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Title: EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 12:00:39 AM
Well, you've read the notes, you're now effervescent and ebullient, not necessarily in that order, and now it is time to post until the E & E cows come home.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 12:05:58 AM
Re the late postings, I'm going to ask once again to stop with the nitpicking on grammar and spelling, it's REALLY annoying and we are not about annoying here, even if we don't always agree.  Especially when people have explained themselves it seems churlish to then keep on about it.  So, halt, put the brakes on, knock it off, not necessarily in that order.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: George on October 06, 2004, 12:13:00 AM
I taped the debate and will watch it...sometime.  I taped it off of C-SPAN and it was joined in progress.  I have to check to see if it repeats it right away.  It’s replaying right now, so I think that I got it all.

Also, for any sports fans (if any at all), I was errant and truant tonight because I was at the Seattle Storm women's basketball game against the Sacramento Monarchs.  They won the Western Division Championship and at the end of the week will play for the WNBA Final!  They won 82-62!!  Just had to share. ;D

Also, while I was in Seattle, I stopped at a Tower Records and FINALLY got The Manhattan Transfer's brand new CD "Vibrate (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002VEXAU/qid=1097046600/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-4358801-4536629?v=glance&s=music&n=507846)"!!!!  I went to at least six different places here in Olympia and NO ONE had it!!   I knew that I could get it on-line, but for some reason, I just didn't want to get it that way.  I wanted to hold it while in a store and buy it.  And I did!!  I'll be listening to it at work in the morning. ;D :-* ;D :-* ;D
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: George on October 06, 2004, 12:15:17 AM
Good night, All!
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 12:16:38 AM
Oh, and S. Woody, as long as we're nitpicking, have you ever finished Kritzer Time, yes or no?  If you did, you could have died with your secret.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 12:41:34 AM
As a matter of fact, no, I have not finished Kritzer Time.  I accidentally picked up the book and read a passage towards the end, which involved a major plot point, very spoiler-ish.

This wouldn't have been so bad, but I had been working on a story of my own, based on my own high school memories.  In my outlining of the story, a similar major plot point was to occur.

I've been avoiding Kritzer Time since then.  At first I told myself that I was avoiding your story because I didn't want to plagerize your work, but the fact is that from the beginning I found it uncomfortably close to my own life.  Worse, I realized that my own story was a cheat, dishonest.

So, I've set aside your novel for now, as well as my own story.  When I've matured a bit more, I'll return to them both.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 12:55:12 AM
Totally different subject:

BK, I know you love the musical L'il Abner.  Der Brucer and I were listening to the CD today while driving about the state, and it's growing on me.

(Meaning my appreciation of the score is growing.  Otherwise, that last sentence sounds fungal.)

Der B and I were both taken with how well the humor in the score holds up today.  "The Country's In the Very Best of Hands" and particularly "Oh, Happy Day" are chillingly close to current events.

So, BK, a question: If you were directing a revival of L'il Abner today, who would you want to cast in the various roles?
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 01:05:31 AM
I thought the Encores casting of Alice Ripley was perfect until I heard a CD of it - for whatever reason, she wasn't so hot sounding in the role, even though she looks just like Al Capp's drawing of Daisy.  My instinct is that I'd go with unknowns for Daisy and Abner.  There are any number of people who could play the Howard St. John role (David Ogden Stiers was very funny in the Encores version).  It would be fun at some point to really DO a revival - not change the book at all, just really find great people for it and do it - I think it would be a hit.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 01:10:41 AM
Oh, BK, with my own story I was also guilty of doing the reverse-people's-initials-for-names thing.  Since my initial outline for my story was written over five years ago, this isn't copying...but it sure comes across like it.

Like minds, in uncomfortable ways.

At least you got there first.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 01:13:40 AM
What about Marryin' Sam?  Is there anyone out there who can match Stubby Kaye, without copying Stubby Kaye?  A little star power might help, of course.  But stunt casting, like Lea DeLauria, doesn't feel right.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 01:15:52 AM
I'll be back tomorrow.  I've got to wussburger, and then do some research on Dalmatians, especially if we're going to have two in the house.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jrand74 on October 06, 2004, 02:19:37 AM
Hmmmmmmmmm.....I must go find the movie that MR BK is talking about in the notes.  "The Bolero" is one of my favorite pieces of music, and I have choreographed it a hundred different ways in my mind.

Hmmmmmm.....oh yes LiL ABNER would be a hit.  I don't know who I would cast.  Although, I think we have done this "for real" for "for horrible" here on HHW.  I like the idea of newcomers as Daisy and Abner.  Hmmmmm....Sam.....hmmmmmmmmm....well NOT Val Kilmer!

My question for ASK BK day.....we know that you have a celebrity landlord.  Do you know of any other celebrity connections to your new house?  Have any other celebs (besides your notable self of course) resided at said abode?
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jrand74 on October 06, 2004, 02:20:47 AM
DRGEORGE, I know just what you mean.  I do MOST of my buying online, but there are some things I want to go into a store and hold in my hand, pay for, and bring home.

It is really a strange feeling now, an almost foreign one for me.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: William E. Lurie on October 06, 2004, 06:04:05 AM
For Ask BK Day---
Do you ever buy a DVD when it comes out and then never seem to get a chance to watch it?  I try to get new releases of films I want to see while they are still available and I am thinking of them, but the number of new DVDs I buy is often out of proportion with the amount of time I have for DVD watching, and I would estimate that I have at least 100 titles that I want to watch but have not been able to squeeze in.  Does this happen to you too?
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Stuart on October 06, 2004, 06:27:00 AM
Thank you for your concern about upstate New York Hainsies, DR SWW.  It was very much apprectiated that you noted, like some other segments of society, we truly are everywhere!
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: elmore3003 on October 06, 2004, 06:27:48 AM
Good morning, all!  I too thought the debates came off as a draw.  I got the impression that Mr Kerry was hoping to bait Mr Cheney into flying iff the handle and showing his more unattractive side(s).  Alas, it didn't happen, but I did enjoy it immensely.  I see things got rather testier last night after I was unconscious - critics, feel free to drop in and state that's all the time with me - and I see that I was reprimanded by DRSWW for calling our dinner tonight an "East Coast" one, so I do apologize for that;  I wish other New Yorkers like DRJenny  were showing up as well, but I was incorrect in calling it an East Coast event.  

But, since SWW was being picky, especially about DRPogue's grammar and spelling, I have to correct an error: the word is spelled "plagiarize."  I admit my glass house is shattered from the rocks I've thrown.

DRSWW, I really wanted to like Encores! LI'L ABNER, but it was horribly cast and so a lot of numbers were transposed, which affects the original orchestration and Philip J Lang is not around to rescore, and I have no idea who performed that job.  Lea DeLaria was a butch Marryin' Sam, but I sure missed Stubby Kaye's tenor.  In terms of current casting, all the Broadway juveniles attend the gym regularly, so I don't think there would be too many problems finding an Abner.  Alice Ripley looked great as Daisy Mae, and I think Dear Friend BK might have liked her better if the production had had a better director.

So, BK, how do we achieve a letterboxed DVD arrival of the 1959 film of LI'L ABNER?
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: elmore3003 on October 06, 2004, 06:33:36 AM
Thank you for your concern about upstate New York Hainsies, DR SWW.  It was very much apprectiated that you noted, like some other segments of society, we truly are everywhere!

DRStuart, would that you were in our company tonight!  My apologies for excluding you.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: elmore3003 on October 06, 2004, 06:59:11 AM
Dear Friend BK, your criticism of the Lelouch film was so interesting that I just bought it on eBay.  I look forward to watching it.  

Now I'm off to deal wuth Eubie Blake and Victor Herbert.  
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: MBarnum on October 06, 2004, 07:17:17 AM
I too thought BK's description of Les Uns et les Autres sounded fascinating and I will be looking for it myself! That scene that you described, BK, gave me goose-pimples!



Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jennifer on October 06, 2004, 07:45:08 AM
Question for those who watched last week's Apprentice.  What did you think about Jen C's remarks?  And the fact that she got fired from her REAL job for her remarks.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 06, 2004, 07:45:13 AM
I thought the Encores casting of Alice Ripley was perfect until I heard a CD of it - for whatever reason, she wasn't so hot sounding in the role, even though she looks just like Al Capp's drawing of Daisy.  My instinct is that I'd go with unknowns for Daisy and Abner.  There are any number of people who could play the Howard St. John role (David Ogden Stiers was very funny in the Encores version).  It would be fun at some point to really DO a revival - not change the book at all, just really find great people for it and do it - I think it would be a hit.

The touble is, I would bet that a director of a revival of L'il Abner in the current political clime would give in to the temptation to monkey with the book and weigh it down with so many anti-Bush references that the show would sink like a rock.  Is there a director out there who has the rightness of touch and would trust the material to work for itself?
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Noel on October 06, 2004, 08:02:48 AM
The touble is, I would bet that a director of a revival of L'il Abner in the current political clime would give in to the temptation to monkey with the book and weigh it down with so many anti-Bush references that the show would sink like a rock.  Is there a director out there who has the rightness of touch and would trust the material to work for itself?

Maybe the guy who directed that What If revue on the coast would trust it.

Or maybe (God willing) we won't have W. Bush to kick around any more.

And the contemporary references seem to have done nothing to help The Frogs achieve much success, so perhaps there's a lesson in that.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 06, 2004, 08:14:42 AM
Question for those who watched last week's Apprentice.  What did you think about Jen C's remarks?  And the fact that she got fired from her REAL job for her remarks.

I'm betting that her performance/remarks crystallized, for her real boss, complaints that he'd received in the real work place about similar traits he had not seen and had not been able to give full credence to until now.

She seems to be a disturbed person, IMO.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 06, 2004, 08:27:28 AM
Re: Last night's debate -- It's amazing how differently people see the same thing.  I've heard a lot of criticism about Edwards' bulldog approach in not letting one issue go after another issue had been introduced.

I've heard criticism of his everpresent smile in face of criticism by the V.P.

What I've yet to hear is what I observed:  A recalcitrant, petulant Cheney, whose monotonic barrage of words seldom added up to anything more than party propaganda.

I heard someone call him the most powerful V.P. in U.S. history.  That may be very true.  He may, in fact, be propping up the puppet president who seems to have someone pulling his strings.

His dig at Edwards re: never having met him before last night is very telling about the V.P.  Although he wanted the world to believe it was Edwards' failing that they'd never met, given that the V.P. presides over the Senate, the fact is that the V.P. is seldom essential to any Senatorial goings-on.  IMO, the President of the Senate is the one who should go out of his way to meet all the Senators...they're the only ones actually getting the work done and don't have time to pay court.

Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 06, 2004, 08:31:53 AM
Maybe the guy who directed that What If revue on the coast would trust it.

D'oh!  I originally included a "present company excluded" phrase in there, but I rewrote the post and it got dropped.  I need an editor!

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Or maybe (God willing) we won't have W. Bush to kick around any more.

That's what I'm hoping for.  But it's possible that a director would be just as willing to target a democratic administration.

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And the contemporary references seem to have done nothing to help The Frogs achieve much success, so perhaps there's a lesson in that.

On one level, I didn't mind the obvious references in The Frogs because I knew that Lane was trying to emulate Aristophanes' similar use of such diatribes in the original play.  But they never really work, delivered as they are out front and heavy-handedly to the audience.  The lines tend to stop the show cold.  The same thing was accomplished much more adeptly in the finale, a simple musical plea to the audience to go out and effect political change.  It was a beautiful little moment that didn't hit the crowd on the head with message.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Matt H. on October 06, 2004, 08:32:38 AM
DR Elmore took the words right out of my mouth. The male ensembles of almost all Broadway shows you attend now are LOADED with well muscled hunks, many of whom could don Abner's patched overalls and fill them wonderfully. My first community theater show as an adult was LI'L ABNER, so it's always been close to my heart. And the movie is loads of fun. Sure wish Paramount would do the right thing, clean it up, and release it on DVD.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 08:34:23 AM

My question for ASK BK day.....we know that you have a celebrity landlord.  Do you know of any other celebrity connections to your new house?  Have any other celebs (besides your notable self of course) resided at said abode?

I don't know the history of the house at all - it would be fun to, although I also like mystery rather than history.  
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Matt H. on October 06, 2004, 08:35:35 AM
And here-here to bk for emphasizing his desires about nitpicking spelling and grammar here. We come here for fun. Sometimes, when I'm trying to make an important point, I will proofread very carefully, but often I type away and then hit post pretty hurriedly. I'm a very sloppy typist and not always the best speller either, and the quickest way to make this site NOT a fun place to be would be if one had to worry about someone correcting spelling and syntax.

Thanks for reiterating that, bk.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 08:35:58 AM
For Ask BK Day---
Do you ever buy a DVD when it comes out and then never seem to get a chance to watch it?  I try to get new releases of films I want to see while they are still available and I am thinking of them, but the number of new DVDs I buy is often out of proportion with the amount of time I have for DVD watching, and I would estimate that I have at least 100 titles that I want to watch but have not been able to squeeze in.  Does this happen to you too?

Yes, I'm afraid I've got DVDs that are three and four years old that I haven't gotten around to yet.  I do try to watch them as I get them, and I do try to occasionally go back and catch up, but unless I had a six month vacation I don't know that that will be happening.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Matt H. on October 06, 2004, 08:39:38 AM
On my DVD agenda today: ALADDIN. I canot wait to hear the revamped surround sound through my system. BEAUTY AND THE BEAST and THE LION KING both blew me away. I'm expecting a similar reaction to ALADDIN.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: JoseSPiano on October 06, 2004, 08:41:09 AM
Good Morning!

I let myself sleep a full eight hours!  And I slept pretty soundly too.  And I feel so much better this morning than I did yesterday.  Shortly, I shall head back to my "practice room" in the living room, and start going through The Producers keyboard book again.  -Thankfully, the music did not run through my head keeping me up last night.  I'm feeling better about the keyboard book too.  Not so daunting again.

Well... I hope the New York Hainsies/Kimlets gathering at Barrymore's goes swimmingly this afternoon.  And let's hope someone has a camera!

Laters..
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 08:42:38 AM
Alice Ripley looked great as Daisy Mae, and I think Dear Friend BK might have liked her better if the production had had a better director.

So, BK, how do we achieve a letterboxed DVD arrival of the 1959 film of LI'L ABNER?

Alice and Emily were over one night having dinner when we were doing Duets II, and she'd already played or was just about to play Daisy Mae.  I showed her my original panel of Abner art which features a huge closeup of Daisy Mae - she looked exactly like her.  I have no doubt a better director would have helped things.

I am hoping we see a lovely DVD of Abner next year - something crazy is going on with Li'l Abner - when I used to do my periodic searches on eBay, you could get anything you wanted no matter whether it was bargain-basement or expensive - no one was ever bidding.  In the last three months I have actually lost a few items, including a full-color show poster that I really wanted (that dear reader RLP pointed out to me).  It had a starting bid of 500 bucks, which I though outrageous.  It had no bids until the final day, and I decided I would go for it despite its outrageous cost.  Someone opened the bidding at five hundred, and I simply put in a top of a bit over six, figuring I'd get it for a little over five.  The poster, in the last seconds of the auction, went for twelve hundred bucks.  VHS copies of the film, which are easy and effortless to find and which shouldn't cost more than a couple of bucks are suddenly going for twenty-five and above, whereas a few months ago they were either not selling or going cheap.  
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 08:43:59 AM
Dear Friend BK, your criticism of the Lelouch film was so interesting that I just bought it on eBay.  I look forward to watching it.  

Now I'm off to deal wuth Eubie Blake and Victor Herbert.  

I hope you got the Image DVD.  There seem to be quite a few available, including some bootleggy sounding ones.  The Image, while not perfect, is the three-hour version and is widescreen (imperative - it's a scope film).
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 06, 2004, 08:45:39 AM
His dig at Edwards re: never having met him before last night is very telling about the V.P.  Although he wanted the world to believe it was Edwards' failing that they'd never met, given that the V.P. presides over the Senate, the fact is that the V.P. is seldom essential to any Senatorial goings-on.  IMO, the President of the Senate is the one who should go out of his way to meet all the Senators...they're the only ones actually getting the work done and don't have time to pay court.

Accoring to an ABC News story   (http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20041006_463.html), Cheney met Edwards at least three times.

I used to think that Cheney reminded me of Old Man Potter from It's A Wonderful Life, but anymore I find the veep so chilling in character that Mr. Potter is a cuddly teddy bear in comparison.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 08:46:30 AM
The touble is, I would bet that a director of a revival of L'il Abner in the current political clime would give in to the temptation to monkey with the book and weigh it down with so many anti-Bush references that the show would sink like a rock.  Is there a director out there who has the rightness of touch and would trust the material to work for itself?

Well, I've discussed this with a director/producer friend out here in LA, who, several years ago, tried to get the rights.  But they wouldn't give them to him because he wanted to rewrite the book.  The book, to my mind, is wonderful - the show is a period piece and I would keep it that way, and the fact that Mr. Mercer's then topical lyrics are so applicable to today's government would astonish people.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 09:00:05 AM
Re last night's posts: I've never before been referred to as a "morass of symptoms"...  I'm actually one of the healthiest people I know and I rarely think about or discuss the state of said health.
On a different note (b-flat) - I too want to see LES UNS ET LES AUTRES after reading the Notes. BTW - I think A MAN AND A WOMAN is the most gloriously romantic film ever. There was a time in my life when hardly a day went by that I didn't put on the soundtrack LP.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 06, 2004, 09:14:16 AM
Re: the grammar thing.  Woody, I could slow down and re-read, as you suggested last night, but then posting here would become like work.  

My business is crafting words.  I spend all day meticulously bumping one word against another and figuring out the complexities of phrase and sentence construction.  When I post here or elsewhere, then I'm spewing this stuff out in a stream-of-conscious style and I'm not stopping for the finer points of grammar, spelling, or even typos.  Occasionally, I re-read stuff and catch a mistake or I'll go back to a post and notice an error and will modify the post.  But as long as the post is vaguely coherent (no strange nonsensical substitions like "hint" for "heat"...it's stuff like that makes me think I'm dsylexic) and gets the idea across, I'm not going to sweat the small stuff and will hope twenty years of developing a writing style will pretty much take care of itself and express my thoughts adequately.

I could sit here for hours and agonize over the 'mot juste' and the preciseness of my phrasing, but I have a life...and, nice though it may be, I can't dawdle here all day.

BK, I agree absolutely about Li'l Abner's book.  It has never been more timely.  It doesn't even need to be played as a period piece, really.  The satire, as you say, is still fresh and applicable to today.  I think it's ripe for a revival.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on October 06, 2004, 09:19:01 AM
BK-

Very interesting...

In the credits to ALEXANDER'S RAGTIME BAND it says"Lyrics and Words by Irving Berlin" Isn't that a turnaround?
However,come to think of it when Hollywood did the story(or did in the story) of Rodgers and Hart the movie was called WORDS AND MUSIC.

What say you on this subject.???
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jennifer on October 06, 2004, 09:19:46 AM
Re: Jen C getting fired twice on The Apprentice.

When the show aired I wasn't sure how I felt.  Jen C didn't really come across that well, always yapping.

But since then I have seen her do two interviews.  And now I truly believe that most of the negative press towards her is because of the show's editing.

I've always known that they can edit things to make them look a certain way.   All they need to do is take comments out of context or put two different clips back to back to make them look like they are happening together.

Anyhow after hearing Jen C talk I really feel bad for her.  She seems really nice, and she was apologetic.

She also said that there was much the editing didn't show, including a follow-up discussion between her and little Stacie where all was forgiven.

As well, half of Jen C's family is Jewish.  And she was shocked to see herself portrayed as a bigot.

After hearing her side I think the situation resulted from her using a poor choice of words, combined with them editing her as the bad person.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jennifer on October 06, 2004, 09:26:40 AM
Re: complaining here about spelling/grammar/typos.

I think there is a difference between mentioning a typo vs being mean when it's obvious the person knows how to spell the word.

Is it just me, but I would actually like to know if I spell a word incorrectly.  But I also agree that we shouldn't hurt anyone's feelings.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 09:35:45 AM
BK-

Very interesting...

In the credits to ALEXANDER'S RAGTIME BAND it says"Lyrics and Words by Irving Berlin" Isn't that a turnaround?
However,come to think of it when Hollywood did the story(or did in the story) of Rodgers and Hart the movie was called WORDS AND MUSIC.

What say you on this subject.???


Lyrics and Words?  That can't be right can it?  I prefer Music and Lyrics to Words and Music.  Don't know why, really.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jrand74 on October 06, 2004, 09:40:03 AM
Darn!  Well....the internet could help you find out about former occupants...or a enquiry to your realtor.  WE MUST KNOW!!!

I too bought the film talked about in the notes....found it on Ebay for 21.95 including priority shipping.  Restored, 3 hour version, widescreen, stereo....  Hmmmmmmmm.....can hardly wait!

Lelouch should send you a check MR BK!
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: MBarnum on October 06, 2004, 09:43:21 AM
I want to know who BK's celeb landlord is....so that is my BK question of the day!

I don't believe any celebrities ever lived in my house...maybe poor relations of the people who owned the mansion that sits directly across the street from me!
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Charles Pogue on October 06, 2004, 09:49:03 AM
It's not even about hurting one's feelings.  I'm tough. I can take it.  People should be allowed to speak their minds and not mince words.  If someone is so delicate they can't take it or wants to construe it as a personal attack, well, that's their issue.

The spelling imbroglio last night was a particular strategy in the spirited debate.  I was having a general discussion of politics and expressing some views that probably rankled some.  In responding to the issues of my post, it was also decided to nitpick my grammatical sloppiness. And that's okay too! And a perfectly legitimate form of response.  I responded to that and defended my position on that issue.  

My feelings weren't hurt, I hold no grudges, and I didn't lose any sleep over any of this.  All rather small potatoes.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jay on October 06, 2004, 10:06:15 AM
My question for Ask BK Day:  When can we expect the next edition of Worst Cast Scenario here at HHW.com?
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 06, 2004, 10:07:12 AM

But since then I have seen her do two interviews.  And now I truly believe that most of the negative press towards her is because of the show's editing.

I've always known that they can edit things to make them look a certain way.   All they need to do is take comments out of context or put two different clips back to back to make them look like they are happening together.

Yes, Jerri Manthey, one of "Survivor's" notorious b-i-zitches, blamed editing for making her look bad.  Truth is, she has been on several TV shows since and has never looked one bit better, or more tolerable, than she was on "Survivor."

I think the truth is there for all to see.  They may show only the bad stuff, true...but it's the bad stuff everyone else reacted to and despised her for.  We just got the concentrated version of it.

And I know from "nice"...we have someone who works here who is the image of super-wonderful butter-would-melt smarminess...but in truth, she's a scheming connniver and nobody who has ever had to rely on her trusts her.  Yet she still manages to wrap others around her little finger because they don't have to work with her.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 06, 2004, 10:09:24 AM
Re: Nitpicking.  Not one person who has corrected another on this here board has gone without making a mistake or two of his own.

Not one.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jrand74 on October 06, 2004, 10:15:09 AM
Puts down his stone.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: DearReaderLaura on October 06, 2004, 10:24:07 AM
I received a rather odd letter in the mail yesterday. The local funeral parlor is offering me a 5% discount if I have a funeral by the end of the month.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 10:24:11 AM
I want to know who BK's celeb landlord is....so that is my BK question of the day!

A young actor named James Marsden who I don't really know.  I think he's in the X Men films.  Haven't met him yet but will in the next couple of weeks.  He and his wife and child moved to a bigger home.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 10:24:42 AM
My question for Ask BK Day:  When can we expect the next edition of Worst Cast Scenario here at HHW.com?

Soon.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: MBarnum on October 06, 2004, 10:32:35 AM
I am so bored with being at work today that I can hardly stand it!
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Post by: Emily on October 06, 2004, 10:49:40 AM
If I have to write one more page of a paper on absolutely mind-boggling boring text... I will... I will...

I'll cry... :(
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Post by: elmore3003 on October 06, 2004, 10:53:09 AM
The touble is, I would bet that a director of a revival of L'il Abner in the current political clime would give in to the temptation to monkey with the book and weigh it down with so many anti-Bush references that the show would sink like a rock.  Is there a director out there who has the rightness of touch and would trust the material to work for itself?

Yes, DR DTM, there is and I'm urging Mr Kimmel to pursue all directing venues.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: MBarnum on October 06, 2004, 10:57:25 AM
You know, the first play I was ever in (in High School) was LIL ABNER...perhaps I could reprise my role of Dogpatch man #14.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: elmore3003 on October 06, 2004, 11:00:48 AM
I received a rather odd letter in the mail yesterday. The local funeral parlor is offering me a 5% discount if I have a funeral by the end of the month.

I have a list for you.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: elmore3003 on October 06, 2004, 11:01:43 AM
A young actor named James Marsden who I don't really know.  I think he's in the X Men films.  Haven't met him yet but will in the next couple of weeks.  He and his wife and child moved to a bigger home.

He also played one of the boyfriends of the oldest daughter in THE NANNY.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jennifer on October 06, 2004, 11:55:08 AM
Re: James Marsden

He was also on Ally McBeal.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 11:55:46 AM
Never watched The Nanny.  I've seen the FILM The Nanny with Miss Bette Davis and Miss Pamela Franklin.  

Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jennifer on October 06, 2004, 11:57:31 AM
DR Emily, did your friend find her dog?
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 12:11:01 PM
Mr. Marsden was also in THE NOTEBOOK. He played the very understanding fiance. He was quite nice looking in a kind of all-American way, as I recall (not my type - but hey).
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 12:11:27 PM
And one for Buddy Mahler!
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 12:13:39 PM
(I have no idea why I said that. But if my last name were Mahler and I had a son - or a dog - "Buddy" would be the perfect name for him. "Mimsy" for a daughter or a cat. Not that I'd get a cat. On the other hand, if I were Anna Mahler I wouldn't be who I am, and therefore might WANT a cat.)
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jennifer on October 06, 2004, 12:19:23 PM
Does anyone know how long to cook salmon steaks for?  In the oven?  Outside on the BBQ/grill?  If I did it outside would I have to put it in foil, or is the steak thick enough that I could do it directly on the grill?

I'm thinking I will probably do it inside, because I want to do ribs on the BBQ tomorrow, and I'm not sure how much gas is left in my BBQ.

Or I could poach them in the microwave.

I'm just not sure how long I'd put them for in the oven.  Usually I cook fish for like 20 minutes in the oven at around 375.  And outside i do it for 15.

I'm trying to find cooking times on allrecipes right now.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 12:19:37 PM
I'm off to the bank to yell at them because a deposit I made two days ago has "disappeared." They know I made the deposit - they have all the records - but it is physically MISSING. Scary thought, eh? One would think that they'd simply say, "Gee. Our mistake. We'll put the money in your account because the reason you use a bank instead of your mattress is that it's SAFE."
But guess what? They didn't say that. They said (on the phone) that they'd have to "research" the matter, which may take around 5 days. 5 days of the money missing in action. Well - that ain't gonna happen. Because if they give me any grief about this, I'm going to walk over to as many customers as I can and tell them not to think that just because they deposit their money and get a receipt, it actually will show up in their account.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Emily on October 06, 2004, 12:22:54 PM
DR Emily, did your friend find her dog?

Yep!  The dog was found outside the St. Laurent city hall by some staff members there.  They phoned the number on her tag and the rest is history...

The dog may have been stupid to jump out of the car like she did, but at least she was smart enough to gravitate towards the powerful! :P
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Emily on October 06, 2004, 12:27:07 PM
Jennifer, the Canadian Fisheries Dept. (yes our tax money at work) recommends as a general rule that you cook fish for 10 minutes per side per inch of thickness.

So your 20 minute fish must be an inch thick! :)

It shouldn't make any difference from the over to the grill because fish in the oven is still cooked on quite a high heat - similar to what it would receive from being grilled.

Always remember to remove fish from the cooking process when it still looks a little underdone...
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jennifer on October 06, 2004, 12:34:13 PM
Thanks DR Emily.  But my BBQ is at 600F and my oven is only 375F!

I can't imagine the steaks are an inch thick. Probably less.

And wow, that is amazing that the dog was found.  Although that is really good that it had the phone number on the tag.  I forgot about that option.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jennifer on October 06, 2004, 12:40:20 PM
I meant to comment on last week's LOST.

I didn't really care for the first episode.  It seemed like some sort of creature was chasing them.  And that sort of thing isn't really my cup of tea.

But they really turned things around in episode 2.

I loved how Kate turned out to be the one that had been in handcuffs.  That was great especially since she was so sweet and helpful in Ep 1.

And then finding out that it wasn't some creature, but a polar bear (although how could it run that fast??) worked better for me.

I'm curious to see episode 3 tonight.

Oh and I cannot wait to get my tape of tonight's Taye Diggs' show, KENNY HILL.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Stuart on October 06, 2004, 12:50:39 PM
I don't think I have mentioned it, but "Broadway:The Golden Age" is in town this week.  Given the number of shows I ahve had at school in the past 10 days, it's the last thing i want to do, but tonight is the only night the Dear Partner (John) and I can go together.

Despite my fatigue, I am quite excited.

Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jrand74 on October 06, 2004, 12:51:08 PM
I hope Val Kilmer remembered he doesn't have to get down to the Kodak for a matinee of The Ten Commandments today.

Wonder how many oblivious people with tickets will show up?
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: elmore3003 on October 06, 2004, 01:01:01 PM
I don't think I have mentioned it, but "Broadway:The Golden Age" is in town this week.  Given the number of shows I ahve had at school in the past 10 days, it's the last thing i want to do, but tonight is the only night the Dear Partner (John) and I can go together.

DRStuart, I missed it because it was playing while I was at Goodspeed, but I hear it's wonderful, and I hope there's a DVD release.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: elmore3003 on October 06, 2004, 01:01:40 PM
Wonder how many oblivious people with tickets will show up?

Both of them.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Stuart on October 06, 2004, 01:05:49 PM
Both of them.

I assume you mean that's the number of people with tickets to The XCs, not the number of oblivious people in the world.  I would peg that number as much , much higher.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Matt H. on October 06, 2004, 01:42:32 PM
ALADDIN's new soundtrack wasn't as revelatory as the reworked one for THE LION KING, and I didn't take the time to switch over to Dolby DIgital 5.1 to make comparisons. The sound was very, very powerful with lots of deep bass rattling the subwoofer.

As far as image, well, the screen is awash in deeply saturated primary colors, and there's nary a blemish or speck to be seen. Absolutely perfect picture. Didn't take the time to watch any of the special features on the second disc. Those will have to wait for another day. On to the next disc, whatever that may be.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Noel on October 06, 2004, 01:42:37 PM
Where is everybody?

Oh, Barrymores....

Then I must be getting there now.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 06, 2004, 01:43:37 PM
A young actor named James Marsden who I don't really know.  I think he's in the X Men films.  Haven't met him yet but will in the next couple of weeks.  He and his wife and child moved to a bigger home.

Holy Moley!  James Marsden is your landlord?  That's AWESOME!

Marsden has portrayed "Cyclops" in the X-Men films.  He was also featured on the final season of Ally McBeal...and BK -- he has a MAGNIFICENT SINGING VOICE.  He is a wonder.

The problem is, he's too darned good looking for his own good!

Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Matt H. on October 06, 2004, 01:47:07 PM
WEL mentioned that the THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT trilogy comes out on DVD next week and so does DAMN YANKEES and the new special edition of SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS. Also, the PBS miniseries - BROADWAY - THE MUSICAL THEATER narrated by Julie Andrews also comes out on DVD next week (I assume it's premiering on PBS next week or the week after, too.) I went ahead and preordered all of these DVDs.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jrand74 on October 06, 2004, 01:47:25 PM
LOL...both of them...LOL

Well....I have found a fact and I want to share it with the DR's here at HHW.  Of course, I may be the last one to know but:

John Megna - who played Dill in "To Kill a Mockingbird" was the brother of Connie (Cricket Blake) Stevens.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Matt H. on October 06, 2004, 01:48:20 PM
He (James Marsden) was very effective in X-MEN 2. I couldn't stand ALLY McBEAL so I never saw him on the show.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 06, 2004, 01:49:48 PM
LOL...both of them...LOL

Well....I have found a fact and I want to share it with the DR's here at HHW.  Of course, I may be the last one to know but:

John Megna - who played Dill in "To Kill a Mockingbird" was the brother of Connie (Cricket Blake) Stevens.

Yep.  I learned that back in 1963 when I was reading everything I could about the movie.

Sadly, he died of AIDS complications in 1995.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Matt H. on October 06, 2004, 01:51:02 PM
Yes, I'm very much looking forward to LOST tonight. The second half of the pilot provided so many surprises and set-ups for future episodes, and I can't wait to see where the writers take all these stories.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: William E. Lurie on October 06, 2004, 01:53:24 PM
The DVD Release of "Broadway: The Golden Age" is set for November 9.  It will contain 90 minutes of extras including a 35 minute preview of "Broadway: The Next Generation" (I think that's the name) which will now be a second film released next year.  Originally it was to a part of the first film; then it was to be included on the DVD but now it will be a separate film.

If you still want to see it in a theatre, it is being shown later this month in NY as part of the Tribecca Theatre Festival.  Check out the ad in today's Times.

***

Regarding cooking Salmon... often a salmon filet is very thick on one end and much thinner on the other.  For best results, cut off the thin end.  Start broiling the thick ends for about 8 to 10 minutes each side; add the thin ends when you turn the thick ones and turn the thin ends about halfway through.  If you cook the whole filet at once, either the thick end will be done perfect and the thin end will be overdone or else the thick end won't be quite done while the thin end is perfect.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: JoseSPiano on October 06, 2004, 02:28:24 PM
Good Evening!

-Practice does seem to be making perfect.. Whew!  -There are still a few licks that are giving me trouble, but I have all day tomorrow and Friday to work them out.  -Or at least find a way to fake them.  ;)  -But I know I can't fake them, so...  Practice, practice, practice.   When I audit the show tonight, I'll see what the keyboard player does in those sections.  There is one section that just seem physically impossible to play.  At least to me.  At this time.  We shall see.

RE: James Marsden.  Hmmm... Any chance you get a pic of him in the pool?  ;)

RE: Salmon - As DR WEL mentioned the tapered nature of the filets can pose a problem.  However, I've found the easy fix is just to fold the "skinny" end under itself.  Secure with a toothpick if necessary.  Otherwise, if you're just baking or broiling it, it should stay in place on its own.

Well, that's all I can think of to post right now... I'm gonna get a few more minutes of practice in here now, and then head to the theatre.  -And I even dug out one of my winter jackets - it's already down in the 50s right now, and by the time I get out of the show, it's supposed to be down in the 40s.  Brrr... *That Fahrenheit, of course. ;)

Laters...
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 03:16:30 PM
I've triumphed over the Forces of Commerce. The money is now in the account. Some of the credit must go to bk (not ALL- but some) - whom I channeled when I said things like the following:
PANNI: I'd like to speak to X. [the person with whom I was dealing on the phone]
BANK OFFICER: Do you have an appointment?
PANNI: No. [I had called X to tell her I was coming in, but she did not return my call. Skammen on her.]
BANK OFFICER: She's not here right now.
PANNI (channeling bk): Well, I AM, so I'll have to speak to someone higher up.
                                 OR
BANK OFFICER: I just spoke to X [who seemed magically to be there after all] and she explained the situation. [The Bank Officer then went on to explain, as X had on the phone, why they would have to "research" the matter for five days.]
PANNI(channeling bk): That is NOT ACCEPTABLE!
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jrand74 on October 06, 2004, 04:01:18 PM
Very good DRPANNI!  Congratulations on your victory.  I would say that is one for the little people.

Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Jennifer on October 06, 2004, 04:04:59 PM
DR Panni please continue the rest of the story.

I am curious about something you said.  You mentioned that the bank "knew" that you had deposited the check?  Had you gone to a teller?  My bank is rarely open, so I always use the bank machine.  

I really want to know how you convinced them.

And speaking of prevailing, I got my check for $25 from canada post today (only a week after I was told they would send it for overcharging me!).
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Danise on October 06, 2004, 05:17:23 PM
 

 
Evening all!

I’m sorry if I missed the post about Tom seeing Woman in White.  Gasp!  Horrors!  Tom didn’t like it?  He left at intermission?  Say it isn’t so!  Now I’m even more curious about it—I would like to know his reason(s).  The music?  The plot?  

What a shame to travel so far to only be disappointed.  I know he wanted to see Mr. C.

Well, to be very honest, I saw the pictures on Broadway World of Mr. C and I didn’t really like what I saw.  I wanted to be positive about it but now I’m kinda glad I didn’t/couldn’t go to London to see the play.

I spoke very briefly with DR Jane today.  About a whole minute, I think.  I don’t know her exact schedule so I didn’t know she was going to see “Wicked” today.  I caught her about 10 minutes before the show started.  

I do so hope that she enjoyed it as much I did.  I also hope that everyone going to Joe Allen’s have a wonderful time.  I am so looking forward to pictures/posts telling the tale of the nights festivities.

I’m enjoying “Lost” as well.  I’m a little mad because I missed the first episode and they were supposed to repeat it on Saturday night.  Well, they had a darn FOOTBALL game instead.  

I also have tons of DVDs that I have bought (are still in the wrapper) and have yet to watch any of them.  In fact, most the DVD’s I’ve told you I’ve bought over the past few months are still sitting in their wrappers.  I just don’t have the time to watch them.

Good for you, Panni.  Don't let that bank get the better of you.  


Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: George on October 06, 2004, 05:34:30 PM
Danise, it must a very common habit.  I also buy DVDs and never watch them.  AND I have this annoying (to me) habit of taping things from TV and then I never watch them.  I have about 20 video tapes that have various shows on each just waiting for me to sit down and view them.  Of course, I always say, "I have nothing to do this weekend so I'll watch them then."  And when the weekend comes around (just about EVERY weekend), I have something else to do and the pile of tapes just keeps increasing.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: George on October 06, 2004, 05:34:43 PM
What's a TV addict to do??
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: George on October 06, 2004, 05:35:22 PM
And one for Rodney...why not?
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: George on October 06, 2004, 05:36:03 PM
What about Marryin' Sam?  Is there anyone out there who can match Stubby Kaye, without copying Stubby Kaye?  A little star power might help, of course.  But stunt casting, like Lea DeLauria, doesn't feel right.

What about going in a totally different direction?  How about David Hyde Pierce?? ::)
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: George on October 06, 2004, 05:36:36 PM
Or not. ;)
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: elmore3003 on October 06, 2004, 06:49:56 PM
Well, I'm finally in from a whirlwind afternoon and evening, and the New York City Hainsies dinner was a fabulous event!  Kudos to DRBen for organizing it.  I met DRs Noel and Jane for the first time and I like them both immensely.  I didn't think DRNoel looked like his avatar; he's much handsomer in person, while with me, what you see is what you get!  

I won't go into dinner details since the other DRs have yet to check in,  but DRPennyO is becoming one of my favorite playmates in NYC, and after dinner, she and I walked DRJane back to her hotel suite where I broke the toilet and the handyman had to come up and fix it.   We almost got TKTS tickets for THE PRODUCERS but they only had seats in the top balcony, so we went back to the hotel and visited for about two more hours.  All in all, a wonderful visit, except for the toilet incident.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: elmore3003 on October 06, 2004, 06:50:56 PM
What about going in a totally different direction?  How about David Hyde Pierce?? ::)

DRGeorge, have you ever seen Al Capp's drawing of Marryin' Sam?  
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 07:05:05 PM
What is with this ghost town here at haineshisway.com this week?  Let's get some postin' goin' on, shall we?  A frenzy or two.  Or three.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 07:35:08 PM
Jennifer - I deposited with a teller in the bank. I had a receipt, I had witnesses. They had nerve in even trying to suggest that they delay putting the money in the account. Their losing it is not my problem.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: elmore3003 on October 06, 2004, 07:42:12 PM
Jennifer - I deposited with a teller in the bank. I had a receipt, I had witnesses. They had nerve in even trying to suggest that they delay putting the money in the account. Their losing it is not my problem.

Bravo, DRPanni!!!!
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 06, 2004, 07:45:00 PM
Ya know, my 13 year old nephew would probably pee himself if he knew that BK's landlord was James Marsden as he's an X-Men fanatic of both the comics and the movies and can instantly rattle off obscure facts about the casts of the X movies.  And that's nothing compared to his knowledge of those involved with the Spider-Man films.  He knows more about Rosemary Harris's film appearances than I do.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 06, 2004, 08:03:09 PM
Jennifer - I deposited with a teller in the bank. I had a receipt, I had witnesses. They had nerve in even trying to suggest that they delay putting the money in the account. Their losing it is not my problem.

Good for you, DR Panni!!!
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 06, 2004, 08:08:58 PM
This here site is strangely slow for this time of day.  By that I mean that the pages are slow to load.  Is the Asian Pinging Hacker back?
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 06, 2004, 08:09:59 PM
Just curious, but how many posts-in-a-row constitute a frenzy?
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Matt H. on October 06, 2004, 08:12:34 PM
LOST continued with an excellent episode tonight. We continue to get backstory on various survivors that in shown in counterpoint with continuing developments on the island where they're trapped. A most intriguing series.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Noel on October 06, 2004, 08:13:52 PM
Well, that was a very enjoyable little dinner - good company - and I'm sorry I had to skedaddle after a scant 90 minutes.  That Jane is YOUNG...  I don't believe she could have known BK in high school.  Although she could have read Kritzer Time very carefully.

I'd met Penny before, but she didn't remember.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Matt H. on October 06, 2004, 08:16:33 PM
I have selected the next DVD to be watched, but it may not happen until this weekend since I've promised a friend I'd go with him to a car place and go shopping for the hours while the service department works on his car tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 08:20:13 PM
I'd met Penny before, but she didn't remember.

Well, yes, but it was at the bachanalian rites at bk's Christmas partay. Who remembers anything from that drunken night of orgiastic bliss? ;)
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 06, 2004, 08:20:41 PM
Well, that was a very enjoyable little dinner - good company - and I'm sorry I had to skedaddle after a scant 90 minutes.  That Jane is YOUNG...  I don't believe she could have known BK in high school.  Although she could have read Kritzer Time very carefully.

I'd met Penny before, but she didn't remember.

Maybe she was just pulling your Cheney!

Ha!  Ha!  Ha!  Hee!  Hee!  Oh, sometimes I crack myself up!
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 08:25:50 PM
So no one is going to be crass enough to ask how the DR elmore broke the toilet....?
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 06, 2004, 08:32:44 PM
DR Elmore's gone.  I guess we are going to have to wait to get the dirt (so to speak) on this one.

Maybe DR Jane took pics!
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 08:36:11 PM
Overheard on the street: "...So I just threw on some clothes and rushed out. I mean I wasn't ready dressing-wise."
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 08:39:57 PM
I do indeed hope we have photographs that people will share with us.  I have finished Faherenheit 9/11 and shall now watch The Fearless Vampire Killers or It's Alive.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 06, 2004, 08:40:30 PM
Seriously, is anyone else having trouble with this here site tonight?  It's behavin' badly and it's slow.

Panni, complain to somebody!
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: elmore3003 on October 06, 2004, 08:40:46 PM
So no one is going to be crass enough to ask how the DR elmore broke the toilet....?
Perhaps DRs Jane or PennyO might tell you, but I'm not.
Title: Re:EFFERVESCENT AND EBULLIENT
Post by: MBarnum on October 06, 2004, 08:56:37 PM
Perhaps DRs Jane or PennyO might tell you, but I'm not.

After all you do have your pride! LOL!
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Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 08:56:49 PM
Not slow at all from these here parts.
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Post by: Dan (the Man) on October 06, 2004, 09:01:14 PM
I need to go kick my cable modem.
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Post by: Jay on October 06, 2004, 09:02:06 PM
I am back from a committee meeting at my synagogue.  It lasted less than an hour, which must be some kind of world record.

Isn't that exciting?  Can you plotz?
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 09:03:50 PM
Thank you for your concern about upstate New York Hainsies, DR SWW.  It was very much apprectiated that you noted, like some other segments of society, we truly are everywhere!
Hey, my mother was from Syracuse.  Some parts of some states, to refer in a way to the late Mr. Dangerfield, get no respect.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on October 06, 2004, 09:04:55 PM
Good Evening!

Back from the show.  It's going to be very interesting playing the show on Saturday.  The notes won't be an issue, but hearing the notes will be.  The Landmark - formerly known as The Mosque - has to be one of the most acoustically unfriendly places ever built.  It seems like a place that should be nice and "live", but it's surprisingly muffled and dull.  Unfortunately, it's really "dull" in the orchestra pit.  I was sitting next to between the keyboard and the harpist, and it was quite "interesting" trying to hear anything.  And forget about trying to hear the concertmistress, or anyone else on the other side of the pit.

I'll have to fuss with the volumes levels on the monitors throughout the show which I'm not really looking forward to.  At this point, I'm even thinking of sitting in again tomorrow just to take more notes on when I'll have make those adjustments.  The keyboard player/assistant conductor was "apologizing" for the poor sound, but what can you do?

Oh, and, of course, the keyboard is right under the front still stage speakers, so I get lots of vocals.  I just need to keep reminding myself to follow the "stick" and not the stage.
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Post by: Jay on October 06, 2004, 09:08:00 PM
I'd met Penny before, but she didn't remember.

Cellophane, Mr. Cellophane
Shoulda been my name, Mr. Cellophane...

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Post by: JoseSPiano on October 06, 2004, 09:13:07 PM
Hmmm... That was strange... I hit "Post", and then a blank screen came up... Then I tried to navigate back to the posts page, and another blank page came back up.  And this "page" took a while to come up too - at least on my computer.  ???
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 09:19:48 PM
Der Brucer and I have had quite a day.

It started with a phone call.  It seems that the owners of the little girl Dal pup are trying to reorganize their lives to accomodate the lass.  They're installing a fenced-in area, where the little pup can spend her days unattended.

Wrong idea.  Dals need people, and forcing them to spend their lives in cages, or in pens, is cruelty.  Yes, they need exercise, but they are very much people dogs.  These owners have no idea how bad they are for the dog.

This was followed by a trip around town, with Fletcher, to see various people.  First, we took him to see the people who run the local Wash-N-Wag, who also handle dog grooming.  The women there thought Fletcher was a doll, and they also sold der Brucer the right equipment for trimming doggy toenails.

Next was a visit to the woman who runs the local Dal Rescue operation.  She was thrilled to see Fletcher again, and gave us some extra advice about his medical needs.

Then we headed downtown.  We wanted to see another Dal lover, who owns a pet supply shop, but she wasn't at her store.  Instead, we took Fletcher for a walk around town.  There's a group of Greyhound owners holding a convention this weekend, with about 3000 dogs (and their people) expected to show.  We met a few of both breeds, and Fletcher was very friendly with everyone he met.  

We then headed over to Cafe Zeus, where I'd promosed Chef Charles the loan of a book on railroad cooking and the DVD of Strangers on a Train.  Charles wasn't in, but his mate John met Fletcher, and they got along well.

I wanted to drop by the local bookstore, while der B. wanted to check out Aqua, the restaurant that held the Dog Rescue event a couple of weekends ago.  There wasn't anything interesting at either spot, so instead we headed over to the Blue Moon, for a drink on their front patio.  Fletcher was an absolute charmer with everyone he met.  He is definately a people dog.

Upon returning home, we've been contacted by some of the dog rescue people.  They're needing help placing a couple of dogs short term.  It looks like we'll soon be having houseguests.
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Post by: Sandra on October 06, 2004, 09:24:23 PM
Did I ever tell you about the time my mom and I met Rodney Dangerfield in Las Vegas? He was gambling at a slot machine while we were standing in line for Forever Plaid.
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Post by: JoseSPiano on October 06, 2004, 09:24:25 PM
Glad to hear the the NYC gathering went well.  And DR Jane got a suite at the Wellington?  Nice.

Well... I'm a bit brain dead right now.  And I think I'm gonna go ahead and get ready for bed.  Technically, I'm "off" tomorrow, but tomorrow I have to start getting things ready for my upcoming trip to Houston.  Laundry, sorting, packing, etc.  And more practicing, of course.  -I need to get A Chorus Line back in my fingers now that I've gotten past the grunt work stage with The Producers.

Well... I can really tell that I'm teetering on the verge of comprehension... I think...  :P

Goodnight.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 09:27:37 PM
Re: L'il Abner
...The book, to my mind, is wonderful - the show is a period piece and I would keep it that way, and the fact that Mr. Mercer's then topical lyrics are so applicable to today's government would astonish people.
My point exactly, and hear hear!
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Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 09:28:25 PM
Dan TM - I complained. I'm sure everything is fine for you now, right?
(Everything is normal here, BTW.)
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Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 09:30:22 PM
Oy, have you got the WRONG vampire!
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 09:36:39 PM
I received a rather odd letter in the mail yesterday. The local funeral parlor is offering me a 5% discount if I have a funeral by the end of the month.
Are they specifying WHOSE funeral you have to hold?
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 09:39:27 PM
Does anyone know how long to cook salmon steaks for?  In the oven?  Outside on the BBQ/grill?  If I did it outside would I have to put it in foil, or is the steak thick enough that I could do it directly on the grill?

I'm thinking I will probably do it inside, because I want to do ribs on the BBQ tomorrow, and I'm not sure how much gas is left in my BBQ.

Or I could poach them in the microwave.

I'm just not sure how long I'd put them for in the oven.  Usually I cook fish for like 20 minutes in the oven at around 375.  And outside i do it for 15.

I'm trying to find cooking times on allrecipes right now.
Rule of thumb is ten minutes per inch thickness.

Or is that ten minutes per side per inch of thickness.

Something's fishy around here.
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Post by: Jay on October 06, 2004, 09:44:10 PM
There's a cricket hiding somewhere in my kitchen chirping away like there's no tomorrow.  (Oh.  A Tony Martin reference.)
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 09:46:56 PM
What about going in a totally different direction?  How about David Hyde Pierce?? ::)
Interesting, but that would be in complete opposition to Al Capp's original ideas.  (Not that the very friendly Stubby Kaye wasn't in opposition to the total profiteer original.)

DHP as Evil Eye Fleegle?  Probably not.  But he'd make a good Avaliable Jones, inventor of Stufepfyin' Jones.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 09:48:53 PM
Just curious, but how many posts-in-a-row constitute a frenzy?
Six.  One for each letter.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 09:50:20 PM
LOST continued with an excellent episode tonight. We continue to get backstory on various survivors that in shown in counterpoint with continuing developments on the island where they're trapped. A most intriguing series.
Dang, I missed it this time.  I'll have to catch up with the good stuff at one of the fansites.   :-\
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 09:56:45 PM
I do indeed hope we have photographs that people will share with us.  I have finished Faherenheit 9/11 and shall now watch The Fearless Vampire Killers or It's Alive.
I remember It's Alive from my days as an usher at the Alex Theater, back before it was refurbished and became famous.

Go with The Fearless Vampire Killers.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 10:24:20 PM
Oh, Happy day when miracles take place
And scientists control the human race
When we assume authority of human chromosomes
And assembly-line women
Conveyor belt men
Settle down in push-button homes.


That's a sample for anyone here who isn't familiar with L'il Abner.
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Post by: S. Woody White on October 06, 2004, 10:25:32 PM
Time to wussburger.  We may have four-legged houseguests very soon.
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Post by: Ann on October 06, 2004, 10:40:39 PM
hello all!
I really have been keeping up with the notes, just been really bad about posting.  I'm still heavy into job hunting these days, and interviews are slowly but surely starting to happen.  I haven't given up hope yet! :)

Would anyone like to see a pic of myself, TCB, and DR Jed that I took when Jed and I went to see TCB in 10 Little Indians?  It is quite a nice picture, I must say...

My big news...I have two new babies!  Petrie and Piper are my new little sugar gliders.  I bought them about two weeks ago, and they are just lovely.  Petrie is quite shy still, but they are both starting to trust me more each day.  They are simply wonderful little pets.

If I may be allowed to post on yesterday's TOTD...my mother made the best raspberry jam and fresh pesto in the world.  
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Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 10:42:36 PM
Of course you should post the photo.
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Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 10:44:39 PM
Photo. pleeze!
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Post by: Jrand74 on October 06, 2004, 10:45:28 PM
DRANN let's see the photo?

Where is DRJED?

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Post by: Jrand74 on October 06, 2004, 10:45:47 PM
I must work on my script.
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Post by: Sandra on October 06, 2004, 10:46:57 PM
Yes, Ann, post the picture. And post a picture of your sugar gliders too!
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Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 10:53:01 PM
Interesting fact about last night's debate...

When Edwards brought up Haliburton, Cheney said, "...The reason they keep mentioning Halliburton is because they're trying to throw up a smoke screen... They know the charges are false. They know if you go, for example, to factcheck.com, an independent website sponsored by the University of Pennsylvania, you can get the specific details, with respect to Halliburton."

That was a big booboo. Cheney meant to say factcheck.org.

The 'factcheck.com' site redirects viewers to a George Soros website, titled, "Why We Must Not Re-Elect George Bush."
In a "personal message" on the redirected factcheck.com website, Soros, the wealthy (HUNGARIAN-American) funder of liberal causes, says, "President Bush is endangering our safety, hurting our vital interests, and undermining American values."

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Post by: George on October 06, 2004, 10:54:19 PM
Overheard on the street: "...So I just threw on some clothes and rushed out. I mean I wasn't ready dressing-wise."

Overheard tonight at Wendy's, from a woman who appeared to be in her early twenties, who was in a booth right behind me:  "....He's an old man, older than my mother...forty something."  Then a moment later:  "....He's (refering to a different gentleman) an old, old man...forty something, also." :o I almost spit out my diet Coke!
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Post by: Ann on October 06, 2004, 10:59:29 PM
there we are!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on October 06, 2004, 11:00:18 PM
Fish:  Rule of thumb -- F 400 degree oven -- 10 minutes.

IF you want to turn it over, do it at the five-minute mark, but you shouldn't have to.
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Post by: George on October 06, 2004, 11:04:53 PM
Great picture Ann!
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Post by: Jrand74 on October 06, 2004, 11:12:11 PM
Thanks DRANN - Great picture!
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Post by: bk on October 06, 2004, 11:19:12 PM
Nice photo.
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Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 11:25:28 PM
Cool pic!
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Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 11:27:22 PM
...Did I just say "cool pic"...? I'm channeling Ed "Kookie" Byrnes.
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Post by: Panni on October 06, 2004, 11:27:56 PM
And one for Gustav "Kookie" Mahler.