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Title: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 12:35:42 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes had arms until we said farewell to them, and now it is time for you to post until the farewell cows come home.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 12:37:40 AM
And the word of the day is: VITALITY!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: MichaelG on October 11, 2025, 12:42:12 AM
I'm back from our opening night. The performance went splendidly, the orgy scene was great fun as always, and the cookies all disappeared at the cast party afterwards. Saturday is an off day, then we have a Sunday matinee. Good night!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 01:57:03 AM
Glad to hear it all went swimmingly.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 04:01:14 AM
I'm back from our opening night. The performance went splendidly, the orgy scene was great fun as always, and the cookies all disappeared at the cast party afterwards. Saturday is an off day, then we have a Sunday matinee. Good night!


Great opera repor, MichaelG!  Congratulations!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 04:40:54 AM
Good morning, all!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 04:42:37 AM
This has been a morning of drops, spills, and other messes, so I'm canceling all plans - there weren't many! - and  taking it easy today.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 04:43:12 AM
I'm back from our opening night. The performance went splendidly, the orgy scene was great fun as always, and the cookies all disappeared at the cast party afterwards. Saturday is an off day, then we have a Sunday matinee. Good night!

How did the scenery deal with the collapsing temple?
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 04:44:21 AM
DR Rodzinski, "Pug" is DR George's friend. Annabelle is Pudgy Wudgy!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 04:46:40 AM
This has been a morning of drops, spills, and other messes, so I'm canceling all plans - there weren't many! - and  taking it easy today.


Sending you safety and wellness vibes!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 04:47:39 AM
BK, I've been through four hours of Epstein documentary, one hour of Ghislaine Maxwell documentary, and we have a suspected pedophile president. I'll pass on Grandpa the Pedophile chiropracter.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 04:50:08 AM
Last night I finished the first season of The House of Guinness. Episodes 1 & 2 could have set up the characters better and the accents are sometimes hard to follow, but once the series got rolling, I really enjoyed it. The season ended with a real cliffhanger.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 04:52:04 AM
Good morning, all.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 04:52:26 AM
Getting plants this morning.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 04:52:38 AM
This has been a morning of drops, spills, and other messes, so I'm canceling all plans - there weren't many! - and  taking it easy today.

Sending you safety and wellness vibes!

Thanks! When I have periods like this, I get a bit panicked that I'm in the early stages of a stroke or that I might ebd up with a bad fall.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 04:53:07 AM
DR John G, how was the Big Event?
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 04:53:15 AM
Book sale was okay. Sold 10 copies. The place was fun. Lively. I want to return.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 04:53:42 AM
Getting plants this morning.

I read "Getting piano this morning!"
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 04:54:13 AM
Sunday is the next signing. Back at a winery, Siboney Cellars.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 04:54:22 AM
Book sale was okay. Sold 10 copies. The place was fun. Lively. I want to return.


Great that it went well!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 04:54:47 AM
Getting plants this morning.

I read "Getting piano this morning!"

No room for one of those, except in the garden.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 04:59:31 AM
BK, I've been through four hours of Epstein documentary, one hour of Ghislaine Maxwell documentary, and we have a suspected pedophile president. I'll pass on Grandpa the Pedophile chiropracter.


With Ghislaine Maxwell back in the news due to her lawyer seeking a pardon for her from the President  - This was my Facebook post from July, when her lawyer David Oscar Markus (who's also one of the lawyers helping my brother Macbeth Landau in his inheritance theft fraud and scam) was constantly on the news.

July 2025

You could play a drinking game taking a sip of coffee every time the name of high-powered, high-priced attorney David Oscar Markus, attorney for Ghislaine Maxwell, is on the news these days.
 
And he was also just as high-profile in 2020 as today - and the involvement of such a high-powered attorney anywhere in - wait for it! - the Landau family's finances or estate matters against - again, wait for it! - me, makes no sense!

A puzzlement:  What is the "money" or "pull" that got as high-powered, high-profile an attorney as David Markus anywhere near my family's finances, actively looking out for the interests of these inheritance theft scammers - my brother Hilary (Macbeth) Landau and his wife Joann (Lady Macbeth) Landau, against me.

But David Markus' name is all over the attorney invoice.
I had hired a Florida attorney named Paul Berman, paid him over $15,000 as MY lawyer - but there David Markus is, on the Paul Berman invoice, working against my interests.

Who got as high-powered an attorney as David Markus doing this?  This high-powered lawyer represents the interests of  people like Hillary Clinton and Ghislaine Maxwell -  and also somehow my brother Hilary Landau and his wife Joann Landau!



Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 05:03:18 AM
I wonder if BK's publisher  would allow my memoir under a title like "The Day Ghislaine Maxwell's Lawyer F***ed Me" through their vetting system.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 05:10:14 AM
TOD
When I was around 3-4, I learned to read from the labels on the 78 recordings in my grandmother's house. My favorite was the 1948 Boston Pops recording of Khatchaturian's "sabre Dance" from the ballet Gayne. I've loved Arthur Fiedler ever since. He remains one of my favorite conductors. I think he is overloooked because he was a pops conductor and therefore not a serious artiste. As far as erned, he's right up there with Ormandy.

I still wait for BMG to release his recording of Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker excerpts; they've issued bits on various Fiedler compilations, but the complete LP recording has never been released. I'd also love a complete Fiedler-Disney set tjay omcluded his monaural recordings, like his  wonderful medley from Disney's Alice in Wonderland

A complete Boston Pops compilation;ation would be nice.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 05:12:58 AM
I'm back from our opening night. The performance went splendidly, the orgy scene was great fun as always, and the cookies all disappeared at the cast party afterwards. Saturday is an off day, then we have a Sunday matinee. Good night!

Congrats on the successful opening night, Michael!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 05:13:11 AM
Wordle 1,575 6/6

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Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 05:14:35 AM
This has been a morning of drops, spills, and other messes, so I'm canceling all plans - there weren't many! - and  taking it easy today.


Sending you safety and wellness vibes!

~~~DITTO!!~~~
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 05:17:07 AM
Book sale was okay. Sold 10 copies. The place was fun. Lively. I want to return.

Congrats on the semi-success!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Laura on October 11, 2025, 05:33:42 AM
Good morning.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Laura on October 11, 2025, 05:34:50 AM
Today is Grandson's birthday party -- a kids' party at a kid venue. I've enjoyed the family celebrations. But it is time for him to celebrate with kids. I'm sure it will be loud.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Laura on October 11, 2025, 05:37:10 AM
Hurricane Priscilla is visiting us this weekend. I just hope we don't get all the rain in a couple of hours, like last time.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 05:45:40 AM
Today is Grandson's birthday party -- a kids' party at a kid venue. I've enjoyed the family celebrations. But it is time for him to celebrate with kids. I'm sure it will be loud.

Sounds like it will be both loud and fun!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 06:02:47 AM
SHILLING FOR YOUTUBE VIEWS POST AHEAD -

A Columbus Day and Indigenous Peoples' Day tradition.

This asks the parody question:  Even with the objections to Columbus, can we all agree that we still want to keep the 3-day weekend?

"They're All Dissing Christopher Columbus" -
to tune of "They All Laughed (at Christopher Columbus)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hQBFXK4vTw


Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: ChasSmith on October 11, 2025, 06:06:28 AM
Good morning, all.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: ChasSmith on October 11, 2025, 06:08:32 AM
Weather-wise, we're still getting that nor'easter tomorrow night through Monday morning, but its path is such that it shouldn't be a rough one in these parts. Knock wood that remains the case.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: ChasSmith on October 11, 2025, 06:16:04 AM
TOD
When I was around 3-4, I learned to read from the labels on the 78 recordings in my grandmother's house. My favorite was the 1948 Boston Pops recording of Khatchaturian's "sabre Dance" from the ballet Gayne. I've loved Arthur Fiedler ever since. He remains one of my favorite conductors. I think he is overloooked because he was a pops conductor and therefore not a serious artiste. As far as erned, he's right up there with Ormandy.

I still wait for BMG to release his recording of Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker excerpts; they've issued bits on various Fiedler compilations, but the complete LP recording has never been released. I'd also love a complete Fiedler-Disney set tjay omcluded his monaural recordings, like his  wonderful medley from Disney's Alice in Wonderland

A complete Boston Pops compilation;ation would be nice.

That's amazing, your introduction to both Fiedler and the Sabre Dance! I wonder if I have that piece on any of the Fiedler LPs I have. I'll go look in a bit.

DR Elmore -- If I can manage to beat BMG to it, I will make you my best possible LP transfer of the Nutcracker excerpts!

I remember, literally, the day I first found and listened to that LP in my record-hunting days, circa 1990-1991. I was amazed at how it was NOT just the "Suite", and how lovely it was, and as I recall, the LP is in perfect shape. I must quit procrastinating, and fix the bad connection in my turntable's wiring so I can do these things again. I've got a backlog of things I've wanted to listen to, research, copy, etc.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: ChasSmith on October 11, 2025, 06:38:42 AM
TOD

I feel like I was born knowing the phrase "Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops", but my own real introduction to him was the RCA Living Stereo recording of Gershwin's Concerto in F with the Pops and Earl Wild. That came to me a couple of years after I'd been struck by the Gershwin triple lightning bolt of Rhapsody in Blue, Porgy and Bess, and then the Concerto in F via the Mercury recording. Learning of the Fiedler recording was probably thanks to my being in the RCA Record Club. A HUGE bonus on that album was the inclusion, and introduction to me, of the Cuban Overture and the "I Got Rhythm" Variations. What amazing pieces, and playing. I must have played that record until my family was ready to put out a contract on me.

I didn't accumulate other Fiedler recordings until the aforementioned record-hunting days, when by then I knew to watch for other RCA Living Stereo recordings, Fiedler's included. I have a few of those LPs, but there are many more I probably haven't even heard to this day. One that I know I have is the Leroy Anderson album. But they're all amazing recordings and performances. That Nutcracker, and his Dvorak New World Symphony recording, a much later discovery, were equally amazing finds.

Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 06:59:28 AM
Getting plants this morning.

One can never have enough plants.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 06:59:35 AM
Or pianos.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 06:59:47 AM
Good opening night news from DR MichaelG!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 07:00:05 AM
Good book sales repor from DR John G.!!!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 07:02:18 AM
OH, and...
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 07:02:29 AM
Good morning, friends.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 07:02:37 AM
And others.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 07:07:22 AM
A farewell to arms, you said?
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jrand75 on October 11, 2025, 07:19:42 AM
Saturday.
Good repor from DR MICHAL G.

Happy Vacation DR singdaw.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jrand75 on October 11, 2025, 07:20:27 AM
57 degrees heading to 74 degrees

Okay day weatherwise.

No mail on Monday.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 07:30:50 AM
TOD
When I was around 3-4, I learned to read from the labels on the 78 recordings in my grandmother's house. My favorite was the 1948 Boston Pops recording of Khatchaturian's "sabre Dance" from the ballet Gayne. I've loved Arthur Fiedler ever since. He remains one of my favorite conductors. I think he is overloooked because he was a pops conductor and therefore not a serious artiste. As far as erned, he's right up there with Ormandy.

I still wait for BMG to release his recording of Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker excerpts; they've issued bits on various Fiedler compilations, but the complete LP recording has never been released. I'd also love a complete Fiedler-Disney set tjay omcluded his monaural recordings, like his  wonderful medley from Disney's Alice in Wonderland

A complete Boston Pops compilation;ation would be nice.

DR Elmore -- If I can manage to beat BMG to it, I will make you my best possible LP transfer of the Nutcracker excerpts!


Thank you!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 07:34:43 AM
Fiedler always used the most wonderful arrangers and orchestrators; for instance, he recorded Les Sylphides, a ballet based on Chopin piano pieces, not in the standard ballet orchestration but in a new one by Leroy Anderson, and one could say it was Fiedler and the Boston Pops that put Anderson on the map as a light composer.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 07:57:23 AM
Hail Caesar!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 08:29:29 AM
I guess I'm up - butt wipes across the street still at it - it never ends.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 08:49:59 AM
“I feel like I was born knowing the phrase "Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops"… Same!

My dad was a Fiedler connoisseur. One I remember best was Offenbach’s Gaîté parisienne. I was most intrigued by the LP cover.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 08:56:59 AM
From DR Rodzinski:

Quote
Where I live will be divided as people either root for Seattle, the closest team, or Toronto, the one Canadian team.

Do you care who wins?  I'm thinking maybe your family prefers Toronto.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 08:57:24 AM
Thanks George.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 08:59:44 AM
DR Rodzinski, on our Thanksgiving day, when the kids go to school do the grownups have a nice alone day?
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 09:00:23 AM
I'm back from our opening night. The performance went splendidly, the orgy scene was great fun as always, and the cookies all disappeared at the cast party afterwards. Saturday is an off day, then we have a Sunday matinee. Good night!

Decent sale, and you had fun.  I hope you can return :)
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 09:01:22 AM
Book sale was okay. Sold 10 copies. The place was fun. Lively. I want to return.

Fantastic!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 09:02:21 AM
Wordle 1,575 6/6

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Whew!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 09:04:14 AM
Today is Grandson's birthday party -- a kids' party at a kid venue. I've enjoyed the family celebrations. But it is time for him to celebrate with kids. I'm sure it will be loud.

Very loud ;D 
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 09:05:09 AM
DR Laura, let us know how loud it was :)
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 09:05:36 AM
Hurricane Priscilla is visiting us this weekend. I just hope we don't get all the rain in a couple of hours, like last time.

Vibes you get just the right amount of rain.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 09:06:34 AM
THREE!

(https://afremov.com/media/catalog/product/Three%20Red%20Unbrellas%201099_30x30.jpg)
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: elmore3003 on October 11, 2025, 09:39:52 AM
Hail Caesar!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: ChasSmith on October 11, 2025, 09:49:48 AM
“I feel like I was born knowing the phrase "Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops"… Same!

My dad was a Fiedler connoisseur. One I remember best was Offenbach’s Gaîté parisienne. I was most intrigued by the LP cover.

Wow! How could I forget THAT classic? If I'm remembering right -- is this the one they recorded a second time, but the first one is supposed to be the more impressive recording?
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 10:15:20 AM
From DR Rodzinski:

Quote
Where I live will be divided as people either root for Seattle, the closest team, or Toronto, the one Canadian team.

Do you care who wins?  I'm thinking maybe your family prefers Toronto.

Do not care except in these times a Canadian World Series champ would be a thorn in the side of certain psychopaths.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 10:21:07 AM
“I feel like I was born knowing the phrase "Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops"… Same!

My dad was a Fiedler connoisseur. One I remember best was Offenbach’s Gaîté parisienne. I was most intrigued by the LP cover.

Wow! How could I forget THAT classic? If I'm remembering right -- is this the one they recorded a second time, but the first one is supposed to be the more impressive recording?

Good Q. I know we had a 2nd version on just one LP side with Khachaturian taking up the other side. Looks like they had a version out in 1947 as well.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 10:51:58 AM
Today is Grandson's birthday party -- a kids' party at a kid venue. I've enjoyed the family celebrations. But it is time for him to celebrate with kids. I'm sure it will be loud.

Hope everyone has a great time!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:05:36 AM
SHILLING FOR YOUTUBE VIEWS POST AHEAD -

A Columbus Day and Indigenous Peoples' Day tradition.

This asks the parody question:  Even with the objections to Columbus, can we all agree that we still want to keep the 3-day weekend?

"They're All Dissing Christopher Columbus" -
to tune of "They All Laughed (at Christopher Columbus)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hQBFXK4vTw



That's great, Freddie! ;D
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:07:08 AM
Weather-wise, we're still getting that nor'easter tomorrow night through Monday morning, but its path is such that it shouldn't be a rough one in these parts. Knock wood that remains the case.

~~~Vibes for Calm Weather for ChasSmith!!~~~
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:11:13 AM
Hail Caesar!
(https://www.haineshisway.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8112.0;attach=27654)

:))
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Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:13:11 AM
Wordle 1,575 6/6

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🟩🟩🟩⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

::)

Whew!

Whew is right!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:13:39 AM
THREE!

(https://afremov.com/media/catalog/product/Three%20Red%20Unbrellas%201099_30x30.jpg)

Very nice, Jane.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:14:14 AM
Hail Caesar!
(https://www.haineshisway.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8112.0;attach=27656)

:))
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: MichaelG on October 11, 2025, 11:16:08 AM
Book sale was okay. Sold 10 copies. The place was fun. Lively. I want to return.

Congratulations on the book signing success, DR John G!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: MichaelG on October 11, 2025, 11:19:34 AM
I'm back from our opening night. The performance went splendidly, the orgy scene was great fun as always, and the cookies all disappeared at the cast party afterwards. Saturday is an off day, then we have a Sunday matinee. Good night!

How did the scenery deal with the collapsing temple?

The two pillars are set up to slant sideways when tugged by the chains. Projections take care of the rest, with the stage blacked out.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: MichaelG on October 11, 2025, 11:19:58 AM
 Getting the timing right on that was extensively rehearsed at tech rehearsals, as was the scene change from the dungeon to the temple where the pillars get flown in and set up.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: ChasSmith on October 11, 2025, 12:14:11 PM
Holy moly.

RIP - Diane Keaton, 79
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 12:24:21 PM
From DR Rodzinski:

Quote
Where I live will be divided as people either root for Seattle, the closest team, or Toronto, the one Canadian team.

Do you care who wins?  I'm thinking maybe your family prefers Toronto.

Do not care except in these times a Canadian World Series champ would be a thorn in the side of certain psychopaths.

;D
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 12:25:09 PM
THREE!


Very nice, Jane.

Thank you.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 12:25:38 PM
Holy moly.

RIP - Diane Keaton, 79

 :'(
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 12:34:10 PM
Just read about Diane Keaton. Too young.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 12:34:39 PM
Did all my little errands - banking, mail place, Gelson's.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 12:35:07 PM
Came home and made faux chicken stroganoff and ate it - feeling VERY full right now.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 12:35:48 PM
Guess I'll go sit on my couch and see what's what.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 12:40:46 PM
SHILLING FOR YOUTUBE VIEWS POST AHEAD -

A Columbus Day and Indigenous Peoples' Day tradition.

This asks the parody question:  Even with the objections to Columbus, can we all agree that we still want to keep the 3-day weekend?

"They're All Dissing Christopher Columbus" -
to tune of "They All Laughed (at Christopher Columbus)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hQBFXK4vTw



That's great, Freddie! ;D


Thanks, George!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 12:41:51 PM
Holy moly.

RIP - Diane Keaton, 79


:(


Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 01:00:47 PM
I wonder if we could get to page 4 before 4 pm (Eastern)


Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 01:01:01 PM
It might be possible.


Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 01:01:11 PM
Page 4 is not that far away.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 01:01:30 PM
I can almost see it from here.
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Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 01:01:43 PM
PAGE FOUR
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Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 01:02:09 PM
not before 4 pm (eastern), but close enough.
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Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 01:21:32 PM
Getting plants this morning.

One can never have enough plants.

There was no plant sale today. (Insert unhappy face.)
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 01:25:03 PM
Holy moly.

RIP - Diane Keaton, 79

Oh, no. She was one of my favorites. Her Faith Dunlop in Shoot the Moon is one of my all-time favorite performances.
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Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 01:28:16 PM
Diane sings Cole Porter in Radio Days.

https://youtu.be/BvW9nB8uEHc?si=F-Uq1mKXRjPxeZgG
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Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 01:41:47 PM
Today is the of Banned Books Week. In honor of that, I read Harbor Me by Jacqueline Woodson. There’s no reason this book has been banned
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jrand75 on October 11, 2025, 01:46:10 PM
I like Diane Keaton and love her in just about everything....

A few years ago she wrote a memoir about her relationship with her younger brother that was so cock-eyed and tone deaf......I had to step away.
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Post by: ChasSmith on October 11, 2025, 02:11:54 PM
Just read about Diane Keaton. Too young.

ABSOLUTELY.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 02:32:46 PM
In Austin, the opera company is staging Fiddler on the Roof. I think it’s a great choice. I hope I have the time to see it.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Laura on October 11, 2025, 02:38:27 PM
Good afternoon.
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Post by: Laura on October 11, 2025, 02:38:47 PM
It was very loud. The kids and Aunt Sassy had a great time.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Laura on October 11, 2025, 02:39:43 PM
The thing I liked best about his party is that there were white kids, there were black kids, there were Asian kids, there were Latino kids. They are all friends.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 02:49:31 PM
Getting plants this morning.

One can never have enough plants.

There was no plant sale today. (Insert unhappy face.)

Sorry.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 02:50:51 PM
Diane sings Cole Porter in Radio Days.

https://youtu.be/BvW9nB8uEHc?si=F-Uq1mKXRjPxeZgG

Thank you for this clip.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 03:11:58 PM
Today is the of Banned Books Week. In honor of that, I read Harbor Me by Jacqueline Woodson. There’s no reason this book has been banned

A good choice.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 03:12:18 PM
I like Diane Keaton and love her in just about everything....

A few years ago she wrote a memoir about her relationship with her younger brother that was so cock-eyed and tone deaf......I had to step away.

 :o
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 03:16:49 PM
It was very loud. The kids and Aunt Sassy had a great time.

:)
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 03:17:01 PM
The thing I liked best about his party is that there were white kids, there were black kids, there were Asian kids, there were Latino kids. They are all friends.

:)
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 03:18:36 PM
Keith also got Wordle in six.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 04:13:51 PM
Holy moly.

RIP - Diane Keaton, 79

Oh, no! :(
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 04:14:55 PM
I like Diane Keaton and love her in just about everything....

A few years ago she wrote a memoir about her relationship with her younger brother that was so cock-eyed and tone deaf......I had to step away.

Interesting. :-\
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 04:15:29 PM
The thing I liked best about his party is that there were white kids, there were black kids, there were Asian kids, there were Latino kids. They are all friends.

That's wonderful!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 04:18:19 PM
Keith also got Wordle in six.

Whew, two!!
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Post by: Jane on October 11, 2025, 04:22:14 PM

Yup.  At least you both got it.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 06:22:01 PM
Goodness, gracious, you'd think this was a holiday weekend.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 06:22:13 PM
One movie finished.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 06:22:23 PM
Will do another.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2025, 06:52:52 PM
Millstone alert for John G!  You're getting close to 104,000 posts.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: ChasSmith on October 11, 2025, 07:01:11 PM
October 11, 1975:

Fifty years ago tonight, to the day and date, the debut of SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 07:10:25 PM
Millstone alert for John G!  You're getting close to 104,000 posts.

Yes, but not tonight.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 07:10:39 PM
Five!
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Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 07:12:11 PM
Blueberry Delight
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 07:12:27 PM
The pie was a big hit.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 07:13:04 PM
It’s also the easiest no-bake pie.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 07:14:20 PM
Back to The Triple Echo, which is headed towards a depressing conclusion.
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Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 07:24:25 PM
I love blueberries, but can the pie be adapted to other fruit flavors as well?
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Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 07:26:04 PM
Of course. The topping is blueberry pie filling. Top with your favorite. Cherry would be great.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 07:31:38 PM
MAN ARRESTED FOR STEALING SEAWEED.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 07:31:54 PM
Turns out he's a kelptomaniac.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 07:43:21 PM
True
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 07:43:39 PM
And also true
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 07:44:03 PM
Good night, friends.
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Post by: singdaw on October 11, 2025, 07:44:09 PM
And others.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 07:55:57 PM
After the depressing finale of The Triple Echo, it’s on to the ludicrous Hitting a New High with Lily Pons, Jackie Oakie, Edward Everett Horton, Eric Blore and some racist stereotypes.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 09:19:38 PM
DR Rodzinski, on our Thanksgiving day, when the kids go to school do the grownups have a nice alone day?

We’ll probably keep them home this year.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: John G. on October 11, 2025, 09:21:58 PM
Good night, all.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:34:13 PM
Finished with my viewing.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:35:41 PM
Faux stroganoff was tasty.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:35:53 PM
For snack a little salad.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:36:09 PM
For treat a little vanilla frozen yogurt.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:36:19 PM
All pills taken.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:36:29 PM
And yet, page five.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:36:42 PM
I didn't even realize it was a holiday weekend.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:36:58 PM
And yet, it is.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:37:05 PM
It cannot be denied.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:37:13 PM
Go know.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:37:32 PM
Go ahead, deny it.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:37:39 PM
You just try it.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:37:48 PM
You could fry it.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:37:55 PM
Of fly it.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:38:02 PM
Or buy it.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:38:33 PM
Or tie it.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:38:43 PM
Or hie it.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:38:57 PM
Or just be quiet.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:39:08 PM
Meanwhile - page six.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 11, 2025, 10:39:19 PM
Now - get me off this damn page.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 10:49:13 PM
Page 7 is possible
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:24:52 PM
With a little name association.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:25:07 PM
Ray Collins
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:25:18 PM
Colin Farrell
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:25:28 PM
Pharrell
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:26:16 PM
Conchata Ferrell
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:26:36 PM
Maria Conchita Alonso
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:26:55 PM
Alphonso Ribeiro
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:27:16 PM
Arthur Fonzarelli
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:27:30 PM
Bea Arthur
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:27:55 PM
Bea Benaderet
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:29:27 PM
Benny Goodman
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:30:29 PM
Manuel Ferrer
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:31:22 PM
Luis Buñuel
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:31:36 PM
Bun E. Carlos
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:31:56 PM
Carlos Santana
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:32:27 PM
Dan Tana
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:32:48 PM
Tania Roberts
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:33:22 PM
Robert Stigwood
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:33:33 PM
Woody Allen
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:34:17 PM
Alan Parker
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:34:34 PM
Parker Braithewaite
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:34:51 PM
Ralph Waite
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:35:22 PM
Mick Jagger
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:35:34 PM
Dean Jagger
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:35:47 PM
Jimmy Dean
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:36:05 PM
Dean Jones
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Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:36:29 PM
I’ll leave it there at Dean Jones.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:42:16 PM
Millstone alert for John G!  You're getting close to 104,000 posts.

Yes, but not tonight.

Darn. :-\
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:42:26 PM
;)
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Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:42:42 PM
Hello, Rodzinski!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:43:16 PM
October 11, 1975:

Fifty years ago tonight, to the day and date, the debut of SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE.

Wow! 
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Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:43:32 PM
Both days were Saturdays.
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Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:44:10 PM
I wonder how tonight's episode will celebrate it.
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Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:44:53 PM
I no longer have cable TV, so I can't watch it live...from New York! ;D
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Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:45:36 PM
Blueberry Delight
(https://www.haineshisway.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8112.0;attach=27658)

Yum! :D
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:45:51 PM
The pie was a big hit.

Congrats, John!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:46:19 PM
It’s also the easiest no-bake pie.

How convenient!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:46:31 PM
Here are the Voices of Walter Schumann performing That Old Black Magic from the LP Not a Word Was Spoken, which features zero lyrics.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vGaRt61URu0&list=RDvGaRt61URu0&start_radio=1&pp=ygUaV2FsdGVyIHNjaHVtYW5uIG5vdCBhIHdvcmSgBwE%3D
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:47:18 PM
Hiya, G!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:47:24 PM
MAN ARRESTED FOR STEALING SEAWEED.
Turns out he's a kelptomaniac.

MUST...
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:47:32 PM
...NOT...
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:47:42 PM
...GROAN!!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:47:54 PM
:o
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 11, 2025, 11:48:11 PM
Gratuitous Post #200!! :D
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: Rodzinski on October 11, 2025, 11:49:26 PM
BK, you put out that Panic in Needle Park CD while Ned Roden was still alive. Was he involved? Did he have any feedback?
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 12, 2025, 12:07:46 AM
Here are the Voices of Walter Schumann performing That Old Black Magic from the LP Not a Word Was Spoken, which features zero lyrics.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vGaRt61URu0&list=RDvGaRt61URu0&start_radio=1&pp=ygUaV2FsdGVyIHNjaHVtYW5uIG5vdCBhIHdvcmSgBwE%3D

Very nice version.
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Post by: George on October 12, 2025, 12:09:28 AM
One of my absolute favorite versions is by Janis Siegel (now formerly) of The Manhattan Transfer from one of her solo CDs.  It's predominantly in 5/4!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cwCVvf125Wk (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cwCVvf125Wk)

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Post by: George on October 12, 2025, 12:11:15 AM
This video was "Auto-generated by YouTube."  I think it's from a jazz compilation.
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Post by: George on October 12, 2025, 12:13:21 AM
True
(https://www.haineshisway.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8112.0;attach=27659)

Very true!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 12, 2025, 12:14:13 AM
And also true
(https://www.haineshisway.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8112.0;attach=27661)

Definitely! ;D
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 12, 2025, 12:28:09 AM
Benny Goodman

I used to know a guy in college named Benny, but his real name wasn't Benjamin.  It was Benton.  Pretty cool, huh?
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 12, 2025, 12:28:38 AM
Ned Rorem was very grateful - wrote me a nice note. I went on a deep dive with his music and liked most of what I heard. I also have a signed copy of his book The Nantucket Diary.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 12, 2025, 12:28:48 AM
New notes are up.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 12, 2025, 12:28:55 AM
Up are new notes.
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Post by: George on October 12, 2025, 12:29:03 AM
Manuel Ferrer

Miguel Ferrar.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 12, 2025, 12:29:03 AM
I've seen them.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 12, 2025, 12:29:13 AM
I've read them.
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Post by: bk on October 12, 2025, 12:29:19 AM
I wrote them.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 12, 2025, 12:29:42 AM
I’ll leave it there at Dean Jones.

Good one. :)
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 12, 2025, 12:29:52 AM
And I got .93 back from PayPal.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 12, 2025, 12:30:02 AM
Exciting.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: bk on October 12, 2025, 12:30:14 AM
It'll take a while to spend it.
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 12, 2025, 12:31:21 AM
Ned Rorem was very grateful - wrote me a nice note. I went on a deep dive with his music and liked most of what I heard. I also have a signed copy of his book The Nantucket Diary.

Very cool!
Title: Re: A FAREWELL TO ARMS
Post by: George on October 12, 2025, 12:31:49 AM
It'll take a while to spend it.

Don't spend it all in one place! :))