Haines His Way

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Okay, folks, here is all I have to say on the subject. I think each person here has the right to say whatever he or she wants - as long as it is not personally demeaning or hurtful. Ron Pulliam was expressing his opinion and that's fine. I found nothing mean-spirited about what he said. He was of the opinion that there were things going on in the world that we should pay attention to rather than the rooster. Fine. I have no problem with that.

Frankly, I really don't give a f-k what anyone thinks of a stupid wooden rooster. The reason I started posting pictures of it in the first place was because one of the DRs suggested it would be funny to see it in different locations around the house. As I said, it really does not bother me if certain people do not like the rooster.

What DOES bother me are some of Mr. Pogue's comments. And yes, I do find them mean-spirited. They are not about the wooden rooster - they are about me. Mr. Pogue does not like me, which is his right. However, it is my right to protest posts which are hurtful in a personal sense.
I found Mr. Pogue's comments insulting - and I repeat, not to the wooden rooster - but to me. I think I have certainly posted my share of worthwhile, insightful, humorous comments on this site and have earned - or should have earned - the respect befittting any person here. I would not dream of saying to Mr. Pogue, or anyone else here, some of the things he has said today about me.
I would ask for an apology, but the likelihood of that is pretty remote. So I would just ask that Mr. Pogue ignore my posts from now on. Just skip over them so that his sensibilities are not offended.
I was actually going to stop posting altogether after reading what he had to say this morning. But that would be a cowardly thing to do.
I'm very fond of this site. I find it a safe haven. I'm afraid that Mr. Pogue's remarks have made it somewhat less of a safe haven for me. So, I'll do what I'm asking him to do - which is to ignore his posts.

*sigh*

We are having our house re-roofed. Yesterday they took off the old roof. Today it poured. And I now have a leak in my kitchen. And water coming in under the patio door onto the wood floor.

Having a leek in the kitchen is good.  Having a leak in the kitchen is not.

Vibes.

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Lori Nelson married and divorced Johnny Mann of The Johnny Mann Singers.

Leigh Snowden married and widowed Dick Contino who played a mean accordion.

Julie Adams married and divorced Ray Danton.

And that's what I know about them.  My favorite is Lori Nelson!  

Didn't Johnny Mann do a musical based on The Exorcist? I think it was called "Spit Up and Cheer"!

Having a leek in the kitchen is good.  Having a leak in the kitchen is not.

Vibes.

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Well, I guess one could say it's better to have one then to take one.  Did I say that???  

Well, I guess one could say it's better to have one then to take one.  Did I say that???  

Well...what a can of worms has been opened.  And what a bunch of malarkay it is.  And Panni's emnity toward me (and The Lovely Wife, I might add) goes back a little further than today.  I think people will notice that no where in any of my posts is Panni mentioned.
I don't dislike Panni.  Quite frankly,I just don't think of her much one way or another.  She has no impact in my life.  

She's pissed off at me and The Lovely Wife, because right after our Christmas Party this year, she kept pestering BK, "Why doesn't he invite me to his parties?"  In his exasperation and in his confusion as to why he should be asked this question, BK told her, "Why don't you just ask him?"  So, unbelieveably, she did.

Now understand...The Lovely Wife and I hardly know Panni.  We supped with her and BK once. We were at  aHaines/Kimlet breakfast once with her, BK, Jay, Jane and her husband.  

The other times we have crossed paths is at a few BK signings and What If?.  Our meetings have been largely casual and of no great depth.  We had nothing against her at all.  She was pleasant enough, but she hasn't been an intimate of ours.

So imagine our embarrassment for her when she actually took BK up on his suggestion and wrote us a note, asking why we did not invite her to our parties.  Then going through a long resume of her attributes as to why we should invite her.  Essentially suggesting she was a worthy person and should be invited to our parties.

Overcoming our stunned reaction, we wrote her a polite but firm note that we were a bit surprised that a relative stranger should lobby to be invited to our parties and feel obligated to send us a litany of her good points as to why we should.  And that we found it somewhat presumptuous and rude that she should make suggestions about who we should invite to our parties.  We had nothing personal against her, but she was someone we knew only slightly through Mr. Kimmel and it was our pleasure to choose our guests, not hers.

We got back a rather hysterical note that said she had never been so insulted and that we were the ones who were being rude and couldn't we tell the letter was light-hearted and jokey?  And that we had misinterpreted her letter.

Again, puzzled and shocked, we wrote her back...still even-tempered but a bit more curtly.  We did not think we had misinterpreted the note (and jokey or not, it was still rude and presumptuous).  And that it was often the case when one did not get the hoped-for response to claim they were misinterpreted.  

This precipitated one more hysterical email right before Bruce's Christmas Party.  Where she told us that she would not speak to us at the party and we shouldn't speak to her.

We wrote back...again even-temperedly and politely ,but firmly...that she was still trying to dictate our behaviour and that we wouldn't think of spoiling the festivity of  our friend's party by making a scene and that if the occasion merited it, we would greet her in the spirit of the season and she could respond however she felt fit.   But we weren't about to show our butts.

I would have liked to have pointed out to Panni that night that none of my party guests were at Bruce's party, just as none of his guests were at my party.  Intimacy is the reason you invite people into your house.  Panni was not our intimate.  She was in Bruce's circle; not our circle.  And though the two circles have crossed occasionally, it has been rare.  But Panni does not seem to understand that it is not feasible for me to invite to my parties not only my friends, but also all the people my friends know too.

Now, we still have no real animosity toward Panni, other than we find this whole past incident rather silly, irritating , and somewhat desperate.   I would never even ask a good friend why I wasn't invited to their party, let alone a stranger. I find that in extraordinary bad taste.  But I guess that's my sense of decorum.  

But that's the straight skinny. And so now she find plots and invective in anything we say and thinks that anything we say is about her. And keeps grinding the axe.

I cannot share Panni's letters with you, as they are her property and not mine to do so.  But if the The Lovely Wife gives permission once she has read this whole silly-ass flibbety-gibbet sturm and drang, I will be happy to post them and share them with you and I think you will see that we were perfectly reasonable at all times and within our rights to be somewhat aghast to have someone writing us to crash our social circle without first being invited in.  But I suspect The Lovely Wife may wish to have this nonsense go no further...and keep private correspondence private.

So I don't care if this is a safe haven or not for Panni.  It's not my responsibility to make it safe haven for her, just as it is not my responsibility to invite her to my parties, or to make her my friend.  She chose not to be friendly, I chose merely not to invite her to my party...which is understandable.  There are a lot of pleasant people with whom I'm friendly but not friends who I don't invite to my parties.  

If this has become an unsafe haven for her, I suggest she look to her own hysteria and teeth-gnashing and trumped-up sense of drama as the cause.  It's not anything I or The Lovely Wife are doing to her.

Here is what I received in the mail today, after waiting many, many moons!! Woohoo! Fans of Desperate Housewives will know!!

Eat your heart out DR Elmore3003! Ha, ha!

Here is what I received in the mail today, after waiting many, many moons!! Woohoo! Fans of Desperate Housewives will know!!

Eat your heart out DR Elmore3003! Ha, ha!

If Elmore's not jealous...I am!

WFO it is good to see you back, sorry if it wasn't the most pleasant of days to return.

JMK & MBarnum feel better soon.

DerBrucer-good muscle vibes!  

I was going to post another ask BK, but sadden to see what's going on here. I think that this should be left in private.

Actually, DR Michael Shayne is right. Mr. Pogue can accuse me of whatever pathetic "desperate" behaviour he wants.  All it bespeaks is a lack of class on his part. I don't need to respond.

Well I have been sick and in bed all day, and it looks like that's a good thing.

Really, isn't this site for dishing about other people whom we don't know?  (That's a joke, in case anyone was wondering).  I'll start:

JR, the Paramount guy is young, probably younger than I, if not springtime.

And re:  The Smothers Brothers.  I opened for them in Seattle a couple of years ago.  Their "act" is no act--the soundcheck was one of the most contentious, acrimonious things I've ever witnessed.  It kind of reminds me of....oh, nevermind.  

The best of health wishes to those suffering ailments of body and heart.

I'm listening to the original cast recording of A Fine & Private Place on my MP3 player watch!  Has anyone heard (or heard of) this musical?  It's delightful and touching!  The first full production was done in 1989 but they never recorded the show.  It wasn't until last year that it was recorded.  What was truly unique was that they got the entire 1989 original cast (all five of them) back together to record the score.