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WALK THE WALK, TALK THE TALK
« on: June 05, 2004, 12:00:15 AM »

Well, you've read the notes and now you are ready to walk the walk and talk the talk, so ready boots - start walkin'.  Start talkin'.  Start postin'.
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2004, 12:16:44 AM »

Good TOD - Hard to decide though. I'm a big William Holden fan. SUNSET BOULEVARD has already been mentioned, as has BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI, NETWORK... I think LOVE IS A MANY SPLENDORED THING is SO romantic... I also like THE KEY and STALAG 17, of course. PICNIC (he's too old, but so gorgeous). And SABRINA.... Okay, I like almost all his films, so this is useless.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2004, 12:18:21 AM »

Favourite William Holden films: "The Bridges at Toko-Ri", "The World Of Suzi Wong", "The Counterfeit Traiter" and "Picnic". I don't think I have seen any of them since they first were shown but my memory tells me I enjoyed them.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2004, 12:19:56 AM »

Thanks Panni - I forgot "Stalag 17".
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2004, 12:40:57 AM »

Greetings all...Don't recall many of William Holden's movies but I'm sure to have seen many of them played as sunday midday matinees in New Zealand where I originally hail from.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2004, 12:41:05 AM »

Of course, "Sunset Boulevard" and "Stalag 17," although I haven't it seen all the way through.  I also really like "Forever Female."  I hate the title, though...and I've only seen it once, a few years ago, but I liked it when I watched it.  I also like "S.O.B." and "Born Yesterday."  There are a lot more Holden movies out there, but I haven't seen 'em.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2004, 12:45:25 AM »

They had movies in NZ when you were a child Beekay? That implies electricity. I must get a pin and write thet down.
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2004, 12:49:14 AM »

Sorry Beekay - don't think anyone else will understand. I'lll make it up you and read another Janet Frame book.
I wonder if any DRs have seen "An Angel At My Table".
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2004, 12:53:21 AM »

Love The Counterfeit Traitor, which is happily coming to DVD from Paramount very soon.  Also love him in SOB.
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2004, 01:12:58 AM »

I do believe that Network is the only William Holden film I've seen, that will have to be my choice by default.
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2004, 01:14:41 AM »

Why the hell am I still awake? It's 4:11 in the a.m. and I have to go to Connecticut tomorrow to see a high school production of MOBY DICK: THE MUSICAL! It should prove to be an interesting production...they're doing it in the local elementary school's cafetorium.  ::) I'm watching "Disney's BEAUTY AND THE BEAST" with "Human Again" added in and I'm realizing that the movie is so much better than the show, but I'd do the stage version in a heartbeat if someone would hire me. Still and all, I'm not a huge fan of the mixing of the computer animation and the hand-drawn/painted stuff.  

Oh, did I mention that today I met the Asst. Director for such Broadway shows as Disney's BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, Elton John & Tim Rice's AIDA and HAIRSPRAY? Well, I did. He's friends with my friend Michele, and apparently he's directing BEAUTY somewhere in North Carolina. Michele said she'd talk to him about seeing me for an audition. Isn't that exciting? Isn't that just too too?

And did I mention that I saw some portly woman's reproductive parts whilst walking down 9th Avenue? Well, much to my chagrin, I did...

William Holden: I only know from SUNSET BLVD.
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2004, 02:54:44 AM »

We're back from our sojurn to NYC (that's pronounced "Nyuc," as any Three Stooges fan will tell you).  The daylight is already creeping through the trees, the birds are trilling and chirping and if the damn woodpecker starts doing HIS thing I'm going to have a fit.

So I will have to catch up on everything later.  However, a quick step into yesterday's TOD: Tape player in car: Mason Williams' Of Time and Rivers Flowing, a wonderful compilation of American songs through the decades, all about rivers.  From "Oh Shenandoah" through "Mississippi Mud" to "Moon River," a delightful treat.

I've got work in ten hours, I must to sleep.  Bye.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2004, 04:28:19 AM »

Good Morning!

And I mean Morning!!!

The closing night of Children of Eden went off without a hitch.  We had a very good show, and a wonderful audience.  And it was a very pleasant surprise to see our director, David Bell, backstage before the show.  He hadn't been back since our opening night, and originally he wasn't going to be able to make it back for closing night.  Hugs a-plenty all around!

I was kind of subdued throughout most of the show.  I just don't like closing nights especially after a run this long (12 weeks).  There were a few moments when I got a little teary-eyed, but I didn't break down into sobs - which has happened before - and which makes it very hard to read the music in front of me!  ;)  The cast also gave it their all - like they did every night before this.  And it wasn't until the finale where I could sense some "emotion" starting to come through in their voices.

Afterwards, the theatre had a very nice party for us over at a nearby restaurant, Ella's.  Great woodfired pizzas.  They had three big tables set up for us, and we were just served family style.  -My favorite of the evening had to be the seafood pizza - lots of roasted garlic and lots of shrimp!

I took a bunch of pictures - finally - and made the rounds.  A bunch of the cast were going dancing at some club where they had to be in line by midnight, so the party didn't last too long - which was OK.  Other people have/had early flights this morning, and the early finish eased some "party-pooper" feeling people were having.

As for myself...

Well, I headed back to the apartment.  Got the rest of my stuff packed up.  Got it all loaded in my car.  Checked out of the complex.  And headed back to Richmond!!  *Of course, it ended up taking me a lot longer to get all my stuff together, so I didn't end up leaving Arlington until around 2:45am, and I got back to Richmond around 4:30am.  And, boy, was my car full!  I didn't think I had brought that much stuff down with me, but I guess all the other stuff that I brought down each time I went back and forth just accumulated.  I was at the point where I just putting bags where they would stay put.

So... I got the car unpacked, and put the kitchen stuff away.  As for my bedroom right now... I have some major reshuffling and excavation work to do later today.

In the meantime, I've decided to just stay up... In a few hours, I'm gonna go for breakfast at Sidewalk Cafe and spend some time with my favorite waitress, Edwina - I haven't done that since early March!  Then try to make some headway with getting the rest of my stuff put away.  Then over to the Greek Festival for various and sundried goodies.  -The local news just did a story on the festival... LOTS OF FOOD!

I'm also glad that the weather down here in Richmond is supposed to be clear all weekend.  When I left Arlington, the weather report for the DC area was calling for rain all weekend.  Timing is everything. ;)

OK - I'm rambling...

And as for William Holden movies... Ditto. ;)

Beets - Love 'em - especially pickled beets.  I've had fresh beets in salads, but they're usually very thinly sliced, julienned, etc.  And I do like roasted beets too - a nice mix of different varieties and colors with just some olive oil and coarse salt and freshly ground black pepper.

Hmmm.... Sidewalk Cafe doesn't open up for another two hours... I could put a DVD in... Hmmm....
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2004, 05:56:34 AM »

Okay - so I really have to pack. My favorite Wm Holden is probably Born Yesterday, with Network coming up huge on the inside...

Yesterday morning i got to see a rehearsal of FROGS at Lincoln Center. Yowie! That's gonna be great! Then i walked uptown to Verizon to get my cellfone charged, and while I waited I went to the furniture store next door, and sat in the massage chair for half an hour. They started making strange faces at me, so I finally left, and walked across the street to the Barnes and Noble to browse... well, I'll be go ta hell if i don't run smack into my pal Elmore! I had wanted to say goodbye before I left, so we had one or two more hugs and away I went to get my fone. Then the illustrious FAIRWAY MARKET - oh, do yerselves a favor, if yu don't already know this food emporium - go food shopping here at least once in your life! I bought fabulous cheeses yesterday. Couldn't help it.

Okay, so in two hours the shuttle comes to pick me up and take me to Newark airport. Better pack and shower and check outa here. More from LA tonight or tomorrow. Bye, New York. Ci vediamo, bella citta! (Jeez, i do so hate to leave...)
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2004, 06:06:05 AM »

Just about 30 minutes until breakfast....
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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2004, 06:08:03 AM »

As far as William Holden goes, I'm big on Sunset Blvd. and S. O. B., but I've never been big on him personally.  He's a good actor but, IMHO (that's "in my humble opinion" for you internet newbies out there), but not a great actor.  
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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2004, 06:24:06 AM »

Okay I am confused.  Why was DR MBarnum's brother at DR Jane's house?

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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2004, 06:25:19 AM »

Gotta run.  First, postcard show, then helping my sister paint her new house.  I've never painted before!
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« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2004, 06:30:26 AM »

As far as William Holden goes, I'm big on Sunset Blvd. and S. O. B., but I've never been big on him personally.  He's a good actor but, IMHO (that's "in my humble opinion" for you internet newbies out there), but not a great actor.  

IMHO, DR Robin, he's a great FILM actor. That's a category quite apart from "great actor."

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« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2004, 06:42:57 AM »

TOD:

For your convenience, the Willima Holden List:

1.   S.O.B. (1981) .... Tim Culley
2.   Earthling, The (1980) .... Patrick Foley
3.   When Time Ran Out... (1980) .... Shelby Gilmore
4.   Ashanti (1979) .... Jim Sandell
5.   Escape to Athena (1979) (uncredited) .... Prisoner smoking a cigar in prison camp
6.   Fedora (1978) .... Barry 'Dutch' Detweiler
7.   Damien: Omen II (1978) .... Richard Thorn
8.   Network (1976) .... Max Schumacher
9.   21 Hours at Munich (1976) (TV) .... Chief of Police Manfred Schreiber
10.   Towering Inferno, The (1974) .... James Duncan
11.   Cazadores, Los (1974) .... Wolkowski
12.   Breezy (1973) .... Frank Harmon
13.   Blue Knight, The (1973) (TV) .... Bumper Morgan
14.   Revengers, The (1972) .... John Benedict
15.   Wild Rovers (1971) .... Ross Bodine
16.   Arbre de Noël, L' (1969) .... Laurent Ségur
17.   Wild Bunch, The (1969) .... Pike Bishop
18.   Devil's Brigade, The (1968) .... Lt. Col. Robert T. Frederick
19.   Casino Royale (1967) .... Ransome
20.   Alvarez Kelly (1966) .... Alvarez Kelly
21.   7th Dawn, The (1964) .... Ferris
22.   Paris - When It Sizzles (1964) .... Richard Benson
23.   Lion, The (1962) .... Robert Hayward
24.   Counterfeit Traitor, The (1962) .... Eric Erickson, Code Name 'Red'/Narrator
25.   Satan Never Sleeps (1962) .... Father O'Banion
26.   World of Suzie Wong, The (1960) .... Robert Lomax
27.   Horse Soldiers, The (1959) .... Maj. Henry 'Hank' Kendall (regimental surgeon)
28.   Key, The (1958) .... David Ross
29.   Bridge on the River Kwai, The (1957) .... Cmdr./Maj. Shears
30.   Toward the Unknown (1956) .... Maj. Lincoln Bond
31.   Proud and Profane, The (1956) .... Lieutenant Colonel Colin Black
32.   Picnic (1955) .... Hal Carter
33.   Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing (1955) .... Mark Elliott
34.   Bridges at Toko-Ri, The (1955) .... Lt. Harry Brubaker
35.   Country Girl, The (1954) .... Bernie Dodd
36.   Miyamoto Musashi (1954/I) (uncredited) .... Narrator in original US version
37.   Sabrina (1954) .... David Larrabee
38.   Executive Suite (1954) .... McDonald Walling
39.   Escape from Fort Bravo (1954) .... Capt. Roper
40.   Forever Female (1953) .... Stanley Krown
41.   Moon Is Blue, The (1953) .... Donald Gresham (US version)
42.   Stalag 17 (1953) .... Sgt. J.J. Sefton
43.   Turning Point, The (1952) .... Jerry McKibbon
44.   Submarine Command (1952) .... Cmdr. White
45.   Boots Malone (1952) .... Boots Malone
46.   Force of Arms (1951) .... Sgt. Joe 'Pete' Peterson
47.   Born Yesterday (1950) .... Paul Verrall
48.   Union Station (1950) .... Detective Lt. William Calhoun
49.   Sunset Blvd. (1950) .... Joe Gillis
50.   Father Is a Bachelor (1950) .... Johnny Rutledge
51.   Dear Wife (1949) .... Bill Seacroft
52.   Miss Grant Takes Richmond (1949) .... Dick Richmond
53.   Streets of Laredo (1949) .... Jim Dawkins
54.   Dark Past, The (1948) .... Al Walker
55.   Apartment for Peggy (1948) .... Jason
56.   Rachel and the Stranger (1948) .... David Harvey
57.   Man from Colorado, The (1948) .... Capt. Del Stewart
58.   Dear Ruth (1947) .... Lt. William Seacroft
59.   Blaze of Noon (1947) .... Colin McDonald
60.   Young and Willing (1943) .... Norman Reese
61.   Meet the Stewarts (1942) .... Michael Stewart
62.   Remarkable Andrew, The (1942) .... Andrew Long
63.   Fleet's In, The (1942) .... Casey Kirby
64.   Texas (1941) .... Dan Thomas
65.   I Wanted Wings (1941) .... Al Ludlow
66.   Arizona (1940) .... Peter Muncie
67.   Those Were the Days (1940) .... P. J. 'Petey' Simmons
68.   Our Town (1940) .... George Gibbs
69.   Invisible Stripes (1939) .... Tim Taylor
70.   Golden Boy (1939) .... Joe Bonaparte
71.   Million Dollar Legs (1939) (uncredited) .... Graduate
72.   Prison Farm (1938) .... Prisoner

Since I always liked really dirty, filthy, condemed, banned-in-Boston movies, I'll go for "The Moon is Blue".

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« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2004, 07:08:10 AM »

Are any DRs as surprised as I am by the posters for some new movie which feature the Black Wayan brothers as WHITE women?  The women part is fine, but let's face it: if this poster showed Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt as BLACK there would be quite an uproar.  Why the double standard?
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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2004, 07:48:12 AM »

WEL - Just don't think about it, you will be accused of being humorless.  It doesn't make sense, but that is the way it is.  :-\

JOSE glad you are home. Yes closing nights are very emotional.  I don't think I have ever been in a show that closed on a Friday night. Unusual.  ;)

Hmmmmmm TOD.  Well most of my favorites have been mentioned. Mr William Holden (who I first knew from his classic appearance being covered in desserts on I LOVE LUCY) is an interesting actor that I usually like.  I think he looked so different as he aged though, and in movies like THE TOWERING INFERNO seemed to be so sad.   SUNSET BOULEVARD and PICNIC to be sure, though as DRPANNI wrote he is TOO old for the latter, but then everyone is except Verna Felton.  

BUT if I have to choose FAVORITES....the William Holden movies I like to watch and do watch again and again are:

LOVE IS A MANY SPLENDORED THING -

Han: There is an old Chinese saying, 'Do not awaken a  sleeping tiger.'
Mark: Especially not in a small boat.

Han:  He is dead, and yet his letters will come, one by one....

Cue Music and Tears.

THE COUNTRY GIRL (mentioned on I LOVE LUCY) and EXECUTIVE SUITE as a furniture company executive trying to save an old company....and married to June Allyson!



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« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2004, 07:56:58 AM »

Life is never what you expect:

I went to "Children of Eden" (the production famed for it's talented and sexy keyboard player) expecting to be moderately entertained by a nice local production. I had enjoyed the CD and hoped seeing a live production would add to my appreciation - and I was thrilled by the Ford's production and will surely enjoy the CD much more in the future.

I went to see "Assassins" last night, expecting to be captured by the magic I had head on the CD. My whispered words to Woody, as the curtain, fell were "This book really stinks!" The sets were ho-hum, the sound so-so, the performances mixed, and the direction god-awful! It was hard to assign guilt for the various train wrecks, car crashes, and other sundried man-made disasters on the stage - poorly conceived writing, unworthy direction or second rate acting.


This show had no idea where it was trying to go - it was "Sugar Babies" meets "Les Miz" (with a detour to Jekyll and Hyde)!

I had heard comments that some thought Neil Patrick Harris was too weak to do the Balladeer - surprise - he was the one, together with Booth (Michael Cerveris), that stood out on a stage of otherwise mediocrities. Denis O'Hare's Guiteau looked like he had just minced off the set of La Cage and Mario Cantone's Byck played like out-takes from SNL.

My take on the new controversial elements - put it back, the way it was (oh, a Li'l Abner reference). The added bits by the Proprietor add nothing, the Balladeer morphing into Oswald is given no meaning (except to save casting costs), and "Something Just Broke" is simply unneeded, misplaced, and distracting - the closing view of Oswald shooting out the Depository window blends naturally (both visually and thematically) into the opening view of "Everybody's Got the Right" - the new song (as lovely as it may be) just gets in the way.

The show opens with a sympathetic portrayal of Booth as a misguided patriot who invokes the memory of the Brutus (The Noblest Roman of Them All), both misguided Giants of men - but then we get the remaining assassins -  a motley crew of self-absorbed and/or mentally deranged miss-fits - an ensemble of sickly midgets -  for whom no empathy can be found . (I'll exempt Czolgosz from this list). Booth rounds up the other assassins to spur on Oswald hoping his action will give more meaning to their lives - Booth should have rounded up the other assassins and berated them for sullying the name of Noble Assassin.

Before the Tony nominations were announced, I gnu that I would have seen three contenders: Assassins, Wonderful Town, and I Am My Own Wife - and assumed I would rank them in merit in that order. Well, as I said to begin with "Life is never what you expect". My post viewing ranking:

I Am My Own Wife - deserving of best play/actor/director.

Wonderful Town - deserving of best Revival of a Musical

Assassins - at best, an Honorable mention for Cerveris.

In the past year I have had three very memorable theatrical experiences - Jewish Thighs on Broadway, I Am My Own Wife, and Children of Eden - and without the prompting of PennyO, Jenny, and Jose - Hainesies all, I would have missed out on them all.

Thank you folks.

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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2004, 08:07:55 AM »

DR Robin, Bill Warren and I were friends for a number of years, and he's a wonderful writer and an excellent critic. He has one of those encyclopedic memories for film facts, and he's just an amazing person. We've drifted out of touch over the last decade, but I was always impressed by his knowledge of all film genres. Curiously, I've never read KEEP WATCHING THE SKIES though one of these days I will get to it. I owe it to Bill.

William Holden, one of the most glorious films actors of his day, and one of the handsomest men in film history. Favorite film would have to be SUNSET BLVD. but I also think he's memorable in GOLDEN BOY, SABRINA, THE COUNTRY GIRL, PICNIC, NETWORK, and so many more.

On a personal note, when the studios would allow him to have it, his hirsute chest was one of the marvels of the age. Sadly, for PICNIC, it was deemed that he shave his chest robbing us of all that glorious fur. At least in his Oscar winning STALAG 17, we see the REAL William Holden.
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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2004, 08:58:15 AM »

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ALBRECHT DURER (b. 5/21/1471, Nürnberg, d. 4/6/1528)
Perhaps the Greatest "German" artist of the Renaissance era. Also the most important of the Renaissance Mathematicians - Father of Descriptive Geometry
The third son of Albrecht Ajtos and Barbara Holfer. One of their eighteen children. The Ajtos family came from Hungary. The name Ajtos means " like a door" in Hungarian. When Albrecht Ajtos senior and his brothers came to Germany they chose the name Türer which sounds like the German "Tür" meaning door. The name changed to Dürer but Albrecht Dürer senior always signed himself Türer rather than Dürer.

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PAUL SIMON (b. October 13, 1941 in Newark, New Jersey)
Parents were Hungarian Jews, Louis and Belle Simon. His father was a bass player bandleader who appeared on CBS's Arthur Godfrey, Jackie Gleason and Gary Moore shows, sometimes under the name Lee Sims. He later went back to school to earn his master's degree in teaching, and taught at New York Community College. His mother was a high school English teacher before her children were born.

AND A BONUS FOR WOLFMAN FANS!
ILONA MASSEY -  nee Hajmássy
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Re:WALK THE WALK, TALK THE TALK
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2004, 09:25:35 AM »

Just about to hop in the shower and then dash away to my friend's apartment so we can begin our sojourn to Westport, CT. I have no idea what time we'll be getting home (probably 1-ish), so you'll not be hearing much out of me today. Hope it's a good one for you all and Sandra--keep your hands off of those cookies! ;)
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« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2004, 09:39:34 AM »

I'm a bit surprised by the "I only know one William Holden movie" comments.  Not that you need to know so many William Holden movies other than that he has appeared in several film classics that you should absolutely put on your must-see lists.  To only know Sunset Blvd. is not to have seen David Lean's Bridge on the River Kwai.  Or Josh Logan's Picnic.  Or Billy Wilder's Stalag 17.  Hie yourselves to the video store and get some of these.
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« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2004, 09:40:04 AM »

And might I just say where in tarnation IS everyone?
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« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2004, 09:50:04 AM »

...And dare I admit I like THE WILD BUNCH? Doesn't fit with my image at all. But yes, I am Panni S and I like THE WILD BUNCH.
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