Martin in SOUTH PACIFIC.
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Hey, if we're going to shows, didn't we do this many months ago? I want to see Barbara Cook in everything from CANDIDE to THE GRASS HARP!
Merman in GIRL CRAZY and GYPSY.
Bessie Wynn in BABES IN TOYLAND.
Ruth Etting in SIMPLE SIMON.
Mary Martin in SOUTH PACIFIC (I'm still pissed I missed seeing her and Robert Preston in I DO! I DO! in its Cincinnati tryout).
Rosalind Russell in WONDERFUL TOWN.
Ruth Gordon in THE MATCHMAKER.
Kaye Ballard in THE GOLDEN APPLE and CARNIVAL.
Gwen Verdon in REDHEAD.
I, too, saw Laurie Beechman in JOSEPH, God bless her soul. She was a beautiful lady, and she died far too young.
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I was lucky enough to see Barbara Cook in SHE LOVES ME, and it was one of my most memorable nights in the theater ever. She was just as wonderful as Magnolia in SHOW BOAT at Lincoln Center. Those are the only two times I've ever seen her live, but they rank among my most vivid show memories.
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Finally got around this afternoon to watching FATHER OF THE PRIDE from Tuesday night. It was the program's funniest show. That's not to say it was wall-to-wall funny; it's not, but Danny DeVito was the guest voice last night of a lobster, and he was hysterical. Plus, the Siegfred and Roy characters were as off-the-wall campy as always having run-ins with everyone from Dick Chaney to Streisand and Brolin.
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I just missed seeing Barbara Cook in She Loves Me (I had tickets, but the show closed unexpectedly). I did see her in Show Boat, but remember that production mostly for Constance Towers - so dramatic and heartbreaking as Julie.
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Hmmmmmmmm....
I saw Judy in Cincinatti in 1966 or 1967....not in good voice but still wonderful to have seen her.
Saw Jack Benny in his show at Starlight Musicals....very funny, a bit "blue" - but still wonderful to remember. He had the audience in the palm of his hand. No matter what else was going on, his reaction to it was what we wanted to see...and what was the funniest thing of all. At one point he went into the orchestra to check to see if they had tickets and pulled out a punch and put holes in them....LOL.
There are so many things I would like to have seen, but I choose only one:
Anne Bancroft & Patty Duke in "THE MIRACLE WORKER"
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WITHOUT A DOUBT.....................
Judy, preferably at Carnegie Hall.
Barbara Cook SHE LOVES ME! in concert
Streisand, opening night in FUNNY GIRL. in concert
Anthony Newley, opening night in ROAR / SMELL. in concert
.........and finally, and why not, Mary Martin in SOUTH PACIFIC.
Sorry, I forgot. Concerts and nightclubs!
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So many classic plays and musicals I would like to have seen, and my top choice would probably be different today from what it would have been last week or what it's going to be next week.
But at this moment, I think I'd say LADY IN THE DARK with Gertrude Lawrence and Danny Kaye.
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Finally gave in to whatever it was that was bothering me and slept for two glorious hours. Best sleep I've had in weeks. Feel much better.
Most of what I'd like to have seen has been mentioned. But how about seeing the Divine Ms M at the Baths? Wouldn't that have been fun?
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Here are some actual production photos from What If. First, the preamble to the opening number.
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Tammy, singing Times Like This
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Here's Paul Haber in Jerry Herman's Sweeney Todd
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More Paul Haber pictures, please!!!
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The divoon Susanne Blakeslee.
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Alet, doing If I Can't Take It With Me in her green is the color of money dress.
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Tammy in Bock and Harnick's A Chorus Line.
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Paul as Mr. Karp.
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Ryan singing Rupert Holmes' I Don't Need You.
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I think I could have a little crush on Paul H.
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The company doing Irving Berlin's West Side Story
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The curtain call.
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Great pics. It's funny - each day a different song from the show floats into my head and plays all day in the bg (that's BACKGROUND, DRJay!). Today it's been Paul H singing "Millions of Men." Yesterday it was Susanne's version of "A Slight Neurotic"...
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Fun pics!
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I think I could have a little crush on Paul H.
Ya think?
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Ummm.. To quote Sunday In The Park With George...
"No one can even see my profile."
;)
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Yes, a pic of Jose, if you have one! ;D
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Can someone tell me what this sudden urge is to listen to the revival of "Show Boat" is coming from???
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100th "Matthew" post!!!! Wow, I'm behind.
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I may have set the precedent for putting artists with shows, instead of nightclub acts, with Will Rogers in Ziegfeld's Follies. Sorry about that. On the other hand, it was something he changed nightly, so it's not exactly like a scripted stage show. (Then, again, I understand Gertrude Lawrence was like that in every show she was in, so a second vote for Lady in the Dark is appropriate. ::))
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Can someone tell me what this sudden urge is to listen to the revival of "Show Boat" is coming from???
Good taste?
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I would take the wayback machine (but without Sherman and Peabody)...
Technically, that's the W. A. B. A. C.
But my bet is that you did that deliberately, to see how long it would take for someone to catch the error. Right?
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These pics were taken opening night. They are not optimal, and it never occured to the photographer to shoot the piano player. And it was before I'd changed the curtain call to incorporate him.
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These pics were taken opening night. They are not optimal, and it never occured to the photographer to shoot the piano player. And it was before I'd changed the curtain call to incorporate him.
"shoot the piano player"... Heh!
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All the pics bring back fond memories. I am hoping the show will be back the same time Grand Hotel is playing in LA
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As for the time machine I think I would love to have seen a show at Shakespeare's Globe Theater and a play by Aristophenes.
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Equal time. We must shoot the piano player - sans piano - but shot all the same.
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The DR's that mentioned the Judy Garland at the Palace... was there ever a recording made of that show?
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YEs, one of the most famous live recordings ever made - Judy at the Palace on Capitol
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Evening all. I want to post this ASAP in case I lose the internet again. It was up—you all saw me on line the night before last but when I came home from work yesterday, it was gone. Most unseemly.
I know I owe some of you e-mails and I need to go back and read everything I missed but forgive me if I am a bit slow.
Today was the day the lady I worked with retired and it has been a very long and tiring two days. They held the retirement party for her yesterday. As usual, I made a fool of myself and started to cry. I’ve been crying on and off all day today as well. I hate when I do that but no matter how I try not to, I can’t make myself stop. I’m just not good at partings. Right now, I feel very tired and washed out. I think I will be going to bed fairly early.
I have some pictures to share but I have to resize them for the board. Let me go back and read what I missed, resize some photos and then if it’s not too late (and I still have internet access), I’ll be back.
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Great pics of What If
I'm not sure why DR Jed has been so E&T of late...probably just preoccupied with lack-of-job problems...who knows.
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To tired to do a lot of reading but I did resize some pictures.
Here is the restaurant we went to for lunch.
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Yes, it is a seafood restaurant but the sign is cute.
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Here is the world famous Bayshore Blvd. Looking at the picture, it is hard to believe that less then a week ago that nice looking water was OVER that concrete fence! :o
The whole road was underwater.
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One last photo.
Here is the skyline of Tampa from Bayshore Blvd.
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Danise-cute sign and nice pics. Don't be too lonely without your friend tomorrow.
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"shoot the piano player"... Heh!
François Truffaut and Charles Aznavour would definitely agree on that! :D
http://www.chez.com/filmotruffaut/59Tirez.htm
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One last photo.
Here is the skyline of Tampa from Bayshore Blvd.
Thanks to the US Immigration -- those people do NOT have wrinkles because they don't smile!! -- I visited Tampa many times over the years I lived in Florida!
I'm also quite familiar with Clearwater, on the outskirts of Tampa, where I saw Julie Andrews in Concert....
You needed to know that! :)
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I just came home from doing a few errands. Everybody was rushing home for the debates. 32 pages of negotiated debate rules! I figure by the time they go throught the rules, it will all be over.
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Following is a link for the best cat nip toys I have ever found. Since I just ordered a few more for Bogie I thought I would share.
http://www.fullcircleherb.com/default.html
He likes the extra long, 4 links one.
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Hi all again. Decided to go back and read some more.
Congratulations to DR Elmore not needing his crutches! How wonderful!
Thank you to DR Noel the information about Issadora Duncan. I knew that she had died while riding a vehicle but I just wasn’t sure what kind and I couldn't remember her name. I hate it when I have a half memory of something I know I read or heard about.
I guess no one knew the answer to my other question.
I saw the comments about this board and how everyone here gets along together and I would like to make my own, if I may. Part of the reason I think that people get along here is because they don’t pick on one another over silly little mistakes.
For instance, I know that there are writers and publishers on this board and I also know that my grammar/spelling is not the best. I know it must drive them crazy when I use the wrong punctuation and/or word (such as the wrong to/too) but instead of getting all the bent out of shape and calling me down for it they allow me to communicate as I will.
I have seen other boards were a simple infraction of grammar or spelling has caused mass flame wars.
I’m not hundred percent sure as to the other reasons why everyone here gets along so well but I am so very glad that we do. After a long hard day, coming here is like an oasis in the middle of chaos.
This is become more than a “board” to come and post on. Judging from the emails, the snail mails, the phone calls and having someone like DR Elmore take some of his time to have dinner with me when I was in New York City, I feel like I have made some genuine friends.
I guess it's just that the people of this board look past the avatars and screen names and see that there are people behind each and every one of them. I think the people of other boards forget that if you have the power to reach out and make someone laugh or chuckle at something you've posted, you should also realize that you can hurt them as well. "It's just a board. You shouldn't take it serious." just isn't realistic.
And in case I haven’t said it, Bruce, thank you for creating this place and thank you for allowing me to post here.
On that note, I think I need to say goodnight. :)
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I'm also quite familiar with Clearwater, on the outskirts of Tampa, where I saw Julie Andrews in Concert....
You needed to know that! :)
Clearwater--that's where most of the old folks stay. ;) How familiar are you with it?
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Sad to be all alone in the world.
Debates? Is that why I'm the only one here? I have to believe that the entertainment quotient and intelligence at haineshisway.com will be far superior to that of any debates. I shall watch a DVD and sit in the hot tub, not necessarily in that order. Perhaps I'll even take a swim since the pool's about eight-two degrees right now.
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Bruce if you have more pictures from What If? I and I am sure the rest of the DR would love to see them.
Also
did the new song Born Too Late replace I Don't Need You or Chinese Food In Bed?
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Are the debates shown live on the West Coast or tape delay?
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Clearwater--that's where most of the old folks stay. ;) How familiar are you with it?
Well, the first time I went there was in... 1977!
I was living in Montréal then, and a Canadian friend of mine had a condo in Safety Harbor, where the Spa is.
I remember the famous Kapoke Tree Restaurant which closed a few years ago!
Then, in the eighties, I had the opportunity of going back there often. I forget the name of the big Shopping Mall on the way to Clearwater Beach; I enjoyed going there, and it was so sad, when I went back for a visit "to my past" in Florida, in 2001 to see that huge place almost empty, with hardly ten stores remaining open, mainly haidressers'....
I also went many times to the terrific Eckerd Ruth Hall, downtown Clearwater, where I saw Julie and also Rosemary Clooney in her Christmas Show....
http://www.rutheckerdhall.com/
Bernadette P. is to appear there next January!!
In 2001, on my way in from France, I landed in Tampa late at night, rented a car and checked in some motel, and went first thing in the morning to Clearwater Beach: I love the causeway leading to the beach, with those huge bushes -- I did not print kerries, you noticed!! -- of poisonous laurels....
There are LOADS of old folks everywhere in Florida, Danise!! :D
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Ok......I found an old digital pic, which I think is too pixilated to last long. But as someone said either earlier today or yesterday, this is a very personal site, and having pics of everyone seems to make us all a bit closer. So there you go.
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New page!
Let's do the laurel dance!
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Hoorah! Page 5
(http://www.dancestudioescondido.com/pic.%20Animated%20St%20Pat.s%20day%20Dancing%20dde.gif)
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did the new song Born Too Late replace I Don't Need You or Chinese Food In Bed?
I'm not BK, but...
"Annie" replaced "Joshua Noveck"
"Born Too Late" replaced "Parsley"
-Which actually ended up placing three BK songs in a row: "When You're Waiting For Love", "Annie" then "Born Too Late".
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Stuart it is nice to see your face.
Danise, very well put. I must disagree with you, errors are sometimes pointed out…in a friendly way of course. ;D
We are recording the debate and will begin watching it soon.
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Bruce if you have more pictures from What If? I and I am sure the rest of the DR would love to see them.
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did the new song Born Too Late replace I Don't Need You or Chinese Food In Bed?
Neither - it replaced his first act solo, Parsley.
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Neither - it replaced his first act solo, Parsley.
I thought it replaced a song in the 2nd act. Well got to go fix that info.
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I just came from a wonderful party Jo Sullivan Loesser threw for the WHERE'S CHARLEY? company. It was really great to see everyone from the cast and production staff, and Jo is an amazing lady I've loved since working with her on the Kennedy Center WHERE'S CHARLEY? in 1998.
DR Jane, during the course of the evening we learned that Tony Walton lived in the Wellington following his separation from Julie Andrews. I gather several artists and performers live there full-time. You may see somebody famous in the lobby!
DR Stuart, it's a nice face. (A SWEET CHARITY reference)
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IMHO, Kerry "won" the debates.
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Yes, thanks for the WHAT IF pics. They did give a slight taste of the show.
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That is because you are a Kerry-ite. I'm sure Bush-ites (whomever they may be) thought he won the debate. I'm quite certain that the real fact of the matter is that the "debate" was peurile and pointless and that no one won the debate. Everyone lost - the candidates and the people who watched them.
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BK, aren't you thinking of Judy Garland's live Carnegie Hall recording on Capitol, not her Palace set?
There was an LP pressed (it may be a pirated recording but I have it) of one of Garland's last Palace shows in 1952. She takes a moment to introduce in the audience Laurenz Melchior who was following her into the Palace.
Of course, her last Palace appearance was recorded on ABC-Paramount.
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I just came from a wonderful party Jo Sullivan Loesser threw for the WHERE'S CHARLEY? company. It was really great to see everyone from the cast and production staff, and Jo is an amazing lady I've loved since working with her on the Kennedy Center WHERE'S CHARLEY? in 1998.
If you have any influence with her, DR Elmore, how about convincing her to lift the ban of releasing the movie version of WHERE'S CHARLEY on DVD. From what I understand, its unavailability is due to her.
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IMHO, Kerry "won" the debates.
DR Panni, it seems the folk in Masillon, Ohio, seen with Tom Brokaw, agree with you! I'm sorry I missed the debates, but I know I'll be hearing plenty about them.
Good night, all you wonderful folk!
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So wonderful to see that DR Larry is back with us and is in somewhat better shape!
Larry, the best is yet to come!!
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That is because you are a Kerry-ite. I'm sure Bush-ites (whomever they may be) thought he won the debate. I'm quite certain that the real fact of the matter is that the "debate" was peurile and pointless and that no one won the debate. Everyone lost - the candidates and the people who watched them.
BK, I'm afraid you might be right!
I have a small portable radio and, believe it or not, some French radio has broadcast the whole thing, all in OV -- original version !! -- and I heard part of it, and what I heard was.... distressing to say the least!
BUT.... vote, people, VOTE!
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I watched two DVDs tonight (in addition to JOEY and WILL & GRACE): the relatively new Disney cartoon THE THREE MUSKETEERS and the 1996 revenge/caper film CITY OF INDUSTRY. Both were strange.
The Disney opus came straight to video, and its musical song score is made up of classic music from the worlds of opera, ballet, and the concert stage set to new lyrics (and excerpts from THE PIRATES OF PENZANCE). The movie is basicly an hour long, and there's about 10 minutes of plot. Not bad for a made-for-video effort (nice sound, decent if cutrate animation that looked nice in anamorphic widescreen), but a far cry from the studio's glory days as an animation giant.
CITY OF INDUSTRY was recommended highly by a friend, and though the cast was game, I really didn't understand his enthusiasm. Decent enough plot, fine acting, but hardly anything out of the ordinary for a crime/caper film.
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Kerry complimenting Bush because he thinks he has a wonderful wife!!!
I'm telling you???
What is that????
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If you have any influence with her, DR Elmore, how about convincing her to lift the ban of releasing the movie version of WHERE'S CHARLEY on DVD. From what I understand, its unavailability is due to her.
DRMattH, I don't know the reasons for the WHERE'S CHARLEY? film situation, but I, too, would love to see the film on DVD. I know that a couple of songs not in the movie were recorded and possibly filmed. The "New Ashmolean" number starts into the dance music and fades out, so there was clearly more to the number, possibly to cut the film to 90 minutes. Perhaps Frank was unhappy with the truncation of the score?
Hopefully, the successful reviews of the show, and sold-out houses, at Goodspeed will lead to a re-evaluation of the film. We can hope!
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I just came from a wonderful party Jo Sullivan Loesser threw for the WHERE'S CHARLEY? company. It was really great to see everyone from the cast and production staff, and Jo is an amazing lady I've loved since working with her on the Kennedy Center WHERE'S CHARLEY? in 1998.
That was a wonderful summer at the Kennedy Center with those series of concert performances of musicals. They also did Purlie and some other show I can't remember right now. They tried to continue the series, but the funding and interest fell out. Ah, well...
Did you enjoy working with Kay Cameron?
-Oh, it was Bells Are Ringing, wasn't it? I think it was - Faith Prince starred, and Tina Landau directed... Which led to the not-so-long lasting revival.
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BK's friend, Toby Bluth has worked on Disney's The Three Musketeers!
http://www.jimhillmedia.com/mb/articles/showarticle.php?ID=1042
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If anyone is interested there are three pages dedicated to What If? at
http://www.brucekimmel.com/WhatIfAMusicalRevue.htm (http://www.brucekimmel.com/WhatIfAMusicalRevue.htm)
The links to the other pages are at the top of the page (the spotlights) and the bottom of the page (musical notes)
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yes, DRMATTH, I think Judy's Grammy winning album was Judy At Carnegie Hall.....and yes her Back Home at the Palace was recording of her 1967 show.
Some say that her first "live" recording as such was a 1950's performance at Cocoanut Grove. I have that LP....but there may be others. I think there is a pressing of her closing night in 1952 at the Palace, but I don't think it's an "official" release.
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Kerry complimenting Bush because he thinks he has a wonderful wife!!!
I'm telling you???
What is that????
They're hoping to get on a new television show that's being broadcast here in the States, called Wife Swap.
The wives/mothers of two families trade places for two weeks. The first week, the women have to abide by the previous house rules. The second week, the women get to set the rules.
Go ahead, use your imagination.
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Last week's MAdTV had just such a sketch! The two candidates wives switched homes....
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They're hoping to get on a new television show that's being broadcast here in the States, called Wife Swap.
The wives/mothers of two families trade places for two weeks. The first week, the women have to abide by the previous house rules. The second week, the women get to set the rules.
Go ahead, use your imagination.
We have that show here already!!
The original idea is from.... England! ::)
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Of course I was thinking of Carnegie Hall. Silly me.
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When I left school tonight at 7:30 after a rehearsal, I saw some strange behavior around the building. The principal ran in and immediatly got on the phone, and I thought it was odd to see him there so late. Then I saw cops all around interviewing boys from my grade. I assumed there was a car accident.
For the past hour, I've been getting calls and IMs from my classmates saying that there was a shooting either in or around the school tonight, and at least one student is dead.
There has been nothing on local news or online about it. I could be wrong. I hope I'm wrong. This is all like a big game of telephone. I have no clue what's going on.
DR William F. Orr, don't you live in the area? Have you heard anything about this?
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I think Kerry won too, but like BK said, it's because I'm a Kerry-ite. I really don't think what happened tonight is going to flip any votes.
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For those late-night denizens who roam the halls of haineshisway.com, here is the cover for the new book.
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Nice lid, man.
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If anyone needs me I shall be in the spa relaxing.
Jenny, let us know if you've heard anything further.
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For the past hour, I've been getting calls and IMs from my classmates saying that there was a shooting either in or around the school tonight, and at least one student is dead.
I have just found out a little more information, and it sounds like the shooting occured directly outside the school (while I was steps away inside) over a bad drug deal. I hear that three were shot and one is dead. All are students at my school, though I don't think I've met any of them.
I go to two schools: one in Queens and one on Long Island. The shooting occured at the Long Island school. Go figure.
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Looking at next weeks TCM listings I see that 3 versions of SHOW BOAT will air. Having seen none of them I will try to catch at least one...likely the 1929 version.
Lots of other good 1930s musicals are playing as well!
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I could use a little more Paul Haber here, by the way!
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Looking at next weeks TCM listings I see that 3 versions of SHOW BOAT will air. Having seen none of them I will try to catch at least one...likely the 1929 version.
DR MBarnum, don't miss the 1930s one; Helen Morgan is irreplaceable, and the rest of the cast is excellent.
Dear Friend BK, great cover! I know I said good night an hour and a half ago, but I can't sleep!
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Yes, DR Elmore3003, what in the Sam Hill are you doing up still!
I have my VCR set to record six (6) 1930s Dick Foran B-westerns...that is right...I will be having a regular hootenanny all weekend long!
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That is because you are a Kerry-ite. I'm sure Bush-ites (whomever they may be) thought he won the debate. I'm quite certain that the real fact of the matter is that the "debate" was peurile and pointless and that no one won the debate. Everyone lost - the candidates and the people who watched them.
That's not exactly so. Last time around, although I was a Gore-ite, I thought Gore did horribly in the debates. I agree that Bushites will not suddenly turn and embrace Kerry. But Kerry could have done himself a great deal of harm tonight - and he didn't. He handled himself "presidentially" and Bush did not. For one thing, cut-aways showed Bush looking petulant and angry. Not a good thing for the leader of the free world.
The debate was not pointless and puerile. If nothing else, Kerry made a very important point about the dangers of "certainty." We are living under a president who is certain that God is on his side and what he does is right come hell or high water (a Minnie Kritzer reference). It was vital that this be pointed out. Kerry also spoke forcefully about this pointless war in which thousands of young men and women are being killed and billions of dollars that could be used for health care and other life and death matters in this country are being squandered. So no - I don't think that "everyone lost." I do think that anyone who CAN vote in this election and does not, will be the real loser.
End of rant.
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[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Ladies and gentlemen...Dick Foran, the singing cowboy![/move]
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I personally found your rant predictable and I find most political debate predictable, and I really don't care for either gentleman. Bush is a dangerous buffoon, and Kerry is, well, I don't know WHAT Kerry is.
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DRJenny I will keep everyone around your school in my thoughts and prayers. Keep us informed. I'm sure it must be kind of scary to think you were so close to it. I hope you are doing ok.
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You may be Kerry-ites, but it seems to be the consensus of all the pundits that Kerry won. An unscientific poll on MSNBC has Kerry the victor by 70%.
It's my assessment too. Bush sounded like a broken record. "We're making progress"; "We're doing the job"; "It's hard work"; "A free Iraq is good for democracy." He kept repeating his spin points and delivered very little substance. He also flustered, flubbed, hesitated, stuttered, sighed, and took abnormally long, uncomfortable pauses. He also seemed to get testy and petulant a couple of times. And in the cutaways, he had an expression on his face that made him look like a befuddled chimp. Kerry was composed, collected, and stay on point. And, I thought, answered the accusations quite well. He helped himself tonight.
Does everybody think the real issue of this election is going to be The War on Terror (although one could say that Iraq had nothing to do with the War on Terror until Bush invaded it)?
MSNBC had an undecided focus group watching the debate. They all thought Kerry won the debate, they all were leaning toward Kerry afterward...their main concerns were jobs and health care. Could be "It's the economy, stupid!" once again.
I don't know why the Democrats haven't invoke the "Are you better off now than you were four years ago" line? I think most people would answer "No. Our personal and national security aren't better. Our personal and national finances aren't better. Our Health Care is not better. The cost of our perscription medicines aren't better. Our job situation isn't better. Our civil liberties and personal freedoms in our own country aren't better."
By the by, now that the Log Cabin Republicans aren't endorsing Bush, where do our gay Republicans stand these days?
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That's not exactly so. Last time around, although I was a Gore-ite, I thought Gore did horribly in the debates. I agree that Bushites will not suddenly turn and embrace Kerry. But Kerry could have done himself a great deal of harm tonight - and he didn't. He handled himself "presidentially" and Bush did not. For one thing, cut-aways showed Bush looking petulant and angry. Not a good thing for the leader of the free world.
The debate was not pointless and puerile. If nothing else, Kerry made a very important point about the dangers of "certainty." We are living under a president who is certain that God is on his side and what he does is right come hell or high water (a Minnie Kritzer reference). It was vital that this be pointed out. Kerry also spoke forcefully about this pointless war in which thousands of young men and women are being killed and billions of dollars that could be used for health care and other life and death matters in this country are being squandered. So no - I don't think that "everyone lost." I do think that anyone who CAN vote in this election and does not, will be the real loser.
End of rant.
Well said, Panni, well said!
... and ONLY our pet Petula (Clark) should be petulant! ;)
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[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Ladies and gentlemen...Dick Foran, the singing cowboy![/move]
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Hummmm.... who's the girl?? :D
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Does everybody think the real issue of this election is going to be The War on Terror (although one could say that Iraq had nothing to do with the War on Terror until Bush invaded it)?
I don't know why the Democrats haven't invoke the "Are you better off now than you were four years ago" line?
I think the Republicans would like that to be the "real" issue... "If you don't elect us, the boogie man's gonna get you!"
I heard Clinton - pre heart problems - invoke the "Are you better off" line, And very effectively, too.
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My point wasn't really about who "won" or didn't win in the eyes of fans or pundits or focus groups. My point is I don't think either gentleman is such great Presidential material, which always seems to be the case in these recent races - the lesser of two evils. There's nothing really wrong with Kerry - as I said, I don't really know WHAT he's about.
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Looking at next weeks TCM listings I see that 3 versions of SHOW BOAT will air. Having seen none of them I will try to catch at least one...likely the 1929 version.
Lots of other good 1930s musicals are playing as well!
Three? I know of the earlier one with Irene Dunn, Paul Robeson and Helen Morgan, and a later one with Kathryn Grayson, Howard Keel and Ava Gardner in the role that should have been played by Lena Horne. What's the third one?
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Ok......I found an old digital pic, which I think is too pixilated to last long. But as someone said either earlier today or yesterday, this is a very personal site, and having pics of everyone seems to make us all a bit closer. So there you go.
Such a punim!
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I’ve only read page one, but I thought that I should post at least one post today. I’ve been busy at work ordering books, I had lunch with a retired co-worker and I never had a moment to read any of today’s posts at work. Right now, I’m at the house where I’m house-sitting and it took me 20 minutes just to read page one! Not because I’m a slow reader, but this is one freakin’ slow computer! It literally takes 10 seconds to page down one screen! It took more than five minutes just to load. Now, I’m going to watch “The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.” He’s talking about tonight’s Presidential debate, which I watched. So, I’m (finally) logged in, but not here…until 11:30!
As for the Topic of the Day: specifically “nightclub” or “cabaret” performers: Judy Holliday performing anything, Judy Garland performing anything, Bette Midler in any of her Bath House performances with Barry Manilow as her accompanist.
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I personally found your rant predictable and I find most political debate predictable, and I really don't care for either gentleman. Bush is a dangerous buffoon, and Kerry is, well, I don't know WHAT Kerry is.
Are you suggesting, then, that there be no political debate? If so, I must respectfully, but vehemently, disagree.
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I really wanted to watch the debate tonight, but I did not see it, as I was at the Walt Disney Concert Hall to witness the debut of its spectacular concert organ.
Mr. Frederick Swann (organist emeritus of the Riverside Church in New York, the Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove and the First Congregational Church of Los Angeles) played a wide-ranging program that showed off the new instrument's capabilities. In addition to pieces by Bach, Mendelssohn and Franck, there were five pieces by composers I had never heard of before tonight.
Here's a picture of the facade of the organ. Some have likened it to a box of french fries or a set of pick-up sticks. As pretty as they are to look at, those angled pipes are working elements of the instrument.
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For those late-night denizens who roam the halls of haineshisway.com, here is the cover for the new book.
I like the cover, BK. Very simple, to the point, effective.
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By the by, now that the Log Cabin Republicans aren't endorsing Bush, where do our gay Republicans stand these days?
I believe Guerrero, the head of LCR, used the phrase "withholding our endorsement." This is due to Bush's support of the anti-marriage amendment, and shouldn't be confused with any other part of his administration.
Personally, I still haven't been given any reason to endorse Kerry. Let's not forget, he also is against gay marriage, and I don't find his "civil unions" arguement strong enough for my support.
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Are you suggesting, then, that there be no political debate? If so, I must respectfully, but vehemently, disagree.
I'm not suggesting anything - I'm suggesting that these "debates" bore me to tears. If there were no rules and the gloves could come off, then maybe it would be interesting. If people want to get all het up about these things, fine. I was merely stating my opinion.
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My October movie poster calendar page is for CAT PEOPLE...
"She was marked with the curse of those who slink and court and kill by night!"
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Here it is....
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I loved the tight, controlled structure of the debate and McLehrer moderated well. A gloves- off debate would just degenerate into spin and mindless accusations.
The problem with political debate, thanks to partisan pundits like Rush Limbaugh, it's become like the Jerry Springer Show. No intellect. No logic. No facts. Just lots of voluble emotionalism and simplistic one-liners. We need rules and structure and these people have to be held accountable and be forced to stay on point.
One of the things that I really hate anymore is that newscasters just let the partisan pundits ramble their spin, instead of calling them on their shit and make them answer the the tough questions.
It was interesting to watch Bush tonight just ignore questions and accusations and stick to his dogmatic mantra of the same tiresome, desperate expressions over and over again. You could see in the cutaways how rattled and befuddled he was. And howcum no news person has picked up on remark about the woman who had lost her husband and he didn't know how "to love" her.