Haines His Way
Haines His Way => Daily Discussions => Topic started by: bk on August 13, 2021, 12:16:35 AM
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Well, you've read the notes, the notes were nice and also calm, and now it is time for you to post until the nice, calm cows come home.
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And the word of the day is: KVELL!
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Listening to the London cast album of 1776 - a shame it was never released on CD - and why?
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Good morning, all!
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I'm debating if I should do laundry or follow the weatherman's advice and hold off. Temperatures may get in the 100s today and there's a heat watch alert.
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BK, much as I think there are some wonderful things about the Sutherland=Lansbury-Bonynge recording, it's the recording of "The Beggar's Opera" I really dislike. The concept for this arrangement - I believe it was for the Australian Opera - was a movie studio producing "The Beggar's Opera," hence the large orchestra and lush orchestrations, and most of the recording cast was not in that production. My biggest problem is that several of the tunes are completely rewritten by Gamley or Bonynge.
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"The Beggar's Opera" had a huge revival in London in 1922 in a small theatre, the Lyric Hammersmith, using singers from Thomas Beecham's opera company. It had new arrangements by Fredric Austin, who also played Peachum, and a cleaned up text. It was pretty, rather sanitized, and ran for several years. There was an original cast recording, which I find hard to listen to because of the sound. The Lyric Hammersmith and Austin then produced "Polly," John Gay's sequel to "The Beggar's Opera," and that too got recorded. Symposium reissued both cast recordings together.
It was this successful revival that led to the Brecht-Weill "Threepenny Opera."
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In December 1966 I made my first visit to Manhattan. At Sam Goody's I found two recordings of "The Beggar's Opera," an Argo recording the Austin version with its original chamber orchestration, conducted by Fredric Austin's son. It used a cast of actors doing a condensed version of the dialogue and a cast of singers. It's very prettyand I like Austin's version for what it is, but I find his arrangement too pretty-18th century pastiche.
The second recording was an English cast of actors and singers conducting Broadway conductor Max Goberman's arrangement. This was actually Goberman's second recording. I have never heard the first, but both recordings were the first to record all 69 tunes in the original play. Goberman was the original conductor of A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, Where's Charley?, and West Side Story.
The Goberman recording also included a beautiful facsimile of the original publication of the 1728 publication of the play with the songs and overture.
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The last London revival of the Austin version was in the 1940s, directed by John Gielgud, and starring Michael Redgrave. It began at the Glyndebourne Opera. The recording's fun, but by this time it was becoming apparent that Austin's prettified arrangements maybe didn't suit the bawdy and seamier sides of a gritty 18th century.
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In the 1950s, Sir Malcoln Sargent, who may have conducted at some point the 1920s Lyric Hammersmith production, re-orchestrated the Austin version for a full orchestra and recorded it with a cast of singers and actors doing the dialogue - still bawdlerized - for EMI. It has good moments, but I prefer Austin's chamber orchestra arrangement.
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Then along came Benjamin Britten in 1948 with an arrangement for The English Opera Group, directed by Tyrone Guthrie, who also edited the text. The aim was to get closer to the gritty side of the 18th century, since the piece was supposedly written by a Beggar and performed by beggars in their "great room at St Giles." I think this is the first attempt to give the songs some dramatic urgency and push to match the drama. I think it's a great work, much in the style of Britten's wonderful folksong arrangements.
The first recording was in the early 1990s, conducted by Steuart Bedford who assisted Britten on the 1963 English Opera Group production. I like the music, but I hate the adaptation of the text for the spoken dialogue.
The second recording of the Britten version was the discovery of the 1948 BBC radio broadcast of the opera. It's nice to hear the cast it was written for.
Recently, the work was performed by Covent Garden, and Chandos produced a new recording, which O like very much.
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Early Music specialist Jeremy Barlow attempted an authentic 1728 edition which was published by Oxford University Press, He recorded it for Hyperion. I think the dialogue is complete, and if you like faux-Purcell and Handel, you'll enjoy it. His edition was also used for a BBC television broadcasty starring Roger Daltrey and Patricia Routledge. My friend Rosemary Ashe plays Lucy Lockit.
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There are London cast recordings of two later arrangements. They're interesting and both have good moments.
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Good morning, friends.
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What an amazing survey, DR elmore3003. Thank you!
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And, last, two more DVDs. The first is the early 1950s fi;m starring Laurence Olivier, Stanley Holloway, and Dorothy Tutin in Peter Brook's first film. The songs got new lyrics by Christopher Fry and a score by Arthur Bliss. I like it very much.
The 1963 English Opera Group production, conducted by Britten, got a BBC TV broadcast, and it finally turned up on DVD.
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To blow my own horn, Britten's version of The Beggar's Opera was the last thing I directed in Ohio before my move to Manhattan in 1979.
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Good morning, all.
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Back in San Antonio after a 1193-mile ride yesterday.
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We’ll see if I hold up.
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I finished Stephen King’s Billy Summers yesterday and started a new book called The Bookstore of Second Chances. It’s funny because it touches on cleaning out an estate filled with a library of books.
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Some of the titles are the same as those in Louisville like a set of Robert Burns.
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Good morning, all.
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Oh, my. That is quite the education from DR Elmore this morning. My goodness!
Thank you for that!
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To blow my own horn, Britten's version of The Beggar's Opera was the last thing I directed in Ohio before my move to Manhattan in 1979.
I believe we need a DVD of this one! :)
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Welcome home the DR JOHN G.
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Wonderful posts about TBO.....and I loved the shout out to Guys & Dolls in the notes.
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Back in San Antonio after a 1193-mile ride yesterday.
I don't know how you do that. I have more driving stamina than most anyone I know, but I can't compete with that. My 720-mile drives to Cincinnati, which at a reasonable pace with rest stops take me 11 or 12 hours, are quite enough, thank you.
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Of course I can't think about The Beggar's Opera without also thinking about Alan Ayckbourne's play "A Chorus of Disapproval" about an amateur theatrical troupe in England doing TBO...it is hilarious.
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Back in San Antonio after a 1193-mile ride yesterday.
I don't know how you do that. I have more driving stamina than most anyone I know, but I can't compete with that. My 720-mile drives to Cincinnati, which at a reasonable pace with rest stops take me 11 or 12 hours, are quite enough, thank you.
And to think I used to split that drive up, stopping in western PA or eastern OH. Sometimes that was for a good reason, but I eventually learned it wasn't necessary.
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Friday morning greetings! We had a nice break from our household chaos last night. We went out to dinner with our friends Sharon and Tom.
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To blow my own horn, Britten's version of The Beggar's Opera was the last thing I directed in Ohio before my move to Manhattan in 1979.
And my last opportunity to do my favorite backstage job - director’s assistant :-*
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Color me alarmed. Yesterday Chewy.com informed me that two orders had been delivered: 40 lbs of litter and a carton of food, about $80.00 in funds. After I put the laundry in the washers - well, I went ahead - I checked the mail and the packages in the lobby. Nothing for me from Chewy.com. God knows if the driver screwed up and left them somewhere else or if they will arrive today.
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Of course I can't think about The Beggar's Opera without also thinking about Alan Ayckbourne's play "A Chorus of Disapproval" about an amateur theatrical troupe in England doing TBO...it is hilarious.
I've always wanted to read or saee it. Is the movie version any good?
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To blow my own horn, Britten's version of The Beggar's Opera was the last thing I directed in Ohio before my move to Manhattan in 1979.
And my last opportunity to do my favorite backstage job - director’s assistant :-*
You did good!
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To blow my own horn, Britten's version of The Beggar's Opera was the last thing I directed in Ohio before my move to Manhattan in 1979.
And my last opportunity to do my favorite backstage job - director’s assistant :-*
You did good!
What DR Elmore is too kind to mention is that I had pretty severe bronchitis and missed quite a few rehearsals. I think I’ll listen to the CD today - after the jackhammering stops.
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Back in San Antonio after a 1193-mile ride yesterday.
I don't know how you do that. I have more driving stamina than most anyone I know, but I can't compete with that. My 720-mile drives to Cincinnati, which at a reasonable pace with rest stops take me 11 or 12 hours, are quite enough, thank you.
I think this is my last marathon. Of course, I said that last year.
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Back in San Antonio after a 1193-mile ride yesterday.
I don't know how you do that. I have more driving stamina than most anyone I know, but I can't compete with that. My 720-mile drives to Cincinnati, which at a reasonable pace with rest stops take me 11 or 12 hours, are quite enough, thank you.
I think this is my last marathon. Of course, I said that last year.
We are wimps in this department. A 6-hour driving day is about all we can handle.
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Well, I just lost all respect for her!
https://pagesix.com/2021/08/12/broadway-superstar-laura-osnes-fired-from-show-for-not-being-vaccinated/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=P6Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow
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Well, I told the post office not to deliver my mail, that I would pick it up. But, no, it was on my doorstep last night. Included was BK’s musical note, which was bent.
I am not happy.
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Well, I told the post office not to deliver my mail, that I would pick it up. But, no, it was on my doorstep last night. Included was BK’s musical note, which was bent.
I am not happy.
Sounds like my post office! Did you do the hold online so you have a record?
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Well, I told the post office not to deliver my mail, that I would pick it up. But, no, it was on my doorstep last night. Included was BK’s musical note, which was bent.
I am not happy.
Did they bend it or was it ill-packed? Everyone else's seems to have arrived intact. I can do another one for you.
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I suppose I'm up. To bed at three, fell asleep quickly, woke up at five not feeling so well in the tummy. Was up for two hours, then tried to go to sleep again, but too much happing in the cranium. So, up again, went to CVS for more Claritin-D.
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Well, I just lost all respect for her!
https://pagesix.com/2021/08/12/broadway-superstar-laura-osnes-fired-from-show-for-not-being-vaccinated/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=P6Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow
Yikes! :o
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Well, I told the post office not to deliver my mail, that I would pick it up. But, no, it was on my doorstep last night. Included was BK’s musical note, which was bent.
I am not happy.
Did they bend it or was it ill-packed? Everyone else's seems to have arrived intact. I can do another one for you.
I think they bent it, judging by what it was with.
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Laundry is finished. I'll put it away after my legs have rested for a bit.
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From DR Laura:
When I get angry at someone, I wiggle my left hand fingers at them. It doesn't mean anything to anyone else but me, so they don't know what I'm thinking. The wiggling represents rattling, like a rattlesnake. And offering your left hand is an insult in some cultures.
I love this.
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DR Jeanne this week has just been for invited guests for the new team to practice working together. Saturday it will be open for everyone.
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DR TCB I hope your early morning went well.
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Back in San Antonio after a 1193-mile ride yesterday.
Welcome home.
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We’ll see if I hold up.
I would have needed a nap.
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I still haven’t gotten the 10-CD pack or The Sap of Life/Cole Porter III
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Welcome home, DR John G.
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~~~PACKAGE FINDING VIBES~~~ for DR elmore3003!!!
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Indiegogo package arrived! Thank you, BK.
However...the three TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT items were not included, and there was definitely room for them in the box. Were those shipping separately regardless?
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I still haven’t gotten the 10-CD pack or The Sap of Life/Cole Porter III
All the ten-CD packs have gone out long ago - let me check on it - you did send a list, yes? She's still shipping Sap/Cole - she does about fifty a day and we had a LOT of orders.
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ChasSmith, I called it out TWICE on the sheet - she'll send now.
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DR ELMORE I have never seen the movie version.
We saw the stage version in Ireland at a theatre competition - we represented the US with our production of MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM - and it was done by an Irish troupe.....and it was wonderful.
Of course it was a theatre full of theatre folks.....and the director some guy who called himself Daniel Hollywood played the director in the show....anyway....it was most enjoyable.
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I love this! The video is really sweet.
https://kingdomstv.com/have-such-a-good-relationship-she-introduces-him-to-her-newborns/
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I had garlic dill pickle spears as a part of my lunch. And I don't care who knows it!
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I just encountered my first bottle of black cherry Sparkling ICE. I liked it.
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Page 3 Dance!
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I love this! The video is really sweet.
https://kingdomstv.com/have-such-a-good-relationship-she-introduces-him-to-her-newborns/
That's so cool!
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I just encountered my first bottle of black cherry Sparkling ICE. I liked it.
Good! I have to go back to Costco to see if they still have any.
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I just read about a new app to rent a swimming pool near you in a private home. The pools rent out by the hour.
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We went to the new gym today. Getting there and home was much faster.
Keith preferred all of the equipment. I had pros & cons.
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DR George do you plan to speak to your doctor to see if you can qualify for a booster shot? And if so, which one?
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I still haven’t gotten the 10-CD pack or The Sap of Life/Cole Porter III
All the ten-CD packs have gone out long ago - let me check on it - you did send a list, yes? She's still shipping Sap/Cole - she does about fifty a day and we had a LOT of orders.
I did send a list.
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BK, I think I emailed the wrong address. Sent it again.
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Back from a really fun lunch, catching up with Sami and her mom - first time I've seen Sami in a year.
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We went to Casa Vega (she loves it there) - we shared some chili con queso dip - I didn't have that much - and I had a beef taco and an appetizer thing of taquitos with chicken - they were weird but I ate them - just two cut up in small pieces.
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Now I'm back home and working on the show order for the Group Rep. There is a small package coming today, but it's an Amazon delivery so that schmo probably won't show up until the end of the day.
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I'm not going to the Group Rep tonight to see Doug's playlet - not on two hours of sleep.
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Has anyone besides me been watching this? I don't know if it was on PBS or not. I'm really loving it. I suspect a lot of the crew is from Downton Abbey. The music, which I disliked in Downton Abbey, is by the same composer, and all thart strings and piano throbbing sounds as though he just lifted it the first series.
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Thanks for all The Beggar's Opera stuff. I'll try the Britten and maybe one of the others. But I suspect my love of the Gamley version is precisely because it is what it is.
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Thanks for all The Beggar's Opera stuff. I'll try the Britten and maybe one of the others. But I suspect my love of the Gamley version is precisely because it is what it is.
BK, I have the Britten Beggar's Opera. If you just want go hear it, I can rip it and send the MP3s when I get home (after playing Phase 10, of course ;) ).
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And on a scarier note (D-flat): First live 'murder hornet' of 2021 spotted attacking a wasp nest in Washington (https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/13/us/murder-hornet-washington-scn-trnd/index.html). :o
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I see Belgravia's season one is 6 episodes. We'll give it a try.
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And on a scarier note (D-flat): First live 'murder hornet' of 2021 spotted attacking a wasp nest in Washington (https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/13/us/murder-hornet-washington-scn-trnd/index.html). :o
:o
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Hey! Cole Porter Vol. III and The Sap of Life have just arrived in Tumwater! :D
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I think I watched a couple of BELGRAVIA episodes on EPIX Tv....I think.
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It was very nice of MR BK to pass on his advice to the novice Go Funder.....
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Thanks for all The Beggar's Opera stuff. I'll try the Britten and maybe one of the others. But I suspect my love of the Gamley version is precisely because it is what it is.
The 1963 BBC broadcast of the English Opera Group is complete on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1vwiPMrK5I
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I have the Roger Daltry DVD of Begger’s Opera that Elmore mentioned. I haven’t had time to watch it all the way through.
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It was very nice of MR BK to pass on his advice to the novice Go Funder.....
Yes, and to connect her with Marshall.
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It is a good thing I have been wearing new shorts to the gym as my denim shorts are not permitted at the gym we switched to today.
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I see Belgravia's season one is 6 episodes. We'll give it a try.
i think "season 1" is the complete novel and there will be no season 2.
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I have the Roger Daltry DVD of Begger’s Opera that Elmore mentioned. I haven’t had time to watch it all the way through.
Patricia Routledge is wonderful.
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What's wrong with denim shorts???
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Package delivered and picked up.
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What's wrong with denim shorts???
LOL, I was clueless and looked it up. They said denim but Keith thinks they mean jeans. Googling for a reason I found if too tight and you are doing certain exercises they could cause harm ::)
Another site mentioned belt loops, holes, pockets, zippers, etc. Well all those, except holes on my newer shorts, are on my shorts ;D
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The humidity has dropped down to 32% since we returned home from our afternoon walk. I am sure it still feels hotter out there as it is 93 degrees.
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At least it is staying under 100 today.
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Listening to the new Bernard Herrmann box set - seven discs - all those Phase 4 film music discs that were like manna from heaven when they came out. And they have indeed all been newly mastered. They're very clean-sounding, a little more transparent than the other releases I have, and maybe a tiny bit dryer.
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I’m drinking my first Sparkling Ice. Black Cherry.
LOVE IT.
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The humidity has dropped down to 32% since we returned home from our afternoon walk. I am sure it still feels hotter out there as it is 93 degrees.
I don't know about the humidity, but it's 94° in Tumwater, right now.
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Oh, found it. It's 29%.
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Hello, everyone.
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Went to acupuncture today, then stopped on the way home for Indian take-out. Lots of good leftovers.
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Has anyone besides me been watching this? I don't know if it was on PBS or not. I'm really loving it. I suspect a lot of the crew is from Downton Abbey. The music, which I disliked in Downton Abbey, is by the same composer, and all thart strings and piano throbbing sounds as though he just lifted it the first series.
It's a show I've been interested in, but haven't yet watched. I think it's currently pay-per-view on Amazon Prime.
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TOD:
Either Ben Miller's Professor T (I tried the original and didn't like it) or True Detective.
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TTFN.
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Oh, found it. It's 29%.
I would expect it to be lower there, but then I didn't expect to be as hot.
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DR Jeanne and anyone else who uses Similasan Eye drops. I sent the following question to Similasan:
Can you please explain the difference between your Dry Eye Relief and Complete Comfort Relief. I have two open bottles thinking they were different. According to your packaging on your website, and comparing my two bottles, they seem to be the same.
Why does your online packaging show they contain Merrcurius sublimaus 6X while both of my bottles say Mercurius sublimaus 15X?
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Their response:
Yes, they are essentially the same products, but they are sold for different issues. They are the same product though and can be used interchangeably. The ingredients that are used can be used against a wide range of problems. So many that if we listed all of them on the box than we would run out of room on the packaging. So, Similasan has decide to create two different products. Also, we wanted to have and specific dry eye product and one than can treat other eye issues. Our scientists found that the combination of these ingredients were able to both.
Regarding your second question, we recently reformulated the product and we will update the website shortly.
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I guess it doesn't matter if I purchase the Complete drops or the Dry Eye Drops. I will just buy whatever I can find.
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Good evening.
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Hi Laura.
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Are you managing to stay cool?
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DR Laura is nothing if not cool. 8)
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Good night, friends.
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'night
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Enjoying a regional specialty called corn in cup. Corn kernels mixed with mayo, cayenne and maybe margarine. Delicious.
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Waiting for tacos.
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This outdoor place operates late into the evening, even with covid. And the crowds are here. And happy.
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Gratuitous post No. 115!
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Finished with my viewing and am extremely nauseous and don't know why - could be the two hours of sleep, could be something at Casa Vega isn't agreeing with me, but I'm not a happy camper right now.
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Watching a nifty noir called Alias Nick Beal with the wonderful Thomas Mitchell as a good guy who sells his soul to Ray Milland, a very good Mephistopholes. Audrey Totter is a great moll who favors sable (not the fish) over morals.
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I need to get a massage. Sitting in that car all day yesterday hasn't helped me any.
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Let's move on ...
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Five!
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Hello, 1 guest!
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I haven't had a massage in a decade. That would be very nice. At the bare minimum and hour-long foot rub would really make me happy.
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But alas and alack, who will come and do such a thing?
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Listening to the Herrmann box.
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I think maybe the movie I watched helped exacerbate my nausea.
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Nothing like a bad movie to make you sick to your stomach.
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Good night, all.
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I guess it doesn't matter if I purchase the Complete drops or the Dry Eye Drops. I will just buy whatever I can find.
And whichever is cheaper, if there's a price difference. ::)
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I'd read that the daily-wear contacts that are worn once and thrown away, and the kind that are taken out each night and cleaned but used for months, are the exact same contact lens! It's just marketing! :o
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I just encountered my first bottle of black cherry Sparkling ICE. I liked it.
Would you like my half bottle of black cherry? I thought it was nasty.
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Hi, Tom.
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Well, this is news: Tony Bennett Retires From Concerts At The Tender Age Of 95 (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tony-bennett-retires-from-concerts_n_6116e04fe4b0a2603b7dddb0).
The singer’s son emphasized that Bennett’s talent is still present, but the family doesn’t want to risk an onstage accident.
:o
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I'd read that the daily-wear contacts that are worn once and thrown away, and the kind that are taken out each night and cleaned but used for months, are the exact same contact lens! It's just marketing! :o
I don’t believe that is correct, George. I have used both, and I believe the daily disposable lenses are thinner than the other lenses.
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I'd read that the daily-wear contacts that are worn once and thrown away, and the kind that are taken out each night and cleaned but used for months, are the exact same contact lens! It's just marketing! :o
I don’t believe that is correct, George. I have used both, and I believe the daily disposable lenses are thinner than the other lenses.
But it has been a good 15 years since I have worn either type.
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I watched a very strange movie on Hulu tonight. I believe it was called THE QUAKE.
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It was a Norwegian film from Norway. With subtitles!
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My least favorite way to watch a film. Apparently they think that a good Norwegian boy, wouldn’t speak the mother tongue.
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That would be correct. Although my grandmother’s accent did get thicker every year.
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Hello, George.
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Tomorrow is supposed to be cooler than it's been!
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HOO and RAY!! ;D
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Amazing things in the notes, which are now up. I mean, AMAZING THINGS.
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Like really AMAZING.
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Mind-bogglingly amazing. Amazingly amazing.