Oddly specific...
I know so little about plants and gardening that usually when DR John G. mentions something, I choose to think that it's a made-up name.
News Flash I was incorrect last night.....it wasn't Kitty Kallan it was Kay Starr.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moGESHNx4Ak&list=RDmoGESHNx4Ak&start_radio=1