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« Reply #90 on: April 06, 2013, 06:13:50 PM »

Cilla or anyone who knows stuff like this, I'm wondering, have you ever heard any "rule" like this:


One of the cyber stalkers is an attorney and it looks like they've been trying to be careful that the stalking posts didn't cross any criminal boundaries, so the stalkers are of course hoping it's all civil.  Strangest example:  there have been actual postings of obits and death statements about me.  A cop told me after I read him oine of them that simply by having added "just kidding" to an otherwise horrifically descriptive post about me (naming me) as having been found dead in my Manhattan apartment, a public posting which otherwise could have caused enough concern form an investigation - simply by the poster having added two words "JUST KIDDING" which he did - was possibly seen as just a joke instead of being meant as a threat. 

That's the rule of thumb I was told by this cop on the phone when i read him the posting, when a lawyer is doung the stalking!  but doesn't this suggest that someone could say the most terrible thing and add "in my opinion" or "just kidding" and get off free.

Although, come to think of it, "in my opinion" pretty much gets someone off from defamation , deosn;t it?


FJL,
Honestly, I'm not sure.  Cybercrime is an area I don't know that much about. I've represented people who have viewed child porn etc, but no one who was a cyber stalker. 
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« Reply #91 on: April 06, 2013, 06:14:17 PM »

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« Reply #92 on: April 06, 2013, 06:15:02 PM »

My parents' advice sounds much more sage now that i'm in my 50's than it did to me in my 30'.  They've gotten  so much smarter.  :)

Really, though, they are much more fun with fewer of life's pressures on them.  I think having only one "home"  to deal with has been good for them, top.

I have a blast with my parents now.  They make me laugh a lot, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not so much
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« Reply #93 on: April 06, 2013, 06:18:06 PM »

I've been really out of sorts and wasn't sure I wanted to say anything about it, but it's looking so definite that I'll say it here.   Gabe's mom has a boyfriend.  So she has asked my nephew for a divorce.   I tried to be big about it and stay her friend on FB, since we've done so many things together in the past etc, but it's broken my heart and I just can't do it. 
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« Reply #94 on: April 06, 2013, 06:20:35 PM »

My parents' advice sounds much more sage now that i'm in my 50's than it did to me in my 30'.  They've gotten  so much smarter.  :)

Really, though, they are much more fun with fewer of life's pressures on them.  I think having only one "home"  to deal with has been good for them, top.

I have a blast with my parents now.  They make me laugh a lot, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not so much

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« Reply #95 on: April 06, 2013, 06:23:16 PM »

I've been really out of sorts and wasn't sure I wanted to say anything about it, but it's looking so definite that I'll say it here.   Gabe's mom has a boyfriend.  So she has asked my nephew for a divorce.   I tried to be big about it and stay her friend on FB, since we've done so many things together in the past etc, but it's broken my heart and I just can't do it. 

Oh Cilla, I'm very sorry.  I would think she would understand if you don't want to see her on FB with her boyfriend, at least for awhile until the hurt isn't so bad.
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« Reply #96 on: April 06, 2013, 06:23:34 PM »

TOD- I want a funeral or a memorial service.   There are many times I've gone to someone's service and have been reunited with relatives I don't see regularly or friends I don't see regularly.   If I can bring together the people I love, then I think that would be a good thing
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« Reply #97 on: April 06, 2013, 06:25:03 PM »

I've been really out of sorts and wasn't sure I wanted to say anything about it, but it's looking so definite that I'll say it here.   Gabe's mom has a boyfriend.  So she has asked my nephew for a divorce.   I tried to be big about it and stay her friend on FB, since we've done so many things together in the past etc, but it's broken my heart and I just can't do it. 

Oh Cilla, I'm very sorry.  I would think she would understand if you don't want to see her on FB with her boyfriend, at least for awhile until the hurt isn't so bad.

Well, she unfriended most of the family when she found out we were being told.  I'm the one who asked her to stay my FB friend.  She was very thankful and glad, but now I can't do it.  At this point, I really don't care it bothers her.   
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« Reply #98 on: April 06, 2013, 06:29:54 PM »

I would feel the same way you do.  I am only thinking that since she is Gabe's mother you don't want to alienate her.  You also have that "hide" option in case you want to spy on her for any reason ;)
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« Reply #99 on: April 06, 2013, 06:31:20 PM »

TOD- I want a funeral or a memorial service.   There are many times I've gone to someone's service and have been reunited with relatives I don't see regularly or friends I don't see regularly.   If I can bring together the people I love, then I think that would be a good thing

I think a gathering of some sort can be very beneficial for the living.  I didn't understand this until I was older.
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« Reply #100 on: April 06, 2013, 06:56:32 PM »

Hello, everyone.

My condolences to all who have lost friends or loved ones recently. And that includes Cilla's loss.
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« Reply #101 on: April 06, 2013, 06:58:41 PM »

Saturday evening greetings!  It's been a very long day of meetings, but I'm back in my room in time to see the Michigan/Syracuse game - Go, Blue!
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« Reply #102 on: April 06, 2013, 06:59:09 PM »

Fred, I'm so sorry you're going through all this. At least you have Skip and a supportive family. People can be so cruel!
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« Reply #103 on: April 06, 2013, 06:59:57 PM »

DR Cillaliz, I'm so sorry to hear about Gabe's parents...
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« Reply #104 on: April 06, 2013, 07:02:41 PM »

TOD:
After my father died I had my Will prepared. It's not easy to think about, but I'm glad it's done. I'm now doing a Power of Attorney for Health Care, also not easy to think about. It helps greatly that my friend Jan, who I've known since I was five, is now an estate planning attorney. Unfortunately, that means she can't make decisions for me if I am incapacitated.
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« Reply #105 on: April 06, 2013, 07:08:25 PM »

TOD- I want a funeral or a memorial service.   There are many times I've gone to someone's service and have been reunited with relatives I don't see regularly or friends I don't see regularly.   If I can bring together the people I love, then I think that would be a good thing

I think a gathering of some sort can be very beneficial for the living.  I didn't understand this until I was older.

I never thought of this.

Good idea.


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« Reply #106 on: April 06, 2013, 07:09:32 PM »

Fred, I'm so sorry you're going through all this. At least you have Skip and a supportive family. People can be so cruel!

Hey, what about my friends, don;t forget my friends.  or do you know something?   :)
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« Reply #107 on: April 06, 2013, 07:10:48 PM »

I couldn't believe it when I saw the title of the notes today.  It's just one of those weeks when it seems like it's all around us.

Late yesterday afternoon I got gut-punched as I listened to a phone message from a gal we know who rescues cats and who had been the source for one of the little critters right here in this household.  Our beloved vet, Dr. Thomas Nero, had died on Thursday.  This was incomprehensible.  Several close friends and I, cat owners and faithful clientele of Dr. Nero, feel as though this is hitting us more strongly than if we'd heard one of our own doctors had died so suddenly and unexpectedly.  We didn't know him personally to any degree, but just being around him, chatting with him about various interests, and of course entrusting him with the care of our beloved animals had always been a privilege.

He was an exceptional doctor, and the clinic and boarding facility he founded some twenty years ago is considered the very best around.  He had just moved the practice into a larger facility a couple of blocks down the road from the original site, and when I heard this I jumped in the car and went down to see if anyone was there.  It was my first time in the new place, and it was just gorgeously designed. 

An assistant said they don't know a hell of a lot about what happened, but he had been out somewhere, had possibly seemed disoriented to someone or other, and later was found unresponsive somewhere nearby.  He had no partners in the practice, so it is probably going to be up to his wife to decide what happens with the business.  We can only hope for another highly respected doctor to take it over and continue the mission of highest quality cat care in the area. 

He would have turned 58 in May, and this is just a cruel loss of someone who did so much good.  RIP, D.r. Nero.

http://www.danburycatclinic.com/about/

Chas, your Dr. Nero seems to be holding my boy, Nicky.

Also, my condolences to you and all who knew and loved Dr. Nero.
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« Reply #108 on: April 06, 2013, 07:11:41 PM »

I've been having some trouble with my vision. I knew I needed a new prescription, but some of the problems were unusual and worrisome, as they were some of the symptoms of glaucoma. I saw a new optometrist last week and he gave me a thorough exam. No signs of glaucoma or other pathology, so that's a relief. He changed my astigmatism correction and made me a new pair of reading glasses while I waited (5-10 minutes) and at a great price! Some of my "glaucoma" cleared right up with the new Rx. I still have some blurring, though, especially online, so I must limit my online reading until I see him again and we can, hopefully, correct that.

BTW, there's quite a bit of overlap between the symptoms of glaucoma and those of computer vision syndrome, which I suspect many of us here have.
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« Reply #109 on: April 06, 2013, 07:17:07 PM »

Fred, I'm so sorry you're going through all this. At least you have Skip and a supportive family. People can be so cruel!

Hey, what about my friends, don;t forget my friends.  or do you know something?   :)

Of course your friends, too! I never had much support from my family, so I see that as something to really cherish. I didn't mean to overlook your friends.
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« Reply #110 on: April 06, 2013, 07:17:13 PM »

TOD:

My wife and I plan to be cremated and interred together in the mausoleum at Hillside in Los Angeles.

It's the one behind the Al Jolson statue, which seems fitting since I wrote a play about him.


Boy, that seems a bit uncomfortable for the one who hasn't died yet.
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« Reply #111 on: April 06, 2013, 07:18:06 PM »

It was last week I dug it out of the box, but tonight I finally got to watch my old commercial VHS tape of THE UMBRELLAS OF CHERBOURG.  Lordy, it's been years, and what a delight.  But yikes, I do have to get the DVD...which is playing hard to get on Amazon at present.
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« Reply #112 on: April 06, 2013, 07:21:47 PM »

TOD - Richard and I are in agreement on cremation and a church memorial service.  We have told all our younger relatives if they want to look at us they better visit while we're alive because there won't be the opportunity when we're not.  I would like to have my ashes packed to be planted as a tree, preferably a pink dogwood.  Or packed into fireworks and shot off over New York harbor.
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« Reply #113 on: April 06, 2013, 07:48:52 PM »

TOD:

My wife and I plan to be cremated and interred together in the mausoleum at Hillside in Los Angeles.

It's the one behind the Al Jolson statue, which seems fitting since I wrote a play about him.

Hopefully, that won't be any time soon.

I do have a lot of family, including my parents, at Hillside.


Is that entire fountain thing part of Jolson's tomb?
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« Reply #114 on: April 06, 2013, 07:51:41 PM »

Not much happening today but at long last the weather is getting a bit warmer. I've even been able to sit in the sun for a while. Soon be time to start gardening.


That is good news, Doug.  I was begining to wonder if Great Britain had broken free and was heading north!
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« Reply #115 on: April 06, 2013, 07:56:59 PM »

Michigan's makin' me nervous...
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« Reply #116 on: April 06, 2013, 07:58:33 PM »

Was it here that someone mentioned the woman who had her own memorial the other day, so she could see who would show up at her funeral, then st up at the end of teh service?

Here's the article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303284/Chinese-student-Zeng-Jia-hosts-FUNERAL.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

(Chinese student hosts her own FUNERAL because she didn't want to miss out on ceremony)




I didn't see anywhere in the article if her friends and family knew that she wasn't dead.  I would hope so.  If she was my friend, and had not told me in advance; I would have killed her.  Well, you know what I mean.
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« Reply #117 on: April 06, 2013, 07:59:36 PM »

Ginny, your team is giving me a heart attack.
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« Reply #118 on: April 06, 2013, 08:06:05 PM »

I hear ya, DR TCB!
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« Reply #119 on: April 06, 2013, 08:07:31 PM »

Hello!  I picked up my blu-ray of Hello, Dolly!  from UPS and am watching it now.  I can't get over how vibrant the colors are!  Not to mention the spectacular singing by the leading lady.

Who is in that movie?
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