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Title: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: bk on April 06, 2013, 12:06:01 AM
Well, you've read the notes, the notes spoke of death and other matters in a lively way, and now it is time for you to post until the cows come home - they're currently at a funeral and then they'll be in MOOrning.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: bk on April 06, 2013, 12:06:33 AM
And the word of the day is: GEST!
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Post by: Ben on April 06, 2013, 04:08:48 AM
Morning all.

That is all.
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Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 04:23:12 AM
Morning.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 06, 2013, 04:27:05 AM
Saturday morning.  It is a work day.  Oh well.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 06, 2013, 04:34:37 AM
TOD:

I am expecting that when I go....which at my age will be sooner rather than later - there will be a big wake and garage sale.

I do have my stuff distributed per my will.....and my $$ go to my family and to the theatre where I have been working these last 34 years....

I have a plot in a cemetery called Sugar Grove.  My great grandfather donated the land and built the church that is on it many, many years ago....at the beginning of the 20th century - so his descendants can be buried there if they wish.  I have many relatives there.  It is very peaceful with lots of trees and grass and flowers.  I drive by it twice a day when I go to the theatre - which is kind of creepy.

A short service with friends speaking - and some music - and a gathering afterwards.  This is an article that the local newspaper editor wrote about a gathering we had for my friend Ernie back in 2011.....that would be an okay example to follow....some nice remembrances and forgiveness for the mistakes....and a little article in the newspaper for others to clip and save.  ;)

http://www.bannergraphic.com/story/1734320.html
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 06, 2013, 04:50:35 AM
Good morning, all!

This is a day of adventure for me. Bruce Pomahac and I are taking a train to Connecticut this morning to see a matinee of Victor Herbert's THE RED MILL performed by some local operetta group. I am curious to hear the "edition" used and see how it plays to an audience. I hope the cast is good. I will meet Bruce at Grand Central Station at 10:45 and the fun begins.

I haven't given much thought to my death beyond a will and the plots at Woodlawn Cemetery my father purchased for me, himself, my brothers, and several cousins following my mother's death in 1994. I expect at the funeral there will be armed guards to prevent the large crowd from rushing the coffin to nail it shut.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jrand74 on April 06, 2013, 04:59:06 AM
HA!  Coffin nails will be no deterrent to some of us after we go....let them quake in their bed!  I shall return!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jrand74 on April 06, 2013, 04:59:35 AM
HA!

Do have a nice trip DR ELMORE - to the theatre, I mean.
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Post by: Jrand74 on April 06, 2013, 05:16:48 AM
I am off to work.  Oh well.....
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: elmore3003 on April 06, 2013, 05:27:16 AM
HA!

Do have a nice trip DR ELMORE - to the theatre, I mean.

Thank you, DR JRand62!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: ChasSmith on April 06, 2013, 06:35:57 AM
Good morning, all.

Oy!  It seems Death is everywhere this week.  (Explanation forthcoming.)
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Post by: ChasSmith on April 06, 2013, 06:57:20 AM
I couldn't believe it when I saw the title of the notes today.  It's just one of those weeks when it seems like it's all around us.

Late yesterday afternoon I got gut-punched as I listened to a phone message from a gal we know who rescues cats and who had been the source for one of the little critters right here in this household.  Our beloved vet, Dr. Thomas Nero, had died on Thursday.  This was incomprehensible.  Several close friends and I, cat owners and faithful clientele of Dr. Nero, feel as though this is hitting us more strongly than if we'd heard one of our own doctors had died so suddenly and unexpectedly.  We didn't know him personally to any degree, but just being around him, chatting with him about various interests, and of course entrusting him with the care of our beloved animals had always been a privilege.

He was an exceptional doctor, and the clinic and boarding facility he founded some twenty years ago is considered the very best around.  He had just moved the practice into a larger facility a couple of blocks down the road from the original site, and when I heard this I jumped in the car and went down to see if anyone was there.  It was my first time in the new place, and it was just gorgeously designed. 

An assistant said they don't know a hell of a lot about what happened, but he had been out somewhere, had possibly seemed disoriented to someone or other, and later was found unresponsive somewhere nearby.  He had no partners in the practice, so it is probably going to be up to his wife to decide what happens with the business.  We can only hope for another highly respected doctor to take it over and continue the mission of highest quality cat care in the area. 

He would have turned 58 in May, and this is just a cruel loss of someone who did so much good.  RIP, Dr. Nero.

http://www.danburycatclinic.com/about/
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Post by: John G. on April 06, 2013, 07:00:48 AM
Good morning, all.

Very sorry for your loss, ChasSmith.
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Post by: John G. on April 06, 2013, 07:04:08 AM
TOD:

I would like as little money as possible spent on the disposal of my remains. Hopefully, science will have a use for the body.

But I also believe that no one will remember or pay attention to that wish any more than they will pay attention to the music I want at whatever service there will be. And who knows when they will find the written instructions that are with my will.

As I won't be around, it doesn't really bother me.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: John G. on April 06, 2013, 07:04:20 AM
Now, off to start taxes.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: ChasSmith on April 06, 2013, 07:05:41 AM
TOD

Cremation, and no maudlin funeral service, please.  Wait till the dust settles (or the ashes, hahaha) and have an upbeat memorial.

While I don't plan on going anywhere, anytime soon, I am remiss in having not yet made a will.  I know this is something that simply must be done.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Charles Pogue on April 06, 2013, 07:05:54 AM
TOD:

When I'm dead, I won't really care what happens after.  I'll be dead.  It'll be somebody else's problem, won't it?  But I don't see much point in digging a hole and slapping up a headstone for a mouldering corpse or paying for an expensive coffin no one's going to see. Let's not waste the ground space. Put me in the cheapest box allowable and burn me.  Then have a party and celebrate, don't mourn.  My business people keep telling me to make a will for the distribution of my stuff.  I keep avoiding it.

Actually I'd like a Viking's funeral ala BEAU GESTE or THE VIKINGS.  But don't burn a faithful dog at my feet, just have the ashes of all my already deceased dogs at my feet.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: ChasSmith on April 06, 2013, 07:08:45 AM
Right, DR John G., I typed that hastily.  Donation of whatever they can use, and cremation of the rest.

The tough part for me is thinking about where I'd like to designate the aforementioned ashes to go.  Scatter 'em?  If so, where?  Place in a grave site or memorial?  I just don't know.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Druxy on April 06, 2013, 07:22:37 AM
TOD:

My wife and I plan to be cremated and interred together in the mausoleum at Hillside in Los Angeles.

It's the one behind the Al Jolson statue, which seems fitting since I wrote a play about him.

Hopefully, that won't be any time soon.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Kerry on April 06, 2013, 07:58:30 AM
TOD:
Divvy up the parts for whoever may use them.  Give the rest to medical research, and burn anything that's left.  No obit. No service.  And send a chosen group of people to dinner somewhere nice.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Matthew on April 06, 2013, 08:16:22 AM
Long day today.  I'll probably be quite E&T.  Last thing on the agenda is seeing "The Blue Man Group"  - first time, and probably the last.  But I'm going with someone who really wants to see it.  It's more his thing anyway.  I'll just try and stay awake, I guess.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: vixmom on April 06, 2013, 08:34:57 AM
A few years ago when I was a little more concerned that my departure may be imminent I gave some serious thought to this TOD
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 08:41:26 AM
Honestly, Jonathan Frank and the friends and co-workers of hisfrom that "Stalkin Broadway" site killed the person who was Fred at some point back in 2012.  It's hard to tell what date, but by the end of that year, he was gone.  There's simply no way around it.  I basically was a happy, joyful person who 95+% saw the good in life, with only sporadic bits of negativity (just about all the negative money-minded and business-oriented, not personal). 

Today, sitting at "Passion" the other night, I saw in Fosca's behavior  so many elements of what I've become as a result of even our good friends at City Center Encores having taken Jonathan Frank's side against someone who has supported and been friends of theirs for decades now.  Thanks heavens for Skip and my true friends and family members. 

I feel for the first time in my life that there are people in the world who would be happy to see me die, mainly because they have said so much.  Before 2012, I never felt there were any such people.  Our supposed friends have chosen business concerns over daring to say a word to the City Center marketing department, whose motivations for backing Mr, Frank their videographer  (and the Talkin Broadway company they hypocritically insist to me I shouldn't care so much about being part of) so fiercely stymie me. 

So since I feel like I've died already, this is what I'm doing with the body - just trying to keep it preserved while waiting to see how evrything turns out.  :)
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: bk on April 06, 2013, 09:01:04 AM
I'm up, I'm up - I've barely been asleep.  One of the most annoying nights ever.  I just could not fall asleep, which is becoming SOP for the night before a stumble-through.  I don't know that I slept more than three hours.  My nose was running, I was phlegm-y, it was awful.  I think I fell asleep around six and just got up.  Whether I can sing for the stumble-through or not is anyone's guess - if I don't feel I'm up to it, I'll skip the number and just do it at the show IF I feel up to it tomorrow.  I hate when this happens.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: MBarnum on April 06, 2013, 09:42:02 AM
TOD:

I have instructed my family to donate my body to  science. By having that done I also get a free cremation of what is left over.

As I am not fond of funerals or memorials, and I know that many others feel the same, I prefer not to have any ceremony. No need to put others through that plus there is always that fear that no one will show up. An obit will be fine, although I think I would like to write it myself.

I still need to get a will written out.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Ben on April 06, 2013, 09:52:33 AM
Deb, I forgot to say thanks for checking the streaming list at Netflix.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: vixmom on April 06, 2013, 09:52:37 AM
I decided that if there was anything usable that it should be used - the rest to be cremated.

I do not want a wake or a burial or ash scattering ceremony  my survivors can do whatever tehy want withteh ashes - throw  'em out - scatter them  wherever they want -- stick 'em in a vase

 however I would like a memorial church service.

The service is not as much for me as for those I leave behind- I believe funerals should be for the survivors - it is a way to say goodbye and provide some closure and peace

and I do have some traditional hymns I would like sung



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Post by: ChasSmith on April 06, 2013, 10:03:11 AM
I recently acquired the UK Blu-ray of Orson Welles's THE TRIAL, a long-time favorite.  This disc is a winner.  What a pleasure to finally have a GREAT transfer of one of the films that have suffered so horribly in home video, and even revival house prints, for all these years.

Before watching it, I took out my Roan Group gold plated laserdisc to see what it looked like now, because I hadn't watched it since long before having an HD screen.  For a laserdisc, it's certainly still serviceable.  Some of them are still perfectly watchable, upscaled to HD, and others just aren't, so it's a crapshoot.  But the several Roans I have are so beautifully presented and collectible that I'm still hanging on to every one of 'em. 

But I was very pleasantly surprised to find a special bonus on this one:  liner notes by one DR Druxy!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 10:14:47 AM

I have a plot in a cemetery called Sugar Grove.  My great grandfather donated the land and built the church that is on it many, many years ago....at the beginning of the 20th century - so his descendants can be buried there if they wish.  I have many relatives there.  It is very peaceful with lots of trees and grass and flowers. 


I think this is very special.  I'm sure I would spend time walking through there and "visiting" my family.
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 10:18:08 AM

He would have turned 58 in May, and this is just a cruel loss of someone who did so much good.  RIP, Dr. Nero.

http://www.danburycatclinic.com/about/

This is very sad and I'm sorry to read the cat world has loss such a special person. 
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 10:19:24 AM
TOD:

My wife and I plan to be cremated and interred together in the mausoleum at Hillside in Los Angeles.

It's the one behind the Al Jolson statue, which seems fitting since I wrote a play about him.

Hopefully, that won't be any time soon.

I do have a lot of family, including my parents, at Hillside.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Doug R on April 06, 2013, 10:31:01 AM
Not much happening today but at long last the weather is getting a bit warmer. I've even been able to sit in the sun for a while. Soon be time to start gardening.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: ArnoldMBrockman on April 06, 2013, 10:39:16 AM
And the word of the day is: GEST!

And The Song Of The Day Is:  A TRIP TO THE LIBRARY
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Druxy on April 06, 2013, 10:40:17 AM
I recently acquired the UK Blu-ray of Orson Welles's THE TRIAL, a long-time favorite.  This disc is a winner.  What a pleasure to finally have a GREAT transfer of one of the films that have suffered so horribly in home video, and even revival house prints, for all these years.

Before watching it, I took out my Roan Group gold plated laserdisc to see what it looked like now, because I hadn't watched it since long before having an HD screen.  For a laserdisc, it's certainly still serviceable.  Some of them are still perfectly watchable, upscaled to HD, and others just aren't, so it's a crapshoot.  But the several Roans I have are so beautifully presented and collectible that I'm still hanging on to every one of 'em. 

But I was very pleasantly surprised to find a special bonus on this one:  liner notes by one DR Druxy!

 :o

I'd forgotten all about that.

Yes, I did write liner notes for a few of Roan's LDs.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Druxy on April 06, 2013, 10:43:12 AM
TOD:

My wife and I plan to be cremated and interred together in the mausoleum at Hillside in Los Angeles.

It's the one behind the Al Jolson statue, which seems fitting since I wrote a play about him.

Hopefully, that won't be any time soon.

I do have a lot of family, including my parents, at Hillside.

Maybe when we're all there, we can have a party.

 ::)
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Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 10:46:52 AM
Was it here that someone mentioned the woman who had her own memorial the other day, so she could see who would show up at her funeral, then st up at the end of teh service?

Here's the article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303284/Chinese-student-Zeng-Jia-hosts-FUNERAL.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

(Chinese student hosts her own FUNERAL because she didn't want to miss out on ceremony)

Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 10:49:23 AM
I thought i read it here, but I could be wrong.
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Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 12:17:03 PM
....when it wanes it pours.

Okay, okay, I admit it.  You got me.  I laughed out loud when I read that.  I am surprised I didn't wake Nicky from his late morning nap.
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Post by: ChasSmith on April 06, 2013, 01:08:34 PM
The nice mail lady just brought me two nice Krizerland CDs.
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Post by: ChasSmith on April 06, 2013, 01:12:33 PM
Note to DR Elmore:  It wouldn't have worked today, but next time you schlep to CT to see something, let me know and maybe I'll join or at least meet y'all for a bite or a drink.

Looking forward to hearing a report on the Herbert.
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Post by: John G. on April 06, 2013, 01:13:40 PM
Was it here that someone mentioned the woman who had her own memorial the other day, so she could see who would show up at her funeral, then st up at the end of teh service?

Here's the article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303284/Chinese-student-Zeng-Jia-hosts-FUNERAL.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

(Chinese student hosts her own FUNERAL because she didn't want to miss out on ceremony)



Ruth Fertel, who started the Ruth's Chris Steak House chain, threw herself a New Orleans funeral party before her death, so that she could be there to enjoy it. She was dying from cancer at the time, but that was a good day for her, I'm told, and she enjoyed the heck out of it. I like that attitude.
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Post by: John G. on April 06, 2013, 01:14:30 PM
Got some taxes done. But not enough. Yet I'm done for today.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 01:46:11 PM
TOD:

My wife and I plan to be cremated and interred together in the mausoleum at Hillside in Los Angeles.

It's the one behind the Al Jolson statue, which seems fitting since I wrote a play about him.

Hopefully, that won't be any time soon.

I do have a lot of family, including my parents, at Hillside.

Maybe when we're all there, we can have a party.

 ::)

Sounds great except I won't be joining the party.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 01:48:43 PM
Was it here that someone mentioned the woman who had her own memorial the other day, so she could see who would show up at her funeral, then st up at the end of teh service?

Here's the article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303284/Chinese-student-Zeng-Jia-hosts-FUNERAL.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

(Chinese student hosts her own FUNERAL because she didn't want to miss out on ceremony)



I hope I missed reading the part where the mourners knew she was really alive.
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 01:50:37 PM
Was it here that someone mentioned the woman who had her own memorial the other day, so she could see who would show up at her funeral, then st up at the end of teh service?

Here's the article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303284/Chinese-student-Zeng-Jia-hosts-FUNERAL.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

(Chinese student hosts her own FUNERAL because she didn't want to miss out on ceremony)



Ruth Fertel, who started the Ruth's Chris Steak House chain, threw herself a New Orleans funeral party before her death, so that she could be there to enjoy it. She was dying from cancer at the time, but that was a good day for her, I'm told, and she enjoyed the heck out of it. I like that attitude.

That could be fun, especially in New Orleans.
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 01:52:59 PM
Thank you DR's Laura & John G.
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 01:53:56 PM
From DR Vixmom:
Quote
you know you are officially a grown up when you hear a friend is getting a whole new septic system and you are envious!

 ;D
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 02:06:44 PM
From DR John G:
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Did you read about the family that got kicked off a plane because they objected that the movie in flight was PG-13 and their kids shouldn't be watching? The flight's response was to stop in Chicago, en route from Baltimore to Denver, if I recall correctly, and then boot the entire family off. I think charges are also going to filed against them. Meanwhile, they're talking about suing the airline.

I thought that they were let go after a few minutes of questioning.  I'm sure the other passengers were pretty pissed off being diverted so such a stupid reason.  The poor flight attendants who where no longer getting paid couldn't have been happy.

I remember complaining about a comedy routine I found inappropriate for my children.  Personally I found it offensive to me as well.  That was in the days when we watched a big screen at the beginning of the row of seats.  Since it was a stand up comic all I had to do was pull the ear plugs on my kids.  You can't easily shut their eyes to violence on the screen.
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 02:50:39 PM
I found today's topic interesting as I woke up this morning dreaming/thinking about scattering our ashes up on Mt. Ashland with Echo & Sherlock's.

Keith & I love old cemeteries and there is a part of us that would like to be buried in one.   As a genealogist Keith would like to leave behind a plaque, if nothing, for future generations to visit.  As a realist he says no one will visit and he will be cremated.  I insist our ashes not be scattered until they can be scattered together.  If he goes first he doesn't want to be kept in a closet for 20 years so we decided he can be kept on a shelf in a jar of popcorn.  I can be kept with a tin of Lindt chocolate or with the Haagen-Dazs.

Where our ashes will be scattered I guess depends on where we, or our children, are living at the time.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: ChasSmith on April 06, 2013, 02:59:14 PM

 so we decided he can be kept on a shelf in a jar of popcorn.  I can be kept with a tin of Lindt chocolate or with the Haagen-Dazs.


I think I'd foresee too many possibilities for hilarious kitchen mixups.
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Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 03:19:50 PM
LOL!!!!! :D
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jennifer on April 06, 2013, 03:33:21 PM
Was it here that someone mentioned the woman who had her own memorial the other day, so she could see who would show up at her funeral, then st up at the end of teh service?

Here's the article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303284/Chinese-student-Zeng-Jia-hosts-FUNERAL.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

(Chinese student hosts her own FUNERAL because she didn't want to miss out on ceremony)



I hope I missed reading the part where the mourners knew she was really alive.

I didn't read the story. But how could they know she was alive if she wanted to see who would show up at the funeral?
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Post by: elmore3003 on April 06, 2013, 03:34:01 PM
The production was dreadful!

Amateurish of the worst sort. The conductor has delusions of adequacy, and really let a potentially good orchestra down.

We left at intermission. And I am home.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jennifer on April 06, 2013, 03:35:02 PM
DR FJL, I feel so sad reading your post. :(

Why don't you just abandon TB and find other boards where people aren't so cruel.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: KevinH on April 06, 2013, 03:35:16 PM
Hello!  I picked up my blu-ray of Hello, Dolly!  from UPS and am watching it now.  I can't get over how vibrant the colors are!  Not to mention the spectacular singing by the leading lady.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: KevinH on April 06, 2013, 03:36:58 PM
What a beautiful day in the Washington, DC area! A little chilly, but very sunny.  I'm thinking of going to see the Cherry Blossoms tomorrow but don't know if I can face the crowds.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: ChasSmith on April 06, 2013, 03:37:37 PM
The production was dreadful!

Amateurish of the worst sort. The conductor has delusions of adequacy, and really let a potentially good orchestra down.

We left at intermission. And I am home.

Oy!!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: KevinH on April 06, 2013, 03:38:27 PM
From DR John G:
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Did you read about the family that got kicked off a plane because they objected that the movie in flight was PG-13 and their kids shouldn't be watching? The flight's response was to stop in Chicago, en route from Baltimore to Denver, if I recall correctly, and then boot the entire family off. I think charges are also going to filed against them. Meanwhile, they're talking about suing the airline.

I thought that they were let go after a few minutes of questioning.  I'm sure the other passengers were pretty pissed off being diverted so such a stupid reason.  The poor flight attendants who where no longer getting paid couldn't have been happy.

I remember complaining about a comedy routine I found inappropriate for my children.  Personally I found it offensive to me as well.  That was in the days when we watched a big screen at the beginning of the row of seats.  Since it was a stand up comic all I had to do was pull the ear plugs on my kids.  You can't easily shut their eyes to violence on the screen.






I didn't read the story, but I think if I were a passenger and had a vote, I would have chosen to turn the movie off rather than be diverted to another airport.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: KevinH on April 06, 2013, 03:39:39 PM
Now, off to start taxes.



I've got to get serious about taxes too!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: ChasSmith on April 06, 2013, 03:40:39 PM
Now, off to start taxes.



I've got to get serious about taxes too!

Ditto.  Sometime soon.  Seriously.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: ChasSmith on April 06, 2013, 03:41:08 PM
Also,

PAGE 3.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 03:49:36 PM
From DR John G:
Quote
Did you read about the family that got kicked off a plane because they objected that the movie in flight was PG-13 and their kids shouldn't be watching? The flight's response was to stop in Chicago, en route from Baltimore to Denver, if I recall correctly, and then boot the entire family off. I think charges are also going to filed against them. Meanwhile, they're talking about suing the airline.

I thought that they were let go after a few minutes of questioning.  I'm sure the other passengers were pretty pissed off being diverted so such a stupid reason.  The poor flight attendants who where no longer getting paid couldn't have been happy.

I remember complaining about a comedy routine I found inappropriate for my children.  Personally I found it offensive to me as well.  That was in the days when we watched a big screen at the beginning of the row of seats.  Since it was a stand up comic all I had to do was pull the ear plugs on my kids.  You can't easily shut their eyes to violence on the screen.






I didn't read the story, but I think if I were a passenger and had a vote, I would have chosen to turn the movie off rather than be diverted to another airport.

According the the article I read the mother requested the movie screen by them be turned off.  The people around them said it was fine with them.  There wasn't anyway to turn it off.  I guess the parent's complained but accepted the ruling.  About an hour later the pilot diverted the plane due to a problem with a passenger.  The family were shocked to find out, when they exited the plane, they were the problem passengers.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 03:51:59 PM
It must have been an exceptionally bad morning of dreams for me.  Keith said around 4:00am  I was either having a bad dream or I was talking to the Devil. ;D
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: bk on April 06, 2013, 03:59:26 PM
Had a very good stumble-through - only a handful of lyric flubs, but one doesn't want that in a show that's a tribute to lyricists :)  Great cast, great songs.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 04:02:59 PM
DR FJL, I feel so sad reading your post. :(

Why don't you just abandon TB and find other boards where people aren't so cruel.


Jennifer, i sent you a privare reply.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 04:04:27 PM
Now, off to start taxes.



I've got to get serious about taxes too!


I've got to do some extensions, and I don;t mean hair.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 04:05:51 PM
My mom and dad called to talk business.  that's actually always fun.   Really!!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 04:07:57 PM
Dad's in his 90's, and it's so great to hear how sharp he is.  It's like they said on the old MTM show, with him, pout a dollar sign in front of it, he'll be brilliant forever, LOL.  Actually, maybe about anything.  Mom was always a great bookkeeper, she knows her stuff, too.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 04:11:01 PM
Jane - Yikes, why didn't someone just throw a coat over the screen?  That might have been a little easier than diverting the plane.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jennifer on April 06, 2013, 04:15:34 PM
From DR John G:
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Did you read about the family that got kicked off a plane because they objected that the movie in flight was PG-13 and their kids shouldn't be watching? The flight's response was to stop in Chicago, en route from Baltimore to Denver, if I recall correctly, and then boot the entire family off. I think charges are also going to filed against them. Meanwhile, they're talking about suing the airline.

I thought that they were let go after a few minutes of questioning.  I'm sure the other passengers were pretty pissed off being diverted so such a stupid reason.  The poor flight attendants who where no longer getting paid couldn't have been happy.

I remember complaining about a comedy routine I found inappropriate for my children.  Personally I found it offensive to me as well.  That was in the days when we watched a big screen at the beginning of the row of seats.  Since it was a stand up comic all I had to do was pull the ear plugs on my kids.  You can't easily shut their eyes to violence on the screen.






I didn't read the story, but I think if I were a passenger and had a vote, I would have chosen to turn the movie off rather than be diverted to another airport.

According the the article I read the mother requested the movie screen by them be turned off.  The people around them said it was fine with them.  There wasn't anyway to turn it off.  I guess the parent's complained but accepted the ruling.  About an hour later the pilot diverted the plane due to a problem with a passenger.  The family were shocked to find out, when they exited the plane, they were the problem passengers.

That makes it sound even more ridiculous. Children should not be forced to watch a movie that is not suitable for them. The plane should have a way to turn it off for them.

And how ridiculous that they accepted the decision but were still kicked off.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 04:16:38 PM
My mom and dad called to talk business.  that's actually always fun.   Really!!

I wish my children thought I was fun. :)
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 04:19:48 PM
From DR John G:
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Did you read about the family that got kicked off a plane because they objected that the movie in flight was PG-13 and their kids shouldn't be watching? The flight's response was to stop in Chicago, en route from Baltimore to Denver, if I recall correctly, and then boot the entire family off. I think charges are also going to filed against them. Meanwhile, they're talking about suing the airline.

I thought that they were let go after a few minutes of questioning.  I'm sure the other passengers were pretty pissed off being diverted so such a stupid reason.  The poor flight attendants who where no longer getting paid couldn't have been happy.

I remember complaining about a comedy routine I found inappropriate for my children.  Personally I found it offensive to me as well.  That was in the days when we watched a big screen at the beginning of the row of seats.  Since it was a stand up comic all I had to do was pull the ear plugs on my kids.  You can't easily shut their eyes to violence on the screen.






I didn't read the story, but I think if I were a passenger and had a vote, I would have chosen to turn the movie off rather than be diverted to another airport.

According the the article I read the mother requested the movie screen by them be turned off.  The people around them said it was fine with them.  There wasn't anyway to turn it off.  I guess the parent's complained but accepted the ruling.  About an hour later the pilot diverted the plane due to a problem with a passenger.  The family were shocked to find out, when they exited the plane, they were the problem passengers.

That makes it sound even more ridiculous. Children should not be forced to watch a movie that is not suitable for them. The plane should have a way to turn it off for them.

And how ridiculous that they accepted the decision but were still kicked off.

They were delayed at the airport then got on another flight to continue to their destination.  They are blaming the pilot for making the decision in anger that they protested.  Maybe more info will come to light.  It seems to me even if the parent's had been a bit loud about it initially they certainly weren't a threat to the rest of the passengers or the flight.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 04:22:04 PM
My mom and dad called to talk business.  that's actually always fun.   Really!!

I wish my children thought I was fun. :)

Jane, when you're in your 80's and 90's, assuming you're still spouting advice like you are now, your kids will most likely be so thrilled you;re around to be there at all, you will be amazed.    (if not, they're ungrateful  -----  LOL  )
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jennifer on April 06, 2013, 04:23:18 PM
My mom and dad called to talk business.  that's actually always fun.   Really!!

I wish my children thought I was fun. :)

Last week I asked my niece if she wanted to play a fun game called Sort My Socks.

I told her it was really fun. She said she didn't think it would be fun since she doesn't like sorting her own socks at home. But she sorted mine anyways. :)
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 04:24:17 PM
Jane - Yikes, why didn't someone just throw a coat over the screen?  That might have been a little easier than diverting the plane.

I doubt that would have been convenient.  I do understand it is difficult for airlines to only show PG movies.  I prefer the small screens in front of me that I can shut off.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 04:24:41 PM
My mom and dad called to talk business.  that's actually always fun.   Really!!

I wish my children thought I was fun. :)

Last week I asked my niece if she wanted to play a fun game called Sort My Socks.

I told her it was really fun. She said she didn't think it would be fun since she doesn't like sorting her own socks at home. But she sorted mine anyways. :)


Aren't you clever.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 04:25:38 PM
My mom and dad called to talk business.  that's actually always fun.   Really!!

I wish my children thought I was fun. :)

Jane, when you're in your 80's and 90's, assuming you're still spouting advice like you are now, your kids will most likely be so thrilled you;re around to be there at all, you will be amazed.    (if not, they're ungrateful  -----  LOL  )

LOL  You mean they will suddenly start listening to my advice?
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 04:32:18 PM
Has anyone seen "Alex Cross"?  This is the movie the parent's complained about.  I couldn't find any news agreeing or refuting the parent's claims that they were polite & reasonable. 
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 04:33:25 PM
They'll listen, but it doesn't mean they'll follow it :)
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 04:34:55 PM
Alex Cross
 
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A homicide detective is pushed to the brink of his moral and physical limits as he tangles with a ferociously skilled serial killer who specializes in torture and pain.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 04:42:28 PM
Alex Cross
 
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A homicide detective is pushed to the brink of his moral and physical limits ....   who specializes in torture and pain.


Hmm, I wonder if he works with the City Center encores video/marketing people.  They'd probably find him a nice job working in customer relations.

Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jennifer on April 06, 2013, 04:47:00 PM
Has anyone seen "Alex Cross"?  This is the movie the parent's complained about.  I couldn't find any news agreeing or refuting the parent's claims that they were polite & reasonable. 

No, but my library has it. I will probably borrow it soon. I guess it's based on the James Patterson book so probably not appropriate for kids.

I think if the movie is on a big screen on a plane then it should be suitable for kids.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jennifer on April 06, 2013, 04:47:46 PM
For anyone who watches SMASH on NBC don't forget it's on tonight (moved to Saturdays).

I am enjoying it this season. I like that they are focusing on more than one musical. And I like the guest stars.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 04:48:39 PM
Cilla or anyone who knows stuff like this, I'm wondering, have you ever heard any "rule" like this:


One of the cyber stalkers is an attorney and it looks like they've been trying to be careful that the stalking posts didn't cross any criminal boundaries, so the stalkers are of course hoping it's all civil.  Strangest example:  there have been actual postings of obits and death statements about me.  A cop told me after I read him oine of them that simply by having added "just kidding" to an otherwise horrifically descriptive post about me (naming me) as having been found dead in my Manhattan apartment, a public posting which otherwise could have caused enough concern form an investigation - simply by the poster having added two words "JUST KIDDING" which he did - was possibly seen as just a joke instead of being meant as a threat. 

That's the rule of thumb I was told by this cop on the phone when i read him the posting, when a lawyer is doung the stalking!  but doesn't this suggest that someone could say the most terrible thing and add "in my opinion" or "just kidding" and get off free.

Although, come to think of it, "in my opinion" pretty much gets someone off from defamation , deosn;t it?
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jennifer on April 06, 2013, 04:52:16 PM
For DR Jane and DR Cillaliz and anyone else with a nook.

I just saw this posted on facebook. 50% off a ton of popular ebooks for NOOK. This weekend only.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/?sort=SA&size=30&pro=1634&store=ebooks&view=grid
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 05:21:04 PM
They'll listen, but it doesn't mean they'll follow it :)

;D
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 05:27:25 PM
My parents' advice sounds much more sage now that i'm in my 50's than it did to me in my 30'.  They've gotten  so much smarter.  :)

Really, though, they are much more fun with fewer of life's pressures on them.  I think having only one "home"  to deal with has been good for them, top.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 05:58:47 PM
For DR Jane and DR Cillaliz and anyone else with a nook.

I just saw this posted on facebook. 50% off a ton of popular ebooks for NOOK. This weekend only.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/?sort=SA&size=30&pro=1634&store=ebooks&view=grid

Much appreciated Jennifer. 

I purchased THE INNOCENT by David Baldacci and ORPHAN TRAIN.  I've considered getting Orphan Train before and, at this price, went for it. 

Of interest is THE HOUSE GIRL.  Has anyone read it?
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 05:59:58 PM
DR FJL I think it is wonderful you are enjoying your parent's so much.  You are lucky to have this experience with them.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 06:13:50 PM
Cilla or anyone who knows stuff like this, I'm wondering, have you ever heard any "rule" like this:


One of the cyber stalkers is an attorney and it looks like they've been trying to be careful that the stalking posts didn't cross any criminal boundaries, so the stalkers are of course hoping it's all civil.  Strangest example:  there have been actual postings of obits and death statements about me.  A cop told me after I read him oine of them that simply by having added "just kidding" to an otherwise horrifically descriptive post about me (naming me) as having been found dead in my Manhattan apartment, a public posting which otherwise could have caused enough concern form an investigation - simply by the poster having added two words "JUST KIDDING" which he did - was possibly seen as just a joke instead of being meant as a threat. 

That's the rule of thumb I was told by this cop on the phone when i read him the posting, when a lawyer is doung the stalking!  but doesn't this suggest that someone could say the most terrible thing and add "in my opinion" or "just kidding" and get off free.

Although, come to think of it, "in my opinion" pretty much gets someone off from defamation , deosn;t it?


FJL,
Honestly, I'm not sure.  Cybercrime is an area I don't know that much about. I've represented people who have viewed child porn etc, but no one who was a cyber stalker. 
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 06:14:17 PM
For DR Jane and DR Cillaliz and anyone else with a nook.

I just saw this posted on facebook. 50% off a ton of popular ebooks for NOOK. This weekend only.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/?sort=SA&size=30&pro=1634&store=ebooks&view=grid

Thanks!!! I'm going to have to spend some time looking at this.  I didn't know it
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 06:15:02 PM
My parents' advice sounds much more sage now that i'm in my 50's than it did to me in my 30'.  They've gotten  so much smarter.  :)

Really, though, they are much more fun with fewer of life's pressures on them.  I think having only one "home"  to deal with has been good for them, top.

I have a blast with my parents now.  They make me laugh a lot, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not so much
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 06:18:06 PM
I've been really out of sorts and wasn't sure I wanted to say anything about it, but it's looking so definite that I'll say it here.   Gabe's mom has a boyfriend.  So she has asked my nephew for a divorce.   I tried to be big about it and stay her friend on FB, since we've done so many things together in the past etc, but it's broken my heart and I just can't do it. 
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 06:20:35 PM
My parents' advice sounds much more sage now that i'm in my 50's than it did to me in my 30'.  They've gotten  so much smarter.  :)

Really, though, they are much more fun with fewer of life's pressures on them.  I think having only one "home"  to deal with has been good for them, top.

I have a blast with my parents now.  They make me laugh a lot, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not so much

:)
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 06:23:16 PM
I've been really out of sorts and wasn't sure I wanted to say anything about it, but it's looking so definite that I'll say it here.   Gabe's mom has a boyfriend.  So she has asked my nephew for a divorce.   I tried to be big about it and stay her friend on FB, since we've done so many things together in the past etc, but it's broken my heart and I just can't do it. 

Oh Cilla, I'm very sorry.  I would think she would understand if you don't want to see her on FB with her boyfriend, at least for awhile until the hurt isn't so bad.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 06:23:34 PM
TOD- I want a funeral or a memorial service.   There are many times I've gone to someone's service and have been reunited with relatives I don't see regularly or friends I don't see regularly.   If I can bring together the people I love, then I think that would be a good thing
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 06:25:03 PM
I've been really out of sorts and wasn't sure I wanted to say anything about it, but it's looking so definite that I'll say it here.   Gabe's mom has a boyfriend.  So she has asked my nephew for a divorce.   I tried to be big about it and stay her friend on FB, since we've done so many things together in the past etc, but it's broken my heart and I just can't do it. 

Oh Cilla, I'm very sorry.  I would think she would understand if you don't want to see her on FB with her boyfriend, at least for awhile until the hurt isn't so bad.

Well, she unfriended most of the family when she found out we were being told.  I'm the one who asked her to stay my FB friend.  She was very thankful and glad, but now I can't do it.  At this point, I really don't care it bothers her.   
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 06:29:54 PM
I would feel the same way you do.  I am only thinking that since she is Gabe's mother you don't want to alienate her.  You also have that "hide" option in case you want to spy on her for any reason ;)
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jane on April 06, 2013, 06:31:20 PM
TOD- I want a funeral or a memorial service.   There are many times I've gone to someone's service and have been reunited with relatives I don't see regularly or friends I don't see regularly.   If I can bring together the people I love, then I think that would be a good thing

I think a gathering of some sort can be very beneficial for the living.  I didn't understand this until I was older.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jeanne on April 06, 2013, 06:56:32 PM
Hello, everyone.

My condolences to all who have lost friends or loved ones recently. And that includes Cilla's loss.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Ginny on April 06, 2013, 06:58:41 PM
Saturday evening greetings!  It's been a very long day of meetings, but I'm back in my room in time to see the Michigan/Syracuse game - Go, Blue!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jeanne on April 06, 2013, 06:59:09 PM
Fred, I'm so sorry you're going through all this. At least you have Skip and a supportive family. People can be so cruel!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Ginny on April 06, 2013, 06:59:57 PM
DR Cillaliz, I'm so sorry to hear about Gabe's parents...
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jeanne on April 06, 2013, 07:02:41 PM
TOD:
After my father died I had my Will prepared. It's not easy to think about, but I'm glad it's done. I'm now doing a Power of Attorney for Health Care, also not easy to think about. It helps greatly that my friend Jan, who I've known since I was five, is now an estate planning attorney. Unfortunately, that means she can't make decisions for me if I am incapacitated.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 07:08:25 PM
TOD- I want a funeral or a memorial service.   There are many times I've gone to someone's service and have been reunited with relatives I don't see regularly or friends I don't see regularly.   If I can bring together the people I love, then I think that would be a good thing

I think a gathering of some sort can be very beneficial for the living.  I didn't understand this until I was older.

I never thought of this.

Good idea.


:)
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: FJL on April 06, 2013, 07:09:32 PM
Fred, I'm so sorry you're going through all this. At least you have Skip and a supportive family. People can be so cruel!

Hey, what about my friends, don;t forget my friends.  or do you know something?   :)
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 07:10:48 PM
I couldn't believe it when I saw the title of the notes today.  It's just one of those weeks when it seems like it's all around us.

Late yesterday afternoon I got gut-punched as I listened to a phone message from a gal we know who rescues cats and who had been the source for one of the little critters right here in this household.  Our beloved vet, Dr. Thomas Nero, had died on Thursday.  This was incomprehensible.  Several close friends and I, cat owners and faithful clientele of Dr. Nero, feel as though this is hitting us more strongly than if we'd heard one of our own doctors had died so suddenly and unexpectedly.  We didn't know him personally to any degree, but just being around him, chatting with him about various interests, and of course entrusting him with the care of our beloved animals had always been a privilege.

He was an exceptional doctor, and the clinic and boarding facility he founded some twenty years ago is considered the very best around.  He had just moved the practice into a larger facility a couple of blocks down the road from the original site, and when I heard this I jumped in the car and went down to see if anyone was there.  It was my first time in the new place, and it was just gorgeously designed. 

An assistant said they don't know a hell of a lot about what happened, but he had been out somewhere, had possibly seemed disoriented to someone or other, and later was found unresponsive somewhere nearby.  He had no partners in the practice, so it is probably going to be up to his wife to decide what happens with the business.  We can only hope for another highly respected doctor to take it over and continue the mission of highest quality cat care in the area. 

He would have turned 58 in May, and this is just a cruel loss of someone who did so much good.  RIP, D.r. Nero.

http://www.danburycatclinic.com/about/

Chas, your Dr. Nero seems to be holding my boy, Nicky.

Also, my condolences to you and all who knew and loved Dr. Nero.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jeanne on April 06, 2013, 07:11:41 PM
I've been having some trouble with my vision. I knew I needed a new prescription, but some of the problems were unusual and worrisome, as they were some of the symptoms of glaucoma. I saw a new optometrist last week and he gave me a thorough exam. No signs of glaucoma or other pathology, so that's a relief. He changed my astigmatism correction and made me a new pair of reading glasses while I waited (5-10 minutes) and at a great price! Some of my "glaucoma" cleared right up with the new Rx. I still have some blurring, though, especially online, so I must limit my online reading until I see him again and we can, hopefully, correct that.

BTW, there's quite a bit of overlap between the symptoms of glaucoma and those of computer vision syndrome, which I suspect many of us here have.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Jeanne on April 06, 2013, 07:17:07 PM
Fred, I'm so sorry you're going through all this. At least you have Skip and a supportive family. People can be so cruel!

Hey, what about my friends, don;t forget my friends.  or do you know something?   :)

Of course your friends, too! I never had much support from my family, so I see that as something to really cherish. I didn't mean to overlook your friends.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 07:17:13 PM
TOD:

My wife and I plan to be cremated and interred together in the mausoleum at Hillside in Los Angeles.

It's the one behind the Al Jolson statue, which seems fitting since I wrote a play about him.


Boy, that seems a bit uncomfortable for the one who hasn't died yet.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: ChasSmith on April 06, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
It was last week I dug it out of the box, but tonight I finally got to watch my old commercial VHS tape of THE UMBRELLAS OF CHERBOURG.  Lordy, it's been years, and what a delight.  But yikes, I do have to get the DVD...which is playing hard to get on Amazon at present.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Ginny on April 06, 2013, 07:21:47 PM
TOD - Richard and I are in agreement on cremation and a church memorial service.  We have told all our younger relatives if they want to look at us they better visit while we're alive because there won't be the opportunity when we're not.  I would like to have my ashes packed to be planted as a tree, preferably a pink dogwood.  Or packed into fireworks and shot off over New York harbor.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 07:48:52 PM
TOD:

My wife and I plan to be cremated and interred together in the mausoleum at Hillside in Los Angeles.

It's the one behind the Al Jolson statue, which seems fitting since I wrote a play about him.

Hopefully, that won't be any time soon.

I do have a lot of family, including my parents, at Hillside.


Is that entire fountain thing part of Jolson's tomb?
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 07:51:41 PM
Not much happening today but at long last the weather is getting a bit warmer. I've even been able to sit in the sun for a while. Soon be time to start gardening.


That is good news, Doug.  I was begining to wonder if Great Britain had broken free and was heading north!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Ginny on April 06, 2013, 07:56:59 PM
Michigan's makin' me nervous...
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 07:58:33 PM
Was it here that someone mentioned the woman who had her own memorial the other day, so she could see who would show up at her funeral, then st up at the end of teh service?

Here's the article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303284/Chinese-student-Zeng-Jia-hosts-FUNERAL.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

(Chinese student hosts her own FUNERAL because she didn't want to miss out on ceremony)




I didn't see anywhere in the article if her friends and family knew that she wasn't dead.  I would hope so.  If she was my friend, and had not told me in advance; I would have killed her.  Well, you know what I mean.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 07:59:36 PM
Ginny, your team is giving me a heart attack.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Ginny on April 06, 2013, 08:06:05 PM
I hear ya, DR TCB!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 08:07:31 PM
Hello!  I picked up my blu-ray of Hello, Dolly!  from UPS and am watching it now.  I can't get over how vibrant the colors are!  Not to mention the spectacular singing by the leading lady.

Who is in that movie?
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 08:12:06 PM
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Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 08:14:03 PM
Now, off to start taxes.



I've got to get serious about taxes too!


I already got serious, I just don't want to send the check.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 08:35:19 PM
DR FJL I think it is wonderful you are enjoying your parent's so much.  You are lucky to have this experience with them.


I would give anything to have my mother back.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: vixmom on April 06, 2013, 08:40:59 PM
I've been really out of sorts and wasn't sure I wanted to say anything about it, but it's looking so definite that I'll say it here.   Gabe's mom has a boyfriend.  So she has asked my nephew for a divorce.   I tried to be big about it and stay her friend on FB, since we've done so many things together in the past etc, but it's broken my heart and I just can't do it. 

I am so sorry Cilla -  I know these things are very hard to bear -  we had a similar instance in our family  many years ago --   it is very difficult to lose a family member like this-   VIBES of comfort to you and yours
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 08:43:08 PM
I've been really out of sorts and wasn't sure I wanted to say anything about it, but it's looking so definite that I'll say it here.   Gabe's mom has a boyfriend.  So she has asked my nephew for a divorce.   I tried to be big about it and stay her friend on FB, since we've done so many things together in the past etc, but it's broken my heart and I just can't do it. 


Totally understandable, Cilla, at least for now.  You can always see how you feel down the line.  I am so sorry.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: vixmom on April 06, 2013, 08:43:28 PM
Fred, I'm so sorry you're going through all this. At least you have Skip and a supportive family. People can be so cruel!

Hey, what about my friends, don;t forget my friends.  or do you know something?   :)

well your friends are really  like extended family,  ain't we?  :)
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Ginny on April 06, 2013, 08:43:31 PM
'night!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 08:45:37 PM
I would feel the same way you do.  I am only thinking that since she is Gabe's mother you don't want to alienate her.  You also have that "hide" option in case you want to spy on her for any reason ;)

Already did my spying :)
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 08:46:59 PM
Fred, I'm so sorry you're going through all this. At least you have Skip and a supportive family. People can be so cruel!

Hey, what about my friends, don;t forget my friends.  or do you know something?   :)

Oh you've got to have friends...la la la la la la la la
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 08:48:10 PM
Fred, I'm so sorry you're going through all this. At least you have Skip and a supportive family. People can be so cruel!

Hey, what about my friends, don;t forget my friends.  or do you know something?   :)


Count me in, Fred.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: vixmom on April 06, 2013, 08:48:39 PM
Hello!  I picked up my blu-ray of Hello, Dolly!  from UPS and am watching it now.  I can't get over how vibrant the colors are!  Not to mention the spectacular singing by the leading lady.

Who is in that movie?

There's  a movie of Hello Dolly!?  Do the actors sing  "live"?
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 08:51:05 PM
Fred, I'm so sorry you're going through all this. At least you have Skip and a supportive family. People can be so cruel!

Hey, what about my friends, don;t forget my friends.  or do you know something?   :)

Of course your friends, too! I never had much support from my family, so I see that as something to really cherish. I didn't mean to overlook your friends.

As far as I'm concerned, the people of HHW are as much my family as the blood relatives.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 08:51:52 PM
Thanks everyone.  I've gone from feeling adult about the whole situation when I found out on Easter to being pretty ticked off at the moment.  I was going to try to stay friends, but the things I saw on FB just made me mad or hurt my feelings.  I've chosen to unfriend so I'm not tempted to say what I think. 
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 08:52:11 PM
Fred, I'm so sorry you're going through all this. At least you have Skip and a supportive family. People can be so cruel!

Hey, what about my friends, don;t forget my friends.  or do you know something?   :)

Of course your friends, too! I never had much support from my family, so I see that as something to really cherish. I didn't mean to overlook your friends.

As far as I'm concerned, the people of HHW are as much my family as the blood relatives.

Ditto
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: John G. on April 06, 2013, 09:03:36 PM
Hello!  I picked up my blu-ray of Hello, Dolly!  from UPS and am watching it now.  I can't get over how vibrant the colors are!  Not to mention the spectacular singing by the leading lady.

Who is in that movie?
The cast of "Les Miz."
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: John G. on April 06, 2013, 09:04:02 PM
Cillaliz, sorry to read about your problems and the problems of Gabe's parents.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 09:04:46 PM
Hello!  I picked up my blu-ray of Hello, Dolly!  from UPS and am watching it now.  I can't get over how vibrant the colors are!  Not to mention the spectacular singing by the leading lady.

Who is in that movie?

There's  a movie of Hello Dolly!?  Do the actors sing  "live"?

No, but it will open in theaters on Christmas Day.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: John G. on April 06, 2013, 09:05:55 PM
Back from a fun night in the Hill Country with some friends. We went for dinner at a place that's fairly open air and just enjoyed sitting around and talking over some great food while the sun set. Then we had dessert at another place in the tiny town. It was all good. But I'm tired.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 09:13:18 PM
Cillaliz, sorry to read about your problems and the problems of Gabe's parents.

Thanks JohnG.   
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 09:13:43 PM
Sounds like a very fun evening!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: vixmom on April 06, 2013, 09:23:38 PM
Fred, I'm so sorry you're going through all this. At least you have Skip and a supportive family. People can be so cruel!

Hey, what about my friends, don;t forget my friends.  or do you know something?   :)

Of course your friends, too! I never had much support from my family, so I see that as something to really cherish. I didn't mean to overlook your friends.

As far as I'm concerned, the people of HHW are as much my family as the blood relatives.


 :-*
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: vixmom on April 06, 2013, 09:24:02 PM
 :D
I would feel the same way you do.  I am only thinking that since she is Gabe's mother you don't want to alienate her.  You also have that "hide" option in case you want to spy on her for any reason ;)

Already did my spying :)
:D
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: vixmom on April 06, 2013, 09:24:50 PM
Hello!  I picked up my blu-ray of Hello, Dolly!  from UPS and am watching it now.  I can't get over how vibrant the colors are!  Not to mention the spectacular singing by the leading lady.

Who is in that movie?
The cast of "Les Miz."

 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: vixmom on April 06, 2013, 09:25:30 PM
Hello!  I picked up my blu-ray of Hello, Dolly!  from UPS and am watching it now.  I can't get over how vibrant the colors are!  Not to mention the spectacular singing by the leading lady.

Who is in that movie?

There's  a movie of Hello Dolly!?  Do the actors sing  "live"?




No, but it will open in theaters on Christmas Day.


 :D :D :D
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: vixmom on April 06, 2013, 09:37:22 PM
well I have to be at church in 7 hours   goodnight friends
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Cillaliz on April 06, 2013, 09:43:38 PM
Night Vixmom!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: TCB on April 06, 2013, 10:57:47 PM
Well, I think my work here is done.






G'night!
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: Matthew on April 06, 2013, 11:21:51 PM
Home from a long day concluding with a production of "The Blue Man Group".... what an amazing show and quite the technological wonder.  I'm so glad I finally saw it.

Now to bed.

Tomorrow, a production of John and Jen which I'm sorta not looking forward to, but I'm making myself go as I know it will be good.
Title: Re: DEATH AND OTHER MATTERS
Post by: bk on April 07, 2013, 12:38:30 AM
Back from the STAGE benefit show - clocked in at three hours and forty minutes.  That did include intermission and an endless live auction, but still a good thirty minutes too long.