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« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2004, 08:30:22 AM »

OH, Jack, what a sweetie you are!.  I have to go to work now, and I didn't have enough time to do a search or buy.   I'll make it up to you.  ;>)
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« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2004, 08:30:47 AM »

DRDANISE what are you going to hold in your picture for Valentine's day?
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« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2004, 08:38:37 AM »

A heart?  A dozen roses?  A single rose?  The key to someones heart?

Hummmm.   I'll have to think about it.  It WON'T be a box of chocolates!   :)

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« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2004, 08:42:01 AM »

Wow!  "Ivanhoe" is on TCM right now.  Robert Taylor, Elizabeth Taylor, George Sanders...and the beautiful Joan Fontaine....

What a great movie.  One of my favorite books made into a perfect show!

We got color TV in 1961 to see "Bonanza" of course...and all the other NBC shows....Kraft Music Hall, Perry Como, Sing Along With Mitch, and later Hollywood Palace and Lawrence Welk....and then the dramas The FBI and Mod Squad and of course Batman!
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2004, 08:47:38 AM »

Interesting how threads come together. I just finished Judy Holliday's biography (sent to me by a friend who I hope is back in the saddle and will no doubt comment on that very expression).

On Kim Novak (with whom JH starred in Phfft!):
Holliday, Lemmon, and Novak attended an automobile show ... All three posed with some of the automobile people, and then the photographers started shouting for some solo shots of Novak, who was nearly bursting out of a low-cut black taffeta dress [a sort of LiB reference]. She was also carrying a small black purse, which, without a murmur of apology, she thrust into Judy's hands as she walked off to join the photographers. Holliday was flabbergasted. A Columbia producer standing next to her chuckled and then whispered, "they sure learn fast in this town!" ... After a pause, Judy snapped back: "They grow them on the back lot - where the cabbage patch used to be."

On Dean Martin (and I agree that his laidback performance was right on the money) and the filming of Bells Are Ringing:
"Dean Martin ... remained good-natured though he let it be known that he thought the role of Jeff Moss was a waste of his time and talent."

And on Dream Girl (Judy Holliday starred in a limited run of the play):
"Holliday told an interviewer that she had always longed to play [the role]. Judy found something of herself in Georgina, and later she would be attracted to roles that were variations of Rice's dream heroine, most notably ... Ella Peterson in Bells Are Ringing. She liked characters ... who struggled to live their lives as responsibly and creatively as possible."
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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2004, 08:49:22 AM »

Good morning. I honestly don't much care about "stuff." I think the root of that is in my childhood when we just closed the door of our apartment,  left everything we owned behind us, and escaped from Hungary with one suitcase. That was a tremendous life lesson. But if there were ONE thing that I would bid on on eBay, it would be the teddy bear my father gave me before he died, which I took with me on said escape (several escapes, actually - because we got caught a few times), holding onto it for dear life --- and promptly lost in Vienna. Some fat Austrian has my teddy and I want it back!!!

At some point when I have time later today, I'll add to DR Robin Anderson's story about the signed "Star Trek cast" he lost. Although I'm not a Star Trek fan, I have a bit of Scottie (James Doohan) memorabilia which has an interesting story from my youth (age 14) behind it. Later.
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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2004, 08:56:48 AM »

Oh - and funny parodies in the Notes! I laughed and laughed!  ;D ;D
(The illustration is of laughed AND laughed. I'm a very literal person.)
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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2004, 09:05:48 AM »

What I want back from my past are certain people, but I know that e-bay doesn't do that.  As for things, probably my complete set of SHW BUSINESS ILLUSTRATED (a magazine I mentioned the other day) which I had to throw out along with many other things when I moved to a smaller apartment.  I have no idea what I would pay for them.

The mention of Admiral televisions reminds me of a story Sid Caeser tells in his new autobiography.  Admiral was his first sponser and everyone was surprised when they cancelled the show.  A short time later the president of the Admiral company invited Sid to lunch and explained that their show was such a success that Admiral could not keep up the demand for new Admiral televisions so they took the money they had been using to sponsor the show and bought a new factory to help meet the demand.  It was probably the only time a show was cancelled because it was too successful!
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« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2004, 09:08:26 AM »



Too twisted for color tv!
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« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2004, 09:10:16 AM »

I have some "Star Trek" con stories as well.

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« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2004, 09:18:17 AM »

DR WEL I am looking at your quote.....you knew of course that when Deborah Kerr and John Kerr left the OBC of TEA AND SYMPATHY they were replaced by Joan Fontaine and Tony Perkins.  I would love to have seen them do those roles.
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« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2004, 09:30:01 AM »

Lovely postings for a Saturday morning.  Our very own Pogue will be here momentarily to rescue me from she of the Evil Eye and then we're going to spend a couple of hours at the book fair.  Then I shall return and I shall post ad nauseum, with an emphasis on the latter.
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« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2004, 09:55:08 AM »

The one item I've been missing the last few months is my old four-poster bed frame.  It was originally my Grandfather's, and a personal treasure.  So who needs ebay, when I've already got what I want.

Now what I need is a good bottle of glue.  The top knob on one of the posts of the footboard has snapped off, and needs to be put back to where it belongs.  At least der Brucer's son in law had enough sense to pocket it and return it.  (Now if he only had had enough sense from the start to take more care of how he was loading and unloading the truck.  Grrrr.)
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« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2004, 09:59:34 AM »

Dear DR Tomovoz:  Exactly when did your DVD of Big Fish arrive?  The official theatrical release date of the film in Australia was Thursday, Feb. 5th, just two days ago.  What I fear is that you have a pirated copy of the film, with the quality failures that are inherent in things pirated.  

Of course, if the film wasn't your cup of tea, then it wasn't your cup of tea, and nothing can change that.
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« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2004, 10:01:54 AM »

JRAND - I too would have loved to see the replacement cast of TEA & SYMPATHY except that with Mr. Perkins in the role the whole plot premise of "Is he gay or isn't he?" would have lost its meaning, as it was so obvious.
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« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2004, 10:11:03 AM »

MY gosh how could I forget THE VIRGINIAN - 90 minutes in color 7:30-9 pm every Wednesday night!
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« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2004, 10:52:04 AM »

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]~~~~~~Many Good (belated) Vibes to TD and his father!~~~~~~[/move]

And in my CD player (it arrived in my mailbox yesterday and I didn't get it until late):

Our Wedding: The Musical
written by our very own Noel Katz and starring our very own Noel Katz and our very own Joy Dewing (Katz)!!!  I've only listened to about half of it (the first half) and it's great!  I have to go to work today and will listen to the rest of it.  Thanks!  (In case anyone didn't know, you can get your very own copy at www.weddingmusical.com.)  I highly recommend it!  

And (finally), today is Charles Dickens' birthday.  If he were still alive, he'd be 192 years old!  ;D  Just had to share.
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« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2004, 11:06:25 AM »

I really have to think about what I'd want from eBay.  My problem is that I don't really remember what I wanted when I was younger, but I would like a couple of musicals on CD (although I don't think I'd pay top dollar for them):

Petula Clark's The Sound of Music (the first musical recorded digitally) and the 1974 Broadway revival of Candide with Lewis J. Stadlen as Pangloss.

Actually, a friend of mine wants these and I said that I'd copy my records, but it was after I said that, that I discovered how bad that my records were.  They’re too scratched with too many pops to make good enough CDs from them.  So at this moment, that's what I'd get from eBay...unless some kind person here at HHW has these and is willing to trade?  ::)
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« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2004, 11:06:50 AM »

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Ah, but here's a question or three: if Dickens were still with us today, would he be embracing the Internet, or would he be an technophobe?  Would he be pleased or appalled by the world he would see around him?  And would he still be walking around on his own, or would he have said at some point "Aw, screw it!" and bought one of those scooter-type wheelchairs that are constantly advertised on television?
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« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2004, 11:15:20 AM »

Ah, but here's a question or three: if Dickens were still with us today, would he be embracing the Internet, or would he be an technophobe?  Would he be pleased or appalled by the world he would see around him?  And would he still be walking around on his own, or would he have said at some point "Aw, screw it!" and bought one of those scooter-type wheelchairs that are constantly advertised on television?

Of course, there's no way to tell.  I would hope that if someone had lived through all of the modernizations and advances of the last 200 years (unlike the rest of us who know that we have a limited life span), they would be able to (have to?) embrace change easily.  Maybe he'd be the kind of person to have one of these:
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« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2004, 11:17:41 AM »

And Woody, six more posts and you become a HainesHisWay GOD!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2004, 11:19:15 AM »

For those who expressed an interest, I've just uploaded the somewhat lengthy but hopefully fascinating massive update to my article debunking some of the myths about Frances Farmer (it will be formally published on the official Farmer website later, but this is your chance for a free preview).  This has been the culmination of many years of research in conjunction with the Farmers and DR JR, to name a few.  It's at:

http://hometown.aol.com/jmkauffman/sheddinglight.html

If anyone does drop by to read it, could you do me a favor and let me know if the "smart tags" and other automatic Word features designed to drive one mad (interesting considering the subject matter!) show up on your end?  They are showing up on mine, despite having been turned off in the original document.  I'm wondering if this is some great new-fangled update to Explorer or something.  Drop me an email at:

jmkauffman@aol.com

with feedback on the formatting or anything else.
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« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2004, 11:20:47 AM »

Star Trek story as promised:

When I was 14, living in Toronto, and just dying to be a professional actress, I decided that the simplest thing was to make the CBC aware of my talents. Once they knew, they'd hire me and I'd become a star. Piece of cake. (Remember - I was 14. What the hell did I know of the real world of show business?)
So I looked under "Canadian Broadcasting Corporation" in the phone book, called and asked what I had to do to act in shows. The bored government operator switched me to the Casting Department. The bored receptionist at that end said, "We'll send you a form. " One of thousands filled out every month, I'm sure.
I waited eagerly for the form which would make me a star. It arrived, I filled it out. I had no headshot - didn't really know what that was - so I sent a school photo. Then I waited for them to call me. And do you know something? About a week later, they did. They asked me to come in for an audition.
Now, I had no idea at the time that this was about as close to a miracle as I was ever to see in my lifetime. I just assumed it was the way things worked.
So I went in. It so happened that they were casting for an episode of FESTIVAL, which was a fabulous weekly hour or hour and a half of top quality drama or musical programming. The best actors, musicians, directors. I'm talking Genevieve Bujold, Glenn Gould, people of that ilk.
For this original drama, THE LABYRINTH, written by Charles Israel (writer of THE MARK) they needed girls around 14 who were in a group home for disturbed kids. I read, I got cast. Just as planned,
So the rehearsals began and I was in heaven. The group home in the play (based on Warrendale, a real place) used the for then modern method of getting the kids to regress back to unhappy abusive childhoods and relive them in a happier way. One method was to take these teenage girls and offer them baby bottles while they were held and comforted by a social worker. Something they never had in childhood. There was a scene which called for just such a moment and the director said, "Girls, who thinks they can do it?" My hand shot up instantly - my moment to shine - and we rehearsed the scene. After the rehearsal, just before it was to be shot, the director said, "Anna doesn't look like she really wants that bottle. Anybody else?" I had no chance to do it again! And I was too new and young to say, "Hey, give me an opportunity to try it your way!" He just picked someone else and she was the one seen in that moment in the film. My first show business heartbreak.
Fast forward many years and I'm an adult, now a writer, in a bookstore, browsing through the Film and Theater section. Suddenly I see "The Labyrinth." I never knew a book existed of the screenplay. I open it up and it's filled with photos of the production -- including one of ME in the arms of the actor playing the social worker as I drink from the baby bottle! They must've taken the photo at the rehearsal -- and now I was forever frozen in time in a book in that moment. Vindication! And what has all this got to do with Star Trek, DR's? The actor playing the social worker, in whose arms the 14-year-old me is guzzling down a baby bottle of milk, was James Doohan, later to be immortalized as Scottie in Star Trek.
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« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2004, 11:56:06 AM »

Interesting how threads come together. I just finished Judy Holliday's biography (sent to me by a friend who I hope is back in the saddle and will no doubt comment on that very expression).


And on Dream Girl (Judy Holliday starred in a limited run of the play):
"Holliday told an interviewer that she had always longed to play [the role]. Judy found something of herself in Georgina, and later she would be attracted to roles that were variations of Rice's dream heroine, most notably ... Ella Peterson in Bells Are Ringing. She liked characters ... who struggled to live their lives as responsibly and creatively as possible."


Oh God, Dream Girl.   I had forgotten that Judy appeared in that show.  Was she the Diana Ross character?

Oh, and as for being back in the saddle, DR Dan, well............ they shoot horses don't they?
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« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2004, 12:01:07 PM »

Thank you JoseSPiano.  I’m trying.

SWW we have had similar dining experience (without the food sharing) in Europe, but very few in the States.  I hope this continues to be a regular event for you.

I want my postcard from Davy Crockett back which was lost in one of our moves.  My original 45 of the song would be nice to have with it.  Early on the record was scratched & I loved the result.  It would go Davy, Davy Crockett then hiccup before continuing with king of the wild frontier.

WEL thanks for the interesting Sid Caesar story.

And from Panni, more fascinating stories into your childhood. :)
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« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2004, 12:04:51 PM »

Lovely postings for a Saturday morning.  Our very own Pogue will be here momentarily to rescue me from she of the Evil Eye and then we're going to spend a couple of hours at the book fair.  Then I shall return and I shall post ad nauseum, with an emphasis on the latter.

I must confess that I have never been to a book fair.  Do they have book roller coasters and book Ferris wheels, or is it more like the Old-Fashioned County Book Fairs?
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« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2004, 12:08:51 PM »



And (finally), today is Charles Dickens' birthday.  If he were still alive, he'd be 192 years old!  ;D  Just had to share.

So would I.
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« Reply #57 on: February 07, 2004, 12:11:39 PM »

For what it's a worth: For me the film had no dramatic tension - you always knew what what happen - and was basically saccharin sweet like Gump. Certainly the actors were fine and the filming was fine - the story was not.
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« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2004, 12:26:03 PM »

I was just looking at the calendar for March & noticed there is an option to post events.  Who can remove events?  It was nice to see Echo’s birthday is on the calendar, however, she will be loaded with birthday wishes since she is on there for nine days in a row.  On the ninth, she will be nine years old.
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« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2004, 12:35:53 PM »

When my boys were young I was very active in their schools.  One of my favorite volunteer jobs was the annual book fair at their elementary school in Pennsylvania.  I had a great time helping the children choose books.  I think I also helped a number of them when they ran short of money. I couldn't resist a cute kid with a good book.  :D
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