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« Reply #90 on: March 09, 2004, 10:46:06 AM »

OMG I haven't thought of The American Dance Machine in years!  And remember that show that Wayne Sleep used to do?  And Dance Fever with Denny Terrio?

Oh my yes, we used to be up to our armpits in culture...which is higher than usual!
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« Reply #91 on: March 09, 2004, 10:49:28 AM »

Good morning everyone
I'm gonna be late for choir if I don't get my sorry self out the door
Later when I have time at work, I'll think on the MGM question and post my answer.  

The BEST of vibes to Joe during this time.  My prayers are with you both
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« Reply #92 on: March 09, 2004, 10:54:25 AM »

Oh and thanks, DERBRUCER, that's the way I read the list as well....but if I end up with a fine or am bounced from the plane tomorrow morning, I will direct them to your post here at HHW!
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« Reply #93 on: March 09, 2004, 10:56:58 AM »

I am in Percy Faith heaven.  And do you know how nice it is to be able to post that at a site where I know at least a few of you understand?  (Those of you who are snickering quietly in your homes are forgiven).
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« Reply #94 on: March 09, 2004, 10:57:20 AM »

The Wayne Sleep show was "The Hot Shoe Show" and featured some of England's best show dancers of the 80s.  One of them --- Finola Hughes --- came to the states, did the "Saturday Night Fever" sequel with John Travolta and then became an Emmy winning Soap Actress.  I wish thet they would show this again (it was on A&E I think) or release it on DVD.
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« Reply #95 on: March 09, 2004, 11:00:16 AM »

Oh and thanks, DERBRUCER, that's the way I read the list as well....but if I end up with a fine or am bounced from the plane tomorrow morning, I will direct them to your post here at HHW!

Well, I just flew on four flight segments with disposable razors in my carry-on, so...  *And in Delta's First Class cabins on their international flights, they provide disposable razors in their overnight "clutches" - along with those great L'Occitane toiletries.  And since they now allow nail clippers again, I'm sure disposable razors are up to snuff.

WOW!  I've been up for over two hours, and have yet to have breakfast... I need to remedy that.. NOW!
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« Reply #96 on: March 09, 2004, 11:00:55 AM »

Ha ha, WEL!  Gotcha!

You may have seen Singing in the Rain several times, but have you heard it several times?  That wasn't the sound of Gene Kelly tap-dancing in the rain, because Gwen and Carol dubbed his taps for the soundtrack--in a bucket of water, no less.

I learned that from a TV show Gwen did in the 70's with the American Dance Machine.

At the risk of sounding argumentative, maybe she did and maybe she didn't.  She may have dubbed/overdubbed taps, but it does seem a bit unlikely that Gene Kelly would have left the dubbing of his taps to anyone.

Verdon may have been remembering incorrectly.  It would not be the first time a beloved celebrity misremembered the extent of his or her involvement in a project.  Mercedes McCambridge, for one, is said to have overstated her role in "The Exorcist."

I found this bit of trivia on the internet:

Some Rain trivia:

 The title song has been included in six other movies. Most notably it was first used in The Hollywood Revue of 1929, given jazzy swing by Judy Garland in Little Nellie Kelly (1940), and served as counterpoint to violence in Kubrick’s A Clockwork Orange (1971).

 The Broadway Rhythm ballet lasts 14 minutes and was as expensive (in rehearsal/shooting time and overall cost) as the climactic ballet in American in Paris. Running MGM $600,000, it’s also almost exactly the amount SITR went over budget.

 The film was the tenth highest-grossing picture of 1952, with film rentals of $3,300,000.

 Since no one can really tap in loafers or in water, for the famous puddle dance Kelly had to dub his own taps after the fact in the sound studio.

 Reportedly Debbie Reynolds’ midwestern accent and lack of professional experience were problematic. Playing the role of an understudy who dubs the voice of a silent star, ironically Reynolds was sometimes dubbed herself by Betty Noyes for singing and Jean Hagen for the lines Debbie was supposedly dubbing for Hagen’s character, Lina Lamont. Got that?

 The film received only two Oscar nominations (Best Supporting Actress for Hagen and Musical Scoring) and won neither.


It was at a site for "summertheaterfestival".  I googled "singin in the rain, taps, dubbing" and it was there.

Of course, I'm devilishly advocating against the above by suggesting they ALL may have done some dubbing for it.  They may have each dubbed taps and then had the decisions made during sound editing as to which were the best to use.
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« Reply #97 on: March 09, 2004, 11:26:02 AM »

Here is a great opportunity for a new BK Musical:
UCLA Acknowledges Sale of Body Parts...
...We could have a HHW contest for the best title.
Depending on the reason the body parts were taken, we could call the show Dinner From Eight!
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« Reply #98 on: March 09, 2004, 11:26:15 AM »

From a Yahoo site on Gwen Verdon:

Reportedly, she and Carol Haney worked as choreography assistants to Gene Kelly in 1952's Singin' in the Rain. (Verdon later claimed that she and Haney post-dubbed some of Kelly's taps in the title number, standing ankle-deep in a drum full of water to match the soggy onscreen action.)

And just to prove that everything old is new again, check out this response when this very topic was discussed at HHW.com back in 2002:

William-
It wasn't just the splashes -- it was the entire number ("Singing in the Rain"). Kelly was too busy with the ballet to bother with the post-dubbing, so Haney's feet filled in all of the tapping/splashing sounds you hear, much as Hermes Pan or Fred Astaire dubbed in most of Ginger Rogers' taps. Oh, the magic of Hollywood.

Posted by Robert Armin @ 03/05/2002 11:57 AM PST


I yield.


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« Reply #99 on: March 09, 2004, 11:28:24 AM »

But who SANG for Vera Ralston in "Jubilee Trail"?
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« Reply #100 on: March 09, 2004, 11:35:07 AM »

But who SANG for Vera Ralston in "Jubilee Trail"?

Lassie.
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« Reply #101 on: March 09, 2004, 11:39:20 AM »

LOL....
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« Reply #102 on: March 09, 2004, 11:44:29 AM »

Missing verse:

Then there is Jed and Jose S Piano,
Td, and TCB and Dan the Man, oh
I'm sure there's more, yes, including your host
I could go on but I really must post
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« Reply #103 on: March 09, 2004, 11:46:51 AM »

and MBARNUM toooooooooooooooooooo....cha cha cha.
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« Reply #104 on: March 09, 2004, 11:55:39 AM »

Der Brucer came into my room a few minutes ago.  I can't find any confirmation on-line, but he told me that he'd just heard on the news that actor Robert Pastorelli has died.
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« Reply #105 on: March 09, 2004, 12:00:08 PM »

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« Reply #106 on: March 09, 2004, 12:01:08 PM »

I always check the Reuters news site for breaking news.
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« Reply #107 on: March 09, 2004, 12:06:48 PM »

MBarnum, I totally forgot.  New verse coming.
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« Reply #108 on: March 09, 2004, 12:10:11 PM »

And MBarnum
Yes, MBarnum
And steveg as well
I've simply remembered my favorite posts
And now I am feeling swell
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« Reply #109 on: March 09, 2004, 12:12:13 PM »

I get my wish.  All three THAT'S ENTERTAINMENTs will be out on DVD later this year as well as a double SEVEN BRIDES - CinemaScope and regular with many differences.

For 2005 - BELLS ARE RINGING with 3 outtakes, BRIGADOON, IT'S ALWAYS FAIR WEATHER, a boxed Busby Berkley set and a 2 Disc BANDWAGON.

For 2006 - A 2 Disc  AN AMERICAN IN PARIS and a lot of Garbo films
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« Reply #110 on: March 09, 2004, 12:13:08 PM »

BK, Great song!  I wish you were here to help me finish this act for a cruise to the Mediterranean.  
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« Reply #111 on: March 09, 2004, 12:16:12 PM »

"They'll forgive anything if you have a big finish."  Rose Hovick
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« Reply #112 on: March 09, 2004, 12:18:52 PM »

For 2005 - BELLS ARE RINGING with 3 outtakes

FINALLY!!!  That's the one I've been waiting for.  Just wish they'd gotten around to it when they first planned to have a commentary with Adolph and Betty!
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« Reply #113 on: March 09, 2004, 12:19:27 PM »

I get my wish.  All three THAT'S ENTERTAINMENTs will be out on DVD later this year as well as a double SEVEN BRIDES - CinemaScope and regular with many differences.


DR WEL, I am glad that you wished hard, cause that is very good news to me as well!
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« Reply #114 on: March 09, 2004, 12:41:35 PM »

Missing verse:

Then there is Jed and Jose S Piano,
Td, and TCB and Dan the Man, oh
I'm sure there's more, yes, including your host
I could go on but I really must post


OK - So now the question is:  What color, pattern and fabric will our playclothes be made out of?  Who's got swatches?

-And DR MBarnum - Lucky you!  You get mentioned twice during the bridge!
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« Reply #115 on: March 09, 2004, 12:45:26 PM »

Why didn't you tell me...to bring my harmonica?
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« Reply #116 on: March 09, 2004, 01:00:19 PM »

I just hope we all live long enough to enjoy those DVD releases....and that Nothing newer/better will come along and replace the DVD format.

Sad news about Pastorelli who apparently let career speculators convince him his star was too high to remain on "Murphy Brown" and that he should cut loose and score big on his own.

I thought it was a disastrous decision at the time, and it seems to have been the case.  His career went nowhere.  

So sad...drug use...and now another child is an orphan.

Another bullet for the Bush "heterosexual family unit" agenda.
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« Reply #117 on: March 09, 2004, 01:02:04 PM »

I'm waiting for a man to come and install OS 10 and then AOL 9.0. After which I'll get a Cable Modem.
Then you can call me Thoroughly Modern Pannie
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« Reply #118 on: March 09, 2004, 01:04:56 PM »

So sad...drug use...and now another child is an orphan.
Another bullet for the Bush "heterosexual family unit" agenda.

Yes, I read that his girlfriend, the mother of their  child, died in the same house in '99. Tragic on so many levels.
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« Reply #119 on: March 09, 2004, 01:20:03 PM »

Off to rehearsal.

Everyone have a great evening.  Headed to Kansas City early in the morning but back on Friday!
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