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Title: JERKY CAM
Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 12:03:10 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes were jerky, and now it is time for you to post until the jerky cows come home - otherwise known as beef jerky.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 12:03:56 AM
And the word of the day is: CASUISTRY!
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Post by: George on May 09, 2012, 12:42:26 AM
I just became a Kickstarter backer for BD Wong's live recording of Skip's Herringbone (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/484701422/bd-wong-live-concert-recording-of-the-musical-herr). :)
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Post by: FJL on May 09, 2012, 04:07:28 AM
I just became a Kickstarter backer for BD Wong's live recording of Skip's Herringbone (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/484701422/bd-wong-live-concert-recording-of-the-musical-herr). :)


Skip says thanks so much, George!     


(It's an interesting approach that they're taking!)
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 04:41:27 AM
Good morning, all.
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Post by: Ben on May 09, 2012, 04:46:16 AM
Morning all.

That is all.
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2012, 04:56:07 AM
Good morning, all!  Another bad night of sleep, thanks to all this madness concerning this man in LA who wants an acknowledgement for all of his work I'd appropriated in my recording notes. Yesterday afternoon, I got a fawning, rather smarmy email from him about our previous friendly discourses on Herbert, period style, etc. I found it all interesting since I hadn't communicated with this person since 2008; I did try a couple of years ago in Feb. 2010 to reach him, as did the Library of Congress, but he had relocated and certainly never bothered to provide me, or them, with a new email address to contact him.

Unfortunately for him, he had attached his original email in which he never yells plagiarism, but certainly makes it clear that I didn't have an original thought in my notes since they all came from his research, lectures, etc. It certainly negates all of his good cheer in his email to me. So, after several hours thought, I decided I didn't want to capitulate and give in to what is essentially emotional blackmail; why is he so desperate to be acknowledged? It all creeps me out and pisses me off.

This morning, I am back to Toyland to wait for Fed Ex to cart some boxes to the Library of Congress. While waiting, I shall edit a few scores for ROBERTA.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: FJL on May 09, 2012, 05:13:15 AM

why is he so desperate to be acknowledged? It all creeps me out and pisses me off.



Larry, do you mean you really don't understand his personal or professional need to be acknowledged or thanked - or do you suspect an ulterior motive?  If it's the latter, that you suspect an ulterior motive that he will point to the thanks and get something financial out of you, get something in writing (like have him send you an e-mail) that if you thank him, it is not a sign that he is due any authorship or money, just to make this all go away in an amicable manner.
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Post by: FJL on May 09, 2012, 05:16:43 AM
Ooh, Larry is only 33 posts away from a major major milestone!!!!!!!!
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Post by: FJL on May 09, 2012, 05:17:00 AM
Or is that old news?
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Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 06:08:36 AM
Family starts arriving today for our niece's impending graduation from Reed (my old alma mater).
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Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 06:09:19 AM
I am listening to Alex North's score for The Shoes of the Fisherman.  I burst out laughing when the waltz theme started--I had an image of the Pope dancing around the Vatican.  :)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 06:10:28 AM
Good morning, all!  Another bad night of sleep, thanks to all this madness concerning this man in LA who wants an acknowledgement for all of his work I'd appropriated in my recording notes. Yesterday afternoon, I got a fawning, rather smarmy email from him about our previous friendly discourses on Herbert, period style, etc. I found it all interesting since I hadn't communicated with this person since 2008; I did try a couple of years ago in Feb. 2010 to reach him, as did the Library of Congress, but he had relocated and certainly never bothered to provide me, or them, with a new email address to contact him.

Unfortunately for him, he had attached his original email in which he never yells plagiarism, but certainly makes it clear that I didn't have an original thought in my notes since they all came from his research, lectures, etc. It certainly negates all of his good cheer in his email to me. So, after several hours thought, I decided I didn't want to capitulate and give in to what is essentially emotional blackmail; why is he so desperate to be acknowledged? It all creeps me out and pisses me off.

This morning, I am back to Toyland to wait for Fed Ex to cart some boxes to the Library of Congress. While waiting, I shall edit a few scores for ROBERTA.

If this happens, then DR JMK can ask for acknowledgement on any Frances Farmer article, post, or commentary since MOST use his information (and by extension some of mine) - and every web story on Allison Hayes should mention me, since the publication of my Inner Web BIO of her, every article mentions information published first in my research....and usually some of my photos (cropped as I cropped them) as well.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 06:10:56 AM
I am listening to Alex North's score for The Shoes of the Fisherman.  I burst out laughing when the waltz theme started--I had an image of the Pope dancing around the Vatican.  :)

Did it look a lot like the photo DR ELMORE posted yesterday?  ;D
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 06:28:36 AM
Good morning, all!  Another bad night of sleep, thanks to all this madness concerning this man in LA who wants an acknowledgement for all of his work I'd appropriated in my recording notes. Yesterday afternoon, I got a fawning, rather smarmy email from him about our previous friendly discourses on Herbert, period style, etc. I found it all interesting since I hadn't communicated with this person since 2008; I did try a couple of years ago in Feb. 2010 to reach him, as did the Library of Congress, but he had relocated and certainly never bothered to provide me, or them, with a new email address to contact him.

Unfortunately for him, he had attached his original email in which he never yells plagiarism, but certainly makes it clear that I didn't have an original thought in my notes since they all came from his research, lectures, etc. It certainly negates all of his good cheer in his email to me. So, after several hours thought, I decided I didn't want to capitulate and give in to what is essentially emotional blackmail; why is he so desperate to be acknowledged? It all creeps me out and pisses me off.

This morning, I am back to Toyland to wait for Fed Ex to cart some boxes to the Library of Congress. While waiting, I shall edit a few scores for ROBERTA.

If this happens, then DR JMK can ask for acknowledgement on any Frances Farmer article, post, or commentary since MOST use his information (and by extension some of mine) - and every web story on Allison Hayes should mention me, since the publication of my Inner Web BIO of her, every article mentions information published first in my research....and usually some of my photos (cropped as I cropped them) as well.

Oh, believe me, I've asked.   ;D  My first real inkling of what this grand new internet age was all about was when a bitch admin on Wikipedia purloined all of my research on Frances for Wikipedia's article, but she got some stuff wrong.  When I tried to get it corrected, she set up a fake account for herself, accused me of having done it, and then got me banned.  I actually emailed Jimbo Wales and gave him the story, and I was reinstated but it left me with a really bad taste in my mouth.  It's one of the reasons I've advised BK and others not to take the bait on these online forums and get involved in conflicts.  It's like arguing with a friggin brick wall.  Except brick walls are more intelligent.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 06:32:16 AM
I bought a camera on EBAY, so we shall see if it arrives and if it works.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 06:32:53 AM
Amen DR JMK.

Like the claim that one member of a band whose name I will not mention on a family site was the son of Allison Hayes and Gavin MacCleod.....ridiculous.....although he finally took that information off Wikipedia.  :P
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 06:33:03 AM
My allergic reaction to this scented screener has gone from bad to worse.  The entire end of my nose swelled up yesterday and became extremely painful.  I soaked it last night, but it's still red and sensitive (kind of like Frances, LOL).  :)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 06:35:59 AM
I just received my shipping notification from Home Depot that this ultracool waterfall fountain I ordered for our courtyard entrance here at Chez K is on its way:

Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 06:37:55 AM
Just add water.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 06:41:04 AM
Well....politics is a dirty business....

The Democrats could NEVER defeat Richard Lugar.....never.....and so I am sure (and I know people who did this) - several Democrats asked for Republican ballots in the primary yesterday to vote for his opponent on the Republican ticket....so that he will be out of the running for the Senate in November, and their candidate has a good chance to win....because said Republican candidate is someone MANY Republicans will NOT support.

Backhanded way to get him out of Washington. 
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 06:41:39 AM
Nice fountain. How tall?
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 06:42:19 AM
Well....politics is a dirty business....

The Democrats could NEVER defeat Richard Lugar.....never.....and so I am sure (and I know people who did this) - several Democrats asked for Republican ballots in the primary yesterday to vote for his opponent on the Republican ticket....so that he will be out of the running for the Senate in November, and their candidate has a good chance to win....because said Republican candidate is someone MANY Republicans will NOT support.

Backhanded way to get him out of Washington. 
All politics am ugly now. This is like the GOP running candidates as Democrats in Wisconsin.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: FJL on May 09, 2012, 06:42:53 AM

Oh, believe me, I've asked.   ;D 


Exactly, JMK.  Getting thanks and being acknowledged in any effort can matter in and of itself, as something to show friends as a point of personal pride and colleagues as a point of business stature - if you're convinced somehow that you deserve it for some reason, even with no ulterior legal motives. 

BUT if this guy is being so incredibly persistent, and if anyone in a deciding position fears an ulterior legal motive, then I'd say get it in writing that the person understands you (the person giving the thanks for the time or info or the support or whatever) feel he does NOT deserve it, but are just doing it to AVOID any legal complication rather than allow any to be created by the thanks or acknowledgment.   

And if the "thanked" person is not willing to put that in writing, that's normally a sign that he is entertaining doing something legal down the road, isn't it?
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on May 09, 2012, 06:46:10 AM
And the word of the day is: CASUISTRY!

And The Song Of The Day Is:  PRETTY LITTLE PICTURE
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Kerry on May 09, 2012, 06:46:56 AM
Wednesday greetings and Better-Than-Wednesday-Vibes to all.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on May 09, 2012, 06:53:36 AM
BK-

How Wonderful That HE and SHE Rhyme

Question-IYHO -How Do You Feel About Women or Men Singing Songs that specifically are written for a Man Or Woman without changing gender?

For Example-Tony Bennett sings-THE MAN WHO GOT AWAY as written without changing The Lyric to THE GIRL WHO GOT AWAY
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 06:54:36 AM
Nice fountain. How tall?

A little over 4 feet.  It should scale nicely in the space.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 06:55:18 AM

For Example-Tony Bennett sings-THE MAN WHO GOT AWAY as written without changing The Lyric to THE GIRL WHO GOT AWAY

I understand that's now illegal in North Carolina.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 06:56:59 AM

Oh, believe me, I've asked.   ;D 


Exactly, JMK.  Getting thanks and being acknowledged in any effort can matter in and of itself, as something to show friends as a point of personal pride and colleagues as a point of business stature - if you're convinced somehow that you deserve it for some reason, even with no ulterior legal motives. 

BUT if this guy is being so incredibly persistent, and if anyone in a deciding position fears an ulterior legal motive, then I'd say get it in writing that the person understands you (the person giving the thanks for the time or info or the support or whatever) feel he does NOT deserve it, but are just doing it to AVOID any legal complication rather than allow any to be created by the thanks or acknowledgment.   

And if the "thanked" person is not willing to put that in writing, that's normally a sign that he is entertaining doing something legal down the road, isn't it?

My particular issue may or may not be the same as what Larry is going through.  I have a copyrighted piece that broke new information and it has been used all over the place, usually without my consent.  But my bottom line has always been, I'm more about the truth being known than receiving credit for having uncovered it, so in the long run, it's relatively fine.  :)
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 07:01:45 AM
Page two!
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 07:21:27 AM
I want the credit!
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Post by: Doug R on May 09, 2012, 07:25:23 AM
I've bought a Kindle! I'd been thinking for some time about whether to get one but wasn't really sure because I like the look and feel of a book but I thought it will at least be useful when travelling.
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Post by: Doug R on May 09, 2012, 07:25:52 AM
And it's yet another dull, wet day.
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Post by: Ben on May 09, 2012, 07:31:39 AM
Rain in Manhattan
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 07:33:24 AM
Cue Twilight Zone Theme.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/world/asia/indonesia-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Ginny on May 09, 2012, 07:38:11 AM
Wednesday morning greetings!  I have a puttering day ahead before we pick up my Mom and meet Rob and Mary Linda at Montgomery Inn for our early Mother's Day celebration.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 07:39:47 AM
Speak of the Devil Department:  I just received an email inquiry about a certain actress with the subject line:  France's Farmer.
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Post by: FJL on May 09, 2012, 08:05:46 AM
I believe Deanna Durbin lives on a farm, in France.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 08:07:23 AM
I believe Deanna Durbin lives on a farm, in France.

And JR already knows that one of the lies I dispelled was about Ms. Durbin and Ms. Farmer.  :)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 08:08:06 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Your New American Idol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rhtg-v2a90)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Matthew on May 09, 2012, 08:49:06 AM
You say yes, I say no!
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Post by: Matthew on May 09, 2012, 08:49:41 AM
Hi from the faculty room.  Tired today. Wishing the day was over!!
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Post by: Matthew on May 09, 2012, 08:51:16 AM
Jerky cam - sounds like a new snack
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2012, 08:53:10 AM
Since the madman sent me a copy of his original email in which he let the company know that every thought I put down came from his extensive work at the Library of Congress, I thought I'd ask the librarians if he indeed did much in the way of helping them with their Herbert knowledge and finding aid. So I senrt a copy of those paragraphs from his email to one of the librarians mentioned in it. The response from DC, which I just forwarded to New World Records was this: "This is such bullshit!"

I feel I'm very fair about crediting everyone I feel deserves a credit, but this person did nothing and claims he did it all! He's like the person standing in front of the National Theatre, when Hugh Jackman opened in OKLAHOMA!, claiming he, not Rodgers, composed the score.
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 08:54:38 AM
I've bought a Kindle! I'd been thinking for some time about whether to get one but wasn't really sure because I like the look and feel of a book but I thought it will at least be useful when travelling.
I was thinking of getting a Nook next week. Please post how you like it.
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2012, 08:54:51 AM
And that goes back to my earlier question: why should we be blackmailed emotionally by a person calling me a thief into acknowledging? Sometimes, when you can't get no satisfaction, it's because you did nothing to deserve it!
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 08:55:28 AM
Since the madman sent me a copy of his original email in which he let the company know that every thought I put down came from his extensive work at the Library of Congress, I thought I'd ask the librarians if he indeed did much in the way of helping them with their Herbert knowledge and finding aid. So I senrt a copy of those paragraphs from his email to one of the librarians mentioned in it. The response from DC, which I just forwarded to New World Records was this: "This is such bullshit!"

I feel I'm very fair about crediting everyone I feel deserves a credit, but this person did nothing and claims he did it all! He's like the person standing in front of the National Theatre, when Hugh Jackman opened in OKLAHOMA!, claiming he, not Rodgers, composed the score.
Well, it's Ask BK Day, so ask him for his opinion.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 08:56:49 AM
So true DR ELMORE......giving him thanks gives credence to his non-work.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 08:57:30 AM
DR JMK - you are correct, I am still waiting for the picture of Frances at the party at Deanna's house......
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 08:57:38 AM
And that goes back to my earlier question: why should we be blackmailed emotionally by a person calling me a thief into acknowledging? Sometimes, when you can't get no satisfaction, it's because you did nothing to deserve it!
That feeling of professional impotence is powerful. People get angry when others do what they feel is their dream project or that they are the most knowledgeable about. That doesn't mean they contributed, though.

I don't think you'll be satisfied with giving him online credit when he didn't deserve it.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 08:59:02 AM
My question for ASK BK Day.....since actors receive residuals for DVD's.....do you think Jack Larson & Noel Neill are finally getting some additional payments for The Adventures of Superman....now available on DVD.

I hope so.  I bought all six seasons.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Matthew on May 09, 2012, 09:05:32 AM
Re-reading bk's books, (always a delight) I'm tempted to begin writing about the events of the last year, or maybe the last 17 years.
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Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2012, 09:16:57 AM
I think the Library of Congress feedback has now convinced the record company that they should pay no further attention to his claims. As Joe Orton says, "with madness, as with vomit, it's the passerby who receives the inconvenience."
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 09:26:32 AM
I think the Library of Congress feedback has now convinced the record company that they should pay no further attention to his claims. As Joe Orton says, "with madness, as with vomit, it's the passerby who receives the inconvenience."
Lovely, fragrant quote there.

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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 09:43:07 AM
From DR JMK:
Quote
I have their number on my Caller ID.  I think I'll call tomorrow and say, "Hi, we'd like to keep you on the phone for 20 minutes and then reject you because of your age."

Don't forget to do this today. :)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 09:45:03 AM
Family starts arriving today for our niece's impending graduation from Reed (my old alma mater).

Our daughter in-law also graduated from Reed.
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 09:46:57 AM
My allergic reaction to this scented screener has gone from bad to worse.  The entire end of my nose swelled up yesterday and became extremely painful.  I soaked it last night, but it's still red and sensitive (kind of like Frances, LOL).  :)

:(     Didn't you take Benadryl or something last night?
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 09:47:23 AM
I just received my shipping notification from Home Depot that this ultracool waterfall fountain I ordered for our courtyard entrance here at Chez K is on its way:



Nice!
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 09:48:14 AM
Nice fountain. How tall?

A little over 4 feet.  It should scale nicely in the space.

Where is the space located?
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 09:49:22 AM
Speak of the Devil Department:  I just received an email inquiry about a certain actress with the subject line:  France's Farmer.

;D
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Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 10:21:36 AM
Speak of the Devil Department:  I just received an email inquiry about a certain actress with the subject line:  France's Farmer.

;D
France only has one farmer?
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Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 10:25:36 AM
Nice fountain. How tall?

A little over 4 feet.  It should scale nicely in the space.

Where is the space located?

That entryway courtyard right in front of the front door.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 10:26:33 AM
In other exciting news, the Tree Policeman called me today to inform me we violated code by having branches pruned.  Needless to say, his imperious attitude brought out the same in me and by the end of the conversation he was on the defensive.  I've also called the arborist and they have more or less agreed to pay any fines that are levied.
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Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 10:26:56 AM
Speak of the Devil Department:  I just received an email inquiry about a certain actress with the subject line:  France's Farmer.

;D
France only has one farmer?

Only one like this one.  :)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 10:33:41 AM
Nice fountain. How tall?

A little over 4 feet.  It should scale nicely in the space.

Where is the space located?

That entryway courtyard right in front of the front door.

:)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 10:57:59 AM
Keith is putting rugs down on the hardwood floors so Sherlock can get up more easily.

I'm not getting enough exercise and eating too much chocolate and feeling very down. 
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Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 11:04:08 AM
If I had known we still had the dog rugs in the garage I would have suggested we put them down last week. 
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Post by: George on May 09, 2012, 11:05:04 AM
I just received my shipping notification from Home Depot that this ultracool waterfall fountain I ordered for our courtyard entrance here at Chez K is on its way:

That's really cool, Jeff!
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Post by: George on May 09, 2012, 11:05:34 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Your New American Idol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rhtg-v2a90)

:o MY EARS!!!  MY EARS!!!

;)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 11:06:24 AM
DR MATTHEW - writing is a good way bring one's life in focus.
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 11:07:04 AM
In other exciting news, the Tree Policeman called me today to inform me we violated code by having branches pruned.  Needless to say, his imperious attitude brought out the same in me and by the end of the conversation he was on the defensive.  I've also called the arborist and they have more or less agreed to pay any fines that are levied.

Sounds fair......
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 11:07:12 AM
More or less.....
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 11:07:21 AM
In so many words.....
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 11:07:31 AM
To a degree.....
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Post by: George on May 09, 2012, 11:11:15 AM
BK-

How Wonderful That HE and SHE Rhyme

Question-IYHO -How Do You Feel About Women or Men Singing Songs that specifically are written for a Man Or Woman without changing gender?

For Example-Tony Bennett sings-THE MAN WHO GOT AWAY as written without changing The Lyric to THE GIRL WHO GOT AWAY

This doesn't actually address your question, but there's a CD compilation called Art Deco: Can't Help Lovin' That Man (http://www.amazon.com/Art-Deco-Cant-Help-Lovin/dp/B000008DYO/ref=sr_1_cc_2?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1336586506&sr=1-2-catcorr) with selections of songs from the 1920s and 1930s in just that situation.  The performers wanted to record a hit song, but the laws at the time prevented them from changing genders in the lyrics, so they recorded them as written.  It's a great CD!
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Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 09, 2012, 11:34:27 AM
I'm not certain what I am missing, but it seems that if someone's work is being used to supplement a project on Victor Herbert, then that person should receive acknowledgement.  It's "intellectual property", in legalese.  But, as I said, I'm not certain about the whole picture.

If something I've written, either in whole or in part, gets used -- whether word-for-word or paraphrased -- then I should be footnoted or acknowledged for my work.

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Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 11:49:59 AM
BK-

How Wonderful That HE and SHE Rhyme

Question-IYHO -How Do You Feel About Women or Men Singing Songs that specifically are written for a Man Or Woman without changing gender?

For Example-Tony Bennett sings-THE MAN WHO GOT AWAY as written without changing The Lyric to THE GIRL WHO GOT AWAY

Well, unless they're gay, it's a little weird not to change gender, no? 
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 11:52:51 AM
My question for ASK BK Day.....since actors receive residuals for DVD's.....do you think Jack Larson & Noel Neill are finally getting some additional payments for The Adventures of Superman....now available on DVD.

I hope so.  I bought all six seasons.

No.  Up until 1975, I believe, an actor only received residuals for seven runs of a show and nothing for ancillary stuff - I have received token payments for things like The Doris Day Show DVDs, but in the 1950s, no.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2012, 11:55:08 AM
I'm not certain what I am missing, but it seems that if someone's work is being used to supplement a project on Victor Herbert, then that person should receive acknowledgement.  It's "intellectual property", in legalese.  But, as I said, I'm not certain about the whole picture.

If something I've written, either in whole or in part, gets used -- whether word-for-word or paraphrased -- then I should be footnoted or acknowledged for my work.



I will say it again and I thought I was clear:  his work was not used to supplement this project on Victor Herbert.

I used nothing from him. If I felt he were owed an acknowledgement, I would happily have given it to him. He didn't write the songs, he and I never discussed the songs, I stood at a photocopier and copied songs from 1894 through Herbert's death in 1924, along with a lot of  unpublished manuscripts, without any help from him. I identified the lost songs from BABES IN TOYLAND without any help from him. I've never heard this person's recordings or lectures, the Library of Congress says his claims on his importance in their Herbert Collection is exaggerated, all of my research on the songs and personnel in my notes came from historical newspapers on line at the New York Public Library and several books in which this person had no involvement, since they were most likely published before he was ever born. I learned that one unpublished song was reused and published under another title from a friend who came by to hear the recordings and identified it. He then went home and sent me a pdf of the sheet music, so I acknowledged him.

Tell me why I owe this jerk an acknowledgement. And maybe you can tell me why he's so desperate for recognition on something in which he has no involvement?
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Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 12:00:24 PM
Too bad for Jack and Noel.......
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Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 12:00:44 PM
Here's my opinion on the elmore drama - absolutely NO credit or acknowledgment to the jerk.  If he did nothing, then why do it - because he's pressuring you?  He can't do ANYTHING about it.  Especially with what you now have in writing from the LoC.  I'm sure you've already laid it out for him that you've used nothing of his - that's the end of the story and discussion.  If you want to write him one last time and inform him of what the LoC said, and that you are seriously considering what he's doing as harassment, and that you will not respond to any further e-mails.  Because if you keep this dialogue open he will continue and continue and continue.

I've had some problems with supposed rights' holders for scores over the years - they write, they yell, they posture, and I write back, state the reality, and tell them they will receive no further response.  They have occasionally written a second time, and I put those e-mails directly in the trash, unread - and I never ever hear from them again.
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Post by: George on May 09, 2012, 12:00:45 PM
I'm not certain what I am missing, but it seems that if someone's work is being used to supplement a project on Victor Herbert, then that person should receive acknowledgement.  It's "intellectual property", in legalese.  But, as I said, I'm not certain about the whole picture.

If something I've written, either in whole or in part, gets used -- whether word-for-word or paraphrased -- then I should be footnoted or acknowledged for my work.

I will say it again and I thought I was clear:  his work was not used to supplement this project on Victor Herbert.

I used nothing from him. If I felt he were owed an acknowledgement, I would happily have given it to him. He didn't write the songs, he and I never discussed the songs, I stood at a photocopier and copied songs from 1894 through Herbert's death in 1924, along with a lot of  unpublished manuscripts, without any help from him. I identified the lost songs from BABES IN TOYLAND without any help from him. I've never heard this person's recordings or lectures, the Library of Congress says his claims on his importance in their Herbert Collection is exaggerated, all of my research on the songs and personnel in my notes came from historical newspapers on line at the New York Public Library and several books in which this person had no involvement, since they were most likely published before he was ever born. I learned that one unpublished song was reused and published under another title from a friend who came by to hear the recordings and identified it. He then went home and sent me a pdf of the sheet music, so I acknowledged him.

Tell me why I owe this jerk an acknowledgement. And maybe you can tell me why he's so desperate for recognition on something in which he has no involvement?

Larry, the guy doesn't have a legal leg to stand on.  It'll be up to him to prove (in a court of law) that you used his work...and since he won't want to pay all court costs when (not if) he loses the case, he's not going to sue or probably even take this any further.  You're definitely in the right. :)
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Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 12:01:10 PM
Just had the sweetest call from Richard Sherman - he finished the new book and absolutely adored it.  Happy.
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Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
Oh, and I'm up.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: George on May 09, 2012, 12:01:47 PM
Here's my opinion on the elmore drama - absolutely NO credit or acknowledgment to the jerk.  If he did nothing, then why do it - because he's pressuring you?  He can't do ANYTHING about it.  Especially with what you now have in writing from the LoC.  I'm sure you've already laid it out for him that you've used nothing of his - that's the end of the story and discussion.  If you want to write him one last time and inform him of what the LoC said, and that you are seriously considering what he's doing as harassment, and that you will not respond to any further e-mails.  Because if you keep this dialogue open he will continue and continue and continue.

I've had some problems with supposed rights' holders for scores over the years - they write, they yell, they posture, and I write back, state the reality, and tell them they will receive no further response.  They have occasionally written a second time, and I put those e-mails directly in the trash, unread - and I never ever hear from them again.

What BK said...exactly one second before my post. :D
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 12:01:52 PM
I got nine hours of sleep, then had an almost two-hour telephonic conversation with Mark Haggard, the co-director of Nudie Musical.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2012, 12:04:27 PM
DR ArnoldMBrockman, there are several songs in the Herbert Collection sung by a woman that clearly have a man's point of view. I got criticized last week for this. Two of the songs were written for Madge Ellis, a music hall star, and they were published with her photo. I believe she occasionally did male impersonation, and I asked a wonderful lady to record them.

I've got several recordings of the great Joan Morris singing songs from the turn of the 20th century clearly written from a male point of view: "I Wonder Who's Kissing Her Now" and "On the Banks of the Wabash" come to mind immediately. The Boswell Sisters and Ethel Waters, who was a lesbian, recorded one of my favorite songs, "Dinah."
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2012, 12:06:37 PM
Here's my opinion on the elmore drama - absolutely NO credit or acknowledgment to the jerk.  If he did nothing, then why do it - because he's pressuring you?  He can't do ANYTHING about it.  Especially with what you now have in writing from the LoC.  I'm sure you've already laid it out for him that you've used nothing of his - that's the end of the story and discussion.  If you want to write him one last time and inform him of what the LoC said, and that you are seriously considering what he's doing as harassment, and that you will not respond to any further e-mails.  Because if you keep this dialogue open he will continue and continue and continue.

I've had some problems with supposed rights' holders for scores over the years - they write, they yell, they posture, and I write back, state the reality, and tell them they will receive no further response.  They have occasionally written a second time, and I put those e-mails directly in the trash, unread - and I never ever hear from them again.

What BK said...exactly one second before my post. :D

Thank you both! I'm sick of the whole megillah!
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: George on May 09, 2012, 12:11:35 PM
And on that note (F-natural)...
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Post by: George on May 09, 2012, 12:11:49 PM
PAGE FOUR DANCE!! ;D
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Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on May 09, 2012, 12:13:20 PM
BK-

How Wonderful That HE and SHE Rhyme

Question-IYHO -How Do You Feel About Women or Men Singing Songs that specifically are written for a Man Or Woman without changing gender?

For Example-Tony Bennett sings-THE MAN WHO GOT AWAY as written without changing The Lyric to THE GIRL WHO GOT AWAY

Well, unless they're gay, it's a little weird not to change gender, no? 

Not Necessarily So I Believe=If A Man Or A Woman Is Standing Back and Commenting On A Situation pertaining to The Opposite Sex=As My Example of Tony Singing about The Man Who Got Away.Just as Effective and Relevent
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 12:29:19 PM
What is that series, Broadway Backwards, where people get to sing all the songs they're not the right gender for? Things like a guy singing "Can't Help Lovin' Dat Man"?

Also, isn't Betty Buckley's latest cabaret act where she sings all of the songs that the guys get?
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 12:29:48 PM
I'm pleased Elmore that you're not giving credit where  credit isn't deserved.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 12:52:21 PM
Just had the sweetest call from Richard Sherman - he finished the new book and absolutely adored it.  Happy.

You mean Titty Titty Gang Bang?
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 01:28:51 PM
The afternoon Musicale has ended!  At last.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Laura on May 09, 2012, 01:54:34 PM
JMK, can you tell us again exactly WHY you would be in trouble for hiring an arborist to trim the trees? Do they not belong to you?
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Laura on May 09, 2012, 01:55:36 PM
Out here, "landscapers" hack plants to death. One needs no credentials to be called a landscaper. But arborists are professionals and know how to prune a tree correctly.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jennifer on May 09, 2012, 02:02:33 PM
I've bought a Kindle! I'd been thinking for some time about whether to get one but wasn't really sure because I like the look and feel of a book but I thought it will at least be useful when travelling.

I think you'll love it. You can have an ereader and still read real books. I do. Plus there are tons if free books. I get emails everyday with lists of them.

I know some DRs (like DR Jane) read a lot of their books on their ereader. I still read a lot more not on my ereader. But i can't imagine not having one now.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Doug R on May 09, 2012, 02:21:33 PM
I've bought a Kindle! I'd been thinking for some time about whether to get one but wasn't really sure because I like the look and feel of a book but I thought it will at least be useful when travelling.
I was thinking of getting a Nook next week. Please post how you like it.


The Nook isn't marketed in the UK. So far I'm liking the Kindle. I find it intuitive to use and the touch screen works very well. The screen is bright and clear. Plenty of features - the text to speech works surprisingly well and it plays mp3s in better sound quality than my ipod.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
JMK, can you tell us again exactly WHY you would be in trouble for hiring an arborist to trim the trees? Do they not belong to you?

Ashland has very strict laws on cutting trees.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Laura on May 09, 2012, 02:32:00 PM
Did he cut down the trees? Or have them pruned?
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Laura on May 09, 2012, 02:32:37 PM
We have no such laws about pruning plants. We probably should. Our landscaping looks ridiculous.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2012, 02:59:52 PM
Most of my afternoon has been tied up with DEAREST ENEMY scheduling. The Dublin production team wants a schedule so they can determine times the London singers will be needed in Dublin. I can't balance a checkbook, so I know I'm going to produce a god-awful schedule. I hope the producer and conductor can bail me out.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jrand73 on May 09, 2012, 03:08:38 PM
LOL DR ELMORE......just be like a director I had once who said -

Oh what the hell, everybody just come and be here all the time.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 03:26:49 PM
We have no such laws about pruning plants. We probably should. Our landscaping looks ridiculous.

Just pruned but I'm pretty sure Ashland also has regulations about that. 
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 03:27:57 PM
Ashland also votes for their "tree of the year".  A couple of those trees were torn down, with permission, and the town put up a loud fuss over the trees.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Laura on May 09, 2012, 03:33:26 PM
I would expect that any arborist in town would know what the regulations about pruning are.

Do you have to get a city permit to have a tree pruned?
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Laura on May 09, 2012, 03:35:16 PM
Speaking of city yard police -- my neighbor got cited for weeds. I have the same weeds and was not cited. The difference is that mine are identified in Latin on a plant stake.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 03:38:08 PM
The difference is that mine are identified in Latin on a plant stake.

;D
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2012, 03:43:29 PM
LOL DR ELMORE......just be like a director I had once who said -

Oh what the hell, everybody just come and be here all the time.

It does make life easier!
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 03:49:39 PM
JMK, can you tell us again exactly WHY you would be in trouble for hiring an arborist to trim the trees? Do they not belong to you?

Some of the trees were on neighbors' property, but of course I had permission.  I would never do anything like that without talking to people first.  The problem is that Lake Oswego has a very restrictive (and ambiguous) code.  There are scores of trees in this neighborhood that have had the same thing done where they've never cited anyone.  Some crabby neighbor probably called and complained.  We may need to threaten the City with legal action.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 03:51:18 PM
In other news, a very unique name from my childhood just popped into my head, so I decided to Google the guy and was shocked that the items that came up were pictures of his mugshots and his long arrest record!  That's what comes from playing "My Blue Heaven" on the accordion at the Cub Scouts talent show.  (I won for playing Yellow Bird on the piano).  :)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 04:02:11 PM
BTW, I did indeed call the survey company today and ask them if I could keep them on the phone for 20-25 minutes and then reject them because they're not in the preferred demographic.  :)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 04:20:20 PM
BTW, I did indeed call the survey company today and ask them if I could keep them on the phone for 20-25 minutes and then reject them because they're not in the preferred demographic.  :)

;D  What did they say?
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 04:21:08 PM
I'm tiiiired.  Had a wonderful and very long overseas telephonic conversation with composer Paul Glass, who lives in Switzerland.  A delightful man, and thrilled we're doing Lady in a Cage.  Then I spent two long hours writing liner notes, but they're done now.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 04:21:44 PM
Haven't heard from Pogue, and if I don't soon, I'll have to go eat something.  I also did a two-mile jog and picked up no packages.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 04:21:51 PM
CRANBERRIES.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 04:21:56 PM
Post deleted.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 04:22:53 PM
BTW, I did indeed call the survey company today and ask them if I could keep them on the phone for 20-25 minutes and then reject them because they're not in the preferred demographic.  :)

;D  What did they say?

< crickets > followed by, "Would you like to speak to a supervisor?"   ;D
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
The accordion player:

Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Laura on May 09, 2012, 04:32:53 PM
Wow. We just had a windy storm pop up. Feels like July out there.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 04:36:13 PM
I'm tiiiired.  Had a wonderful and very long overseas telephonic conversation with composer Paul Glass, who lives in Switzerland.  A delightful man, and thrilled we're doing Lady in a Cage.  Then I spent two long hours writing liner notes, but they're done now.

:)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Ron Pulliam on May 09, 2012, 05:36:08 PM
I think I understand things now, Elmore.   I thought he had read your notes and found that you'd used information he'd provided you.

Sorry.

He certainly deserves no credit for doing/providing nothing.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2012, 05:39:30 PM
I think I understand things now, Elmore.   I thought he had read your notes and found that you'd used information he'd provided you.

Sorry.

He certainly deserves no credit for doing/providing nothing.

Apology most certainly accepted! I think if this oaf hadn't been stressing me out for the past three days I'd be a lot calmer today. He's now looked up the info on the foundation of the Man from Philadelphia and bothering his board of directors. We all want him dead.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Laura on May 09, 2012, 05:39:38 PM
A very nice unexpected storm. Still cloudy and windy. Felt like a summer monsoon storm, except it is not nearly as hot.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 05:43:49 PM
I think I understand things now, Elmore.   I thought he had read your notes and found that you'd used information he'd provided you.

Sorry.

He certainly deserves no credit for doing/providing nothing.

I was also a bit confused about this as well. 
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2012, 05:47:20 PM
Valerian, the wonderful bass on the recording, sent me an email last night asking if I could send him a scan of "Belle O'Brien" for a recital he's doing this weekend. So I schlepped it down to Toyland and sent it to him today. So he sent a note back thanking me and asked "Do you have 'Friars'"?  I sent him a snippy note back asking, why didn't you ask for that as well? When I got home, his email response was waiting for me: "I did." So I cecked and sure enough, he did. It was my error. This creep has got totally on the defensive and I hate it. I felt so awful abut blowing up that I had to apologize at once to him for missing it. So, tomorrow I iwill go back to Toyland and scan "The Friars" for Valerian.

On the positive side, a friend and I who had a falling out seem to be back on track today, I made a contact at NPR about getting the New World series of recordings onto NPR, and things look good on the new office front.

So, I should apologize to you, DR Ron Pulliam, for acting so stressed out.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: elmore3003 on May 09, 2012, 05:48:34 PM
So, I'm gping to watch a bit of GHOST HUNTERS and go to bed early. I need some sleep!
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: George on May 09, 2012, 05:48:37 PM
It's finally happend...Obama announces he supports same-sex marriage (http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/politics/obama-same-sex-marriage/index.html?hpt=hp_c1)!!

;D
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: KevinH on May 09, 2012, 05:57:55 PM
In other news:
Barbra's going back to Brooklyn:

http://www.barclayscenter.com/
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 06:04:07 PM

On the positive side, a friend and I who had a falling out seem to be back on track today,

:)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Cillaliz on May 09, 2012, 06:11:40 PM
I've bought a Kindle! I'd been thinking for some time about whether to get one but wasn't really sure because I like the look and feel of a book but I thought it will at least be useful when travelling.
I was thinking of getting a Nook next week. Please post how you like it.

I love my nook. 
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: George on May 09, 2012, 06:14:16 PM
The Washington Center for the Performing Arts here in Olympia just announced (on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/the.washington.center)) that their CenterFest Celebration performer this year will be THE MANHATTAN TRANSFER!! ;D ;D ;D

I WILL BE THERE!!
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Laura on May 09, 2012, 06:14:51 PM
Sooooo, what was he convicted of, JMK?
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 06:15:28 PM
DR John G, if possible I suggest checking them both out and see which you prefer.  I have the Nook color because I do most of my reading at night.  It doesn't work as well in the bright sunlight.  It didn't work at all until I learned which background works best.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Jane on May 09, 2012, 06:16:33 PM
DR JMK I think you jinxed me.  For the first time in years I received a "scratch & sniff" in a magazine today.  As far as I'm concerned it didn't need scratching to smell it.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Cillaliz on May 09, 2012, 06:20:08 PM
Wow. We just had a windy storm pop up. Feels like July out there.

It feels like July here too.  I've been wondering if August will feel like October and if it will snow in September
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Cillaliz on May 09, 2012, 06:24:11 PM
I've had a crazy week with all the preservation stuff for Historic Preservation Week.  This morning there was Business for Breakfast at 7:30 AM with Donovan Rypkema as a speaker, then a round table discussion with him, then a sentencing (had to do a little work)  then I picked Donovan up at his hotel, took him to lunch and dropped him off at the airport.  About an hour later I was so exhausted I had to come home early from work.  I fell asleep and slept like a rock for 2 hours. 
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 07:03:09 PM
Back from eating way too much food - thank goodness I jogged.  We went to Dr. Hoggly Woggley's Tyler Texas B-B-Q - amazing food - haven't been in at least eight years.  I used to live just a few blocks from there in the very early 1970s.  I should have stuck to my original instinct and just had a brisket sandwich.  But, nooooo, I couldn't do that, so I had a brisket plate and three ribs.  Oy and vey - so very full of food right now I feel like I'm going to explode - but it was GREAT.  A side of coleslaw and another of baked beans, and a little bread.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 07:03:42 PM
I shall now finish the first of the Branagh Wallander films.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: ChasSmith on May 09, 2012, 07:09:34 PM
Good evening from a very nice Best Western, where I sip bourbon on the rocks following an 11-1/2 hour drive.  Wish I had me some cow jerky. 

On second thought, hold the cow jerky and pass me another of those mini-bottles.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: JMK on May 09, 2012, 07:32:11 PM
Sooooo, what was he convicted of, JMK?

OMG, the rap sheet went on forever.  I was stunned.  I have another very strong memory of him as a kid (aside from his accordion fiasco LOL) where he told me he was going out with his father to don rocket packs and fly over the Wasatch Mountains.  That should have been my first clue.  :)
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on May 09, 2012, 07:52:17 PM
I shall now finish the first of the Branagh Wallander films.

The Flying Wallanders
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 08:34:55 PM
DR John G, if possible I suggest checking them both out and see which you prefer.  I have the Nook color because I do most of my reading at night.  It doesn't work as well in the bright sunlight.  It didn't work at all until I learned which background works best.
I have done a great deal of reading about the two of them, and the two features I seem to like best about the nook are the lighting and the battery life. For the trip to Europe, the longer battery life will come in handy.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 08:37:05 PM
Wow. We just had a windy storm pop up. Feels like July out there.

It feels like July here too.  I've been wondering if August will feel like October and if it will snow in September
And it feels like March here. Temps were in the 60s last night. We've had rain most every day of the week. Last year, it had already topped 100 several times by May.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 08:39:03 PM
Nice barbecue dinner tonight. Well, the ribs were not great, but sitting out on a breezy evening with some country music, a beer and good brisket made for a nice evening, especially since we finished before the rains came in.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: John G. on May 09, 2012, 09:08:58 PM
Night, all.
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Michael on May 09, 2012, 09:11:51 PM
I know its Thursday on the east coast and this is the first time I had a chance to come here.

So here are my two questions for Wednesday ASK BK

Have you thought of doing a Haines His Way App for IPhone and/or Android?

In your book you mentioned that Unsung Irving Berlin was not as successful as one hoped. I am wondering why a "Highlight" version was released?
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: Michael on May 09, 2012, 09:12:18 PM
I hope everyone is good and vibes to people who need them
Title: Re: JERKY CAM
Post by: bk on May 09, 2012, 09:27:28 PM
I know its Thursday on the east coast and this is the first time I had a chance to come here.

So here are my two questions for Wednesday ASK BK

Have you thought of doing a Haines His Way App for IPhone and/or Android?

In your book you mentioned that Unsung Irving Berlin was not as successful as one hoped. I am wondering why a "Highlight" version was released?

I don't know from apps - how do you do it?  They released a highlights version to try and make more money - it didn't work.